My friend and me here in the UK have just done the rear brake pads and changed the brake pipes, also changed the gaiter on the De dion Tube - not the simplest of jobs, this car had stood for 15 years ! 1972 model v8
Seeing the rear brake bleed nipple is brining back nightmares of working on my family's P6 40 years ago. It's interesting how Rover and Jag independently managed to make rear brake maintenance an absolute pain. Looking forward to seeing yours run on the road, it's amazingly clean underneath looking like it has never seen any winter salt.
Having worked in a Jaguar Restoration shop we ALWAYS used a flushing additive yes it dislodges crap but it also breaks it down (that's its purpose) and it's removed when the old oil is drained, I have done it in EVERY car I have owned and EVERY customer car without any problems.
What a lovely old P6 with that fab V-8. Happy for your progress and enthusiasm in bringing her back to life-she is in good hands. Looking forward to future videos-thank you.
Another technique for limiting loss of brake fluid whilst working is to put some cling film under the brake reservoir cap then screw it back on to get a better vacuum seal .
That brings back memories of laying on my parents drive replacing rear brake pads and freeing off the sliding pins. Fiddly job. I also remember trying to replace the front lower ball joint. It fits into the bottom of the upright and was absolutely solid. It took much heating and a large press to finally release it.
When changing the rubber brake lines, I would not be too concerned about losing the fluid in the system because one wants to flush the brake system's old fluid out as completely as possible.
If I have an engine that I think has grunge, when I am ready to service it, I will add some Marvel Mystery Oil and change the filter with a cheap one and run it easy but warm for about 40 miles, then do the first oil change with a diesel oil like Shell Rotella T because they have lots of detergent (lots of zinc to keep old engines happy). Then a couple thousand miles later if its looking better inside the oil cover, I'll switch to the preferred brand for that engine. I might do another bottle of marvel a day or two (50-100miles) before if it was really dirty. "Snake Oils" and chemicals for cleaning CAN work, but usually require heat and time to really be effective. The only downside is that if the engine has really old gaskets, it can start leaking as it cleans the clogged pours of the gasket. My advice is free and you get what you pay for. 😁
Thanks for this video on brakes. My P6 feels like the boosters don't work but I think I know why now after seeing your engine bay. There is a missing vacuum hose from the main booster to th esmaller one missing....
I was amazed to see those brake pipe fittings and bleed nipples come undone, such things often break or round off. When renewing the hoses it is often necessary to cut the old ones off so you can get a socket onto the fitting.
The rear caliper is the Girling S1H caliper. I built and tested these at their factory on the Wirral for eighteen months from 1966. They had a poor reputation when it come to working on them and when fitted to the car. I doubt if there are many spares available now though, I did see one at the Classic Car show at the NEC in 2022. You have a very nice example there, but the wings do tend to rot; pity it’s not a manual though.
i have one doubt, i also have a 71 xj6 4,2 and change the oil every 2 years, i have been use the motul 400 mineral 20w50 is it fine for my engine i also change the filter everytime, the engine is very god condiction and doesnt dark the oil.
It should be fine but it depends how much you drive. Make sure the oil has zink in it. That’s the most important part. I change my oil at least once a year and more often if the car gets used more.
Seems like your videos got out of sequence a little. Nonetheless, I love your TH-cam channel and the Jag, and now Rover, stories of resurrection/repair/rebuilding. I never owned a Rover, but I did have a 1980 Triumph TR8 which used the Rover V8 - it was a fun sportscar with lots of torque.
They are in chronological order at the moment actually. I do like to drop hints of future videos in some of them though. Like showing a car in the background that will be featured in the future. TR8s are very cool! Love their styling
Picky pedant alert, Adam... It's not actually an IRS... It's a de Dion tube, basically a dead axle with a diff and driveshafts bolted on. Better than a live axle because of lower unsprung mass, but has the live axle benefit of keeping the tyre upright and perpendicular to the road surface and maximising the contact patch. Apologies if teaching Granny to suck eggs....
@@LivingWithAClassic Sorry Adam, please don't think I'm dissing you, I have a massive fault of being a real perfectionist pedant. Love all your videos, you have exactly the same car tastes as I do.... Well, maybe except for my obsession for gas sprung Citroens...
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She's a beautiful example Adam, im glad Matt managed to see her when he was doing his Swedish road trip.
I love Rover P6, it's really full of character!
Glad you got it on the channel Adam!
I’m glad you like it! Could you send me an email? I have an idea I want to discuss with you 😊
@@LivingWithAClassic will do!
@@LivingWithAClassic slightly embarrassingly I can't find your email adress...
My friend and me here in the UK have just done the rear brake pads and changed the brake pipes, also changed the gaiter on the De dion Tube - not the simplest of jobs, this car had stood for 15 years ! 1972 model v8
This looks to be a great example. They are such lovely cars. Looking forward to seeing it bowling down the road.
Seeing the rear brake bleed nipple is brining back nightmares of working on my family's P6 40 years ago. It's interesting how Rover and Jag independently managed to make rear brake maintenance an absolute pain. Looking forward to seeing yours run on the road, it's amazingly clean underneath looking like it has never seen any winter salt.
A pleasure watching you work on this lovely P6, I hope you keep it, and drive it for a long time 👍🙂
I’m glad you like it! I think it will be staying a long time
Having worked in a Jaguar Restoration shop we ALWAYS used a flushing additive yes it dislodges crap but it also breaks it down (that's its purpose) and it's removed when the old oil is drained, I have done it in EVERY car I have owned and EVERY customer car without any problems.
What a lovely old P6 with that fab V-8. Happy for your progress and enthusiasm in bringing her back to life-she is in good hands. Looking forward to future videos-thank you.
I’m glad you like it!
I'm glad you know what you are doing, because, I haven't got a clue. I leave all this work to the mechanic.
What a beautiful and original survivor Adam! Greetings from a fellow collector in Belgium.
I’m glad you like it!
Awesome. Quite an advanced car for the era.
Yes they really are. Some of it still
Feels advanced today
Really like this Rover, brings back memories our family had one same colour right hand drive, very comfortable car.
Yes they do seems to be very comfortable. Can’t wait to drive mine
Nice work. Interesting braking system
I'm very interested in this series on the Rover P6 as my Grandad had one. You are fortunate to have found one in such good condition.
I’m glad you like it! Seems that many have had a relative that’s had a P6
This is a nice addition to your collection, and I look forward to seeing more of it :)
I’m glad you like it!
Another technique for limiting loss of brake fluid whilst working is to put some cling film under the brake reservoir cap then screw it back on to get a better vacuum seal .
Yes I usually use that technique but not sure how that would work with the twin masters on this car.
That brings back memories of laying on my parents drive replacing rear brake pads and freeing off the sliding pins. Fiddly job. I also remember trying to replace the front lower ball joint. It fits into the bottom of the upright and was absolutely solid. It took much heating and a large press to finally release it.
So many fiddly jobs that can either be straight forward or a real pain
Living with a British Classic, I would say! Thumb up!
It’s a great classic this one!
Good job, those inboard brakes are not easy.
When changing the rubber brake lines, I would not be too concerned about losing the fluid in the system because one wants to flush the brake system's old fluid out as completely as possible.
Well yes however I didn’t want the masters to get empty on this car. I wasn’t sure how hard it would be to bleed a system with two master cylinders
If I have an engine that I think has grunge, when I am ready to service it, I will add some Marvel Mystery Oil and change the filter with a cheap one and run it easy but warm for about 40 miles, then do the first oil change with a diesel oil like Shell Rotella T because they have lots of detergent (lots of zinc to keep old engines happy). Then a couple thousand miles later if its looking better inside the oil cover, I'll switch to the preferred brand for that engine. I might do another bottle of marvel a day or two (50-100miles) before if it was really dirty. "Snake Oils" and chemicals for cleaning CAN work, but usually require heat and time to really be effective. The only downside is that if the engine has really old gaskets, it can start leaking as it cleans the clogged pours of the gasket. My advice is free and you get what you pay for. 😁
I wish we had Marvel here. It’s a great product
Hi Adam . I also saw the M.G (?) The Rover is responding so well . I think it's looking forward to returning to the road as much as yourself !
It’s a Morris and it will be in the next video on the channel.
Thanks for the video.😊
I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for this video on brakes. My P6 feels like the boosters don't work but I think I know why now after seeing your engine bay. There is a missing vacuum hose from the main booster to th esmaller one missing....
Steady progress. The look at the IRS has started stirring thoughts of hot-rods. :-)*
I think the Jaguar one would be easier to fit to a hot rod. I’m looking forward to trying this one out when driving it
And in the background I see an ADO16 and an ADO17...I love this channel :)
Well spotted! More on the ADO16 next week. Already filmed the first episode with it
I was amazed to see those brake pipe fittings and bleed nipples come undone, such things often break or round off. When renewing the hoses it is often necessary to cut the old ones off so you can get a socket onto the fitting.
I usually need to heat them to get them off however I did let them soak in penetrating fluid for 2 days before trying. I think that helped a lot.
The rear caliper is the Girling S1H caliper. I built and tested these at their factory on the Wirral for eighteen months from 1966. They had a poor reputation when it come to working on them and when fitted to the car. I doubt if there are many spares available now though, I did see one at the Classic Car show at the NEC in 2022. You have a very nice example there, but the wings do tend to rot; pity it’s not a manual though.
Yes the rear brake calipers do have a reputation for being a pain on these. Cool story!
Your doing great mate well done!
Thank you! Coming from the P6 expert that means a lot 😊
When changing oil filter beware that you don't get a air lock in the oil pump
Yes that’s very important on these engines
Prime the oil filter
i have one doubt, i also have a 71 xj6 4,2 and change the oil every 2 years, i have been use the motul 400 mineral 20w50 is it fine for my engine i also change the filter everytime, the engine is very god condiction and doesnt dark the oil.
It should be fine but it depends how much you drive. Make sure the oil has zink in it. That’s the most important part.
I change my oil at least once a year and more often if the car gets used more.
Seems like your videos got out of sequence a little. Nonetheless, I love your TH-cam channel and the Jag, and now Rover, stories of resurrection/repair/rebuilding. I never owned a Rover, but I did have a 1980 Triumph TR8 which used the Rover V8 - it was a fun sportscar with lots of torque.
They are in chronological order at the moment actually. I do like to drop hints of future videos in some of them though. Like showing a car in the background that will
be featured in the future.
TR8s are very cool! Love their styling
Picky pedant alert, Adam... It's not actually an IRS... It's a de Dion tube, basically a dead axle with a diff and driveshafts bolted on.
Better than a live axle because of lower unsprung mass, but has the live axle benefit of keeping the tyre upright and perpendicular to the road surface and maximising the contact patch.
Apologies if teaching Granny to suck eggs....
Yes you’re right. It’s hard to always say the correct things when on camera.
@@LivingWithAClassic Sorry Adam, please don't think I'm dissing you, I have a massive fault of being a real perfectionist pedant.
Love all your videos, you have exactly the same car tastes as I do....
Well, maybe except for my obsession for gas sprung Citroens...