Hey Guy Thanks so much for this video. Going camping for the first time and taking the kids with us for acouple of nights. So feeling a bit nervous. Your layering presentation was really useful and funny as well ...sexy bod by the way ! 😁😁 Did not know about layering gloves and socks as well as the jackets !! Thank you so much.
A tip for thermal longjohns, top and bottom, is to avoid them being skin tight which is the option most people go for. This allows heat from your body to escape as quickly as it builds up and can restrict movement because the material is tight against your skin. The ideal is loose, but not baggy which makes them much more effective, especially when you are active. I was given this advice by guys who work on the North Sea oil rigs for whom warmth and personal safety is paramount and have taken this advice myself for both camping and sea angling, both ashore and afloat, right through the winter for a number of years and I can assure you, it really does make a big difference to comfort. The proof? At 71 years of age, I'm the only one in my local age group who doesn't suffer from the usual age-related problems with restricted movement and still hike on a regular basis!
Hi, from Montreal, Canada. We train outdoors in the winter (obstacle course training). Excellent video; nice details. Just 2 more tips: 1: Wear merino wool base layer and socks and 2: keep a hand warmer right behind your cell phone, so it doesn't freeze and shut down.
Being homeless myself, I invented the 7-layer system for the homeless based on the 3-layer system for trekking/mountaineering . I never use thick or medium clothing, always the thinner versions. 1. Cotton or thermal wool 2. Polyester trekking shirt, very thin 3. Really thin fleece bodywarmer 4. Thin fleece with sleeves 5. Thin synthetic bodywarmer 6. Windstopper with hood 7. Rain jacket, membrane (or poncho) The windstopper and the rain jacket kind of double for each other, my windstopper is water-resistant en my rain jacket also has windstopping properties. If you know you'll sweat, use merinowool, otherwise organic cotton is fine. The bodywarmers create more space at the sides of the shoulders, create padding for carrying, they also help with wicking because they create more armpit-space.
@@JohnDoe-tt4fm you still live with your parents don't you? Only a completely sheltered and inexperienced person would come to a conclusion as poorly thought-out as yours.
The irony of winter clothing is the colder it gets, the more layers you wear...which of course causes sweating under even a basic level of exertion. The trick is to know when to peel off layers if you are moving so you don't over-heat and when to put them back on again. Sweating is deadly in cold weather.
Great video! One thing though, if your boots are too tight then you won't have good circulation to you feet, and it won't matter how much insulation you have, they'll get cold!
I remember buying a cheap insulated snowsuit some years ago. It was so warm i would start to SWEAT when i walked to the store in 0 degree farenheit..! If you are going out in really cold temperatures, you may want to check these out. You can get them both in insulated versions, and just the shell, without insulation, so you can adjust the temperature with wool sweaters and stuff.
The first time I hunted it was 18 degrees. I was wearing jeans, sneakers and a GI flight jacket sitting on a stump. I hated it. Now: Base, lofting and outer layers, sock and glove liners, fleece, infrared cold gear, Thinsulate and Gore-Tex. I am comfortable in the worst Tennessee can offer. Great video. Life saving potentially!
Do not layer socks like that. Get a thicker sock maybe, but if your boot feels really tight you're destroying the loft. Wool isn't insulating, air is, wool holds air. While loft isn't as big of a deal with wool as it with down or synthetic insulation, it still kind of defeats the purpose of layering(adding loft). Wool is a good choice, but don't let it get too tight.
Travis sturzl yeah he had a good few points but I disagree on his sock theory myself. I hate the fact most winter gear is expensive, but I spent it on my boots for sure. sorrels, with wool boot liners. one pair of socks only. putting on to many will compact them defeating the porpus. and one thing for sure that needed to be addressed that wasn't, is combating foot sweat in such a system. cold does weird crap to your body, and I have had feet sweat at 19 degrees, and I never have issues with that. wool absorbs up to something close to 90 percent of it's weight in moisture, so while they work, if this is the preferred material, I think you need to bring a lot of pairs to change. but aside from that wasn't a bad video.
Yes Travis your spot on, same thing I said, if someone is going to layer their gear no matter what it is then go up one size, silly mistakes like that could cost people dearly.
I camped in -10F with two layers of wool socks and I started to loose feeling in my toes. I had to bail out but later realized it was a circulation problem. Outside of my shelter, the boots were freezing solid which made the problem even worse. Oversized boots would have been a good solution.
Work for a non profit where we canvass year round, and we brief new staff on how to layer and be knocking on doors 5 hours a night year round. Not such a big deal compared to backcountry hiking but that's why newer staff don't think about it until they're miserable and why we take time to make sure they're prepared - what they need to be warm and dry, where they can buy stuff around town and where they can find it cheap, etc. Your video basically a better version of what we do but hitting the same points (starting first with shoes and socks, always! - and layers being key). Gonna pass this on to our director to bookmark for next year, wouldn't be surprised if she sent this out to folks starting in the winter before their first day on staff. Well done thank you!
For extreme cold I’ve found a “dual” base layer works very well. I use a lightweight synthetic “wicking” base layer and over that I wear the heavy Polartech waffle fleece pants and zip up shirt. When I’m walking or exerting I can unzip the shirt to vent and when I stop I can zip it up. And I wear wool cargo pants they are wind and water resistant ant very warm.
Being able to wick up the sweat is what I understand to be the most important thing about layering.. Great content here. I am an electrician and since we are wiring new construction we do not have any heat until it is time to leave. Luckily we stay out of the wind most of the time.
Very nice video. I know many people that are a bit afraid to assume that in 5 degrees are using 3 system layer, most of people like to posing as strongers. Its very nice to see people teaching this things :)
Great video! Back to the basics of layering. I routinely hike in 30-40 below (north of Fairbanks AK) and I layer the same way with the only difference being the boots. All of you complaining about his sock layering; its fine for the temps he is talking about. If you are a couch potato and have poor circulation and low iron you would probably have to layer differently but for those who routinely get out and hike (especially in the cold) everything he said is spot on! Explore on my friend!!
Always makes me chuckle when you call your hats a toboggan, up here in canada (eh) a toboggan is a sled for sliding down a hill and a toque is what you put on your head to keep it warm I think most Americans refer to a toque as a beanie : p
Dreded Haha In the (United States) south and midwest, especially Appalachia where I'm from, they are often called a toboggan but we also call a sled a toboggan too. I've heard that this came about because of a company that sold knit caps, mostly in the south and the company went by the name "Toboggan." I haven't of a Toque before though. Be well my friend. - Luke
in my job I have to work two hours everyday inside a 10 F freezer, and I agree with everything you mentioned here .however my fingers tend to get cold even with two cloves plus a mitt , that's why I put 3 hand warmers in each hand . also I noticed fleece jackets do a great job making me warm yet there are not heavy and they keep moisture away . the mask is very important to keep the face warm. thank you great video.
Great info. The onion principle in action. As you sit static you will want all your layers on keeping you warm, but as you move around you will want to peel layers to maintain a no sweat status. when your activity starts to calm down and you feel yourself getting cool add your layers to find that comfort zone.
Yeah I suffered from over layering during an over night winter camping. Prepared for the worst and payed for it in lots of sweat, chafing and uncomfortable...live and learn they say.
Thanks for the video. Getting ready for first winter backpacking trip and researching gear and clothing. Appreciate the pointers, got me looking in the right direction. Cheers.
Wonder how the Patagonia wicking layer compares to Helly Hansen LIFA dry stripe. For really cold hikes I use the OR Gorilla as it keeps my face from getting frozen and it meshes up to my ski googles well.
Because of you I fell in love with Marmot. I have a 3 way winter coat, gloves and a sweater. Love the heck out of it. Then you showed the outer coat at the end, OMG, Going broke watching your videos. My next thing is have you thought about trying the Army ECWICS 3 system? I am not sure if it can be bought publicly yet. I have used it and didnt think it would work but let me tell you, down to 10 degrees and below it worked like a charm. for what I was doing. Now one thing they (Army) stress is leaving the outer most top garment untucked. Supposedly it allows the air to circulate and help with moister control? your thoughts?
Some Guy I could never live in hot weather. And this comes from someone with titanium rods and screws in my spine. I will take the changes of season any day. But that's why they make many flavors of ice cream , to each their own.
esorzinom I am I truck driver from Philly. I always laughed when I would be in Florida and the people would put on winter coats on at 55 degrees and says it cold. Cold is getting out of the truck and having your beard freeze before you make the rear of the trailer. That happened in Minnesota during one of the winters when they broke the record of consecutive days with high below 0.
Awesome! Thank you very much for this comprehensive illustrations on layering. I'm going to see the aurora lights soon, was wondering what and how to wear to keep myself warm. So lucky, I found this video before my trip! Thank you again!
Very appropriate content as winters seem to be getting colder. Nothing like getting prepared. Just ordered some nylon outer hiking pants and some gaiters today. Great vid Luke.
Got a great deal on nylon REI Sahara Convertible Pants. Also ordered an ENO Double Nest Hammock, and I'll order the Bug Net and fly too. Tonight I lucked up at WalMart and found the little 9 ounce 5x7 backpack tarp. Just tied on some shock cord to the grommets. Hey Luke, thanks for the motivation man. I got a NC trail book at REI and gonna pick some easier hikes to start with. Maybe catch you on a trail someday near South Mountain, after I get in shape. LOL. Good luck.
Thanks for the detailed information. I recently lost a lot of weight and am prepping for gastric bypass surgery to help lose the rest. I am NOT used to being cold or being active outside in the winter. This was very, very helpful for me & got me thinking about how to stay warm now that I don't have all that...um...personal insulation. ;o) Cheers!!!
Thank you so much for this! I'm a Southern California guy and "Clueless" on layering. Not anymore thanks to this video! Also, I really appreciate you going the extra mile to actually show us how you put the gear on. Many thanks!!!
Great video. When I got stationed in Anchorage Ak, I really had no idea about layering.... but I sure had to learn fast. My layering system is near perfect. The only thing is my tights are a little loose and I feel I am not getting the right protection. I have the XGO Tactical Apparel, but I was thinking about switching to the Columbia Omni-Heat tights. I have the top and it is amazing. Once again great video!
Excellent video - Thanks, Luke! I grew up and worked on farms, as well as hunted, in a rural area of west central MN. Many cold winter days and nights to say the least. I learned the concept of layering at a young age and echo all the lessons you've shown here. Thanks again!
Thanks for your considerate counsel, I received definite value. Your guidance could entirely save someone's life, and certainly improve anyone's life, it helped me prepare better. God Bless
OK dude I live in Saskatchewan how you dressed that is how we dress to go start our car in the morning. Here it gets to - 30 to -50 for 3 to 4 months straight. You need to come see what real cold is all about. IN -10 degree weather we wear t-shirts and shorts waiting for outdoor pools to open.
Hi Luke, i've only recently found your videos and got to say - I'm impressed! The reviews and instructional videos you post are very informative. I am 73 yrs and just about to embark on my first camp since I was in my teens. Just a one nighter for an airshow here in the UK to start with. It may lead to more excursions. I'm staggered by the range of tents available in the US. Stores here in the UK seem to stock only a very limited range. I have just bought a Vango Pop 400 for that airshow which will suit for my son and me for that one night, only £70 GDP in a closing down sale. Have you ever reviewed any Vango equipment? You've piqued my interest in the outdoors again and I seem to be watching you more and more on your adventures with a great feeling of jealousy and awe at the fantastic places you can access instead of getting on with my chores. In several vid's you're wearing base layers of various colours with an 'Active' logo on them. My searches have yet to find that brand either through Google or Amazon. Could you point me in the right direction to find that brand please? Good to see you out with your other half. She looks like a 'keeper'. All the best to you both from the UK.
Hey Guy Thanks so much for this video. Going camping for the first time and taking the kids with us for acouple of nights. So feeling a bit nervous. Your layering presentation was really useful and funny as well ...sexy bod by the way ! 😁😁 Did not know about layering gloves and socks as well as the jackets !! Thank you so much.
As a hunter, having the right clothing and gear is important. I wear boots, and only one pair of wool socks and my legs dont get fatigued after long walks. Also, I find having pants and a jacket that has wool liner and a polyester shell is more than sufficient. The poly shell blocks wind, and is water resistant. I only wear two upper and lower layers and I stay warm for hours in single digital temps and Im just sitting there. I shopped Cabelas and military surplus with gear from Russia etc...
Thanks for the information , but I wish you covered some of the new fabrics and their purpose like , merino wool and polygiene and cocano (spelling?) I want to know the combination of synthetics and merino wool and how each prevents or promotes odor. I know not to wear cotton , but the best ratio of wool or synthetics etc. Also the best breathable shells for moisture. Thanks Peace
i use over all protection( binnie,socks/darn tough layer,neck gaiter,glove insert)400 merino base layer,and graphine based outer layer,warm during alaska vacation.no problem at.-13°c
I took an outdoor survival class at nightschool back in the early 80's because I needed the credits to graduate in my 5th year of highschool. It seemed like an easy credit that's why I took it. but no, I had to actually learn stuff. My teacher Mr. Hill was a huge wool fanatic. He used to say if it aint wool it's crap! Every test had a wool question or the answer was wool. It became a running joke with the class. his reasoning was that it keeps you warm even if it gets wet. He was actually a really good teacher. He taught us all how to flyfish . He would not let us graduate until we got it down. I actually learned a lot from that crazy sob. I wonder if he's still alive?
Got some down pants at Taiga out of Canada, pricey but crazy warm, also down boots. Always a good idea to wear a shell over the down, not necessarily to keep it dry, but to protect it from rips and snags. Usually it's so cold when I put the down on, I don't have to worry about moisture.
Every season i buy a few yards of Insul-Brite insulating fabric. I add it to whatever I want to insulate better. I add it to my dogs cold weather gear which significantly adds to it's heat holding ability. There's always scraps left over, trace my shoes insole on a piece Insul-Brite then slip it inside my shoes before the insole. Now my shoes have a barrier in between my feet and the frozen ground.
A very very informative video and glad you have shared it with us all. I do have 2 questions and they are , 1 - will you be comfortable in this clothing at - 40 below zero and as well , what is the total cost of the garments all told including taxes on average ? Thanking you kindly in advance for a reply. Best regards from Northern Canada.
My ski gear is perfect for very cold temp. Starts with: base layer, fleece sweater, down jacket, hellyhansen professional back bowl (that I’m very proud of lol), swany mittens, with 2 sets of had warmers in each, helmet, buff, I have no giggle gap with the Oakley air brakes, and I wear the hood over all this if need be, then for legs it’s, Artica zip down pants with heavy sweat pants underneath with base layer like video, and like any ski racer, super cold feet with boots that can’t fit foot warmers in them and even warm socks, got frost bite once on my feet. It sucked. But yea, skiing in the wind when it’s already -35 (the lowest I have been in that I remember) plus wind chill and the wind from skiing, makes for a cold day on snow. But for skiing your creating lots of heat from moving around so props to him for hiking is super cold stuff.
Could you recommend a setup for MTB riding in 35-45 deg.,wind and occasional drizzle I wear a Under Armour heatgear undershirt,Asics vented polyester and a cheap poly windbreaker.I would like padding on the arm front and some venting in the underarms .The sweating in the armpit's is my big problem with a hood. Thanks great video.
Fleece face mask and aviator cap. In a North Dakota winter, waiting outside for a bus or just walking around, you can get frostbite in 30 minutes or less, especially if its minus 55 F and windy. Its also easier to breathe when the nose and mouth are warmed.
Post-divorce living in Colorado, I am wanting to live my life to the full but no outdoor skills. Thank you for showing us the basics of clothe layering! Ps. Thank you for talking about boots and socks too!
Awesome review Luke, I'm going to Harriman State Park next weekend for a 2 nighter, I'm expecting it to be really cold. So this helped me put my layering in perspective. Hopefully I layer up right and have no issues. Although I'm prepared for the worst..........I think!!!!
found your video very helpful.Thank you for the step by step and detailed pro's and con's of layering. I'm planning to do a solo winter hike next year for the first time. I have done other hikes by the way just not winter. This helps a lot on knowing what to get.After I watched your video I was looking into what that jacket was made of and found this type of material polyamide fabric. Now I'm looking into what materials are used on articles that you mentioned. thanks for a great video
Huge help for a desert person as myself,,, I can go to school and learn in 115 degrees and get home when it's 120 degrees Fahrenheit but not 0 and negative I'm from death valley and even tho it drops I'm not a daily cold hike guy ... we only get fires here in Cali lol
Thanks Luke, great video, very informative. Would you recommend buying larger boots/shoes for winter to make them more comforting to wear with the extra socks?
I would also like a more itemized list to make things simpler but for those that don't know he works with a website and I think his fleece jacket is discontinued closest thing I could find was the Mammut Runbold but it's definitely not the same thing.
Thanks for the tips buddy, I'm going to start being a bell ringer for the Salvation Army this season and it gets cold and slushy where I live. Thank you.
Still love that swiss army poncho. I think the thing is great for snow and blocks wind, as ridiculous as that thing looks I have worn that in out in blizzards. It adds an incredible layer of warmth as well. Now I know it might not be the best use out on a hike. But the thing is a tent in itself. For something that ridiculous looking its still my favorite piece of gear. If I can't have that then I'm moving out of New England and down south. Cheers!
Typically. If I'm active. I dress light and carry extra layers to throw on when I stop. I did Mt Washington in February. Hiked up with a soft layer, a skin-tight wicking base layer and a light pair of wicking socks. Once I got up to the shelter I layered up. Nice and warm
I'm suprised you didn't have any down insation. Pardon me if you mentioned it in the video. I was having a connection problem and missed about 2 minutes. Could you explain why you didn't choose down?
+Sam Pierson Down is a great choice if you are 100% certain you can keep it dry. When down gets wet it looses all insulation value, and takes forever to dry. If there is any chance you may get wet take wool and/or fleece instead. Fleece will wick moisture better and dry faster. Wool can absorb 30% of its weight in water before it feels damp, and even soaking wet wool retains 80% of its insulation value. Fleece is lighter and cheaper, wool will last longer and is more flame resistant. Each has its pros and cons. Hope that helps, stay safe and warm out there.
Yep, and down is not a good choice in a multi day trip in cold and humid conditions as the performance will quickly deteriorate. Primaloft and similar materials are a great filler for those conditions as they will dry quickly and have pretty good thermal properties even when wet. I live in the UK and down is not adviseable here.
Our hikes definitely vary in time. The 10 miler that's common for us usually starts at 8:30pm and we're done by 12am. Some times we stop and talk less or more; it varies. One night we did 30 miles in about 10 hours.
I use Mountain Hardwear Windstopper jacket and pants with fleece underneath. My Arc'Teryx goretex pro shell never traps moisture underneath. Its breathable.
Tip: if you're out in the cold, and you have a smart phone with you, use a hand heat pack in the pocket u keep the phone in to prevent the battery from getting too cold and the phone shutting down. Great advice, I have heard thou that using 2 pairs of socks doesn't work as well as just using 1, although i don't recall exactly why, i just use 1 pair of Smart Wool socks and they seem to work great!
Great tip in regards to the phones. The cold will killed the battery for sure. When it comes to socks, I've heard both sides before and I see the points of both. Some say that two pairs of socks cause blisters while others say they prevent them. Some say its preferred because it pulls moisture from the foot to keep the foot warmer. On and On. Ultimately I say go with what you prefer and the conditions of the hike. If it doesn't work for you, live and learn. :)
That makes sense for both 2 or 1. I used 2 in the past before i heard about just using 1 good pair of socks, i am an avid snowboarder so maybe its different per activity.
Bobby Weber 2 pairs of socks will make them move and this will cause blisters or anoying rubbing against the skin. it is better to use one good pair of insulating socks. great channel. saludos desde españa
Yes the Koppen is sold at Dicks sporting goods, I'm not sure if it's their house brand or anything. Seems pretty decent, picked up a pair of lightweight pants and a button down shirt. Probably gonna go back Friday to look at a sweater and jacket they had. Just can't beat the prices, the Rep says they won't be carrying the brand anymore, hence the clearance. If you check Dicks website their outdoor gear is marked down.
Love God Love your channel. Thank you luke. for another informative video. Watching you gear up inspired me to plan a trip. Getting colder here in the mountains of California. Can't wait. God bless you brother.
@Mandy Hammond it's a good idea to start off hiking a bit cool. that way as your body warms up from moving you don't sweat. depending on wind chill I've stripped down to a t-shirt and sweater in the teens when hiking to avoid sweating.
In NewZealand we can buy garments and socks with Possum/Marino wool blend and they are amazing due to the fact that Possom fibre is a ‘ hollow’ fibre which is very unique. The result is an ‘office weight jumper (jersey/pullover)’ which very light and can be worn outside in very cold conditions. A lot of tourists to NZ buy these product for gifts etc. love your vids ( my friend)
Zpacks online has possum glove liners and socks for sale, at a reasonable price. I have them on order, but have never used them. I figured that I would give them a try during my January start, Appalachian Trail thru-hike, 2019.
Mustafa Kamaliddin wool or synthetic. I personally prefer wool because it wicks better and doesn't get as smelly. I usually go really long multi day expeditions, so smell is important in the long haul.
I have got a huge problem of sweating my back when i wearing a backpack.My base layer gets seriously wet and i need to change my clothes in the middle of walk to be exposed to the cold wind and this very uncomfortable. What will be your advice to my problem?
i do polyester as1st to wick sweat, then a wool sweater, fleece jacket and then if its really cold I'll use primaloft pants and jacket on top with a condura outer layer for ourdoors. wool balaclave or beanie and some insulated water proof hiking boots.
I'm going to New York, temperatures around 34 at night and 50 day time. I have some military marine boots with vent holes on the side. Are these boots o.k. for that type of weather?
Im a professional Cess Pool Diver. I planned on buying a Canada Goose Parka for this winter. Then I can hit the yard sales for the wife and kids. What do u think?
You're the first person who's actually put everything on layer by layer to show the process in full. Thank you and great job! Subscribed.
Hey Guy
Thanks so much for this video. Going camping for the first time and taking the kids with us for acouple of nights. So feeling a bit nervous. Your layering presentation was really useful and funny as well ...sexy bod by the way ! 😁😁 Did not know about layering gloves and socks as well as the jackets !! Thank you so much.
A tip for thermal longjohns, top and bottom, is to avoid them being skin tight which is the option most people go for. This allows heat from your body to escape as quickly as it builds up and can restrict movement because the material is tight against your skin. The ideal is loose, but not baggy which makes them much more effective, especially when you are active. I was given this advice by guys who work on the North Sea oil rigs for whom warmth and personal safety is paramount and have taken this advice myself for both camping and sea angling, both ashore and afloat, right through the winter for a number of years and I can assure you, it really does make a big difference to comfort. The proof? At 71 years of age, I'm the only one in my local age group who doesn't suffer from the usual age-related problems with restricted movement and still hike on a regular basis!
Loose fit is as important as the material in cold or hot weather.
sound advice thank you sir. I will apply that for when I set out here in Germany 👍
Hi, from Montreal, Canada. We train outdoors in the winter (obstacle course training). Excellent video; nice details. Just 2 more tips: 1: Wear merino wool base layer and socks and 2: keep a hand warmer right behind your cell phone, so it doesn't freeze and shut down.
Being homeless myself, I invented the 7-layer system for the homeless based on the 3-layer system for trekking/mountaineering . I never use thick or medium clothing, always the thinner versions.
1. Cotton or thermal wool
2. Polyester trekking shirt, very thin
3. Really thin fleece bodywarmer
4. Thin fleece with sleeves
5. Thin synthetic bodywarmer
6. Windstopper with hood
7. Rain jacket, membrane (or poncho)
The windstopper and the rain jacket kind of double for each other, my windstopper is water-resistant en my rain jacket also has windstopping properties.
If you know you'll sweat, use merinowool, otherwise organic cotton is fine.
The bodywarmers create more space at the sides of the shoulders, create padding for carrying, they also help with wicking because they create more armpit-space.
you sure have a lot of expensive gear for a homeless
@@JohnDoe-tt4fm yeah well, I don't live in a 3rd world country like usa, we get social pay so we won't steal. Satisfactory answer for you?
@@andredeketeleastutecomplex tysvm for the tip! from one homeless person to another, stay safe out there 🙏🤗💙
@@JohnDoe-tt4fm you still live with your parents don't you? Only a completely sheltered and inexperienced person would come to a conclusion as poorly thought-out as yours.
I fucking love winter. I dont what it is. When I feel warm and cozy in negative weather it just feels amazing.
The irony of winter clothing is the colder it gets, the more layers you wear...which of course causes sweating under even a basic level of exertion. The trick is to know when to peel off layers if you are moving so you don't over-heat and when to put them back on again. Sweating is deadly in cold weather.
Stan Sambey You got that right my friend.
- Luke
Stambo In the wild awww really...
Stambo In the wild because when the body sweats, the body cools down, in cold weather is not good if the body cool down.
Material plays a role as well, wool is great.
That’s the point of a good wicking base layer...
I regularly go camping in -0 to -20 degree c, yup Canadian here. Everyone at work thinks I'm crazy but I love it.
Great video! One thing though, if your boots are too tight then you won't have good circulation to you feet, and it won't matter how much insulation you have, they'll get cold!
I remember buying a cheap insulated snowsuit some years ago. It was so warm i would start to SWEAT when i walked to the store in 0 degree farenheit..! If you are going out in really cold temperatures, you may want to check these out. You can get them both in insulated versions, and just the shell, without insulation, so you can adjust the temperature with wool sweaters and stuff.
as a newb to backpacking, I wanted to thank you for your vlogs. They really were paramount in getting me up to speed, quickly. happy hiking
The first time I hunted it was 18 degrees. I was wearing jeans, sneakers and a GI flight jacket sitting on a stump. I hated it. Now: Base, lofting and outer layers, sock and glove liners, fleece, infrared cold gear, Thinsulate and Gore-Tex. I am comfortable in the worst Tennessee can offer. Great video. Life saving potentially!
Do not layer socks like that. Get a thicker sock maybe, but if your boot feels really tight you're destroying the loft. Wool isn't insulating, air is, wool holds air. While loft isn't as big of a deal with wool as it with down or synthetic insulation, it still kind of defeats the purpose of layering(adding loft). Wool is a good choice, but don't let it get too tight.
Also wearing many pairs restrains toe movement and blood circulation which is an excellent recipe for cold feet
Aitor Navarro lol my feet are always cold and I wear two pairs of socks all the time. Thanks for enlightening me
Travis sturzl yeah he had a good few points but I disagree on his sock theory myself. I hate the fact most winter gear is expensive, but I spent it on my boots for sure. sorrels, with wool boot liners. one pair of socks only. putting on to many will compact them defeating the porpus. and one thing for sure that needed to be addressed that wasn't, is combating foot sweat in such a system. cold does weird crap to your body, and I have had feet sweat at 19 degrees, and I never have issues with that. wool absorbs up to something close to 90 percent of it's weight in moisture, so while they work, if this is the preferred material, I think you need to bring a lot of pairs to change. but aside from that wasn't a bad video.
Yes Travis your spot on, same thing I said, if someone is going to layer their gear no matter what it is then go up one size, silly mistakes like that could cost people dearly.
I camped in -10F with two layers of wool socks and I started to loose feeling in my toes. I had to bail out but later realized it was a circulation problem. Outside of my shelter, the boots were freezing solid which made the problem even worse. Oversized boots would have been a good solution.
Luke, a good rule to follow to prevent sweating is: when hiking or working be chilly, when sitting or relaxing stay warm !!!
Great video! I have watched a few in preparation for a trip with a number of planned excursions. Yours is the best. Two thumbs up! Thank you.
Work for a non profit where we canvass year round, and we brief new staff on how to layer and be knocking on doors 5 hours a night year round. Not such a big deal compared to backcountry hiking but that's why newer staff don't think about it until they're miserable and why we take time to make sure they're prepared - what they need to be warm and dry, where they can buy stuff around town and where they can find it cheap, etc.
Your video basically a better version of what we do but hitting the same points (starting first with shoes and socks, always! - and layers being key).
Gonna pass this on to our director to bookmark for next year, wouldn't be surprised if she sent this out to folks starting in the winter before their first day on staff. Well done thank you!
For extreme cold I’ve found a “dual” base layer works very well. I use a lightweight synthetic “wicking” base layer and over that I wear the heavy Polartech waffle fleece pants and zip up shirt. When I’m walking or exerting I can unzip the shirt to vent and when I stop I can zip it up. And I wear wool cargo pants they are wind and water resistant ant very warm.
Great info thanks. at 17:03 that dog is like "look at this fragile human depending on so many layers of clothes! I've got everything built-in!" haha
This video is a life saver. Thanks for sharing the correct way to layer up!
Being able to wick up the sweat is what I understand to be the most important thing about layering.. Great content here. I am an electrician and since we are wiring new construction we do not have any heat until it is time to leave. Luckily we stay out of the wind most of the time.
Very nice video. I know many people that are a bit afraid to assume that in 5 degrees are using 3 system layer, most of people like to posing as strongers. Its very nice to see people teaching this things :)
Great video! Back to the basics of layering. I routinely hike in 30-40 below (north of Fairbanks AK) and I layer the same way with the only difference being the boots. All of you complaining about his sock layering; its fine for the temps he is talking about. If you are a couch potato and have poor circulation and low iron you would probably have to layer differently but for those who routinely get out and hike (especially in the cold) everything he said is spot on! Explore on my friend!!
Always makes me chuckle when you call your hats a toboggan, up here in canada (eh) a toboggan is a sled for sliding down a hill and a toque is what you put on your head to keep it warm I think most Americans refer to a toque as a beanie : p
Dreded Haha In the (United States) south and midwest, especially Appalachia where I'm from, they are often called a toboggan but we also call a sled a toboggan too. I've heard that this came about because of a company that sold knit caps, mostly in the south and the company went by the name "Toboggan." I haven't of a Toque before though.
Be well my friend.
- Luke
in my job I have to work two hours everyday inside a 10 F freezer, and I agree with everything you mentioned here .however my fingers tend to get cold even with two cloves plus a mitt , that's why I put 3 hand warmers in each hand . also I noticed fleece jackets do a great job making me warm yet there are not heavy and they keep moisture away . the mask is very important to keep the face warm. thank you great video.
Great info. The onion principle in action. As you sit static you will want all your layers on keeping you warm, but as you move around you will want to peel layers to maintain a no sweat status. when your activity starts to calm down and you feel yourself getting cool add your layers to find that comfort zone.
About to take a trip to Swiss Alps and your video was very very helpful, thank you for making it.
Yeah I suffered from over layering during an over night winter camping. Prepared for the worst and payed for it in lots of sweat, chafing and uncomfortable...live and learn they say.
Thanks for the video. Getting ready for first winter backpacking trip and researching gear and clothing. Appreciate the pointers, got me looking in the right direction. Cheers.
You are welcome Travis!
Enjoy your adventures.
- Luke
Very helpful for someone moving from TX to Minnesota! Thank you!
You’ve come a long way in nine years Luke. Well done.
Wonder how the Patagonia wicking layer compares to Helly Hansen LIFA dry stripe.
For really cold hikes I use the OR Gorilla as it keeps my face from getting frozen and it meshes up to my ski googles well.
Because of you I fell in love with Marmot. I have a 3 way winter coat, gloves and a sweater. Love the heck out of it. Then you showed the outer coat at the end, OMG, Going broke watching your videos. My next thing is have you thought about trying the Army ECWICS 3 system? I am not sure if it can be bought publicly yet. I have used it and didnt think it would work but let me tell you, down to 10 degrees and below it worked like a charm. for what I was doing. Now one thing they (Army) stress is leaving the outer most top garment untucked. Supposedly it allows the air to circulate and help with moister control? your thoughts?
As someone born and raised in Miami, the thought of wearing all this is scary. I can't imagine being anywhere that cold.
esorzinom born in NYC but raised in Miami I just moved to Ohio and this is how I feel lol
Some Guy I could never live in hot weather. And this comes from someone with titanium rods and screws in my spine. I will take the changes of season any day. But that's why they make many flavors of ice cream , to each their own.
esorzinom I am I truck driver from Philly. I always laughed when I would be in Florida and the people would put on winter coats on at 55 degrees and says it cold. Cold is getting out of the truck and having your beard freeze before you make the rear of the trailer. That happened in Minnesota during one of the winters when they broke the record of consecutive days with high below 0.
Come to the prairies of Saskatchewan Canada, with the wind and open area. Hey, get some Canadian surplus gear and your set.
Kindred Watcheston come to the PNW with wind and nonstop freezing rain in the winter. Cold is one thing. Cold and wet sucks
Awesome! Thank you very much for this comprehensive illustrations on layering. I'm going to see the aurora lights soon, was wondering what and how to wear to keep myself warm. So lucky, I found this video before my trip! Thank you again!
Very appropriate content as winters seem to be getting colder. Nothing like getting prepared. Just ordered some nylon outer hiking pants and some gaiters today. Great vid Luke.
Nice man, what brand of pants do you get? Take care brother.
Got a great deal on nylon REI Sahara Convertible Pants. Also ordered an ENO Double Nest Hammock, and I'll order the Bug Net and fly too. Tonight I lucked up at WalMart and found the little 9 ounce 5x7 backpack tarp. Just tied on some shock cord to the grommets. Hey Luke, thanks for the motivation man. I got a NC trail book at REI and gonna pick some easier hikes to start with. Maybe catch you on a trail someday near South Mountain, after I get in shape. LOL. Good luck.
Thanks for the detailed information. I recently lost a lot of weight and am prepping for gastric bypass surgery to help lose the rest. I am NOT used to being cold or being active outside in the winter. This was very, very helpful for me & got me thinking about how to stay warm now that I don't have all that...um...personal insulation. ;o) Cheers!!!
Try a good quality merino wool base layer. I will never go back to a polyester blend again.
I'll stick with the poly thanks.....allergic to wool
@Blank. technically what I'm allergic to is lanolin,so even merino wool is out
@Dean Waller Faux Sherpa & faux Shearling??
@@helenhamblin1468 now that stuff I use all the time,fibre pile fleece is the bomb!
Damn you are right. Got one of these it's fantastic!
That ribz “pack” reminds me of the LBE I had when I was in the army... 40 yrs ago 😆
Thank you so much for this! I'm a Southern California guy and "Clueless" on layering. Not anymore thanks to this video! Also, I really appreciate you going the extra mile to actually show us how you put the gear on. Many thanks!!!
My wife is from Florida I brought her back to my home state of Colorado. She was amazed by the layering concept
Now let's see the same layering system in military surplus gear. Great video
Great video. When I got stationed in Anchorage Ak, I really had no idea about layering.... but I sure had to learn fast. My layering system is near perfect. The only thing is my tights are a little loose and I feel I am not getting the right protection. I have the XGO Tactical Apparel, but I was thinking about switching to the Columbia Omni-Heat tights. I have the top and it is amazing. Once again great video!
Excellent video - Thanks, Luke! I grew up and worked on farms, as well as hunted, in a rural area of west central MN. Many cold winter days and nights to say the least. I learned the concept of layering at a young age and echo all the lessons you've shown here. Thanks again!
Thank you for sharing that brother! I wish you well my friend. Stay warm.
TheOutdoorGearReview is that 15 degrees farenheit or celsius
Thanks for your considerate counsel, I received definite value. Your guidance could entirely save someone's life, and certainly improve anyone's life, it helped me prepare better. God Bless
Oh thank you very much for the information!! Now I can can be fully prepared for the literally freezing 30° degree weather!!
OK dude I live in Saskatchewan how you dressed that is how we dress to go start our car in the morning. Here it gets to - 30 to -50 for 3 to 4 months straight. You need to come see what real cold is all about. IN -10 degree weather we wear t-shirts and shorts waiting for outdoor pools to open.
I live In Minnesota. Here too.
Hi Luke, i've only recently found your videos and got to say - I'm impressed! The reviews and instructional videos you post are very informative. I am 73 yrs and just about to embark on my first camp since I was in my teens. Just a one nighter for an airshow here in the UK to start with. It may lead to more excursions. I'm staggered by the range of tents available in the US. Stores here in the UK seem to stock only a very limited range. I have just bought a Vango Pop 400 for that airshow which will suit for my son and me for that one night, only £70 GDP in a closing down sale. Have you ever reviewed any Vango equipment? You've piqued my interest in the outdoors again and I seem to be watching you more and more on your adventures with a great feeling of jealousy and awe at the fantastic places you can access instead of getting on with my chores. In several vid's you're wearing base layers of various colours with an 'Active' logo on them. My searches have yet to find that brand either through Google or Amazon. Could you point me in the right direction to find that brand please? Good to see you out with your other half. She looks like a 'keeper'. All the best to you both from the UK.
Hey Guy
Thanks so much for this video. Going camping for the first time and taking the kids with us for acouple of nights. So feeling a bit nervous. Your layering presentation was really useful and funny as well ...sexy bod by the way ! 😁😁 Did not know about layering gloves and socks as well as the jackets !! Thank you so much.
As a hunter, having the right clothing and gear is important. I wear boots, and only one pair of wool socks and my legs dont get fatigued after long walks. Also, I find having pants and a jacket that has wool liner and a polyester shell is more than sufficient. The poly shell blocks wind, and is water resistant. I only wear two upper and lower layers and I stay warm for hours in single digital temps and Im just sitting there. I shopped Cabelas and military surplus with gear from Russia etc...
Now that’s very helpful.I hunt in cold weather and don’t dress like that but I will definitely try this.Thanks
Thanks for the information , but I wish you covered some of the new fabrics and their purpose like , merino wool and polygiene and cocano (spelling?) I want to know the combination of synthetics and merino wool and how each prevents or promotes odor. I know not to wear cotton , but the best ratio of wool or synthetics etc. Also the best breathable shells for moisture.
Thanks
Peace
great question!!
Cotton kills
Goretex
here in Ontario, 5 fah. is a nice day. Tight shoes will freeze your feet..last week it was -28 c. (-18) with wind chill -43). Thx for the video
i use over all protection( binnie,socks/darn tough layer,neck gaiter,glove insert)400 merino base layer,and graphine based outer layer,warm during alaska vacation.no problem at.-13°c
Thank you for making this video, it's the best and most informative I've seen on this subject.
Where r you putting your shelter and bedding
I took an outdoor survival class at nightschool back in the early 80's because I needed the credits to graduate in my 5th year of highschool. It seemed like an easy credit that's why I took it. but no, I had to actually learn stuff. My teacher Mr. Hill was a huge wool fanatic. He used to say if it aint wool it's crap! Every test had a wool question or the answer was wool. It became a running joke with the class. his reasoning was that it keeps you warm even if it gets wet. He was actually a really good teacher. He taught us all how to flyfish . He would not let us graduate until we got it down. I actually learned a lot from that crazy sob. I wonder if he's still alive?
Got some down pants at Taiga out of Canada, pricey but crazy warm, also down boots. Always a good idea to wear a shell over the down, not necessarily to keep it dry, but to protect it from rips and snags. Usually it's so cold when I put the down on, I don't have to worry about moisture.
+Rich Allfieldnohit .
Thank you for the Taiga Canada tip. . .
Thats wonderful. . . :)
Every season i buy a few yards of Insul-Brite insulating fabric. I add it to whatever I want to insulate better. I add it to my dogs cold weather gear which significantly adds to it's heat holding ability. There's always scraps left over, trace my shoes insole on a piece Insul-Brite then slip it inside my shoes before the insole. Now my shoes have a barrier in between my feet and the frozen ground.
A very very informative video and glad you have shared it with us all. I do have 2 questions and they are , 1 - will you be comfortable in this clothing at - 40 below zero and as well , what is the total cost of the garments all told including taxes on average ? Thanking you kindly in advance for a reply. Best regards from Northern Canada.
My ski gear is perfect for very cold temp. Starts with: base layer, fleece sweater, down jacket, hellyhansen professional back bowl (that I’m very proud of lol), swany mittens, with 2 sets of had warmers in each, helmet, buff, I have no giggle gap with the Oakley air brakes, and I wear the hood over all this if need be, then for legs it’s, Artica zip down pants with heavy sweat pants underneath with base layer like video, and like any ski racer, super cold feet with boots that can’t fit foot warmers in them and even warm socks, got frost bite once on my feet. It sucked. But yea, skiing in the wind when it’s already -35 (the lowest I have been in that I remember) plus wind chill and the wind from skiing, makes for a cold day on snow. But for skiing your creating lots of heat from moving around so props to him for hiking is super cold stuff.
Could you recommend a setup for MTB riding in 35-45 deg.,wind and occasional drizzle I wear a Under Armour heatgear undershirt,Asics vented polyester and a cheap poly windbreaker.I would like padding on the arm front and some venting in the underarms .The sweating in the armpit's is my big problem with a hood. Thanks great video.
Fleece face mask and aviator cap. In a North Dakota winter, waiting outside for a bus or just walking around, you can get frostbite in 30 minutes or less, especially if its minus 55 F and windy. Its also easier to breathe when the nose and mouth are warmed.
Post-divorce living in Colorado, I am wanting to live my life to the full but no outdoor skills.
Thank you for showing us the basics of clothe layering! Ps. Thank you for talking about boots and socks too!
Awesome review Luke, I'm going to Harriman State Park next weekend for a 2 nighter, I'm expecting it to be really cold. So this helped me put my layering in perspective. Hopefully I layer up right and have no issues. Although I'm prepared for the worst..........I think!!!!
Haha Brother have a great time and be safe out there.
very well explained! thanks!
any suggestions for cycletouring in cold and/or rainy weather? condensation is a problem I experience currently.
found your video very helpful.Thank you for the step by step and detailed pro's and con's of layering. I'm planning to do a solo winter hike next year for the first time. I have done other hikes by the way just not winter. This helps a lot on knowing what to get.After I watched your video I was looking into what that jacket was made of and found this type of material polyamide fabric. Now I'm looking into what materials are used on articles that you mentioned. thanks for a great video
speaking as an eskimo, I only have one layer most of the time, and if it is really cold, then two.
Really enjoyed this vid, always had a problem with picking what to wear or not.
Huge help for a desert person as myself,,, I can go to school and learn in 115 degrees and get home when it's 120 degrees Fahrenheit but not 0 and negative I'm from death valley and even tho it drops I'm not a daily cold hike guy ... we only get fires here in Cali lol
Thanks Luke, great video, very informative. Would you recommend buying larger boots/shoes for winter to make them more comforting to wear with the extra socks?
Hi, can you please put a list of the material you are showing on the video?
i ask the same thing... i can not find the fleece pull over he is wearing...:(
Same i want that fleece too
I would also like a more itemized list to make things simpler but for those that don't know he works with a website and I think his fleece jacket is discontinued closest thing I could find was the Mammut Runbold but it's definitely not the same thing.
Thanks for the tips buddy, I'm going to start being a bell ringer for the Salvation Army this season and it gets cold and slushy where I live. Thank you.
Waiting for his update for those in the Polar Vortex 2019.
Are you talking about DEGREE Celcius or Farenheit?
Fahrenheit. - Luke
i got here just for the warm leg clothing, and already listening to it makes my legs feel warm, i need to get those o:
Still love that swiss army poncho. I think the thing is great for snow and blocks wind, as ridiculous as that thing looks I have worn that in out in blizzards. It adds an incredible layer of warmth as well. Now I know it might not be the best use out on a hike. But the thing is a tent in itself. For something that ridiculous looking its still my favorite piece of gear. If I can't have that then I'm moving out of New England and down south. Cheers!
Typically. If I'm active. I dress light and carry extra layers to throw on when I stop. I did Mt Washington in February. Hiked up with a soft layer, a skin-tight wicking base layer and a light pair of wicking socks. Once I got up to the shelter I layered up. Nice and warm
what brand is your blue t shirt? thanks for all your info.
I'm suprised you didn't have any down insation. Pardon me if you mentioned it in the video. I was having a connection problem and missed about 2 minutes. Could you explain why you didn't choose down?
+Sam Pierson Down is a great choice if you are 100% certain you can keep it dry. When down gets wet it looses all insulation value, and takes forever to dry. If there is any chance you may get wet take wool and/or fleece instead. Fleece will wick moisture better and dry faster. Wool can absorb 30% of its weight in water before it feels damp, and even soaking wet wool retains 80% of its insulation value. Fleece is lighter and cheaper, wool will last longer and is more flame resistant. Each has its pros and cons. Hope that helps, stay safe and warm out there.
Yep, and down is not a good choice in a multi day trip in cold and humid conditions as the performance will quickly deteriorate. Primaloft and similar materials are a great filler for those conditions as they will dry quickly and have pretty good thermal properties even when wet. I live in the UK and down is not adviseable here.
Please suggest me how to minimise winter jacket condensation... Thnx
Hey Luke, So do you have 2 pairs of winter boots ? one that fits with regular socs an one that fits with 2 pairs of heavy socs ?
How do you pick the sizing? Is the 1st layer sized small, and as you go through the outer layer it becomes sized large?
Luke, just curious how long do the night hikes take you? On the average distance you do, what time do you leave and what time do you return?
Our hikes definitely vary in time. The 10 miler that's common for us usually starts at 8:30pm and we're done by 12am. Some times we stop and talk less or more; it varies. One night we did 30 miles in about 10 hours.
Thanks so much for your great video, could you please help to paste the list of your gears so we can easy to prepare/buy? Thanks so much.
Why not a down puffer and then the wind resistant outer layer?
I use Mountain Hardwear Windstopper jacket and pants with fleece underneath. My Arc'Teryx goretex pro shell never traps moisture underneath. Its breathable.
Tip: if you're out in the cold, and you have a smart phone with you, use a hand heat pack in the pocket u keep the phone in to prevent the battery from getting too cold and the phone shutting down.
Great advice, I have heard thou that using 2 pairs of socks doesn't work as well as just using 1, although i don't recall exactly why, i just use 1 pair of Smart Wool socks and they seem to work great!
Great tip in regards to the phones. The cold will killed the battery for sure.
When it comes to socks, I've heard both sides before and I see the points of both. Some say that two pairs of socks cause blisters while others say they prevent them. Some say its preferred because it pulls moisture from the foot to keep the foot warmer. On and On. Ultimately I say go with what you prefer and the conditions of the hike. If it doesn't work for you, live and learn. :)
That makes sense for both 2 or 1. I used 2 in the past before i heard about just using 1 good pair of socks, i am an avid snowboarder so maybe its different per activity.
Bobby Weber 2 pairs of socks will make them move and this will cause blisters or anoying rubbing against the skin. it is better to use one good pair of insulating socks. great channel. saludos desde españa
that makes sense, i wonder if different materials and sizes would reduce movement...
Chretien P. Schatorie Chretien is right about the friction that causes blisters but if you do it correctly, you won't have any issues. ;)
have a weekend trip coming up Friday. we have it warm here in England. over night temp is only -2!!!
Brother have a terrific time and be safe. :)
Very nice video glad I came upon this channel subscribed and will continue watching.
Yes the Koppen is sold at Dicks sporting goods, I'm not sure if it's their house brand or anything. Seems pretty decent, picked up a pair of lightweight pants and a button down shirt. Probably gonna go back Friday to look at a sweater and jacket they had. Just can't beat the prices, the Rep says they won't be carrying the brand anymore, hence the clearance. If you check Dicks website their outdoor gear is marked down.
Love God Love your channel. Thank you luke. for another informative video. Watching you gear up inspired me to plan a trip. Getting colder here in the mountains of California. Can't wait. God bless you brother.
If you did need to use a backpack while hiking in all that, what would you wear?
What he has listed will work with a backpack.
Yes, clear up until you sweat too much and then freeze to death from wearing the wrong kind of backpack with it.
Mandy Hammond
Thus his recommendation (and mine) to LAYER appropriately. :)
@Mandy Hammond
it's a good idea to start off hiking a bit cool. that way as your body warms up from moving you don't sweat. depending on wind chill I've stripped down to a t-shirt and sweater in the teens when hiking to avoid sweating.
Nice! I've been looking to fish all winter. This helps a lot.
In NewZealand we can buy garments and socks with Possum/Marino wool blend and they are amazing due to the fact that Possom fibre is a ‘ hollow’ fibre which is very unique. The result is an ‘office weight jumper (jersey/pullover)’ which very light and can be worn outside in very cold conditions. A lot of tourists to NZ buy these product for gifts etc. love your vids ( my friend)
Zpacks online has possum glove liners and socks for sale, at a reasonable price. I have them on order, but have never used them. I figured that I would give them a try during my January start, Appalachian Trail thru-hike, 2019.
hey, what are the material of the long sleeve/t shirt right on top of your skin.
Mustafa Kamaliddin wool or synthetic.
I personally prefer wool because it wicks better and doesn't get as smelly. I usually go really long multi day expeditions, so smell is important in the long haul.
I have got a huge problem of sweating my back when i wearing a backpack.My base layer gets seriously wet and i need to change my clothes in the middle of walk to be exposed to the cold wind and this very uncomfortable.
What will be your advice to my problem?
I live in Yakutia, Siberia and we usually have temperatures around -40°C from November to February and sometimes in January its -58°C
And you dont need all these clothes. You only wear T shirt and shorts while eating ice cream but your ice cream froze.
i do polyester as1st to wick sweat, then a wool sweater, fleece jacket and then if its really cold I'll use primaloft pants and jacket on top with a condura outer layer for ourdoors. wool balaclave or beanie and some insulated water proof hiking boots.
I'm going to New York, temperatures around 34 at night and 50 day time. I have some military marine boots with vent holes on the side. Are these boots o.k. for that type of weather?
Those are warm weather/desert boots. They are not waterproof or insulated in any way.
34 at night 50 in the day thats warm shorts and a hoodie will work just fine then again it sounds as if you're a west coaster
I was in Northern Cali it was 20 degrees Fahrenheit, I was wearing pants and a simple jacket and I was perfectly warm
Im a professional Cess Pool Diver. I planned on buying a Canada Goose Parka for this winter. Then I can hit the yard sales for the wife and kids. What do u think?