I’m using the Shell from the Layer version and use normal Mechanix as a base layer. This way I have the best of both worlds and can use this system for hard use and not worry about ripping the liner.
What you say starting at 6:30 really concerns me. As a photographer, a lot of the time I spend afield in the cold is spent breaking down branches and tearing out vegetation to clear shooting lanes, and also gathering branches and other vegetation up and making natural blinds in which to hide. The gloves I use for photography must endure a lot of use against abrasive and prickly materials. I simply can't pay such an enormous sum for something that will not withstand a lot of abrasive wear and tear. Photography isn't just holding a camera and carrying a tripod .... rather, outdoor photography is all about doing a lot of hard "landscaping" to get things the way you want for the photographs you plan to take.
I bought these gloves. Damn it's expensive! Most expensive piece of clothing I own. Not only that, but I had to pay extra duty because they were made outside of Canada. And then taxes and the ridiculous shipping fee on top of that. But I used them the first time yesterday in the cold and they felt like they were getting hot. Without any hand warmers.
Just get the mittens itself for 10 bugs less and combine them with any gloves you like - if you tear up your gloves then, it doesn't compromise the functionality of your mittens in any way, they'll last and last.
Yeah, something like -12 is way too warm to test proper winter clothing. You'll be warm in those temperatures with basic leather+slight insulation combo gloves. One really starts to appreciate proper gloves when it's below -25 (Centigrade), I bet that's where these gloves are meant for. If you don't need that much warmth, you can get by with a lot cheaper options. But proper, durable and warm gloves tend to have a price of at least 50 €. You're gonna pay that even for army surplus to get the proper layering, although you'll end up with bunch of layers and hence that's all you need all around the year. These Heat 3 gloves have so many functionalities which surely ramps up the price. The layer version might be valuable option, at least it seems well thought out, and when you buy new and not surplus, stuff is expensive. But 165 Dollars is way too much for a single pair of gloves, unless one lives in Antarctica.
Well it depends. Like he said those gloves were designed with military usage in mind and I had two comrades who had bought them for around 120€ 5 years ago. And let me tell you, if you have to lie somewhere outside with -15° celsius it is a pleasure to wear those gloves.
Peter Beefchicken just to clarify I'm not dissing the review. Just saying that for gloves like that you want a test in at least -20 with biting wind. This class of glove would need to succeed at -35 to be successful in my opinion.
No, countries like Poland, Ukraine, Russia, the Baltic states, Switzerland or Austria don´t have cold temperatures. You have just proven your vast knowledge about Europe, well, that is not surprising at all.
My buddy has these same gloves in fairbanks alaska. And they don't keep you warm in minus 35 below 0. These gloves are nor for extreme cold. Great video Luke as always my friend.....
military surplus monkey gloves worked great for me working at prudoe bay in the 80's. I don't know if they still make them but great in the artic. $15 dollars then :) I used military wool finger gloves inside them. the monkey gloves had a strap that went around your neck so you could pull your hands out to work while the hung by your sides.
I have a pair of these and I've found that they help keeping the liner in place when you pull the mittens off. I haven't used them very much though. Ever since I've bought them there's been nothing but mild winters. Figures...
I am a big mitten fan but I don’t like the glove effect I like just an open mitten quick off if needed easy back on. That just my opinion with that said it what works for me Thanks for another great video
The most expensive gloves by far, that I have ever bought for winter photography, in the Canadian winter. The mitts are as advertised, very warm. But that's not the point, you cant use your camera with mitts. Once you unzip the opening and stick you fingers out, the liner just does not make the grade. The liner is just not warm enough for the Canadian winter. Also, the tips are stubby, not pointy, so it is difficult to operate the camera controls ("fat fingers"). Since I spent all that money (AND $85 CAD customs duty!) I'm going to cut off the tips of the liners, get a warmer pair of liners on my hands, and stick my fingers through the holes. Hope that works to salvage the situation, or I'll have lost a lot of money on a good pair of mitts that I can t do photography with.
@@Lightsource101 Yes better when I use my own choice of inner gloves. A bit tight as the mitt was designed for thin liners, but workable with some adjustments.
I like your content normally but lately I feel like I'm watching the outdoor shopping channel. I was waiting for the number of gloves left for sale in the corner of the sceen and a pay in 3 installment offer. :) I appreciate that you are doing reviews but jeeez. Anyway with 109000 subs going down to 108999 subs wont matter at all.
10 degree F is not that low for gloves at this price point. Have a pair of Marmots that I have worked at lower temps. No doubt much of the price is in the conversion features.
Lol, but of course, you have to take the glove off for the finger print scanner, Or, you could just cut that silver tip off for that reason, if your phone has a finger print scanner
That tends to keep the fingers together so when you pull them off or pull them on, they don't ball up as much. It will still happen but not as bad as some gloves. - Luke
Man I have a pair of gloves I got from a pro ski shop that I bought a few years back. I bought them because I was ridding my Harley in extreme winter temps and nothing I bought could hang with the cold temps and I didn't want to go with heated gloves. These gloves I bought dd the trick IF I used a glove liner, they are made by a company called Spider. I don't know anything about the company but they are some bad A__ gloves BUT they were 200.00 Since I sold my bike they are just sitting not being used :-(
There is also Swedish Hestra. They make good expensive gloves, but not THAT expensive. Not most models at least. Stores can be found on site: hestragloves.com/sport/en/gloves/ hestragloves.com/sport/en/stores/
In no way do I think Luke would scam us. The guys is a straight arrow. I myself have gear that's a few years old that still looks like brand new and I use it but I just take care of it.
It's shipping from Austria if you buy from their website so $45 isn't crazy at all for shipping to the U.S. B&H is their authorized U.S. Dealer buy from B&H and you'll probably get free shipping.
You sir are an awesome outdoorsman no doubt. But -12 is not cold. In Winnipeg we have entire months that are -30 Celsius sometimes. Regularly in November during rifle hunting season it hits -20 Celsius. Getting a clothing system that you can hunt in all day and still move around is a challenge. Slowly I have been piecing together military surplus stuff to get it together. But your outdoor clothing system I think is more important that even your rifle
Peter Beefchicken so do you like or hate on this channel. He has no reason to say he has been using them.for years if he had not. These govels are used for extreme cold. It doesn't get that cold.where he lives. Just because you own something for years doesn't mean you wear them for 400 days. Good govels and if you take care of them don't just get messed up in a few months. Take military surplus for example. I trust Luke and his reviews. You just seam to be a hater.
By extreme cold I mean -15 to -30 anything more is just too much and you need special gear. There main selling point seams to be the finger dexterity and good build. But I wouldn't buy them I would pay no more than 85usd
buy gloves that fit your hands. then buy bigger mittens to wear over the gloves. way cheaper. get them from the dollar store. and they sell the heat pads at the dollar store too. layering is the key. as for using your cell phone, please.
And those mittens are water proof? Windproof? Durable? I guess not. Those gloves were designed with soldiers, not for the average joe that goes skiing once in a while.
if i were in Antarctica for an extended period of time i would like a pair of these. even for seasonal use i don't think these are worth it with other options in the convertible/flip top department, thinsulate will suffice. i do see a North Pole photographer using these, maybe Santa's mechanic (figure that out).
Thanks for the gloves for their mittens I need a pair for my hunting thank you so much happy birthday to me thanks for the gloves how much are gloves LOL
That is a lot fer gloves! I've had the same pair of ridein' gloves fer 22years! Leather with Thinsulate,not sure the weight,can't do much but hold the handlebars but warm at 25deg. an 65mph! $35!! Thanks fer the review Luke. ZZ.
Fragile is that what your saying , any one worth there salt should be able to stitch up any tear in the glove or in anything else including sewing up skin the needle is one of the most forgotten survival tool around, but never have I ever seen any one address this that little sharp piece of wire can save your bloody hand leg or life if used properly and any one who spends time out in the mountains or woods should either teach them selves or go to the red cross first aid class which no one goes to because they have all the answers until it to late . Happy Trails.
Great review unfortunately I stopped watching right around 4 minutes right when you said how much they cost I will never pay that much for a pair of gloves even if I wanted to I would never be able to afford that much for a pair of gloves
Paying $165 for a pair of gloves is much less expensive than getting your fingers treated for frostbite. Fast forward a couple of years, and you can be looking at your three remaining fingers marveling at the money you saved. It's all a matter of perspective.
wisenber oh I totally understand that but there's a lot cheaper options out there then paying $165 for a pair of gloves I think a $30 pair of gloves will work just fine
Most places that a $30 pair of gloves will do usually do not result in frostbite from my experience. If you're going to be out in temps below 0 F for days, gloves aren't a good choice for saving money. That being said, these aren't the only option. Wiggy's has some excellent mittens that will work in the minus 20 F range for about $85 that have more insulation and do not depend on chemical warmers. I've also used Dachstein wool mitts and an overmitt that can manage close to that temperature for around $100. I've never seen thirty bucks worth of hand insulation I'd trust in bitter cold for more than a dayhike.
My cheaper gloves worked for a week solid in -10 while trapping for a week last winter. Maybe, I'm just more tolerant to cold temps, but I doubt it. I also used a warming fire at night. A pair of surplus ECW mittens are good for what -40 at minimum and they'll run you a whole 20-25.00. I think the reviewed gloves are nice and all, but the price is just to high when there are much cheaper and effective items out there. I have a couple friends who use Wiggy bags and swear by them. I don't think it's a matter of being right or wrong - but these are priced to the sky.
I’m using the Shell from the Layer version and use normal Mechanix as a base layer. This way I have the best of both worlds and can use this system for hard use and not worry about ripping the liner.
What you say starting at 6:30 really concerns me. As a photographer, a lot of the time I spend afield in the cold is spent breaking down branches and tearing out vegetation to clear shooting lanes, and also gathering branches and other vegetation up and making natural blinds in which to hide. The gloves I use for photography must endure a lot of use against abrasive and prickly materials. I simply can't pay such an enormous sum for something that will not withstand a lot of abrasive wear and tear. Photography isn't just holding a camera and carrying a tripod .... rather, outdoor photography is all about doing a lot of hard "landscaping" to get things the way you want for the photographs you plan to take.
I bought these gloves. Damn it's expensive! Most expensive piece of clothing I own. Not only that, but I had to pay extra duty because they were made outside of Canada. And then taxes and the ridiculous shipping fee on top of that.
But I used them the first time yesterday in the cold and they felt like they were getting hot. Without any hand warmers.
I would personally go for the layer system since if the inner glove wears out you can replace it pretty cheaply
Nice, I'll have to get a couple pairs of those, will be a good replacement for my USAF flyers gloves in extreme conditions.
Just get the mittens itself for 10 bugs less and combine them with any gloves you like - if you tear up your gloves then, it doesn't compromise the functionality of your mittens in any way, they'll last and last.
Would need to be tested at a lower temp.
Yeah, something like -12 is way too warm to test proper winter clothing. You'll be warm in those temperatures with basic leather+slight insulation combo gloves. One really starts to appreciate proper gloves when it's below -25 (Centigrade), I bet that's where these gloves are meant for. If you don't need that much warmth, you can get by with a lot cheaper options. But proper, durable and warm gloves tend to have a price of at least 50 €. You're gonna pay that even for army surplus to get the proper layering, although you'll end up with bunch of layers and hence that's all you need all around the year. These Heat 3 gloves have so many functionalities which surely ramps up the price. The layer version might be valuable option, at least it seems well thought out, and when you buy new and not surplus, stuff is expensive. But 165 Dollars is way too much for a single pair of gloves, unless one lives in Antarctica.
Well it depends. Like he said those gloves were designed with military usage in mind and I had two comrades who had bought them for around 120€ 5 years ago. And let me tell you, if you have to lie somewhere outside with -15° celsius it is a pleasure to wear those gloves.
Yeah, scam and the best selling gloves in Europe.
Peter Beefchicken just to clarify I'm not dissing the review. Just saying that for gloves like that you want a test in at least -20 with biting wind. This class of glove would need to succeed at -35 to be successful in my opinion.
No, countries like Poland, Ukraine, Russia, the Baltic states, Switzerland or Austria don´t have cold temperatures. You have just proven your vast knowledge about Europe, well, that is not surprising at all.
A well thought out product. If I often needed gloves like that, I think it would be worth it.
It’s conductive thread. You can buy it at fabric stores or online and stitch it into any pair gloves and allow them to work with your smart device.
My buddy has these same gloves in fairbanks alaska. And they don't keep you warm in minus 35 below 0. These gloves are nor for extreme cold. Great video Luke as always my friend.....
Thanks Luke!
What are the staps between the fingers?
I can see that glove liner melting when taking somethin hot off of the campfire. Leather works better there.
Wool does not melt.
military surplus monkey gloves worked great for me working at prudoe bay in the 80's. I don't know if they still make them but great in the artic. $15 dollars then :) I used military wool finger gloves inside them. the monkey gloves had a strap that went around your neck so you could pull your hands out to work while the hung by your sides.
What's up with the straps between the fingers? I can't imagine what they're for, and it seems like they would be annoying.
That was my question too.
I have a pair of these and I've found that they help keeping the liner in place when you pull the mittens off. I haven't used them very much though. Ever since I've bought them there's been nothing but mild winters. Figures...
I am a big mitten fan but I don’t like the glove effect I like just an open mitten quick off if needed easy back on.
That just my opinion with that said it what works for me
Thanks for another great video
A pair of military artict mittens with woll glove incert that's all you need.
Have you reviewed American or Canadian army arctic mitts?
I haven't but I do have some; review coming soon!
- Luke
The most expensive gloves by far, that I have ever bought for winter photography, in the Canadian winter. The mitts are as advertised, very warm. But that's not the point, you cant use your camera with mitts. Once you unzip the opening and stick you fingers out, the liner just does not make the grade. The liner is just not warm enough for the Canadian winter. Also, the tips are stubby, not pointy, so it is difficult to operate the camera controls ("fat fingers"). Since I spent all that money (AND $85 CAD customs duty!) I'm going to cut off the tips of the liners, get a warmer pair of liners on my hands, and stick my fingers through the holes. Hope that works to salvage the situation, or I'll have lost a lot of money on a good pair of mitts that I can t do photography with.
Hello @dipanka, any update? Did it work cutting off the tips of the built-in liners and replacing it with warmer ones? Was it any better?
@@Lightsource101 Yes better when I use my own choice of inner gloves. A bit tight as the mitt was designed for thin liners, but workable with some adjustments.
I like your content normally but lately I feel like I'm watching the outdoor shopping channel. I was waiting for the number of gloves left for sale in the corner of the sceen and a pay in 3 installment offer. :) I appreciate that you are doing reviews but jeeez. Anyway with 109000 subs going down to 108999 subs wont matter at all.
Not sure what you mean, I didn't recommend the product.
Strength and honor folks.
- Luke
It's called outdoor GEAR REVIEW butthole which is exactly what he did
10 degree F is not that low for gloves at this price point. Have a pair of Marmots that I have worked at lower temps. No doubt much of the price is in the conversion features.
Where are they made?
I checked out these gloves on there page but I don't see how much do they weight?
Is the inside liner water proof ?
Lol, but of course, you have to take the glove off for the finger print scanner, Or, you could just cut that silver tip off for that reason, if your phone has a finger print scanner
You should check out the Give’r 4 season gloves with wax coating. And if you do could you review it!
Should be the last pair I ever buy, then pass down for generations!!! Do they make parkas?
Of all the countless ways I have blown money; I can justify buying a pair of those... I live in Michigan, it gets cold here!!
also live in michigan, and i agree with you......
Great review Luke!...woods
Why are the fingers webbed?
That tends to keep the fingers together so when you pull them off or pull them on, they don't ball up as much. It will still happen but not as bad as some gloves.
- Luke
i bought my gloves 3 years ago .. yes price very expensive but when you want the best money should not be a problem ...
Great for mountaineering and ski mountaineering in places like WY and MT.
Man I have a pair of gloves I got from a pro ski shop that I bought a few years back.
I bought them because I was ridding my Harley in extreme winter temps and nothing I bought could hang with the cold temps and I didn't want to go with heated gloves.
These gloves I bought dd the trick IF I used a glove liner, they are made by a company called Spider. I don't know anything about the company but they are some bad A__ gloves BUT they were 200.00
Since I sold my bike they are just sitting not being used :-(
Looks more like gloves one would wear riding snowmobiles where the wind chill gets real cold and for traveling long distance.
There is also Swedish Hestra. They make good expensive gloves, but not THAT expensive. Not most models at least. Stores can be found on site: hestragloves.com/sport/en/gloves/ hestragloves.com/sport/en/stores/
Nice gloves good thing I won't need them in south Florida. Altho I do vaca in the smokies from time to time
165 + 45$ shipping they are crazy asking 45 $ for shipping
In no way do I think Luke would scam us. The guys is a straight arrow. I myself have gear that's a few years old that still looks like brand new and I use it but I just take care of it.
It's shipping from Austria if you buy from their website so $45 isn't crazy at all for shipping to the U.S. B&H is their authorized U.S. Dealer buy from B&H and you'll probably get free shipping.
You sir are an awesome outdoorsman no doubt. But -12 is not cold. In Winnipeg we have entire months that are -30 Celsius sometimes. Regularly in November during rifle hunting season it hits -20 Celsius. Getting a clothing system that you can hunt in all day and still move around is a challenge. Slowly I have been piecing together military surplus stuff to get it together. But your outdoor clothing system I think is more important that even your rifle
Seriously the man
j want heated vest 12v battery too
Great video thanks for keeping it true Luke.
Strength and Honor.
Peter Beefchicken What?
Peter Beefchicken Do you like anything about this channel? Or are you just here to hate?
Peter Beefchicken so do you like or hate on this channel. He has no reason to say he has been using them.for years if he had not. These govels are used for extreme cold. It doesn't get that cold.where he lives. Just because you own something for years doesn't mean you wear them for 400 days. Good govels and if you take care of them don't just get messed up in a few months. Take military surplus for example. I trust Luke and his reviews. You just seam to be a hater.
Peter Beefchicken and last winter it was -25 c so I know cold. Too m9
By extreme cold I mean -15 to -30 anything more is just too much and you need special gear. There main selling point seams to be the finger dexterity and good build. But I wouldn't buy them I would pay no more than 85usd
Holy crap do they got gold in them expensive
When your hands are cold and you're in a cold environment you will pay anything for warm hands
ExRE_Sapper Ft Leonardwood taught me that haha
-12....that's cute....hardly even need gloves in that temperature...Hello from Canada
buy gloves that fit your hands. then buy bigger mittens to wear over the gloves. way cheaper. get them from the dollar store. and they sell the heat pads at the dollar store too. layering is the key. as for using your cell phone, please.
And those mittens are water proof? Windproof? Durable?
I guess not. Those gloves were designed with soldiers, not for the average joe that goes skiing once in a while.
actually the ones I got were waterproof
if i were in Antarctica for an extended period of time i would like a pair of these. even for seasonal use i don't think these are worth it with other options in the convertible/flip top department, thinsulate will suffice. i do see a North Pole photographer using these, maybe Santa's mechanic (figure that out).
I love how you think that -10F is cold. Ha ha ha. 🍁
any one have 20cm hand??
you buy 8 or 9??
Did you say pull my finger ? LOL!!!.....
You have not used good gortex gloves witch you can buy any inset from the best outdoor company
Thanks for the gloves for their mittens I need a pair for my hunting thank you so much happy birthday to me thanks for the gloves how much are gloves LOL
That is a lot fer gloves! I've had the same pair of ridein' gloves fer 22years! Leather with Thinsulate,not sure the weight,can't do much but hold the handlebars but warm at 25deg. an 65mph! $35!! Thanks fer the review Luke. ZZ.
Fragile is that what your saying , any one worth there salt should be able to stitch up any tear in the glove or in anything else including sewing up skin the needle is one of the most forgotten survival tool around, but never have I ever seen any one address this that little sharp piece of wire can save your bloody hand leg or life if used properly and any one who spends time out in the mountains or woods should either teach them selves or go to the red cross first aid class which no one goes to because they have all the answers until it to late . Happy Trails.
Awesome review Luke; one thing you forgot is to point out how much they weight. Thanks for sharing!
Probably wouldn't need them here in Arizona...
for that price im going to keep using my ice armor gloves and mittens
Nice price but I would never pay this price for gloves
nice
In our house we call them "glovins" :)
Hahaha Perfect!
- Luke
Those are cheap Luke! Go look on Outdoor Research's website for their gloves.
Just get the heat 2
For 200 bucks they better come with a Swedish bikini model.
Opps! Maybe the glove part is leather.
Crazy price when you can stay warm with mil sup stuff at one-tenth the price.
Gloves? I just use my pockets
Hunting gloves trigger finger tips
Great review unfortunately I stopped watching right around 4 minutes right when you said how much they cost I will never pay that much for a pair of gloves even if I wanted to I would never be able to afford that much for a pair of gloves
I have a similar pair of gloves that I paid roughly 40.00 for. Can expose finger gloves and zipper to insert hot pocket. Completely overpriced.
Paying $165 for a pair of gloves is much less expensive than getting your fingers treated for frostbite. Fast forward a couple of years, and you can be looking at your three remaining fingers marveling at the money you saved. It's all a matter of perspective.
wisenber oh I totally understand that but there's a lot cheaper options out there then paying $165 for a pair of gloves I think a $30 pair of gloves will work just fine
Most places that a $30 pair of gloves will do usually do not result in frostbite from my experience. If you're going to be out in temps below 0 F for days, gloves aren't a good choice for saving money. That being said, these aren't the only option. Wiggy's has some excellent mittens that will work in the minus 20 F range for about $85 that have more insulation and do not depend on chemical warmers. I've also used Dachstein wool mitts and an overmitt that can manage close to that temperature for around $100. I've never seen thirty bucks worth of hand insulation I'd trust in bitter cold for more than a dayhike.
My cheaper gloves worked for a week solid in -10 while trapping for a week last winter. Maybe, I'm just more tolerant to cold temps, but I doubt it. I also used a warming fire at night.
A pair of surplus ECW mittens are good for what -40 at minimum and they'll run you a whole 20-25.00. I think the reviewed gloves are nice and all, but the price is just to high when there are much cheaper and effective items out there. I have a couple friends who use Wiggy bags and swear by them. I don't think it's a matter of being right or wrong - but these are priced to the sky.
buy once, cry once.
Sorry why would even test this cheap gloves. Test that or your gloves in negative 40 below o with windchill below
It doesn't get that cold anywhere even close to where I live so I test with the conditions present.
- Luke
Yay first