The subtlety of the sabotage suggests that the priesthood wanted her obliterated but didn't want her family (or anyone else who would have understood what they did) to notice it.
Stunning! What a fascinating documentary, loved every minute of it. A huge pity that every time an expert gave their opinion, the loud music drowned them out.
Agreed! Hasn't been quite so overwhelming in other episodes of this series, but its presence here was difficult. The narration was rather unusually inane too - surely e.g. they would've started by reading the inscriptions on the casket first? Still an interesting episode, just not as well produced as some of the others.
The fact that they went to the library, found a tiny, thick, old, handmade 198 year old book and found an item inside of it that was one of the breakthroughs in the case is aesthetically pleasing. Gives me Poirot vibes.
Are these the final broadcast episodes, i remember watching some history channel ones years ago where they werent the final broadcast episode so sounds were eq'd and such. Could be just bad mixing in this case at some points
Dr Fletchers enthusiasm is infectious in most all her shows. For those out there who bash her and others with their theories and conclusions, archeology as with many other sciences, are open to interpretation. There are many accepted history theories that are based on assumptions, suppositions, speculation and guess work. I find Dr Fletchers documentaries interesting to say the least. Her videos on Egyptian common folk are top notch, and at times emotionally moving. Her work on ancient civilizations are just as relevant as others, possibly even more so.
Jokes on the ones who tried to destroy her memory, they've been forgotten by time while HER memory lives on, immortal and representative of her people.
agreed......i honestly hope we find out more about her some day......like the history of high profile ancient Egyptian women who died such gruesome deaths........i mean if i was in this woman's place, i would obviously wonder what would have caused the reason for why someone would want me dead be it family or anyone else and if i had any family who cared about me, they would have tried and caught the conspirators and punished like in the case of Ramses III......where his wife Tiye and those who helped in his assassination were tried and put to death.......i mean this is really a horrible way to die........
Dr. Fletcher is my favorite as she's just as fascinating as the subjects she's a professional on. Her expertise is unlike others with the knowledge she provides us in these documetaries.
When you think about it, that’s actually pretty freaking cool that they were able to find all this info when they couldn’t even open up the coffin and have the actual mummy for testing. I’m amazed everytime I learn of a new “thing” we can do scientifically speaking. It makes me think of how far we’ve come just in the last hundred years. I feel like invention, science, and just a more basic understanding of the world around us was very slow to progress in the past. But with the modern invention of “technology” like electricity, radio/tv, computers etc, we have come SOOO FAR just in the last 100 years! It’s like we’re at this master speed of progression right now and I feel it will only move us faster into the future. So exciting and scary all at the same time!
I was thinking the same thing!! lol. It seems she needs to throw away that old clumpy mascara and go for a new one. Unfortunately mine seem to look like this often.
As someone with an over bite myself, Its refreshing to know that I would have been considered high class and royal in that time. I am glad that the plans of who ever murdered ner and then sabataged her afterlife, were in a sense turned over as she "lives" again through this documentary and their research. Even with out an actual name.
Back in ancient Egypt the royalty would marry within their own family (fathers marry their daughters, brothers marry their sisters etc..) which could be the reason for the over bite. That is not the case now a days though.
@@peachjubilee That's actually not always true, many of the inscriptions were symbolic/mythological. The Pharoah had to be fit enough to run nonstop for two miles every 3-8 years, so they couldn't be too messed up genetically. They still needed to be fit to rule.
I love these documentaries and love learning about ancient civilizations, but also hate the idea that we have to disturb someone's final resting place to do so.
These documentaries are their afterlife. The adorned coffins and mummification worked, because it made us notice them individually. Through us everytime we remember them, talk about them, in our imaginations they live. All because they mummified their selves.
I love this Dr. Mummy, she is so passionate about her work. When you learn about Egyptian history it makes it much more believable that they did indeed create the pyramids. I may not be convinced on how they cut and moved the stones, but they had the motivation, means, manpower, masonry experience and legacy of kings all going for them to perform the task. That solves most of the mystery right there, doesn't it?
When I went to Manchester museum some 40 years ago . I saw the display of three mummies one dressed with a board above head and canopic jars above. The one next to it was bandaged half way up. The third looked two small for coffin . They had the paints and brushes. They had one half open thin paper painted covered the sealed side. I asked. The museum why they were in the wrong boxes . I was told because the inside of the coffin was in better shape. I also noticed the lid did not quite fit on another . For display I was told they swopped tops. I was horrified to see bodies switched and bandages off to the middle. Then these people in death on display. I was 19 then . It upset me. 61 now. That’s why the man was in the lady coffin.
@Cat Magic Actually, the Black Pharaoh claims are from historically uninformed Black Nationalists. They are on the far-left. Also, it is the left that believes in nonsense such as Gender as a social construct, or spectrum; and conspiracy theories such as White privilege, and systemic racism.
@@kennethtucker284 No that is a lie. This is about the middle eastern Eqyptians, not sub-Sahara Africa/n tribes. That's a different story. Again, Egypt is in the MIDDLE EAST, not in"Black Africa" aka below the Sahara desert. If you look, you may find a video about them' Or why don't YOU do a project and find the histories and produce it? There are many Black African historians who can help, just make sure they are true historians with accurate sources
I’ve seen the sarcophagus many times - was originally on display in the Hancock museum Newcastle upon Tyne. I used to often go into the museum when I studied at the Uni. It’s quite small and dainty in real life but still quite impressive.
@@tamib906 it’s a casket, got open one of the queens or kings of England. It’s the same thing. Disgraceful IMO. But also they would/could damage who’s remains are inside. Again it’s a casket.
Impressive effort by all involved. It's a shame there is no other research or data to reference so we can find out more about her contemporaries and piece together more of the puzzle.
Excellent and interesting. Pleeeease keep the music to a lower level so one can hear what is being said. Why do those who put music to these documentaries ruin it.
Despite the frustrations of the repetition of the narration in this video, I did get rather excited to see the 3D printing of the CT scan data. From the first time I was aware of the existence of those printers, THIS is what I got excited to see them used for. The use of new and groundbreaking technology is not something I hear of until well after it has become commonplace. The agony of not being in academia any longer!
That's likely impossible to find out. She may have been a spare princess who wasn't significant enough to be documented much at the time, and whoever murdered her probably made sure there was little written about her after.
Cool that they don't want to be invasive and such so not to ruin anything but cmon. You would think that these days u could open it up without damaging stuff as much as before..
Most damage would probably come from the sudden exposure to vast amounts of oxygen, reacting with whatever is contained within. Look at what happened to the terracotta warriors f.e.
I really enjoy programs like this that bring ancient people back to life while telling their unique stories. It’s fascinating to see the process that the team goes through in order to bring the people back to life.
I really like this series, very good and I think Dr Joann is great! Fascinating to watch the techniques they use to find out the identity. Ancient Egypt is such a wonderful subject to learn about.
For all its possible flaws, I am grateful for another Joann Fletcher documentary! Joann Fletcher, Bettany Hughes and Lucy Worsley are the trinity of historical presenter; If you ad Michael Woods, that makes a, what quarto? Anyway, I will enjoy this.
For the next episodes please decrease the volume of the voices so we may enjoy the music much better. Also I recommend more Heavy Metal and Punk music.
Perhaps this is Ankhesanamun- Tutankamun's half sister/wife, who vanished from the record after Ay seized the throne following Tut's death. she tried to find a royal marriage with a son of the Hittite king but failed when the Hittite prince was ambushed and slaughtered on the way into Egypt. It is reasonable to suppose that she was herself murdered shortly afterward. Although she was eighteenth dynasty the dating of this mummy could be adrift. the 18 dynasty ended in 1292 BC and the 20th dynasty began in 1188 just over one hundred years so allowing for a margin of error, this does seem possible and the relative ignominy and deliberate errors on her sarcophagus would fit in with this possibility.
i'm loving the rash of mummy videos, but i think this title and the title of the last video have been messed up, because i do not think this woman was peruvian
I think they have now (2021) as it says: "The Mystery Of The Sealed Coffin | Mummy Forensics | Timeline" and the blurb underneath says: "Dr Joann Fletcher is on a mission, she and the Mummy Investigation Team at York University have been called in to look at a mysterious case - a female mummy inside a beautifully painted Egyptian coffin. There’s only one catch, they’re not allowed to open the coffin. In one of the teams’ most unusual cases they must solve the mystery of this woman’s demise without ever having access to her mummy. Using everything in their power the investigation combines Xray and CT scans with facial reconstruction and facial modelling to discover who this woman was and how she died. But none of them is prepared for the grizzly tale they eventually unravel. " I've only just come across this video so not sure what it said before!
There's a lot of 3D scanning cleanup and 3D printing involved, which is my specialty. I should give these guys a call, never done mummy digital restoration ;)
I've worked in a lab for some 8 year. Stephen is handling open containers add liquid. Without gloves or face mask. He as the open sample right below his face in close proximity to his breathing. It does not take much for contamination to take affect. I would not be surprised, if the results came back to be his mother
they reenact most of this for filming. They do not film actual testing or anything in the actual testing space because of risk of contamination. They have them reenact without proper risk reducing measures like masks so the audience can see their faces for the story and filming.
The problem with facial reconstruction is they don't have two separate artist doing it. So a lot of it is up to the person imagination. It would be nice to see two separate people doing it. and show the results. The mummy case doesnt not look at all like the person within.
Maybe the sarcophagus isn't supposed to look like the body. For one thing Ancient Egyptians preserved mummies to the best of their abilities because of their belief that their bodies will serve as conduits to the afterlife, but according to the documentary whoever mummified her tried to ensure that she wouldn't transition to the afterlife peacefully hence the inaccurate reproduction of her face.
She was only a royal servant. You think they would care that much about her?? Only the Kings and Queens could have their faces to be carefully carved on their sarcofagus. Especially given the fact that this mummy woman was murdered/killed. And whoever plotted her assassination doesn't even want her to join the afterlife. You think the killer would care to draw her face properly on the coffin???
couple weeks ago, but all the news agencies were busy complaining about Trump or about the people who oppose Trump so they didn't have time to talk about anything else.
Tens of thousands of years ago. The Atlanteans and the Lizard people brought them over in flying saucers. Then the Annunaki made them build Puma Punku with lasers and ultrasound. But Mainstream Archaeology won’t admit it, it’s all a big conspiracy.
Wow, they really did all that to make sure she couldn't enter the after life?! For her I will believe that Osiris knew what they did and let her enter anyway!!
these documents are so well produced. Thank you - perks me up a lot during this loooooong covid quarantine. and they are so interesting. love this series :) 🌱🐪 what gets me though, is that there are so many ways a person coulld meet their end which would show no evidence - brain swelling, intestinal blockage, appendix bursting, bleeding ulcers, snake bite . . . how would that show up at all (maybe except the venom).
The only thing we know for sure is that she was stabbed to death, the rest is pure conjecture. And..when was this originally made? Facial reconstruction and 3D imaging have come along way since these methods were used!
SO many think they're professionals because they went to 3-4 years of university, when that really only makes you an Apprentice in your field. These people deserve the title of "professionals"
Rushed mummifications were not unusual in Egypt. They only had 70 days to completely finish the mummification and tomb. Sometimes people died some distance from those able to do this. King Tut is a good example. The removal of the throat is what gives this away as foul play. But his lady will be fine as her name has been spoken again.
I'm curious as to the motive of why she was killed. Obviously there was a lot of hatred on the part of whoever orchestrated it all, but how wide a net was it? There's so many assumptions one could make. Like, maybe the person who killed her was the one who knew he'd be embalming her body, which means it was all just a single person. If it was a high-ranking priest or member of royalty then they could have hired an assassin and put pressure on the embalmers to rush things. They'd have to have a lot of pull with the embalmers to get them to make the mutilations that they did, specifically the throat area. Or maybe this woman was widely disliked/hated. Depending on the degree, there doesn't even have to be someone of high rank involved at all. If she was seriously hated, it could have been anyone who'd have wanted her dead, even common folk, and the embalmers could have just acted on their own. Like there are just so many paths this could take. Heck, we don't even know something so simple as was this killing motivated by politics/religion or was it personal. Did she slight someone, spurn someone, have an unwelcome admirer? So many questions! And we'll never know.
I used to be a Grave digger, one day a guy had a stone put on for his wife, and the stone masons managed to spell Angels wrong.! Spelt it Angles, which was rather ironic, since his wife used to be a Maths Teacher, lol So even in modern times, they make mistakes with wording
She must’ve been a real bee-otch in life. They wanted to prevent her from making it to the afterlife. And they disfigured her face in case she did make it. Savage
I reckon she annoyed the priests. Perhaps worked her way into Pharoah's bed, without their approval and became too influential. Which is probably being a bee-atch in their eyes. They weren't keen on uppity women in Egypt.
Yeah, the theme continues, men getting butthurt by powerful women throughout the ages. She probably wasn't a beeotch, just refused to be someone's beeotch.
I have found these mummy videos quite interesting. They would have been incredibly more informative if the speakers, the researchers, could have been heard over the trite musical score which had no relevance to the script.
I'm pretty sure, in the afterlife, the murderers were forced to say her name, then had their own throats ripped out and then were sent down into the level and pit reserved for them... At least that's how Dante would have recounted it in _Inferno_ ...
the fact that they were able to give her back her true name, she must be very grateful in the afterlife. i imagine her looking down at the team while they figure her case out, out of curiousity, and sthrouing up her hands and going ' FINALLY!"
@timeline please please sort out the sound. Your have an amazing channel but the sound ruins it. Read the comments. If it’s a copyright issue find another way to alter the video then with the sound. Please start listening to your followers as this is a problem on all your videos and it won’t be long before someone else will snap up your followers with the same documents but with better sound.
So I could handle the soundtrack volume up to its boost at about 38:30 which just so happened to be the moment they started discussing some results I was really eager to hear
The subtlety of the sabotage suggests that the priesthood wanted her obliterated but didn't want her family (or anyone else who would have understood what they did) to notice it.
The “music “overwhelms what the scientists are saying. The repetive sounds are more like noise jamming a signal.
OMG. I thought I was the only one who thought so. The music is incredibly distasteful.
Indeed
@mikeleight What's your problem?
Music was not needed and it is intrusive!
(also posted on another comment): I am so glad somebody else has said that as well - the music was terribly annoying!
Stunning! What a fascinating documentary, loved every minute of it. A huge pity that every time an expert gave their opinion, the loud music drowned them out.
Too much loud music.
That is common on timeline videos, and I hate it.
My thoughts precisely! A genius work somewhat spoiled for me!
Agreed! Hasn't been quite so overwhelming in other episodes of this series, but its presence here was difficult. The narration was rather unusually inane too - surely e.g. they would've started by reading the inscriptions on the casket first? Still an interesting episode, just not as well produced as some of the others.
Yes, hate the stupid music, completely unnecessary!
The fact that they went to the library, found a tiny, thick, old, handmade 198 year old book and found an item inside of it that was one of the breakthroughs in the case is aesthetically pleasing. Gives me Poirot vibes.
"Aesthetically pleasing?" 🤦🏻♀️
Yes! I know, right? Its thrilling to a historian and a mystery fan like myself. Pretty cool! Enough to give you goosebumps
I would describe it as very interesting
I worry about the bad name academia has in regards to greed politics religion money and pride
I believe it was scripted but it was exciting nevertheless.
blasted music is always too loud on documentaries I want to hear what people are saying not the ego of the music department
True
Are these the final broadcast episodes, i remember watching some history channel ones years ago where they werent the final broadcast episode so sounds were eq'd and such. Could be just bad mixing in this case at some points
I absolutely agree. Well said. 👍🏻
Well said. My thought exactly.
exactly. what they are discussing and talking about is more important that loud music.
Dr Fletchers enthusiasm is infectious in most all her shows. For those out there who bash her and others with their theories and conclusions, archeology as with many other sciences, are open to interpretation.
There are many accepted history theories that are based on assumptions, suppositions, speculation and guess work.
I find Dr Fletchers documentaries interesting to say the least. Her videos on Egyptian common folk are top notch, and at times emotionally moving. Her work on ancient civilizations are just as relevant as others, possibly even more so.
Jokes on the ones who tried to destroy her memory, they've been forgotten by time while HER memory lives on, immortal and representative of her people.
Jokes on me trying to watch TH-cam on desktop😮 there is so much stuff going on a single flash video I need need chop sticks.
agreed......i honestly hope we find out more about her some day......like the history of high profile ancient Egyptian women who died such gruesome deaths........i mean if i was in this woman's place, i would obviously wonder what would have caused the reason for why someone would want me dead be it family or anyone else and if i had any family who cared about me, they would have tried and caught the conspirators and punished like in the case of Ramses III......where his wife Tiye and those who helped in his assassination were tried and put to death.......i mean this is really a horrible way to die........
@@rebeccafionacornel6558 .
Why not just open The sealed coffin
I have return.
Whoever plotted against her failed to erase her from history. All that work, and yet the truth came out.
Dr. Fletcher is my favorite as she's just as fascinating as the subjects she's a professional on. Her expertise is unlike others with the knowledge she provides us in these documetaries.
Ugh, you can't even hear the last 10 minutes because the music is so loud. Who screwed that up??
When you think about it, that’s actually pretty freaking cool that they were able to find all this info when they couldn’t even open up the coffin and have the actual mummy for testing. I’m amazed everytime I learn of a new “thing” we can do scientifically speaking. It makes me think of how far we’ve come just in the last hundred years. I feel like invention, science, and just a more basic understanding of the world around us was very slow to progress in the past. But with the modern invention of “technology” like electricity, radio/tv, computers etc, we have come SOOO FAR just in the last 100 years! It’s like we’re at this master speed of progression right now and I feel it will only move us faster into the future. So exciting and scary all at the same time!
I agree 💯
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I wish they wouldn’t put those goofy eyelashes on the reconstructions.
Agreed...They look like the eyelashes originally painted on Collinson rocking horses in UK ...👀
I was thinking the same thing!! lol. It seems she needs to throw away that old clumpy mascara and go for a new one. Unfortunately mine seem to look like this often.
So bizarre. You can model an entire face and you can’t model eyelashes?
Agree about the lashes. Why do they still call the city Thebes; when it was Waset?
"This is what she would have looked like" - and then show her - blue? Lol.
As someone with an over bite myself, Its refreshing to know that I would have been considered high class and royal in that time. I am glad that the plans of who ever murdered ner and then sabataged her afterlife, were in a sense turned over as she "lives" again through this documentary and their research. Even with out an actual name.
Back in ancient Egypt the royalty would marry within their own family (fathers marry their daughters, brothers marry their sisters etc..) which could be the reason for the over bite. That is not the case now a days though.
@@peachjubilee That's actually not always true, many of the inscriptions were symbolic/mythological. The Pharoah had to be fit enough to run nonstop for two miles every 3-8 years, so they couldn't be too messed up genetically. They still needed to be fit to rule.
The reason they had ever bites is because they were so fantastically in bred that their family trees were circular
Pity the background music is too loud, over the voices
I really enjoy your videos. As a rural woman I thank you for bringing the world to me. I appreciate it.
Me too!
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Awesome and sad, and the music overpowered the speech sadly. I hope she finally rests in peace. great upload thank you
I love these documentaries and love learning about ancient civilizations, but also hate the idea that we have to disturb someone's final resting place to do so.
These documentaries are their afterlife. The adorned coffins and mummification worked, because it made us notice them individually. Through us everytime we remember them, talk about them, in our imaginations they live. All because they mummified their selves.
I love this Dr. Mummy, she is so passionate about her work. When you learn about Egyptian history it makes it much more believable that they did indeed create the pyramids. I may not be convinced on how they cut and moved the stones, but they had the motivation, means, manpower, masonry experience and legacy of kings all going for them to perform the task. That solves most of the mystery right there, doesn't it?
Started getting a headache from the music.
music is okay, just turn it down, I wanna hear the people -.-
A very interesting documentary but the music was to loud and annoying.
I agree
Same
Yep
@@elenagilie9208 I can recoust what happened it's so sad what happened to her
Yes
How I wish there is a time travel machine
When I went to Manchester museum some 40 years ago .
I saw the display of three mummies one dressed with a board above head and canopic jars above. The one next to it was bandaged half way up. The third looked two small for coffin . They had the paints and brushes. They had one half open thin paper painted covered the sealed side. I asked. The museum why they were in the wrong boxes .
I was told because the inside of the coffin was in better shape. I also noticed the lid did not quite fit on another .
For display I was told they swopped tops.
I was horrified to see bodies switched and bandages off to the middle. Then these people in death on display. I was 19 then . It upset me. 61 now. That’s why the man was in the lady coffin.
They did that to hide the truth , their intention were to change the History of the true Kings and Queens of Egypt who were Africans
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Nobody is interested in hiding such things. What is your source?
I think she can tell if a coffin has been opened before or not, just because of how angry she sounds that this is a waste of her time.
@Cat Magic
Actually, the Black Pharaoh claims are from historically uninformed Black Nationalists. They are on the far-left.
Also, it is the left that believes in nonsense such as Gender as a social construct, or spectrum; and conspiracy theories such as White privilege, and systemic racism.
@@kennethtucker284 No that is a lie. This is about the middle eastern Eqyptians, not sub-Sahara Africa/n tribes. That's a different story. Again, Egypt is in the MIDDLE EAST, not in"Black Africa" aka below the Sahara desert.
If you look, you may find a video about them' Or why don't YOU do a project and find the histories and produce it? There are many Black African historians who can help, just make sure they are true historians with accurate sources
I’ve seen the sarcophagus many times - was originally on display in the Hancock museum Newcastle upon Tyne. I used to often go into the museum when I studied at the Uni.
It’s quite small and dainty in real life but still quite impressive.
I love the scientists she has added around herself to uncover these mummies and learn aspects of this particular burial.
That bloody music!
IKR
Yeah I hear ya. Painful, especial towards the end.
Could've been an octave or two lower...
It was Colonel Mustard, in the library, with the knife
Clue reference
This woman is really trying about this documentary ..stuff
lol
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LOL
We want to know more about this mummy but you can't take samples or look at it.
I'd say "OK, well good luck chum" and be driving home again.
How stupid not to just open it up.
@@tamib906 it could cause damage, bc it has been sealed for so long
I want to know whether she had children, or if she was a woman at all.
@@susanfabian1521 they showed she was a woman based on the skull, etc.
@@tamib906 it’s a casket, got open one of the queens or kings of England. It’s the same thing. Disgraceful IMO. But also they would/could damage who’s remains are inside. Again it’s a casket.
I had to laugh at to laugh at the surgeons terminology, Blood rushing out at a vast rate of Knots, Yup he's Navy.
"Expert in craniofacial identification?" Why does her reconstruction models eyelashes look like they were done with MS Paint? 😂
13:42 LMAO THE EYELASHES. This lady needs better software xDDDDD
I always love when they do digital facial reconstructions. "Wow! She's so lifelike!"
Right? And why was she blue?! Also the hair was pretty wrong imo. Not enough volume.
For a mummy??
XD ! For real. Also..why is an overbite linked to social status?
Cause things like overbite runs in some families if either your dad or mom have a overbite theres a chance you would have it too
Thank you for this video, it was fasenating. But the music was too loud and in some parts override the voices of the experts and the announcer.
brilliant people making this documentary , I love all the episodes that Dr Fletcher makes ,
Impressive effort by all involved. It's a shame there is no other research or data to reference so we can find out more about her contemporaries and piece together more of the puzzle.
Excellent and interesting. Pleeeease keep the music to a lower level so one can hear what is being said. Why do those who put music to these documentaries ruin it.
Despite the frustrations of the repetition of the narration in this video, I did get rather excited to see the 3D printing of the CT scan data. From the first time I was aware of the existence of those printers, THIS is what I got excited to see them used for. The use of new and groundbreaking technology is not something I hear of until well after it has become commonplace. The agony of not being in academia any longer!
Really good documentary but once again the music is to loud *sighs*
Wow. Someone really hated this poor woman.
Joann Fletcher is amazing! Wonderful woman and very inspirational x
26:33 "And the team now has an extraordinary image of what the lady once looked like."
Yeesh...
I shouldn't have laughed, but I'm cackling.
Lol! I guess that's the best they've got. This was in 2008.
Lol I’m glad I’m not the only one that found the image VERY LIFELIKE.
Omg 😲
I thought it was hideous too and wtf was going on with those eyelashes, why not just leave it out
Is there any follow up to this? They made great progress but I really want to know where does she fall in history, who did this to her and why!?
That's likely impossible to find out. She may have been a spare princess who wasn't significant enough to be documented much at the time, and whoever murdered her probably made sure there was little written about her after.
Her murderer was probably psycho or past husband or just wanted to rule over egypt
Great documentary: I always enjoy the work she carrys out and she speaks in understandable plain English.
Cool that they don't want to be invasive and such so not to ruin anything but cmon. You would think that these days u could open it up without damaging stuff as much as before..
"as much" is not as good as not at all.
Most damage would probably come from the sudden exposure to vast amounts of oxygen, reacting with whatever is contained within. Look at what happened to the terracotta warriors f.e.
@@blackbird_entropy not to mention environment pollutants from everyday lab equipment that naturally fumes off that wasn't around centuries ago.
I really enjoy programs like this that bring ancient people back to life while telling their unique stories. It’s fascinating to see the process that the team goes through in order to bring the people back to life.
What a tragic story.. Amazing how much information they were able to retrieve, without actually seeing the subject
I really like this series, very good and I think Dr Joann is great! Fascinating to watch the techniques they use to find out the identity. Ancient Egypt is such a wonderful subject to learn about.
For all its possible flaws, I am grateful for another Joann Fletcher documentary! Joann Fletcher, Bettany Hughes and Lucy Worsley are the trinity of historical presenter; If you ad Michael Woods, that makes a, what quarto? Anyway, I will enjoy this.
Quartet
Look for some John Romer documentaries also.
Mary Beard. Anytime she touches Rome, it's golden.
You have to include Mary Beard for all things Roman
Leaving Mary Beard out was a gross oversight on my part. Mea culpa!
I love watching her she loves the Egyptian people history you can see it clearly. And it totally shows in her documentaries.
How cool would it be to go to Egypt with Joann. I adore her 💕
I love Joanne she’s so smart with this stuff she has a completely unique prospective it’s refreshing
For the next episodes please decrease the volume of the voices so we may enjoy the music much better. Also I recommend more Heavy Metal and Punk music.
Maybe some Nile? 😂
No punk or heavy metal please.
By al means. Actually Timeline, just mute the voices altogether and make the 40 min music videos you really want to do already.
great music, too bad there is so much talking in the background, kind of distracting.
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Perhaps this is Ankhesanamun- Tutankamun's half sister/wife, who vanished from the record after Ay seized the throne following Tut's death. she tried to find a royal marriage with a son of the Hittite king but failed when the Hittite prince was ambushed and slaughtered on the way into Egypt. It is reasonable to suppose that she was herself murdered shortly afterward. Although she was eighteenth dynasty the dating of this mummy could be adrift. the 18 dynasty ended in 1292 BC and the 20th dynasty began in 1188 just over one hundred years so allowing for a margin of error, this does seem possible and the relative ignominy and deliberate errors on her sarcophagus would fit in with this possibility.
She's 21st dynasty tuts wife was 18th dynasty
Her name is bekthornekt servent of Horus the strong
@@brettanymichellelawson-top5197 her name was Bakht EN HOR. The NAKHT was a mistake.
Her real name meant Servant of Horus.
I think there's great possibly you are right.
But not Queen Tiye?
"They killed her twice."
Brilliant work!! Thank you! I very much enjoyed this episode!!❤
i'm loving the rash of mummy videos, but i think this title and the title of the last video have been messed up, because i do not think this woman was peruvian
...mixed up.
She doesn't look Peruvian ...
The Peruvian episode was called Egyptian....
If only the one who uploaded the video would of took notice of the real title of the documentary the title would never of been titled wrong
@@TheOfficialDJSuperRaveman It may have something to do with copy-rights.....
Thats awful. Thanks for giving her back her name.
Thanks for the video
while this was a good episode this had nothing to do with Peru and the channel moderator should correct the title.
One year later, they still didn't. Lol
It really confused me.
I think they have now (2021) as it says: "The Mystery Of The Sealed Coffin | Mummy Forensics | Timeline" and the blurb underneath says:
"Dr Joann Fletcher is on a mission, she and the Mummy Investigation Team at York University have been called in to look at a mysterious case - a female mummy inside a beautifully painted Egyptian coffin. There’s only one catch, they’re not allowed to open the coffin. In one of the teams’ most unusual cases they must solve the mystery of this woman’s demise without ever having access to her mummy. Using everything in their power the investigation combines Xray and CT scans with facial reconstruction and facial modelling to discover who this woman was and how she died. But none of them is prepared for the grizzly tale they eventually unravel. "
I've only just come across this video so not sure what it said before!
@@rhyfelwrDuw Kinda took them long enough though. I know some folks get rushed or exhausted so being human mistakes happen.
Definitely wish I could be apart of this type of case and work. I really enjoyed watching Stephanie give this mummy a face.
"The Lady"? How long did it take to think up that cleaver nickname?
*clever
There's no need for clever nicknames. They just needed a temporary ID for her.
As long as it took you to "cleave" through youtube to find this documentary, I presume.
@@renateoosterloo529 Someone corrected that word misuse over a year ago. You're late to the party.
I would like your comment but it’s at 69 likes and I just can’t change that
There's a lot of 3D scanning cleanup and 3D printing involved, which is my specialty. I should give these guys a call, never done mummy digital restoration ;)
My grandson went to SVA for 3D. I'd love to see his rendering of this.
I've worked in a lab for some 8 year. Stephen is handling open containers add liquid. Without gloves or face mask. He as the open sample right below his face in close proximity to his breathing. It does not take much for contamination to take affect. I would not be surprised, if the results came back to be his mother
they reenact most of this for filming. They do not film actual testing or anything in the actual testing space because of risk of contamination. They have them reenact without proper risk reducing measures like masks so the audience can see their faces for the story and filming.
The problem with facial reconstruction is they don't have two separate
artist doing it. So a lot of it is up to the person imagination. It
would be nice to see two separate people doing it. and show the results.
The mummy case doesnt not look at all like the person within.
Maybe the sarcophagus isn't supposed to look like the body. For one thing Ancient Egyptians preserved mummies to the best of their abilities because of their belief that their bodies will serve as conduits to the afterlife, but according to the documentary whoever mummified her tried to ensure that she wouldn't transition to the afterlife peacefully hence the inaccurate reproduction of her face.
She was only a royal servant. You think they would care that much about her?? Only the Kings and Queens could have their faces to be carefully carved on their sarcofagus. Especially given the fact that this mummy woman was murdered/killed. And whoever plotted her assassination doesn't even want her to join the afterlife.
You think the killer would care to draw her face properly on the coffin???
This forgotten Mummy's killer might have also been her embalmer too. What an intriguing documentary this really was.
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When did Egypt annex Peru?
Hahaha. During a warp in the Timeline.
couple weeks ago, but all the news agencies were busy complaining about Trump or about the people who oppose Trump so they didn't have time to talk about anything else.
Or vice-versa. The Peruvian mummy was called Egyptian.....
Tens of thousands of years ago. The Atlanteans and the Lizard people brought them over in flying saucers. Then the Annunaki made them build Puma Punku with lasers and ultrasound. But Mainstream Archaeology won’t admit it, it’s all a big conspiracy.
@@wfcoaker1398 I wont accept what you are saying either. I hope tongue was firmly in cheek
Wow, they really did all that to make sure she couldn't enter the after life?! For her I will believe that Osiris knew what they did and let her enter anyway!!
these documents are so well produced. Thank you - perks me up a lot during this loooooong covid quarantine. and they are so interesting. love this series :) 🌱🐪
what gets me though, is that there are so many ways a person coulld meet their end which would show no evidence - brain swelling, intestinal blockage, appendix bursting, bleeding ulcers, snake bite . . . how would that show up at all (maybe except the venom).
Truly amazing, had me gripped the whole way through.
Wait, hang on. Are you saying you CAN'T access the mummy? Could you repeat that a dozen more times, please?
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But it has been opened before! Also other documentaries are not afraid of opening them directly after finding the coffins!
The only thing we know for sure is that she was stabbed to death, the rest is pure conjecture. And..when was this originally made? Facial reconstruction and 3D imaging have come along way since these methods were used!
2007
That's pretty interesting, though: beautiful old coffin and a murder victim inside. Wonder how often that happened....
SO many think they're professionals because they went to 3-4 years of university, when that really only makes you an Apprentice in your field. These people deserve the title of "professionals"
Great documrntary. It is incredible That you can go back over 3000 years to solve a ancient case..
I get it, but it's a shame we won't be able to see this mummy. Back a hundred years ago, I bet they would've popped that badboy of a lid right off.
Rushed mummifications were not unusual in Egypt. They only had 70 days to completely finish the mummification and tomb. Sometimes people died some distance from those able to do this. King Tut is a good example. The removal of the throat is what gives this away as foul play. But his lady will be fine as her name has been spoken again.
You didn’t quite drown out the commentary with the ‘music’, but you came pretty close!
I'm curious as to the motive of why she was killed. Obviously there was a lot of hatred on the part of whoever orchestrated it all, but how wide a net was it? There's so many assumptions one could make. Like, maybe the person who killed her was the one who knew he'd be embalming her body, which means it was all just a single person. If it was a high-ranking priest or member of royalty then they could have hired an assassin and put pressure on the embalmers to rush things. They'd have to have a lot of pull with the embalmers to get them to make the mutilations that they did, specifically the throat area. Or maybe this woman was widely disliked/hated. Depending on the degree, there doesn't even have to be someone of high rank involved at all. If she was seriously hated, it could have been anyone who'd have wanted her dead, even common folk, and the embalmers could have just acted on their own. Like there are just so many paths this could take. Heck, we don't even know something so simple as was this killing motivated by politics/religion or was it personal. Did she slight someone, spurn someone, have an unwelcome admirer?
So many questions! And we'll never know.
Music is so loud I can't hear the audio!
Yes, and it's also a horrible choice. Can't think of a less adequate kind of music for this.
Too much music, amazing how these people were able to put this story together. Fantastic piece.
FIX THE MUSIC!
I used to be a Grave digger, one day a guy had a stone put on for his wife, and the stone masons managed to spell Angels wrong.! Spelt it Angles, which was rather ironic, since his wife used to be a Maths Teacher, lol
So even in modern times, they make mistakes with wording
Maybe they did it on purpose because she was a math teacher
@@alexandrahenderson4368 That'd be my suspicion, too. If we can find out if she liked puns, that'd prob settle the question.
So many epic shots of the scientists staring at the coffin and data while dramatic music plays too loudly in the background.
Utterly fascinating 🙏💜
Music was too loud when the scientist spoke the ingredients of her burial wrap.
Poor woman. I hope somehow, her family or friends were able to assist her in passing into the afterlife.
She must’ve been a real bee-otch in life. They wanted to prevent her from making it to the afterlife. And they disfigured her face in case she did make it. Savage
I reckon she annoyed the priests. Perhaps worked her way into Pharoah's bed, without their approval and became too influential. Which is probably being a bee-atch in their eyes. They weren't keen on uppity women in Egypt.
Yeah, the theme continues, men getting butthurt by powerful women throughout the ages. She probably wasn't a beeotch, just refused to be someone's beeotch.
"Incase she did make it" now thats funny😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That could certainly be the case...She must have been really hated...perhaps a very evil person
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I couldn't have enough of documentaries of this kind. Btw, the BGM from 38:26 is far too loud for the conversation.
I have found these mummy videos quite interesting. They would have been incredibly more informative if the speakers, the researchers, could have been heard over the trite musical score which had no relevance to the script.
Vindictive act. Fine video. Thank you
I'm pretty sure, in the afterlife, the murderers were forced to say her name, then had their own throats ripped out and then were sent down into the level and pit reserved for them...
At least that's how Dante would have recounted it in _Inferno_ ...
Dante's Inferno takes inspiration from Christianity, the Ancient Egyptians had their own polytheistic religion.
the fact that they were able to give her back her true name, she must be very grateful in the afterlife.
i imagine her looking down at the team while they figure her case out, out of curiousity, and sthrouing up her hands and going ' FINALLY!"
Fascinating! Loud background music sucks big time, though.
Fascinating. It really is amazing what can be learned through modern technology.
@timeline please please sort out the sound. Your have an amazing channel but the sound ruins it. Read the comments. If it’s a copyright issue find another way to alter the video then with the sound. Please start listening to your followers as this is a problem on all your videos and it won’t be long before someone else will snap up your followers with the same documents but with better sound.
Same world...... excellent work as always doctor Fletcher and your team!!!
Why, oh WHY is the music SO FRELLING LOUD??
Incredible very interesting thank you
There is no resembling of the face carved on the coffin and the blue lady depicted in the reconstructed animation.
Gemi11 sort of agree, reconstructed animation doesn't resemble the outer picture. Perhaps it's Queen Tiye
Sure, but the coffin picture isn't meant to be a true likeness.
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So I could handle the soundtrack volume up to its boost at about 38:30 which just so happened to be the moment they started discussing some results I was really eager to hear
What they did to that poor woman in her afterlife is completely deplorable. Curses upon the embalmers and her murderers.
i like to think now that the lady was properly named she appeared in the afterlife like “surprise mfs took me long but now im here”
Except they yanked her throat. But, since she's high class, she could probably just write it all down! In the end, she gets the last laugh.
Joke's on her tho, Ammit ate the murderers bc their hearts were too heavy, so they never made it to afterlife.