.22-250 Rem - 50gr Nosler BT with Varget & H380
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- Today I am shooting .22-250 Remington with the 50gr Nosler Ballistic Tip Varmint. The test powders are Hodgdon Varget and H380.
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Thanks for showing the paper. Way better understanding of the actual group
I really appreciate your videos I have learned so much. I don't want anyone to take this the wrong way but it is more satisfying to actually see the bullet holes in your target than the computer's interpretation of where the bullet punched a hole in your target. That's just my opinion. Keep on keeping on!!!
you know I appreciate the shot marker system but I do miss the target cam
I liked the few videos that had both
Me too
Agreed
Me too, so satisfying to watch those bug hole groups happen
That old 788 and H380 , brings me back to my 1st loading set , I'm 60 now , started reloading when I was 15,
I let a guy talk me out of that 788, I still regret it till this day...
Really enjoying this series, thank you. 22-250 is one of my bucket list cartridges, really cool.
"Powdered my bags." Huh. Must be really humid there. Try loose shorts too. More air around them is better. :}
@commandox8u…and don’t rule cornstarch 😝😝😝
Thank you for the 22-250 content! Just built one up myself and really like seeing your process
Great as always. Glad to see you solved some of the mystery. There’s nothing more satisfying that being stumped on a rifle/load and finally figuring it out.
Good shooting there, Mr.Bench. Thanks for giving us the short tour of the bag set up. Great video, looking forward to more!🇺🇸👊👍
Johnny reloading bench loveing the Sunday uploads keep coming. 22-250 is start be a cool series.
Sweet bro. I got some JRB to watch through my little hurricane party.
At least until the lights go out
My Tikka T3 loves 38.0 H380 with a 52 gr Berger Varmint bullet. Great video!
I’ve discovered Johnny’s true identity! He’s Dangerous Daren from Chanel 39 XM radio Hair Nation weekday mornings. Same voice! Johnny/Daren plays Bonjovi and Poison in the mornings and reloads in the afternoon… He’s livin the good life!
Yea your right. Lol hadn't ever noticed that before
I like the small cinematic additions now, the close up on the powder measure was well done.
The 55gr Nosler Varmageddon is a freaking tack driver in both of my 22-250's so is the Hornady 40gr V-Max... I've never really experimented with any other bullets because those do so damn good and the bullets I want to experiment with won't stabilize... Glad to see you uploading on the regular again love the channel brother!!!
Same, the 55 is incredibly accurate out of my old and new Ruger’s
How is the flat base on the varmageddon? I've been going with mostly boat tails
@@nk-dw2hm it's a good shooting bullet I've got a load worked up with Vihtavuori n135 that's consistently shooting a quarter inch... and it's devastating on coyotes.
@@DanielBoone337 I've been mostly going with boat tails for ease of seating but I might have to give those a go
Great Video!!! I’ve been looking forward to Sunday nights video. God bless.
H-380 is my go to powder in my swift . Those t series weaver scopes are my favorite own a few of them. Good shooting .
Love that H-380, thanks. Good and interesting video, really enjoyed it. 👍
I Just finished up my load developement using the same Nosler 50g BTV With my Savage 12 BSS in Rem 22-250. Final result of 3693 fps, ES 20, SD 8.5. Componets used Laupa Brass, CCI 200 primer, 34.0grs of TAC powder. Result down range was 0.33" @ 100yds. Great Video.
Thank you for sharing
Johnny. I'm really enjoying this video series. I had a 22-250 788 once, that was many years ago. one thing I think about, the 788 is a run of the mill, however, as I stated,, Mill, production milling, they made thousands of those rifles and nothing custom was done to those actions. they are as they came from Reminton. -Dave
Spot on. He makes it look easy but it really takes a lot of time to just prep and load, nevermind the photography and the shooting.
I've had 3 different 22-250 barrels and all were Remington take offs and one I had rechambered in 22Dasher. Recently I put on a smithed/fitted 22-250 take off on one of my actions and is looking good but it is too early to tell.
Thank you for this video.
Still have 6-800 of the old 50gr Nosler Expanders I used in a Ruger 1V 22-250, they were awesome on gophers.
When a piece of brass gives you a flier, separate it from the rest and check the volume. Those other shots are close in volume.
Magnum primers made a world of difference with my 22-250 (ruger american predator). 36grns h380 cci LR mag primers norma brass with Hornady 55gr vmax gave me a .29" 3 shot group.
IS THAT IN CONSISTENT BASES, OR HERE ABD THERE?
Awesome video 👍
I'm new to reloading (recently bought a Savage 12FV in 6.5 Creedmoor) and have really been enjoying your channel. Thanks!
Haven't even watched it yet, but thumbs up for .22-250. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Nice gun for the money. Mine really likes Hornady 140gr bullets used with H4350 or IMR4451.
@@fredthompson1279 thanks! I picked the wrong time to get into reloading, everything is crazy expensive! I've already snagged some 140 grain Hornady ELDM bullets, and I've got Lapua brass on the way. I haven't been able to track down primers or powder, but I'm looking at H4350 or Reloader 16.
@@russtuff take slow u find some stuff it's around. I'm new reloading also got lot stuff gather up here in their
@@russtuff Yeah ,bullets, powder and primers have become spendy and hard to find. Especially for the 6.5. At least here in Canada. I lucked out recently and was able to stock up on several of my preferred powders. The ELD X's are impossible to find here, but the 140 BTHP are usually available. Good luck in your reloading venture. With the right combo that gun should shoot great.
Great to see a 788. I have the same gun, but with original barrel cut down to 21.5". I get similar accuracy as your getting with 50gr Vmax and 34gr Varget. Of course not with the velocities your seeing. That H380 load was smoking. I have yet to try H380 but maybe I should get a lbs. At least it is readily available, Varget not so much. Interesting that the POI was identical for both loads with such different velocities.
If any of you 22-250 fans are interested check out wtw's video the other day of some reloads I sent him, pretty good group at 100 yards with blitzkings and imr4064 and that's who tee who
I just noticed your rifle is a Rem 788. My first rifle (1977) was a barreled action LH 788 in 6mm Rem.. I sent it to Bishop for a stock and it has been very accurate. At the time there was not much in LH. I think Rem. had a LH 700 in 30-06 (which I have also). My BIL has a stock 788 in 22-250 and has taken wood chucks out to 400 yards with factory ammo.
34secs in. I'm going to predict that you are going to get awesome results this time around. The change in scope and choice in Varget I think will vastly improve your precision. Could be wrong by the end, but I'll leave this up anyway.
Its hard to shoot that high of round count small groups. great shooting!
I like H380 for my 22-250, a Shilen DGA action, Jewel 2 oz. trigger. The best group with 50gr Nosler ballistic tip at 300 yards was a little bigger than 1/4"!
Nice shooting and nice rifle! I reload my 22-250 ammo and I use H380 and I get great groups with Hornady 55 grain bullets also. I can't use any bullets heavier than 55 grains, the rifle with a stainless steel barrel has a 1 in 12 twist rate, a little faster than your Douglas' 1 in 14.
I need some 6mm ARC content! I just bought a Bartlien barrel in 6mmARC
Always wanted to get 22250 awsome video as always
Got a 1941 mod 70 win in 22 varminter cal with a J.E.Gibby heavy barrel 1-14 twist.. 36.5gr of varget under 40gr Nos Bt.
Johnny, every one of your shots were a couple of clicks to the left of the Y axis! Perfect groups!
One thing that I have noticed with H380 in my Rifle. It seems to like a warm dirty barrel. 1-12 twist...
Hello, I have the very same rifle only with the factory barrel and I was having flyers like yours....I free floated the barrel and bed the action and they went away....Also I put a timney trigger in it...My favorite rifle for yotes!
I used to use H380 with my 308. Outstanding combination!
Yup, it definitely is.
Hey Johnny, I run 50 grain Nosler BT in my ruger M77 26" 22-250 with 38 grains of H380 and it shoots bugholes. 52 grain bthp I run 36.5 grains of varget. It also shoots bugholes...You'll like it....h380 will be your go to powder.
You can see on the rifle at 19:00 when you shoot the last (10th) shot, something else is happening.
Quite nice to video your shooting like this, you can notice things afterwards that can help alot in diagnosing accuracy issues. Wich that load does not have.
Johnny, you're on the right track I shoot both Varget & H380 with 52-55 gr Nosler-BT
it's capable of bug holes......... keep trying
Congrats on reaching 100,000 Subs Johnny. Please, please make an Elite Tactical Warfighter 2 video!! I need more training lol.
Anything 22-250 is awesome reason I subscribed. Would like to see the 55 grain ballistic silvertip reloaded. Cause that's what I want to reload when I get started seems as tho I would save money in the long run. 35-50 dollars for a box of ammo is a lil bit much
Who else catches themselves holding their breath each time Johnny breaks a shot?
I just bought a Leupold 45x45 with 1/8 dot.. wow that thing is clear as a bell.
Was hoping for a Sunday vid.
The first 22-50 that I purchased was used and at first that shot straight half inch or less groups . I shot crows at 300 yards. I settled on Varget A-Max 52 grain with 1:14 twist. After serval hinders of rounds, the gun shot erratic which is kind of what you’re seeing for your testing. I sent it in to Ruger and they said that the barrel was worn out. Fortunately for me they offered to replace the barrel for free but we’re no longer in production so the gave me a Hawkeye 22-350 at cost.
I was just reading that the Speer 70gr Semi Spitzer SP was designed to stabalize in 1:12 and 1:14 twist, with its very short round nose design. Its listed as a heavy jacket, controlled expansion, varmint bullet. Might be a fair option for hunting, if the 62gr GD doesn't stabalize. If it shoots, it would be very interesting to see what it does in gel.
I’ve had great results with H380 in my Tikka 243. The most accurate load I’ve had in that gun is Berger 95 grain Classic Hunters and the minimum Berger load of H380.
I shoot those same Bergers in a 10 twist 6mmBR, I also shoot the 55 and 70 gr SBK with the same barrel. My goto powder is Norma 203 B for the 95 and AA 2520 for the light pills.
There is always a flyer. One thing I would like to see is to strap the rifle down and use a trigger weight pull gauge that way human deviation would be eliminated.
I competed using a 22lr...at 50 yards. Most use sub-sonic rounds. Used an expensive rifle. ( I dont have one of those ! ) First think I notices.. I could " see " the bullets go down range. With a perfect back ground and lighting this is possible ! Very interesting..... I watched the bullets cork screw down range. After trying this with three different rifles. Im now positive its not the shooter. Its the rifle and or bullets/ cartridges ! There is only so much a person can do to make a rifle shoot accurately. After that....its mother nature at work !
People make up many excuses for accuracy. Not many apply !
Been doing well with RL16 in light and heavies in 22-250
Hey big E
Watching these again as I’m doing a new load for my 22-250. The last H-380 shot the rifle didn’t recoil straight back as it had for previous shots, you got some barrel lift which suggests probably a bit more shoulder behind the shot forcing the recoil up instead of back.
41 grns 380 5000 free bore good starting point
55gn Nosler varminter BT run through both my old 77 bull barrel and my late model Predator 22/250 incredibly well. Sniping crows at set up 600 prone is child’s play. It’s hard to even try anything else.
I topped my 22-250 with a 4.5 -30 x 50 6500 elite bushnell. I can see extremely clearly even further than i can shoot.
38 grains of H380 behind a 52 grain HPBT match bullet resulting in a Dime size five shot group on a paper target 100 yards away. That is the classic 22-250 Remington load developed by Bruce Hodgdon himself and how that powder got its name.
Magnum primers are a must 22-250 and .243 55 grain varmagadens with varget are scary accurate and fast
Bought a used savage axis in 22-250 years ago and ended up giving up on it, couldnt find a bullet it liked
Hey Johnny! Been watching qnd learning a lot here. I had a cool idea I thought I would share that maybe could make for good content and an interesting experiment. 224 projectile in the 30 cal sabots in 300 blackout. Create a super supersonic for the SBR maybe?
Awesome video! I wouldn't be too awfully worried about SDs and ES with the 22-250 due to the speeds being so high. 50 FPS isn't going to matter in ranges that the 22-250 shines in anyhow. Especially when those 50grs are cranking at 3800+. In my experience the 22-250 falls apart after 400 yards due to the low B.C of the bullets without wind. With wind, it struggles past 300. Your overall result was stellar and I would feel plenty armed taking that out varminting.
I'm curious to see how heavy you well be able to go like 62 / 69 grain, and if it will have stability problems.
50 grain Barnes Varmint grenades work will well too with Varget.
I think the 22-250 may be one of the best calibers for punching through body armor. Any chance you could test various bullet designs vs some thick ar500 to see what turns to smoke and what pokes holes?
China is rumored to have Ironman looking suits that makes the 2 California bank robbers look soft. It is supposed to withstand sustained small arms fire from all standard hunting rifle calibers using standard ammo.
380 got its name..38gr with any 50 to 55gr ...bug holes...i load 39gr w 55bt...great 440yd load.
A comment about your rifle rocking, I don't remember the maker, but they made an attachment that would screw into the front sling swivel (if you have one) it was in a u shape with a flat bottom. to keep the rifle from rocking.
My favorite bullets in 223 rem. , but in 55g.
38 gr of h 380 with a 55 was what Hodgen famous
I've been using suede bags for years & years......best way to go. I've bought and tried other rests with the plastic, rubber, & foam surfaces and they're horrible. Anything sticky or grippy is a bad idea......like the old MTM Predator rests for example. They'll grip the stock and if there's any torque or pressure on the stock in any lateral direction, at the shot, the gun will snap loose in that direction tossing it. Leather is a good alternative to suede if you use baby powder on them to coat them with. Anything with vinyl, plastic, or foam cradling surfaces.......no good
What barrel are you using? And the scope? Great shooting!
Johnny, Boy great video except for number 10 flyer, I have been shooting the Superformace Varmint Hornady .50gr and getting 3970 FPS, an the groups are almost one hole @ 100yds, at 300yds I shot a .35 group. So fast and so accurate, do have a photo of the group @ 300. Do you have any idea of what H could be using in their boxes right off the shelf? 24" heavy barrel on a B-14 Bergara , sure like some input from you. This stuff is amazing, and your video was very use full about the H 380👍👍👍👍
Should look into imr 8208xbr it's what I use in my 22-250 and have shot .50 moa groups
Johny please try the vmax 60gn it's not supposed shoot well in my gun BUT it just does
Dumb question, does ultrasonic cleaning help to stress relieve the brass.
Alright johnny.....i got a real brain learnin question for ya....i have just under 1000 rounds of wolf 100gn 6.5 grendel ammo that shoots like garbage through my 22" black rifle armory AR. It's a solid setup. Rilfe lenght buffer, heavy barrel....the works. I have 6.5 grendel brass, good powder, and 2 different weight hornady ELD projectiles but NO large rifle primers to be found anywhere! Can i empty out this steel case wolf and make a load with better powder and a better projectile using the factory berdan primer? And if yes, will the steel cases damage my die? Love your videos by the way brother.....learned a ton from you! God bless ya sir!
Try bumping up the h380 load to 39.5 gr. Been a great load in several 22-250's for me.
have you tried coating projectiles in HBN powder before?
What target system are you using, I’ve been seeing it pretty regular on utube channels. NICE !
Hey Johnny could you do a cast bullet video with your mosin I am having a hard time finding data for loads.
I use that same bullet but i run R17. Works good in 2 rifles
I missed this on twitch, or was it not on there? FZ
I use imr 4350 with 55gr noslers and it cuts holes but I'm always looking for new load options
Note...... done this many times..... and found if I place the rifle butt into my shoulder tight.... my heart beat throws the shots off. Try timing your pulse.....see what happens. Better yet...dont place the rifle butt against your shoulder.
I want to see that 55 gun Gold Dot too.
I’d like to see h380 and 55gr. Vmax. It’s a good combo nation in my .22-250
40 to 41 380 perfect
I have never heard so many excuses whilst trying to work a load up!
Am I the only one missing JRB hitting & showing actual paper targets? 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Not many jokes in this video Johnny come on brother lol
I think it might be time to for you to get serious & download the GRT program & start working up loads based on OBT markers.
I've been using GRT & so far, every load that I've matched the velocity to the OBT has been an excellent grouper.
Johnny, are you still streaming on Twitch? What nights if so?
I'm surpised by this. I have a Ruger American Predator in 22-250 with a Vortex Crossfire 2 scope. All in was like $780. I shoot factory loads of Hornandy Varmint Express VMAX 55 gr around 1.25" groups at 200 yards. I was expecting one ragged hole in this video given your precision hand loads. I clean my gun after every shooting session....could be why maybe? I know it goes against the grain as it realtes to cleaning to much. But it wokrs and I have no reason to change anything.
35.2 Imr3031 is a good powder with 55 vmax.
You're using the rear bag backwards. Looks like it needs some sand too.
I think a rail will sort of ruin the looks of the rifle. Will be interesting to see what setup you end up with.
i load for a 22-250AI using 55gr and 60gr vmax i found that the ADI AR2209 (H414/H4350) worked better than AR2208 (varget) the ADI powders are sold in the USA by hodgdon.
I had very similar results with my 22-250ai with 55gr bullets. The rifle has a 26in gain twist barrel. It was only when I got into the 4350 burn rate range that I was able to get the speed this cartridge is capable of.
Shots divisible by 5 are cursed
Awesome