Hey! This is Warren that submitted the third match. Sorry for the choppy replay, my PC isnt the best out there. We thought he was cheating because in the first round, could have been by chance, but he did this flick to the floor when I was about to go up the stairs and he pinged, which from his POV looked like he pinged my outline through the floor. Obviously I didnt notice that until watching the replay, but that was a HUGE red flag to me and the peeps I've shown the clip to. Again sorry for the choppy recording!
They combine the sticking mechanism from capitao and put it on the drone, you can see the drone dive bomb forward and stick to the wall behind the piano and since the drone is bigger it has a larger hit box
@@muff1nb0y46 but that doesn't account for the fact that it sticks to something in motion You could argue that it stick to the lethal hitbox of a flores drone but even then, the capitao's arrow sticking wouldn't allow to be stuck to something in motion, instead it would just stay at the initial point where it stuck to a players lethal hitbox range
The Mute Jammer bugging out the cheat may just be the cheat recognizing the jammer's radius as a hit box. If that is true, then the "radius" of the jammer is what the drone stuck to instead of Mute
No it's because mute stops the drone but as far as I have seen it doesn't stop the actual explosion so the hacker probably set it off which stopped the movement since it's muted but not the explosion.
Oh my days... I'm so glad this is a hacker replay, I thought I missed something in last patch, was thinking there is absolutely no reason to have this buff
as someone who knows r6radarman I would like to thank you for flaming him, I have never found something so funny in my entire life his reaction was priceless. Thank you vg.
3rd guy, Mute, was not cheating. I’m the same way, I don’t know much about the maps other than Oregon and Clubhouse, but when I’m ready to gunfight I feel very good at it due to using aim trainers.
For interest sake, how the drone could possibly stick to a players might be that Ubi uses a tag system on objects, such as "Player", "Hard Surface", "Soft Surface", etc. So simply change a boolean check for the drone where it would check "If is player? {Then Stick? = no}" to "If is player? {Then Stick? = yes}".
I'm guessing the flores drone is modified to precieve the lethal hitbox for a flores drone to be a stickable asset That being said, even if that would be the case, i also have no clue how it is able to keep being stuck to something that is in motion
Probably a cheat to pilot (autopilot) a drone after the drone is armed and about to explode. Although I'm not sure about how it chooses its target cuz in that mute jammer scenario, I'm assuming that when it unstuck from Mute when going out from jammer radius, it might be because the drone got back online and since it is on the autopilot, it tries to search for a potential target, but the hacker cant reassign the target cuz he cannot control it again after arming it once
The Flores drones uses a few lines of code to ''stick'' i.e. dock to specific surfaces. Extracting the code and re-working it to attach to a player model is doable as seen, be it a tad jankie.
I think the sticking flores drone is more likely to be "Check if object is solid and not a person, if true then stick" and they just remove the person part
Since the drone just runs and If than check on the back end all they need to do is make the player part of that if than as a yes and it sticks. Very simple check manipulation.
From an engine standpoint, if the cheat has access to the positional data (i.e. X,Y,Z position) of a game object, it can store that value as a follow point. As far as I'm aware, game engines use a Euclidian coordinate system (X,Y,Z). These game objects can include things such as a character, gun, or any other object attached to the gameobject that holds the character model, hitbox, etc If you want the basics, looking up Unity or Unreal Engine tutorials on position and coordinate systems Also how cool would it be if there was a custom match content stream where people try to find the most creative ways to beat specific cheats like the flores drone and have viewers vote on?
So match 3 at the end where the guy does a weird flick up and to the right as he kills a guy, push button aimbot could explain that and how he goes from moving like a lost bot to a perfect aim demon. In this case he pushed the button to lock onto the guy in front of him but accidentally taps it again and it tried to lock onto the next closest enemy which was above and behind to the right of him in perfect line to where he tried to flick to. This is probably his only cheat with no walls or other hacks. This is a cheat that is common with streamer cheaters, all the ones that accidentally show the cheat or get outed on stream by an anti-cheat were using this.
i wanna do a theory on why i think the cheat works. i think it borrows a couple things from different parts of the game and uses it together probably uses the games base drone movement, the Thunt Ai, castor / match replay spectator cam, Doc gadget. The Spectator cam is the code used to make the drone use to fly around the map. Even the way the drone flies around when spectated is similar to how varsity flies around in replay. The base drone movement is obvious cause how else is the drone supposed to move but its what also causes the drone to get messed up by the mute jammer at 7:47. Even though the drone can "fly" its only able to do that after it jumps which makes me believe its not freely moving around but rather it has full control of its jump which gets used like a "flight". So the mute jammer is stopping the base movement of the drone which means the "flight" from the jump is now disabled because drone function is disabled. The drone sticking to people is probably using a combo of a few pieces of code i assume from the Ai from Thunt / the tutorial since they drone in the tutorial. Once the bomb for flores is activated it probably does a check using doc gadget which would explain why the drone goes straight once activated with no drop. It then does a check using the stim code to see if it hit someone if yes it uses the ai from thunt to take control of the "flight" tracking the player it hit. Then blows up like normal. If it misses it goes straight like a doc stim hits a wall then blows up like normal. This would also explain how you could miss with this cheat cause it probably doesnt run the Thunt Ai code all the time because i assume thats how older cheats used to work and that method is probably patched out by now. So this is just the scraps put together to Frankenstein a new cheat. I dont actually have any coding experience but just from meeting people who have cheated in other games being friends or mutuals explaining how their got their cheat to work in that respective game.
Sadly but genuinely respect the hackers coming up with weird bafflinf ideas for hacks bec its 10x more creative than the bs siege been releasing with new ops
match 3 dude was hella choppy, looks like as if they are playing on a server that isn't close to their residence (could have been someone from EU or Asia who's playing in NA servers)
No matter how much I hate hackers I gotta give them credit for having so much unique hacks on this game. Also, you can be terrible at movement and placements of things and can still have crazy aim. Having good aim isn't exclusive to higher ranked players or even people who played forever. Even new players can have crazy aim. Some people will spend time in the practice range or doing some PVE until they got good enough aim and end up doing other modes.
if this question is for anybody not really, some of the new ops are really fun but all the new changes and reworks and stupid buffs and nerfs are why the game died in the first place. love to see the fact that it’s still alive a bit but this is not the game I fell in love with
These cheats are so surprising I think it would actually be kind of cool playing against that. Sort of like an R6 master trickster boss. Shame most cheaters are just closet toxic wallhacker.
Don’t know if anyone noticed match 3 at around 32 minutes the 180 flick it seemed there was a operator close by that he could have aimbotted to just a theory
Match 3 is 100% exactly like me, I'm pretty good at other FPSs so my micro game is fine but when it comes to macro and larger game knowledge I tend to be weaker, I put maybe less than 100 hours into siege kd 1.25 gold 2 mmr Edit: Siege specifically, I don't know how to set up a site, I don't know the layout or the spawn but I can 5k in my sleep.
I want to watch 1 cheater with increasingly funny and stronger cheats vs 5 super good pro league players (Jyxsi and oozie and stuff) along with a sub match with like roy and evan for the funny
bro those have to be some expensive cheats. i have an idea for a new op. flying drones like those but charged with a flashbang. can be countered by jager and everyone else
Is it odd i want this? Is it op yeah.. can it be optimized absolutely If they make it to were you can stick people you can decrease the amount of drones he has so he isnt straight up wiping out the enemy team Okay I just got to a point where Rook would be a really good counter to Flores. Giving people more incentive to run Rook.
I think with so many obvious cheaters it would be even more interesting to see how players try to counter them. Like this impact dude from 1 match or Slxpy warden guy who tried to ruin the match for his cheating teammates a few hacker replays ago.
Watching a cheater like this is way more interesting than just esp and aimbot. Dude has a bo2 hunter killer drone and places claymore through walls its like watching a troll with cheats. The fact that the defenders try to counter it makes everything even better.
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Watching regular players trying to counter cheaters is more interesting then all of Pro League
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Pro league is ass
The impact on the drone 🤯
@@patty4ktrey861 and bringing rook and doc
When I used to play it felt good when you beat a cheater.
Well at least now we can tell Roy that his idea of a Flores drone sticking to a person is finally in the game now 😂
cheatmaker probably was watching roy's video at the time and thought.. why not.
Hey! This is Warren that submitted the third match. Sorry for the choppy replay, my PC isnt the best out there. We thought he was cheating because in the first round, could have been by chance, but he did this flick to the floor when I was about to go up the stairs and he pinged, which from his POV looked like he pinged my outline through the floor. Obviously I didnt notice that until watching the replay, but that was a HUGE red flag to me and the peeps I've shown the clip to. Again sorry for the choppy recording!
They combine the sticking mechanism from capitao and put it on the drone, you can see the drone dive bomb forward and stick to the wall behind the piano and since the drone is bigger it has a larger hit box
Capitao doesn't have a sticking mechanism?
@@VarsityGamingSmoke darts sticks to structures and wall
@@muff1nb0y46 but that doesn't account for the fact that it sticks to something in motion
You could argue that it stick to the lethal hitbox of a flores drone but even then, the capitao's arrow sticking wouldn't allow to be stuck to something in motion, instead it would just stay at the initial point where it stuck to a players lethal hitbox range
The drone sticks to walls. So they remove it having to stick to certain things which is y it seems to float at times
Ok honestly, i'd love an attacker with like 2 flying drone type intel devices. that'd be kind of cool.
I'm thinking like a japanese attacker, a cool name would be ohce
@@cheezyh20 nah nah ehoc
Blackbeard rework
bro no more Asian ops PLEASE feels like all new ops are Asian @@cheezyh20
@@P1Volvo850R we need more trans ops like sens
That would be such a fun event mode
1 hacker v 5 legit players would go hard for any event
imagine UBI will do something against Cheaters 😍😍 Just IMAGINE
A dream
The Mute Jammer bugging out the cheat may just be the cheat recognizing the jammer's radius as a hit box.
If that is true, then the "radius" of the jammer is what the drone stuck to instead of Mute
No it's because mute stops the drone but as far as I have seen it doesn't stop the actual explosion so the hacker probably set it off which stopped the movement since it's muted but not the explosion.
Dude the fucking interaction of them trying to break the wall at 35:10 was genuinely comedy lmfao
I believe they exploit the properties of doc’s and thunderbird’s ability and add it to the use of the Flores drones
Oh my days... I'm so glad this is a hacker replay, I thought I missed something in last patch, was thinking there is absolutely no reason to have this buff
as someone who knows r6radarman I would like to thank you for flaming him, I have never found something so funny in my entire life his reaction was priceless. Thank you vg.
As a wise man once said:
"Napalm sticks to kids."
This t baron guy is an actual genius
3rd guy, Mute, was not cheating. I’m the same way, I don’t know much about the maps other than Oregon and Clubhouse, but when I’m ready to gunfight I feel very good at it due to using aim trainers.
We all know this guy had the Harry Potter theme playing when the drone takes off flying
First guy is literally thanos if thanos wasn’t a cup half full type of dude
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@@Killagin first guy is literally thanos if thanos wasn’t a cup half empty type of dude
@@kingbaco1233?
Hats off to the non cheating team, sticking out and trying to counter.
It looks like the drone follows where the player is looking, it might be getting attached to the third person camera or something like that.
Flores putting on the Rook armor 🤣🤣
For interest sake, how the drone could possibly stick to a players might be that Ubi uses a tag system on objects, such as "Player", "Hard Surface", "Soft Surface", etc. So simply change a boolean check for the drone where it would check "If is player? {Then Stick? = no}" to "If is player? {Then Stick? = yes}".
Scratch logic
At 11:45 the Iana was telling the Sledge where to throw the grenade by standing directly under the Thorn.
"Le sac a dossss"
Ah yes, that french was beautiful
I'm guessing the flores drone is modified to precieve the lethal hitbox for a flores drone to be a stickable asset
That being said, even if that would be the case, i also have no clue how it is able to keep being stuck to something that is in motion
Probably a cheat to pilot (autopilot) a drone after the drone is armed and about to explode. Although I'm not sure about how it chooses its target cuz in that mute jammer scenario, I'm assuming that when it unstuck from Mute when going out from jammer radius, it might be because the drone got back online and since it is on the autopilot, it tries to search for a potential target, but the hacker cant reassign the target cuz he cannot control it again after arming it once
The Flores drones uses a few lines of code to ''stick'' i.e. dock to specific surfaces. Extracting the code and re-working it to attach to a player model is doable as seen, be it a tad jankie.
The ultimate "I had a drone on you"
I think the sticking flores drone is more likely to be "Check if object is solid and not a person, if true then stick" and they just remove the person part
That new Flores buff goes crazy
Looks like the drone copies the same X,Y,Z coordinates of any object it touches, plus an offset. Making it stick to the player
Since the drone just runs and If than check on the back end all they need to do is make the player part of that if than as a yes and it sticks. Very simple check manipulation.
From an engine standpoint, if the cheat has access to the positional data (i.e. X,Y,Z position) of a game object, it can store that value as a follow point. As far as I'm aware, game engines use a Euclidian coordinate system (X,Y,Z). These game objects can include things such as a character, gun, or any other object attached to the gameobject that holds the character model, hitbox, etc
If you want the basics, looking up Unity or Unreal Engine tutorials on position and coordinate systems
Also how cool would it be if there was a custom match content stream where people try to find the most creative ways to beat specific cheats like the flores drone and have viewers vote on?
varsity: “hes not cheating on round one”
mute: *pings a person through the stairs*
2:46
If the Varsity Charm would let me attach flores drones to actual defenders, you bet I'd pay even more than just a subscriptions worth of money xD
So match 3 at the end where the guy does a weird flick up and to the right as he kills a guy, push button aimbot could explain that and how he goes from moving like a lost bot to a perfect aim demon. In this case he pushed the button to lock onto the guy in front of him but accidentally taps it again and it tried to lock onto the next closest enemy which was above and behind to the right of him in perfect line to where he tried to flick to. This is probably his only cheat with no walls or other hacks. This is a cheat that is common with streamer cheaters, all the ones that accidentally show the cheat or get outed on stream by an anti-cheat were using this.
Seriously though, how cool would Flores have been if he had quadcopters instead of regular drones?
Im not even mad for the first cheater. Hes making players innovative in a funny circumstance and thats worth more than any elo game
Would def prefer this type of cheaters than someone hiding walls
I would prefer zero cheaters
Flores got a huge buff update!😂
I think a flying drone would be interesting, maybe not a attacking type drone, but like just for recon
I’m surprised that the teammates didn’t team kill
New christmas event? santa delivering presents
15:20 are we all seriously gonna ignore that ping
bruh why didn't I think that this would be a hacker replay..... was like "Varsity be clickbaiting a flores video" 🤣🤣🤣 this will be sick to see
Babe wake up, varsity posted another hacked replay.
Would be cool if they made an attacker with a flying drone as their ability not gonna lie
about le sac a dos its in french and the s in dos is silent :)
yoooooooooooo im in your video XD DarkW8
so i had the r6 tracker on im not sure myself why it didnt record
Bro is using Sheer heart attack 😭🙏
It’s funny to think when people report us we just come back to piss more players off lol
flores buff looks awesome
my first thought would be to try and shove it on the other side of a hard wall
VarsityGaming charm give me power Used for all of the Gun Varsity!
i wanna do a theory on why i think the cheat works.
i think it borrows a couple things from different parts of the game and uses it together probably uses the games base drone movement, the Thunt Ai, castor / match replay spectator cam, Doc gadget.
The Spectator cam is the code used to make the drone use to fly around the map. Even the way the drone flies around when spectated is similar to how varsity flies around in replay. The base drone movement is obvious cause how else is the drone supposed to move but its what also causes the drone to get messed up by the mute jammer at 7:47. Even though the drone can "fly" its only able to do that after it jumps which makes me believe its not freely moving around but rather it has full control of its jump which gets used like a "flight". So the mute jammer is stopping the base movement of the drone which means the "flight" from the jump is now disabled because drone function is disabled. The drone sticking to people is probably using a combo of a few pieces of code i assume from the Ai from Thunt / the tutorial since they drone in the tutorial. Once the bomb for flores is activated it probably does a check using doc gadget which would explain why the drone goes straight once activated with no drop. It then does a check using the stim code to see if it hit someone if yes it uses the ai from thunt to take control of the "flight" tracking the player it hit. Then blows up like normal. If it misses it goes straight like a doc stim hits a wall then blows up like normal. This would also explain how you could miss with this cheat cause it probably doesnt run the Thunt Ai code all the time because i assume thats how older cheats used to work and that method is probably patched out by now. So this is just the scraps put together to Frankenstein a new cheat.
I dont actually have any coding experience but just from meeting people who have cheated in other games being friends or mutuals explaining how their got their cheat to work in that respective game.
T baron was so smart respect it
And somebody is still going to lose even with flying explosive sticky Flores drones
27:20 dawg Christian wtf man
can confirm i got the varsity gaming charm and suddenly my drones fly
Hell of a flores buff
Are gonna ignore the fire ass diss from Varsity at 27:15
Sadly but genuinely respect the hackers coming up with weird bafflinf ideas for hacks bec its 10x more creative than the bs siege been releasing with new ops
Ngl, this is fucking hilarious 😂
Didn't Evan talk about this and how funny it would be
ngl that drone hack looks like fun lol
on mobile for some reason it won't allow me to change the quality of the video so it's stuck at 360p for some reason
I was actually excited for a rework 😂
drone striking as Flores does look super fucking fun though, we can all agree right?
match 3 dude was hella choppy, looks like as if they are playing on a server that isn't close to their residence (could have been someone from EU or Asia who's playing in NA servers)
No matter how much I hate hackers I gotta give them credit for having so much unique hacks on this game.
Also, you can be terrible at movement and placements of things and can still have crazy aim. Having good aim isn't exclusive to higher ranked players or even people who played forever. Even new players can have crazy aim. Some people will spend time in the practice range or doing some PVE until they got good enough aim and end up doing other modes.
Do you think the devs have done a good job on keeping this game alive
if this question is for anybody not really, some of the new ops are really fun but all the new changes and reworks and stupid buffs and nerfs are why the game died in the first place. love to see the fact that it’s still alive a bit but this is not the game I fell in love with
i’m sorry but the drone flying is really funny
These cheats are so surprising I think it would actually be kind of cool playing against that. Sort of like an R6 master trickster boss.
Shame most cheaters are just closet toxic wallhacker.
soft aim/aim assist wouldn't move a bullet itself just your reticle that would be a magic bullets cheat
Don’t know if anyone noticed match 3 at around 32 minutes the 180 flick it seemed there was a operator close by that he could have aimbotted to just a theory
Playing rainbow like usual “hunter killer drone inbound”
Atleast that flores cheat was something new. We were bored with watching those old "auto-aim" or "wall hacks" cheats 🤣🤣
You and me both
Lol 18:10 he shot her in the leg lol
VG 1st clip is smaľ TH-camr named T-baron
I think the first guy is legit, probably was just being really innovative
its just a new update, flores drones became kamikase yokais 2.0, drones that fly and commit kamikase, that you may understand what means
man i got clickbait, i thought "they" real add new fiture for flores ability
Good buff idea
Match 3 is 100% exactly like me, I'm pretty good at other FPSs so my micro game is fine but when it comes to macro and larger game knowledge I tend to be weaker, I put maybe less than 100 hours into siege kd 1.25 gold 2 mmr
Edit: Siege specifically, I don't know how to set up a site, I don't know the layout or the spawn but I can 5k in my sleep.
it looks like the drone turns into some type of projectile when it sticks
hi:D thank you for uploading
love the vids
I want to watch 1 cheater with increasingly funny and stronger cheats vs 5 super good pro league players (Jyxsi and oozie and stuff) along with a sub match with like roy and evan for the funny
bro those have to be some expensive cheats. i have an idea for a new op. flying drones like those but charged with a flashbang. can be countered by jager and everyone else
I don't condone cheating what so ever, but I rather have guys like this being blatant than those guys who just have walls
It’s like a pest to a drone
Is it odd i want this? Is it op yeah.. can it be optimized absolutely
If they make it to were you can stick people you can decrease the amount of drones he has so he isnt straight up wiping out the enemy team
Okay I just got to a point where Rook would be a really good counter to Flores. Giving people more incentive to run Rook.
How do you have four people with this man on their team and not a single one of them TKs him. Like they aren't even playing the game really.
Lol that charm is over Powered if it be doing that 😂
Blackbeard rework goes crazy
I think with so many obvious cheaters it would be even more interesting to see how players try to counter them. Like this impact dude from 1 match or Slxpy warden guy who tried to ruin the match for his cheating teammates a few hacker replays ago.
I tknow this is kind of late but...
10:47
La Sac A Dos - The Backpack
turned it into a semtex drone
Watching a cheater like this is way more interesting than just esp and aimbot. Dude has a bo2 hunter killer drone and places claymore through walls its like watching a troll with cheats. The fact that the defenders try to counter it makes everything even better.
lets be real, if flores ever get his drones to stick to people, mute will be instant pick or flores banned nonstop in ranked
It probably uses code from the doc stem. Isn't that the only thing that can attach to characters?
Idk how Doc stim would apply, but Thunderbird kona stations "sticking" to you would make a little more sense
Can they hack a player entity id and turn that from player to destructible wall, or something
3:20 maybe it sticks to the gun
For match 3 I think it is a returning player for 3 years+ ago
I don’t get why his teammates saw him cheat with the drone like that and didn’t tk him.