i saw this on the local news, even the sailors who rescued them said it was suspicious, the head sail had never been unfurled, the one woman would not let the other talk alone to the media.
@@nancyoffenhiser4916 Bad judgment was at play, at the very least. Apparently they knew each other for only a week before deciding to set off on an ocean voyage together.
You can tell the boat wasn’t sinking by the algae growing along the waterline. The mast seemed fine. At least fine enough to hold the sail up to display and S.O.S. message.
I'm sorry, as a yachtsman with 36 years of experience both sea and inland I find this story extremely supicious. Boat sits high. Mast is upright. Rigging is there. They have at least 2 sails still on the boat with enough lines on them to jerryrig a smaller sail just to get 2-3k of speed. If the ruddere was damaged, you can jerry rig one too with what you have on board. You won't be able to tack or go through hard weather, but that's better then being adrift. Radios failed? They should have at least an emergency raft with EPIRB. They didn't take spare radios, but had food and water for 147 days for two adult humans and dogs? Either there is a lot of information missing or badly conveyed by the report or the two ladies are completly cluless or... this was a stunt.
First, this is CBS so it could be fake. 2nd: they are women. You know: "hear me roar" which means I want equal pay even though I cannot do equal work so yes, I CAN believe they are clueless in this endeavor.
@@dylanrice7075 How do you know they dont have salt sores did you look in there mouth? Also the reason they wetent sunburnt was bc there inside a cabin…
I’ve been a professional mariner for almost 30 years and grew up sailing long before that. I have lots of questions. From what I can tell just watching the video these women had no business at sea.
According to their own story they had packed food enough for a year, for a one-week trip. They also had a desalinator to turn seawater potable. No explanation of what that piece of equipment was running on.
1.) The author and Slow Boat Sailing has verified that the boat was 37-feet long according to US Coast Guard records. That is 13 feet shorter than they asserted. The boat was built in 1979 and was a Starratt & Jenks fiberglass yacht. The Sea Nymph was registered to Jennifer Appel of Haleiwa, Hawaii. It has 36.8-foot length, a 10.8 foot beam, and displaces 18 gross tons. 2.) Ms. Appel and Ms. Fuiva claimed that they could not hail anyone by way of VHF radio for three months. The author and Slow Boat Sailing has verified that they had an EPIRB device registered with the FCC An EPIRB will notify rescuers of the vessel’s distress wherever it is in the world. The EPIRB was registered under the name of the vessel’s previous owner. 3.) Ms. Appel claimed they hit a force 11 storm, which would pack winds of 64-72 miles per hour, off Hilo, Hawaii within a day of their May 3, 2017, departure from Honolulu. Slow Boat Sailing looked at wind speed in Maui about the time of the storm and could find no such winds. Moreover, Slow Boat Sailing looked at NOAA’s records of storms in the Central North Pacific Region and found no records of storms, systems with winds of over 55 miles per hour near Hawaii or in that North Pacific region until July 2017. That contradicts the assertion of a 3-day storm soon after May 3, 2017, made by Ms. Appel. 4.) Ms. Appel said their boat was attacked by tiger sharks as big as 50-feet long. Tiger sharks don’t grow longer than 18-feet long. Many species of sharks are endangered. Many sailboat cruisers enjoy diving with sharks and shark attacks are extremely rare. Slow Boat Sailing filmed sharks in Fakarava, Tuamotus while swimming with them. 5.) Nobody went to retrieve the boat months after the incident, and was spotted floating by Volvo ocean racers. They even remarked it could have been brought back so the whole “it was going to sink in 24 hours” was a lie.
@@GardeninGrace That boat is what's called 'an origami boat' as you can CLEARLY see the sides rusting away (because it's steel). It is not fiberglass. Also, those are a couple of dumb dames.
A couple of nitwits set sail across the world's largest ocean in a decrepit boat and with insufficient knowledge, preparation and skill. That's what really happened.
I have been in the Marine industry all my life , my father was a Navy lifer and an Instructor at the Annapolis Naval Academy . At age 12 we were working on civilian boats together. When I first expressed my desire to have my own sailboat , he turned and said " If you cannot repair every part of your boat at sea, you don't belong at sea " he was correct. My wife and I cruised a 40 foot sailboat for four years after our youngest daughter graduated college. Even with all the knowledge I had gained in the industry, it was almost a full time job maintaining and repairing all the different systems on the boat . Those lady's should have been able to rig some sail to overcome current and wind to navigate to shore, the mast, boom and the for-stay were up . Something is not quite right here.
We had a 15 year old girl who sailed across the world alone, there is a documentary about it, her name is Laura Dekker. Her father was taken to court because he let her go alone, in the end she went around the world without problems and all charges against her father were dropped. If a 15 year old can do that surely these people on the boat should be able to make some sort of make shift sail. Also strange they had food on board for a year. They made the news on tv some people do anything to get on the news like many TH-camrs try to.
My sailing instructor said the same dang thing. “If you don’t know how to fix it? Don’t buy it because you will inevitability have something break in the middle of nowhere”
Doesn't add up. This story feels like when you meet someone on the side of the road with a flat tire who're waiting on tow truck that will cost big money and 2 hours to get there and when you ask them, they have a spare, a floor jack and a 4-Way tire iron in the trunk and absolutely no mental capacity to even consider let alone attempt to replace it. I've never known a sail boat of that size to not have spare sails, lines and pretty much everything short of a spare engine. Something doesn't add up.
@@chris.kaiser What you don't keep a years worth of food on all your boats at all times? I keep 6 months in my car trunk just incase I get lost on the highway.
Nothing about this adds up. The rig looks completely intact. The main absolutely did not sit there for 100 days not even properly secured. The jib is still perfectly furled. This boat is not stranded or sinking.
Article from the New York Times about this: The story of two women who were stranded at sea for 5 months in shark-infested waters seemed almost too cinematic to be true. And now some experts are questioning the veracity of some of their claims. Jennifer Appel, Tasha Fuiava, and their two dogs left their home state of Hawaii on a voyage to Tahiti back on May 3rd. After being stranded for what they say was months, the women were spotted last week by a Taiwanese fishing vessel roughly 900 miles southeast of Japan and the Navy’s USS Ashland ship was deployed to save them. The women were incredibly grateful for being picked up and the US Navy confirmed that their boat wasn’t fit to sail, but other questions started to arise, such as why they didn’t use an emergency beacon to call for help. The Associated Press looked into it, and confirmed that the two had an Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beacon (EPIRB) aboard but never turned it on. According to the women, they felt that they weren’t in any immediate danger that would necessitate sending out an emergency signal. “We asked why during this course of time did they not activate the EPIRB. She had stated they never felt like they were truly in distress, like in a 24-hour period they were going to die,” US Coast Guard spokesperson Tara Molle told the Associated Press. Another claim made by the women was that they experienced a 3-day storm that reached winds in excess of 60 miles per hour. But the National Weather Service in Honolulu says that no such storm occurred and NASA weather images don’t show anything like that. Such a storm would be incredibly rare in that part of the world in May. And then there’s the claim of vicious sharks in the area, which Appel said were teaching their young to hunt. “They came by to slap their tails and tell us we needed to move along,” Appel said on a phone call with reporters immediately after they were rescued. “They decided to use our vessel to teach their children how to hunt. They attacked at night.” But experts don’t believe it. “It sounds like something a 4-year-old would tell you,” George Burgess, a shark expert at the Florida Museum of Natural History told the New York Times. “No. No, no and no and no. There’s not an iota of accuracy relative to our knowledge of the shark in any of that.” “The only one that fits that pattern was the star of the movie Jaws,” he said. One thing that keeps coming up that would chalk up some of these inconsistencies to ignorance rather than malice or a possible hoax is just how green the women were. Fuiava had never sailed before and Appel copped to her own relative inexperience in difficult sailing conditions in a video made after they were rescued. When you watch the video of the women aboard the USS Ashland they seem both sincere and relieved that they were saved. But people who doubt their story will certainly raise their eyebrows about one comment made by Appel. “I was joking with someone about ten years ago, and they said ‘What happens when you go out to sea and you get broken?’ and I said, ‘Well, the Navy will come and save me.’ No lie,” Appel said. “It really happened.” [New York Times]
Something seemed fishy to me about this story. Especially when I look at a roller-furling jib (I wish my boats had one of those) that seems intact, a mainsail that also seems intact and a mast with all the standing rigging looking like there's nothing wrong with it, either. They didn't mention it, but maybe their rudder went kaput? Even that is not difficult to jury rig and overcome. Further down in the comments, someone said their stories about the storms didn't jibe with the actual weather service reports and their engine was found to be working, they had an EPIRB (Emergency Position Indicating Beacon) that was in working condition but not turned on, and the "boat that was going to sink in 24 hours" was still floating months later when other sailors saw it during a long distance sail race. Things just don't seem to add up here.
I've sailed across the Pacific alone in a boat 1/2 that size. I honestly don't see how you can be stranded at sea that long with an intact boat. Just the current drift in the trade winds alone is at least a knot, that's 750 miles a month just drifting in the WORST case scenario. In five months that would take you anywhere you wanted as long as it was westbound and there are thousands of islands in the Pacific to head to that are well within that range. With their mast up they could easily rig a small jury rig and get 2-3 knots of speed out of that boat. Not sure what these clowns were doing, but they are absolutely lousy sailors.
They didnt say anything about the Rudder being damaged, but even if it was, it should still be possible to sail in roughly the right direction (weather permitting) under reduced sail with a bit of jury rigging. I'd love to know exactly what was wrong with the boat.... Doubt we'll ever find out tho.
@@garyarmstrong9530 Brilliant !! Many thanks for that, Gary 😁👍 Makes for interesting reading. It seems like there was a fair bit of Muppetry & and a bit of BS mixed together methinks. I'm surprised they didn't scuttle the yacht tho.
Not sure the specifics, but both sails and their riggings failed? jib looks ok to me... no jury rigging attempted...? I would like to learn more about what happened, just curious.
That was my first thought too!!! The mast is up, spreaders intact, fore and backstays are up, boom is up. I grew up on sailboats... 18 months on a 27ft Bayliner Buccaneer 270 while my folks built a 60ft Bruce Roberts staysail schooner, then another 5½ years on her. I cannot imagine how they were unable to get SOMETHING jury rigged to get them under way! Maybe they had all the food and water they needed... for which I commend them... but they were patently obviously unprepared in skillset. Sorry... no sympathy for these two. They had everything they needed to rescue themselves. Just looking at that boat... they had all they needed.
@@shaunolinger964 read more about it and found out it was a hoax, the engine still worked, the rigging was ok, and they had food for over a year including for the dogs... they did not drift all the way there, they sailed there.... etc etc etc
little nick they are lying. They never was stranded for real. They had a emergency beacon but did not use it because of not being in "imminent danger" They just want attention
Anyone who has spent any time on the water knows how bad you can get sun burnt very quickly. I’ve been burnt to the point of blisters in 1 day. Either they spent very little time on deck. They had a 55 gallon drum of sun screen or they weren’t out there for 147 days. Not to mention some of the other things noted.
And that 2 woman claimed the Taiwanese fishing boat try to sink their disable sailboat! OMG, if that is true, how easily would that be in highsea? give me a break
How does a sailboat floating that high above the water line only have 24 hours before sinking? Also I don't see any fouled rigging on that vessel. Everything looks intact and perfectly sailable.
I can not see the boat that is about to sink, I can see a boat that lays fine in the water in relation to its painted waterline and there is no mention of any collisions with floating debris or damage below the waterline on the boat and 147 days in a boat on dry food and water and they look like someone who sailed out yesterday 😮 🤔
@@mamallama7708 yes, I am, having worked as a union worker with the Seafarers Union back when compared to you never getting off the couch. Is there a union for that?
Sounds strange. They look pretty healthy for 5 months stranded. Skin looks smooth. Toned arms. They're nice and meaty still. Not even the dogs look underweight.
What a dumb hoax. Full set of sails on the rigging, obviously. No EPIRB? They were criminally negligent in their preparation. What sort of water maker runs without a functioning motor? Too many fallacies in this story to get into.....
Having been a professional Mariner all my life I find it very pathetic Rick is still standing and they have canvas but obviously they lacked the ability or the imagination to jerry-rig anything of any kind these people have no business at sea
They seem like the type of people to sit for 5 hours on the side of the road waiting for a tow truck because they have a flat tire, with the spare buried under a load of hiking gear...
this is why i would never go out on my boat without my husband. i dont know what to do except push the throttle & make the engine go up & down! never let women boat alone. lol
@@floridagirl9064 Women are just as CAPABLE, but not as expected to be self-sufficient and learn. LEARN! What if you and the husband and kids are out and something happens to him? You're the backup, know as much as possible.
For 147 days at sea, she looks pretty buff. Wouldn't she be skinny and malnourished a little? Google says that trip by sail is 10-20 days and she had enough food and water for 147?
Fist let me say I have been 15 years sailing Hawaii, both racing and pleasure.... - OK - Not to be too criticle..... BUT (mind you... Im experienced in sailing) ... they had a mast... and reminents of a sail..... and rope...... Im a sailor and it doesnt take that much surface area to move ahead toward land. You can use a a bed sheet if you must. Its going to be slow....BUT you will get there. You must have a little knoledge and understand how to use a compass and map if all else fails..... This sounds strange to me. Like no knoledge or desire to fix the problem and come up with a solution.
It's just shameful how many people minimize or deny their struggle..knowing damn well its only because it was 2 women that such a level of doubt and scorn very atypical of shipwreck survivors I can tell you as a Skipper of an even smaller sailboat set up set up long distance open ocean cruising that boat looks like it's been out as long as they say it has.... My current sailboat doesn't even have an inboard, only an outboard for when at the marina. If your rigging gets damaged or you get caught in the doldrums your just stuck at the mercy.of the wind and currents. These women should be commended for having the foresight to be that prepared! Sure they may have made some poor decisions but they survived because they made some good ones first Always have at least 3x what you think you need or what you have planned for IMO is a good strategy So glad they didn't have to make hard choices on what to eat because they brought lots of food...
Bro, they have EPIRB that is onboard and working that they could activate but decide not to because they feel like they are not in any danger! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_of_Sea_Nymph
They look really healthy dogs look well feed some how they didn't not get tipped in any storm and I am sure they had to experience more than one in that amount of time with no way to steer or counter rough waves probably another story
Another ridiculous feel good story, the standing rigging still standing, there are ropes on board , make up something and sail, nothing but a story of incompetence.
I'm always amazed at how insanely huge the Pacific Ocean is. I've read a couple books about people who have also been stranded for months at sea. These women fortunately had planned properly by having a survival supply of food and water. Smart. Glad they are ok
I have a Readers Digest Atlas, from the 1950's, a wonderful book. Obviously produced before NASA's now famous image of the Earth and any space flight ever taken. In it there are numerous plates presenting different views of the World. One plate is called "Water World" and, bar slithers of land around the edge of the Pacific, at a point of view, approaching the Earth from above the Pacific, you would see a blue planet, with very little land. To me that puts the size of the Pacific in place.
Plan? Smart? If you are a smart skipper you have several Satellite Emergency Notification Devices on board. One in the life raft and one for every live jacket. If you plan ahead, you would have a battery short wave radio on board. You also could transmit your GPS position persistently to someone on shore, how would notice that you stop transmitting or your boat is drifting around. If your are a smart skipper you would have spare parts and you are able to fix broken things, especially if your electric power supply is still running. On sailboats things break and you have to plan for it. And if the electric power supply or there water maker had a defect .... . And by the way I assume they had so much food because food is quite expensive in Tahiti, not because they planed for an emergency. And taking two huge dogs with you on to a 40 foot sailboat for a several week long sailing trip isn't smart it's irresponsible.
This looks like a case of "lets motor the sailboat we don't know how to sail" and ran out of fuel. Boat was riding high so I doubt it was taking on water for that long, or on the verge of sinking. Mast looked intact with sails furled and mains covered.
Their yacht looks perfectly seaworthy. And buoyant. Why should it sink? The standing rigging appears to be sound, too. I couldn’t discern what was wrapped around the boom. Most yachts (mine does) have spare canvas kicking about in their sail lockers. Paradoxically, most women yachtsmen are extremely competent. Q? WTF happened…???
I am sorry but I am old salt. If you don't know what you are doing don't sail big trips. Their rigging isn't that bad where they couldn't rig a small sail. Also if you don't carry spares for the engine and know how to work on it then get educated. I had a broken mast and a seized propeller shaft. I rigged a sea anchor and a small sail and eventually got to land beached the boat fixed the propeller shaft and then cut the mast down shortened the rigging and continued on my trip. Again if you don't know what you are doing don't do it. Do short trips, talk to people and learn from them, read and for Gods sake take satellite emergency transponder. GET EDUCATED!
Weak sauce... how on earth are these individuals called sailors? These children should never have left shore... I am not sympathetic... Cast these underprepared sailors back to sea...
I don't understand. It is a sailboat. The mast is still up. Jury rig something and sail it. I have taken a broken mast,, stood the half up that would still work, lashed it into place and set a sail on it. I am glad their water maker still functioned.
The Boat has sails and an intact mast how were they stranded? And as high in the water that Boat was it was not within 24 hours of sinking, someone is hiding something with that story
@R D there was no need to try harder. The question was answered by my "sophomoric" comment. The original question was asked by someone who aparently knows something about boats/sailing. I seemed that they missed part of the story explaining why the women could not use the sails. My reply relayed the information that answered the question. If you were not aware, rigging is the ropes and other equipment used to raise and control the sails. The mast is the big ploe sticking up from the boat.
*People are saying they faked the story but the rust and grim on the side of the boat shows that boat was stationary for a very long time. As for the water purifier they must have had a large amount because salt water would break them down very quickly.*
If it was 2 guy’s instead, they had made a emergency sail! Oh... forgot, and also made beer, cold beer, and hamburger, and a VHF radio, and a rocket engine........
Glad this story ain’t go over everyone’s head and we’re able to see either a lot of information was missed by the reporter or the whole story was just bs
Setting sail across the ocean with zero idea of how to repair anything. Stupid! The mast was upright, the boom had a sail on it. Plus there are provisions for more that just the one sail. Real sailors have done better with less. They didn't elaborate on which part of the rigging failed, but a competent sailor would have a backup plan. Also water swamped their motor? That is inside the hull! How did that much water get inside? The report stated that they were only a day or so away from sinking. The boat looked to me like it was floating on its normal waterline. Last but not least, no EPRIB or other locator beacon. In this day and age there is no reason not to. Honestly, the Lord must still have a plan for one or both of these women as they didn't deserve to survive. More competent sailors have not. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad the dogs made it.
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i saw this on the local news, even the sailors who rescued them said it was suspicious, the head sail had never been unfurled, the one woman would not let the other talk alone to the media.
This makes me wonder if it wasn't kidnapping with one of the women in a relationship taken against her will with a sociopath.
@@nancyoffenhiser4916 Bad judgment was at play, at the very least. Apparently they knew each other for only a week before deciding to set off on an ocean voyage together.
@@Prismatic_Truth OMG who does this?!
You can tell the boat wasn’t sinking by the algae growing along the waterline. The mast seemed fine. At least fine enough to hold the sail up to display and S.O.S. message.
@@Kahsimiah Lesbians. Lesbians do this. The most popular vehicle for lesbians to drive on first dates are U-Haul trucks.
I'm sorry, as a yachtsman with 36 years of experience both sea and inland I find this story extremely supicious. Boat sits high. Mast is upright. Rigging is there. They have at least 2 sails still on the boat with enough lines on them to jerryrig a smaller sail just to get 2-3k of speed. If the ruddere was damaged, you can jerry rig one too with what you have on board. You won't be able to tack or go through hard weather, but that's better then being adrift. Radios failed? They should have at least an emergency raft with EPIRB. They didn't take spare radios, but had food and water for 147 days for two adult humans and dogs? Either there is a lot of information missing or badly conveyed by the report or the two ladies are completly cluless or... this was a stunt.
Yip, a stunt
absolutely AGREE 100%
Agreed. When she said the boat had 24 more hours till it sunk...ok...why do you have to make it so desperate when the boat looks fine.
First, this is CBS so it could be fake. 2nd: they are women. You know: "hear me roar" which means I want equal pay even though I cannot do equal work so yes, I CAN believe they are clueless in this endeavor.
Yep that was sitting high in the water I call BS they didn’t even eat one of the dogs
I DON'T BELIEVE A SINGLE WORD REGARDING THIS STORY
I don't see no salt sores no sun burn didn look 147 days at sea at all to me.
Me neither. I don't believe ANYTHING!
@@dylanrice7075
How do you know they dont have salt sores did you look in there mouth?
Also the reason they wetent sunburnt was bc there inside a cabin…
I’ve been a professional mariner for almost 30 years and grew up sailing long before that. I have lots of questions. From what I can tell just watching the video these women had no business at sea.
What do you mean, they must be part fish to have survived this
@@andreasvedeler80 Oh yea, could you smell it from Hawaii?
I'm having a hard time understanding how the boat floated 147 days, but for some reason it would have sank in another 24 hours.
Because it's all lies and one big publicity stunt.
because they want a movie to be made.
That sounds better for the Netflix series
@@kingorbit Or write a book about the horrors they faced and sell it to millions of people. It would be a good publicity stunt.
Is this stupidity real? If so should be illegal
They women and dogs seemed extremely healthy after running out of food and water and being adrift for 147 days.
According to their own story they had packed food enough for a year, for a one-week trip. They also had a desalinator to turn seawater potable. No explanation of what that piece of equipment was running on.
You would think in 147 days you'd lose some weight, she looked chunky, no way this is true.
It would really be interesting to find out what REALLY happened?
1.) The author and Slow Boat Sailing has verified that the boat was 37-feet long according to US Coast Guard records. That is 13 feet shorter than they asserted. The boat was built in 1979 and was a Starratt & Jenks fiberglass yacht. The Sea Nymph was registered to Jennifer Appel of Haleiwa, Hawaii. It has 36.8-foot length, a 10.8 foot beam, and displaces 18 gross tons.
2.) Ms. Appel and Ms. Fuiva claimed that they could not hail anyone by way of VHF radio for three months. The author and Slow Boat Sailing has verified that they had an EPIRB device registered with the FCC An EPIRB will notify rescuers of the vessel’s distress wherever it is in the world. The EPIRB was registered under the name of the vessel’s previous owner.
3.) Ms. Appel claimed they hit a force 11 storm, which would pack winds of 64-72 miles per hour, off Hilo, Hawaii within a day of their May 3, 2017, departure from Honolulu. Slow Boat Sailing looked at wind speed in Maui about the time of the storm and could find no such winds. Moreover, Slow Boat Sailing looked at NOAA’s records of storms in the Central North Pacific Region and found no records of storms, systems with winds of over 55 miles per hour near Hawaii or in that North Pacific region until July 2017. That contradicts the assertion of a 3-day storm soon after May 3, 2017, made by Ms. Appel.
4.) Ms. Appel said their boat was attacked by tiger sharks as big as 50-feet long. Tiger sharks don’t grow longer than 18-feet long. Many species of sharks are endangered. Many sailboat cruisers enjoy diving with sharks and shark attacks are extremely rare. Slow Boat Sailing filmed sharks in Fakarava, Tuamotus while swimming with them.
5.) Nobody went to retrieve the boat months after the incident, and was spotted floating by Volvo ocean racers. They even remarked it could have been brought back so the whole “it was going to sink in 24 hours” was a lie.
@@GardeninGrace That boat is what's called 'an origami boat' as you can CLEARLY see the sides rusting away (because it's steel). It is not fiberglass. Also, those are a couple of dumb dames.
A couple of nitwits set sail across the world's largest ocean in a decrepit boat and with insufficient knowledge, preparation and skill. That's what really happened.
@@beachplumb and in the exact WRONG direction
@Charles McKinley Such as?
I have been in the Marine industry all my life , my father was a Navy lifer and an Instructor at the Annapolis Naval Academy . At age 12 we were working on civilian boats together. When I first expressed my desire to have my own sailboat , he turned and said " If you cannot repair every part of your boat at sea, you don't belong at sea " he was correct. My wife and I cruised a 40 foot sailboat for four years after our youngest daughter graduated college. Even with all the knowledge I had gained in the industry, it was almost a full time job maintaining and repairing all the different systems on the boat . Those lady's should have been able to rig some sail to overcome current and wind to navigate to shore, the mast, boom and the for-stay were up . Something is not quite right here.
We had a 15 year old girl who sailed across the world alone, there is a documentary about it, her name is Laura Dekker. Her father was taken to court because he let her go alone, in the end she went around the world without problems and all charges against her father were dropped. If a 15 year old can do that surely these people on the boat should be able to make some sort of make shift sail. Also strange they had food on board for a year. They made the news on tv some people do anything to get on the news like many TH-camrs try to.
they were women. sounds about right to me.
@@counterprogressive5800 So is Laura Dekker.
Oh, it's fun to blame the victims.
"I told you so." is always rude.
My sailing instructor said the same dang thing. “If you don’t know how to fix it? Don’t buy it because you will inevitability have something break in the middle of nowhere”
I think there is a whole lot more to this story, this stinks to high heaven!
Doesn't add up. This story feels like when you meet someone on the side of the road with a flat tire who're waiting on tow truck that will cost big money and 2 hours to get there and when you ask them, they have a spare, a floor jack and a 4-Way tire iron in the trunk and absolutely no mental capacity to even consider let alone attempt to replace it.
I've never known a sail boat of that size to not have spare sails, lines and pretty much everything short of a spare engine. Something doesn't add up.
Mental note, avoid cbs mornings videos.
To be honest my car has none of those, so if I get a flat I am f**ked. Thats just how it is
@@chris.kaiser What you don't keep a years worth of food on all your boats at all times? I keep 6 months in my car trunk just incase I get lost on the highway.
@@chris.kaiser Plus food for the dogs. Probably half a million calories at least. Who does that?
I keep a months worth of food in my backpack incase I get lost on the woods
Nothing about this adds up.
The rig looks completely intact. The main absolutely did not sit there for 100 days not even properly secured. The jib is still perfectly furled.
This boat is not stranded or sinking.
Yes
Glad I’m not the only one that noticed that
Their standing rigging looks fine but they should be able to repair if there were a problem.
And also the boat would sink in 24 more hours?
The hull is all green like it’s been sat aground on its side for months
Article from the New York Times about this:
The story of two women who were stranded at sea for 5 months in shark-infested waters seemed almost too cinematic to be true. And now some experts are questioning the veracity of some of their claims.
Jennifer Appel, Tasha Fuiava, and their two dogs left their home state of Hawaii on a voyage to Tahiti back on May 3rd. After being stranded for what they say was months, the women were spotted last week by a Taiwanese fishing vessel roughly 900 miles southeast of Japan and the Navy’s USS Ashland ship was deployed to save them.
The women were incredibly grateful for being picked up and the US Navy confirmed that their boat wasn’t fit to sail, but other questions started to arise, such as why they didn’t use an emergency beacon to call for help.
The Associated Press looked into it, and confirmed that the two had an Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beacon (EPIRB) aboard but never turned it on. According to the women, they felt that they weren’t in any immediate danger that would necessitate sending out an emergency signal.
“We asked why during this course of time did they not activate the EPIRB. She had stated they never felt like they were truly in distress, like in a 24-hour period they were going to die,” US Coast Guard spokesperson Tara Molle told the Associated Press.
Another claim made by the women was that they experienced a 3-day storm that reached winds in excess of 60 miles per hour. But the National Weather Service in Honolulu says that no such storm occurred and NASA weather images don’t show anything like that. Such a storm would be incredibly rare in that part of the world in May.
And then there’s the claim of vicious sharks in the area, which Appel said were teaching their young to hunt.
“They came by to slap their tails and tell us we needed to move along,” Appel said on a phone call with reporters immediately after they were rescued. “They decided to use our vessel to teach their children how to hunt. They attacked at night.”
But experts don’t believe it.
“It sounds like something a 4-year-old would tell you,” George Burgess, a shark expert at the Florida Museum of Natural History told the New York Times. “No. No, no and no and no. There’s not an iota of accuracy relative to our knowledge of the shark in any of that.”
“The only one that fits that pattern was the star of the movie Jaws,” he said.
One thing that keeps coming up that would chalk up some of these inconsistencies to ignorance rather than malice or a possible hoax is just how green the women were. Fuiava had never sailed before and Appel copped to her own relative inexperience in difficult sailing conditions in a video made after they were rescued.
When you watch the video of the women aboard the USS Ashland they seem both sincere and relieved that they were saved. But people who doubt their story will certainly raise their eyebrows about one comment made by Appel.
“I was joking with someone about ten years ago, and they said ‘What happens when you go out to sea and you get broken?’ and I said, ‘Well, the Navy will come and save me.’ No lie,” Appel said. “It really happened.”
[New York Times]
Something seemed fishy to me about this story. Especially when I look at a roller-furling jib (I wish my boats had one of those) that seems intact, a mainsail that also seems intact and a mast with all the standing rigging looking like there's nothing wrong with it, either. They didn't mention it, but maybe their rudder went kaput? Even that is not difficult to jury rig and overcome. Further down in the comments, someone said their stories about the storms didn't jibe with the actual weather service reports and their engine was found to be working, they had an EPIRB (Emergency Position Indicating Beacon) that was in working condition but not turned on, and the "boat that was going to sink in 24 hours" was still floating months later when other sailors saw it during a long distance sail race. Things just don't seem to add up here.
Yeah they’re clearly lying. Who stores enough diesel and food to last for that long, something doesn’t add up
Yeah looked like there was alot of options. To get underway.
Sounds like a plan for a book/movie deal
Fishy af, you can fix averything on that sailboat....big bite for two women, even that is not accurate....so many options was still on, like u said
What do you expect from a couple of women trying to be men.
Thank goodness they had an unlimited supply of clam to eat on board.
😂😂😂
I've sailed across the Pacific alone in a boat 1/2 that size. I honestly don't see how you can be stranded at sea that long with an intact boat. Just the current drift in the trade winds alone is at least a knot, that's 750 miles a month just drifting in the WORST case scenario. In five months that would take you anywhere you wanted as long as it was westbound and there are thousands of islands in the Pacific to head to that are well within that range. With their mast up they could easily rig a small jury rig and get 2-3 knots of speed out of that boat. Not sure what these clowns were doing, but they are absolutely lousy sailors.
Sounds like they forgot their EPIRB too. There are navy ships in the area that would have received and responded to an EPIRB pull.
Yup
They didnt say anything about the Rudder being damaged, but even if it was, it should still be possible to sail in roughly the right direction (weather permitting) under reduced sail with a bit of jury rigging.
I'd love to know exactly what was wrong with the boat.... Doubt we'll ever find out tho.
@@HimoftheBoat1967 check this out. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_of_Sea_Nymph
@@garyarmstrong9530 Brilliant !! Many thanks for that, Gary 😁👍
Makes for interesting reading. It seems like there was a fair bit of Muppetry & and a bit of BS mixed together methinks.
I'm surprised they didn't scuttle the yacht tho.
The best day of these 2 women's lives. Was the worst day of 2 hopeful guys.
I had to reread your comment before realizing where you were going with this....then I had a good laugh! Good point my man, well said......🤣🤣🤣
The dog's like 'these ladies are clueless! Please save us'
Pretty sure they would have ate those dogs next.
You should be able to rig something up to get some kind of motion going with all the stuff on the boat to use.
RAN OUT OF PEANUT BUTTER WEEKS AGO, AND THE DOGS DON'T LICK STINKY CLAMS
@@harryballsacky LOL WTFFFF
@@harryballsacky I was looking for this lmao
"Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale
A tale of a fateful trip.....
That long at sea yet look fresh and clean. Something suspicious going on here.
whatever will we do without the intelligent quirky comments of these reporters?
Not sure the specifics, but both sails and their riggings failed? jib looks ok to me... no jury rigging attempted...? I would like to learn more about what happened, just curious.
That was my first thought too!!! The mast is up, spreaders intact, fore and backstays are up, boom is up.
I grew up on sailboats... 18 months on a 27ft Bayliner Buccaneer 270 while my folks built a 60ft Bruce Roberts staysail schooner, then another 5½ years on her. I cannot imagine how they were unable to get SOMETHING jury rigged to get them under way! Maybe they had all the food and water they needed... for which I commend them... but they were patently obviously unprepared in skillset.
Sorry... no sympathy for these two. They had everything they needed to rescue themselves. Just looking at that boat... they had all they needed.
@@shaunolinger964 read more about it and found out it was a hoax, the engine still worked, the rigging was ok, and they had food for over a year including for the dogs... they did not drift all the way there, they sailed there.... etc etc etc
@@el_Contra correct.
No EPIRB is suspicious enough for me to think this is some stunt or Darwin award winning stupidity.
@@j.thomas7128 they had a working EPIRB
"I'd only go for a Three Hour Tour." - Pure Gold.
Boat looks fine to me and sitting high in the water. There’s more to this than meets the eye.
5 months jeez no satellite phones or emergency devices crazy they had enough supplies lucky to be alive
little nick they are lying. They never was stranded for real. They had a emergency beacon but did not use it because of not being in "imminent danger"
They just want attention
Some yah i saw it that after i wrote that
@@Some-wr7mi I'm wondering if they didn't use it because they would have been charged with a crime if it was found there was no "emergency" at all.
Luck? This was all by design.
"Thank goodness these two ladies brought a lot of food",said the dogs
Anyone who has spent any time on the water knows how bad you can get sun burnt very quickly. I’ve been burnt to the point of blisters in 1 day. Either they spent very little time on deck. They had a 55 gallon drum of sun screen or they weren’t out there for 147 days. Not to mention some of the other things noted.
Yeah this whole story is bogus
Biggest thanks to the Taiwanese fishermen who alerted the U.S. Navy
Why didn't the fishing boat just rescue the two women ?
I'm just so glad that they weren't found by Chinese fishermen as they would have never alerted anyone to help rescue them.
@@Coxman how many chinese people do you know?
And that 2 woman claimed the Taiwanese fishing boat try to sink their disable sailboat! OMG, if that is true, how easily would that be in highsea? give me a break
@@chrisnolan7423 They knew better
147 days lost at sea and they had less than 24 hours before their boat sank? IT’S A MIRACLE! 🙄
It's a LIE.
Survived 147 days on the boat but the moment they get rescued the boat only had 24 hrs left before it sank?
Aren't you supposed to have several means of communication when you do long range sailing
I'm so glad they didnt have to eat their pets. Or each other. But mainly the pets.
Oh, I'm sure they ate each other many times...
How does a sailboat floating that high above the water line only have 24 hours before sinking? Also I don't see any fouled rigging on that vessel. Everything looks intact and perfectly sailable.
Dude looks young, but he nailed that “3-hour tour” homage ;)
If not 4 tha courage of tha fearless crew... tha "minow" would bee lost.
Tha book deal/movie would bee lost
Those dogs are like “I thought everything was fine the entire time”
🤣🤣🤣 IKR
They still have a sail. It's right there on the boom. What kept them from getting any sail up? I'm baffled.
Didn't have a man on board to do it.
@@Ziggy_Moonglow😅😂😊
Women and Dogs look very healthy for being at sea for 147 days.
I can not see the boat that is about to sink, I can see a boat that lays fine in the water in relation to its painted waterline and there is no mention of any collisions with floating debris or damage below the waterline on the boat and 147 days in a boat on dry food and water and they look like someone who sailed out yesterday 😮 🤔
I think you need to listen to the damage that occured again.....
Oooooh the TH-cam expert 😂
@@mamallama7708 yes, I am, having worked as a union worker with the Seafarers Union back when compared to you never getting off the couch. Is there a union for that?
Sounds strange. They look pretty healthy for 5 months stranded. Skin looks smooth. Toned arms. They're nice and meaty still. Not even the dogs look underweight.
There boat looks in great shape. I think they wanted to get publicity.
A year supply of food?? How did they pack so much? That’s actually extremely good that they did?
What a dumb hoax. Full set of sails on the rigging, obviously. No EPIRB? They were criminally negligent in their preparation. What sort of water maker runs without a functioning motor? Too many fallacies in this story to get into.....
clothes are clean, nobody looks thirsty, no distress signal on the mast.
Having been a professional Mariner all my life I find it very pathetic Rick is still standing and they have canvas but obviously they lacked the ability or the imagination to jerry-rig anything of any kind these people have no business at sea
Agreed.
They seem like the type of people to sit for 5 hours on the side of the road waiting for a tow truck because they have a flat tire, with the spare buried under a load of hiking gear...
this is why i would never go out on my boat without my husband. i dont know what to do except push the throttle & make the engine go up & down! never let women boat alone. lol
@@floridagirl9064 Women are just as CAPABLE, but not as expected to be self-sufficient and learn. LEARN! What if you and the husband and kids are out and something happens to him? You're the backup, know as much as possible.
Let me change the title of the story so it makes more sense. “Incompetent sailors in over their heads on a passage get rescued”
So they didn’t tell anyone that they were going out to sea for real
Right!
Even the dogs are happy! So happy these women and their fur babies are found safe! 🙏🏼💖
fur babies? are you 9 years old?
@@funkytransport yes
They look great for being at sea for 5 months, so glad they are safe.
They had food and water.
they started out with 4 dogs
@@fairyphotography Thanks for the laugh 🤣😂
@Mike Hawk 🤪👍👍
@@fairyphotography hahahahha
Always good to keep a SAT phone on you when out to sea!
Those dogs are lucky they had a year’s supply of food.
The dogs were the emergency rations!
The dogs had already made a pact to eat the sailors if they ran out of dog food.
wtf would they bring 1 yr supply of food?! Sounds like they didn't do anything right.
For 147 days at sea, she looks pretty buff. Wouldn't she be skinny and malnourished a little? Google says that trip by sail is 10-20 days and she had enough food and water for 147?
The problem is there’s no man on board
but wait...who said "a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle"?
So glad their ok
Fist let me say I have been 15 years sailing Hawaii, both racing and pleasure.... - OK - Not to be too criticle..... BUT (mind you... Im experienced in sailing) ... they had a mast... and reminents of a sail..... and rope...... Im a sailor and it doesnt take that much surface area to move ahead toward land. You can use a a bed sheet if you must. Its going to be slow....BUT you will get there. You must have a little knoledge and understand how to use a compass and map if all else fails..... This sounds strange to me. Like no knoledge or desire to fix the problem and come up with a solution.
Rope 🤣
It makes sense when you acknowledge the fact that theres no man on board
Zeus: get me away from these fools 💀
These two had NO BUSINESS being out there...Captain Cluelesses!!
Bless the Countries that can help , and the U.S. Navy ..
Blessing is cancer.
It's just shameful how many people minimize or deny their struggle..knowing damn well its only because it was 2 women that such a level of doubt and scorn very atypical of shipwreck survivors
I can tell you as a Skipper of an even smaller sailboat set up set up long distance open ocean cruising that boat looks like it's been out as long as they say it has....
My current sailboat doesn't even have an inboard, only an outboard for when at the marina. If your rigging gets damaged or you get caught in the doldrums your just stuck at the mercy.of the wind and currents.
These women should be commended for having the foresight to be that prepared! Sure they may have made some poor decisions but they survived because they made some good ones first
Always have at least 3x what you think you need or what you have planned for IMO is a good strategy
So glad they didn't have to make hard choices on what to eat because they brought lots of food...
This story was proven to be a hoax.
Bro, they have EPIRB that is onboard and working that they could activate but decide not to because they feel like they are not in any danger! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_of_Sea_Nymph
Bro, it's not about their gender. It's about how the details don't add up. It seems...fishy.
Now that you mention it these girls are pretty dumb and you’re there should’ve been some type of Jerry Rigging
There were MANY discrepancies & inconsistencies in their story. Being women has nothing to do with it.
Even the dogs were happy to get out of there
They look really healthy dogs look well feed some how they didn't not get tipped in any storm and I am sure they had to experience more than one in that amount of time with no way to steer or counter rough waves probably another story
Dogs look well fed. Wonder why/how they took so much food?
It was all flaked, they got a lot of crap over it... None of it made sense to the rescuers
A couple of really lucky dudes
No one knew they were gone
Great story
I’m so happy the dogs survived
Dogs sure look healthy....
A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor.
I wish the coastguard would bring me too this abandoned yacht, it looks great.
THE ONLY PART OF THIS I BELIEVE:
THE COMMENTS.
You go ahead, I'll wait here.
Another ridiculous feel good story, the standing rigging still standing, there are ropes on board , make up something and sail, nothing but a story of incompetence.
Seriously
Being Prepared Saved Them
I'm always amazed at how insanely huge the Pacific Ocean is. I've read a couple books about people who have also been stranded for months at sea. These women fortunately had planned properly by having a survival supply of food and water. Smart. Glad they are ok
If they were smart they would have had a second radio and a distress beacon.
I have a Readers Digest Atlas, from the 1950's, a wonderful book. Obviously produced before NASA's now famous image of the Earth and any space flight ever taken. In it there are numerous plates presenting different views of the World. One plate is called "Water World" and, bar slithers of land around the edge of the Pacific, at a point of view, approaching the Earth from above the Pacific, you would see a blue planet, with very little land. To me that puts the size of the Pacific in place.
if they were smart they would have done some maintenance on the boat before they left.
If they were smart they would have brought a man along
Plan? Smart? If you are a smart skipper you have several Satellite Emergency Notification Devices on board. One in the life raft and one for every live jacket.
If you plan ahead, you would have a battery short wave radio on board. You also could transmit your GPS position persistently to someone on shore, how would notice that you stop transmitting or your boat is drifting around.
If your are a smart skipper you would have spare parts and you are able to fix broken things, especially if your electric power supply is still running. On sailboats things break and you have to plan for it. And if the electric power supply or there water maker had a defect .... .
And by the way I assume they had so much food because food is quite expensive in Tahiti, not because they planed for an emergency.
And taking two huge dogs with you on to a 40 foot sailboat for a several week long sailing trip isn't smart it's irresponsible.
We rescue everyone!
FIVE MONTHS? A year supply of dry food saved them. That women still had muscle tone.
thats what we are ALL looking at. her muscle tone. yup.
All mariners MUST wear a watch with internet distress call via satellite!!!
Nice Gilligan’s Island reference!!!
that boat looked to be in tough shape 😬😬😬
And the other hosts missed his witty point.
They were stranded?
What was that big pole with the sheet attached that I saw?
At least they had plenty of dog left.
Did this turn out to be a scam?
Yes.
Holy crap that would be insane.
This looks like a case of "lets motor the sailboat we don't know how to sail" and ran out of fuel. Boat was riding high so I doubt it was taking on water for that long, or on the verge of sinking. Mast looked intact with sails furled and mains covered.
apparently it was spotted still floating months later by a sailboat racing team
“Friends?” Sure.
I want to hear more of the fishing boat that actually found them.
Wait what ! Although I am not a boat expert , but I can clearly see the boat looks fine and floating well , how it had only 24hrs left ?
Their yacht looks perfectly seaworthy. And buoyant. Why should it sink? The standing rigging appears to be sound, too. I couldn’t discern what was wrapped around the boom. Most yachts (mine does) have spare canvas kicking about in their sail lockers. Paradoxically, most women yachtsmen are extremely competent. Q? WTF happened…???
I think it was intentional
They junked a good boat.
Yup I remember when this story came out and as an experienced off shore sailor red-flags were going off left and right...just didn't add up.
Can people really be that incompetent ?
It is baffling how they couldn't sort something out...🤔
Poor dogs who have to live with these women.
I am sorry but I am old salt. If you don't know what you are doing don't sail big trips. Their rigging isn't that bad where they couldn't rig a small sail. Also if you don't carry spares for the engine and know how to work on it then get educated. I had a broken mast and a seized propeller shaft. I rigged a sea anchor and a small sail and eventually got to land beached the boat fixed the propeller shaft and then cut the mast down shortened the rigging and continued on my trip. Again if you don't know what you are doing don't do it. Do short trips, talk to people and learn from them, read and for Gods sake take satellite emergency transponder. GET EDUCATED!
Jennifer Appel was a local motorcycle roadracer here in Georgia back in the 90s...she was good at it .
Wow! 5 months in the ocean! That is amazing. Happy you & your pets were rescued. 👍👍👍
Bet the first they did was go out to eat at a nice restaurant? Maybe RED LOBSTER 🦞🦞? 😂
Pets? Only one dog, Zeus, made it.
@@seccat I saw 2 dogs on the boat!!!
How did they store 5 months worth of food for them and the dogs on this size boat ? Dogs look well fed ..
Story is kinda strange…
Glad they are alive and well
Everyone looks well fed on this boat. Dogs look a little over weight. I call BS on this entire story.
Weak sauce... how on earth are these individuals called sailors?
These children should never have left shore... I am not sympathetic...
Cast these underprepared sailors back to sea...
I don't understand. It is a sailboat. The mast is still up. Jury rig something and sail it. I have taken a broken mast,, stood the half up that would still work, lashed it into place and set a sail on it. I am glad their water maker still functioned.
The Boat has sails and an intact mast how were they stranded? And as high in the water that Boat was it was not within 24 hours of sinking, someone is hiding something with that story
They said the rigging malfunctioned or broke, I can't remember, but probably got a rope stuck in a pully or something....🤷♂️
@@Bendigo1 👍
@R D there was no need to try harder. The question was answered by my "sophomoric" comment.
The original question was asked by someone who aparently knows something about boats/sailing. I seemed that they missed part of the story explaining why the women could not use the sails. My reply relayed the information that answered the question.
If you were not aware, rigging is the ropes and other equipment used to raise and control the sails. The mast is the big ploe sticking up from the boat.
*People are saying they faked the story but the rust and grim on the side of the boat shows that boat was stationary for a very long time. As for the water purifier they must have had a large amount because salt water would break them down very quickly.*
If it was 2 guy’s instead, they had made a emergency sail!
Oh... forgot, and also made beer, cold beer, and hamburger, and a VHF radio, and a rocket engine........
Glad this story ain’t go over everyone’s head and we’re able to see either a lot of information was missed by the reporter or the whole story was just bs
The poor dogs…
Exactly! These two can continue their stupid stunts, but the dogs should not partake.
Lol that's what I thought too
Surprised they weren’t forced to eat them
Setting sail across the ocean with zero idea of how to repair anything. Stupid! The mast was upright, the boom had a sail on it. Plus there are provisions for more that just the one sail. Real sailors have done better with less. They didn't elaborate on which part of the rigging failed, but a competent sailor would have a backup plan. Also water swamped their motor? That is inside the hull! How did that much water get inside? The report stated that they were only a day or so away from sinking. The boat looked to me like it was floating on its normal waterline. Last but not least, no EPRIB or other locator beacon. In this day and age there is no reason not to.
Honestly, the Lord must still have a plan for one or both of these women as they didn't deserve to survive. More competent sailors have not. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad the dogs made it.