It is using Cortex A76 core from 2018. Imagine if they would put today's Cortex X4 core in it. X4 has 2x IPC, so basically twice as fast at the same clock. This would be full office PC for a few bucks. Next Orange Pi 6 will be awesome x86 PC killer!!!
Me too... And now I'm running the newest RPi5 and it's amazing. The new Raspbian Bookworm is just perfect regarding whole ecosystem and the drivers are much better compared to previous version (I mean networking performance for example). The only problem is that the 3D Wayland window system is still not complete, so I turned to the legacy X-window system now. I hope it will be fixed soon. Anyway the performance for just 4 cores is awesome.
I remember about a decade ago when I heard about the Raspberry Pi. I thought, 'Give it a decade and it might really be something...'. Here I am a decade later, setting up an Orange Pi 5 Plus 16GB and wondering why I ever even considered waiting for months to get an RP5...
I bought the 16GB Plus, since 32GB is definitely overkill. I love that they include an eMMC interface. You can add a 256GiB module for dirt cheap and it takes up zero extra space for an OS drive, while also leaving NVMe open for pure storage. I plan to use mine for the dual 2.5Gbit ports as a core router running OpenWRT (they offer a ready-made image) with a NAS docker image to store media. I was able to pull the full 2.5Gbit across the ports with no problem at all, making this WAY cheaper than retail 2.5Gbit routers from the usual brands...yes, I know that's not accounting for the built-in multi-port switch, but a more robust router with adblock, et al, still makes it a great value setup for 2.5Gbit networks. I needed a PoE switch, anyway.
Nothing is overkill when you are talking tech. The more RAM you can feed the machine, the happier it is and the experience will be. Headroom is a big deal after all. 🙂
@@SkittleKicksPlays Given it's a small-scale ARM CPU (versus say an Ampere), 32GB is pretty hard to fill up for most use cases. No point in springing for the more expensive 32GB when 16GB will suffice for 98% of what you'd actually be able to get running on the SoC. However, I do love that OPi offers a 32GB option for the remaining 2%. I've been buying more OPi devices than RPi lately. They've really become a force for driving the platform forward and putting a little fire under RPi's butt to be competitive again.
Router & NAS sounds like a great combo of application for it. I'd most certainly go for 16GB RAM as well, that's.more than plenty for that use case. The only thing that would bug me, is that I'd want to make use of the HDMI input/passthrough too. Though, pretty sure the RAM at least should be enough to handle another container for that. Perhaps, it gets tight once you do heavy transcoding, but I'd stick to max 720p anyway. Anything above again needs excess storage, etc. anyway, hence it'll outgrow a tiny ARM board quickly.
I thought the same thing, which is why I downloaded the image for it. But it has to get in line behind Android 14, which has to wait a few months while I use the SBC as a Linux desktop for educational purposes. And maybe a couple of projects. I could just get stuck playing CODM on the big screen...who knows?
Once you hit the over 100 bucks price point you're really starting to land in territory that might be better served by an Intel PC, or at least a better established Android tv box.
I agree. These SBCs are cool and all, and I'm sure there are use cases, but aside from that, used office PCs, mini or otherwise, have been the best value around for a while. I made the switch a couple of years ago having bought several of them and they work a lot better for me. At one point not even a year ago, I was seeing systems with fourth-gen i5s, which are still very good for many things, going for $40-50 with their power supplies. Yeah, they'll draw more power than SBCs, but they still draw a small amount to where it doesn't matter much, at least for me. On the plus side, there's far more flexibility with the OS, no worry about graphics drivers(the biggest sticking point for SBCs), and several other things. That flexibility goes a long way. Recently, systems with Ryzen APUs have dropped below 100 and they can handle PS2 rather well.
ARM's strengths still with power to performance ratio. A 100 dollar Intel PC will have a Celeron which would struggle emulating some newer systems that ARM chips in the same range won't have problems with. And PC games that have mobile counterparts are very optimized for the mobile versions.
As well as the specs for gaming. The HDMI IN is an interesting feature. If it can handle a TH-cam stream. It’s a most cost effective way of having that all built in an incredibly small form factor.
Someone did make BELABOX which is a complete streaming distro for RK3588 boards with HDMI-In. I think it was for Twitch, and from what I saw, it works fairly well. Probably could work for TH-cam.
I'm still glad I got an Elgato. I am interested in trying Android gaming on it. But I think it is probably an even match with my current phone. It will be interesting playing CODM on a 43" screen.
This board is amazing. With Docker on it, it handles NAS, PiHole and OpenWRT duties on a single SBC. Worth every penny and blows the Pi5 out of the water in terms of performance, value and even availability. I’m not shilling, I just love this board.
I got mine for $119 from AliExpress…but Amazon is expensive I agree. However, I still think it’s worth it. Although now for $150 I’d recommend any flavor of n97 mini pc for $150 instead of this.
A lot has changed since then. They have test versions of Windows 11 running on RP5. Must be twice as good on an OP5. On an RK3588, you could run WARM. On a RP5, you can only run lukeWARM.
I have the 16GB version and the software support needs help. Good thing Armbian has done great work and kernel 6.7 test images are available. I've been waiting for mainline Linux support for a while and it will happen soon.
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Don't expect too much. Mainline is still extremely buggy and will continue to be so for quite some time. The builds are purely experimental, very constrained hdmi support, no graphics drivers that enable hardware acceleration, and looots of serious bugs. Rockchip is expected to publish a 6.1 kernel soon, that should work better. I'd expect it to be usable when Ubuntu 24.04 with an adaped kernel becomes available. Mainline maybe another year later...
I bought one on purpose to challenge myself. I'm re-learning coding and taking a cybersecurity course. Who knows, some of my work may end up in a future distro...
@@GustavoMsTrashCan sure but comparing price of 8GB models of RPi5 to 32GB model of OrangePi5 is simply stupid. And as far as performance goes - RK3588 has the same 4 cores as RPi5 + 4 smaller cores. I don't know about you but for me it's pretty obvious which has more computing power. Plus NPU. Plus it actually is widely available. Plus it has more pcie lanes available and at higher standard. So...
I have the 16GB Orange Pi 5 Plus running Joshua Reik's Ubuntu 22.04 image doing some rather simple server tasks. I was using an ancient Intel NUC but moving to this SBC allowed me to cut energy usage to 1/3rd (65W vs 20W). You got the chip wrong btw, its a Rockchip RK3588 and not the S variant which is the one with more limited IO found in the Orange Pi 5B and the Khadas Edge2. The S variant does not support dual 2.5gig LAN or the PCIe 3.0 x4 for the M.2 NMVe. I have confirmed that the front type c can run a type c monitor though you will certainly want to provide extra power to the monitor as the brightness is very low (my 16" 2560x1600 120Hz UPERFECT uses about 15W and the PSU for the Orange Pi 5 Plus is only 20W so understandable). I was using a 1TB M.2 NMVe but ended up settling on the 256GB eMMC that came with it. Note that the eMMC is proprietary and actually has two connectors instead of the one connector commonly found on other SBCs.
This really makes me feel so poor. I think this thing is literally faster than my PC I am on right now. i7-2600K 16gb ram. But I do have a 1070 video card a friend gave me. Lord retirement sucks.
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RK3588! No "s"! The s is a specked down version with the same CPU and GPU, but much less IO. The 5 and 5b (no plus) have the S, and don't have the M.2 PCIE3 port at the bottom, nor 2.5gb ethernet, nor double hdmi, hdmi in
I've watched people install ubuntu, then install docker, then install ubuntu in that docker. So you run the OS, only to emulate the OS for safety reasons? Weird eh, but hey its got the power, so w.e Just wish there was a damn vulkan driver,
Lol, everyone in the Emu community is talking about the RP5, like the geeks they are. But you're right. I think this will run BOTW. The RP5, not so much. I am also looking forward to trying the Android distro and playing CODM. I'm pretty sure it will be able to run the HD textures at 1440p with 90-120fps based on playing it on my phone. The RK3588 is pretty close in performance to the Exynos 1280. Gonna be crazy seeing that on my 43" monitor.
The thing about Orange Pi 5 and Android is that a good amount of games are made for touchscreen and you might be better of with their Android 12 version with touchscreen which was last updated (for vanilla OPi5) this November. This version feels really nice although not perfect still it has less issues than Droid OS which for vanilla OPi 5 was last updated this April. You can literally make yourself an Android tablet like device with 16/32GB RAM and 1TB SSD that you can use for Linux and Batocera on the side or vice versa. Furthermore you can also use it with openFyde that has both Linux and Android subsystems which is neat but last time I tried it did not work with touchscreen. I feel that 32GB is overkill for gaming and is more on the server side of things however I would like to point out Orange Pi 5 has a long way to go in terms of software support but it will start getting there maybe starting 2024. Personally I even bought one for my father so he can use it for a secondary PC on his TV and expect it to be useful to him in the coming years. On a second note I want the Orange Pi 3B to also get a bit of spotlight while it is not as powerful as OPi 5 it offers 8GB RAM, WiFi+BT, both NVMe and eMMC slots for around of 70$ with 256GB eMMC which is a sweet considering current prices. It is also slightly less powerful than RPi4.
The only games I play on Android support controller. There is absolutely no argument you can make for playing CODM with a touchscreen being better than controller. Touchscreen is a fundamentally laggy and unresponsive input interface with zero tactile feel. After 40 years of gaming, I also much prefer a controller to mouse and keyboard. I wonder if Apex Legends Mobile ever bothered to put in controller support... If Max Payne can have it, any game can.
@@alexmorgun851 I bought one to initially use as a Linux desktop for taking a cybersecurity course. Some people want to use them to play games, other people want to use them to do work. There isn't a whole lot of in-between. It isn't like they are going to replace the desktop computer overnight. But once Windows on ARM is better developed, maybe. My OP5 Plus 16GB wasn't cheap but it will blow the doors off a comparably priced N95 mini PC and is more versatile.
43 days since you dropped the classic ETA Prime intro. Hate to see you going away from your roots. I know its something small but it really made you stand out.
@ETAPRIME I didn't find an Orange Pi 5 pro at their site and also no configuration with a RK3588s (except the Orange Pi 5), are your sure your datas are correct?
oh man, don't confuse me, there's actually an Orange Pi 5 Pro coming out. It is Standard Size. 2 HDMI flat. with audio out in the middle, 40 GPIO, very much looks like a Pi 3B, with m.2 nvme, emmc, 1 ram stack, and has Wi-Fi built in, so in comparison I'd say the original pi 5 (which I have, is now crappy, the 5B not bad and preferred over the OG 5 caue of NVME gen 2 speeds. other than size. the 5B has Wi-Fi and emmc, with the same everything else. Then the 5 plus is my favorite, I do plan to buy 5x 16GB, and 5x 32GB to create my homelab. As well as having a 32GB as my own play toy. And then offering customers the pi 5 plus, pi 5B, Rock 5B, Rock 3B, as hub's for my security and automated home setup. Because of the huge wifi bandwidth, nvme and emmc storage. It'll create a home cloud, home lab, servers for games that don't have servers anymore, or you just want your own, your own cloud will be a result of how many external High capacity self powered drives you attach, or adding a NAS. as well as adding external drives, 256GB emmc wil be used for all security footage analyzes, and then (because of price, not brand) Orange Pi Zero 3's and Zero 2W's will be used as Wi-Fi extenders, MCU's for sensors and reactors, as well as an ESP NOW mesh, which will also report to the 1GB Zero 2W's outside, Zero 3's when inside, Every single piece of tevch used will have it's own 18650 battery pack that is triple the required amount for a week of use without charge, each battery pack if outdoors get's charged by 1.5 time recommended amount of panels and 5v Wind turbines. All of that stuff will get spaced out enough to be more camouflaged, but also be used for other stuff. There will be several human detection radar, PIR, Motion sensors, Laser trips, vibration sense, and lastly faciual recognition either through Milk V Duo or LuckFox - either just pico, or one of the higher ones, atm I have pico mini A and a Pico Max otw, the milk V is here but no camera, with the ESP32 cam's only turning on when 2/4 human sensing sensors gets tripped. There could be 4 more human detection sensors but 2 sensors tripped like human radar detector, and any other, vibration motion, thermal, all kinds.Each pi zero will not create a net or blanket mesh, bt a fingers mesh, where each line of zero's is setup that way to create faster transfers up and down that line. The ESP NOW Mesh will be a fall back, but will also be used for it's own video streaming to a zero or to the hub. Facial really matter s for next bit. If 3 sensors detect you and everyone else as being part of the homegroup. ie you all live there, recordings halt. Will also be testing the Ox64, and all other boards that are small and specialize in facial, or person recognition that can combine that data with the radar and every other sensor collected to ensure that the people we are ruling out as homegroup members - there will be no doubt. Thus saving power, saving saved space, less writes and rewrites means less maintenance, and a 1GB Orange Pi Zero 2W is 3$ more than a wifi extender here, it's slower, but that;s not what we care about in this instance,
I love how they are pulling an old fashioned Nintendo Strategy of bringing something that is easy to make and distribute at a low price and keeping costs down on parts. I see a lot more support now as well so they are catching up with the UK.
With the HDMI in, i would be interested in using it for something like a diy madvr for home theaters. Think about replacing a $10k video processor with a raspberry pi knockoff.
I’m super curious about that HDMI in. Are there any dev projects out there that can turn this thing into an all in one capture card with pass through, plus encoder recorder, plus streaming computer? Is that too much to ask from this. I wonder if it has good hardware accelerated encoding, can it handle 1080p in, 1080p out, and then add a few overlays, encode, record, and stream 1080p.
The hardware acceleration's been something of a hard point for these boards - I have a NanoPC T6 which is very similar, spec-wise, and hardware acceleration isn't a given universally, things have to be built against the Rockchip and its HDMI-In and the like. Usually, commands are on the device's respective wiki to access it through GStreamer on Linux, and there's a dedicated app on dedicated Android images to access HDMI-In, but while it looks possible, it's not the most plug-and-play solution. I need to test more, personally, and I've seen MicroLinux do it with these boards with some success, but as it stands, it seems to take an Ubuntu-type distro with a particular display server and graphics stack and PPA with custom-built software to get hardware accel on OBS.
They make nice hardware, and documentation is quite good. But OS, firmware, drivers, GPU support - is often either only in android, or is MIA. They have a lot of work to do on the software side to level up to the hardware side.
GPU support is in any OS, if you have sufficient skils he takes 20min to compile the kernel with the GPU support. These are mainly boards for professionals if you are an amateur buy a Raspberry PI: you will get better experience out of the box with a very small knowledge.
@@blender_wiki Valid. Except for one thing. This applies equally to images the vendor supplies with the board. So - if this is a slot where its only 20 minutes for a relative skilled person to compile a kernel with GPU support - then this should have been done from the start. So, take your snotty attitude, and your baseless point and jog on. My original point is as relevant right now, in exact response to your comment. This isn't 1990. There are no excuses for this if the GPU driver code is available and can simply be compiled, and put within an OS image on the vendor site. Nuff said.
If I'm not mistaken this is the Orange Pi 5 Plus with the RK3588, not the RK3588S found on the Orange Pi 5, the Pro model has DDR5 + RK3588S and looks more like the Orange Pi 5, not the plus.
The main problem this Rockchip based SOCs have is, they have issues with drivers and firmware. So basicly you have to do a lot coding and building your own images and often needed stuff is only by reverse engineering. As you already said, you have issues with other provided images, that things dont work and only the android is working good. This means you have to add stuff and build your own linux kernel and that is way to much for the normal user. If the provided images from the manufactor dont even work with everything, how should a normal user get this stuff to work?
They're probably providing too many options. One or two Linux distributions (as well as android) with proper support would be better than a bunch of half supported options. That's always a problem with most of these Arm boarda. Even when it works, upgrading to a new version of the OS can be impossible.
Orange Pi 5 Plus boards are probably better fitted for NAS if an ASM1160 or JMB585 based SATA controller is plugged in the M2-M slot and this is nice to have a lot of RAM for a multipurpose server, but the 16 GB flavor would most probably suffice. The 2x2.5 GbE is indeed a must and WiFi is not required to my point of view for such board. I am currently setting up a NAS and surveillance station based on Radxa Rock 5B that does offer similar connectivity with a single 2.5 GbE port. The heart of these boards is the Rockchip 3588 SoC in any case, and You can expect decent performance in software RAID 5 for HDDs based arrays. At 2'20", please note there is a mistake in the SoC summary: the chip is RK3588 (Orange Pi 5 Plus flavors) and not RK3588S, which drops the 4 PCIe lanes M2-M key and relies on simple GbE (original Orange Pi 5 and Pi 5B flavors). So 'S' might stand for 'stripped' ;-) But I don't see much interest in this video, as the specific features of the Plus flavor are not tested at all, so the content here is just fine for the original RK3388S SoC based Pi 5 board as a multimedia and gaming alternative.
This board sounds nice. Not one of the links provided to Amazon and Alibabi seems topoint to a 32GB RAM option, though. They DO point to 16GB machines, but that's no slouch either. Nice.
Currently using 16GB model with Ubuntu 20.04. and that is total mess like every Ubuntu based PC's. Ignoring general Ubuntu issues, there is one large problem, and that's is called - Mali. That damn GPU drivers are so broken that I have wasted months to get working basic 3d acceleration. There is no NPU support, no Vulcan, no support at all in any OSes, only in Android. If developers will be interested in platform, it can be optimized and start beating Apple M series but that's only in future, +6 years 😉 And some general changes need to be made how arm64 support is handled from community side.
Please show Ubuntu OS on OrangePi as I’d li,e to build a desktop replacement with either a raspberry pi or orange pi. Step by step guide are highly appreciated
With those dual 2.5G Ethernet ports, seems like it could be a good router. The hdmi in is intriguing, could it be like an open source capture card kind of thing? I’m also wondering what do you do with 32gigs of ram on one of these? Seems like it was built to be a jack of all trades.
This definitely is the Orange Pi 5 Plus , The "Pro" version actually has DDR5 and from my experiments does not support any of my monitors that support DP/Alt :( The price is nearly identical for the PRO which IMO has only one major benefit besides power draw and that's the raspberry pi5 like form factor. The benefits of DDR5 vs DDR4 has been negligible as I own both at 16GB versions as DDR5 may negate any power draw benefits the pro version has under generous load conditions. I'll also mention that their official OS still doesn't support NVME boot right out of the box (At least for the pro version) which is unfortunate. All in all, tend to use the Plus version more often which may be because it's connected to the main TV in the house but who knows. Really appreciate your videos bro, theyve definitely saved me some time and money, no shade for the fact check though :P
The title of this video is now confusing since they just (May 2024) released an official Orange Pi 5 Pro, which is a different product from the Orange Pi 5 Plus shown here.
I am very interested in seeing how the Ubuntu and Debian images work on this board. I am looking for a good SBC for robotics with image detection and classification (OpenCV, ROS2, etc).
Please clarify to us Confusiasts. Your main board picture of the Orange Pi Pro appears to INCORRECTLY show the Orange Pi Plus version. However, you said the Orange Pi Pro uses the black RK3588S version. If it is the "S" version, then it appears to NOT support HDMI INPUT. I hope that you take a 2nd look. Thanks, you got thinking.
Google Play out of the box and no side loading. I am going to buy one. I always wanted an android desktop or laptop. I just wonder how long it will have software support.
I love very much all the content you are uploading on youtube ! Super greate work !!!!! Can you please check the audio settings, the sound quality is not so good anymore. sound interruptions occurs all the time of video playback.
You've confused the RAM with the eMMC socket. The total RAM is either 4GB/8GB/16GB (LPDDR4/4x) (16GB is the max) and the eMMC socket is either 32GB/64GB/256GB (256GB is the max for storage). eMMC (embedded MultiMediaCard) which is flash memory (like a USB thumb drive) is used to store the app/programs in a permanent way. RAM (Random Access Memory) is the temporary place an app/program is placed in after it is first opened up. This allows for quick access later when reopening. RAM is cleared when the device it turned off (and the app/program is placed back into the MicroSSD card or an M.2 drive before the system is powered down). The two terms are NOT interchangeable. eMMC (M.2 or MicroSSD etc) = permanent storage RAM = temporary storage
It's not another, it's been out for a while, it just had a ra upgrade. But I understand. It's just too bad there's literally NO other SBC CPU that can compete atm.
Just because they have a single board computer, some people think you should fondle it as much as possible. That is not the case. Touch the electronics as little as possible.
since you have the board, have you tried to install the batocera image for orange pi 5 in this board?, Since it's literally the same chip I think it'll work but I wanna be sure...
The various RK3588 distros have always had some way to access via GStreamer on the CLI. Now if you're talking OBS, that's also possible, but usually requires special builds of things.
Fantastic board, I think 32GB of RAM deserves a little explaining on how can it be leveraged and some Switch Emulation, especially now that Yuzu NCE version is officially on the Play Store. Thank you for the news!
Given some BAD/uneducated comments, *PLEASE* , show 'em what this board is capable of with *FEX-EMU* . Also, consider adding it in the list of emulators when testing ARM boards. Sincerely.
Consider the following...I remember playing with CRYSIS and GTA4 on the Nvidia 9500 GT at 40 to 60fps, with a GPU delivering +-89.6 gflops and 4.4 GPixel/s. The ARM Mali-G610 MP4 has 64 Shading units, Cache memory of 1.5 MB, Triangle fillrate of 1,376 MT/s, Pixel fillrate 48.0 GPixel/s *AND* 610.6 GFLOPS in FP32. Moral of the story: with *FEX-EMU* you can run *THOSE* titles and *MORE* .
I would love to see the Indian primebook get tested on this Chanel I actually ordered one from India because I love the desktop experience on orange pi so I will be trying primebook to confirm if it capable of replacing my phone when it come to using my favorite apps
I have a Pi4 and Zero 2 for Retropie/Kodi and a mini PC. Can't really see what I would need a 32GB RAM SBC for, though I'm sure it does have it's applications.
"Orange pi 5 pro" just came out with 16GB LPDDR5 6400mhz RAM, RK3588S, your need to change calling Orange pi 5 plus, with a "pro" in this 5 month old video 😮
Can you take at look at the Vicharak Axon? I wanna buy it, but kinda pricey for the specc. I am very interested in the 4 MIPI ports and the full size M.2 NVMe support along with a SATA controller on board. It would make an awesome companion pc for the ardupilot family of goodies, if its good.
any chance you'll be able to check out the Orange Pi 5 MAX that was just released? It can do 4k 120 hz with av1 decoding-- I would love to know if Android TV OS could run on it as a direct replacement to the Nvidia Shield
Check out the AMD Radeon Pro W7500. I stumbled on this card researching my next build. It’s cheaper than the A2000, has the same wattage, and is single slot.
So how come you call it the Orange Pi 5 Pro, but their website calls it the Orange Pi 5 Plus? A bit pricey for me at $168. I think I would rather add a bit more and get a mini PC though the Orange Pi Plus does have gpio so that would be something to consider.
I would like to see you do a video where you put this thing through its paces as far as HDMI in. What HDMI input is it? 2.1? Does it support HDCP? How many frames can it handle at 1080p and 4k?
I'm curious if there's a proper ARM fork of Windows that'll work on that chipset. I do like Linux, but every time I try to use it long-term something goes wrong in the OS at some point, either my fault or the updater's fault, and it just stops booting properly. Windows may be outwardly jank as hell and woefully inefficient, but it is mostly reliable.
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I still remember the first versions of these SBCs like it was yesterday. Mind blowing to see that they’ve got desktop power in such small footprint.
ive still got my orange pi zero , nice little sbc
@@codingfun63 I got mine too !!!
It is using Cortex A76 core from 2018. Imagine if they would put today's Cortex X4 core in it. X4 has 2x IPC, so basically twice as fast at the same clock. This would be full office PC for a few bucks. Next Orange Pi 6 will be awesome x86 PC killer!!!
Me too... And now I'm running the newest RPi5 and it's amazing. The new Raspbian Bookworm is just perfect regarding whole ecosystem and the drivers are much better compared to previous version (I mean networking performance for example).
The only problem is that the 3D Wayland window system is still not complete, so I turned to the legacy X-window system now. I hope it will be fixed soon. Anyway the performance for just 4 cores is awesome.
I remember about a decade ago when I heard about the Raspberry Pi. I thought, 'Give it a decade and it might really be something...'.
Here I am a decade later, setting up an Orange Pi 5 Plus 16GB and wondering why I ever even considered waiting for months to get an RP5...
I bought the 16GB Plus, since 32GB is definitely overkill. I love that they include an eMMC interface. You can add a 256GiB module for dirt cheap and it takes up zero extra space for an OS drive, while also leaving NVMe open for pure storage. I plan to use mine for the dual 2.5Gbit ports as a core router running OpenWRT (they offer a ready-made image) with a NAS docker image to store media. I was able to pull the full 2.5Gbit across the ports with no problem at all, making this WAY cheaper than retail 2.5Gbit routers from the usual brands...yes, I know that's not accounting for the built-in multi-port switch, but a more robust router with adblock, et al, still makes it a great value setup for 2.5Gbit networks. I needed a PoE switch, anyway.
Microsoft needs to make Windows support for ARM official and permanent.
Nothing is overkill when you are talking tech. The more RAM you can feed the machine, the happier it is and the experience will be. Headroom is a big deal after all. 🙂
@@SkittleKicksPlays Given it's a small-scale ARM CPU (versus say an Ampere), 32GB is pretty hard to fill up for most use cases. No point in springing for the more expensive 32GB when 16GB will suffice for 98% of what you'd actually be able to get running on the SoC. However, I do love that OPi offers a 32GB option for the remaining 2%. I've been buying more OPi devices than RPi lately. They've really become a force for driving the platform forward and putting a little fire under RPi's butt to be competitive again.
Router & NAS sounds like a great combo of application for it. I'd most certainly go for 16GB RAM as well, that's.more than plenty for that use case.
The only thing that would bug me, is that I'd want to make use of the HDMI input/passthrough too. Though, pretty sure the RAM at least should be enough to handle another container for that. Perhaps, it gets tight once you do heavy transcoding, but I'd stick to max 720p anyway. Anything above again needs excess storage, etc. anyway, hence it'll outgrow a tiny ARM board quickly.
@@cv990a4 There's some Windows on Orange Pi 5 here: "ARM Windows 11 on RK3588 SBC (Orange Pi 5)" ExplainingComputers channel.
It would be interesting to see the Orange Pi Arch OS in action 👍
I thought the same thing, which is why I downloaded the image for it. But it has to get in line behind Android 14, which has to wait a few months while I use the SBC as a Linux desktop for educational purposes. And maybe a couple of projects.
I could just get stuck playing CODM on the big screen...who knows?
Once you hit the over 100 bucks price point you're really starting to land in territory that might be better served by an Intel PC, or at least a better established Android tv box.
At 150-200 there are alot of Intel/AMD Mini PC´s with FullCase, Aircooler and Windows 11.
@@stefans.3940 windows 11 sucks
I agree. These SBCs are cool and all, and I'm sure there are use cases, but aside from that, used office PCs, mini or otherwise, have been the best value around for a while. I made the switch a couple of years ago having bought several of them and they work a lot better for me. At one point not even a year ago, I was seeing systems with fourth-gen i5s, which are still very good for many things, going for $40-50 with their power supplies. Yeah, they'll draw more power than SBCs, but they still draw a small amount to where it doesn't matter much, at least for me. On the plus side, there's far more flexibility with the OS, no worry about graphics drivers(the biggest sticking point for SBCs), and several other things. That flexibility goes a long way. Recently, systems with Ryzen APUs have dropped below 100 and they can handle PS2 rather well.
I don't know of many Intel PCs with an HDMI-In natively, though.
ARM's strengths still with power to performance ratio. A 100 dollar Intel PC will have a Celeron which would struggle emulating some newer systems that ARM chips in the same range won't have problems with. And PC games that have mobile counterparts are very optimized for the mobile versions.
As well as the specs for gaming. The HDMI IN is an interesting feature. If it can handle a TH-cam stream. It’s a most cost effective way of having that all built in an incredibly small form factor.
Someone did make BELABOX which is a complete streaming distro for RK3588 boards with HDMI-In. I think it was for Twitch, and from what I saw, it works fairly well. Probably could work for TH-cam.
for gaming i think no but maybe for making your own TV frontend yes.
I'm still glad I got an Elgato. I am interested in trying Android gaming on it. But I think it is probably an even match with my current phone. It will be interesting playing CODM on a 43" screen.
This board is amazing. With Docker on it, it handles NAS, PiHole and OpenWRT duties on a single SBC. Worth every penny and blows the Pi5 out of the water in terms of performance, value and even availability. I’m not shilling, I just love this board.
Yeah, they are nice. Though the downside is they aren’t as well supported as the RPi.
150$ 😂
I got mine for $119 from AliExpress…but Amazon is expensive I agree. However, I still think it’s worth it. Although now for $150 I’d recommend any flavor of n97 mini pc for $150 instead of this.
3:21 "Windows on Arm" Reminds me of my Microsoft Surface 2 tablet. It's Windows and it's an ARM chip. Ten years ago.
A lot has changed since then. They have test versions of Windows 11 running on RP5. Must be twice as good on an OP5. On an RK3588, you could run WARM. On a RP5, you can only run lukeWARM.
I have the 16GB version and the software support needs help. Good thing Armbian has done great work and kernel 6.7 test images are available. I've been waiting for mainline Linux support for a while and it will happen soon.
Don't expect too much. Mainline is still extremely buggy and will continue to be so for quite some time. The builds are purely experimental, very constrained hdmi support, no graphics drivers that enable hardware acceleration, and looots of serious bugs. Rockchip is expected to publish a 6.1 kernel soon, that should work better. I'd expect it to be usable when Ubuntu 24.04 with an adaped kernel becomes available. Mainline maybe another year later...
I bought one on purpose to challenge myself. I'm re-learning coding and taking a cybersecurity course. Who knows, some of my work may end up in a future distro...
Would love to see some temperature gauges, CPU especially. Bet it gets hot.
I have a 16gb OPI+ with just an aluminum heatsink on it. I’ve never seen it above 65C under load.
It feels like a generation ahead of Raspberry pi 5
At the cost of two or three RasPi 5's, that is.
@@csolisr Oh? 32GB RPi5 somewhere? No? Aaah, ok.
@@Promilus1984 Available ram =/= system performance tho.
@@GustavoMsTrashCan sure but comparing price of 8GB models of RPi5 to 32GB model of OrangePi5 is simply stupid. And as far as performance goes - RK3588 has the same 4 cores as RPi5 + 4 smaller cores. I don't know about you but for me it's pretty obvious which has more computing power. Plus NPU. Plus it actually is widely available. Plus it has more pcie lanes available and at higher standard. So...
@@csolisr 8gb rpi 5 costs 80 usd while 8gb orange pi 5 around 60 usd
I have the 16GB Orange Pi 5 Plus running Joshua Reik's Ubuntu 22.04 image doing some rather simple server tasks. I was using an ancient Intel NUC but moving to this SBC allowed me to cut energy usage to 1/3rd (65W vs 20W). You got the chip wrong btw, its a Rockchip RK3588 and not the S variant which is the one with more limited IO found in the Orange Pi 5B and the Khadas Edge2. The S variant does not support dual 2.5gig LAN or the PCIe 3.0 x4 for the M.2 NMVe. I have confirmed that the front type c can run a type c monitor though you will certainly want to provide extra power to the monitor as the brightness is very low (my 16" 2560x1600 120Hz UPERFECT uses about 15W and the PSU for the Orange Pi 5 Plus is only 20W so understandable). I was using a 1TB M.2 NMVe but ended up settling on the 256GB eMMC that came with it. Note that the eMMC is proprietary and actually has two connectors instead of the one connector commonly found on other SBCs.
This really makes me feel so poor. I think this thing is literally faster than my PC I am on right now. i7-2600K 16gb ram. But I do have a 1070 video card a friend gave me. Lord retirement sucks.
RK3588! No "s"! The s is a specked down version with the same CPU and GPU, but much less IO. The 5 and 5b (no plus) have the S, and don't have the M.2 PCIE3 port at the bottom, nor 2.5gb ethernet, nor double hdmi, hdmi in
That's trading blows with the behemoths, woah buddy. They don't know know what.
This thing might be a beast as a emu station or home setup
I've watched people install ubuntu, then install docker, then install ubuntu in that docker. So you run the OS, only to emulate the OS for safety reasons? Weird eh, but hey its got the power, so w.e Just wish there was a damn vulkan driver,
its not that crazy actually. you cant trust hardware so some sandboxing is nice. Also you can more easily manage OS. @@lucusdownto
Lol, everyone in the Emu community is talking about the RP5, like the geeks they are. But you're right. I think this will run BOTW. The RP5, not so much. I am also looking forward to trying the Android distro and playing CODM. I'm pretty sure it will be able to run the HD textures at 1440p with 90-120fps based on playing it on my phone. The RK3588 is pretty close in performance to the Exynos 1280. Gonna be crazy seeing that on my 43" monitor.
Someone ran fornite on 4gb model and it got 30 fps only problem was the shaders not working properly on it
A linux video would be amazing for this board for things like switch emulation as well as box86 steam.
The thing about Orange Pi 5 and Android is that a good amount of games are made for touchscreen and you might be better of with their Android 12 version with touchscreen which was last updated (for vanilla OPi5) this November. This version feels really nice although not perfect still it has less issues than Droid OS which for vanilla OPi 5 was last updated this April. You can literally make yourself an Android tablet like device with 16/32GB RAM and 1TB SSD that you can use for Linux and Batocera on the side or vice versa. Furthermore you can also use it with openFyde that has both Linux and Android subsystems which is neat but last time I tried it did not work with touchscreen.
I feel that 32GB is overkill for gaming and is more on the server side of things however I would like to point out Orange Pi 5 has a long way to go in terms of software support but it will start getting there maybe starting 2024. Personally I even bought one for my father so he can use it for a secondary PC on his TV and expect it to be useful to him in the coming years.
On a second note I want the Orange Pi 3B to also get a bit of spotlight while it is not as powerful as OPi 5 it offers 8GB RAM, WiFi+BT, both NVMe and eMMC slots for around of 70$ with 256GB eMMC which is a sweet considering current prices. It is also slightly less powerful than RPi4.
Lol, this is a board that is designed to be used in an embedded environment not to build a bad game console. 😂😂😂
The only games I play on Android support controller. There is absolutely no argument you can make for playing CODM with a touchscreen being better than controller. Touchscreen is a fundamentally laggy and unresponsive input interface with zero tactile feel. After 40 years of gaming, I also much prefer a controller to mouse and keyboard.
I wonder if Apex Legends Mobile ever bothered to put in controller support...
If Max Payne can have it, any game can.
This could make a full-fledged desktop computer. I hope they're more of it's kind coming up in the near future.
I already use Orange PI 5 Plus as work computer for development. With Arch it's responsive and good
@@alexmorgun851 I bought one to initially use as a Linux desktop for taking a cybersecurity course. Some people want to use them to play games, other people want to use them to do work. There isn't a whole lot of in-between. It isn't like they are going to replace the desktop computer overnight. But once Windows on ARM is better developed, maybe. My OP5 Plus 16GB wasn't cheap but it will blow the doors off a comparably priced N95 mini PC and is more versatile.
You put Pro in the title instead of Plus for the model name. Based on their website and your description I think Plus is the correct one.
and it's not all-new. it's the same product with increased ram.
43 days since you dropped the classic ETA Prime intro. Hate to see you going away from your roots. I know its something small but it really made you stand out.
I'll add a vote for a look at the desktop OSes - particularly Ubuntu and DietPi.
@ETAPRIME I didn't find an Orange Pi 5 pro at their site and also no configuration with a RK3588s (except the Orange Pi 5), are your sure your datas are correct?
oh man, don't confuse me, there's actually an Orange Pi 5 Pro coming out. It is Standard Size. 2 HDMI flat. with audio out in the middle, 40 GPIO, very much looks like a Pi 3B, with m.2 nvme, emmc, 1 ram stack, and has Wi-Fi built in, so in comparison I'd say the original pi 5 (which I have, is now crappy, the 5B not bad and preferred over the OG 5 caue of NVME gen 2 speeds. other than size. the 5B has Wi-Fi and emmc, with the same everything else. Then the 5 plus is my favorite, I do plan to buy 5x 16GB, and 5x 32GB to create my homelab. As well as having a 32GB as my own play toy. And then offering customers the pi 5 plus, pi 5B, Rock 5B, Rock 3B, as hub's for my security and automated home setup. Because of the huge wifi bandwidth, nvme and emmc storage. It'll create a home cloud, home lab, servers for games that don't have servers anymore, or you just want your own, your own cloud will be a result of how many external High capacity self powered drives you attach, or adding a NAS. as well as adding external drives, 256GB emmc wil be used for all security footage analyzes, and then (because of price, not brand) Orange Pi Zero 3's and Zero 2W's will be used as Wi-Fi extenders, MCU's for sensors and reactors, as well as an ESP NOW mesh, which will also report to the 1GB Zero 2W's outside, Zero 3's when inside, Every single piece of tevch used will have it's own 18650 battery pack that is triple the required amount for a week of use without charge, each battery pack if outdoors get's charged by 1.5 time recommended amount of panels and 5v Wind turbines. All of that stuff will get spaced out enough to be more camouflaged, but also be used for other stuff. There will be several human detection radar, PIR, Motion sensors, Laser trips, vibration sense, and lastly faciual recognition either through Milk V Duo or LuckFox - either just pico, or one of the higher ones, atm I have pico mini A and a Pico Max otw, the milk V is here but no camera, with the ESP32 cam's only turning on when 2/4 human sensing sensors gets tripped. There could be 4 more human detection sensors but 2 sensors tripped like human radar detector, and any other, vibration motion, thermal, all kinds.Each pi zero will not create a net or blanket mesh, bt a fingers mesh, where each line of zero's is setup that way to create faster transfers up and down that line. The ESP NOW Mesh will be a fall back, but will also be used for it's own video streaming to a zero or to the hub. Facial really matter s for next bit. If 3 sensors detect you and everyone else as being part of the homegroup. ie you all live there, recordings halt. Will also be testing the Ox64, and all other boards that are small and specialize in facial, or person recognition that can combine that data with the radar and every other sensor collected to ensure that the people we are ruling out as homegroup members - there will be no doubt. Thus saving power, saving saved space, less writes and rewrites means less maintenance, and a 1GB Orange Pi Zero 2W is 3$ more than a wifi extender here, it's slower, but that;s not what we care about in this instance,
Early in the video he clarifies that "Pro" is his pet term for the 32gb version of this new "5 Plus"
Thanks for the video. I think it is a RK3588 and not a RK3588S as indicated in your video.
Optimusssss ETA Tank to you friend and what da faaaaaaa.. , Nice Christmas 2023-2024 Mr. ETA !
Man this is the one i been waiting for! Pi should have med this, such a shame. Just hope there are proper drivers ....
Would be nice to see if this could be used as home server using ubuntu or any Linux distros :)
I use it as a Server distro for my small company
There is a Ubuntu rockchip build that is getting close to being merged to the main upstream, so I see the future for these boards
I love how they are pulling an old fashioned Nintendo Strategy of bringing something that is easy to make and distribute at a low price and keeping costs down on parts. I see a lot more support now as well so they are catching up with the UK.
With the HDMI in, i would be interested in using it for something like a diy madvr for home theaters. Think about replacing a $10k video processor with a raspberry pi knockoff.
I’m super curious about that HDMI in. Are there any dev projects out there that can turn this thing into an all in one capture card with pass through, plus encoder recorder, plus streaming computer?
Is that too much to ask from this. I wonder if it has good hardware accelerated encoding, can it handle 1080p in, 1080p out, and then add a few overlays, encode, record, and stream 1080p.
The hardware acceleration's been something of a hard point for these boards - I have a NanoPC T6 which is very similar, spec-wise, and hardware acceleration isn't a given universally, things have to be built against the Rockchip and its HDMI-In and the like. Usually, commands are on the device's respective wiki to access it through GStreamer on Linux, and there's a dedicated app on dedicated Android images to access HDMI-In, but while it looks possible, it's not the most plug-and-play solution. I need to test more, personally, and I've seen MicroLinux do it with these boards with some success, but as it stands, it seems to take an Ubuntu-type distro with a particular display server and graphics stack and PPA with custom-built software to get hardware accel on OBS.
Belabox has a custom image for this thing, which basically makes it work like a liveu solo device, for IRL streaming.
They make nice hardware, and documentation is quite good.
But OS, firmware, drivers, GPU support - is often either only in android, or is MIA.
They have a lot of work to do on the software side to level up to the hardware side.
GPU support is in any OS, if you have sufficient skils he takes 20min to compile the kernel with the GPU support.
These are mainly boards for professionals if you are an amateur buy a Raspberry PI: you will get better experience out of the box with a very small knowledge.
@@blender_wiki Valid.
Except for one thing.
This applies equally to images the vendor supplies with the board. So - if this is a slot where its only 20 minutes for a relative skilled person to compile a kernel with GPU support - then this should have been done from the start.
So, take your snotty attitude, and your baseless point and jog on. My original point is as relevant right now, in exact response to your comment.
This isn't 1990. There are no excuses for this if the GPU driver code is available and can simply be compiled, and put within an OS image on the vendor site.
Nuff said.
Orange Pi 5 Pro: 32GB RAM
Apple: All Macs start at 8GB and cannot be upgraded
My Mac mini 2010: Upgraded to 16GB in under 60 seconds
Apple won't make that mistake again!
@@tschorsch I wish you were talking about the first apple mistake in the list
If I'm not mistaken this is the Orange Pi 5 Plus with the RK3588, not the RK3588S found on the Orange Pi 5, the Pro model has DDR5 + RK3588S and looks more like the Orange Pi 5, not the plus.
Orange Pi is an open source product brand of Shenzhen Xunlong Software Co., Ltd.
For people who are not familiar with geography, Shenzhen is in China.
The main problem this Rockchip based SOCs have is, they have issues with drivers and firmware. So basicly you have to do a lot coding and building your own images and often needed stuff is only by reverse engineering.
As you already said, you have issues with other provided images, that things dont work and only the android is working good.
This means you have to add stuff and build your own linux kernel and that is way to much for the normal user.
If the provided images from the manufactor dont even work with everything, how should a normal user get this stuff to work?
They're probably providing too many options. One or two Linux distributions (as well as android) with proper support would be better than a bunch of half supported options. That's always a problem with most of these Arm boarda. Even when it works, upgrading to a new version of the OS can be impossible.
I'd like to see Debian, Gnome desktop, since it has so much ram. As you say, because I'd like to see how the GPU drivers work.
I didn't like Debian or Gnome on this (I've a OPi 5+ w/ 16G ram.) I have enjoyed Ubuntu with Xfce4 - it's nice and responsive.
@@100-pc-notbot Thanks very much.
A video on the latest Linux-based Desktop OS would be great.
Btw, which Linux-based Desktop OS is the best for this SBC in your opinion?
armbian
Please test some Linux based distro to try OBS Studio as a recorder from HDMI input
MicroLinux had some success with other RK3588 boards.
Orange Pi 5 Plus boards are probably better fitted for NAS if an ASM1160 or JMB585 based SATA controller is plugged in the M2-M slot and this is nice to have a lot of RAM for a multipurpose server, but the 16 GB flavor would most probably suffice. The 2x2.5 GbE is indeed a must and WiFi is not required to my point of view for such board. I am currently setting up a NAS and surveillance station based on Radxa Rock 5B that does offer similar connectivity with a single 2.5 GbE port. The heart of these boards is the Rockchip 3588 SoC in any case, and You can expect decent performance in software RAID 5 for HDDs based arrays.
At 2'20", please note there is a mistake in the SoC summary: the chip is RK3588 (Orange Pi 5 Plus flavors) and not RK3588S, which drops the 4 PCIe lanes M2-M key and relies on simple GbE (original Orange Pi 5 and Pi 5B flavors). So 'S' might stand for 'stripped' ;-)
But I don't see much interest in this video, as the specific features of the Plus flavor are not tested at all, so the content here is just fine for the original RK3388S SoC based Pi 5 board as a multimedia and gaming alternative.
You could test Windows on this board, Renegade Project supports it.
This board sounds nice. Not one of the links provided to Amazon and Alibabi seems topoint to a 32GB RAM option, though. They DO point to 16GB machines, but that's no slouch either. Nice.
Got my order in before they ran out, but Orange has been having production issues with these apparently. I assume they’ll make more at some point.
@@JazzTechie Thank you! I'll wait 'til then. Frankly, my head is still reeling at the thought of a 32GB Pi SBC! Cheers!
For ARM server, Orangepi is fine. For embedded, better buy nanopi. What do you say?
Currently using 16GB model with Ubuntu 20.04. and that is total mess like every Ubuntu based PC's. Ignoring general Ubuntu issues, there is one large problem, and that's is called - Mali. That damn GPU drivers are so broken that I have wasted months to get working basic 3d acceleration. There is no NPU support, no Vulcan, no support at all in any OSes, only in Android. If developers will be interested in platform, it can be optimized and start beating Apple M series but that's only in future, +6 years 😉 And some general changes need to be made how arm64 support is handled from community side.
Please show Ubuntu OS on OrangePi as I’d li,e to build a desktop replacement with either a raspberry pi or orange pi. Step by step guide are highly appreciated
Please do more Orange Pi videos
You manage to do a full video of a new SBC without comparing it to Raspberry Pi 5? What are you doing?
With those dual 2.5G Ethernet ports, seems like it could be a good router. The hdmi in is intriguing, could it be like an open source capture card kind of thing? I’m also wondering what do you do with 32gigs of ram on one of these? Seems like it was built to be a jack of all trades.
32GB RAM? ZFS-based NAS of course...
This definitely is the Orange Pi 5 Plus , The "Pro" version actually has DDR5 and from my experiments does not support any of my monitors that support DP/Alt :( The price is nearly identical for the PRO which IMO has only one major benefit besides power draw and that's the raspberry pi5 like form factor. The benefits of DDR5 vs DDR4 has been negligible as I own both at 16GB versions as DDR5 may negate any power draw benefits the pro version has under generous load conditions. I'll also mention that their official OS still doesn't support NVME boot right out of the box (At least for the pro version) which is unfortunate. All in all, tend to use the Plus version more often which may be because it's connected to the main TV in the house but who knows. Really appreciate your videos bro, theyve definitely saved me some time and money, no shade for the fact check though :P
just found this amazing channel ❤
The title of this video is now confusing since they just (May 2024) released an official Orange Pi 5 Pro, which is a different product from the Orange Pi 5 Plus shown here.
I can't find a version with 32GB RAM. Even the official site just shows up to 16GB. What am I missing?
I am very interested in seeing how the Ubuntu and Debian images work on this board. I am looking for a good SBC for robotics with image detection and classification (OpenCV, ROS2, etc).
Did you get power draw for this thing? Wonder if it'd be a good always-on emacs & gcc thing
I ordered the 32GB version and should be getting it tomorrow, can't wait to test out some other OS, Great overview.
I ordered this early november.. so many delays
how much $ for 32gb?
@@markokraljevic1590 If you have to ask, it doesn't matter. You don't need it. 16GB is still twice as much as the RP5...and twice the cores too, lol.
I don't think 32GB RAM exist. Only see 16GB. 32GB might be the EMMC onboard storage.
@@StringFellow-Hawke-ek1bb they do have 32GB but in limited quantities.
Please clarify to us Confusiasts. Your main board picture of the Orange Pi Pro appears to INCORRECTLY show the Orange Pi Plus version. However, you said the Orange Pi Pro uses the black RK3588S version. If it is the "S" version, then it appears to NOT support HDMI INPUT. I hope that you take a 2nd look. Thanks, you got thinking.
Google Play out of the box and no side loading. I am going to buy one. I always wanted an android desktop or laptop. I just wonder how long it will have software support.
I love very much all the content you are uploading on youtube ! Super greate work !!!!! Can you please check the audio settings, the sound quality is not so good anymore. sound interruptions occurs all the time of video playback.
You've confused the RAM with the eMMC socket. The total RAM is either 4GB/8GB/16GB (LPDDR4/4x) (16GB is the max) and the eMMC socket is either 32GB/64GB/256GB (256GB is the max for storage). eMMC (embedded MultiMediaCard) which is flash memory (like a USB thumb drive) is used to store the app/programs in a permanent way. RAM (Random Access Memory) is the temporary place an app/program is placed in after it is first opened up. This allows for quick access later when reopening. RAM is cleared when the device it turned off (and the app/program is placed back into the MicroSSD card or an M.2 drive before the system is powered down). The two terms are NOT interchangeable.
eMMC (M.2 or MicroSSD etc) = permanent storage
RAM = temporary storage
While you are correct about the difference between EMMC and RAM, this board is available with 32 GB of RAM.
I checked their website and vendor, highest RAM version they got is 16GB. The 32GB is the EMMC onboard flash storage.
Mine is suppose to be here these week, as usually you get things before the rest of us.
Oh... its another 3588.
*shocked Pikachu face*
@@AlteredCarbons haha
It's not another, it's been out for a while, it just had a ra upgrade. But I understand. It's just too bad there's literally NO other SBC CPU that can compete atm.
Just because they have a single board computer, some people think you should fondle it as much as possible. That is not the case. Touch the electronics as little as possible.
since you have the board, have you tried to install the batocera image for orange pi 5 in this board?, Since it's literally the same chip I think it'll work but I wanna be sure...
So, can it do HDMI in on desktop Linux? That was always the weak point of the Rockchip SBCs, the HDMI input always only worked on Android.
The various RK3588 distros have always had some way to access via GStreamer on the CLI. Now if you're talking OBS, that's also possible, but usually requires special builds of things.
Would love this board if it had better gpu support. Or is it good in debian now?
I have the 16gb plus. It is snappy! I need to learn how to use that hdmi in.
En las especificaciones colocas rockchip RK 3588S, sin embargo es 3588 sin "S", la diferencia en ambas es el pcie lines.
min 2:30
Fantastic board, I think 32GB of RAM deserves a little explaining on how can it be leveraged and some Switch Emulation, especially now that Yuzu NCE version is officially on the Play Store.
Thank you for the news!
these boards can run proxmox, 32gig is very welcome when running vm's.
Most switch games crash, some that work are almost full speed without docked mode
It would be interesting to see a comparison video on emulation gains of this system vs. the pi4 on the most stubborn of games/consoles.
How will the CPU of the OrangePi measure to an Intel N100?
Given some BAD/uneducated comments, *PLEASE* , show 'em what this board is capable of with *FEX-EMU* . Also, consider adding it in the list of emulators when testing ARM boards. Sincerely.
Consider the following...I remember playing with CRYSIS and GTA4 on the Nvidia 9500 GT at 40 to 60fps, with a GPU delivering +-89.6 gflops and 4.4 GPixel/s.
The ARM Mali-G610 MP4
has 64 Shading units, Cache memory of 1.5 MB, Triangle fillrate of 1,376 MT/s, Pixel fillrate 48.0 GPixel/s *AND* 610.6 GFLOPS in FP32.
Moral of the story: with *FEX-EMU* you can run *THOSE* titles and *MORE* .
I would love to see the Indian primebook get tested on this Chanel I actually ordered one from India because I love the desktop experience on orange pi so I will be trying primebook to confirm if it capable of replacing my phone when it come to using my favorite apps
This is powered by the RK3588 not RK3588S. The latter does not support PCIe.
Armbian is one prominent OS to add to the list as well
I can't find the 32GB version anywhere. Not even on the OrangePi website.
Are you sure your OPi 5 actually has 32GB of RAM?
Raspberry is a credit card size SBC. This one has NUC sized. But any NUC will be better.
It's cute for a hobby board for sure.
I want to see ubuntu or arch running on this :D
Great review and 1st look as always. Would like to see some of the Linux distros, especially Ubuntu/
I have a Pi4 and Zero 2 for Retropie/Kodi and a mini PC.
Can't really see what I would need a 32GB RAM SBC for, though I'm sure it does have it's applications.
Quick, what projects do you have in mind for this thing?
I think I'm in love!
Love the video description. Did you use a chat bot? lol
at 0:48 you said it has dual gigabit ethernet when it actually has dual 2.5 gig ethernet
"Orange pi 5 pro" just came out with 16GB LPDDR5 6400mhz RAM, RK3588S, your need to change calling Orange pi 5 plus, with a "pro" in this 5 month old video 😮
Just a heads up that your commentary says "dual gigabit ethernet ports" but the block diagram shows 2 x 2.5gb. I assume the latter is correct.
Can you take at look at the Vicharak Axon? I wanna buy it, but kinda pricey for the specc. I am very interested in the 4 MIPI ports and the full size M.2 NVMe support along with a SATA controller on board. It would make an awesome companion pc for the ardupilot family of goodies, if its good.
Would it be possible to install and run iPad OS on the Orange pi 5 plus?
Or maybe Mac OS?
any chance you'll be able to check out the Orange Pi 5 MAX that was just released? It can do 4k 120 hz with av1 decoding-- I would love to know if Android TV OS could run on it as a direct replacement to the Nvidia Shield
Wish reviewers would do more than: Look it can play this game and utube. Show us Docker or Proxmox versatility!
Check out the AMD Radeon Pro W7500. I stumbled on this card researching my next build. It’s cheaper than the A2000, has the same wattage, and is single slot.
Great video! Can't find the 32 GB ram option anywhere. Any idea where one can purchase it or at least see pricing?
I'd be interested in seeing OpenFyde running on it, its much closer to ChromeOS
I'd like to see emulation on this board. Like a all in one console.
So how come you call it the Orange Pi 5 Pro, but their website calls it the Orange Pi 5 Plus? A bit pricey for me at $168. I think I would rather add a bit more and get a mini PC though the Orange Pi Plus does have gpio so that would be something to consider.
I would like to see you do a video where you put this thing through its paces as far as HDMI in. What HDMI input is it? 2.1? Does it support HDCP? How many frames can it handle at 1080p and 4k?
I'm curious if there's a proper ARM fork of Windows that'll work on that chipset. I do like Linux, but every time I try to use it long-term something goes wrong in the OS at some point, either my fault or the updater's fault, and it just stops booting properly. Windows may be outwardly jank as hell and woefully inefficient, but it is mostly reliable.
Are you sure it's "s", it looks like just 3588 in your video.
but.... this is a PRO or PLUS? i think exist differences... in your title you say PRO in description PLUS
Going to miss the old intro and outro music