iniesta and xavi are free roles of midfielder, guardiola task them to always make triangles and diamond moves with other support to create space for messi and themself. this is Johan Cruiyff what he wanted , unstoppable diamond units in football formations, guardiola create this with high skillful talent but not ideal physically like messi, iniesta, xavi, david silva, dani alves.
Weird request but can you do Wenger's later years? When he signed Sanchez and kept winning FA cups, you could also do a 3 at the back variant from the 2nd half of 16/17
FYI use a trequartista instead of a false 9.he does everything a false 9 can do plus he isnt passive so hes going to be getting those goals and assists too unlike a dlf on attack
I was looking for something like this the other day and never found something I wanted. I definitely want to try this out so thank you for the video and the insight as always. I have been using your Hanzi Flick tactic and it is really strong as well.
those 433 are really special formation for special players in not ideal - small physic players but high skills and high understanding, its hard to replicate again but once of any club in europe manage to replicate again, they will unstoppable, its like brazil 1994 with ajax touch 🔥👍
could you try making red stars champions league winning tactic from 1991? omega luke made a version of it but im sure you could do it a lot better with your tactical knowledge!
great video Stinger! think what im going to test in the roaming from positions with the front three, rather than using the PI roam from position, ill try swap positions with to see if the fluidity comes through
you still can adopt it in latest fm series, the things that so hard to replicate are creating diamond that really fluid for trequartista and finding players and proper roles in fm to replicate iniesta busquet and xavi, they are keys.
Instead of switching between balanced and attacking, wouldn’t positive be a good medium. or is there something with the mentality that doesn’t support the desired ball movement?
NO, they are too fluid as mezalla or too plain as box to box midfielder. the keys are they aggresive off the ball and on the ball, always making PASS and movement near or involving messi with busquet behind them cover the losing ball. even put them as AP or DLP didnt quite close to replicate them as they also aggresive if losing possesion. the things that close to replicate them are BWM with be more expressive and PI set to take more risk, but its still not quite close with 2011 legemdary roles.why ? BWM cannot free role and set to Attack, only support.
I found F9 works really well with the "gets forward whenever possible" trait. Stumbled on it by chance. I know common sense says drops deep, but like you say it makes them far too passive.
Not putting the Iniesta position as a Mezzalla is criminal he basically owns that role
iniesta and xavi are free roles of midfielder, guardiola task them to always make triangles and diamond moves with other support to create space for messi and themself. this is Johan Cruiyff what he wanted , unstoppable diamond units in football formations, guardiola create this with high skillful talent but not ideal physically like messi, iniesta, xavi, david silva, dani alves.
Weird request but can you do Wenger's later years? When he signed Sanchez and kept winning FA cups, you could also do a 3 at the back variant from the 2nd half of 16/17
I'll take a look to see what's out there 👍
FYI use a trequartista instead of a false 9.he does everything a false 9 can do plus he isnt passive so hes going to be getting those goals and assists too unlike a dlf on attack
Good shout, will give it a try in a future tactic
Can you make Cruyff Dream Team and Tito 2012/13 🙏
I was looking for something like this the other day and never found something I wanted. I definitely want to try this out so thank you for the video and the insight as always. I have been using your Hanzi Flick tactic and it is really strong as well.
Pleasure. Thank you again
those 433 are really special formation for special players in not ideal - small physic players but high skills and high understanding, its hard to replicate again but once of any club in europe manage to replicate again, they will unstoppable, its like brazil 1994 with ajax touch 🔥👍
could you try making red stars champions league winning tactic from 1991?
omega luke made a version of it but im sure you could do it a lot better with your tactical knowledge!
in the video is the right sided midfielder the iniesta type role bc he got dribble more was confused cos he played on the left side
Yes, you are right, just worked better in game that way round with the attacking wing back
Can you also do the famous MSN and BBC trios
will have a look
its just 4231 or 433, and the rest is their technical and physical of world class speak for themself.
Some lovely beats in the vid mate 😊😉
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great video Stinger! think what im going to test in the roaming from positions with the front three, rather than using the PI roam from position, ill try swap positions with to see if the fluidity comes through
That's what I tried bud, swap position on 2 IFs. You might have better luck 👍
@@StingerNeilD oh really I thought it was just the roaming position PI, nevermind😅
Do you reckon you can try Total Football in FM24?
set formation to 433 4231 or 3421 and get VERY ATTACKING mentality, thats your total football, trust me
Nice tactic, good work. Would it be possible to create the fa cup tactic Manchester United used in the final against Manchester City?
Maybe but that might be tricky to pull off
Also would've been interesting to see this tactic with a retro database
you still can adopt it in latest fm series, the things that so hard to replicate are creating diamond that really fluid for trequartista and finding players and proper roles in fm to replicate iniesta busquet and xavi, they are keys.
Your the top boy of fm 🙏
Too kind 🤟
Lovely stuff! What specific position are the wingers marking? Im presuming the full backs?
Yes sir
Instead of switching between balanced and attacking, wouldn’t positive be a good medium. or is there something with the mentality that doesn’t support the desired ball movement?
Can definitely give it a try. Didn't seem right when I tried, but that was only for a couple of games I'm honesty
I think 2 rpms would've worked pretty well in my experience rpms play like more ball playing box to box midfielders
Definitely worth a go
The best in the world! ❤
Wouldn't a midfield of RPM (Xavi) and Mez A/S (Iniesta) work better here? As opposed to both CMs on automatic.
Possibly but i explained it in the video why I chose it
@@StingerNeilD sure, understood
The false 9 is too passive while the dlf attack isn't getting much assist and dribbles
How do i fix that
Potentially add some PIs to the DLF. Dribble more, more direct passing perhaps. Also the option to add be more expressive into team instructions
@StingerNeilD
I did that but the cms and inside forwards are getting all the goals and assists
Would a trequartista be better?
Why is tackle harder FM friendly ?
Match engine seems to enjoy it
@@StingerNeilD does it not get too many yellows ? Do you use it when they stand off and don't put a foot in ?
@adamfieldhouse1 I take it off when if it gets to much. I don't use it all the time in personal saves
Iniesta = Mezzalla Xavi = Box-to-box Box
Xavi ran more than any other midfielder that year in the top five leagues
NO, they are too fluid as mezalla or too plain as box to box midfielder. the keys are they aggresive off the ball and on the ball, always making PASS and movement near or involving messi with busquet behind them cover the losing ball. even put them as AP or DLP didnt quite close to replicate them as they also aggresive if losing possesion.
the things that close to replicate them are BWM with be more expressive and PI set to take more risk, but its still not quite close with 2011 legemdary roles.why ? BWM cannot free role and set to Attack, only support.
I found F9 works really well with the "gets forward whenever possible" trait. Stumbled on it by chance. I know common sense says drops deep, but like you say it makes them far too passive.
Good shout mate, I'm surprised that instruction is available for the role
@StingerNeilD my player was initially a winger and I retrained him to be F9 so thats maybe why ?
@@StingerNeilD i think he meant as a player trait and not and instruction u can set :)
@@aleiix1077 arr yes my bad. Yes makes sense
come deep to get the ball, and get into opposition area are Messi traits of False nine or Trequartista
The tactic is certainly good, but is not absolutely a recreation. Tiki-taka is a slow tempo and much more passing style tactic
His barca team moved the ball fairly quickly now at city they move the ball very slow
Definitely not exact replication, but I have to say they definitely used a slightly higher tempo at Barca, a lot more often than City do