We, my company bought 10 XCMG loaders, was apprehensive at first, but other than some small issues here and there, I actually really like them. Support has been great. Customers aren’t so big on them bc they aren’t “CAT” but they are slowly coming around. Thankfully they have Cummings engine.
dam i'm also been thinking about a xcmg 948. for the price compared to a cat 938 almost seems to good to be true. however i would be using it to install utilities (moving aggregates and materials with the wheel loader). only thing holding me back is that the dealer closest to me is almost three hours away and cat is down the road. i did see that there are using a cummins motor which should be easy to get replacement parts, but the only thing I don't like is the transmission there are using is from ZF which would have to be shipped from Germany if it goes bad. but i do know its been used by John Deere in some of there backhoe models so even if its a Chinese machine i thing it will hold up. I hope everything goes good for you this season and ill keep an eye on how the loaders perform
Cummins motors can't be beat imo. The zf powershift was used in almost every older generation loader from every brand. It's a solid transmission, just older technology. I would say the only downside to it is that you have to use the brake, where as the hydraulic in the Cats basically stop themselves. Other than that the machines are solid so far. We'll see how good they are when its time to move snow mountains. Stay tuned!
@@Habs31 You can blame both parties starting with Clinton who was bought and paid for by the CCP thus allowing China into the WTO in 1999 and the Greed of the corrupt UAW for selling out the working class.
Yes, he pulls forward slightly to remove some like spacers/locks, then backs back up, does some air stuff then unhooks and pulls away. Its quite the process.
Really diggin the intro. If you've had it on other videos & I missed it, apologies!! That Peterbilt delivering them was DOPE!!! Squatted & chrome galore. Did I ever mention how much I LOVE the tread patterns on those snow tires. The loaders look great. Curious to see how they'll perform, I'm thinking just fine.... They're ALL the same parts anyways LOL!!! Hoping all is well Bud, Dirty Jersey out!!
I used to run DMC3700 snow groomers in the 80's and 90's in the Canadian arctic for the American Dewline cold war radar sites and they had a D handle with a 10 way blade. I am surprised that loaders don't come with an electric plug in near the hydraulic lines which you configure like a skidsteer with a snowblower to control the chute and blower. Good video I am interested to see how well the new loaders hold up and perform. Did you trade cats and get a sweet deal for buying multiple units. Make lots of money and have fun with the fluffy snow from Winnipeg Canada.
Does anyone know where I can learn to quote snow removal jobs mainly looking to quote commercial sites. Per push, zero tolerance, and seasonal contracts
I have never bought a plow from WL. I buy them from my friend Jordan who owns storm equipment. I have buying my plows from him long long before WL decided to sell them. I have no reason to change as Jordan is a very good friend and I get top notch service from storm equipment all the time!!
Good choice on trying a different brand of loader you get most of the same features and capabilities as you do with a cat as you do with a Xcmg or Sany America loaders at a fraction of the cost. Can't wait to see the new loaders in action. Please keep making the videos someday I will have those loaders.
Called signing your life away in hopes of getting enough snow. Kills the credit rating for awhile, just have to do all the loans for everything the same day
Ill never run chinese crap. They like going ohh its so much cheaper, as if their forgetting it is borderline child labor making those machines so cheap lol
HA, you already do, its all from there, parts, steel all of it. And what cracks me up is I bought how many new CATs the past few years? You want to know where all those 950's I had last year were made...............China., Except it cost double the price for the paint color and the hierarchy of corporate bullshit and special corporate lobbying corruption. Screw that.
@@SnowBoss all of xcmg manfuacturing is in china. Cat has 7 facilities in china, representing 6% of their facilities lol. Over 51% of their manufacturing facilities are within the usa and your wondering why its more expensive than a exclusively built in china brand?
@@Habs31 They might assemble it all in China, but I can tell you all the major components are not made in china. In fact most of the parts are made in the US, Germany and Italy to name a few.
I really think you need to address why you went with that company. The price difference and the pros and cons of the new loader. I've never heard of him doesn't mean they're not a good loader. I bought a dosan when nobody ever heard of it around here and it turned out to be pretty Darren good.
i don t understand , last year u did not have much snow, and u had a shit load of loaders, cats. now u said u sold them all and buy loaders that nobody has ever learned of. i hope ur summer business makes u a ton of money cause ur snow removal business does not seem to be up and up.
You think this cat is running his operation on a per push and pray system?? I'm sure his seasonal contracts cover his overhead and personally id never talk down or assume his snow biz isnt good cause with these accounts and equipment it looks darn more than decent
@@sethalexander2252 Exactly spot on! These loaders are built in China so yes they are cheaper and the true test will be in reliability, along with dealer support on parts and services. Nothing like having a machine break down at 3AM during a major snowstorm and you are unable to get parts or service for days, that will be the true test because doesn’t matter what brand machine you purchase these days they all will at some point need repair parts and service which CAT is still hard to beat with their dealer network.
We, my company bought 10 XCMG loaders, was apprehensive at first, but other than some small issues here and there, I actually really like them. Support has been great. Customers aren’t so big on them bc they aren’t “CAT” but they are slowly coming around. Thankfully they have Cummings engine.
We are loving ours. Cummings is so much better then cats imo. These are good machines.
dam i'm also been thinking about a xcmg 948. for the price compared to a cat 938 almost seems to good to be true. however i would be using it to install utilities (moving aggregates and materials with the wheel loader). only thing holding me back is that the dealer closest to me is almost three hours away and cat is down the road. i did see that there are using a cummins motor which should be easy to get replacement parts, but the only thing I don't like is the transmission there are using is from ZF which would have to be shipped from Germany if it goes bad. but i do know its been used by John Deere in some of there backhoe models so even if its a Chinese machine i thing it will hold up. I hope everything goes good for you this season and ill keep an eye on how the loaders perform
Cummins motors can't be beat imo. The zf powershift was used in almost every older generation loader from every brand. It's a solid transmission, just older technology. I would say the only downside to it is that you have to use the brake, where as the hydraulic in the Cats basically stop themselves. Other than that the machines are solid so far. We'll see how good they are when its time to move snow mountains. Stay tuned!
Also the cost difference is staggering comparing apples to apples. The xcmg is over $140K less then a 938M.
@@SnowBosswell when you build in china and pay the workers pennies on the dollar, yeah you can make cheaper stuff
@@Habs31 You can blame both parties starting with Clinton who was bought and paid for by the CCP thus allowing China into the WTO in 1999 and the Greed of the corrupt UAW for selling out the working class.
Did I see it correctly he drove out from under the trailer and air/electric lines still hooked up ?
Yes, he pulls forward slightly to remove some like spacers/locks, then backs back up, does some air stuff then unhooks and pulls away. Its quite the process.
Really diggin the intro. If you've had it on other videos & I missed it, apologies!! That Peterbilt delivering them was DOPE!!! Squatted & chrome galore. Did I ever mention how much I LOVE the tread patterns on those snow tires. The loaders look great. Curious to see how they'll perform, I'm thinking just fine.... They're ALL the same parts anyways LOL!!! Hoping all is well Bud, Dirty Jersey out!!
They'll do great! Bring on the SNOW!!
That is one nice looking fleet more power to you teaching your son the smart way
Thank you, trying
Hope if it goes down you have a good dealer network to get it repaired. Good luck
My dealer is close, and the largest east coast parts warehouse for them is 1 hour away.
I used to run DMC3700 snow groomers in the 80's and 90's in the Canadian arctic for the American Dewline cold war radar sites and they had a D handle with a 10 way blade. I am surprised that loaders don't come with an electric plug in near the hydraulic lines which you configure like a skidsteer with a snowblower to control the chute and blower. Good video I am interested to see how well the new loaders hold up and perform. Did you trade cats and get a sweet deal for buying multiple units. Make lots of money and have fun with the fluffy snow from Winnipeg Canada.
DM3700 was Logan snowcats bought by John Delorean from Utah lots of fun to run. Back to the future.
Thanks. It needs to snow more lol.
That's interesting, didn't know that
Does anyone know where I can learn to quote snow removal jobs mainly looking to quote commercial sites. Per push, zero tolerance, and seasonal contracts
Why didn't you buy the Metalpless off of Western Lehigh ? They are closer to you
I have never bought a plow from WL. I buy them from my friend Jordan who owns storm equipment. I have buying my plows from him long long before WL decided to sell them. I have no reason to change as Jordan is a very good friend and I get top notch service from storm equipment all the time!!
I'm really hoping we actually get snow this year. According to Pennsylvania calendar it should be elneno year
Me too lol. Its coming.
How do you land these large contracts?
Years of networking, networking, networking. Honestly most of this big stuff is relationships and who you know, plain and simple.
What up, Wow I hope you are making lots of money to pay for that equipment.
Me too LOL
@@SnowBoss I finally got my first loader/pless combo this year and so far we are having a non winter winter haha, pray for me and my bank account!!
Good choice on trying a different brand of loader you get most of the same features and capabilities as you do with a cat as you do with a Xcmg or Sany America loaders at a fraction of the cost. Can't wait to see the new loaders in action. Please keep making the videos someday I will have those loaders.
Those operators are gonna have a ball this winter!!
@@nocoolname32 Well I mean it is only December 6th, got 4 months to go lol.
Wish they sold Those metalpless in Norway
They might, you should contact them. They have plows all over Europe.
damn you must be making huge money if you afford brand new equipment like that all at once.
We do just fine
Called signing your life away in hopes of getting enough snow. Kills the credit rating for awhile, just have to do all the loans for everything the same day
Oh Gees, should make for some good You Tube videos.
Yes it will
I’ve run Cat Deer Komatsu Volvo front end loaders. I’ll pick Cat every time. Never run one of these.
Ill never run chinese crap. They like going ohh its so much cheaper, as if their forgetting it is borderline child labor making those machines so cheap lol
HA, you already do, its all from there, parts, steel all of it. And what cracks me up is I bought how many new CATs the past few years? You want to know where all those 950's I had last year were made...............China., Except it cost double the price for the paint color and the hierarchy of corporate bullshit and special corporate lobbying corruption. Screw that.
@@SnowBoss all of xcmg manfuacturing is in china. Cat has 7 facilities in china, representing 6% of their facilities lol. Over 51% of their manufacturing facilities are within the usa and your wondering why its more expensive than a exclusively built in china brand?
@@Habs31 They might assemble it all in China, but I can tell you all the major components are not made in china. In fact most of the parts are made in the US, Germany and Italy to name a few.
I really think you need to address why you went with that company. The price difference and the pros and cons of the new loader. I've never heard of him doesn't mean they're not a good loader. I bought a dosan when nobody ever heard of it around here and it turned out to be pretty Darren good.
i don t understand , last year u did not have much snow, and u had a shit load of loaders, cats. now u said u sold them all and buy loaders that nobody has ever learned of. i hope ur summer business makes u a ton of money cause ur snow removal business does not seem to be up and up.
You think this cat is running his operation on a per push and pray system?? I'm sure his seasonal contracts cover his overhead and personally id never talk down or assume his snow biz isnt good cause with these accounts and equipment it looks darn more than decent
Nothing ventured nothing gained. Used CAT equipment would sell for more then these units cost new
@@sethalexander2252 Exactly spot on! These loaders are built in China so yes they are cheaper and the true test will be in reliability, along with dealer support on parts and services. Nothing like having a machine break down at 3AM during a major snowstorm and you are unable to get parts or service for days, that will be the true test because doesn’t matter what brand machine you purchase these days they all will at some point need repair parts and service which CAT is still hard to beat with their dealer network.
@@t_cromwell hes not wrong. Guy said it himself, it was the price point that made him buy cheaper loaders lol
@@tristenklein5940 well XCMG builds machines for cat so they obviously know a thing or two. I’ll be curious as well on parts/service