My 3D platformer rankings: 1. Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 2. Super Mario Odyssey 3. Astro Bot 4. Banjo Kazooie 5. Super Mario 64 6. Super Mario Sunshine
1 Froger 1997 2 Jak and Daxter 3 Ratchet and Clank 4 Tak 2 5 Pitfall the Lost Expedition 6 Ghost Runner 7 Rayman 2 8 LBP2 9 Last Guardian 10 Neon White 11 Ape Escape 12 Mario Odyssey
Everything Team Asobi put out so far has been absolutely MAGICAL I hope to see lots more from them in the future, side by side with the best of Nintendo's stuff 🥰
There are constantly many transformations in Odyssey as well, or in Bowser’s fury, or even as back as Banjo Kazooie. It’s a (good) idea that has been utilized many times in platformers.
I definitely agree, but it looks like Astro Bot put a lot more effort into animating the living "collectables" in meaningful ways, bringing them to life more.
0:57: OK, so I guess we just forgot that Rosalina needed Power Stars to fuel the Comet Observatory which is her home she made so she and the Lumas can be a family? Or that Isle Delfino needed Shine Sprites so they could literally survive? Or that Power Moons were needed to power the Odyssey because without them Mario and Cappy can’t go anywhere to stop Bowser from stealing artifacts from around the world to set up the forced wedding?
@@andrewjackson2423 While that suggestion definitely didn't have to be made in such a rude manner, it can be easy to forget the collectibles have a lore purpose compared to a character.
Comparing can be done without saying one of them is bad overall. It's human nature to want to compare similar things. Putting comparisons into words is a necessary step in driving our collective creativity forward.
While in some ways I agree with you, 3D Mario could do a lot of these things better, the advantage of Nintendo having multiple platforming series (Kirby, Mario, DK) is that they don't have to push all their creative ideas into one game or one series. Kirby doesn't have to do what Mario does, who doesn't have to do what DK does, and that's okay, too.
Just because we all like Mario-inspired games doesn't mean it beats Mario, nor makes it better than Mario. We all still love Mario at the very end, and the gaming industry would not be where it is today if it weren't for our favourite plumber. It's best not to get petty to start unnecessary debates regardless.
"Unnecessary debates"? There's nothing wrong with saying "hey, I think Mario might be getting too complacent as a franchise and perhaps these new fresh ideas would help make it cooler". Nobody said you have to stop liking Mario, but it doesn't hurt to recognise when another game does something better.
Yeah... better.... as if all of the past Mario games have become bad only because of ONE made by the competition. OP is right, this debate is unnecessary, it's causing a lot of flames and it's turning Mario into an hated franchise. If you really think that all of the past Mario games are bad just because Astro Bot exists, you guys are completely insane...
1. Rude, but not wrong. Collectible NPCs can add more story if it doesn't bog down development with so many unique characters. 2. Basically your DKC:TF hype. Again, not necessarily wrong. 3. Probably works better with a game that isn't about an established character and world, though viable in small doses. Though having mini shroom creating entire new levels sounds awesome. 4. Bosses can definitely use some spicing up. Personally I'd prefer if instead of repeating pattern with harder gimmicks, have multiple possible phases with the boss's motif. A great personal example of mine is Saltim from Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg, where he uses mirrors he hides with different variations of finding the real him such as chasing or finding the unique one before the damaging starts. 5. Kind of hard to do if you want that contextual world. 6. Feels like hub worlds for Mario fell out of favor for Odyssey making every level a hub in its own right. Definitely could use more personal permanent facilities rather than every world having their own in town.
7. Overall Pacing: Astro Bot doesn't really have many levels that deviate from the normal gameplay, with the exception of the pre-boss battle level and the guest star stage in fourth world. This means that the game has less risk of having levels people dread playing. There are also far less locations that can be considered autoscrollers, bane to speedrunners and explorers alike.
The first point I think is the most contentious. The collectibles I say DO matter in some Mario games, especially when it involves reviving the main setting like in Sunshine and Galaxy. To call the collectibles in Mario “meaningless” is ridiculous.
1:30 >Astrobot copied Kirby's Forgotten Land I know it's a joke but by GOD, IT'S FROM APE ESCAPE! 25 YEARS AGO PEOPLE ALREADY HAD FIGURE OUT THE NEXT STEP OF COLLECTABLES!
Nintendo fans: “Let things coexist! We don’t need to compare them!” Also Nintendo fans: - This video - Comparing multiversus and smash bros - Comparing Arms-a fighting game-to a shooter game (this is literally like saying Astral Chain wasn’t as big as Mario. Its stupid. Arms was a financial success on its own even if it’s not as popular) - Comparing Pokemon and Palworld - Comparing Moderm Zelda titles to Sonic Frontiers
This is silly and you know it. Nobody is even saying what you just said, letting things coexist doesn't mean not comparing them, it means looking at them fairly. Sonic Frontiers was heavily inspired by BOTW in style and tone Palworld was a blatant ripoff Multiversus was a 2v2 Smash clone. Like wtf are these points lol, these things relate to each other. Video games do not exist in a vacuum.
Palworld was not a "blatant Ripoff " Pokemon is a blatant Ripoff of DQV in that sense. Looking at things fairly this game is comparable to Galaxy. @@MochaRitz
Astrobot has better graphics, presentation, charm, style Mario has better game physics, level design, is more fun Mario still on top. But Astro comes very very close
I think Ape Escape did it before Kirby. Kibry used to be collecting stars too. And if you just mean Kirby and The Forgotten Lands, then A.B Rescue Mission came out before that.
Mario's stages are open like Grand, but Astro's stages are linear, meaning they have a beginning and an end. Unlike Mario, which has more than one direction to win the stage, and the end of the stage might be a boss, but it is a place to gather. So Astro is like Spyro. It's true that the linearity is good, but Mario takes 24 hours to play, while Astro took nine hours as a professional, but Mario takes two hours if you're fast, and Astro takes two hours if you're fast. Astro uses up most of the platforming in speed, but Marbo uses up part of the platforming. Mario's level is like challenge stages, while Astro's level is like stages where he hits enemies and does platforming and Spyro stuff (Note: I'm a Sony fan*) Add that Mario's stages are wider and the game's life is longer. For example, the side game is as fun as the main one and it takes up most of the stage. If you choose a straight stage and compete with a boss, there is no problem. Add to them the diversity of ideas like Spyro. In short, Astro is comparable to Spyro 1 and Mario is an advanced version of Spyro 3.
Unfortunately, Sony may reduce support for the game, just like Microsoft did with Crash, and this is because Sony tried its best and did not succeed. @@solonepeon5805
I like that idea. Bowser launching one last attack on Peach's Castle, with all the toads fighting back and Mario leading the charge. It would be a perfect climax, a way to wrap up the whole adventure. And it would show how far the series has come, from one game to the next. That would be one hell of a finale
Super Mario Odyssey was my 2017 GOTY and Astro Bot is my 2024 GOTY. Nintendo should definitely sell Switch 2 with a masterpiece Mario 3D. Also We need more platformers
Good luck building collectible with the same characters throughout every Astro Bot games that's going to be developed in the future. And keeping the same wow factor from the very first game.
Don't worry every one of the games they picked have tons of characters, they can show those. And they haven't even touched on the legacy third party to its full might tbh. They can have more mechanics down the line, Looking forward to a Full Gravity Rush level
@@Pandemoniummoment It is shiny. It makes me want to keep playing the game. A 2d mario game without a star at the end of the level motivate me less than a level with a star at the end. I also like that you can use it to unlock other levels.
Dismenteling every argument; 1. Collectables in Mario games does pretty much the same thing, when you get stars, moons, shiny sprites ir coins like in Mario odyssey they give u access to New levels, áreas, Power ups, costumes etc 2. Recent Mario games This aspect hás already been fulfilled like the mariju**a flowers in Mario Wonder that changes ALL the feeling and gameplay of a level, jumping Hope in New donk city for example, nano kart races in Mario odyssey too, Beach ball and more 3. This one does needs improvement, but whatever, i think the developers keep most of the time implenting ideias out of Boss fights 4. I think Thats not actually needed because Nintendo when It comes for their main titles they implement só many New ideas or bring interesting machanics from other Nintendo titles that packs up ALL the available space 5. This one is Just whatever 6. Mario odyssey did This making all the worlds a hub world
It's also not right to start completely disregard everything good Nintendo has done in the last 40 years only because Sony has made ONE good game in their style. Because this is exactly what is currently happening on the web. People are ditching Nintendo everywhere, even known TH-camrs like AntDude and Nin10dolan. People went completely insane over ONE game. After November I'm quitting gaming, I'd rather die than coming to hate everything I love throught the years only to be accepted by others. If to keep the love I always had for the games I played I have to live alone forever AND ignore everything that will come in the future, even eventual other Nintendo games (that I would end up not enjoying because of the fuss that people have caused)... then so be it...
I absolutely loved Astro bot and as a hardcore Mario galaxy fan this game is must have I hope Nintendo does another galaxy to go head to head with Astro bot
Astro Bot and Super Mario are BOTH GREAT games in their own right. Maybe Mario could evolve, but that said it wasnt made for over 20s. Its a kids game that yes us adults like or even love to play. I disagree with some of the things you said, not all. Thanks for the video!
Point 1: They could put Captain Toad in a level to 'rescue' instead of putting the guy in the overworld to find. And point 5: They could use the characters from point 1 which you have rescued in that level to celebrate with you when reaching the flagpole on the end of a Mario level. And point 6: Another good example of a nintendo game with a good hub world was Diddy Kong Racing on the N64.
I don't. I just see a video that looks at Astro Bot's success and says "so what can Mario learn from this?". After all, Mario isn't perfect and can always grow, right?
Eh, I disagree with Mario needing 'epic' boss battles because the Mario series has never really been about that, even with the RPG or Galaxy games. You want epic final bosses? You can play God of War for that. Or for Nintendo specifically, some Zelda titles can fill that niche.
The Bowser battle in Super Mario 64 has stood the test of time due to its epicness. Sunshine had some interesting bosses as well. The Broodals from Odyssey feel less inspired in comparison. Even the Bowser Jr. battles from Wonder feel less creative compared to something like DKC Tropical Freeze. More inspired boss battles and setpieces can only help the Mario series, not hurt it.
I see where you're coming from but I'd argue that epic boss battles definitely would fit into mario games cleanly. Just because it's something that's been (mostly) lacking so far doesn't mean it wouldn't vastly improve them if it was added.
I am telling you right now I could not be any happier for the Launch Titles of the Switch 2. It is already impressive what they did with a 7 year-old console, so to see the hardware get upgraded and more possibilities to be heavily extended is incredibly exciting
7:49 Did you just sad you want the next game to take place in the Mushroom Kingdom with generic Mushroom Kingdom areas? And you only want toads to collect? That just completely ignores what you said earlier.
I’m almost done with the game (250 bots) and while a really good game it really isn’t on the level of Mario yet for me. But i agree with the boss battles though
I finally played it at the house of a relative of mine who bought a PS5 Slim on vacation and the truth is, it is a great game and it doesn't bother me, since in the nineties we had similar rivals
I think the next 3D Mario game needs two kinds of collectibles. A more valuable collectible for completing a level or major quest, and a more common collectible for hidden secrets scattered throughout levels. The problem with characters being the collectible itself is that the whole game becomes a rescue mission and nothing else. It would be much better if rescuing characters gives you the collectible, which can also be obtained in many other ways.
One downside to collectables being actual sentient beings, is that it makes you feel bad if you miss optional ones. Power stars and shine sprites are awesome to have as hidden collectables, because they are sorta sentient but not like a person.
I say Astro Bot of the PS5 System and Mario of Nintendo are both VERY Similar to each other. I just don't see what's the big difference between them are
1:00 The Astro Bots are not like the stars in Mario. But more like the moons in Mario Odyssey that power up the ship and are found everywhere in a stage.
Why even compare it to Mario? It looks like witch time from bayonetta when they Stop time but just because they did something similar oh well not much is original these days fishing for views. Saying it’s better when it’s its own game and doesn’t even have the same goal has mario
I'm a lifelong Mario fan, and I don't mind this video one bit! It's GOOD for Mario to have competition if it pushes Nintendo to make games even better. Mario can't have competition without the community putting into words WHY another game is competition (e.g. what this video is doing).
The next 3D Mario game is probably going to be an open world game because every leaker and their moms have said that because it's probably going to be about 8 years since Odyssey and Bowser's Fury has probably been a test for an open world 3D Mario game. There probably won't be such a hub world with a lot of secrets because the whole game is a hub world with a lot of secrets
I will choose astro bot over super mario odyssey any day of the week. Astro bot has dethroned mario and is the new platform king. Mario has a lot of good games in it's franchise, and mario has been around for a very long time. But mario is now old and outdated, mario had it's time to shine. Now it's time for mario to step down and step aside and let the new platform king astro bot shine. Out with the old in with the new.
The stars are animated. They spin. Sorry. I wanna play Astrobot based on these plagiarism claims. Well its absolutely obvious isn't it but that's no bad things as those games are great.
The game looks fantastic but i don't like that the protagonist is a robot.Reminds me Eve from wall-e movie.Very common design.And yes all the mechanics are inspired from nintendo games but that;s ok.
I GOT F&#&$NG JUMPSCARED BY AN ADD OF PEPPA PIG THAT USES THE DEMONIC TRAIN SFX THAT GOBBLEGUT MAKES ON ITS 0:00 SECOND! speaking of wich, this game thankfully doesn't uses said demonic sfx when steam pops up
Yes,the Mini Mushroom. Of course that came to mind. But it doesn't fit in organically nearly as well as Astro Bot, which is my point. How it recontexulised areas that doesn't necessarily look like they were built exclusively for tiny size Also the ability to freely change between the two greatly affects what you can do with the size differences, allowing for puzzles and situations not otherwise possible
6 arguable things better while everything else Mario does better. Lol it cannot be beaten, especially not in sales numbers in japan. And the ability to become very small was already done with the blue mini mushrooms. 😂
Alright, enough is enough. I think people are going WAYAYAYAY too far in praising this game. It's nice to have a good platformer from Sony after decades, but saying that now Mario is bad only because Astro Bot exists is overkill. I saw people saying everywhere this on socials, and now Nin10doland, then AntDude and now this guy said the same thing. Are you really saying that Super Mario 64, Galaxy 1 & 2, 3D World and Odyssey have suddenly become bad games just because Astro Bot exists? You guys have completely lost your mind...
I didn't said that at all and I didn't intend for that to be a take away from the video, which is why I say only "6 things" as opposed to dozens of not hundreds that Mario pioneered, and does at least as well as Astro Bot. But that doesn't mean that it can't be improved still
@@grayfox4819 Astro Bot and Mario can exist harmoniously. I love this game but I also love Mario as well. You can love multiple games at the same time you know.
Haven’t played Mario odyssey since its release but it is almost forgettable, hate to compare the 2 but if I had to compare the 2 Astro Bot wins. The crisps clean 4K 60fps gameplay and 80 plus tracks of memorable music, only Mario Galaxy series is comparable.
Nintendo certainly does not need to take notes from a game that shamelessly rips them off, especially when it's arguably the most valuable gaming franchise in the industry.
To be honest, I totally agree. Even though I like the Mario Bros. Games, most of them felt basic and stale after a while. I really want to try out this game and I really miss Donkey Kong Country Returns, and I really want to try Tropical Freeze. Astro Bot is an amazing game and I really hope I can get hands on that game. I have never played Most of the 3D Mario games, I've only played 64 DS and 3D Land, but what you said was completely true that saving other characters during your mission in Astro Bot is better than just Collecting stars too much in the 3D Mario games. Nintendo Needs to improve with 3D Mario.
you know that super mario 64 is 28 years old. And it didn't revolutionize that platform games are the basis of all 3d games. first game with a stick with the character who follows the direction of the stick and changes its speed according to the inclination. first game where you can control the camera etc.. everything that seems obvious to you in a 3d game was invented in Mario 64 look at the other 3D games in 96. everything that is in Astro bot was done in Mario. Will we be talking about astro bot in 30 years?
Why they need to improve 3D Mario when you never played 3D Mario? 64 DS is awful for the controls and 3D Land is 2D/3D. I agree that they could look for inspiration in Astro Bot but the doomsplaining here is killing me 😂😂
My 3D platformer rankings:
1. Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2
2. Super Mario Odyssey
3. Astro Bot
4. Banjo Kazooie
5. Super Mario 64
6. Super Mario Sunshine
1 Froger 1997
2 Jak and Daxter
3 Ratchet and Clank
4 Tak 2
5 Pitfall the Lost Expedition
6 Ghost Runner
7 Rayman 2
8 LBP2
9 Last Guardian
10 Neon White
11 Ape Escape
12 Mario Odyssey
Everything Team Asobi put out so far has been absolutely MAGICAL
I hope to see lots more from them in the future, side by side with the best of Nintendo's stuff 🥰
The mouse suit seems like a more modern iteration of Tiny-Huge Island from Mario 64 and the Minish Cap from Zelda.
And a improved version of the Mini Mushroom
Which is much more imaginative.
30 years ago.
OMGZ a MARIO KILLER!
feels more like the realization of what Nintendo wanted to do but just couldn't. in the end of the day, they work very differently tho
Or Tiny Kong's ability from Donkey Kong 64.
There are constantly many transformations in Odyssey as well, or in Bowser’s fury, or even as back as Banjo Kazooie. It’s a (good) idea that has been utilized many times in platformers.
0:57 That’s actually not true. In Galaxy, the stars are important to the story as they are needed to restore the Comet Observatory.
True
Yeah, saying that stars in Mario games aren't part of the story is bs and shows a high level of ignorance
And in 64, the stars help free Peach from inside the castle.
I definitely agree, but it looks like Astro Bot put a lot more effort into animating the living "collectables" in meaningful ways, bringing them to life more.
@@healthyminds9279 But I’m sure you know exactly what I mean.
The shade they're throwing It's kind of weird.
0:57: OK, so I guess we just forgot that Rosalina needed Power Stars to fuel the Comet Observatory which is her home she made so she and the Lumas can be a family? Or that Isle Delfino needed Shine Sprites so they could literally survive? Or that Power Moons were needed to power the Odyssey because without them Mario and Cappy can’t go anywhere to stop Bowser from stealing artifacts from around the world to set up the forced wedding?
Andre just wanna make Mario look lame compare to Astro Bot, I guess 🙄
@@mariajimenafigueroa233 What? That's really not the point at all lol.
@@andrewjackson2423 While that suggestion definitely didn't have to be made in such a rude manner, it can be easy to forget the collectibles have a lore purpose compared to a character.
the stars are still inanimate objects
@@Anima80 Doesn't change how the context of the objects was ignored.
Can we please stop comparing the two and admit they're both fantastic?
Agree, let's not fight who's better
Comparing can be done without saying one of them is bad overall. It's human nature to want to compare similar things. Putting comparisons into words is a necessary step in driving our collective creativity forward.
This is GameXplain-- these guys will make a Third-World problem out of the beeping noises for a character's low health.
Who cares it’s just games and ppl can compare what they want
@@Aureo-nt1gy But can you people enjoy it without comparing it to Mario every second?
While in some ways I agree with you, 3D Mario could do a lot of these things better, the advantage of Nintendo having multiple platforming series (Kirby, Mario, DK) is that they don't have to push all their creative ideas into one game or one series. Kirby doesn't have to do what Mario does, who doesn't have to do what DK does, and that's okay, too.
Just because we all like Mario-inspired games doesn't mean it beats Mario, nor makes it better than Mario. We all still love Mario at the very end, and the gaming industry would not be where it is today if it weren't for our favourite plumber. It's best not to get petty to start unnecessary debates regardless.
My favorite plumber is luigi
It just makes me wonder if Andre is just making these videos to get a reaction out of us.
Why not just cover Funko Fusion instead of trying to get us tiptapping in the comments with ridiculous videos like these?
"Unnecessary debates"? There's nothing wrong with saying "hey, I think Mario might be getting too complacent as a franchise and perhaps these new fresh ideas would help make it cooler". Nobody said you have to stop liking Mario, but it doesn't hurt to recognise when another game does something better.
Yeah... better.... as if all of the past Mario games have become bad only because of ONE made by the competition. OP is right, this debate is unnecessary, it's causing a lot of flames and it's turning Mario into an hated franchise. If you really think that all of the past Mario games are bad just because Astro Bot exists, you guys are completely insane...
1. Rude, but not wrong. Collectible NPCs can add more story if it doesn't bog down development with so many unique characters.
2. Basically your DKC:TF hype. Again, not necessarily wrong.
3. Probably works better with a game that isn't about an established character and world, though viable in small doses. Though having mini shroom creating entire new levels sounds awesome.
4. Bosses can definitely use some spicing up. Personally I'd prefer if instead of repeating pattern with harder gimmicks, have multiple possible phases with the boss's motif. A great personal example of mine is Saltim from Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg, where he uses mirrors he hides with different variations of finding the real him such as chasing or finding the unique one before the damaging starts.
5. Kind of hard to do if you want that contextual world.
6. Feels like hub worlds for Mario fell out of favor for Odyssey making every level a hub in its own right. Definitely could use more personal permanent facilities rather than every world having their own in town.
So basically astro bot is mario 3D galaxy odissey... Looks awesome!
It isn't odyssey.
Of course not 😂
@@Patrick.Pulchera I mean it isn't inspired that much from odyssey
@@Tal12075 I answered the other guy ^^
I agree with you
7. Overall Pacing: Astro Bot doesn't really have many levels that deviate from the normal gameplay, with the exception of the pre-boss battle level and the guest star stage in fourth world. This means that the game has less risk of having levels people dread playing. There are also far less locations that can be considered autoscrollers, bane to speedrunners and explorers alike.
The first point I think is the most contentious. The collectibles I say DO matter in some Mario games, especially when it involves reviving the main setting like in Sunshine and Galaxy. To call the collectibles in Mario “meaningless” is ridiculous.
Google the definition of "MacGuffin", they are meaningless and only exist to move the game forward.
1:30 >Astrobot copied Kirby's Forgotten Land
I know it's a joke but by GOD, IT'S FROM APE ESCAPE!
25 YEARS AGO PEOPLE ALREADY HAD FIGURE OUT THE NEXT STEP OF COLLECTABLES!
I would have reworded that in hindsight, as Rescue Mission also did the same years before Kirby (which I had mentioned just a few moments earlier lol)
@@GameXplainand Spyro does this too. Like why are we glazing Nintendo for everything here
Nintendo fans: “Let things coexist! We don’t need to compare them!”
Also Nintendo fans:
- This video
- Comparing multiversus and smash bros
- Comparing Arms-a fighting game-to a shooter game (this is literally like saying Astral Chain wasn’t as big as Mario. Its stupid. Arms was a financial success on its own even if it’s not as popular)
- Comparing Pokemon and Palworld
- Comparing Moderm Zelda titles to Sonic Frontiers
This is silly and you know it. Nobody is even saying what you just said, letting things coexist doesn't mean not comparing them, it means looking at them fairly.
Sonic Frontiers was heavily inspired by BOTW in style and tone
Palworld was a blatant ripoff
Multiversus was a 2v2 Smash clone.
Like wtf are these points lol, these things relate to each other. Video games do not exist in a vacuum.
Palworld was not a "blatant Ripoff "
Pokemon is a blatant Ripoff of DQV in that sense.
Looking at things fairly this game is comparable to Galaxy.
@@MochaRitz
Astrobot has better graphics, presentation, charm, style
Mario has better game physics, level design, is more fun
Mario still on top. But Astro comes very very close
The feedback and game juice in AstroBot is something else. The most Satisfying platformer I've played to date, even if not near my favorite
This is the one game I am envious about not owning a PS5
Me to
It should come out on PC eventually.
@@debas3dprobably not for Astro bot. Heavily reliant on PlayStation ips and the dualsense, so no
@@mixiislate !remindme 3 years
It looks like such a great game, but £500 for a console that has had maybe 2 good exclusive games in 4 years... I'm gonna have to say no
I can't go back to Mario after playing Astrobot, it absolutely blew me away.
For "Borrow Ideas," I think you're just describing Mario: Odyssey's whole capture mechanic.
I think Ape Escape did it before Kirby. Kibry used to be collecting stars too. And if you just mean Kirby and The Forgotten Lands, then A.B Rescue Mission came out before that.
Mario's stages are open like Grand, but Astro's stages are linear, meaning they have a beginning and an end. Unlike Mario, which has more than one direction to win the stage, and the end of the stage might be a boss, but it is a place to gather. So Astro is like Spyro. It's true that the linearity is good, but Mario takes 24 hours to play, while Astro took nine hours as a professional, but Mario takes two hours if you're fast, and Astro takes two hours if you're fast. Astro uses up most of the platforming in speed, but Marbo uses up part of the platforming. Mario's level is like challenge stages, while Astro's level is like stages where he hits enemies and does platforming and Spyro stuff (Note: I'm a Sony fan*)
Add that Mario's stages are wider and the game's life is longer. For example, the side game is as fun as the main one and it takes up most of the stage. If you choose a straight stage and compete with a boss, there is no problem. Add to them the diversity of ideas like Spyro. In short, Astro is comparable to Spyro 1 and Mario is an advanced version of Spyro 3.
I'm sure the next Astro game they will touch upon those that you mentioned to further it.
Unfortunately, Sony may reduce support for the game, just like Microsoft did with Crash, and this is because Sony tried its best and did not succeed. @@solonepeon5805
@OFFATHER13 ...but Crash was rockier by a ton.
I like that idea. Bowser launching one last attack on Peach's Castle, with all the toads fighting back and Mario leading the charge. It would be a perfect climax, a way to wrap up the whole adventure. And it would show how far the series has come, from one game to the next. That would be one hell of a finale
0:43 THATS WHAT HAPPENED IN PAPER JAM
True… people forget Paper Jam for what it really is :(
Super Mario Odyssey was my 2017 GOTY and Astro Bot is my 2024 GOTY. Nintendo should definitely sell Switch 2 with a masterpiece Mario 3D. Also We need more platformers
Good luck building collectible with the same characters throughout every Astro Bot games that's going to be developed in the future. And keeping the same wow factor from the very first game.
Don't worry every one of the games they picked have tons of characters, they can show those. And they haven't even touched on the legacy third party to its full might tbh.
They can have more mechanics down the line, Looking forward to a Full Gravity Rush level
0:17 I prefer the stars.
So your telling me you'd rather get the same.reward rather than cool variety of bots from popular games?
@@Pandemoniummoment It is shiny. It makes me want to keep playing the game. A 2d mario game without a star at the end of the level motivate me less than a level with a star at the end. I also like that you can use it to unlock other levels.
Dismenteling every argument;
1. Collectables in Mario games does pretty much the same thing, when you get stars, moons, shiny sprites ir coins like in Mario odyssey they give u access to New levels, áreas, Power ups, costumes etc
2. Recent Mario games This aspect hás already been fulfilled like the mariju**a flowers in Mario Wonder that changes ALL the feeling and gameplay of a level, jumping Hope in New donk city for example, nano kart races in Mario odyssey too, Beach ball and more
3. This one does needs improvement, but whatever, i think the developers keep most of the time implenting ideias out of Boss fights
4. I think Thats not actually needed because Nintendo when It comes for their main titles they implement só many New ideas or bring interesting machanics from other Nintendo titles that packs up ALL the available space
5. This one is Just whatever
6. Mario odyssey did This making all the worlds a hub world
Just because it’s inspired by something popular doesn’t mean it’s a rip-off.
that are some true words
I wish more people would have that mindset
Exactly!
Like anything in media it’s inspired
It's also not right to start completely disregard everything good Nintendo has done in the last 40 years only because Sony has made ONE good game in their style. Because this is exactly what is currently happening on the web. People are ditching Nintendo everywhere, even known TH-camrs like AntDude and Nin10dolan. People went completely insane over ONE game. After November I'm quitting gaming, I'd rather die than coming to hate everything I love throught the years only to be accepted by others. If to keep the love I always had for the games I played I have to live alone forever AND ignore everything that will come in the future, even eventual other Nintendo games (that I would end up not enjoying because of the fuss that people have caused)... then so be it...
I absolutely loved Astro bot and as a hardcore Mario galaxy fan this game is must have I hope Nintendo does another galaxy to go head to head with Astro bot
Astro Bot and Super Mario are BOTH GREAT games in their own right. Maybe Mario could evolve, but that said it wasnt made for over 20s. Its a kids game that yes us adults like or even love to play. I disagree with some of the things you said, not all. Thanks for the video!
Point 1: They could put Captain Toad in a level to 'rescue' instead of putting the guy in the overworld to find.
And point 5: They could use the characters from point 1 which you have rescued in that level to celebrate with you when reaching the flagpole on the end of a Mario level.
And point 6: Another good example of a nintendo game with a good hub world was Diddy Kong Racing on the N64.
DKR had an amazing hub, especially for a RACING game!
I feel this video was made for the mere purpouse of causing flames...
I don't. I just see a video that looks at Astro Bot's success and says "so what can Mario learn from this?". After all, Mario isn't perfect and can always grow, right?
Hey Grayfox where did you see people saying they were jumping ship for Sony? I’m trying to confirm it.
the dualsense / haptic feedback is game changer for astrobot. the interactivity and immersion is real
And here I was thinking that Nintendo don't need any help or tips but there's many good points in this video!
Interesting, well I do hope Nintendo implements some things from Astro bot. Pretty jealous that I can’t play it.
Eh, I disagree with Mario needing 'epic' boss battles because the Mario series has never really been about that, even with the RPG or Galaxy games. You want epic final bosses? You can play God of War for that. Or for Nintendo specifically, some Zelda titles can fill that niche.
Super mario bros on the ds had cool boss battles. We can have some new types
The Bowser battle in Super Mario 64 has stood the test of time due to its epicness. Sunshine had some interesting bosses as well. The Broodals from Odyssey feel less inspired in comparison. Even the Bowser Jr. battles from Wonder feel less creative compared to something like DKC Tropical Freeze. More inspired boss battles and setpieces can only help the Mario series, not hurt it.
I see where you're coming from but I'd argue that epic boss battles definitely would fit into mario games cleanly. Just because it's something that's been (mostly) lacking so far doesn't mean it wouldn't vastly improve them if it was added.
@@alexbrown8900Eh
- All the bosses were too easy
- Junior mini bosses were bad and repetetive
- final boss is pretty underwelming
@@radiorah768Tropical Freeze bosses go for to long
Claim to be a Nintendo news youtube channel and they forgot to make a video about the grand festival in splatoon 3.
Kingping: Not All Ways is About Nintendo, Spider-Man
The exaggerated title shows that he envies Mario, who saved video games.
He is actually a Nintendo fanboy lmao
I am telling you right now I could not be any happier for the Launch Titles of the Switch 2. It is already impressive what they did with a 7 year-old console, so to see the hardware get upgraded and more possibilities to be heavily extended is incredibly exciting
Yeah i wish Mario odessy and mario wonder boss battles were better.
7:49 Did you just sad you want the next game to take place in the Mushroom Kingdom with generic Mushroom Kingdom areas? And you only want toads to collect? That just completely ignores what you said earlier.
No, I said that could be a hub world. Not every level in the game
Sorry. I didn't understand it right.
@GameXplain you said it would be repopulated with toads you find throughout the game lol
@@MochaRitz I specifically said it didn't have to be just Toads, nor did I say he needed to be confined to the Mushroom Kingdom
@@MochaRitz 8:15 he said all the toads. It doesn't matter though to be honest with you.
I’m almost done with the game (250 bots) and while a really good game it really isn’t on the level of Mario yet for me. But i agree with the boss battles though
I think all it's lacking is more depth full dense levels, a longer game.
I finally played it at the house of a relative of mine who bought a PS5 Slim on vacation and the truth is, it is a great game and it doesn't bother me, since in the nineties we had similar rivals
Without mario galaxy...there would be no astro bot. It is a fun game though. Being inspired by mario makes it more fun.
If Team Asobi isn't contracted to Sony, Nintendo should seriously consider a joint project with them. Perhaps a Mario game with them co developing it.
Team Asobi is First Party Studio
I think the next 3D Mario game needs two kinds of collectibles. A more valuable collectible for completing a level or major quest, and a more common collectible for hidden secrets scattered throughout levels. The problem with characters being the collectible itself is that the whole game becomes a rescue mission and nothing else. It would be much better if rescuing characters gives you the collectible, which can also be obtained in many other ways.
One downside to collectables being actual sentient beings, is that it makes you feel bad if you miss optional ones. Power stars and shine sprites are awesome to have as hidden collectables, because they are sorta sentient but not like a person.
Rather than taking notes from astro bot its really ways mario can improve..... by learning from other nintendo IPs
GameXplain, This made me laugh so hard, thanks for sharing!
That's actually the only game that I want to play on the PlayStation 5 right now.
Nintendo should take notes
The stars have eyes therefore they are alive
And not only this game borrow mechanics, visuals and gameplay ideas from Odyssey, but also from Sunshine and certainly Galaxy
Sounds like Mario could learn a lot from Kirby 👍🏼
0:48 Your speaking facts! :D
I say Astro Bot of the PS5 System and Mario of Nintendo are both VERY Similar to each other. I just don't see what's the big difference between them are
The jump mechanic for one. The games play very differently
1:00 The Astro Bots are not like the stars in Mario. But more like the moons in Mario Odyssey that power up the ship and are found everywhere in a stage.
Only seeing this video made me want to play Astro Bot so badly
🤓 In Super Mario Bros. Wonder you were saving Poplins who were in danger and had slightly different personalities.
Remember super princess peach. When peach saved the toads
04:40 Didnt Mario had the mini mario power up in New SMB & an entire zelda game used the concept of shrinking.
For the first point collect toads with all unique outfits like paper Mario.
*Miyamoto didn’t like that*
Why even compare it to
Mario? It looks like witch time from bayonetta when they Stop time but just because they did something similar oh well not much is original these days fishing for views. Saying it’s better when it’s its own game and doesn’t even have the same goal has mario
Mmmm... Several of Andre's ideas sound like Origami King.
I did show it at one point haha
I'm a lifelong Mario fan, and I don't mind this video one bit! It's GOOD for Mario to have competition if it pushes Nintendo to make games even better. Mario can't have competition without the community putting into words WHY another game is competition (e.g. what this video is doing).
That's a great attitude to have! Thanks for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed the video :)
Oh yeah! I always prefer competition in the products I enjoy it allows me to move to either or enjoy both! (If you know what I mean.)
Exactly!
The next 3D Mario game is probably going to be an open world game because every leaker and their moms have said that because it's probably going to be about 8 years since Odyssey and Bowser's Fury has probably been a test for an open world 3D Mario game. There probably won't be such a hub world with a lot of secrets because the whole game is a hub world with a lot of secrets
The robots are basically the same Jinjos from Banjo Kazooie
I will choose astro bot over super mario odyssey any day of the week. Astro bot has dethroned mario and is the new platform king. Mario has a lot of good games in it's franchise, and mario has been around for a very long time. But mario is now old and outdated, mario had it's time to shine. Now it's time for mario to step down and step aside and let the new platform king astro bot shine. Out with the old in with the new.
you know....astro bot is my new favorite game mario odyssey is second
The stars are animated. They spin. Sorry. I wanna play Astrobot based on these plagiarism claims. Well its absolutely obvious isn't it but that's no bad things as those games are great.
¿Quién vino por el tweet de N Deluxe?
We could do this with other platformers too.
The backpedaling is crazy
The game looks fantastic but i don't like that the protagonist is a robot.Reminds me Eve from wall-e movie.Very common design.And yes all the mechanics are inspired from nintendo games but that;s ok.
I think Nin doesn't need to learn anything from Astro Bot & it would be very wise for Nin to keep making newer ideas for Mario & not copy others.
Learning and copying are 2 different things
Really? Hahaha😂.... God...
Ok no Mario is way better especially since it’s the original idea
next mario:
all toads will dress up like astro bot
*eye roll*
While we're at it,
How Astro Bot is better than Tetris
I GOT F&#&$NG JUMPSCARED BY AN ADD OF PEPPA PIG THAT USES THE DEMONIC TRAIN SFX THAT GOBBLEGUT MAKES ON ITS 0:00 SECOND!
speaking of wich, this game thankfully doesn't uses said demonic sfx when steam pops up
Love these ideas!!!
A great hub world is worst take, Observatory in galaxy is peak Hub world, Observatory >>> Gruntilda's Lar >>>>>>> astro bot hub
Nah arguably astro rewards you alot more
@@RocketSlime no. and cry
Back up your claim, because it's devoid of anything to do other than collect some lives. It has nice atmosphere, but it's empty.
4:32 Mario has a tiny mushroom option lol did the person writing the script not know that?
Yes,the Mini Mushroom. Of course that came to mind. But it doesn't fit in organically nearly as well as Astro Bot, which is my point. How it recontexulised areas that doesn't necessarily look like they were built exclusively for tiny size
Also the ability to freely change between the two greatly affects what you can do with the size differences, allowing for puzzles and situations not otherwise possible
That just makes mario small, it doesn't change the perspective like it does in astrobot
@@GameXplain okay I see what you mean
6 arguable things better while everything else Mario does better. Lol it cannot be beaten, especially not in sales numbers in japan. And the ability to become very small was already done with the blue mini mushrooms. 😂
Alright, enough is enough. I think people are going WAYAYAYAY too far in praising this game. It's nice to have a good platformer from Sony after decades, but saying that now Mario is bad only because Astro Bot exists is overkill. I saw people saying everywhere this on socials, and now Nin10doland, then AntDude and now this guy said the same thing. Are you really saying that Super Mario 64, Galaxy 1 & 2, 3D World and Odyssey have suddenly become bad games just because Astro Bot exists? You guys have completely lost your mind...
I didn't said that at all and I didn't intend for that to be a take away from the video, which is why I say only "6 things" as opposed to dozens of not hundreds that Mario pioneered, and does at least as well as Astro Bot. But that doesn't mean that it can't be improved still
Honestly, aside of the boss battles, I don't think that the things you listed are something that Mario really needs for a better experience...
@@grayfox4819 You can enjoy BOTH Astro Bot and Mario at the same time.
@@grayfox4819 Astro Bot and Mario can exist harmoniously. I love this game but I also love Mario as well. You can love multiple games at the same time you know.
Oh yeah, go tell that to all the people who sold their Switches and came to hate all Nintendo games only because Astro Bot became a thing...
Where's the review video?!
The best on this game there is Mario Odyssey
Astro Bot is goty！Mario？no one bought it at all🤣😂
He didn't play Mario Odyssey. Astro bot is Mario Odyssey PlayStation skin.
With lesser MARIO SUNSHINE mechanics.
Just...no. that's factually wrong lol
What about sales?
Haven’t played Mario odyssey since its release but it is almost forgettable, hate to compare the 2 but if I had to compare the 2 Astro Bot wins. The crisps clean 4K 60fps gameplay and 80 plus tracks of memorable music, only Mario Galaxy series is comparable.
It's just you
I didn't even know astro bot existed till now.
Nintendo certainly does not need to take notes from a game that shamelessly rips them off, especially when it's arguably the most valuable gaming franchise in the industry.
Even because, boss fights aside, Mario doesn't really need the things the guy listed to be better as it is right now...
Recency bias tbh
At least someone out there still says the thing that needs saying.
This is the most annoying hype wave in quite a while.
Based video
I prefer the stars to the robot rescues.
Astro Bot's personality >>> Mario the last 15 years. 🗿
playstation love fun games
I totally agree 100%. But I'm sure Nintendo will never listen like they never have. Prove me wrong. ...Please prove me wrong.
Get lost.
To be honest, I totally agree. Even though I like the Mario Bros. Games, most of them felt basic and stale after a while. I really want to try out this game and I really miss Donkey Kong Country Returns, and I really want to try Tropical Freeze. Astro Bot is an amazing game and I really hope I can get hands on that game. I have never played Most of the 3D Mario games, I've only played 64 DS and 3D Land, but what you said was completely true that saving other characters during your mission in Astro Bot is better than just Collecting stars too much in the 3D Mario games. Nintendo Needs to improve with 3D Mario.
I don't think you've played enough 3D Mario games to totally agree. 🤷♂️
@@1JAM229 I did watch videos of the other 3D Mario Games and that's the reason I agree.
you know that super mario 64 is 28 years old. And it didn't revolutionize that platform games are the basis of all 3d games. first game with a stick with the character who follows the direction of the stick and changes its speed according to the inclination. first game where you can control the camera etc.. everything that seems obvious to you in a 3d game was invented in Mario 64 look at the other 3D games in 96.
everything that is in Astro bot was done in Mario. Will we be talking about astro bot in 30 years?
@ignatiousmary8413 Watching gameplay videos is nowhere close to experiencing the games for yourself.
Why they need to improve 3D Mario when you never played 3D Mario? 64 DS is awful for the controls and 3D Land is 2D/3D. I agree that they could look for inspiration in Astro Bot but the doomsplaining here is killing me 😂😂
No
Wow a lot more cussing in this video.