Necalli, The Failed Street Fighter Character

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2024
  • Today we talk about Necalli from Street Fighter V, the character who was new to the franchise, nominally the "boss" of SFV, infront of a lot of the marketing at the time, and wound up all these years later completely forgotten with zero legacy behind him. How did this Prince turn into Poochie? Well lets talk about it!
    0:00 - Intro
    1:35 - Say nice things before you say bad things
    3:41 - Nobody believes in a Jobber
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  • @rooflemonger
    @rooflemonger  ปีที่แล้ว +250

    So this is a video I have been tossing around in my head for a while. How Necalli, a character that was all new for SFV and at the forefront of all the marketing, the friggin V in SFV, wind up becoming a character with absolutely zero legacy? I think a big part of it is the story mode which came out months after launch basically did him in, thinly guised character assassination, and then following it years later Capcom doing their best to bulldoze the fact Necalli was ever a thing to begin with. We certainly won't be seeing him come SF6, and to that point basically nobody cares as nobody wants to see him. So enjoy the vid, thumbs up like all that stuff!!

    • @MrTBSC
      @MrTBSC ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i suppose i´m nobody then ...

    • @beingwokewithknowledgenotf4175
      @beingwokewithknowledgenotf4175 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Street fighter 5 story is what killed him in my opinion because Street fighter 5 hasn't been paying attention to the story and that's what potentially destroyed him as a whole in my book

    • @ektran4205
      @ektran4205 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      meso-american character

    • @VAFranky
      @VAFranky ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think it also hurt that he's 5 feet tall and his moveset is boring I thought his design was really neat and Capcom wasted his potential.

    • @VAFranky
      @VAFranky ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrTBSC "basically nobody" and that's a fact. If it weren't you'd see people asking for him to come back in 6 which "basically nobody" is.

  • @AnEveryManJack
    @AnEveryManJack ปีที่แล้ว +175

    The first problem was making him this "warrior devouring entity" that kind of implies that he would kill characters in a series where characters are incredibly important.

    • @SomniaCE
      @SomniaCE 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      That's moreso a flaw of fighting games stubbornly forcing roster entries to be canon. Kill a character but put em in future games as noncanon.
      It is fine, people will live.

    • @gregvs.theworld451
      @gregvs.theworld451 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@SomniaCE Straight up I hope this is how Capcom treats Bison. Like yeah I know Bison's a popular character, I don't expect him to be completely gone, if he shows up in every crossover game and every other new SF entry, cool, but let him stay dead and only add him as a legacy character. Move on to new villains. The stuff with G, Gill, Rose, Menat, and the Illuminati and Neo Shadaloo sound interesting, give us a new multi game arc or two about that, let Gill be our new multi game villain for awhile.

    • @ethanhinton4549
      @ethanhinton4549 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @SominaCE Either that or make him puke out the consumed souls after he gets defeated, so you can have your cake and eat it too. Justify it by him not "fully digesting" them or something.

  • @Houldey
    @Houldey ปีที่แล้ว +839

    Necali doesn't even drown in pools, he drowned in the bath the night before. Utterly wasted - genuinely annoyingly so, he's visually interesting and given SFV was basically a game about costumes, they really dropped the ball with him after S1.

    • @danielm5161
      @danielm5161 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Pretty much all of the new sf5 characters were failures though. Most aren't coming back ever again

    • @someaccount5200
      @someaccount5200 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@danielm5161 Kolin was pretty meh tho

    • @dmitrisemenoff6455
      @dmitrisemenoff6455 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@danielm5161 failures I don't know, G and zeku rock imo

    • @apollyon9946
      @apollyon9946 ปีที่แล้ว

      His design is ugly as hell to me. Giant tentacle porn hair that turns into gay Broly or something. No thanks.

    • @jaguar8038
      @jaguar8038 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@dmitrisemenoff6455 None of those are sfV originals

  • @unwise_TW
    @unwise_TW ปีที่แล้ว +229

    I think that Necali’s issue seems to be his concept:
    “legendary timeless warrior who kills warriors and consumes their souls (presumably to become stronger)”
    Interesting on paper HOWEVER, it’s a setup that Capcom seemed to be afraid of Paying off.
    Because that would mean they would NEED to kill off characters in order for this concept to reach its natural end point, but they were afraid of making fans upset by having their new guy kill off characters they loved.
    As such Necali doesn’t reach the fullest of his concepts potential.

    • @calemr
      @calemr ปีที่แล้ว +62

      They could have just Not made him need to kill.
      Just have that he somehow drains defeated foes, leaving them weakened until someone can get their strength back.
      That way you could have him become a bigger and bigger threat as he removes more and more of the roster's ability to fight, but without killing them all off.

    • @Sierlea
      @Sierlea ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Agreed. He's basically a Mortal Kombat character in motive and that doesn't work in SF, where characters beating but not killing each other is the norm (aside from Bison who's gonna come back anyway).

    • @Egalitariat-likesecretariat
      @Egalitariat-likesecretariat ปีที่แล้ว +24

      For Tekken 3, they pretended that the big bad Ogre was actively killing off the renowned masters of martial arts we played as in previous games. From Baek to Jun Kazama to... King, I think? And even absorbing Heihachi at the end of Arcade mode.
      That's a villain with a buildup. And it turns out that most of those characters got retconned into being alive, I know Baek gets a revive... but it built Ogre up as a genuine threat. And Ogre didn't seem like he was rampaging at full force only to get one-shot, the guy was a clever, dangerous warrior.
      Necalli didn't even get to pretend he was a real killer. He basically seems like he just bumrushes everyone in story mode and gets clobbered til he runs.
      It's... not a good look.

    • @Vincentvondoom
      @Vincentvondoom ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It was impossible to take him seriously with his fake looking dreads. They should have put more time and effort into his model.

    • @SolidGoldCEO
      @SolidGoldCEO ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Another thing to note is that reads more like a Mortal Kombat character than a Street Fighter one

  • @ethanstewart5108
    @ethanstewart5108 ปีที่แล้ว +755

    I think that a point that really ended up not being discussed here is that, Necalli isn't just a jobber, he's a jobber with *no personality.* *Most* characters in street fighter (and fighting games in general) have a dismal story presence, but they're at least entertaining personality-wise.
    Dan Hibiki is the most relevant example. He's the ultimate jobber in terms of street fighter, he's a character literally mechanically and narratively designed around being *bad*. His moves suck, his story relevance is minimal, but he's a character that's maintained a solid series presence since the Alpha games because people enjoy his personality.
    Necalli isn't just a jobber. He's a piece of cardboard that utterly fails to deliver on any of his narrative or gameplay fantasies.
    To put it bluntly, Necalli isn't *fun*.

    • @TheManWhoErasedHisNane
      @TheManWhoErasedHisNane ปีที่แล้ว +51

      True people play Dan because he’s fun to play with even if his moves are “bad”.

    • @Rich_P_Anya
      @Rich_P_Anya ปีที่แล้ว +14

      You certainly know a lot about not fun

    • @mitomidou
      @mitomidou ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Dan Hibiki is Gilberg while Necali is Marty Jannetty. One was a joke to begin with while the other was billed to be big but was just discarded with no fanfare.

    • @NeoBoneGirl
      @NeoBoneGirl ปีที่แล้ว +35

      The only other SF characters with no personality who stick around are usually old *cough cough* E HONDA *cough cough*

    • @AirLancer
      @AirLancer ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@NeoBoneGirl Seriously, all Sumo wrestler characters in fighting games (that aren't named Hinako) need to go.

  • @Rockleedrunkpunch
    @Rockleedrunkpunch ปีที่แล้ว +257

    I lowkey feel bad for the devs, artists and advertisers that when through the effort of creating him only for him to get dropped like a potato

    • @Ironclad17
      @Ironclad17 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If they cared why is he so irrelevant in the campaign and plot?

    • @DuBstep115
      @DuBstep115 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Ironclad17 wait street fighter has a plot?

    • @kyotheman69
      @kyotheman69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well they made him potato in story, if they made him actual threat he would of been cool evil/dark character, but nope they made him a chump

  • @CrocvsGator
    @CrocvsGator ปีที่แล้ว +648

    If I had a nickel for everytime a Mesoamerican styled fighting game character was hyped up as a main antagonist, only to become a jobber, I'd have three nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened thrice.
    *those three being Necalli, Kotal Kahn, and Ogre from Tekken.

    • @franciscor390
      @franciscor390 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Yup its wierd how side lined and humiliated these poor kings got, compared a more regular warrior caste meso-american warrior like Tam Tam from Samurai Warriors who was allowed to maintain his dignity by the developers haha.

    • @CrocvsGator
      @CrocvsGator ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@franciscor390 There's also Misangno from Arms, who is treated well enough I guess, but it's hard to say because Arms doesn't have much lore and the tie in comic was cancelled.

    • @kyokugenryudisciple9349
      @kyokugenryudisciple9349 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Oh trust me…if I ever make a story or fighting game…I am gonna make a Mesoamerican Character and do two things….keep them strong.

    • @CrocvsGator
      @CrocvsGator ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@kyokugenryudisciple9349I can somewhat relate. I should mention, I'm of Hungarian descent myself. The two most famous Hungarians in history to the rest of the world are probably Harry Houdini and Elizabeth Bathory. A lot of times characters who are based off of Houdini are portrayed as Italian, Romanian, or vaguely Eastern European. And Elizabeth Bathory is more well known for being a serial killer and a member of the upper class. I wish we'd get representation of other figures from Hungarian mythology/Culture in anything.
      Like a Taltos character. Taltos were essentially the equivalent Druids or Shamans in ancient Hungary. But one could only become a Taltos if they were born with some sort of physical abnormality, such as albinism, a sixth finger, or a caul (a caul is basically an extra layer of skin on the face, almost like a flesh mask. It's usually removed at birth, because it's easily removed)
      Or a person with a Liderc familiar, which in Hunfarian myths were basically imps that followed people and would perform malevolent acts in exchange for a bit of blood.

    • @ajshiro3957
      @ajshiro3957 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      LOL, so true. Ogre was one of my favorite bosses. But he was tossed like kid kazuya down a very long and deep cliff. Never to return unless it's the Tag games. The disrespect.

  • @metalgamer8179
    @metalgamer8179 ปีที่แล้ว +318

    It’s too bad Necalli was a failure because he’s got a sick design. Glad someone got the hair in 6

    • @djpegao
      @djpegao ปีที่แล้ว +14

      And Jamie doesn't suffer from sudden clipping hair attacks

    • @kyotheman69
      @kyotheman69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he was failure because capcom made him to be one, the story is terrible, they made this guy a joke

  • @socialcameleon6956
    @socialcameleon6956 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    As a latecomer to SFV (champion ed.) I didn't even realize Necalli had ever been important until recently with all of the SF6 talk and SF5 launch comparisons haha

  • @nixuniverse5240
    @nixuniverse5240 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    He probably would’ve been more popular if he wasn’t created to be “the next Akuma”.

    • @rna151
      @rna151 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think that's probably a decent-sized chunk of why he didn't work. He's not quite Akuma but he definitely feels Akuma-adjacent in a lot of things. He's got wild red hair, he's got a DP, he's fixated on strong fighters...

    • @kevino13
      @kevino13 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @Cristo Alba he was supposed to be a sort of “primal Akuma,” if I remember correctly. While Akuma had mastered the Satsui no Hado through training, Necalli had a feral inherent control over it. That’s why the ultimate showdown was between him and Ryu, who’s story was focusing on him trying to control the energy inside him.

    • @Shiratto
      @Shiratto ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Cristo Alba in the concept art you could see that Necalli was one of the ideas for a new Akuma design.

    • @Marc-rw3dd
      @Marc-rw3dd ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Shiratto That would've been way cooler than the weird lion's mane thing he had going on tbh

    • @Shiratto
      @Shiratto ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Marc-rw3dd I personally think Necalli should’ve been the Evil Ryu replacement instead of Kage. All that zipping around and chonky hits would’ve fit so well, he even had the stomp!

  • @chubbubdreamer6904
    @chubbubdreamer6904 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Damn, I remember Necali got jobbed out in the story mode, but I forgot Ryu straight up sent him to the Shadow Realm.

  • @squeezlebub3593
    @squeezlebub3593 ปีที่แล้ว +494

    I always loved Necalli’s design and concept, but it’s hard to disagree that his gameplay was severely uninspiring and his story presence was really poor. Sad to think we may never see him return 😔

    • @ChoseDeath
      @ChoseDeath ปีที่แล้ว +10

      No it isn't. The character sucks, there is nothing sad about him going away forever.

    • @deelee6080
      @deelee6080 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah he was pretty bad I’ll rather have eagle other then him.

    • @harrylane4
      @harrylane4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@ChoseDeath meh if they could make Seth cool in 5, they could fix necali

    • @dangerousdays2052
      @dangerousdays2052 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@ChoseDeath

    • @107Pedro
      @107Pedro ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dangerousdays2052 Phenom that stuck with Necalli the most had "nerf necalli because I want to play another character, hes too boring" on his balance wishes for many years, his gameplay is super boring XD

  • @braystar8578
    @braystar8578 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    Necalli is the pinnacle of wasted potential. Part of it is absolutely the story mode and the initial opening, but the other part is just the fact the big bad is Bison again. If Necalli was the big bad of SFV, it would've helped somewhat. I would say give him a second chance, but it's clear Capcom wiped him away to focus on other things in SFV that leads into SF6 (Neo Shadowloo, G, Illuminati, Seth).

  • @iang0th
    @iang0th ปีที่แล้ว +189

    I think it's almost guaranteed that Necalli was originally planned to be a much bigger part of SFV's story until the focus group results came in, and then they wrote him out as well as they could. That would explain his prominent position in the initial marketing and constant yet irrelevant presence in the story mode.

    • @protocetid
      @protocetid ปีที่แล้ว +54

      focus group testing and design by committee are killing gaming

    • @RTU130
      @RTU130 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ye

    • @theobnoxiousguy3425
      @theobnoxiousguy3425 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Suspect that as well The focus group was like we don't like him.

    • @Bingo_the_Pug
      @Bingo_the_Pug ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Luke will be the same, I guarantee it. Capcom says “he will be important to Street Fighter’s future” until he isn’t anymore & a bunch of “SF6 Luke: What Happened??” videos pop up

    • @StriderVM
      @StriderVM ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Even with that. Capcom seriously dropped the ball with his character progression.
      I was thinking in SF5 story mode that Necalli was a representative of people's anger, fear and uncertainty, because it he seems to appear whenever Ryu is doubtful about his path and faith.
      If they really wanted to send him off, have him change once Ryu figures casts out his inner doubts and leave when he realizes that people can change and not just be filled with rage, fear and uncertainty. That's it, doesn't job him out, and have relevance (No matter how thin) in the overall story arc.
      Capcom's story mode in SF5 is just complete BS and seems very very rushed.

  • @THEwridacule
    @THEwridacule ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Loved Necalli..! I mained him for the first few seasons, but in my heart I knew he'd never return. He's in heaven with El Fuerte now..

    • @larquefausse3623
      @larquefausse3623 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      RIP in peace, Senor Fuerte...

    • @LeeONardo
      @LeeONardo ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Add Rufus into there too, he was only shoved into X Tekken because of Bob (and using the same engine) ... ugh.

    • @THEwridacule
      @THEwridacule ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@LeeONardo I'd say Hakkan,also but we all know he's in hell with the rest of the nightmares 🤢

    • @blacklite911
      @blacklite911 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fuerte had massive personality though. He just was a bit too complicated to make perform decently

    • @germanmanuellopezdurazo3579
      @germanmanuellopezdurazo3579 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@THEwridacule You said nightmares and i inmediatly thinked in Necro.

  • @samueledison4676
    @samueledison4676 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Note: Necalli died on the way back to his home planet.

  • @-nomi.-
    @-nomi.- ปีที่แล้ว +36

    It is so weird to see from SFVs earlier roster both Necalli, soulless, and Menat, bursting with personality such that most people want to see her return, and Necalli being the one with all the screentime

    • @clarencegutsy7309
      @clarencegutsy7309 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Menat's personality is doing dumbass cat poses and holding back or forward on the stick. She's just another super cheery girl with insufferable voice that is connected to a cooler character with legacy.

    • @captainmega6310
      @captainmega6310 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah. People like that. You don't have to, but others do obviously do. And a lot of people find Rose boring so...

  • @HenryXLII
    @HenryXLII ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I think one thing that really condemned Necalli was there being no traditional Arcade mode for him to be the boss of. Hell, he didn't even get his own distinct stage!

    • @blacklite911
      @blacklite911 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      wasnt his stage the cliffs? yea pretty boring

    • @Keanotix
      @Keanotix ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He was the boss in the Survival mode ( at least the 10 round one) in the early days before they added an actual arcade mode in. But by that time a few seasons had passed and we got better characters, the story mode and so on. So they then just made it Bison (Dictator) with harder AI at the end of the SFV arcade ladder, with G being a secret mid-boss fight.

  • @mikeoxmaul4685
    @mikeoxmaul4685 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    In Mortal Kombat 11 we had a lot these characters. Geras, the "Immortal Sentinel", ended up being just a jobber who got his a** whooped by everyone in the story mode. Kollector barely appeared in story mode and was just another jobber after all. And what about the new big villain in MK11? The being above the Elder Gods, whose existence frightens even Earthrealm's protector and Outworld's emperor. The "Guardian of The Hourglass". The "Keeper of TIme". Kronika herself. That b*tch could literally *control* time and what she does in story mode? Keeps hiring mercenaries (jobbers) to do her work.

    • @BknMoonStudios
      @BknMoonStudios ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Any "near-omnipotent" bad guy that relies on henchmen to do important tasks is no better than a Saturday Morning Cartoon villain.
      If you are strong and smart, you get your hands dirty to make sure things are done RIGHT!

    • @Ahng_Noying9574
      @Ahng_Noying9574 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      As as rebuttal, I'd like to point out that both Kano and Erron Black were both jobbing henchmen since their respective debut. Despite that, the two have remained popular enough to make reappearances. So there's definitely more to it than just being losers.
      IMO, there's a stark contrast between jobbers that are forgotten/hated (Geras, Kronika, the above-mentioned Necalli, and I'll add FANG to the list) against those that people actually enjoy (Kano, Erron, and I'll add Balrog and Vega). It all can be summed up with one word: personality. The audience, I believe, can forgive a loser if they've got some sort of charm to them: Kano and Erron both have a wry wit, Balrog's a hot-headed crook, and Vega's got an arrogant flair. However, a jobber will never be accepted if they're too boring or annoying to bear: neither Kronika nor Geras have almost no charisma, Necalli's just a generic wildman, and FANG is... the less said, the better.

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ahng_Noying9574 What about FANG ? FANG is the best character !
      .
      .
      .
      Said nobody ever.
      I hate FANG so so much.

  • @MadSnake123
    @MadSnake123 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The fact that Necali didn't even failed due to people not using him, but due to Capcom actually burying him on the story they released a few months after the game release, speaks volumes of how mess up Capcom was at that time.

  • @jdellabeat6245
    @jdellabeat6245 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I love Necali's design. I wish he was more portrayed like a Shao Khan type. I always wanted Necali to be Street Fighter' God of War, but we'll never get that

  • @chasformer3091
    @chasformer3091 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Necalli: I have to go now. My planet needs me.

  • @phdbot4483
    @phdbot4483 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    It's a shame Necalli, got thrown under the bus. I thought he was cool in terms of design and moveset ever since my brother tried him out in SFV.
    Maybe he would've had a better chance if he could at least devour a few souls to show a testament of his power, but obviously they wouldn't want to kill off any of cast, so he got nothing...

    • @mappybc6097
      @mappybc6097 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Whomever framed Ken in 6 royally f'ed up his life and did it from the shadows. Just by doing that to a beloved character that person would be compelling as a villain. Akuma is the same for Ryu. He didn't really kill Gouken, he doesn't really want to kill Ryu either, but his mere existence is a constant reminder to Ryu that he has succumbed to darkness in the past and that he is by no means done with the dark hadou yet.
      Long story short discount pillar man didn't need to kill anyone in the main or even secondary cast to be a good or at least competent villain.

    • @VernulaUtUmbra
      @VernulaUtUmbra ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Didn't Nash basically die after SFV anyway? Could have very easily killed him, or any of the other characters that aren't going to come back due to popularity (FANG and T.Hawk are already being replaced in SFVI, could have killed them)

    • @AirLancer
      @AirLancer ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@VernulaUtUmbra Speaking of Nash, why even bother bringing him back if he's just going to job to Bison again anyway? He and Guile barely even interact in the story.

    • @BknMoonStudios
      @BknMoonStudios ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@AirLancer *THIS!*
      Guile's whole story is about avenging Nash. But the moment he sees him again, he barely reacts.
      Whoever wrote the Story Mode of Street Fighter V likely never played any of the previous games and was only handed a bullet point list of vague plot points. LMAO

    • @alexcampuzano2001
      @alexcampuzano2001 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They could have made Necalli consume the souls of some warriors but later, when Ryu defeats him, the souls he consumed could come back to life.

  • @dragons_hook
    @dragons_hook ปีที่แล้ว +23

    And I thought you were bad... you ain't bad, YOU AINT NOTHIN!!!
    Necalli: * melts *

  • @davidkerr7350
    @davidkerr7350 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Even more humiliating Rashid the first newcomer after Necalli became the real newcomer star in SFV since he most screen time, actually at one point became the most popular of SFV newcomers, Capcom acknowledging him as main hero of 5 and Spoilers be one of first DLC characters of 6.

  • @chaplainnormie
    @chaplainnormie ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Y’know, I feel like video games has the similar problem that most bad comics/animations could have; no matter how good the art/animation is it can’t save bad writing. In this case, good design/play mechanics can’t save a bad concept.

  • @SaviorGabriel
    @SaviorGabriel ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Necalli: "Grrr, devour-our-our..."
    Yeah, I can't imagine why this character didn't work out.

    • @Lukmendes
      @Lukmendes ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The "Devour hour" meme he had was funny though lol.

    • @BknMoonStudios
      @BknMoonStudios ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Lukmendes That's kind of the problem.
      He's _supposed_ to be intimidating, not funny.
      He's _supposed_ to have more in common with Akuma, Bison and Gill than with Dan and Blanka.
      His failure to live up to his potential is a big problem.

  • @theraVen27
    @theraVen27 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Creating a really cool character, promoting everything around them, then having them totally job out to everyone in game is the most capcom thing I’ve ever heard

  • @zaden9009
    @zaden9009 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It’s like they wanted to make a character with a design meant to show off the engine graphics.
    But then the devs couldn’t figure out what to do with him after that xD

  • @MajoraZ
    @MajoraZ ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Necalli on paper is my ideal SF character, so him being poorly handled narratively is a shame: Mesoamerican (Aztec, Maya, etc) history/archeology, insane berserker characters, and neon green stuff are some of my favorite hobbies/visual design tropes, so his alternate costume/form based on Mesoamerican stone mosiac art hits all the checkboxes: He's perfect for me... Sadly, that's not his default outfit (it really should have been), he was totally fumbled narratively, and honestly I didn't even get the chance to get into SFV due to life stuff (nor MKX/11 with Kotal, who does Mesoamerica even better). I'm super hyped for SF6 and it bums me out knowing he's got like a 0% chance to be playable there. That said, I'll dissect his cultural influences here a bit, even if there's not a ton really analyze, since I never pass up a chance to talk about Mesoamerican stuff:
    Firstly, to be clear, I don't think Necalli is a particularly authentic or accurate depiction of any sort of actual Mesoamerican mythological figure or soldier: the Street Fighter wiki tries to claim he's based on Huitzilopochtli (the patron diety of the Mexica of the Aztec captial, a war god that also has some solar associations) or to the Tzitzimime (a class of female spirits or goddesses which were monstrous figures associated with stars which would consume the sun and the world if the New Fire Ceremony wasn't preformed every 52 years; though they were also protectors of women in childbirth), but I don't think he shares any particular traits with either: A lot of the comparisons it draws are tenuous, or are based on outright false information: Serpents were a common motif in Mesoamerican art, nothing about the serpent on his loincloth specifically implies Xiuhcoatl, the serpent wielded by Huitzlipotchli as a weapon, contrary to what the page says; and likewise offering of hearts wasn't specific to sacrifices to Huitzliopotchli, so I don't think his win pose implies that either. The color yellow was also NOT reserved for soldiers in the Shorn One order, nor was the step fret design (which his loincloth/sandals don't even get right, Necalli's are more of a greek fret/meander pattern).
    Rather, I think Necalli is primarily... a Jojo reference. He's almost certainly based on the Pillar Men, a bunch of ancient super-beings dormant in stone, the first one which was found in Mesoamerican ruins and they created the Stone masks that in Jojo were then used by the Aztec in rituals. They even absorb people and shapeshift like Necalli does. This would obviously be far from the first time Street Fighter pulled from Jojo: Rose, Guile, Juri famously have as well. I think he's also pulling from random sterotypes of the Mesoamericans being savage and primitive and feral (and general well known things like snakes, fret patterns, sacrifice, sun stuff, etc, without a deeper knowledge of how that symbolism is used), which I might argue is a problem (these were sophisticated urban civilizations, with books, poetry, philosophy, giant cities, fine art etc), but Street Fighter is famous for it's national sterotypes and in service of the Pillar Man influence and Necalli's in universe Origin i'm not too mad about it.
    That framing though does make me like his normal form way less then the green stone one: The normal one is just a generic stereotypical barbarian man I sort of hate it, but the other costume is actually a pretty cool adaptation of Mesoamerican stone mosaic art: These were made from precious stones like Jade, Spondylus shell, pearl, obsidian, and turquoise, which were affixed to a wood base, being either masks, handles or other surfaces on ceremonial weapons or helmets, or ceremonial discs/plates. In particular, Necalli's stone form's skin reminds me of some Maya mosiacs using rough, unpolished jade, such as the death mask of the Maya Queen Tz’akbu Ajaw, also known as the Red Queen; while black pectoral garment and ankle/braclets with gold and turquoise plaques is very evocative of Aztec turquoise and obsidian and gold jewlery and mosaics, such as the the "Mask of Tezcatlipoca" housed in the British museum. I also agree with the wiki that his long flowing hair is probably based on Mesoamerican feather headdresses and tassels, which were often made using green quetzal feathers, like his green hair in this form. (I will say that pectoral garments and headdresses aren't AS universal a thing in Mesoamerican clothing as media makes it out to be, but they WERE real things, so I'll give it a pass here like I do with Kotal since they're otherwise well done).
    If i'm just judging Necalli by his stone form, he's probably the second best done Mesoamerican fighting game character after Kotal, or maybe he's tied with ogre in second... but honestly, that's moreso because the bar is low then Necalli being super well done, visuals of the stone form aside. Kotal has a LOT more going for him, but even he I think is also prone to generic media sterotypes in a lot of ways... but as with SF, MK is also all about over the top sterotypes, so I give Kotal slack, and again, there IS a lot I like with Kotal.
    If you ever do a big breakdown on Kotal as a character like in this video or your "The Ridiculous characters of Fighting Game history " videos, I'd be down to help give some insight into his influences too, if you wanted to have me help out!

    • @YouGuessIGuess
      @YouGuessIGuess ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love detailed and researched comments like these. People like you make the internet a better place. Thank you for sharing your passion for the subject with us.
      I fully agree--Necalli's stone man form is a 10/10 design for me visually, and is the only costume I pick when I was still trying to make myself main him. If he ever comes back I hope that they go with that.

    • @EternalEdgeLord
      @EternalEdgeLord ปีที่แล้ว

      Aren't most fighting games based off over-the-top stereotypes?

    • @MajoraZ
      @MajoraZ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@EternalEdgeLord I don't know about "most", but Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat are, which is why I'm more willing to give those aspects of Necalli and Kotal a pass. I also wanna be clear here that by "sterotype", I don't nessacarily mean "offensive", so much as that it's typical of how media and pop culture and people tends to depict and understand things. I don't think doing that is inherently a problem, but with Mesoamerican stuff I am wary about it because unlike, say, with over the top sterotypes of modern countries or cultures and such, most people legitmately cannot tell what's accurate or inaccurate or what's represenative when it comes to Mesoamerican stuff, so I think there's a very real risk of sterotypical depictions actually contuining to validate common misconceptions.... again, though, doing that is so core to SF and MK's DNA I'm not gonna give them too much flak for it.

    • @wdcain1
      @wdcain1 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Necalli works better as a Darkstalkera character, especially in his green stone alt.

    • @ElTacoNazo92
      @ElTacoNazo92 ปีที่แล้ว

      I definitely prefer Necalli over T Hawk for the same reasons you laid out here. I always thought he was cool.

  • @ndescruzur4378
    @ndescruzur4378 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The thing is Necalli is as deep as a character as a dinning plate. The only thing he ever does as a character is: Appear out of nowhere, get angry, fight someone, lose, go away. Repeat.
    Everyime. The. Same. Shit.
    He has no connections with any other character and all his interactions are the same. "Hey who are you?" "GHHAA FIGHTERZ POWERZZZ" and then he just becomes diarrhea and disappears.

  • @insertchannelnamehere7154
    @insertchannelnamehere7154 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I will never forget booting up street fighter 5 for the first time after all the dlc had been released. Necali was the only character that I had never seen anywhere before. If I never played the game I would not have even known he existed.

  • @game84cube
    @game84cube ปีที่แล้ว +19

    An awesome, powerful, Aztec brawler with major rage issues that gets jobbed in every moment he's in the story past his debut?
    It's like he went out the way of Modern Knuckles the Echidna

  • @rooflemonger
    @rooflemonger  ปีที่แล้ว +25

    In a very small update thats not worth its own video: Looks like a new playable SF6 build will be debuting next month at the SF 35th anniversary event in Osaka! No real details past that, but its newer than the TGS/Beta build, so probably includes dhalsim/blanka/honda, and maybe more?

    • @Hobbitfeetpics
      @Hobbitfeetpics ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@666slateran666 Stop being bitter, the beta has been over for weeks at this point. Plenty of people that aren't E-celebs got codes; it was a *closed* beta - not everyone gets in. Were some people handpicked by Capcom? Obviously - but the fact is that over 20k people were *ranked* in the beta, so rest assured that you and the overwhelming majority of those players had the exact same chance of being selected. And whether someone has played Street Fighter before has no bearing on them being randomly selected to participate in what is essentially a promotional event.
      In all likelihood the game will be out in a few months, and as such, I highly doubt they will do another beta (especially considering this one went so well). You can play it then like the rest of us.

    • @Hobbitfeetpics
      @Hobbitfeetpics ปีที่แล้ว

      @@666slateran666 Spoken like an entitled, bitter child. Whether or not someone has ever played Street Fighter is irrelevant - you don't have to present your physical copy of ST to buy the fucking game. Capcom doesn't give a shit if you've played Street Fighter for 20 years, or if you've logged ten minutes in training mode. Tens of thousands of people got in, but you're complaining because Capcom handpicked a few content creators for publicity? It's a product, half the point of ANY game having a closed beta test is publicity.
      What would you like them to do - comb through millions of applications and hand select people based on how many hours they've spent in SFV? You are not the only demographic the game is being sold to, and feedback about online is *not* the only reason they do a beta test. You don't think they account for people only playing an hour when they decided how many codes to send out? There were likely hundreds of codes that weren't even redeemed because people didn't check their spam folders.
      And are you not aware of what the phrase "in all likelihood" means? I never said it was confirmed, but considering the state that the game is in, the amount of time since it was announced, Capcom's explicitly stated intentions to release "several major titles by March 31, 2023", and the consistency with which Street Fighter titles have historically been launched in Q1 (if not specifically in February), all signs are pointing to the game being out in that time frame.

    • @cthulhu888
      @cthulhu888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yay! I've been looking for news on when the next reveal might be, sucks we gotta wait another month but hopefully we get as much stuff as we did at tgs! 😄🙌🔥

    • @martingutierrez694
      @martingutierrez694 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Hobbitfeetpics I’m pissed at all the codes that got stolen by bots and sold off

  • @FURIASN
    @FURIASN ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I love Necalli no matter what. I'm sad that he will never return.

  • @billvolk4236
    @billvolk4236 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Gill had more going on in the SFV story than Necalli did because Kolin was working for him the whole time, and the whole plot to reanimate Charlie and throw him at Shadaloo was his idea.

    • @Knifegash
      @Knifegash ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I like that too. Gill is here to create the balance, not upset it. He could easily have roflstomped Bison on his own, but Bison and Nash needed to settle their conflict and Ryu needed to dispel chaos with nothingness, all according to balance.

    • @lancekemal8989
      @lancekemal8989 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's an understatement. Gil is one of the coolest Street fighter bosses of all time.

    • @Knifegash
      @Knifegash ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lancekemal8989 He's one of the coolest video game characters! He transcends the typical constraints of the games he's in and challenges the norm, as befitting a messianic figure! He showed off the fancy sprite system in SF3 with his dual colors, and in SFV he gives his back to the players, in a 2D-plane fighting game!! Breaks a design philosophy! Unheard of!

    • @lancekemal8989
      @lancekemal8989 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Knifegash Glad I'm not the only one who thinks Gill is an underrated Street fighter boss compared to Bison, Seth and Akuma who are more popular.

  • @JAMman
    @JAMman ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I bought sfv after seeing Necalli. I loved his look

  • @mr.checkyourself4672
    @mr.checkyourself4672 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Necalli is such a failure he had probably the best character design of the franchise and he's a joke he didn't even absorb nobody in A Shadow Falls and Akuma killed him in his story and we might not ever see him again I think Kage was created to be better than Necalli but he's a failure to.

    • @franciscor390
      @franciscor390 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Poor guy he just wanted to absorb people lol.

    • @BknMoonStudios
      @BknMoonStudios ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh god, I forgot about Kage too!
      That's TWO Akuma knockoffs that fell flat IN THE SAME GAME!!!🤣

    • @Marc-rw3dd
      @Marc-rw3dd ปีที่แล้ว +2

      at least kage was cool when he was evil ryu

  • @patte5306
    @patte5306 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Perfect video, he truly looks amazing and plays fine, even though the way his moves look don't feel as cool, but the way he was shown in lore truly undermines the character, an interesting concept can't save lack of personality, i hope he returns someday reinvented, since Rashid wasn't as cool looking as Necalli, but his personality and the look of his gameplay carried him to fan favourite

  • @LeebeeLink
    @LeebeeLink ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Hakan was SF4's best original character imo. honestly the only one that ever made me like the goofy googly eye tone, I hope he comes back someday

    • @cthulhu888
      @cthulhu888 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same! I always liked his visual style the most, even if his oil gimmick was a bit cringe lol. Had he not been released along side friggin juri of all characters he likey wouldn't have been forgotten so quickly.
      At least we remember hakan better than we remember necalli though haha xD

    • @ArkThePieKing
      @ArkThePieKing ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hakan was great, he was the better of the two gimmick wrestler characters in that game. I could not STAND El Fuerte. Everything from his personality to his fighting style to his voice grated on me, which was heartbreaking because I actually love luchadors. The archetype deserved better than a coke snorting chef running back and forth like a moron.

    • @Keanotix
      @Keanotix ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Blame Diago for his non-return, cause apparently Capcom like listening to him regarding SF characters.
      He has been quoted as saying that Hakan was his least favourite character in SF4.

    • @Adeyum64
      @Adeyum64 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seeing him and Dudley in 6 would be so wild

  • @AceHatake
    @AceHatake ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I agree with this, I think fighting games forget how important the personality and depth parts of a characters character is. We love Akuma because he’s an absolute demon badass and we love Kazuya because he’s a charismatic fighting badass businessman. Sometimes the characters that you play themselves gives you confidence in real life lmao. Looks are very important but Necalli proved that alone they’re not enough.

  • @thekenyonsquad5672
    @thekenyonsquad5672 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Necalli is basically the same as Akuma; if Akuma had no thematic relevance and never won a fight. A character with the personality of an unstoppable force of nature must have the power to make up for it.

  • @prodigiousprodigy6781
    @prodigiousprodigy6781 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't expect I'd agree so much on a video after randomly showing up in feed. Def earned a subscribe

  • @MagcargoMan
    @MagcargoMan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember thinking about this character a while ago and remembered how heavily they were pushed only to be forgotten so fast. Don't even play Street Fighter but saw this in my feed so decided to give it a watch. Interesting to see someone talk about it

  • @charlesmanning7715
    @charlesmanning7715 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I'm personally very upset how Necalli was done dirty, I enjoy playing with him. I hope they at least put in a costume or cosmetic stuff referring to him in SF6. Hope they don't do the same to the others

    • @germanmanuellopezdurazo3579
      @germanmanuellopezdurazo3579 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its weird, i really think it wasnt so Hard, i mean, look at yuri, she became the brighter rising Star from sf4 with Just 3 things, Good design, intimidatong presence and a personality.
      I really think it shouldt be so Hard to replicate this with necali. Seems like capcom just choosing not to give him thet push.

    • @guyfauks2576
      @guyfauks2576 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@germanmanuellopezdurazo3579 stop lying yall only like her feet

  • @Alex_Valentine
    @Alex_Valentine ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Let's face it, not every fighter is blessed enough to be as popular as Dan Hibiki.

  • @GrootGuitar
    @GrootGuitar ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ive had similar sentiments and its great to hear a deep dive from you! 🤘 🦖

  • @latch_official
    @latch_official ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it’s a theory, but i think they chickened out on necali having a presence in the story since his whole thing is absorbing souls, and if that killed off characters, they clearly want to avoid that to keep characters for future games

  • @PrincipalSkinner3190
    @PrincipalSkinner3190 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Never played SF5 but my fav design was always Necalli. He was the main reason I wanted to play. Shame to hear they botched such a cool design.

  • @Mechadyne_0
    @Mechadyne_0 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honestly, the story setup was so easy. Have him fight some staples and win, devour their souls and become more powerful as the story went on.
    At the end, he devours FANG and Bison, gaining some crazy souped up Psycho Power form. Give him the purple “psycho” aura, make his scars / eyes glow white, and his hair is constantly crazy.
    Have Ryu and Ken lose, Ken is devoured and in order to not fall victim to Necalli, Ryu voids his soul of the Satsui No Hado and manages to handedly beat Psycho Necalli, liberating the souls of the beaten warriors and allowing them to come back to life. Voila, we got Purified Ryu and everyone’s back to normal. Hell, have Necalli go back to his weird stone statue form to keep him alive. He’s “sealed” or whatever.
    Bonus End Credits scene: the freed Psycho Power and Ryu’s Satsui No Hado fuse to create Kage. Preferably without his stupid fuckin oni horns and fangs.

  • @nubocerbo
    @nubocerbo ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I can't wrap my head around intentionally putting so much effort in designing a jobber, much less have them as the center of promotions

  • @_hunu
    @_hunu ปีที่แล้ว +2

    lol, first time watcher and you're like the "Chef John" voice of gaming content xD The influence on your delivery is undeniable, and not a bad thing at all.

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I get compared to chef john a lot lol

  • @phantomspaceman
    @phantomspaceman ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Devour Hour. They gave their big marquee monster warrior a damned stutter. Everyone was really sick of mirror matches early in the game's life too.

    • @BknMoonStudios
      @BknMoonStudios ปีที่แล้ว

      I despise Necalli's voice and lines.
      He sounds so goofy and stupid, it's almost endearing... which is not something you want for an ancient soul-eating demon...

  • @Narrator1
    @Narrator1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To further put how much of a failure Necalli was into context, his personal Story Mode hyped him up to be the one who would devour Psycho Power, Agni's power, and the Satsui no Hadou, as evidenced by him defeating Bison, Dhalsim, and Ryu. In fact, it was theorized that his consuming their powers would have explained Bison's absence (inability to resurrect after having his soul eaten) in SFIII, Ryu having no Satsui-related powers in SFIII, and Dhalsim's absence as well.
    Then we get to the cinematic story mode and later characters' personal story ladders and find that he failed to fulfill his own prophecy on all three counts (twice in the case of Satsui no Hadou if you count Akuma as another shot at it). Oh, and even Balrog was able to drive him back.

  • @bulb9970
    @bulb9970 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just realized he’s the Raditz of Street Fighter
    - Shows up early and gets presented as a big deal
    - Is actually weak af
    - No memorable personality
    - People only remember him because of the cool hair

  • @prof.laytonfan764
    @prof.laytonfan764 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would’ve been cooler if he was the main villain of sfv. He had everything going for him, but Capcom absolutely ruined him with the story mode. Then again everyone was ruined in story mode so I can’t blame him for that.

  • @Prodighee
    @Prodighee ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Fans: Didn't like Abel, Fang, T.Hawk
    SF6: Makes em female.
    Fans: Didn't like Necalli
    SF6: 😈

    • @toberone5158
      @toberone5158 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Nah, they just turned him into a very pretty alcoholic.

    • @kyokugenryudisciple9349
      @kyokugenryudisciple9349 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If I ever make a fighting game or story…at some point in an arch…I’ll do the same thing.
      I’ll make Necalli again…Rule63 him…and keep her strong in the series.

    • @ivaerz4977
      @ivaerz4977 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      They also made Seth female in SFV

    • @Prodighee
      @Prodighee ปีที่แล้ว

      @@toberone5158 I now have an innate urge to draw "Nejamie"

    • @RamixTheRed
      @RamixTheRed ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hang on hang on hang on
      You might be on to something here

  • @kidokoala
    @kidokoala ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The problem with Necali's character is I believe that maybe originally Akuma and Blanka weren't going part of the roster in the initial stages of the game's development. However, as fan reception of the character deteriorated over time, the developers then realized that the latter two characters should have been added in the first place, hence this situation we have, here.

  • @CastleKingside
    @CastleKingside ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome video, Roof!!!
    I really enjoyed that breakdown because I never wanted to play the story mode for SFV.
    When Necalli was first revealed, I had high hopes that he was a Polynesian warrior like a Maori or something like that.
    But I was dissapointed when I learned he wasn't.
    I didn't like the fact that Necalli doesn't really have dialog with anyone.
    That's a big deal when it comes to learning about a character.
    Most of the time.
    Anyways...
    I really enjoyed this breakdown, Roof.
    Keep these types of episodes coming, uce.
    I love learning about the lore of these fighting game characters.
    Until we get that new VF, homie.
    Lol.
    Peace.

  • @joebarhouch2742
    @joebarhouch2742 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don't even have sfv, but i was planning to get it and i had chosen to play necalli.
    Everything in his moveset and his aesthetic just clicked with me ... shame he's not coming to sf6 :(

  • @bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819
    @bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You pretty much cemented me as wanting to play as Necalli with this video, to be honest.

  • @HolyHadou
    @HolyHadou ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm still worried about Ed, Falke and Sagat. Ed's coming back but I'm hoping Falke can return with some sauce and I kinda want to see where Sagat is after so long.

    • @bhlakbatosai
      @bhlakbatosai ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Falke was very boring. It looks to be new Russian character JP who uses Psycho Power with a cane will be her spiritual successor similar to A.k.i. for F.a.n.g., Manon for Able, Kimberly for Guy/Zeku

    • @philliplamb2761
      @philliplamb2761 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No one likes falke

    • @cpnCarnage666
      @cpnCarnage666 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      no more blond characters for the love of god

    • @HolyHadou
      @HolyHadou ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Vanilla Gorilla Okay. Sorry we don't agree. Luckily I'm not in charge of the roster so you should be safe. I just thought it'd be nice if they had a second chance to make a good impression. Necali probably won't.

  • @_Jay_Maker_
    @_Jay_Maker_ ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Even if Necalli is dead, his hair lives on.

  • @goodbadideas6071
    @goodbadideas6071 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Necalli was always going to be cut off at the knees by his personality, and the rest got chopped off by his kit. When a character is limited in what they say in and out of a match ("Devour-our-our...") they need to make up for that in something to distinguish them in particular. A good example of this, in the same series, is Blanka, who's mostly making yelps and roars mid match. He jumps around and moves quickly and has a kit that's tricky and distinctive and even a little janky, all of which contribute to his personality. As a result, people actually play and like Blanka.
    Conversely, Necalli doesn't say much and his kit is boring. Or rather, his kit lacks impact. He's always been a "Jack of all trades, Master of none" type character, which has been good for his tier placement but bad for his appeal within the series. He has average speed, he's not a speedy trickster nor a plodding powerhouse. His best moves have usually been his most boring looking normals. All of his attacks do "Good but not overwhelming" damage, which is balanced, but again, lacks impact. Stomp looks like it should do more, but it's usually just a link to super or a scrub's frametrap. His command grab looks like it should do more, but was always too slow to be reliable, didn't really do enough damage or stun to be worth going for, and EX was always limited by the SFV system, which didn't give much off wall bounce until late in its lifespan. Worst of all, V-Trigger has never been the game changer it looks like; it's always just been good not great. Not every character got a great V-trigger, but they couldn't even come up with something that even looked different for his VT2.
    If he had more defined strengths and weaknesses, he'd probably be a more memorable and fun character, but as is he's a straightforward character with a straightforward kit, which really doesn't gel with his status as "The Big Villain of the game". I still like playing him, but I have no illusions of him ever coming back. At least his Halloween costume is dope, that's probably my favorite in the game.

    • @BknMoonStudios
      @BknMoonStudios ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think they should've made him a very strong hybrid grappler/zoner that is very weak at mid-range.
      His stomp is one of his most distinctive features, so I'd say Capcom should've buffed it.
      Strong grapplers tend to be quite scary up close, which would play into his intimidating appearance.
      He could be balanced by giving him stubby, slow and weak normals to make up for very powerful specials.

    • @goodbadideas6071
      @goodbadideas6071 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BknMoonStudios Yeah, I think in an ideal situation stomp and his command grab would have been the core of his kit. Stomp to keep pressure and force block, then grapple when you catch the opponent blocking. But neither move was ever strong enough to make that a particularly good approach.
      Additionally, it's still a bit weird they gave claw based attacks to a character who didn't have claws. I almost wonder if he would have worked better if they didn't give him a DP and just buffed everything else to compensate.

  • @IncognitaEX
    @IncognitaEX ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's pretty clear they had big plans for Necali. I don't know what happened and why the character suffered from that sabotage. He had a very specific power: he could devour souls, aka the only way to defeat M.Bison for good. I remember early screenshots featuring Super Necali as the final boss in Arcade Mode. I wonder why they changed that. Now Necali is just another tragedy in fighting game history. It's sad, I liked him when he debuted in his first teaser.

  • @paxcaster
    @paxcaster ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was so ready to hear that the reason is he has no personality and the line "devour-our-our" is the dumbest shit I've heard a fighting game character say, but I had no idea he was jobbing in the story mode lmao, great video as always

  • @LiquidChamploo
    @LiquidChamploo ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “HE IS THE V IN STREET FIGHTER 5” 😂😂😂😂😂😭

  • @coryharris1939
    @coryharris1939 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Poochie reference, your killing me 😂😂😂. I actually enjoyed Necalli gameplay wise but he was a total jobber. Great video!

  • @Riot55
    @Riot55 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's crazy, he's the only character I ever played in SF5 and who I really clicked with gameplay-wise... I like "boring" straightforward characters with pretty strong fundamentals and not a whole lot of complicated combos to worry about. And I liked his v-trigger aesthetic look. I might be the only one that wishes he'd be coming back... need to find his analogue in SF6 so I can find a similar playing character but not sure who to migrate to.

  • @CrowFGC
    @CrowFGC ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Necalli has no identity. Noone remembers him but vanilla SFV players. He has no story. The only iconic thing about him is his V-Trigger and even that has been overshadowed due to his low pick-rate. If he had story significance, I think he’d be doing okay.

  • @franciscor390
    @franciscor390 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Lol poochi the dog oouch! Harsh blow to Necalli haha.
    Still with a small redesign and better moves i do think Necalli could become a genuinely interesting character.

    • @cthulhu888
      @cthulhu888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They should make a poochi-chan costume for necalli haha! 🤣🤣

  • @dr.platinum2336
    @dr.platinum2336 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Necalli and Kotal Kahn got the same treatment lol sad times because in Sf5 i really though he was cool but was just a complete pushover

  • @tohtoriTurvotus
    @tohtoriTurvotus ปีที่แล้ว

    It's so sad. Necalli was my favorite character in SFV, maybe in SF history even, and I really hope seeing him again because his fighting style and gameplay really fits me.

  • @5brags455
    @5brags455 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    even worse is, Akuma coming in and ending him once Necalli tried devouring him
    just ripped out of his body like nothing.
    so much for a ancient warrior devouring being

    • @wisemage0
      @wisemage0 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm still trying to figure out how Necalli managed to swallow Akuma in spite of being knocked out...

  • @LazurBeemz
    @LazurBeemz ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can we talk about how he showed up as a sheep in Nash's dream in the start of story mode? Like what was up with that?

    • @BknMoonStudios
      @BknMoonStudios ปีที่แล้ว

      This is my tinfoil hat theory, but it might have been a shoutout to the Antichrist movie.
      If not, maybe it has to do with him being "primal" or something like that?
      In any case, it was dumb as hell and made me go "Wut?" 🤣

  • @matthewirizarry8467
    @matthewirizarry8467 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hated Necali's voice lines and lack of personality. I thought he was visually cool.
    "A character is a lot more than a look, a moveset, and a function"
    Perfectly describes why i dont like DNF Duel.

  • @hopefulhyena3400
    @hopefulhyena3400 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I tried to be a Necalli main, but then I got too busy with work and college and I really didn’t play SFV as much as I thought I would. I had fun playing him, but I never got very good.
    I really do like the idea of playing as this wild animal of a man. Less a warrior and more a creature.

  • @SomniaCE
    @SomniaCE 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He is cool as hell in both his playstyle and his visual design. Really wish he caught on with others cause I'd love to see him back.

  • @raymondbd21
    @raymondbd21 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He will rot in gamer hell with El Fuerte.

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  ปีที่แล้ว

      i'd give this comment 2 hearts if I could

  • @cthulhu888
    @cthulhu888 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel like after adding ogre in sfxt capcom was like "oh snap we gotta make our own cool aztec character!" But they ran out of ideas when sfv was about to come out. At least they kinda sorta redeemed themselves with kage in making you forget about him even more lol 🤣
    Visually though his first form always looked like he was wearing giant computer cable sleeves to me, his second form actually looked really neat compared to most of the cast, but once gill and his crazy hair came around necalli was no longer the coolest kid on the street.
    In the end he'll always be remembered as the guy who got a giant V tattooed on him and instantly regretted it 😅

  • @josephrudakov2510
    @josephrudakov2510 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The video was so far so good and then you dropped “..in wrestling - the king of sports..”
    So I instantly subscribed. Inoki was right, my guy

  • @CodyLeeFree
    @CodyLeeFree ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I agreed with everything you said, but the way you pronounced M.Bison’s name threw me off a bit. Lol.😂

  • @just_2swift
    @just_2swift ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wonder if there was a different story planned for him but it got scrapped. In the og trailer you see ryu eyes glow red maybe he was ment to be a demon too ?

    • @notimeforcreativenamesjust3034
      @notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Theres a rumor that his role was reduced after the very poor reception from his reveal

    • @RamixTheRed
      @RamixTheRed ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 Wasnt he super popular on reveal though? And everything went downhill afterwards?

    • @just_2swift
      @just_2swift ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RamixTheRed yeah I remember everyone was hype for him.

  • @lurkzie
    @lurkzie ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The problem with Necali is he lacks any sense of identity

  • @UnlimitedRaikoh
    @UnlimitedRaikoh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The real problem is that they gassed him as a boss character but didn't give him any power or story to match - even if he has the unique transformation, it's lackluster compared to other SF bosses like Bison, Shin Akuma and Gill.
    They should have given him more unique and diverse moveset like the grab absorbs health or meter or v-gauge or something lol

  • @NurseValentineSG
    @NurseValentineSG ปีที่แล้ว

    I was so hyped and interested when they first showed necalli, I really liked his design and how they talked about how he isn't using the satsui no hado, but something weirdly similiar yet different.
    And that all amounted to a guy doing nothing with no personality.

  • @marcorodrigues948
    @marcorodrigues948 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You know what's the biggest irony of all that? The character that was supposed to be a great villain (or at least a "chaotic neutral" character, like Akuma) in the series, ended up being done poorly, while the character that was the villain (an annoying, loud, and weirdo like F.A.N.G) ended up getting more attention (and even a successor, since A.K.I seems to be related to him, in SF6).

    • @realQuestion
      @realQuestion ปีที่แล้ว +2

      F.A.N.G was consistently less-played than Necalli.

  • @ultraspinalki11
    @ultraspinalki11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fan theories regarding who he was or what his role was prior to SF5's release were BETTER than what he turned out to be.
    I remember reading a theory that he was the original user of the Dark Hadou from ancient times, back from the dead to test or overwhelm Ryu in the story. And eventually, Ryu defeating Necalli would allow the former to find balance within himself.

  • @jayosonic
    @jayosonic ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly I really liked Necalli’s gameplay but I can definitely agree with you on how he was portrayed in the story, honestly I hope we get either him with a whole new personality maybe similar to how Broly acts in dbs,or we get someone new with a similar play style in sf6

  • @Dynamode8
    @Dynamode8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That thumbnail sums him up perfectly lol.

  • @bena5150
    @bena5150 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Phenom, Machabo and Sherry wants to know your location 😆 joking aside, ya Necalli was a missed opportunity.

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      phenom gets his due in this video 🤓

  • @Neoxon619
    @Neoxon619 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wouldn’t Luke be closer to being a Poochie? It’s not an exact comparison, but more in the sense that they’re trying to push a cool new character on the community when they aren’t really loving him as much as Capcom wishes we did.

    • @franciscor390
      @franciscor390 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes there is merit to this. I'd say both of them actually are, look at their respective tattoo design, Luke also shares the large V design.
      So poochie indeed.

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  ปีที่แล้ว

      Luke has fans though is the key difference. He actually is appealing to people who are not already in the SF ecosystem, and therefore doing his job as a new character.

  • @ryanseidel1780
    @ryanseidel1780 ปีที่แล้ว

    Necalli fan here, been one since day one of the game. Going to enjoy him while I can because I doubt I'll ever get to play him again. It was a good ride.

  • @Yukari_MAiG
    @Yukari_MAiG ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Contrast to Juri. She wasn’t even the main bad guy in 4 but she kicked Chun-Li’s and Cammy’s butt quite handily.

  • @Feesh322
    @Feesh322 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Necalli is like the DBZ Broly of the Street Fighter franchise. The only way he'll come back and be 'legit' is with a major revamp. Who knows, maybe we'll see 'DBS' Necalli in SF7 one day.

  • @donbasuradenuevo
    @donbasuradenuevo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I LOL'd when "even lost to Balrog"

  • @dantesparda4493
    @dantesparda4493 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro you nailed the money, this is exactly what I told my friends about Necalli one week in playing SFV when we were discussing geek stuff etc.
    Thanks for this video, sad how Necalli was treated. I really don't think he'll ever come back because when you get killed by Akuma..... you're for real dead.

  • @TheBanimal
    @TheBanimal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played Necalli through season 1 and Season 2, I loved his design, I loved his costumes, I loved his gameplay. I wish his story was more substantial, it feels like he was designed to be never appear again

  • @Ottrond
    @Ottrond ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good video my man

  • @kylehunter2674
    @kylehunter2674 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love these videos!!!
    Dio combo video for JoJo all star battle R? 🙏🏽 lol

    • @rooflemonger
      @rooflemonger  ปีที่แล้ว

      don't know anything about jojos, and I hear the game has bad online so thats basically that for me

    • @kylehunter2674
      @kylehunter2674 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rooflemonger a part of me knew lol. Especially with that netcode but I had to try lol