Just because PD may not have been as physically as imposing as the rest of the diamonds, but she was still just as powerful. She also shows extreme intelligence an manipulation skills. I would even goes so far as to say her miniscule size gave her an advantage. She looks fragile and sweet, and has also been eager to prove herself to the other diamonds. She may not have been the same size as the rest, but she wasn't wrong. If I had to describe her, I'd use the same phrasing as Bismuth: PD is a deepcut. The deeper you cut a gem, the more brilliant it shines, and has a lot more color/pigmented look to it. It's richer; almost more pure.
Yeah I think Rebecca Sugar is trying to share that our differences are what make us strong. That's her message. Amethyst is defective but she comes off as more capable than normal amethysts. So even if PD is defective, it definitely doesn't make her weak like Homeworld would say/think.
well i cant say if jasper's are supposed to be stronger than amethysts. but that would mean we cant take jasper seriously when she said amethyst could have been like her. any way what yall think about this? (copy past) i think she's defective because she's stupid. gems come out knowing what to do and how to do it. how come pink diamond needs to be thought what to do? that scene when she's just slapping buttons. whats that all about. wouldn't she be programmed with knowledge on how to work that stuff?
She reminds me of most stereotypes about short people; despite her appearance and physical looks of youth and innocence, but strong, and very concentrated in strength and power. (Also the whole “closer to Hell” thing, cause of the whole manipulation, cunning thing. Sorry, that’s less serious than the rest.) that’s just my idea, and I had the same feeling with Amethyst and PS (Off Color Saph, I cannot spell.)
I always thought of Pink as an off color, considering her other diamonds are in fact the primary colors while Pink is not The color pink is more of a secondary color, a mixture of white and red, an off color per say, so the fact of Pink being an off color gem would just makes sense, at least in my perspective it does
Jessielyn Farnum I thought it was interesting when you said Pink is a mix with red and white..that'd give support to the theory that White Diamond Muddled with Pinks creation...but who knows ;,)
to me, it looked like the diamond authority's color scheme revolved more around the additive secondary colors (cyan, magenta, yellow) considering the colors seemed to line up more cleanly, but this is also an interesting take!! also raises more questions for white diamond because rgb makes up white light (fusion??) also also dreamonic's theory is cool too :00
Also, Red Diamonds are the most Rare Diamonds that exist. They could have been thinking an even more large and amazing diamond, and got an overcooked pink one instead of a groundbreaking Red one.
i remember watching a video, i think it was this one, but it said something about her emerging AFTER her mural was painted, but i also realized that those circles in the mural represent the planets they have colonized, meaning the mural was painted AFTER she recieved earth. the two circles in her mural represent earth and the moon, and in everyone elses mural represent different planets
Well they say that a gems physical form reflects their mental state so what if Pink Diamond is just small because she had a child like state of mind at first? We have never seen Blue or Yellow Diamond when they were first made so what if they were smaller as well but grew and changed as their minds did?
P_O_T_A_T_O -_- Kinda but not on the same level. Amethyst can only hold her shapeshifting abilities for a few hours max while Pink Diamond is able to do it for literal *years* at a time. Amethyst is actually defective and I suppose the same could be said for PD, but their abilities are in two different league.
Is this why Steven said *"If it were me, I'd really want to be a giant woman"* when Pearl and Amethyst formed Opal? Was that one of Pink's feelings surfacing? She could've felt that way because of how blue and yellow treated her because of her size and/or because of her adoration for them.
I'm thinking that Pink is the product of the dwindling resources that Peridot mentioned. (If that is an actual thing and Homeworld wasn't lying about it.) It stands to reason that making a diamond cost far more than other gem types.
SliceofOtaku what if she caused era 2/ was the beginning of. Like the diamonds decided to push their luck in creating another leader and instead of say a red diamond pink came out showing how bad the situation had deteriorated to
Holly Blue said that Blue Diamond has been maintaining the human zoo since the dawn of era 2. Which would mean that Pink Diamonds shattering took place before era 2. Era 2 was caused be Pink diamonds shattering.
Undernet That makes sense! That would also help explain why White would be larger (if she is) for she might have come from a time where resources were much more plentiful.
I feel like Pink Diamond’s court represented the misfits.... if she was a misfit, then those they deemed flawed went to her. That would explain why everyone, including other gems liked pink bc she took them in when they would have otherwise been destroyed. Like Jasper said, u have to fit in the diamond authority. Without pink, there is no place for those flawed. Idk, thats just what im 🤔 thinking right now. Even if pink wasnt a planned defect, they still could use her to toss aside the gens the other diamonds dont want.
RedVulture Drawing I don't think that is the case, because Pink Diamond staging her shattering would possibly result in the destruction of her "useless" and leaderless defective gems, who would no longer have a place. I doubt that Pink would put all of her defective wards at risk by cutting herself out of the picture. The exception I guess would be if she thought that Blue or other Diamonds would be merciful toward them, or that they could somehow take refuge on Earth.
Zachary Knutsen True, I kinda wonder what kind of court they would give pink. The other diamonds saw her as the weakest link, so I pictured her having the leftover gems the other diamonds didn’t want or need. Idk, I imagined that when I wrote the previous comment. You’re right 😂✊
My mini theory is that Pink Diamond isn’t defective-but the other diamonds make her feel defective; that they make her feel like an inferior to them. She isn’t defective-but the other diamonds already have their own images of flawlessness imprinted into them at “birth”-and, I’m unsure if they feel as though that she fits their view of perfection as a diamond-thus why they treat her more as a child that a peer/equal So she could, potentially, see herself as defective or useless-like she can’t fit the shoes of being a diamond/strict Commander Akin to how Steven couldn’t see himself as able to fit/step into Rose’s shoes as the leader of The Crystal Gems-due to his already perceived view of what his mother was-a great, strong, dependable, and intellectual leader But, after some time, he saw that his mother wasn’t as great or as amazing as everyone painted her to be And, going back to Pink Diamond/Rose-maybe she saw the same thing as Steven did-she May have seen that the diamonds weren’t perfect-that they just put up the front of being perfect to their subjects within order to maintain power over gem kind And, upon her seeing this, she decided enough was enough And tried leading her way Which would be a really unique way for Steven to go-instead of trying to be Pink/Rose-he could lead The Crystal Gems his way-and try to make peace with Homeworld-instead of Pink’s view of just staying far away from it
Well, in "Jungle Moon" she was about the same height as Stevonnie. But in "A Single Pale Rose" we suddenly see her twice the height of Pearl. She definitely grew.
I think diamonds grow with their maturity level and experiences like Steven did in So Many Birthdays. He did a Diamond like thing with a human twist to it.
I think one of the theory I still enjoy is that Pink was supposed to be Red Diamond, as well as normal sized like Yellow or Blue. If she came out smaller than expected and a different color, then the defective narrative would make more sense but...We don't have any evidence of that. If there's another flashback or something that explains the process of how to make a diamond or how specifically Pink was made, Then That would really help!
I believe that Pink Diamond was the most powerful of the Diamond Authority tetra; she can heal cracked and possibly shattered gems; she can control the rate of friction at which she fell based on emotion aka floating; she can also bend plant life to her will while also giving it humanoid form; all yellow can do is shoot lightning from her fingers INQUISITIVELY; I mean does yellows lightning even have a purpose other that wide range combat; does she have a power that may be suitible for HOMEWORLDS well-being other than violent occasions such as war or invasion; blue is able to bend peoples emotion to her will, but again what good can it do for the well-being of HOMEWORLD; only Pink Diamond and of coarse possibly White Diamond have powers that may prove useful to the difficulties yet to come on future colonized worlds.
Eddie Morano then again when you think about it her Shield was able to block the corruption of three diamonds which to me sounds broken that Shield is overpowered
That’s really unlikely. Sure, Pink is probably one of the most powerful gems we’ve seen on the show but we never really saw what the other diamonds are really capable of. Yellow was able to instantly poof a gem with her lightning and Blue was able to affect two diamonds (and all the minor gems) with her emotional powers. Both of those were clearly just a fraction of their real powers. I’m sure we’ll see even more OP feats from them soon enough now that PD is revealed to be Rose Quartz. Pink might not be the most powerful diamond out there but out of all of them, she is definitely the most versatile (and the one with the most potential) based on Steven’s own feats.
Hope they make a cool Steven universe game. Would definitely play. Pink diamond would have support powers with her shield, healing tears, floating, and stuff like that Yellow diamond is all about glass cannon dealing high damage quickly and effectively Blue diamond is a stunner, being able to reduce defenses and immobolize the target with her tears field spell XD That's kinda how I always saw the diamonds
I'm surprised that people are not talking about the size change of Pink between Jungle Moon and A Pale Rose. Do Diamonds grow as they age? White is believed by the fandom to be the oldest and she is the biggest. Blue and Yellow are nearly the same size and depicted as the older sisters of their bratty younger sister Pink that White probably maded them babysit. We believe that the Diamonds popped out of the ground like the rest of the Gems just more powerful. Maybe they don't and that is a reason why they are more powerful. Why it was unthinkable that they could be shattered.
Maria Elena It can't be just art style. In Jungle Moon we have a known height for where Pink punched in relation to how tall Stevonnie is. We know how tall Stevonnie is to Pearl and how tall Pearl is to Pink in A Pale Rose. Pink has gotten tall in that time.
Earnest Brown I know that, I agree with you that is a very weird to be an error despite how inconsistent the show may be at time, but I only pointed why I think it is dissmised so much
Earnest Brown thank you I was also thinking this I believe that diamonds can grow over time and once they reach a certain age of over a least a few thousands of years they do not grow no more because they are different from normal gems they don't have to follow the normal like how Pink Diamond was able to make her gemstone look like a rose quartz gem for thousands of years and no one knew the difference I believe. remember when pink diamond was in the desert with the lions that might be a small tabit that while she was out there alone she might've form back into original form because she is growing still and probably stopped before Steven was born cause she reached her max height. We really don't know what diamonds are capable of they are beyond that and white is probably above the normal diamonds because she is the first diamond probably the original gem but I digress just a lot of gaps in this and I can't prove it but this seems to me a possible headcanon.
The height was inconsistent even from one section to another of Jungle Moon. First, when YD had the appearance of Connie's mom, she seemed to have the height of a pearl. The next scene, when the appearance of yellow changed, she was taller and similar to recent episodes.
You know, I actually have a theory that Pink Diamond is not defective. Maybe she was supposed to be that size. And I think the diamonds size is caused by gem placement. The higher the gem placement, the taller. And since White Diamond has the highest gem placement, she is the tallest diamond. And Yellow and Blue are the same size because they have the same gem placement. And since Pink Diamond has the lowest gem placement, she is the smallest, thus therefore, making it seem she's defective.
They might mean that she was formed more recently than Yellow or Blue and therefore is still rather childlike, which is backed up by her behavior in flashbacks or just the scenes between Pink Diamond and Blue Diamond, for example.
Based on the size difference of pink diamond before and after getting her first colony I think it could be possible that the more colonies you have the bigger you get. I mean, white diamond is the largest and has the most colonies, blue and yellow are the same and have the same amount of colonies. Pink was the youngest and still immature, at some point she got earth, grew bigger and also seems a bit more mature (at least she is not throwing tantrums like in "jungle moon").
I think that since Pink Diamond was small the diamonds almost shattered her on sight but then decided that they should watch over her at all times. I think that was one of the reasons why she wanted to take the presence, person of rose Quarts.
Well she is still a diamond. Defective or not, she is still a more “powerful” gem compared to the rest of the gems so it would make more sense that she still has many powers.
I think she is small on purpose. White Diamond is at the top of the insignia, and she is the largest Diamond. Yellow and Blue are both on the middle, and seem equal in both size and power. Pink is on the bottom, so her being small and having less authority than her fellow diamonds makes sense.
3:40 wouldn't it be Yellow and Blue that are defective in that example? Since they are smaller and White was presumably the first, and therefore standard, diamond?
Pink Diamond *is* defective. She's defective by Homeworld's standards. It's not *just* her short stature. It's also in her character design. She is designed to look like a clown: The poofy hair, the poofy pants, the little poofs on her shoes. Clowns wore that. Another way she could be deemed defective is in her character. She's impulsive, a little (or very, depending on how you look at it) selfish, and doesn't always hold herself accountable. By what we've all seen, it's implied that Diamonds are meant to be calm, and collected. Diamonds are the leaders of conquest, and when you look at PD she doesn't fit the bill. On top of that, the other Diamonds have known PD longer than we have, and if they're treating PD this way then there must be something wrong with her, in their eyes. *However*, just because PD is defective, it doesn't diminish her narrative in any way. In fact, I think that the message is actually that "being defective doesn't diminish a person's importance or their brilliance." Another message could be that "you can be special in your own way; you don't need to conform to society's standards (Homeworld's standards)."
I said that it's not just in her appearance. Her personality is too impulsive, and unpredictable for the conformist mindset that is Homeworld culture. We kind of have to take all of this into account anyway because the devil is in the details. Based on PD's overall design and the fact that her personality is nothing like any of the Homeworld gems, we can safely assume that she was meant to be written as wrong in the eyes of Homeworld. Besides, there's more evidence backing up the theory that she's defective than evidence against it. One could argue that she's super powerful, and because of that she's not defective. But that doesn't really prove that she isn't...? Of course she's powerful, she's a *Diamond*. Diamonds are meant to be more powerful than the average gem.
I thought of something, this isn't a theory but a bit strange, On the episode Jungle Moon she was a bit whiny and acted like a child, wanting a planet. In the episode Rose's room, Steven wanted to play mini golf with the gems but they said they were busy and it "wasn't fair". Pink Diamond said it "wasn't fair" that she couldn't get what she wanted, in the end of the episode of Rose's room, Steven says "I always get what I want." I don't know what to think of this but it is kinda strange.
I disagree with the idea that PD being defective/off-colored would take away from her message. So many other characters have done a lot and grown a lot in the series despite their more obvious defects and I think that's what the crew is trying to get across here--especially since we got Paddy, who has shown value despite what she does. Times like these, I remember when people thought Rose saying "my pearl" was looking down on Pearl as if she owned her, but Rebecca Sugar later confirmed it to be the opposite with the possessive "my" being a form of respect. Can never be too sure :) Another thing I was thinking about in response is... Veering off to another less concrete argument that relies on symbolism: the NFPA diamond has red in it and the diamond insignia closely resembles that, so that kind of has me wondering if Pink Diamond was supposed to come out differently. We also know unusually small size to be correlated with overcooking, like with Amethyst, so I don't think that PD's size might just had to do with the crew just wanting to make her Rose. Also pink diamonds IRL have warped structure from compression. Another thing is Yellow and Blue have obvious small flaws in their personality--with gems all saying the diamonds are perfect beings and the show illustrating ways they exactly AREN'T, I'm super curious to see White Diamond, because in real life the yellow and blue color of diamonds is due to the presence of impurities. Is White Diamond really perfect??? Haha
(copy pasted) i think she's defective because she's stupid. gems come out knowing what to do and how to do it. how come pink diamond needs to be thought what to do? that scene when she's just slapping buttons. whats that all about. wouldn't she be programmed with knowledge on how to work that stuff?
Amethyst could be considered defective, because she has a smaller physical form than the rest of the famethysts. That said there's actually a lot of variation amongst the famethysts, there's short ones and tall skinny ones, slightly off-color ones, etc. Maybe rose/pink just had sympathy for those ones as well.
We’ve never seen White diamonds face reaction. Like in that one silhouette of them seeing that Pink had been shattered? White Diamond is always shown face forward. White Diamond could have given Pink the idea of being ‘Rose’.
Well considering that on Jungle moon she seems to have been smaller given the location of the fractured window, how she was nearly twice the size of Pearl in a Single Pale Rose, and how we've seen Steven change age and size due to his self perception and maturity, it's entirely possible Pink diamond was still growing in size as her perception and the other diamond's perceptions of her changed..
I think she’s a defective/off diamond is because she isn’t a primary color like white blue and yellow. She’s two colors mixed in. Plus it you look at their hands at 3:45 you see whites pointing upwards maybe showing how she’s the strongest and better, so are yellow. I believe yellows hands are pointing up because she thinks when white is gone she’ll be in charge. Blues hands are up and down like she’s in the middle. Looked down upon but still is treated right. Then pinks, hers is down and she is being looked down by everyone
Yeah well it seems like pink diamond her point was never to rule colonies and she didn’t need to be that big. So she was really just made to be a little sister to the other diamonds to be some like she’s almost like their pearl.
What if pink was ment to be small just like white was probably supposed to be bigger. even the gem placement makes sense. white is at the top pink is at the bottom and blue and yellow are at the sides. When their gems are put together like this they resemble a shape of a diamond White Yellow Blue Pink
The thing I find most interesting about Pink is that all of her powers eg. healing, re/animation of organic life, floating, empathy, dream connectinf with other minds and her shield I want to know what all of that says about the Pink Diamond that exsisted as soon as she came from the ground and the difference it makes compared to Rose Quartz Also the fact that Pink has all of those powers proves that the Diamonds have WAY more powers for us to see and I can't wait!!! :D Oh and I know this has nothing to do with the video or my comment but I just wanted to point out that in the trial when Blue Diamond let off her emotional aura a lot of people say that Lars wasn't affected by it because he was human or the bubble, and more people (as far as I know) are saying because he's human, but that just doesn't make sense since YD's destabilization ability is based purely on the form of a gem which based on the destabilizers that peridot used on steven won't work because of his organic human form BD's empathy abilities are purely based on emotion which obviously both humans and gems have so with all that in mind the reason Lars was not affected by Blue Diamonds aura is the Yellow Zircon's bubble placed around his head it shielded his mind from BD's empathy
I have a theory that Pink's powers are affected by her emotions, like Steven's are. So maybe Pink's stature is so small because she is made to feel small by the other diamonds. My theory for this is furthered by the thought that the human part of Steven has mutated this ability so that instead of changing size based on his feelings, Steven changes in age.
*Well yes it pretty obvious she was* as for the others I don't know guess size differs because look at Jasper and the other Quartz's they the same rank but she's a Hulk size bigger
Yesika Narvaez I also agree about size white was huge and the yellow and blue and smaller than white and then pink is smaller then blue and yellow but that doesn't mean she is defective
Why is being smaller a disadvantage to a diamond? Being smaller makes amethyst defective because she is suppose to be a powerful soldier. A diamond is not a soldier.
I mean I still don't think there's really enough evidence of to definitively say that she was defective, but I do think that would be an interesting idea that would be really to see developed. Maybe it could even be used to help pacify Sapphire.
Actually there is a moment where you do see gems rotating during transformations. Watch the episodes with Topaz when she combines in the episode I Am My Mom. During the fight between Connie and Steven versus both Topaz, there is a part when both the Topaz gems are on the inside when they are split apart and are standing side by side, but when they combine, they rotate so they are on the outside but still on the same side they started. They rotated then and there, and not only that, if a singular Topaz had their gem on they're right, it was on the left, opposite side for the fusion when formed. That is it. That small detail which, perhaps hinted at the fact that gems can rotate and change their position.
Can gems grow? This is a question I've had in my mind for some time. When you look at Jungle Moon, you can easily see that the glass breaks at the same level Stevonnie would punch. Isn't Rose Quartz bigger than Garnet, and Rose smaller than her Diamond form? Pink diamond is still quite big compared to Pearl. I'm trying to compare sizes here, and something doesn't add up...
I feel that PD may be defective in a way of saying, she was ment to be not pink, and not small, I feel she was expected to be taller, like YD and BD, and ment to be red, as to match the primary colours BD and YD have, but, something went wrong, and she didn’t appear as WD expected, but, The diamonds acted like this was the norm, and kept it that way, despite knowing PDs Obvious differences and flaws.
I'd say it's more with the fact that she's younger than the other diamonds, like amethyst in the flashbacks? While she's still short she has clearly grown from that time, plus, pink diamond clearly had the mentality of a rebellious child
What if White made Pink as a companion and as a source of entertainment? Everything about her appearance and personality suggest cuteness, playfulness, and innocence, in stark contrast to the other Diamonds' intimidating and imposing stature. The color pink itself is often associated with frivolity. It is also suspect that she would need to learn to be a Diamond, since, as she said herself, "Gems burst out of the ground already knowing what they are and that is what they are, forever." She existed for several thousand years without performing her "intended role." Add onto this that Pink never mentions White and consider why Yellow and Blue doubted her. I think that all four Diamonds knew what Pink was, which is why White treats Pink's actions as a joke, why Yellow and Blue don't think that she can run a colony, and why Pink is so desperate to escape her life with White by any means necessary, either as an independent Diamond or as a rebel leader on Earth. She is desperate to have her own identity, free from White's oppression. This also explains her recklessness, impulsivity, and lack of empathy. She was made to entertain a needless being who sees everyone and everything as resources and tools. As to why White would allow her a colony, i would say that White let it happen because she thought it would be funny watching her adorable companion try to do what she does. She never expected that Pink could succeed as a true diamond; Pink is a glorified pearl.
You opened a new set of questions: are the diamonds actually one of a kind each? How Homeworld makes sure not more diamonds are produced by mistake? Have off-colors diamonds been produced in the past?
Another thing I wanna say is the gem shape is strange compared to yellow and blue, and also we can assume that she should have powers considering all the diamonds we’ve seen so far have shown them (I believe the corruption wave was a combining of yellow, blues and whites “special abilities” ). She’s also much less mature than the other diamonds, which is something we also see in amethyst, so I’m thinking maybe defective sized gems may have personality differences too? I’m just throwing stuff out there, but your theory is pretty solid
She’s neither defective or off color. If anything else she is unique. She is empathetic towards everyone and sees the beauty in things. But then again the color pink does represent love and compassion so she definitely displays those characteristics of the color pink. So yeah she’s great
Omg it makes sense how she was able to stay looking like a rose quartz. She didn’t use shapeshifting powers. When she came out of her gem she chose the form of a rose quartz.
If she's defective, her size difference from the other diamonds is so dramatic, even more dramatic than white's from what we've seen, it is possible that the crewniverse did not intend to portray her as a "normal" diamond; in fact wanted to show how different she was. The other explanation would be if White was meant to be large, Blue and Yellow medium sized, and Pink small, in equivalence to their measure of control and power. I would accept either explanation though.
it COULD be due to dwindling resources. Diamonds must take a massive amount of resources, White Diamond was theoretically the first gem made on Homeworld: MANY resources. Yellow and Blue next, large, but smaller than White. Pink, long after three diamonds and countless lesser gems, she has less to take from the planet and thus turns out smaller. They simply had less resources.
I kinda figured a White vs Pink comparison could be like a Jasper vs Amethyst comparison--like, how Jasper came out different from the standard in the opposite way, as "the Ultimate Quartz".
I theorized that pink was a off color because of how she acted, but for her size I thought she was small purely because she was the youngest. The other diamonds are far older then her, based of their murals, so their size reflects that. Maybe with diamonds they are larger then other gems from "birth" by default but as they "age" they grow in size which would explain the size differences between the diamonds. But since characters are drawn inconsistently this is size theory isn't really concrete.
In comparison to Stevonnie and Pearl, Pink definitely grew between the Jungle Moon flashback and the Single Pale Rose flashback. She was almost three times Pearl's size in A Single Pale Rose, whereas in Jungle Moon she was the same height as Stevonnie (about a head taller than Pearl). So, seeing as diamonds in reality grow as they get older, I definitely think the same happens in SU with the gems.
Can you do a theory on mixed color gems (greens and oranges, etc) being mixes of personalities of two diamonds (peridot as a mix of yellow and blue, jasper as a mix of pink and yellow, etc)? Great theory by the way!
She reminds me of most stereotypes about short people; despite her appearance and physical looks of youth and innocence, but strong, and very concentrated in strength and power. (Also the whole “closer to Hell” thing, cause of the whole manipulation, cunning thing. Sorry, that’s less serious than the rest.) that’s just my idea, and I had the same feeling with Amethyst and PS (Off Color Saph, I cannot spell.). I’m short too, so yeah... that’s just me, from my perspective, I’m not trying to insult anybody, so please don’t get mad!!! Please and thank you!
I think there is something to be said for Pink being defective, I personally have a theory that she was never meant to come into existence, that white diamond made yellow and blue to help her run her gem empire as an empress over two queens would. But Pink somehow formed on her own. And because of this isn't in the same "perfect design" blue and yellow had to be made by white diamond. Which would give an interesting narrative on the idea of "you were an accident". Because Pink ends up creating her own worth outside of the small role yellow and blue "graciously" allowed her to have. Creating her own path and being seen in such an amazing light by the other gems.
I believe that pink was supposed to be red diamond and as strong as white but white didn’t want anyone as strong as her so while pink was being created she probably did something to her so she would come out smaller and defective.she probably did this to the other diamonds as well but on a smaller scale
Surely yellow would be off-colour too, ‘cause the primary colours are red, blue and green, and blue is the only one who fits, apart from white cause she’s like all colours in one
If we are considering her size than Pink Diamond is most likely overcooked like Amethyst which could explain why she was able to stay shifted as Rose Quartz for so long. Speaking of this I have a theory that the reason that Pink?Rose had to give up her physical form to have Steven might have something to do with her holding her shapeshifting for so long because like Amethyst said in one episode holding a shape for an extended period of time can put strain on the gem something Peridot indirectly confirmed by referring to shapeshifting as a significant use of energy. Considering that Amethyst's ability to shift is due to her being an overcooked gem giving Pink a similar classification would explain a lot about how she can appear as Rose Quartz for so long.
I don't think she was a defective diamond, I think she was a different kind of diamond which no one has seen before. And due to that she seems to be defective. For example, Amythest was overcooked but her gem is still an Amythest gem and I think this is good evidence because if Pink was overcooked or "defective" she would still have the normal diamond. Therefore, I thinks she was a different form of diamonds.
I don’t think she was defective she just had to grow or maybe that’s just the form she took on when she was first created, Yellow and Blue aren’t as y’all as White
Because amethyst couldn’t stay looking like jasper too long so it makes sense for PD to choose the form of a rose quartz (while hiding her diamond on her stomach) and not change back after being poofed.
The only thing I can't understand is why on Stevonie dream, Pink and Stevonie has the same size, but when Pearl show her memories for Steven, and later when Pink first Shape Shifted on Rose, the size is really different. Gems can't get old, but I do remember on the Greg Flashback when he told Steven how he met his mom, Amethyst was smaller than she is now. So, I don't know if it's inconsistency or if Gems with certain potential just can Reform taller than before sometimes. At some point, Pink was smaller, and then just shape shifted to be bigger? That would make sense IF Rose isn't exactly the same amount of mass of Pink's body since Pink is really thin and Rose is more large in comparation. I don't know, sometimes I get really angry with those things, I wish just one person to make the drawings for the animations sometimes.
The way i understood it is that, blue diamonds get their color from boron, and yellow diamonds from a special nitrogen compound. While pink diamonds are pure white diamonds, which were overheated and pressured. This reminds me of amethyst, and how she is an overcooked gem. Mabey pink was made as a replacement gem for white diamond, but then she was overcooked so badly, that she became small(pressured) and pink. That would make her an off-color, as we have white diamond, who's the norm, and pink diamond, who's anything but the norm. Also pink's gem is more on the white side. Her pink is not as vivid, and in reality, the more vivid the pink is, the more valueble it is.
For me the size is just a side effect of having a off cut gem... PD doesn't have the same kind of cut as the other 2 diamonds we've seen, so unless white diamonds gem is unique compared to Yellow and Blue then it just means that the cut of a diamonds gem doesn't matter. It is possible, if PD's gem cut is wrong, that she was the only diamond created by a diamond. We can fairly assume that they are artificial constructs and didn't just evolve from a mcguffin.
well she is still have powers that both yellow and blue doesn't have, she can somehow connect with organic life, she can restrict the dead and heal bot injuries and not fully defective gems but I'm foreseeing steven doing that in the future, and can produce a shield which can withstand the power of the three diamonds combined together she has a power far more stronger than her size
Saying that PD is not an off color because she was the only pink diamond should necessarily be ruled out because Amethyst is small compared to other amethysts but they also come in different sizes, builds, and colors just like the zercons came in different colors if that makes sense. I may be wrong but that's was just something I thought of.
I think, since Diamonds aren't "programmed" like normal gems, they don't come out already knowing everything, hence the treatment from the other diamonds. As you said, each diamond is their own standard. They have to create that standard by themselves. I don't like to think she's defective, though, for the same reasons you brought up. And I don't think such a diamond would even be seen by other gems if they were truly defective. I think the other three would have destroyed her if that was the case. Like the other defective gems on Homeworld (that didn't escape).
i still think she may have been a deep cut like Amethyst, since there's a bit of parallels in terms of their powers and such, and plus ir someone on tumblr pointed out that her gem was indeed a deep cut irl so lmao so in a sense i don't think she was defective or off color, as much as she might've been in the ground for too long like Amethyst
I have a whole theory on "defective" gems and why some gems like Amethyst are considered defective but ones like Peridot aren't. I don't rlly want to write an essay in the comments section, but I might make a Tumblr post, or a video on it.
The diamonds were made to reflect the 4 diamond logo. The white diamond on the logo is at the top so White was made the tallest, the yellow and blue diamonds are side by side so Yellow and Blue were made the same height, and the pink diamond is at the bottom so Pink was made the shortest. It was just an aesthetic choice made by whoever it was that made the diamonds. It could also be more than just visual with the diamonds being given a level of power that matches, or even determines their size.
When people say 'Pink is defective because she's small', do they believe White Diamond to be defective, because she's taller than the other Diamonds? Or do they believe that Yellow and Blue are defective because they're smaller than White?
i mean i thought it was pretty obvious pink was off-colored considering the 3 primary colors are blue, yellow, and red which then altogether make white. what’s more weird is pink’s pearl (our pearl). pearls are most likely supposed to resemble their diamond the most with their gem placement as well. could her pearl have been white’s originally, and then white gave her as a gift?
I have just always thought of them like: White it the Biggest and holds absolute rule over everything, Blue and Yellow are like half her size and share half rule (?), Pink is like half Blue and Yellow's size and holds little to no rule at all.
What has been bugging me, is that the physical appearance of a gem is just a projection of light which is chosen by the gem. Like Amethyst can turn into a pearl projection, or a garnet projection and thus become bigger, or smaller. She has been seen turn into a Jasper. Wouldn't it be able for gems to turn into Pink Diamond or for Pink Diamond turn into another diamond. Wouldn't she be able to make herself bigger?
I feel like White and/or Blue and Yellow wanted to test out a diamond who could grow OR they had also grown once upon a time and are just so old it seems like they've always been big. There are so many questions!!!
I honestly think since rose was pink diamond and had a child maybe diamond can have children and pink is the child of blue diamond (blue seems to be a moaning mother) and maybe pink was still so young but felt she was responsible enough to have her own planet. This is only if my other theory isn't true
I find the answer to this obvious. When Amethyst had a more childlike mentality, she had a smaller form. She has grown, though only very little since then. Pink has very obviously grown in size since Jungle Moon. She is taller in A Single Pale Rose. White Diamond being largest because she is oldest makes perfect sense. Yes, gems come out fully formed and with a purpose, but the crewniverse makes a point of going off of science for actual gems and crystals-loosely-and real world crystals _grow._
Unfortunately pink's size varies between her appearances. She nearly twice the size between jungle moon and single pale rose. In addition to how her actions are coded to be more child like and then teenager like. It would appear that as she matures in mind her body follows suit. That might be a trait of diamonds specifically but it's unclear. It would definitely explain the "crystal" part of the organization she created as crystals do grow over time like she wanted to even though she seemed unaware of it.
I think part of the reason there was a difference between Pink and the other diamonds has to do with their colonies. White Diamond controls the most colonies along with Homeworld itself, making her the strongest diamond. Yellow and Blue don't control as many colonies as White, but they still control enough to make them powerful. However, Pink Diamond has never controlled a colony until she was given Earth. The fact that she only ever had one colony may explain her size and amount of power as well as her authority on Homeworld.
There may have not been enough resources to make a huge pink diamond and for how rare the gem is...I feel her height is just materialization of how some rare gems are smaller as we can guess that diamonds are not truly rare except for particular colors. Splitting yellow diamond and blue diamond in this case is both a cultural and interesting stand point because yellow diamonds technically are in abundance on another continent and compared to blue and white diamonds. Blue and white diamonds are also more controlled than yellowed diamonds in the trade. The exception of pink being so rare that we could say pink diamond is being controlled by all the diamonds of trade to try and be in control (take care of her). But that is my theory on the matter.
Another fact is that pink comes from the mix of white an red.. So if you take the idea she is defective, it could be a signe... But may be she is not defective but different and perfect on her difference. Remember be different is what makes someone powerful. And Rebbeca understand it, she thinks be different make us awesome . So maybe pink is the most powerful but as always anyone could see it on her. And the fact that blue feels really sad for pink could be cause her was always thinking bout pink as small in many ways and when she desappers blue felt that she take pink down.
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Just because PD may not have been as physically as imposing as the rest of the diamonds, but she was still just as powerful. She also shows extreme intelligence an manipulation skills. I would even goes so far as to say her miniscule size gave her an advantage. She looks fragile and sweet, and has also been eager to prove herself to the other diamonds. She may not have been the same size as the rest, but she wasn't wrong. If I had to describe her, I'd use the same phrasing as Bismuth: PD is a deepcut. The deeper you cut a gem, the more brilliant it shines, and has a lot more color/pigmented look to it. It's richer; almost more pure.
K.G. Donathan I like this
Yeah I think Rebecca Sugar is trying to share that our differences are what make us strong. That's her message.
Amethyst is defective but she comes off as more capable than normal amethysts. So even if PD is defective, it definitely doesn't make her weak like Homeworld would say/think.
well i cant say if jasper's are supposed to be stronger than amethysts.
but that would mean we cant take jasper seriously when she said amethyst could have been like her.
any way what yall think about this? (copy past)
i think she's defective because she's stupid.
gems come out knowing what to do and how to do it.
how come pink diamond needs to be thought what to do?
that scene when she's just slapping buttons. whats that all about.
wouldn't she be programmed with knowledge on how to work that stuff?
K'hari Jordan but Amethyst wasn't know about her purpose before capture Peridot.
She reminds me of most stereotypes about short people; despite her appearance and physical looks of youth and innocence, but strong, and very concentrated in strength and power. (Also the whole “closer to Hell” thing, cause of the whole manipulation, cunning thing. Sorry, that’s less serious than the rest.) that’s just my idea, and I had the same feeling with Amethyst and PS (Off Color Saph, I cannot spell.)
I always thought of Pink as an off color, considering her other diamonds are in fact the primary colors while Pink is not
The color pink is more of a secondary color, a mixture of white and red, an off color per say, so the fact of Pink being an off color gem would just makes sense, at least in my perspective it does
Jessielyn Farnum I thought it was interesting when you said Pink is a mix with red and white..that'd give support to the theory that White Diamond Muddled with Pinks creation...but who knows ;,)
to me, it looked like the diamond authority's color scheme revolved more around the additive secondary colors (cyan, magenta, yellow) considering the colors seemed to line up more cleanly, but this is also an interesting take!! also raises more questions for white diamond because rgb makes up white light (fusion??)
also also dreamonic's theory is cool too :00
Also, Red Diamonds are the most Rare Diamonds that exist. They could have been thinking an even more large and amazing diamond, and got an overcooked pink one instead of a groundbreaking Red one.
Could there be Red Diamond with a higher rank than White Diamond?🤔
Red Diamond 👀
i remember watching a video, i think it was this one, but it said something about her emerging AFTER her mural was painted, but i also realized that those circles in the mural represent the planets they have colonized, meaning the mural was painted AFTER she recieved earth. the two circles in her mural represent earth and the moon, and in everyone elses mural represent different planets
Well they say that a gems physical form reflects their mental state so what if Pink Diamond is just small because she had a child like state of mind at first? We have never seen Blue or Yellow Diamond when they were first made so what if they were smaller as well but grew and changed as their minds did?
Uh Huh that's a nice theory, but I doubt it
Bickslow'sLover Harlequin Yeah I know, just something to think about though.
Other gems don't grow. Diamonds could be different but there evidence of this.
Bickslow'sLover Harlequin this theory applies for two character, it applies for amethyst.
P_O_T_A_T_O -_- Kinda but not on the same level. Amethyst can only hold her shapeshifting abilities for a few hours max while Pink Diamond is able to do it for literal *years* at a time. Amethyst is actually defective and I suppose the same could be said for PD, but their abilities are in two different league.
Is this why Steven said *"If it were me, I'd really want to be a giant woman"* when Pearl and Amethyst formed Opal?
Was that one of Pink's feelings surfacing?
She could've felt that way because of how blue and yellow treated her because of her size and/or because of her adoration for them.
I'm thinking that Pink is the product of the dwindling resources that Peridot mentioned.
(If that is an actual thing and Homeworld wasn't lying about it.)
It stands to reason that making a diamond cost far more than other gem types.
True enough.
SliceofOtaku what if she caused era 2/ was the beginning of. Like the diamonds decided to push their luck in creating another leader and instead of say a red diamond pink came out showing how bad the situation had deteriorated to
Holly Blue said that Blue Diamond has been maintaining the human zoo since the dawn of era 2. Which would mean that Pink Diamonds shattering took place before era 2. Era 2 was caused be Pink diamonds shattering.
Undernet That makes sense! That would also help explain why White would be larger (if she is) for she might have come from a time where resources were much more plentiful.
Now this could be an accurate theory! Someone do a video on this
I feel like Pink Diamond’s court represented the misfits.... if she was a misfit, then those they deemed flawed went to her. That would explain why everyone, including other gems liked pink bc she took them in when they would have otherwise been destroyed. Like Jasper said, u have to fit in the diamond authority. Without pink, there is no place for those flawed. Idk, thats just what im 🤔 thinking right now. Even if pink wasnt a planned defect, they still could use her to toss aside the gens the other diamonds dont want.
RedVulture Drawing I don't think that is the case, because Pink Diamond staging her shattering would possibly result in the destruction of her "useless" and leaderless defective gems, who would no longer have a place. I doubt that Pink would put all of her defective wards at risk by cutting herself out of the picture. The exception I guess would be if she thought that Blue or other Diamonds would be merciful toward them, or that they could somehow take refuge on Earth.
Aii iiA True... Ill keep that in mind. 😉😊
It's more likely that this WILL be the case.
But homeworld shatters misfit gems.
Zachary Knutsen True, I kinda wonder what kind of court they would give pink. The other diamonds saw her as the weakest link, so I pictured her having the leftover gems the other diamonds didn’t want or need. Idk, I imagined that when I wrote the previous comment. You’re right 😂✊
My mini theory is that Pink Diamond isn’t defective-but the other diamonds make her feel defective; that they make her feel like an inferior to them. She isn’t defective-but the other diamonds already have their own images of flawlessness imprinted into them at “birth”-and, I’m unsure if they feel as though that she fits their view of perfection as a diamond-thus why they treat her more as a child that a peer/equal
So she could, potentially, see herself as defective or useless-like she can’t fit the shoes of being a diamond/strict Commander
Akin to how Steven couldn’t see himself as able to fit/step into Rose’s shoes as the leader of The Crystal Gems-due to his already perceived view of what his mother was-a great, strong, dependable, and intellectual leader
But, after some time, he saw that his mother wasn’t as great or as amazing as everyone painted her to be
And, going back to Pink Diamond/Rose-maybe she saw the same thing as Steven did-she May have seen that the diamonds weren’t perfect-that they just put up the front of being perfect to their subjects within order to maintain power over gem kind
And, upon her seeing this, she decided enough was enough
And tried leading her way
Which would be a really unique way for Steven to go-instead of trying to be Pink/Rose-he could lead The Crystal Gems his way-and try to make peace with Homeworld-instead of Pink’s view of just staying far away from it
I think as a Diamond she would have grown as she gained more colonies. After acquiring Earth she seemed to grow.
Man...if thats true and white Diamond was out ruling more planets shes probably THRICE as big from when she showed up on Earth to make corruption.
Well, in "Jungle Moon" she was about the same height as Stevonnie. But in "A Single Pale Rose" we suddenly see her twice the height of Pearl.
She definitely grew.
I think diamonds grow with their maturity level and experiences like Steven did in So Many Birthdays. He did a Diamond like thing with a human twist to it.
Same
This is the best theory yet!
I think one of the theory I still enjoy is that Pink was supposed to be Red Diamond, as well as normal sized like Yellow or Blue. If she came out smaller than expected and a different color, then the defective narrative would make more sense but...We don't have any evidence of that. If there's another flashback or something that explains the process of how to make a diamond or how specifically Pink was made, Then That would really help!
I believe that Pink Diamond was the most powerful of the Diamond Authority tetra; she can heal cracked and possibly shattered gems; she can control the rate of friction at which she fell based on emotion aka floating; she can also bend plant life to her will while also giving it humanoid form; all yellow can do is shoot lightning from her fingers INQUISITIVELY; I mean does yellows lightning even have a purpose other that wide range combat; does she have a power that may be suitible for HOMEWORLDS well-being other than violent occasions such as war or invasion; blue is able to bend peoples emotion to her will, but again what good can it do for the well-being of HOMEWORLD; only Pink Diamond and of coarse possibly White Diamond have powers that may prove useful to the difficulties yet to come on future colonized worlds.
Eddie Morano then again when you think about it her Shield was able to block the corruption of three diamonds which to me sounds broken that Shield is overpowered
That’s really unlikely. Sure, Pink is probably one of the most powerful gems we’ve seen on the show but we never really saw what the other diamonds are really capable of. Yellow was able to instantly poof a gem with her lightning and Blue was able to affect two diamonds (and all the minor gems) with her emotional powers. Both of those were clearly just a fraction of their real powers. I’m sure we’ll see even more OP feats from them soon enough now that PD is revealed to be Rose Quartz. Pink might not be the most powerful diamond out there but out of all of them, she is definitely the most versatile (and the one with the most potential) based on Steven’s own feats.
I hadn't thought about that before; You make a good point. :)
Hope they make a cool Steven universe game. Would definitely play.
Pink diamond would have support powers with her shield, healing tears, floating, and stuff like that
Yellow diamond is all about glass cannon dealing high damage quickly and effectively
Blue diamond is a stunner, being able to reduce defenses and immobolize the target with her tears field spell
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That's kinda how I always saw the diamonds
yellow can also alter a gem’s physical form
I'm surprised that people are not talking about the size change of Pink between Jungle Moon and A Pale Rose. Do Diamonds grow as they age? White is believed by the fandom to be the oldest and she is the biggest. Blue and Yellow are nearly the same size and depicted as the older sisters of their bratty younger sister Pink that White probably maded them babysit.
We believe that the Diamonds popped out of the ground like the rest of the Gems just more powerful. Maybe they don't and that is a reason why they are more powerful. Why it was unthinkable that they could be shattered.
Earnest Brown most just must think is the inconsistent art style
Maria Elena It can't be just art style. In Jungle Moon we have a known height for where Pink punched in relation to how tall Stevonnie is. We know how tall Stevonnie is to Pearl and how tall Pearl is to Pink in A Pale Rose. Pink has gotten tall in that time.
Earnest Brown I know that, I agree with you that is a very weird to be an error despite how inconsistent the show may be at time, but I only pointed why I think it is dissmised so much
Earnest Brown thank you I was also thinking this I believe that diamonds can grow over time and once they reach a certain age of over a least a few thousands of years they do not grow no more because they are different from normal gems they don't have to follow the normal like how Pink Diamond was able to make her gemstone look like a rose quartz gem for thousands of years and no one knew the difference I believe. remember when pink diamond was in the desert with the lions that might be a small tabit that while she was out there alone she might've form back into original form because she is growing still and probably stopped before Steven was born cause she reached her max height. We really don't know what diamonds are capable of they are beyond that and white is probably above the normal diamonds because she is the first diamond probably the original gem but I digress just a lot of gaps in this and I can't prove it but this seems to me a possible headcanon.
The height was inconsistent even from one section to another of Jungle Moon. First, when YD had the appearance of Connie's mom, she seemed to have the height of a pearl. The next scene, when the appearance of yellow changed, she was taller and similar to recent episodes.
You know, I actually have a theory that Pink Diamond is not defective. Maybe she was supposed to be that size. And I think the diamonds size is caused by gem placement. The higher the gem placement, the taller. And since White Diamond has the highest gem placement, she is the tallest diamond. And Yellow and Blue are the same size because they have the same gem placement. And since Pink Diamond has the lowest gem placement, she is the smallest, thus therefore, making it seem she's defective.
James Koschmann or maybe she's the smallest cause she's the youngest
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They might mean that she was formed more recently than Yellow or Blue and therefore is still rather childlike, which is backed up by her behavior in flashbacks or just the scenes between Pink Diamond and Blue Diamond, for example.
I think your theory is actually right and more believable rather than that the whole PD is defective
Based on the size difference of pink diamond before and after getting her first colony I think it could be possible that the more colonies you have the bigger you get. I mean, white diamond is the largest and has the most colonies, blue and yellow are the same and have the same amount of colonies. Pink was the youngest and still immature, at some point she got earth, grew bigger and also seems a bit more mature (at least she is not throwing tantrums like in "jungle moon").
Literally watching your videos is helping me during this torturous hiatus.
I think that since Pink Diamond was small the diamonds almost shattered her on sight but then decided that they should watch over her at all times. I think that was one of the reasons why she wanted to take the presence, person of rose Quarts.
If she was so defective then how does she has so many powers
Shadow Heart Maybe she’s just defective in height?
Well she is still a diamond. Defective or not, she is still a more “powerful” gem compared to the rest of the gems so it would make more sense that she still has many powers.
+Talie McCarroll I dont really believe her to be defective but yes there are many points and evidence leading to that she may be defective
Shadow Heart Yeah, I disagree with the fact of her being defective, I kinda want her to be an off-colour.
Sometimes defective Gems are worse in one way but better in another.
Amethyst is smaller but has a really powerful whip (as told by bismuth)
I think she is small on purpose. White Diamond is at the top of the insignia, and she is the largest Diamond. Yellow and Blue are both on the middle, and seem equal in both size and power. Pink is on the bottom, so her being small and having less authority than her fellow diamonds makes sense.
3:40 wouldn't it be Yellow and Blue that are defective in that example? Since they are smaller and White was presumably the first, and therefore standard, diamond?
I love how u always think outside of the box :)
Pink Diamond *is* defective. She's defective by Homeworld's standards. It's not *just* her short stature. It's also in her character design. She is designed to look like a clown: The poofy hair, the poofy pants, the little poofs on her shoes. Clowns wore that. Another way she could be deemed defective is in her character. She's impulsive, a little (or very, depending on how you look at it) selfish, and doesn't always hold herself accountable. By what we've all seen, it's implied that Diamonds are meant to be calm, and collected. Diamonds are the leaders of conquest, and when you look at PD she doesn't fit the bill.
On top of that, the other Diamonds have known PD longer than we have, and if they're treating PD this way then there must be something wrong with her, in their eyes. *However*, just because PD is defective, it doesn't diminish her narrative in any way. In fact, I think that the message is actually that "being defective doesn't diminish a person's importance or their brilliance." Another message could be that "you can be special in your own way; you don't need to conform to society's standards (Homeworld's standards)."
KittyG that doesn't prove pink is defective.
KittyG that doesnt show that she is defective though, just because her appearance is unique to herself doesnt mean she is defective
I said that it's not just in her appearance. Her personality is too impulsive, and unpredictable for the conformist mindset that is Homeworld culture. We kind of have to take all of this into account anyway because the devil is in the details. Based on PD's overall design and the fact that her personality is nothing like any of the Homeworld gems, we can safely assume that she was meant to be written as wrong in the eyes of Homeworld. Besides, there's more evidence backing up the theory that she's defective than evidence against it.
One could argue that she's super powerful, and because of that she's not defective. But that doesn't really prove that she isn't...? Of course she's powerful, she's a *Diamond*. Diamonds are meant to be more powerful than the average gem.
I thought of something, this isn't a theory but a bit strange,
On the episode Jungle Moon she was a bit whiny and acted like a child, wanting a planet. In the episode Rose's room, Steven wanted to play mini golf with the gems but they said they were busy and it "wasn't fair". Pink Diamond said it "wasn't fair" that she couldn't get what she wanted, in the end of the episode of Rose's room, Steven says "I always get what I want."
I don't know what to think of this but it is kinda strange.
I disagree with the idea that PD being defective/off-colored would take away from her message. So many other characters have done a lot and grown a lot in the series despite their more obvious defects and I think that's what the crew is trying to get across here--especially since we got Paddy, who has shown value despite what she does. Times like these, I remember when people thought Rose saying "my pearl" was looking down on Pearl as if she owned her, but Rebecca Sugar later confirmed it to be the opposite with the possessive "my" being a form of respect. Can never be too sure :) Another thing I was thinking about in response is...
Veering off to another less concrete argument that relies on symbolism: the NFPA diamond has red in it and the diamond insignia closely resembles that, so that kind of has me wondering if Pink Diamond was supposed to come out differently. We also know unusually small size to be correlated with overcooking, like with Amethyst, so I don't think that PD's size might just had to do with the crew just wanting to make her Rose. Also pink diamonds IRL have warped structure from compression. Another thing is Yellow and Blue have obvious small flaws in their personality--with gems all saying the diamonds are perfect beings and the show illustrating ways they exactly AREN'T, I'm super curious to see White Diamond, because in real life the yellow and blue color of diamonds is due to the presence of impurities. Is White Diamond really perfect??? Haha
A Defective Gem is a Off Color gem
Edit: "Detective".... I hate you google
Fuco defective* and yeah, you’re right
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i think she's defective because she's stupid.
gems come out knowing what to do and how to do it.
how come pink diamond needs to be thought what to do?
that scene when she's just slapping buttons. whats that all about.
wouldn't she be programmed with knowledge on how to work that stuff?
Amethyst could be considered defective, because she has a smaller physical form than the rest of the famethysts. That said there's actually a lot of variation amongst the famethysts, there's short ones and tall skinny ones, slightly off-color ones, etc. Maybe rose/pink just had sympathy for those ones as well.
Oh no... detectives are off color humans!!! 😂
SuperT the detectives are triggered
Slice, what if she was supposed to be Red Diamond? It would make sense as red, blue, and yellow are the primary color
We’ve never seen White diamonds face reaction. Like in that one silhouette of them seeing that Pink had been shattered? White Diamond is always shown face forward. White Diamond could have given Pink the idea of being ‘Rose’.
Well considering that on Jungle moon she seems to have been smaller given the location of the fractured window, how she was nearly twice the size of Pearl in a Single Pale Rose, and how we've seen Steven change age and size due to his self perception and maturity, it's entirely possible Pink diamond was still growing in size as her perception and the other diamond's perceptions of her changed..
i think pink might’ve been an off colored diamond, maybe she was supposed to be red
What if the more planets they conquer, the more they grow?
I think she’s a defective/off diamond is because she isn’t a primary color like white blue and yellow. She’s two colors mixed in. Plus it you look at their hands at 3:45 you see whites pointing upwards maybe showing how she’s the strongest and better, so are yellow. I believe yellows hands are pointing up because she thinks when white is gone she’ll be in charge. Blues hands are up and down like she’s in the middle. Looked down upon but still is treated right. Then pinks, hers is down and she is being looked down by everyone
I like how pink has tinker bell shoes
EDIT: maybe diamonds are different than normal gems and they grow??? Idk dont hurt me pls
Yeah well it seems like pink diamond her point was never to rule colonies and she didn’t need to be that big. So she was really just made to be a little sister to the other diamonds to be some like she’s almost like their pearl.
What if pink was ment to be small just like white was probably supposed to be bigger. even the gem placement makes sense. white is at the top pink is at the bottom and blue and yellow are at the sides. When their gems are put together like this they resemble a shape of a diamond
White
Yellow Blue
Pink
The thing I find most interesting about Pink is that all of her powers eg. healing, re/animation of organic life, floating, empathy, dream connectinf with other minds and her shield I want to know what all of that says about the Pink Diamond that exsisted as soon as she came from the ground and the difference it makes compared to Rose Quartz
Also the fact that Pink has all of those powers proves that the Diamonds have WAY more powers for us to see and I can't wait!!! :D
Oh and I know this has nothing to do with the video or my comment but I just wanted to point out that in the trial when Blue Diamond let off her emotional aura a lot of people say that Lars wasn't affected by it because he was human or the bubble, and more people (as far as I know) are saying because he's human, but that just doesn't make sense since YD's destabilization ability is based purely on the form of a gem which based on the destabilizers that peridot used on steven won't work because of his organic human form
BD's empathy abilities are purely based on emotion which obviously both humans and gems have so with all that in mind the reason Lars was not affected by Blue Diamonds aura is the Yellow Zircon's bubble placed around his head it shielded his mind from BD's empathy
I have a theory that Pink's powers are affected by her emotions, like Steven's are. So maybe Pink's stature is so small because she is made to feel small by the other diamonds. My theory for this is furthered by the thought that the human part of Steven has mutated this ability so that instead of changing size based on his feelings, Steven changes in age.
I can hear that smile
3:50
I genuinely look forward to watching your videos
*Well yes it pretty obvious she was* as for the others I don't know guess size differs because look at Jasper and the other Quartz's they the same rank but she's a Hulk size bigger
Yesika Narvaez I also agree about size white was huge and the yellow and blue and smaller than white and then pink is smaller then blue and yellow but that doesn't mean she is defective
Why is being smaller a disadvantage to a diamond? Being smaller makes amethyst defective because she is suppose to be a powerful soldier. A diamond is not a soldier.
For example, Aquamarine outranks Topaz despite being smaller.
Zachary Knutsen I was saying pink wasn't defective I was saying that relating to the diamonds not to the other gems
Aquamarine Blue I misread both comments. It seems we agree that being short is not necessarily a defect.
I frickin love when you say “Sliceofotaku” It’s too cool ;w;
I mean I still don't think there's really enough evidence of to definitively say that she was defective, but I do think that would be an interesting idea that would be really to see developed. Maybe it could even be used to help pacify Sapphire.
Actually there is a moment where you do see gems rotating during transformations. Watch the episodes with Topaz when she combines in the episode I Am My Mom. During the fight between Connie and Steven versus both Topaz, there is a part when both the Topaz gems are on the inside when they are split apart and are standing side by side, but when they combine, they rotate so they are on the outside but still on the same side they started. They rotated then and there, and not only that, if a singular Topaz had their gem on they're right, it was on the left, opposite side for the fusion when formed. That is it. That small detail which, perhaps hinted at the fact that gems can rotate and change their position.
I think her small size was meant to convey her temperament. She's very child-like, so why not look like a child compared to the other diamonds?
Can gems grow?
This is a question I've had in my mind for some time. When you look at Jungle Moon, you can easily see that the glass breaks at the same level Stevonnie would punch. Isn't Rose Quartz bigger than Garnet, and Rose smaller than her Diamond form? Pink diamond is still quite big compared to Pearl. I'm trying to compare sizes here, and something doesn't add up...
I feel that PD may be defective in a way of saying, she was ment to be not pink, and not small, I feel she was expected to be taller, like YD and BD, and ment to be red, as to match the primary colours BD and YD have, but, something went wrong, and she didn’t appear as WD expected, but, The diamonds acted like this was the norm, and kept it that way, despite knowing PDs Obvious differences and flaws.
and pink is a mixture of red and white so maybe shes off colour or has been idk somehow fused with a white gem during her creation
what if the 'every gem must be perfect' rule came in place after pinks shattering.
Watch the answer and see how much that theory changes...
I'd say it's more with the fact that she's younger than the other diamonds, like amethyst in the flashbacks? While she's still short she has clearly grown from that time, plus, pink diamond clearly had the mentality of a rebellious child
What if White made Pink as a companion and as a source of entertainment? Everything about her appearance and personality suggest cuteness, playfulness, and innocence, in stark contrast to the other Diamonds' intimidating and imposing stature. The color pink itself is often associated with frivolity. It is also suspect that she would need to learn to be a Diamond, since, as she said herself, "Gems burst out of the ground already knowing what they are and that is what they are, forever." She existed for several thousand years without performing her "intended role." Add onto this that Pink never mentions White and consider why Yellow and Blue doubted her. I think that all four Diamonds knew what Pink was, which is why White treats Pink's actions as a joke, why Yellow and Blue don't think that she can run a colony, and why Pink is so desperate to escape her life with White by any means necessary, either as an independent Diamond or as a rebel leader on Earth. She is desperate to have her own identity, free from White's oppression. This also explains her recklessness, impulsivity, and lack of empathy. She was made to entertain a needless being who sees everyone and everything as resources and tools. As to why White would allow her a colony, i would say that White let it happen because she thought it would be funny watching her adorable companion try to do what she does. She never expected that Pink could succeed as a true diamond; Pink is a glorified pearl.
Seeing how OP Steven is, if Pink Diamond were to be defective, I don't think we could even comprehend White Diamond's powers.
Technically she is off colored based on the diamond authority, since she a rebel and all.
You opened a new set of questions: are the diamonds actually one of a kind each? How Homeworld makes sure not more diamonds are produced by mistake? Have off-colors diamonds been produced in the past?
The one SU youtuber *not* on the defective diamond bandwagon is on the fence about it. God damnit.
Another thing I wanna say is the gem shape is strange compared to yellow and blue, and also we can assume that she should have powers considering all the diamonds we’ve seen so far have shown them (I believe the corruption wave was a combining of yellow, blues and whites “special abilities” ). She’s also much less mature than the other diamonds, which is something we also see in amethyst, so I’m thinking maybe defective sized gems may have personality differences too? I’m just throwing stuff out there, but your theory is pretty solid
She’s neither defective or off color. If anything else she is unique. She is empathetic towards everyone and sees the beauty in things. But then again the color pink does represent love and compassion so she definitely displays those characteristics of the color pink. So yeah she’s great
I love that he says I love you it’s a good touch makes me kinda smile at the end of his videos lol
Omg it makes sense how she was able to stay looking like a rose quartz. She didn’t use shapeshifting powers. When she came out of her gem she chose the form of a rose quartz.
If she's defective, her size difference from the other diamonds is so dramatic, even more dramatic than white's from what we've seen, it is possible that the crewniverse did not intend to portray her as a "normal" diamond; in fact wanted to show how different she was.
The other explanation would be if White was meant to be large, Blue and Yellow medium sized, and Pink small, in equivalence to their measure of control and power.
I would accept either explanation though.
it COULD be due to dwindling resources. Diamonds must take a massive amount of resources, White Diamond was theoretically the first gem made on Homeworld: MANY resources. Yellow and Blue next, large, but smaller than White. Pink, long after three diamonds and countless lesser gems, she has less to take from the planet and thus turns out smaller. They simply had less resources.
I kinda figured a White vs Pink comparison could be like a Jasper vs Amethyst comparison--like, how Jasper came out different from the standard in the opposite way, as "the Ultimate Quartz".
I theorized that pink was a off color because of how she acted, but for her size I thought she was small purely because she was the youngest. The other diamonds are far older then her, based of their murals, so their size reflects that. Maybe with diamonds they are larger then other gems from "birth" by default but as they "age" they grow in size which would explain the size differences between the diamonds. But since characters are drawn inconsistently this is size theory isn't really concrete.
In comparison to Stevonnie and Pearl, Pink definitely grew between the Jungle Moon flashback and the Single Pale Rose flashback. She was almost three times Pearl's size in A Single Pale Rose, whereas in Jungle Moon she was the same height as Stevonnie (about a head taller than Pearl).
So, seeing as diamonds in reality grow as they get older, I definitely think the same happens in SU with the gems.
When thinking about Pink's smaller size I never considered that she is the only Pink Diamond in existence and thus is the norm for that cut of gem.
Can you do a theory on mixed color gems (greens and oranges, etc) being mixes of personalities of two diamonds (peridot as a mix of yellow and blue, jasper as a mix of pink and yellow, etc)?
Great theory by the way!
She reminds me of most stereotypes about short people; despite her appearance and physical looks of youth and innocence, but strong, and very concentrated in strength and power. (Also the whole “closer to Hell” thing, cause of the whole manipulation, cunning thing. Sorry, that’s less serious than the rest.) that’s just my idea, and I had the same feeling with Amethyst and PS (Off Color Saph, I cannot spell.). I’m short too, so yeah... that’s just me, from my perspective, I’m not trying to insult anybody, so please don’t get mad!!! Please and thank you!
I think there is something to be said for Pink being defective, I personally have a theory that she was never meant to come into existence, that white diamond made yellow and blue to help her run her gem empire as an empress over two queens would. But Pink somehow formed on her own. And because of this isn't in the same "perfect design" blue and yellow had to be made by white diamond. Which would give an interesting narrative on the idea of "you were an accident". Because Pink ends up creating her own worth outside of the small role yellow and blue "graciously" allowed her to have. Creating her own path and being seen in such an amazing light by the other gems.
I believe that pink was supposed to be red diamond and as strong as white but white didn’t want anyone as strong as her so while pink was being created she probably did something to her so she would come out smaller and defective.she probably did this to the other diamonds as well but on a smaller scale
Surely yellow would be off-colour too, ‘cause the primary colours are red, blue and green, and blue is the only one who fits, apart from white cause she’s like all colours in one
If we are considering her size than Pink Diamond is most likely overcooked like Amethyst which could explain why she was able to stay shifted as Rose Quartz for so long. Speaking of this I have a theory that the reason that Pink?Rose had to give up her physical form to have Steven might have something to do with her holding her shapeshifting for so long because like Amethyst said in one episode holding a shape for an extended period of time can put strain on the gem something Peridot indirectly confirmed by referring to shapeshifting as a significant use of energy. Considering that Amethyst's ability to shift is due to her being an overcooked gem giving Pink a similar classification would explain a lot about how she can appear as Rose Quartz for so long.
I don't think she was a defective diamond, I think she was a different kind of diamond which no one has seen before. And due to that she seems to be defective. For example, Amythest was overcooked but her gem is still an Amythest gem and I think this is good evidence because if Pink was overcooked or "defective" she would still have the normal diamond. Therefore, I thinks she was a different form of diamonds.
I don’t think she was defective she just had to grow or maybe that’s just the form she took on when she was first created, Yellow and Blue aren’t as y’all as White
diamonds can only be broken by a sharper diamond
Never fails to impress me with you thoughts and theory and somewhat true story ending I love it
Because amethyst couldn’t stay looking like jasper too long so it makes sense for PD to choose the form of a rose quartz (while hiding her diamond on her stomach) and not change back after being poofed.
The only thing I can't understand is why on Stevonie dream, Pink and Stevonie has the same size, but when Pearl show her memories for Steven, and later when Pink first Shape Shifted on Rose, the size is really different. Gems can't get old, but I do remember on the Greg Flashback when he told Steven how he met his mom, Amethyst was smaller than she is now. So, I don't know if it's inconsistency or if Gems with certain potential just can Reform taller than before sometimes. At some point, Pink was smaller, and then just shape shifted to be bigger? That would make sense IF Rose isn't exactly the same amount of mass of Pink's body since Pink is really thin and Rose is more large in comparation. I don't know, sometimes I get really angry with those things, I wish just one person to make the drawings for the animations sometimes.
The way i understood it is that, blue diamonds get their color from boron, and yellow diamonds from a special nitrogen compound. While pink diamonds are pure white diamonds, which were overheated and pressured. This reminds me of amethyst, and how she is an overcooked gem. Mabey pink was made as a replacement gem for white diamond, but then she was overcooked so badly, that she became small(pressured) and pink. That would make her an off-color, as we have white diamond, who's the norm, and pink diamond, who's anything but the norm. Also pink's gem is more on the white side. Her pink is not as vivid, and in reality, the more vivid the pink is, the more valueble it is.
For me the size is just a side effect of having a off cut gem... PD doesn't have the same kind of cut as the other 2 diamonds we've seen, so unless white diamonds gem is unique compared to Yellow and Blue then it just means that the cut of a diamonds gem doesn't matter.
It is possible, if PD's gem cut is wrong, that she was the only diamond created by a diamond. We can fairly assume that they are artificial constructs and didn't just evolve from a mcguffin.
0:32 oh my god PD looks like a kid wearing a hoodie. You see the hood and she has her hands tucked in her pockets.
well she is still have powers that both yellow and blue doesn't have, she can somehow connect with organic life, she can restrict the dead and heal bot injuries and not fully defective gems but I'm foreseeing steven doing that in the future, and can produce a shield which can withstand the power of the three diamonds combined together she has a power far more stronger than her size
Saying that PD is not an off color because she was the only pink diamond should necessarily be ruled out because Amethyst is small compared to other amethysts but they also come in different sizes, builds, and colors just like the zercons came in different colors if that makes sense. I may be wrong but that's was just something I thought of.
I think, since Diamonds aren't "programmed" like normal gems, they don't come out already knowing everything, hence the treatment from the other diamonds. As you said, each diamond is their own standard. They have to create that standard by themselves.
I don't like to think she's defective, though, for the same reasons you brought up. And I don't think such a diamond would even be seen by other gems if they were truly defective. I think the other three would have destroyed her if that was the case. Like the other defective gems on Homeworld (that didn't escape).
i still think she may have been a deep cut like Amethyst, since there's a bit of parallels in terms of their powers and such, and plus ir someone on tumblr pointed out that her gem was indeed a deep cut irl so lmao
so in a sense i don't think she was defective or off color, as much as she might've been in the ground for too long like Amethyst
I have a whole theory on "defective" gems and why some gems like Amethyst are considered defective but ones like Peridot aren't. I don't rlly want to write an essay in the comments section, but I might make a Tumblr post, or a video on it.
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The diamonds were made to reflect the 4 diamond logo. The white diamond on the logo is at the top so White was made the tallest, the yellow and blue diamonds are side by side so Yellow and Blue were made the same height, and the pink diamond is at the bottom so Pink was made the shortest. It was just an aesthetic choice made by whoever it was that made the diamonds. It could also be more than just visual with the diamonds being given a level of power that matches, or even determines their size.
When people say 'Pink is defective because she's small', do they believe White Diamond to be defective, because she's taller than the other Diamonds? Or do they believe that Yellow and Blue are defective because they're smaller than White?
i mean i thought it was pretty obvious pink was off-colored considering the 3 primary colors are blue, yellow, and red which then altogether make white. what’s more weird is pink’s pearl (our pearl). pearls are most likely supposed to resemble their diamond the most with their gem placement as well. could her pearl have been white’s originally, and then white gave her as a gift?
I have just always thought of them like:
White it the Biggest and holds absolute rule over everything,
Blue and Yellow are like half her size and share half rule (?),
Pink is like half Blue and Yellow's size and holds little to no rule at all.
I think it's possible, but I saw a White Diamond fan portrayal with traces of colors reflected from her head and I'm starting to rethink that.
Your right about Pink Diamond being the only Pink Diamond. It does make the defective idea onto her seem way off for her character.
What has been bugging me, is that the physical appearance of a gem is just a projection of light which is chosen by the gem. Like Amethyst can turn into a pearl projection, or a garnet projection and thus become bigger, or smaller. She has been seen turn into a Jasper. Wouldn't it be able for gems to turn into Pink Diamond or for Pink Diamond turn into another diamond. Wouldn't she be able to make herself bigger?
I feel like White and/or Blue and Yellow wanted to test out a diamond who could grow OR they had also grown once upon a time and are just so old it seems like they've always been big. There are so many questions!!!
Loved this theory
Cyan drowned me too
I honestly think since rose was pink diamond and had a child maybe diamond can have children and pink is the child of blue diamond (blue seems to be a moaning mother) and maybe pink was still so young but felt she was responsible enough to have her own planet. This is only if my other theory isn't true
I find the answer to this obvious. When Amethyst had a more childlike mentality, she had a smaller form. She has grown, though only very little since then. Pink has very obviously grown in size since Jungle Moon. She is taller in A Single Pale Rose. White Diamond being largest because she is oldest makes perfect sense. Yes, gems come out fully formed and with a purpose, but the crewniverse makes a point of going off of science for actual gems and crystals-loosely-and real world crystals _grow._
In the sense of physicality, you have a great point. In the sense of her defecting from Homeworld, ehhhh. She covered it up, but, we know the truth.
Unfortunately pink's size varies between her appearances. She nearly twice the size between jungle moon and single pale rose. In addition to how her actions are coded to be more child like and then teenager like. It would appear that as she matures in mind her body follows suit. That might be a trait of diamonds specifically but it's unclear. It would definitely explain the "crystal" part of the organization she created as crystals do grow over time like she wanted to even though she seemed unaware of it.
I think part of the reason there was a difference between Pink and the other diamonds has to do with their colonies. White Diamond controls the most colonies along with Homeworld itself, making her the strongest diamond. Yellow and Blue don't control as many colonies as White, but they still control enough to make them powerful. However, Pink Diamond has never controlled a colony until she was given Earth. The fact that she only ever had one colony may explain her size and amount of power as well as her authority on Homeworld.
Pink Diamond is a Diamond...confirmed.
There may have not been enough resources to make a huge pink diamond and for how rare the gem is...I feel her height is just materialization of how some rare gems are smaller as we can guess that diamonds are not truly rare except for particular colors. Splitting yellow diamond and blue diamond in this case is both a cultural and interesting stand point because yellow diamonds technically are in abundance on another continent and compared to blue and white diamonds. Blue and white diamonds are also more controlled than yellowed diamonds in the trade. The exception of pink being so rare that we could say pink diamond is being controlled by all the diamonds of trade to try and be in control (take care of her). But that is my theory on the matter.
Another fact is that pink comes from the mix of white an red.. So if you take the idea she is defective, it could be a signe... But may be she is not defective but different and perfect on her difference. Remember be different is what makes someone powerful. And Rebbeca understand it, she thinks be different make us awesome . So maybe pink is the most powerful but as always anyone could see it on her. And the fact that blue feels really sad for pink could be cause her was always thinking bout pink as small in many ways and when she desappers blue felt that she take pink down.