.22-250 Rem - Verifying my best loads with the 55gr Gold Dot and 50gr Ballistic Tip
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- Re-testing some of my best loads with the 55gr Speer Gold Dot and the 50gr Nosler Ballistic Tip in .22-250 Remington. The powders are Alliant Reloder TS 15.5 and Hodgdon H380.
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My daughter was shooting long range yesterday and shot a bird off a target at 660 yards. She said it was an accident 🇺🇸
There is something I have learned while shooting. If you ever see a small songbird sitting somewhere, and you tell yourself you will NEVER be able to hit it, don't shoot at it. Because your fundamentals will be perfect on that shot and you will ALWAYS kill that poor bird.
You're so kind to your brother for making him some loads, even though you've had his rifle for years .........LOL
Varmint hunting with a 3800 FPS 50 grain round?! The squirrel will explode! 😂🤣😂
Great video as always though!
I run a 50gr vmax at 4000 😂😂😂😂 consistent .5" groups any day of the year. The thing rips critters into a different dimension.
Every birthday/christmas/easter... "So Johnny, about that 22-250 I loaned you..."
H380 and 55 grain projectiles. Unbelievable in 22-250!!!! Also unbelievable in 70 grain 243. Johnny, thanks for all your work on these videos and hello from Alberta Canada
He can’t be missing it after two years 😀
Great video. I just bought a T7 and love it, glad to see yours back on the bench!
Thank you for the 'complete experience' video of loading and then full evaluation of shooting accuracy. Clearly, I have to get into custom loading (even though I dread all the equipment and time to learn the techniques! 😂). Thank you again - so well done!
Thank you for another 22-250 video! I'm doing load development for mine that I built up last fall, but down to my last 100 large primers
Love the 22-250!
Watch both of your channel’s Johnny. Always entertaining!
Really want to see you retest an old video of your’s, or a Saga if you will. You left it at a cliff hanger and I have been wanting to see you do a continuation of it for a long while. The 53gr vs 55gr v-max in .223.
Same here. I love the 53 vmax. Much higher BC than any other .224 bullet in its weight class.
Nice back to the old days of JRB….. just a relaxing reloading session
Awesome work sir!
Awesome work!!!
The 22-250 is now considered an older cartridge but man is it a screamer! I was introduced to it by Shooting Times author Rick Jameson. The 22-250 was among his favorite cartridges and Rick did an extensive load development. Although I've always been fascinated with it for some reason I never purchased a rifle chambered in it.............but there's lots of time to change this! Nice work John and Happy New Year!
I look forward to the build!
Always good info, thanks.
Starting my 300 black out build next month love the videos even tho they are 5 years old
Thank you. Great video.
Just rewatching your crimp vids and whala and T7 thank you
glad to see someone else other then me that knows a 22_250.... i have a old Remington 788 bought new in 1977 out of all the bullet combinations and powders I've tried... almost any bullet any powder is good enough to kill a deer at 200 yards... but for competition shooting you looking at dime groups at 200 yards??? I only found two loads in mind that work perfect no scope adjustment either both rounds fly on top of each other. a 50 gr Winchester ballistic silvertip with 38 grs of H380. my favorite is 55 gr Hornady V max with 35.5 grs of Imr 4895......
I have shot a pickup load of whitetail deer with a 22-250 with 55 grain soft point bullets of various manufacture, I only had to shoot two deer with a second shot, both were due to bad placement, chest cavity and neck shots have always ended in rapid dispatch of the deer. I have stepped up my 22-250 to 22-250 AI with a 1x7 twist and shoot bullets up to 80 grains with great results on deer and hogs.
All my RCBS and Redding seating dies I remove the seat stem and polish the cup edge and a little bit up into the cup. This usually doesn’t leave a ring mark on the bullet nose, unless it’s a highly compressed gunpowder chamber, which will leave a slight ring. It’s really depends on the particular bullet type with more likely with varmint type bullets, and less likely with medium/big game bullets. Also the type of gunpowder I’ve noticed that spherical type gunpowders compress with less force then kernel type gunpowders.
I saw the thumbnail for this video and at first I thought it was a keyholed bullet hahaha
Good old 22-250 . Great vermint rd for coyote or fox or big cats bobcats I say.
I herd of southern deer hunters loveing to use them small deer. So 55gr gold dot showed do well. Those nosler would properly do well for deer I use the 6mm nosler balistic Silvertips in 95gr for deer in pa.
I've found it very easy to put a seating mark on the Nos BTV. Even after running them over a mandrel the stem in my Redding competition bushing dies would leave a mark. Once fired though that ring goes away. Thanks!
Good to hear you mention twist rate. So many people just ignore that. ???
Thanks for the video
I would love to see you dive into a 22 Creedmoor. Maybe do a barrel swap(AR) or bolt action build/re-barrel. I'm starting to see some really long bullets with high BC's come to the market and Graff's has the Peterson Brass. I can see all kinds of potential with this cartridge.....Just a thought. I really enjoy your video's, keep up the good work! Always informative!
Thumbs up for gold dots in .22-250!
The URBANRIFLEMAN LLC makes some prefit barrels. Has a 14 day turn around and there 1:8 twist. I am currently waiting on mine in 22-250. Kinda excited.
BCA now has a 22-250 AR10
Sierra 55 grain GameKing bullets are also great for deer.
My favorite is Nosler 60 grain Partition bullet. It a semi-spitzer. So the length stays at typical 55 grain length.
The varmint bullets have a very thin jacket, so I'd imagine that was contributing to your seating woes.
That hummingbird heard an even smaller bird moving really fast was seen in the area. Had to come check it out 😆😆
Nice shooting. 3600 fps is cooking.
I have a theory that scuffed bullets from seating stems would not affect performance as the air would flow over the marks like they weren't even there. But, I have been too lazy to test it.
a scuffed bullet???? no good... a projectile going 2200 mph??? effects it Big time
It makes a difference just not enough to matter for most shooters
Probably helps it like a golf ball or a boat bottom makes a tiny air cushion and less drag. I’d assume it wasn’t recordable to many other variables
depends on the range. it will screw up the BC big time.
Lots of guys run 22 250 here in Texas for deer hunting. 500 yards is common shots down the long senderos
That setup is so pretty 😢 bye brother’s 22-250
Well. I couldnt stop thinking of your 6.5 pic video today. I am trying to form/fire form some 38/55. In the process I destroyed 2 of my very limited number of 60 year old original pieces of brass. Broke the extractor on the 94. Destroyed countless. 30/30 cases. Then after just about getting it figured. I walked through the garage door and blasted my barrel on the top door jam. Yep time to watch some Johhnys reloading bench and further piss off the old lady. Who I might add. Doesn't appreciate the explosions coming from the garage.
Should add. After failing to locate my universal decapping die. I proceeded to break not only the stem in my rcbs comp sizing die. But also the Forster elevated expander stem 5 mins later. Note to self. Do not use expensive 308 dies in wannabe cowboy experiments.
In the interest of sharing. It is highly un advisable to decapp 38/55 with 380 dies. Just don't.
Johnny, I Zeroed a Bergara B-14 24" barrel for my partner with Hornady 22-250 V-Max 50 gr at 100yds. I can't believe how well it sends those. like almost one hole group, so took it to 300 yds. with .1 mil up, shot a .38 " group,, it's FPS avg. is 3975, you have any clue what powder they are using? Most what I see except for the H 380 you loaded is around 3500-3600 FPS, all of the shots were out of the box. He took it P dog hunting in ND 3 weeks ago and was busting them at 550yds. Enjoyed your video so much, keep them coming . 👍👍👍👍
Great shooting rifle Johnny! Did it change much after you replaced the scope? God bless buddy! 🎚🙏🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
Got to get me some of those gold dots
Hey Shannon so for the longest time I have done a method where I wet tumble do all my sizing stuff and at the end I wet tumble again. Recently though I got a henderson precision trimmer and found something unsettling. Wet tumbling at the end causes the case mouth to peen over and it measured for a 223 at about .218 so now I ultrasonic clean at the end instead.. just an FYI in case you're meticulous about neck tension
Do you think that first group was due just to deformation or has coke bore been a big factor with this rifle??
Did ya give up on the chamber chiller? I almost bought one but never ended up doing it.
Try a Forster seating die. I've never had rings like that when I seat BT's, or anything else for that matter. I'm completely sold on Forster dies. Been using them for 15 years. The only time I buy something else like Redding is when it's a cartridge that Forster doesn't offer.
I wouldn't be happy with either of those groups to be fair...I guess some people are easily pleased 😉
Awesome video, as usual!! Would love to see you get a 7” or 8” twist 22-250 barrel! I have a 9” twist 22-250 barrel on my at10, and I feel that a 7” or 8” twist would be more useful!
At that point might as well get the AI chambering. Shoot those heavy bullets and get another 100 fps. I hear you can shoot standard 22-250 in it to fire form the brass and its still pretty accurate while doing that.
@@Nick-sx6jm I don't think there are any AI cartridges that aren't made by fireforming the 'standard' cartridge
Maybe a 22 Creedmoor if Johnny is good with going custom or hopefully it gets a SAAMI spec and rifle manufacturers catch up with ammunition and brass manufacturers. Rather than specifying a "custom" twist use a similar cartridge with the faster twist as standard like 6.8 Western over 270WSM.
@jeff abernathy "at10" you talking AR10 platform rifle?
I was hoping to see a Bergara 22-250, factory gun comes in a 9" twist. IMO it would make for some interesting content without getting into a custom chambering.
I need another rifle like I need another hole in the head, but I sure would like a fast twist 22-250. Another great video. Thanks!
How bad is barrel life with the 22-250 (or the similar 220 Swift)? 400 rounds?
I have a Steven’s 200 1/8 twist McGowan and a timaney tiger love it have you any plan’s to do any hopped up 22 250 research on loads
You can compensate for the twist rate by pulling the trigger more slower. Like a 1 in 14 twist can be made into a 1 in 12 twist by pulling the trigger 2 times more slower. Mathematician like this… (1+14) - (1*12/.02)
Dang after my experience with a douglas barrel,,, I would go with a pacnor now......
I have been using the 52gr eldm with 15.5 @ 3800
Your brother’s gonna get his gun back?! He probably feels like he’s been waiting on a tax stamp, but slower. 😛
Get Bear Creek to send you one of their new 22-250 uppers to try would be interesting .
I loaded 55gr Gold dots and Sierra GK with IMR3031 and about 33-35.5gr. 100% powder burn.
I'll take a subminute group in my hunting rifles every day!
.243???????? you said it was on the short list?
I hunt them with the 62gr at 3050 out of ar15, works well. I would like to see a 55gr at those speeds in gel, them cookin
Then you should check out the "Gel Testing Gold Dots in Gel at High Velocity" video previously seen on the JRB reloading channel. Enjoy.
A 22.25 would be awesome in the tika
Sounds like a lot of y'all want a faster twist. Get a savage 12lrpv there awesome
Just shot some 52gr speer varmint xtra large hollow point across chrono in my 223 today. My 1-8 twist ar15 @3160fps it was killer @90yds 1.25 groups ok
Can you do a slightly faster twist rate like 1:9, so it’ll stabilize things like the 62gr Gold Dot?
I don't see why not get a 1:8 twist so you can at least stabilize 77gr bullets for long range. It doesn't hurt accuracy with lighter bullets nearly as much as people think.
@@rileyneufeld7001 Problem is you cant really shoot the lighter varmint bullets then. It dosent really matter in 223 because velocity is lower but when you move up to 22-250 velocity the bullets will explode in the barrel or in the air with the faster twist.
@@Nick-sx6jm have you experienced that with modern bullets? I have heard this repeated often but usually they're quoting someone who claims it happened in the 70s
@@nk-dw2hm Not personally. I have a 22-250 but is a 1:12 or 1:14 twist. I have seen videos and talked to guys that have had it happen. With the 40-50 gr varmint bullets the jackets are extremely thin and cant handle the fast twist combined with the fast velocity. The rifling will damage the jacket enough that the centrifugal force will tear the bullet apart when exiting the barrel or downrange.
@@Nick-sx6jm as often as I've seen people make that claim, I've seen just as many people say it's untrue and that they've had success or that it only happened with older bullets. I'd put more faith in first hand knowledge, especially with video evidence. Not trying to be a jerk just not ready to buy into third hand often disputed info, once I find more large rifle primers I'll get back to burning out my current barrel so I can try a faster twist AI one
I think in needs a grain OR 2 more in the RL 15
Do you have a favorite turret press?
35grains R15, 55grain NBT CCI BR2 2.040" ogive in Lapua brass 3440fps has given me my most accurate load in any rifle(always work up a load)
If you want to deer hunt with a 20-50 get a 1 and 8 twist minimum be able to step up in the weight grain and do some damage
I've killed so many deer with my savage 110 varminter. I load serria 63 gr sp with imr 4895 at 3450 fpe. biggest buck 240 plus pounds big 8 point around 90 yds. vital area quarting shot stayed right there. farthest shot 300 yds vital shot and went no where. many vital, neck bone, some head shots .papa wishing you well
@@johnnymccann5607 what twist do you use
22 creed is the best .22 centerfire yet. In fact, the military could make a .22 cal version of their 6.5x51 and it would only take a barrel swap to have a low recoil option for the spear.
Change to green dots :-) :-). Maybe a government drone?
I love the .22-250 and I've killed several deer with it using Federal ammo with a 55 gr. HP. It bugs me that gun manufacturers will not provide those of us who love shooting the .22 CFs with rifles with a faster twist so that we can use larger bullets. I love the .22 Hornet and I've killed a buttload of deer with it, all throat shots at 100-150 yards with my hand loads. All of these .22 CF except maybe a Swift are just too slow so, unless you can find a gunny to replace the barrel and set it up for you, just cannot stabilize anything greater than 45-47 grains. At Hornet velocities a 55-65 grainer would really shine in that caliber. Same with all of them actually.
Never done much research on the .22 centerfires outside of .223 Remington/5.56 NATO, so it kind of surprises me that the twist rates are so slow. I'm used to seeing a 9:1 twist at the slowest.
Then again, I do know that bolt action .223s tend to be down in the 12:1 range, so maybe not so surprising. Still, you'd think at least one manufacturer would've looked at the success of the semiauto .223s and gone, "Hmm, maybe they're on to something."
You are so nice to your brother. My brother is a dick he always thinks he knows everything but he does not. Not even close.
Bear creek armory just came out with Ar10 upper in 22-250. Don't make me buy it
Do a 22gt instead. Better in every way
KEEP the gun give him the new one
I wanna see someone do some 220 Russian. The Soviet 22-250.
Whoteewho actually shoots decent groups with that CVA cascade of his and he is a mediocre shooter that uses factory ammo. If I was going out to buy an off the shelf 22-250 at a reasonable price that is probably the direction I would go.
And cant shoot without a lead sled, and when he does, "its thr best group IVE ever shot" with a gun vise...stupid
👍👍🇺🇲 Lgb!
I’d never directly drop a charge in a case?? I would Always drop the charge less and trickle up to the charge you want. I loaded this way all my life. Now 68 years old. Seating problem in video?! Totally puzzled what he is doing… I use Wilson hand dies…. NEVER Had this guys Problem….. To make a video of showing incompetently in reloading ?? Not good
Brutal load for a custom barrel?
You have the Wrong powder!!! Horrible group??? Either terrible shot or the powder choice for both: Wrong!!! Could be the powder charge: rework it again? Original trigger on 788? Not very impressed with this video…. But gun isn’t his and I’m my opinion only Did a half ass attempt at reloading…….