Bypass VRO Oil Pump 1996 Johnson 150 HP
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- How to bypass your VRO system in your Johnson outboard. I bought this 1996 Johnson 150 hp OceanRunner off of craigslist 3 summers ago for $2000. I'd say I've gotten my money's worth out of it.
Recently it started pumping too much oil; about 2 gallons of oil to 50 gallons of gas. It was also smoking like crazy, start-up took some time, and it would not stay idling or idle properly. Now that I have removed the VRO system my engine starts right up and idles great.
I just got back from running the boat all day. I didn't have any problems with it. Each start-up was smooth and it idled great. I wish I'd done this last summer.
FYI: I think the wire coming from the Oil Tank to the engine may be black and brown, not tan and brown. Mine was all faded, so I'm not too sure what the actual color is.
UPDATE: I decided to try using the pump again as it was intended. I hooked everything back up and things were good for about 2 weeks. Then while heading offshore it died. I was able to get back by pumping the bulb about every 30 seconds. It would run about 2000 rpm or less just fine and would run full throttle just fine, but in-between and it would die unless I pumped the bulb periodically. I tried tightening all of the hoses and changing hoses out, thinking that there may be a leak somewhere. I also noticed that the VRO housing seemed to be slightly warped in places where to parts came together. I bought a rebuild kit for the pump, but no luck there. Eventually purchased a NEW VRO and installed it. Everything works just fine now. Who knows what part of the VRO was actually the problem. I'm back on the water now.
Thanks for posting this! Still helping guys like me 7 years later lol. Just bought a 91' 120 Johnson and yeah I trust myself to mix the oil and gas more than that vro system lol
Thanks for posting, video really helped me out. I did this to my twin 175 ocean pros and they are running better than ever with so much less smoke at startup and idle. The VRO rebuild parts were very expensive so now I just mix 50:1 and all is good. With 20yr old engines this is fine with me. I find it easier to mix the gas and oil myself due to the oil fill location on my boat. Since I generally fill up with either 100 or 150 gallons (have a 200 gal tank) I either use 2 or 3 gallons of oil and then I'm set for the weekend. Super easy.
john doe right on. Glad the vid helped.
Can anyone tell me how there engines ran after VRO disconnect? im thinking about disconnecting mine on a 200 Ocean Pro 1997
I was waiting for that cowling and silencer to fall into the water while watching your video; but I was disappointed. Actually thanks for the video. This explains the reason why my boat had the oil pump disconnected and the gas was mixed with oil when I got my "new to me" boat.
Sorry to disappoint. To calm for that to happen.
Same
That’s the strongest water pump I have ever seen
Funny. I never even noticed. Definitely a quality stream.
Just deleted my vro changed lower unit oil an now it will not pump water on the hose so I am going to do the pump don’t know the history on the motor
@@brandone6252 yeah. Probably a good idea to replace that impeller. Maybe you'll get some flow like mine.
Nice work!! Thanks for showing us how to do it!!
Bill
I did the same thing to my 70 hp Johnson. Now I can use the same fuel line for my kicker that runs on premix because my main tank is now premix. My engine smoked so much at start up when the VRO was hooked up. I hated it...it ran like crap till it warmed up.
Now its good from the second you turn the key.
I took the complete VRO system out , It had air leaks and was nothing but a problem. I now run premix in the tank and an electric fuel pump installed where the VRO system use to be. :)
Do you remember what fuel pump you installed? Doing the same to my 150
Johnson just dumped a bunch of VRO pumps on the market for cost so now you can get a brand new one for 145 and the upgraded works great compared to the older version.
You have a link to the product that you can share?
He’s right you can get a brand new upgraded VRO kit on eBay for $145
Pre-mixing at 50:1 you’re going to be wasting a lot of oil
@Bruce Bonfiglio true that’s why I Do routine maintenance Not just on the motor but also the complete oiling system , I have a 99 Johnson 225 I Purchased new as an upgrade for the yammy 150 that was on my Grady White when I bought it now 22 years later I just replaced the tank and pump pro actively I live in Florida so I use the boat year around and it’s got over 5k hours
The reason vro system got a bad rep is because people neglected them but that’s just my opinion
@@johnbumpus7138 All I see are super expensive new ones. Any chance you know where I can find a $150ish one? Link?
No, you're right, but the pump is still pumping. All I've done here is disconnect the oil hose coming into the pump (and cap it off really good) and also removed the electrical plugs coming into the pump. I know one of them is for the warning signals and I'm sure the other one has something to do with the oil system (telling it to pump more or less oil).
The Fuel hose is still connected and the pump is mechanical, not electrical, so it still pumps fuel just fine.
Would it not pump good if the bolt you use it to small? I put a hose clamp in it but I don't think it is tight enough. My engine cut off when I was coming back in from fishing it still turns over it just won't start.
@@danielmorrison9055 yeah. I had a problem when using a smaller bolt. That could be the issue. It's not hard to take the VRO apart to see if the fuel pump diagram is cracked. I suggest checking it.
They make a conversion kit that includes a new calibrated high flow fuel pump without the oil injection pump it’s $65 on eBay It also comes with a plug-in signal killer so no more low oil light
@@johnbumpus7138 I know this is a year later so maybe I missing it somewhere I see the conversion fuel pump but not the by pass for the low oil? Do you happen to have exactly what you used and what worked for you?
I use to own a 1992 Evinrude XP 200 with the VRO system & it worked great. I would Never consider taking it off that Outboard as long as it was working. If it was to ever have gone out, Quit working, I would have replaced it with a New one. I'm now going to be running a 85 Johnson 9.9 Outboard where I will be mixing the fuel & oil 50:1 and have mixed fuel before for other Evinrude /Johnson outboards the same way without any problems. Good luck with your Outboard, It looks as if it runs good !
I guess I may delete VRO from my Johnson 115 and go with pre-mixing. An additional benefit of going with pre-mixing on my boat is that I will no longer need the oil tank on my boat and therefore have an extra much-needed storage.
Within the whole VRO pump assembly, my oil pump is still working (oil consumption verified with clear tubing). But when I turn on my key without cranking (fuel pump starts working at this point), the very front 'no oil circuit' actually gives SMOKE right away! My guess is that there may be a short circuit inside the 'no oil circuit' part ('sensor') due to some corrosion, water intrusion or other reasons.
I'm not sure if how I can fix the 'no oil circuit' part. I can take it from my boat, but don't know I can open it up and fix the possible electric short circuit inside. So either go with pre-mixing or buying a new whole VRO pump. I only burn about 70 gallons of fuel annually. So I guess I'm going to be fine with 4-5 times of premixing every year, and not spending $400 on a new VRO pump.
When you start changing things around something else screws up, Ive used Walmart oil for years with no problem,some of us cannot afford $35.00 gallon jug of oil.
1DesertCop The VRO is a oil mixing sysytem/fuel pump. Most of the OMC motors have the VRO and when they start to go bad people typically just disconnect the oil and use it just as a fuel pump. This gets rid of the VRO mixing the fuel to lean/rich and gives peoole the peace of mind from the pump because if the oil stops getting fed, the motor will blow. Also a new VRO is a $400 part, this is a cheap/free fix.
Fisherman466 Variable Ratio Oiling just run three ounces to a gallon never have a problem OMC s abortion all they had was problems with that system I set my etec computer to tcw3 oil setting so runs heavy oil that xd 100 setting is too lean for me on the etecs JT
Vro has killed lots of motors
At the correct 50 to 1 ratio for premix your motor WILL run just a tad bit oil rich at idle... don't worry about it...!
This video was very helpful thank you
Premixing fuel protects and lubricates the entire fuel system. 2 stroke oil now has additives to help combated the ethenol..moisture.. in today's gasoline.
The VRO is an excellent system, but is that $500 replacement pump going to last 20+ years as the original.
i did the same to my 50 johnson but i went out and bought a new pump, i about to do the same on a 200 oceanrunner but was wondering do you get a no oil light on your dash for the motor since you disconnected the wires that let you know the levels of your oil can.
Sounds like Lucas is having the same problem as I am. Once VRO is disconnected electrically, does the fuel side of VRO still operate as a fuel pump or do you need to add a fuel pump to maintain proper fuel pressure? How does the VRO still pumps fuel mechanically if the electrical leads are disconnected, I don't see any mechanical connection? Is the motor pulling fuel through a vacuum created by the motor once started? Need Help with this, Thks.
What about the alarm that goes off when the bro detects no oil?
got the same problem as you did but changed the vro (expensive) and guess what! The pump was not broken still same problem so now i premix instead. I guess its has to do with the electrical system on the vro but just guessing and its running fine with premixing.
I see this post as a little bit older but I do want to recommend using 100:1 Amsoil oil mix it will help you out with detonation problems if it's still alive on the Walmart oil it will truly last you a lifetime
Daniel Boone a year or two after making this vid, I bought a new VRO pump and installed it. Just last year I sold it and the guy who bought out says it's still running strong. It's a great motor with tons of power.
all Johnsons need 50:1!
My dad took the cover off of that on his boat!
My question is.... If your disconnect your vro how does your engine get fuel? Vro is oil and gaspump at the same time or am i wrong
Oil pump is separate from the gas pump. I’ve disconnected every one I have ever had. They are the cause of so many blown motors.
I bought a busted boat that had a good Johnson 1988 110 hp motor. I wanted the motor and trim for my bass boat that has a force motor and trim that won't work and I cant get new parts for it. Dude said he had work done to engine and it runs fine. Don't add oil it is a four cycle. OK, great.....get it home, oil tank full, take fuel line and put it in my gallon of gas that has sea foam in it to clean carb and engine. started it up after some cranking and after a few minutes alarm goes off. Upon investigation and looking harder. The three wire harness for the oil pump was dry-rotted and appears mice chewed through two of the wires but I did not see it. Makes me wonder how much damage I just did to the engine.......craaaaaaap!!!!!!!! So I thought screw this. Watching your video and others I have come to the conclusion ten its safe to just add oil to the fuel and bypass the oil pump. Tanks for your video. I only hope I did not damage the engine.
Good luck with the engine.
My son just got a 1996 Ocean Runner 150. It is a project. Any other info and tips would be greatly appreciated!
It's a great engine. Tons of power.
If the VRO works properly, keep it installed. If it's old, he should probably purchase a rebuild kit for it. I may have linked it in the description.
The carbs are plastic and I've seen them warped before. This allows for leaks and overall poor performance. High temp can cause this. Just make sure it is peeing properly.
If you have any other questions, just ask. I'll answer if I know.
i use pre mix too,ive heard way to many stories about the oil pump not working and the motor blowing up and costing over 6k to rebuild..
How you delete the code after do it that because the motor entero in safe mode like when you are in low oil now I can't run fast
Don't spend your money on the VRO SYSTEM......mix the oil with the gas and more than that use REC 90. Don't ask me how I know. 22 year replacement parts are not in high demand, therefore replacements if they are still making them are pretty outrageous. As mentioned before too much smoke at idle and startup is much better than seized Pistons.
Does this affect the crack getting oil? I have a 225 Johnson and everything looks the same to me and I’m feeding way to much oil then I should
@@JonathanGurgacz what's the crack?
Hey....i have sea ray 150 outboard 2 stroke and its hard to start....thinking of doind this and adding a low pressure pump....any feed back?
If you're having trouble stating, that's probably associated with a different problem. I'd look for other issues first.
Hey guy, did you by any chance have to change the jets High and low speed office on each carb?
why would you need to rejet? air fuel mix is still the same. only now the fuel carries the oil instead of the oil being injected. These are known for over oiling at low rpm and failing at high rpm melting the motor down
@@dirtydevil283 Have an 50hp VRO Fukin love it smokes a bit at a troll other than that VRO evil ,just urban legend few fail ,,its always " I know a guy who knows a guy crap.
will this cause the fuel pump to go bad? I disconnected the oil part of the VRO when I got my boat 2 summers ago, but now the fuel pump is bad. won't it constantly be trying to suck oil that it's not getting? I would replace with a regular fuel pump but I don't want to jag around with the bracket issue, so I was just going to replace with another VRO, but won't it just go bad again?
The fuel pump will continue to work whether or not the oil is hooked up. I had mine in this condition for quite some time without issue, however I ended up installing a brand-new VRO pump a few years later. I was happy with the decision to go back to the VRO pump.
How much trust do you have in the new vro's?
Good job because if the oil pump doesn't pump oil the engine will burn up
Guyanese Gamer ?
If it fails I think it goes to full flow, not zero flow.
I just did this to a Johnson 150 commercial series and now I have no spark on 3 cylinders? Any body have any information? Is the computer putting it into limp mode?
Did you ever find out why no spark ? I'm dealing with the same thing right now . After pump replaced, no spark..
why would you unhook it and then replace the VRO? Im looking at disconnecting mine but maybe I shouldnt
Originally didn't want to spend the $$$ on a new pump.
If it works, no need to bypass it. My only reason to bypass it was $$$.
@@JimWellman vro broken when idle and cut after few second? My V6 spitfire start but cut few second later :(
@@Mr19011989 you may need to rebuild the VRO pump.
Hi jim, I just bought a boat with the same motor same year and and replaced the power pack optical sensor plugs and wires. I'm having a problem my motor will run great then all of a sudden when I'm running 3/4 to wide open throttle the boat will bog down and pretty much do nothing when I hit the throttle. It will still idle fine also I noticed if I hook the motor up to my 6 gallon temp tank the motor will clear up and run good again. There isn't any trash in the fuel tank do you think this could be my fuel pump or possibly my fuel line ?
Definite possibilities. Have you tried to pump the bulb on the fuel line when this happens? If it starts ruining again, the fuel pump may be your problem. And the fuel pump is part of the VRO.
Another possibility is that the carburetors may have a leak. Or if you have a fuel water separator, it may be loose or have a leak at the seal.
@@JimWellman I've tried to pump the bulb with no results. I'm wondering if some how condensation got into my gas tank and is causing this. I'm going to get a bottle of heet and see if it runs better.
@@tylerthomas3744 there may be a hole in the fuel pump diaphragm. I made a vid showing how to rebuild the VRO. You may want to take it apart to check for cracks in the diaphragm. I also posted a link to a website that sells the rebuild kits in the description.
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@@JimWellman thank you I'll pull it apart and look at it
Probably the fuel line. I have a 1999 150 ocean pro and I swear I thought I cracked the head cause I got the motor to hot (forgot to put hose on it) long story...anyway it would do fine until about 100 to 200 yrs out on the water. I told service man a probably of cracked head or etc... come to find out the motor was fine. But the problem was the fuel line was calapsed. I think the vacuum running it hard would make the fuel line calapse qnd it would eventually stop running. Anyway it's probably fuel line.
Why did you decide to switch back? Did you run into problems running only the fuel side or just get tired of pre-mixing? I'm having similar issues and considering disconnecting the oil injector.
I switched back for 1 reason, well maybe 2, but 2 doesn't really count.
Reason 2 is so I don't have to mix any longer.
Reason 1 is that my old pump was just not keeping the suction it needed to work properly. I rebuilt the thing , but the plastic parts appeared slightly warped and I believe this was preventing the engine from keeping prime. The main symptom was that the motor would try to die on me...unless I went to the back and pumped the bulb about every 20 seconds.
I decided to bite the bullet and purchase a new VRO which fixed everything.
You do need to make sure the oil side is capped real tight if you disconnect it. Mine worked for a couple weeks with only that bolt in it, but then I put a regular plug in it. That worked for a week or so, but then the old problems came back as stated above. That's when I purchased the new VRO pump and I'm glad I did.
Jim Wellman
Hi Jim Thanks for this.I just bought a 115 that blowing a heap of smoke on start up.Would you reccomend that i disconnect as you had done or not? Why did you go back to a new system, any particular reason we should know prior to disconnect / thanks for youre time and the useful knowledge. Trevor from OZ
The wrong part in oil pump is the shaft
It is slightly bent
how I mix the oil to fuel mix say for the evinrude 150hp outboard if im gettin an second hand boat but was unsure bout the VRO had been disabled or not what is the right premix ratios for these motors as im gettin an older bowrider boat with these motors from 1991 onwards and need to knew how much oil to put in the tank of the Caribbean Calais has a 135litre tank im not sure how to mix the oil and the fuel for the boats with larger tanks that are larger than 25litres as I also need help to learn how to get the correct premix ratios for larger boats with the evinrude V6 150hp outboard as im researching the boat with these motors this will mention the boats in good order as I knew as an ex outboard mechanic I worked on these motors this was some 19yrs ago and I knew that these are the motor I worked on all these years ago as I have the knowledge on them as I knew the brands you talked on about as a self taught mechanic I knew the outboards well mainly evinrudes that's including the Johnsons too they are the sae I think so as I knew the same problems are the same with the Johnsons too as I worked on the same motors of both brands as you knew I have the knowhow to fix these outboard motors as a ex outboard mechanic I had the knowledge as I learn all on these motors as a lifelong boater I knew a lot on these motors very well and knew how to fix these evinrude V6 150hp outboards I knew I have this learnt from my boatin experience all I knew I can fix any evinrude mainly the older carbie models this relates to the V6 90deg models and the smaller 90deg V4s as well I knew how to fix them outboards as I knew how to fix them I was taught how to service them and fix them too that's what I knew on the evinrudes I have a strong connection to them due to my long boatin experience in Australia that's how I learnt on them these are the good motor built by OMC they are good unlike the others that's are not so good as evinrude/Johnson they are the best in outboards the evinrudes/Johnson built by a good maker that's OMC they are very good motor in the industry I knew that's the case
Should be 50:1
that's good to know this as I have to learn this as I get my 1st evinrude 150hp V6 outboard on a older bowrider boat that's either a Haines hunter or Caribbean Calais just need to learn a bit more on the right ratios with the larger tanks in the boats im researching at this moment I do agree this will be right as I am old salty I will be happy to talk more on this subject as I knew I will learn as I go on these premix outboards that's is the evinrude V6 150hp 90deg models these are the motor im researching as of now need to learn more as im in the process of getting the boat I want with these motors but will take on advice if the need to as I lean of others in the care of these motors and im getting there with the boat I wanted with these motor on the back thank my friend im always leaning on boat that's very good that hint
an I knew this is right premix ratios but I knew I will be learning on this stuff this why im gettin good on this stuff
and need to know this as im gettin the knowhow on these outboards but are learning all the time hope this will help me this is new to me
if is ok to mix the oil to fuel with boat that has larger fuel tanks say the boats like the Caribbean Calais with the 135litre fuel tanks as im confused as to the right procedures when filling up as the servo if better to put the oil in first in the right amounts then put the fuel in as I do that I add the oil at the right amount what are your thoughts on this as I am gettin a nice boat in the future with an evinrude 150hp V6 that's an older model on a older boat that's im gonna fix up over time the outboard will be checked but I will need the help on this as im gettin my first 150hp evinrude as I only knew the smaller evinrudes that's the 25hp models I knew on but the 150hp model will be my first V6 outboard on my first big boat can you guide me on how to start these outboards this regarding the choke and warming up procedures and how I mix the right oil for the fuel for the 1st time as im used to smaller outboards but the big 150hp models are a bit new for me
My boat recently broke down on the water and we had to be towed. The fuel bulb was cracked so we bypassed the bulb straight to the engine. We were able to get her started, but as we ran the boat it started losing power in spurts eventually died on us. We were able to get it started 1 more time in which smoke started shooting out of the back, we shut it down and were unable to start it after that. We had to be towed to the docks. When I cleaned the carbs they were full of fuel and oil mixture which seemed to contain more oil than fuel. Other than that they were pretty clean i side. After putting the carbs back on and starting the engine, unfortunately there is still allot of smoke coming out of the back. I ran the engine for a couple of minutes, off and on for a total of around 4-6 minutes. I have a 1996 Johnson 2 stroke outboard with a seperate VRO Oil tank. Do you know what the problem may be that is causing all the smoke. Your help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Chris Williams disconnect your vro and pre mix your oil
gas restricted ? = thus less gas and reg amount of oil
I am looking to purchase a boat that has a 1996 90 HP Johnson motor on it I was wondering how reliable this motor is and is there anything I need to be wary of thank you.
I'll get back to you after dinner.
If it is anything like the 150, I'd get one.
The VRO pump is something to read about and be familiar with. It can be rebuilt fairly easily.
If it has plastic carbs they can warp, which can be an issue.
The engine has tons of power and is known to last long. I was happy with mine.
Hi Mate my evinrude 115 V4 is soaked with 2 stroke oil inside the motor , at the carburettor intake and all the spark plugs are very wet with 2 stroke. Can it be that the VRO is pumping way to much 2 stroke oil that necessary. Thanks in advance
Could be. You may want to remove and rebuild the VRO pump. Also clean up all that oil and run the engine again. If still same problem exists, you may need a new VRO.
I'm guessing the circuit card in your VRO may be faulty.
@@JimWellman Thanks a lott Jim is the circuit card a electronic programming card.
@@plc7957 it's the thing you see that's covered in silicon. And yes it's programmed, but nothing you could access and reprogram yourself.
I did the same as on this vid. Now having problem with the engine stroking at some stage. If she stopes running for some time..even few minutes, sometimes I need to pump up the gas again. Than she gives me back cloud of smoke, chokes a bit..or lot before she sings back to higher RPM. But sometimes works perfect. Took her to the service afterwards, they did not found any irregularities, there and than worked just perfect. So she might have her "period" from some other problem, not the farewell to VRO... (Feeling confused)
I ran mine like this for a while and then decided to get up off of my wallet and purchase a new VRO pump. I installed it and my boat has run great ever since.
After you disconnect the VRO. If you have an air leak on the oil line coming into the VRO pump will your fuel pump quite working? I bought my boat with the VRO already taken off and discovered the hose was open going into the VRO. I also reconnected the plug not knowing why the were unplugged. After seeing your video I have blocked the hose and disconnected the electrical connections. Unfortunately I added an electric fuel pump in line to get me up and running. Now I am wondering if I should by-pass it and see if my engine fuel pump works. I believe the bolt come out and cause the pump to quite working and was the root cause of my problem? Any comments...
Brian Wilson I'm sorry to say this, but I'll have to leave this to someone else to answer. My boat is in FL and I'm in AZ working. Check out some forums out there. I'm sure you'll find the answer.
An electric fuel pump will work just fine as long as its providing the right gph
How can you still use the vro as a fuel pump if you disconnect all the wires?
Wires I disconnected are for an alarm.
because the pump is not electrical.. needs only vacuum.
This is how vro fails. It jumps max oil. Every evginebfailure is blamed on vro if it is there to blame.
In reality the only way you will seize your engine is if you get water in your oil tank.
will this work on a 150 hp?
This engine is a 150.
I did everything you did and I took my boat out and the fuel isn’t getting to the motor like it should I’m having to pump the bike to fuel every 5 second for gas to get to the engine
The diaphragm on the fuel pump could be cracked. You need to take it apart and check for that. If that's the problem you'll need to buy a rebuild kit for the VRO pump. I may have listed it in the description of one of my videos.
Jim Wellman so the wires I unplugged from the fuel didn’t make it do that?
@@brandonfaulkner3542 no. The pump is mechanical, so it doesn't use electricity to operate.
Jim Wellman what if I took the primer bulb away and replaced it with an inline fuel pump? Will that hurt anything by doing that
@@brandonfaulkner3542 you shouldn't remove the primer bulb because you wouldn't be able to prime the engine if you needed to. I've seen some people bypass the VRO pump by adding a fuel pump in line as you speak of and it works, so you could try it , but I would definitely keep the bulb
What was the wires you unplugged from the fuel/oil pump for?
Alarm wires so it wouldn't beep as a result of no oil flow.
Jim Wellman, have you had any problems with your motor since you bypassed the VRO?
@@brandonfaulkner3542 not at all, but about a year after bypassing the VRO, I installed a completely new VRO pump.
@@JimWellman If it is working well, why did you install a new one? sounds bs...it must be not working or you would not put a new vro
@@EASYRIDERTOO sounds like no matter what I tell you, you won't believe it, but I'll try anyway. The reason I went back to the VRO system is so I wouldn't have to mix oil any longer. The VRO mixes oil at a ratio it feels is best under the current load. A 50:1 oil ratio is always 50:1 and never more and never less.
But the main reason is $$$. When I decided to go back to VRO, I had the money to do so. When I originally bypassed the VRO, I had just gotten out of the Navy, was going to school, and money was tight.
I found a similar boat and engine Looking at Purchasing
It's a great engine.
these pumps are not elec pump they are Vaccum for the guys asking the other ????s
Good looking boat, aquasport 196?
Yes. A 1974 19-6. I just removed everything a couple weeks ago in preparation for sanding it down and repainting.
@@JimWellman sweet Are you on the classic forum? Check it out classicaquasport.com
too much oil can detonate a 2 stroke! people always say "better more oil than less" or "you can never give it too much oil" they will learn the hard way. also, VRO has been given such a bad rap. People just need to know how to properly maintain the VRO, and it will reward you with no problems. Just requires more maint. than other systems! TIP: ALWAYS CHECK THE VRO FILTER AND REPLACE ANY OLD HOSES THAT ARE CRACKED! People seem to think its ok to have the tank exposed to the sunlight... bad move as it cracks the hoses in record time
The problem isn't enough oil its too much oil which is also horrible for a 2 stroke
For those of you who have given this video a thumbs down or are going to do so, tell me why. Is it because you are a fan of your VRO and like to defend it at all cost or do you not approve of my garbage video skills? Just curious.
I am about to start premixing on my 99 Johnson Ocean Pro 150 but after reading your comments again you have me thinking your attempt was unsuccessful. You had multiple issues when bypassing VRO and so you went back. So I guess now you would not recommend bypassing VRO right?
following !
@@jimv1484 sorry I never replied to this, but no. Bypassing it works perfectly fine. And I would do it again. I just came into a little bit of money later on and decided to go ahead and do it the right way. In my opinion it is much easier to fill an oil tank than it is to premix with the fuel. Premixing only gives someone the piece of mind, so they know there's always oil there.
Again… If I had it to do all over again, I would bypass the VRO if the budget was tight.
If money wasn't a concern, I would install a new VRO pump.
How did you eliminate the oil alarm?
I disconnected the brown wires that I show during the video.
I should also note that when I say that I capped them, I just mean I wrapped tape around them, so nothing could get into the connections.
Jim Wellman - I bought a bass boat from original owner and he has already done the elimination of the oiler and reservoir. He has the alarm/ buzzer in dash disconnected. I’m guessing because it’s always sending a oil alarm. Thing is I don’t have a working alarm now for low water pressure or over heating. I’m trying to reconnect the alarm but eliminate just the oil warning.
@@joshuapotter1869 I don't have a schematic showing how to accomplish that. I'm guessing that all alarms would be lost if this is disconnected if this is the wire which goes to the noise maker.
The first thing I did when I got my Johnson 225HP was removing the VRO system because it doesn't work perfectly and can blow up the motor due lack of oil
When they fail, it pumps max oil. Have you even seen a vro fail? In 40 years I have not.
@@brianmorrison9066 you are lucky... only the Yamaha has reliable oil system...
I still haven't seen a vro fail that wasn't cause by the owner ie. Water in the oil tank, wrong oil, exc.
If it's smoking it's getting oil
Hey man I have a question. I bypassed the VRO and everything is pre-mix but now I have a beeping noise sometimes that when I go faster it beeps faster but it doesn’t do it all the time it may do it once or twice every time I take the boat out. Sometime it just beeps 3 times and then it won’t do it anymore. What could this be? It’s not overheating because I have a Pee stream shooting out and the engine it self isn’t hot.
Did you disconnect the alarm wires?
I just want to know what the brown and tan cable does in the motor?
I think it's the sensor wire that tells the engine if there is oil in the tank, and if not, the buzzer goes off...I think.
Why not tie 2 wires together telling motor oiltank is full ?? Wouldn't that work ? Idk
Cutting hose to vro is it necessary a have to ? Thanks for sharing
I'm not sure what you mean.
@@JimWellman the hose you cut and capped off. I disconnected hose from tank to motor it's visible beside gas hose your's is covered. I unplugged the same 4 wire connect and tapped it up ... Hose coming from vro you cut and capped off I did too still fire's up and smokes that's fine . It quit peeing though I cut off and got a new water pump going to change tommorow hope that's it. Anything come to mind why stop peeing. Thanks again man appreciate your time
@@tracymathis8855 this shouldn't affect the water pump. The water pump is mechanical and operates as a result of the shaft spinning. Shouldn't be affected by lack of power to any component. Something to note about the water flow is that the thermostat is designed to allow water to flow out of the engine once the engine is at a specific temperature or above that temperature. Your engine is designed to operate at a specific temperature and therefore the thermostat maintains that temperature by opening or closing depending on how hot or cold your engine is.
I had an old mercury that always seemed to take forever to warm up. Once it did, the thermostat opened and water would flow.
Another possibility is that your thermostat is bad and therefore locked in the closed position. It is very simple to replace a thermostat.
@@JimWellman Thanks Jim I will go ahead and replace the thermostat to be on the safe side. Did not get a chance to change water pump today my son passed his last test he's officially SWAT only being a officer for 2 years. But me and him are going to change water pump tomorrow every mechanic says most likely why not peeing expecially propeller inside lower unit said need to change on any used motor purchase cheap and quickly changed? I'm no mechanic but now thermostat is added to list. Appreciate your time and help hopefully it will be peeing strong stream check my propeller I'm older than engine Lol Viagra for motor overnight millionaire intervention. Thanks again and have a great Labor day weekend
Jim I already had water pump and propeller thermostat makes real good sense now after thinking back I almost certain it is the thermostat matches what you describe to a t heck motor is going to have extras thank goodness for Amazon prime very low cost may have just jinx hadn't checked thermostat price I'll let you know results when done
Be careful on how you mix the oil becuse the carbs will go bad if you mix too much
What the hell is he doing, ??
You're gonna have to elaborate
Oil injection is the most useless thing ever put on a Boat Motor..
I think its one best things personally. As long as its reliable obviously. Lots of benefits.
making mess! Run at least semi syn killing fish
I need to bypass mine Sam motor. Can you send me a pic of the fuel lines above the vro. To of the primer swith. I don't know where the 2 hoses connect. Thanks.
I re-powered a couple of years ago, so I don't have it anymore.
Switched to a 4 stroke.