***UPDATE*** We are now shipping orders with our new Coating Applicator Block System. Please review the instructional video here before usage: th-cam.com/video/w-P5clW2-oo/w-d-xo.html
I purchased your carbon coating system to apply to four major tools (table saw, planer, shaper, and band saw) which have seen over 100k board feet of production in the last few years. I just finished applying the carbon coat on all four tools and tomorrow will apply the carbon glide. On deck after that is processing about 5k board feet of Water Oak, Pine, Red Oak, and Elm... I will be interested to see how this holds up. The actual biggest reason I applied the carbon coat system is that at night I have 7 guard kitties that sleep in the workshop...When they lay on the cast iron, just their body temperature difference to the cast iron is enough to condense moisture and cause it to rust. I've come in at times in the morning to see cat outlines on my saw or shaper. Preventing the rust is really my main goal. Previously I've been applying Minwax to the surfaces but sometimes after a production run we don't get the surface recoated and the cat outlines let us know.
I purchased your quick kit for 1 to 2 tools. Worst part was cleaning the table saw and preparing it for the coating. Putting the carbon coat on was a breeze. My only issue is the 0.5 OZ didn't provide enough for my 52" SawStop PCS to get 4 layers. I was only able to apply 3.2 layers. Really 3 layers on the full saw and 4 layers on 1 wing. Now I am at the 24 hour wait before putting on the carbon glide and using my saw again tomorrow just wish I had that little bit more carbon coat for the full 4 layers.
For the next time - and it'll be a while! - try Carbon Method Reconditioning Oil in conjunction with our Abrasive Pads to make the preparation easier. It's the fastest method we've found to remove rust from an active surface and get it ready for Carbon Coating.
Good question! It will provide better protection for the metal surfaces than any other product you've used before. For any high-wear, metal on metal contact points, you might need to reapply Carbon Coat more frequently.
I was just in the process of reaching out to producers of ceramic coatings designed for both the avionics and automotive industry and asking them about woodshop applications. This seems like a great product that I would be interested in using on bigger tool surfaces and even hand planes. How does the slickness compare to a freshly waxed/buffed surface? How resistant is this product to scratches during use?
Yes, absolutely, it works wonderfully on an metal in the work shop. Sometimes it can slightly darken the metal, but has a very nice look and feel to it.
I know your website says 50 degrees is the lowest temperature but I just got my coating and I'm anxious to install it. We're in the high 40s all this week. Will the portable heater trick work or will the coating not crosslink as well? I don't want to waste it but I REALLY want to see this stuff in action. I'm a detailing nerd, so I'm familiar with coatings. Should I just wait? Thanks!
Ooh, this is a really nuanced question! You should absolutely give us a call and we can go through all the factors with you directly. Stop by carbonmethod.com and tap the customer service phone number to speak directly with the owner. We'll figure out together what's going to be best for your unique situation!
@ I ended up running a space heater. We got up to 50 yesterday so I went for it 🙂 Worst case it didn’t cross link as well as it could have. If that happens, I will abrade the surface and reapply next year. I’ll be putting the glide on today 💪🏻
Hey fellas I have a two part question. First question is is it safe to use the carbon cleaner on a finished epoxy surface? Second question is, if in the future the epoxy finish requires an additional coat will the ceramic coating interfere with that? I guess in other words would I be able to sand the epoxy and ceramic coating off to apply a fresh new coat of epoxy?
You could use Carbon cleanse to clean the epoxy, but we would suggest a mixture of isopropyl alcohol and water before Ceramic coating. You can and should sand off the Ceramic Coating making sure to get down into the epoxy. You will likely have bonding issues with the new layer of epoxy if you try to coat over the Ceramic.
We have not yet conducted - get it? 😉 - extensive testing on the resistance of Carbon Coating, but we definitely plan to! Given the high level of graphene solids in our formulation, and the extremely thin application layers, we're very interested to find out not just whether the protective Carbon Coating will pass amps, but also how well it will continue to protect after exposure to high voltage. Subscribe to our channel to stay up-to-date on our results!
We chatted with you by email, but for everyone else's benefit: a few hours is no problem! There's really no limit on the time between coats, but particularly if you've used the saw between layers, and the latest coat is fully cured, use Carbon Cleanse to prepare the surface again before applying additional layers of Carbon Coat.
You can, though, we recommend using our Reconditioning Oil, which was specifically formulated to help with the rust removal process. Check out our video "THE NEW WAY to remove rust from cast iron tools!" for more information. th-cam.com/video/XgYkGQ360MY/w-d-xo.html
Absolutely! In theory, you could add more layers days - or even weeks - later, depending on the condition of the surface. But overnight definitely isn't a problem - provided you make sure to remove any shop dust that's accumulated, of course!
can you provide a discount code? Hesitant to try this since its so new and lacking reviews. Ive seen both Bents Woodworking and The Woodwhisperer use this product but they both say they cant give a review there hasn't been enough time to pass.
Sorry, Dean, but we don't have any discount codes available at this time - but keep watching for reviews, as there are a lot of people out there trying Carbon Coat for the first time right now, and you're going to be hearing about their results soon.
Great question! We recommend using our Carbon Coating Prep Kit to get your tool surface in top-top condition before coating it. You can find that on our website and see a demonstration of the process here: th-cam.com/video/XgYkGQ360MY/w-d-xo.html
I’ve got some reservation’s about this product if it has nano technology within its makeup. ??You guys call it nano protection. Some Nano particles are very toxic and carcinogenic and not something to be messed with ( especially if your handling items coated in it dangerous nano technology) Nano technology is amazing but not all of it good - I’ll stick with paste wax until I find out more.
You'll be reassured to know that Carbon Method products contain no nanoparticles! We use 'nano' to refer to the extremely smooth, flat surfaces achieved by our coatings, not to specifically refer to nanometer-scale substances used to produce them.
Yeah, while it's not necessary for rust protection - but we recommend coating extensions to provide the same evenly slick surface across the whole top to provide the best and safest experience. The friction difference is that noticeable!
***UPDATE*** We are now shipping orders with our new Coating Applicator Block System. Please review the instructional video here before usage: th-cam.com/video/w-P5clW2-oo/w-d-xo.html
I purchased your carbon coating system to apply to four major tools (table saw, planer, shaper, and band saw) which have seen over 100k board feet of production in the last few years. I just finished applying the carbon coat on all four tools and tomorrow will apply the carbon glide. On deck after that is processing about 5k board feet of Water Oak, Pine, Red Oak, and Elm... I will be interested to see how this holds up. The actual biggest reason I applied the carbon coat system is that at night I have 7 guard kitties that sleep in the workshop...When they lay on the cast iron, just their body temperature difference to the cast iron is enough to condense moisture and cause it to rust. I've come in at times in the morning to see cat outlines on my saw or shaper. Preventing the rust is really my main goal. Previously I've been applying Minwax to the surfaces but sometimes after a production run we don't get the surface recoated and the cat outlines let us know.
Between the rigorous use and the cats, it sounds like Carbon Coat will get a thorough test in your shop! Keep us updated 😺
I purchased your quick kit for 1 to 2 tools. Worst part was cleaning the table saw and preparing it for the coating. Putting the carbon coat on was a breeze. My only issue is the 0.5 OZ didn't provide enough for my 52" SawStop PCS to get 4 layers. I was only able to apply 3.2 layers. Really 3 layers on the full saw and 4 layers on 1 wing. Now I am at the 24 hour wait before putting on the carbon glide and using my saw again tomorrow just wish I had that little bit more carbon coat for the full 4 layers.
For the next time - and it'll be a while! - try Carbon Method Reconditioning Oil in conjunction with our Abrasive Pads to make the preparation easier. It's the fastest method we've found to remove rust from an active surface and get it ready for Carbon Coating.
I used Adams surface prep and Graphene ceramic coating and it worked fine.
Nice!
Any info on how it would last on a lathe bed? lots of metal on metal sliding.
Good question! It will provide better protection for the metal surfaces than any other product you've used before. For any high-wear, metal on metal contact points, you might need to reapply Carbon Coat more frequently.
How do you suggest to clean the towels? Is laundry detergent fine?
Good question! Please do not wash buffing towels after use. They make excellent rags in the shop, but should not be washed.
I was just in the process of reaching out to producers of ceramic coatings designed for both the avionics and automotive industry and asking them about woodshop applications. This seems like a great product that I would be interested in using on bigger tool surfaces and even hand planes.
How does the slickness compare to a freshly waxed/buffed surface?
How resistant is this product to scratches during use?
Carbon Coat is very slick, and regular applications of Carbon Glide will keep an extremely slick surface.
after 6 months do you have to strip everything or can you just use the carbon cleaner and proceed ?
Just two rounds of Carbon Cleanse and then right into it! Recommend 2-3 layers of Carbon Coat on the reapplication.
@@carbonmethodcoone more question about reapplication. Does the carbon cleanse break down the carbon coat?
@@greghowdeshell Good question - Carbon Cleanse does not breakdown Carbon Coat 👍
Could this also be used on steel tools as well (chisels, blades, etc)? Does it cloud or change the appearance of metal beneath it?
Yes, absolutely, it works wonderfully on an metal in the work shop. Sometimes it can slightly darken the metal, but has a very nice look and feel to it.
I know your website says 50 degrees is the lowest temperature but I just got my coating and I'm anxious to install it. We're in the high 40s all this week. Will the portable heater trick work or will the coating not crosslink as well? I don't want to waste it but I REALLY want to see this stuff in action. I'm a detailing nerd, so I'm familiar with coatings. Should I just wait? Thanks!
Ooh, this is a really nuanced question! You should absolutely give us a call and we can go through all the factors with you directly. Stop by carbonmethod.com and tap the customer service phone number to speak directly with the owner. We'll figure out together what's going to be best for your unique situation!
@ I ended up running a space heater. We got up to 50 yesterday so I went for it 🙂 Worst case it didn’t cross link as well as it could have. If that happens, I will abrade the surface and reapply next year. I’ll be putting the glide on today 💪🏻
Hey fellas I have a two part question. First question is is it safe to use the carbon cleaner on a finished epoxy surface? Second question is, if in the future the epoxy finish requires an additional coat will the ceramic coating interfere with that? I guess in other words would I be able to sand the epoxy and ceramic coating off to apply a fresh new coat of epoxy?
You could use Carbon cleanse to clean the epoxy, but we would suggest a mixture of isopropyl alcohol and water before Ceramic coating.
You can and should sand off the Ceramic Coating making sure to get down into the epoxy. You will likely have bonding issues with the new layer of epoxy if you try to coat over the Ceramic.
I have a quick question regarding your carbon product. Is it conductive? Can electricity flow on it? Thank you for your time
We have not yet conducted - get it? 😉 - extensive testing on the resistance of Carbon Coating, but we definitely plan to! Given the high level of graphene solids in our formulation, and the extremely thin application layers, we're very interested to find out not just whether the protective Carbon Coating will pass amps, but also how well it will continue to protect after exposure to high voltage. Subscribe to our channel to stay up-to-date on our results!
Can this product be shipped to Canada ? Or is there a sales outlet in Canada ?
Hi Steven, we're working with our shipping department to see if we can send products your way. We'll keep you posted!
Shipping to Canada is now available!
What is the maximum time in between coats? Sometimes I get pulled away and it might be two or three hours before I could get to it again.
We chatted with you by email, but for everyone else's benefit: a few hours is no problem! There's really no limit on the time between coats, but particularly if you've used the saw between layers, and the latest coat is fully cured, use Carbon Cleanse to prepare the surface again before applying additional layers of Carbon Coat.
I’d be more than happy to work with your company.
Let us know if you have any questions, you can find more information on our website, www.carbonmethod.com.
Can I use WD-40 to clean the surface and rust before applying Carbon Coat?
You can, though, we recommend using our Reconditioning Oil, which was specifically formulated to help with the rust removal process. Check out our video "THE NEW WAY to remove rust from cast iron tools!" for more information. th-cam.com/video/XgYkGQ360MY/w-d-xo.html
Can more layers be added after it sets over night.
Absolutely! In theory, you could add more layers days - or even weeks - later, depending on the condition of the surface. But overnight definitely isn't a problem - provided you make sure to remove any shop dust that's accumulated, of course!
Can you apply the carbon coat to aluminum
Absolutely!
can you provide a discount code? Hesitant to try this since its so new and lacking reviews. Ive seen both Bents Woodworking and The Woodwhisperer use this product but they both say they cant give a review there hasn't been enough time to pass.
Sorry, Dean, but we don't have any discount codes available at this time - but keep watching for reviews, as there are a lot of people out there trying Carbon Coat for the first time right now, and you're going to be hearing about their results soon.
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Ok..simple enough..but what it's the best method to remove any rust spits before this process. You don't want to trap any rust
Great question! We recommend using our Carbon Coating Prep Kit to get your tool surface in top-top condition before coating it. You can find that on our website and see a demonstration of the process here: th-cam.com/video/XgYkGQ360MY/w-d-xo.html
What's the best way you've found to remove rust from a tool before starting this process with your product?
We have heard good things about the T-9 Rust Remover, but we typically use a grey abrasion pad.
I’ve got some reservation’s about this product if it has nano technology within its makeup. ??You guys call it nano protection. Some Nano particles are very toxic and carcinogenic and not something to be messed with ( especially if your handling items coated in it dangerous nano technology)
Nano technology is amazing but not all of it good - I’ll stick with paste wax until I find out more.
You'll be reassured to know that Carbon Method products contain no nanoparticles! We use 'nano' to refer to the extremely smooth, flat surfaces achieved by our coatings, not to specifically refer to nanometer-scale substances used to produce them.
maybe you guys can work with Marc and offer a "guild discount" to the Woodwhisperer Guild members?
That's a great idea! We'll talk with Marc and see what we can do.
Technically, you do not need to coat the black extension wing as it is coated metal. - not cast iron. To me, a waste of expensive product.
Yeah, while it's not necessary for rust protection - but we recommend coating extensions to provide the same evenly slick surface across the whole top to provide the best and safest experience. The friction difference is that noticeable!