Ranked Lobbies Have 5 STACKS OF CHEATERS

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024

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  • @ruckus_six5944
    @ruckus_six5944 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +95

    the fact Varsity can always find something different to say to promote his charm is just impressive

    • @ethankuchma5295
      @ethankuchma5295 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      This fact is a very large percentage of the reason I am subscribed. Im too lazy to do it, so I can only hope that someone will someday make a compilation of all of his charm promotion transitions.

    • @mcbill7352
      @mcbill7352 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      One of the reasons why I watch every single one of his videos is to hear each of his charm promo variatioms

  • @123nikhil55
    @123nikhil55 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    For match 2, IMO it seems like the guy knows the map. The first wallbang attempt on oryx seemed like he was aiming for the door, the second one on Nokk, there were some yellow pings so he could've had intel that there was someone walking down the hall. The thermite i think was coincidence, he heard the Finka self res but she didn't peak so the accused shot at the door. Maybe to get Finka if she was walking out. For the shot on the plant, its a bit more suspicious, but if there's intel that someone was at door and then could hear the plant so soon, it wouldnt be silly to prefire through the couch.
    It could be that he shoots near players a lot so when he does get accused he can say he tries for wallbangs a lot and just got lucky.
    I think there were too many opportunities that he missed and deaths he could've avoided if he was cheating.

    • @beetleR6
      @beetleR6 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      While I agree with you on most of your points, to say that someone that lost "knows the map" makes me worry about the general knowledge of players in this game.

    • @user-nq6wn4hm7s
      @user-nq6wn4hm7s 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought of exactly the same thing.

  • @CarterWills1
    @CarterWills1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    The guy in match 2 might be an old player returning. He can aim and prefire but he is lost which shows he doesn’t know the map. His tap firing indicates he used semi-auto.

  • @ChoppyMemes_
    @ChoppyMemes_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Hey varsity, please never stop making these videos. I always look forward to them every week on Wednesday

  • @TotallyNotD4rk
    @TotallyNotD4rk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    i gonna be honest i was in the stream for this hacker replay and i watched this episode again for half a hour and didnt realize i already seen it
    thats how good the content is

  • @rhysfairbanks6787
    @rhysfairbanks6787 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +166

    Evan Braddock

  • @gamecommand9421
    @gamecommand9421 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    if they want to nerf nades just make it to where it only does 15 or 20/30 damage when the blast his the enemy through a soft surface, to me thats what makes nades so op is being able to 1 shot operators with 100/110 health through the objective floor.

  • @consolemeerkat
    @consolemeerkat 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    That action shot of Ram running under Amaru jumping into trophy at 41:05 looked kinda cool ngl

  • @Caleb-bf8sh
    @Caleb-bf8sh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    31:30 i think a decent-ish way to disclose that a player's name is a nickname/streamer mode name is to just add a small symbol (like the ubisoft/xbox/ps logos maybe) or something along those lines

  • @jitterclicsound
    @jitterclicsound 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The cheat where you shoot all your bullets at once is called rapid fire (at least in other game like GTA and CS)

  • @ArkXLuna
    @ArkXLuna 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    23:15, the shooting pattern the tap firing I am convinced it just to control recoil better because they probably don't know the recoil patterns of weapons because they can't control their recoil without everything helping them like a flash hider/compensator etc even though they have a foregrip on the gun.

  • @Icharus_
    @Icharus_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If youre in game and you block someone with streamer mode on the streamer mode name goes away and you can see their real name in your blocked users list. Super helpful to check sus players in matches.

  • @link4chunk522
    @link4chunk522 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Varsity sounds like that one always annoyed Subway worker at the start of his video

  • @misanthropic_tendencies
    @misanthropic_tendencies 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Naruto running Nokk 🤣😂

  • @Splach_
    @Splach_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pretty crazy because I’ve played against this OnBaby 5 stack unfortunately we lost and now this proves why we lost! Thanks for the video

  • @RapTapTap69
    @RapTapTap69 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Can we point out how beastly that nomad was in round 1? Taking out 3 blatant cheaters back to back.
    Also i use streamer mode names because they're funny. I'm currently TurkyFckr🤣

    • @blackops599
      @blackops599 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same reason my name currently is iateourcat

    • @RapTapTap69
      @RapTapTap69 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@blackops599 my friends and like to do matching names as well. We were MrBiggums for an entire night and enemy text chat was so funny🤣

    • @Fredi1811
      @Fredi1811 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah same. Currently I'm running around as Prvt. Parts

  • @elementest1391
    @elementest1391 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    On the second match that common hiding spot on bank front door is my rat

  • @AndrewsonofBeef
    @AndrewsonofBeef 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3rd wall bang in match 2 might not be sus because looks like someone got trapped in frost trap so it would make sense for him to shoot the wall thinking he was going to retreat I think the fact he almost hit the other guy is purely just coincidence

  • @Thankyou99999
    @Thankyou99999 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the Evan Braddock comments will never get old

  • @BamDeadYT
    @BamDeadYT 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This just feels like every game I play on pc honestly.

  • @JohnS-ng4mh
    @JohnS-ng4mh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    35:00 As you know you can see team-mates through walls. Some people do like to look where their team is playing. lack of coms. This isnt meant to be patronizing, just a thought process of newer players with less map knowledge like myself! Not a defense either, he's not new. "assisted empathy" I guess?

  • @Dude-do8vo
    @Dude-do8vo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I use streamermode...I use my name in other games too, so don't wanna change it but there is German in it and German Siege players often became suuuuper toxic in the past when they learnt you speak German too (tking on purpose, insulting you, destroying your gadgets etc.)
    What ubisoft could do is that in replays the streamermode name doesn't show up but their real username

    • @ryuuji7986
      @ryuuji7986 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean yall did start WW2, can you blame them?

    • @Dude-do8vo
      @Dude-do8vo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ryuuji7986 I'm not German 😂(there are more countries than Germany that speak German) also the toxic siege players are Germans...it's like as soon as they realize you speak their language, they start being toxic to you for fun...
      or do you mean expecting them to be toxic because their ancestors started WW2?

  • @Bennjipie
    @Bennjipie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hey love your content varsity, i always enjoy the long form videos

  • @AiR1DaN
    @AiR1DaN 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I started playing again recently and my first 2 games of standard had a full-on rage hacker. The new streamer mode means you can't even see if someone's profile is new/see their stats. I guess Siege is ruined :(

    • @CSIGarcia
      @CSIGarcia 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wonder how people end up with hackers. I've played on both console and PC but only ran through one hacker if I remember on my first PC match but after that I haven't found any

    • @AiR1DaN
      @AiR1DaN 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CSIGarcia No idea. 1 dude had a whole YT channel dedicated to hacking

    • @t-dubb669
      @t-dubb669 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      During last season and this season the hackers have just exploded. Its not even a comparison to prior seasons. What really sucks is that I’d rather deal with the old ddosers than those fools with Aimbot and walls.

    • @HadesOrso92
      @HadesOrso92 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you have R6 Tracker downloaded onto your then you can find out their real Ubisoft Connect names, and you have to have R6 Tracker open when you're in the match in order for that info to be seen.

  • @SoySaucing
    @SoySaucing 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    15:52 tf just happened

  • @DoughnutDragon
    @DoughnutDragon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nothin like watching varsity find the susy bakas in r6.

  • @darrintasto1509
    @darrintasto1509 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The griddy is a dance that jamar chase and Justin jefferson do when they score a touchdown. More justin jefferson than jamar, JJ did it in the nfl first lol.

  • @kastoondaria1413
    @kastoondaria1413 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The burst fire is to help recoil, that's at least why i do it on console🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @modoverkill7066
    @modoverkill7066 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chris VarsityGaming

  • @tPeazyy
    @tPeazyy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the match 2 is how i imagine how i look while playing, been playing since operation health in year 2 i think, but that was controller, now i just switched to mnk and that made my positioning ass cause i think of mnk mechanical skill rather than having game sense. so i got really good siege knowledge and game sense but i potato out for a few minutes just concentrating on my keyboard, and i get a bit of wallbang kills, BUT this guy def seems weird, he doesnt try to wall bang much but when he does he gets tooo close to hitting the person, me you can tell its a guess cause i dont get that close everytime i shoot a wall.

  • @aeiou6332
    @aeiou6332 หลายเดือนก่อน

    42:30 wtf ubi?!? my static >:(

  • @HUMANuruCELLS
    @HUMANuruCELLS 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Rogue/Koi comment. The information I see online says they are gonna rebrand to Koi, not the other way around. Unless I'm reading old news.

  • @Eski813
    @Eski813 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Paying to boost on ranked 2.0 is insane

  • @SlyManVideos
    @SlyManVideos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Evock Braddan

  • @Mind_ConTroll
    @Mind_ConTroll 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a 20% game rate of not "full on knowing" there are cheaters, meaning 80% percent of my games there is an obvious cheater, there may be more, but 80% of "full on obvious" cheaters is insane.

  • @cantalope6980
    @cantalope6980 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    varsity always fills me up with this good content

    • @D-Doc-C
      @D-Doc-C 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Jynxzi commenters are bleeding into every corner of r6

    • @DasNarri
      @DasNarri 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@D-Doc-Cthere’re filling us all up with cancer

  • @maddy5975
    @maddy5975 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    in match 2 it seems like the guy next to thermite like spins while hes prine so maybe he hears that movement kinda on his left and just shoots?

  • @DasNarri
    @DasNarri 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Match two could just be a bad player with cheats or just a weirdly large amount of coincidences. Good cheater match replay though, very mysterious.

  • @lonz0_0
    @lonz0_0 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FYI the bans mean nothing....I am in Diamond/Champ lobbies and sometimes teams mess around and do weird bans. It's still a game lol the other day a team banned glaz and lesion.

  • @popipo1104
    @popipo1104 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    tbh the second match, i take a lot of shots trough walls, ammo is free why not take the shot every time you are just a little suspicious, specially if you are on site and they already know you are there, first time heard oryx walk and shot at the door on the other room, second time heard thermite run and shoot at the door on the other room, i've run outta ammo in some matches for taking those shots

  • @nurntbigger
    @nurntbigger 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fortnites streamer mode names are better because at the end of the game it tells u their name (If they win and ur still watching them), aswell as showing u their name in replay. Streamer names work differently bc its a br and not a fps game where it shows all of the names

  • @jlake1991
    @jlake1991 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Evan Breadcock. Monsieur E. Baguette

  • @Nymerian_
    @Nymerian_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love getting in matches versing 3 champs while my team are gold max

  • @TOUD_
    @TOUD_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    shit looks like Washington crossing the Delaware

  • @isaiahmyers01
    @isaiahmyers01 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact that i just ran into a stack helping one of their partner cheating smh. maybe ill be on a replay sometime! lol

  • @Bram_Weijgers
    @Bram_Weijgers 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact that he has a diamond background does not mean the 5 stack is diamond. I play with a 5 stack of golds. You wanna know how many diamonds and champs I see on the enemy team.

  • @DoughnutDragon
    @DoughnutDragon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    45:15 thats a roy strat i swear

  • @beetleR6
    @beetleR6 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kanal and Coastline are always the maps I play cheaters lol.

  • @Puddin_tv
    @Puddin_tv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    21:44 cause no full auto in building !

  • @yelixx1536
    @yelixx1536 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ok when varsity says thats not a common plant spot i find that to be completely wrong. thats like default plant up till plat on xbox. so like i would prefire the same thing if i had that intel. obviously different platforms are different but this could jus be a kid from xbox or playstation. but that is most def a popular plant spot lol

  • @jaycoit
    @jaycoit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can tell you how sad it is, when people who can't even get gold just wanna platinum trophy to add to a collection and never touch the game again, sad asf

  • @Eski813
    @Eski813 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Cheating on standard is crazy

    • @VarsityGaming
      @VarsityGaming  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      People cheated in new comer, they are truly sad

    • @deathbomer55
      @deathbomer55 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@VarsityGamingpeople who cheat in general are sad

  • @sniprrr7683
    @sniprrr7683 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love you VG

  • @shuraamano
    @shuraamano 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ubisoft doing nothing as usual.

  • @trigunfan97
    @trigunfan97 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why play ranked when 99% of people opt to not talk for call outs , strats, info or coordination

    • @VarsityGaming
      @VarsityGaming  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Exactly. Standard (or old unranked) for laife

    • @trigunfan97
      @trigunfan97 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @VarsityGaming im glad as a full time content creator it bugs you too. Ive put 100 hours into the game since ive been back after multiple years gone. And the game at is core is still fun in a team play strategic aspect. But if youre not in a 3-5 stack its abysmal

    • @r6iz
      @r6iz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@VarsityGamingthink u spelt layf wrong.

  • @Totalclown87
    @Totalclown87 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Varsity your videos inspired me to play siege after a year of not playing.

  • @mrt3206
    @mrt3206 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    (Match 1) I don’t think it matters if a cheater is telling someone where everyone is at, if it’s clear they are all playing together it should be handled like DayZ and other games where they all should be banned for playing with cheaters even if one of them isn’t “cheating”👌
    And by them all having the same name I would conclude they always play together🤷‍♂️

  • @Maikologi
    @Maikologi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I already can't imagine being such a loser that I have to cheat, let alone being a loser with 4 other shit lords that all suck at the game together.

  • @JohnDeere6969
    @JohnDeere6969 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love you daddy varsity ❤

  • @jdot666x420
    @jdot666x420 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if they release another gadget and its a frag that's already cooked. Basically an impact but the damage and radius of a frag. Or new operators ability

  • @StepSisRUstuck
    @StepSisRUstuck 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2.00 the cavs kills. I play on xbox and thats not strange ads before you peek and try predict where their head or torso would be ive done this more times than i can count and if i could prove im not cheating i would but im only in yt comments

  • @buredakku8321
    @buredakku8321 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An unfortunate matchup against 5 game-less losers. The OnBaby squad is the bane of my existence.

    • @Darxz592
      @Darxz592 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m one of them lmao

    • @Darxz592
      @Darxz592 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are we in your nightmares?

    • @Darxz592
      @Darxz592 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      OnBaby

  • @snazzygolembatman7737
    @snazzygolembatman7737 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    they removed the cooking ability

  • @BlackArche0ps
    @BlackArche0ps 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do you think in match 2 they were toggle cheating for flick clips?

  • @kart00nki11a
    @kart00nki11a 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I played that first five stack before. They were talking so much shit but we shut them down and won

  • @daal7767
    @daal7767 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a recommendation:
    Deeper dives.
    For players that are undetermined, they get reviewed again - say, the week after.
    This will require submitters to put the names of the cheaters in the file names, though, to make searching simple.

  • @reesetp
    @reesetp 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Daddy Varsity

  • @baus2k
    @baus2k 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that not a black ice attachment skin in game 2 as capitao?

  • @darrintasto1509
    @darrintasto1509 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Match 2 at 19:19 makes me think bad player with walls he looks at cav and the aruni and waits, oryx was cruched but could probably be heard. But definitely lined people up through walls from what i saw. I think him being a bad player not knowing how to play makes it look less sus but it is sus.

    • @darrintasto1509
      @darrintasto1509 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At 22:07 I think he's so bad he can't control the recoil that's why he does the light burst fire instead. That way he doesn't need aimbot and look less sus.

  • @juggernautwzrd
    @juggernautwzrd 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    random comment to help with the **ALGORITHMS** 11/8 feeling better

  • @maxhasnoidea3756
    @maxhasnoidea3756 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Avg ranked lobbies be like

  • @Mionzi_Gamez
    @Mionzi_Gamez 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    NOTI GANG!!

  • @ANTI8551
    @ANTI8551 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like most diamonds and Champs are cheaters especially on consoles

    • @VarsityGaming
      @VarsityGaming  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      if by cheaters on console you mean xim, probably. But if you mean actual cheats then no, same with PC. You only need 5% of the total population to cheat to encounter a cheater every other game. It's not that many people that cheat

  • @Visual.M
    @Visual.M 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    video not got uploaded yet properly)

  • @faze_jayyeet7198
    @faze_jayyeet7198 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Daddy varsity

  • @trevor5834
    @trevor5834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does anyone else immediately go to the start of each match to see if A) they're in the lobby or B) they know anyone in the lobby?
    One of these times I'm gonna get destroyed by a cheater and have the pleasure of VG spectating me getting absolutely blasted.

  • @IcyTorments
    @IcyTorments 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    streamer mode just needs to go in almost every game, 90% of the people who use it arent even streaming.

  • @osemnome6779
    @osemnome6779 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    in match 2 is that gringo players in brazilian lobby or brazilians players in gringo lobby? 🤔

  • @Lu_Wars
    @Lu_Wars 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Zezinho is a Brasilian nickname

  • @mmkanashiro
    @mmkanashiro 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    having a cheater at your team whit your same name is great, ubi can ban the hole team and say, we have proof that the guy whit your name is cheating... if they appeal ubi can say like, why couldnt get the exact number after the name or just use the safe way and ban by boosting

  • @acfrmlc
    @acfrmlc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the past week or two it seems like word must have gotten out about cheats being ez again. Probably gonna put the game down for the rest of season and hope they turn the anticheat back on. Stuff really did seem to be getting better, but it looks like we are headed back to the days of insane cheats and nothing being done about it. I love siege but this stuff ruins the game for me. oh well back to battle bit!

  • @outis_406
    @outis_406 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1. Definitely cheating.
    2.I don't think match 2 is a cheater, all 3 spots he fired at are common, and he may have had some type of callouts in game. I do think the wall shots look odd, but he also doesn't hit a single bullet on ANY of those bursts, I'd imagine a dude with walls would either kill, or hit a least one of his shots. You can argue he was trying to hide it, but if he was trying to hide it, why would you take the shots at all? If anything, I feel like he has a cheater in the lobby giving call outs, but he himself is not cheating.
    3. I agree he's cheating, but there are times where I'll adjust my hand, or do something while playing, and ill spin. No defense, dude is definitely completely sus.
    4. Doesn't look like a cheater to me.
    5. Doesn't seem like cheater.
    6. Cheater
    Response To The Grenades thing: I think they should keep nade cooking, but once the pin is pulled you cannot put it back or reset. This would go inline with removing reload canceling. So ultimately you only get one chance with the nade.

  • @JTPS_Kasper
    @JTPS_Kasper 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if you can be certain they’re a 5 stack and that 1 of them is cheating, then they’re all cheating…move onto next match

  • @laneyoungblood9703
    @laneyoungblood9703 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What’s the point of rank boosting if you can’t play in the rank you boosted to

    • @RapTapTap69
      @RapTapTap69 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rank rewards and bragging rights

  • @muhammadammarrasyid5780
    @muhammadammarrasyid5780 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    brad what now?

  • @BadR6Edits-MORE
    @BadR6Edits-MORE 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hacker replay your friends

  • @akalazarus
    @akalazarus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also, match 3 [mctriple] - zero recoil?

    • @WordDoco
      @WordDoco 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      as the owner of match 3. pretty sure it's match replay issue. in game the recoil was whatever

    • @akalazarus
      @akalazarus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WordDoco oh gotcha. 😁

  • @suddydoesgaming1948
    @suddydoesgaming1948 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:00

  • @Shirolabs
    @Shirolabs 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Varsitygaming

  • @anthonyazzarelli2072
    @anthonyazzarelli2072 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Evan Bradcock

  • @mes6002
    @mes6002 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Devan Raddock

  • @blackstar-ezz8628
    @blackstar-ezz8628 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hacker + boting = ded game

  • @TheRandomGamer_
    @TheRandomGamer_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yessir

  • @ThievesBeast
    @ThievesBeast 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These videos help cheaters and make them better at hiding their cheats lmao

  • @awesomefan935
    @awesomefan935 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just want the cheats.

  • @loganmalloy295
    @loganmalloy295 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    am i the only one that thinks the second guy was cheating just because of the perfect recoil control

  • @seansanghera3214
    @seansanghera3214 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Idek how you get so many cheaters, I’m Emerald 1 rn and 90% have been fair

  • @frankj2665
    @frankj2665 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What fun is it being a cheating champ? You must be a teenager tbh

  • @SeyCNL
    @SeyCNL 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😊😊

  • @JeremyB897
    @JeremyB897 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cheaters are just such desperate losers man stop cheating and actually get good!