Do you know how WEIRD and POWERFUL the AV-7 Cannon was? (COMPLETE BREAKDOWN)
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The AV-7 cannon was the main artillery of the Grand Army of the Republic, see how it compared to other Republic vehicles and CIS and Imperial rivals.
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In the Lego game about the Clone Wars, the AV7 had a defense gun.
Thats true. I loved playing that game but always loved to play the sepratists. I like their vehicles more.
@@Generalphoenix8438Seppies got no laser beam tank
Edit: Sorry I forgot IG Homing Droid in-game my bad guys
It could also walk in a circle
The fact that we never got a RTS game with that kind of game play is honestly a crime.
@@Generalphoenix8438I remeber playing it with a friend and loved the gun
I love this weapon, it's only porpouse is to bring heavy firepower and it does it amazingly, I'm sad we don't see more of it
yeah crazy that it is in only 2 CW episodes
@@MetaNerdzLoregeneosis and Christophis?
I don't know why, but I could see some clever rebels picking up some of these to mount onto a few freighters for massive hit-and-run attacks. Just convert the cargo hold to hold the tibanna gas and power generators for the thing
That would be cool, this is why star wars role play games can be so good and idk why video games haven't been able to keep up with the sandbox
There's a neat concept for an Age of Rebellion RPG session.
@@MetaNerdzLore probably because the rights to publishing said games are held by a publisher who is the most notorious in the industry for prioritizing whatever the corporate office's idea of profitability is over what game developers think would be interesting.
I love how the Clone Wars showed us an array of various military vehicles used in specialized roles. It really helps to flesh out the worldbuilding.
I wouldn’t be surprised if some rebel groups are capable of finding and using some of these, it’d be pretty cool to see those in action at a rebel fortification.
one change I have for this weapon is a rotery to allow it to look more amazing and also have the cannons cool down for each cannon
i like it
@@MetaNerdzLore thank you
@@MetaNerdzLore another thing I would add is a option to use the legs or the hover feature, to get the best of both movement and travel in the many battlefields
In the near future could you do a breakdown of the TIE Defender(and elite) using the latest canon information?
yeah that is one the list
Can we talk about how a Venator mounting an AV-7 is basically the equivalent of a real world Amphibious Assault Ship wheeling out an M198 on the flight deck.
Nothing like blasting droids away with massive artillery guns.
Really love this awesome piece of engineering. It's probably one of my favorite artillery pieces in Star Wars. But I think it would be better if it had solid slugs like a mass driver cannon on tje AT-TE rather than only plasma shots.
Boom boom boom boom, the sound of coming doom...
It would make more sense for indirect fire, but remember this means you need physical ammunition, which means the thing needs something like a bustle autoloader system, which could be a hazard if it gets hit, though I suppose tibanna gas goes off about as hard as chemical explosives and propellants. If you don't want to add more stuff to the vehicle, your only option would be to have it be accompanied by a supply vehicle that carries all the ammo, and you'd also need a gun crew, and probably a crane on the vehicle itself to lift the shells into loading position. This would mean that for every AV-7 you airlift into the battle, you need to airlift a completely separate vehicle with all the ammo, which means you limit how many guns you can bring assuming you don't have an infinite supply of transports. Really the AV-7 is kind of ingenious in a way, because you only need the vehicle itself.
@@rudatkatzn9171 Let's dig this trench together, attrition lasts forever!
I wish we saw more of these but compared to the Swiss Army knife that is the AT-TE, I kinda understand.
Thanks, 47, for that weapons tactical summary
I was so happy to get this LEGO set.
yeah they look cool
Minor feedback, when you compared it to the Pak40 you used footage of the 37mm Pak36. The Pak40 is a long barrel 75mm cannon. Almost identical to the Panther's gun
He should have used the flak 88
Neat-O! I managed to get a couple of the Hasbro Clone Wars AV-7s. Yeah, the treads are silly, but they're also kinda cute.
Love that Karen Traviss book, along with her "Commando" series. She writes "Star Wars" novels PERFECTLY.
Love your channel mate! Always get hyped when a vehicle breakdown by you gets dropped
Thanks I love to hear it
I want to see a fan art design that takes the AV7 and mounts on like a modified ATTE or ATOT to make an SPG version. I think that would be cool and considering that we have tried to mount big guns onto modified tank chassis and probably still do. I think it would be a cool concept.
This gun also had a dope ass lego version, and is one of my favorite lego sets I own
I love these cannons
wish we saw more
@3:15 is it just me, or is that agent 47 reading that excerpt
YAS!
I like the in-lore idea that it was an artillery piece first and ship battery second. I always wondered why we didn't see vendors use them in the clone wars show.
as far as I was aware, the only land-based artillery weapon we ever actually see firing from a venator is one of the big beam cannons from attack of the clones firing out of the venator's hangar bay during the battle of coruscant in the beginning of revenge of the sith.
Thank you for bringing to my attention that Karen Traviss, author of my favorite Halo series, also has written at least one Star Wars book
I’m pretty sure she also wrote the Republic Commando novels. Absolutely love her writing style which is probably why I also love the Halo novels she’s written. Recommend RC: Hard Contact if you haven’t already read it
She was heavily involved in Star Wars for a time, then left dissatisfied TCW wasn't faithful to her depiction of the Mandalorians. Which to be fair, she was essentially the one that gave meat to the lore and backstory of the Mandalorians.
There is sooo much detail in SW nowadays… a new hope as a stand-alone movie has such a different vibe
Agent 47 doing some VA work, nice.
I had this on in the background as noise when I heard Agent 47 and quickly turned back to my phone thinking “I thought I put on a Star Wars video?”
Really threw me through a loop for a second haha
I knew this was gonna be a good one when I saw the word "overpressure" in the thumbnail
Given the design of the stabilizer legs and their ability to fold in and out, as well as angle up and down, I can see them being able to shimmy side to side like a crab or awkwardly walk forward.
Could definitely see it being not be designed to do that and this very difficult to make that work right, though
Loved the video MN
I always wondered why the SPHA-T walker wasn't featured in TCW, and if it would be possible for the SPHA-T to penetrate Worm Lothsome's shields in the TCW movie.
Thanks love them
I think it was actually able to walk, its just that the repulsor was so much faster for moving around then walking and probably less stress on its parts as well
"Overpressure, set to chest-level". It's meant to take out crews, to pulp their organs. Shit.
Kinda reminds me of the neutron artillery shells from C&C Generals. Disables vehicles by killing the crew with extreme-intensity, zero-halflife bursts of ionizing radiation, wiping the crews but leaving the machine intact, and the isotope only lingers for a few seconds before going inert, so it's not even irradiated afterward, safe to use in minutes. Utterly diabolical, but very clever.
I remember those from one of (if not the first) games I ever played on the 360, Lego SW The Clone Wars
Simple yet effective. I love this mobile turbolaser
Hey, those are basically Greed Corp's Cannons :D
Even with its whiplash unbalanching the whole structure back and forth after each firing
J-1 Proton Cannon = Flak 18/36/37/41
AV-7 = Zis-3 Divisional Gun
Change my mind
10/10, perhaps the sniper droidika next. If not already a video
I'm curious if any of the Empire at War mods have it included. The one I did see is dead and never released.
Another great video for sure! Thanks again for the quality content!
The Modern guns that remind me most fo the Star Wars 'AV-7' are the 2S22 Bohdana or the 2s7 Pion - in terms of looks, battlefield use / tactics and effects;
They are self propelled artillery pieces, have higher than usual muzzle velocity (big guns!) and an exposed gunner position to the side of the barrel (though in practice this is only for resolving targets and aiming, firing is done away from the weapon with a cord (due to that overpressure! 🤯) -
I'd even suggest that again in terms of looks, use and effects the 2s7 Pion and the 2S22 Bohdana are likely some of if not THE direct inspirations for the Star Wars AV-7 cannon. I also don't see the comparison to the PAC 36 or PAC 40 as you suggest, Search '2s7 Pion' and you can see yourself.
Though I do concede that the way the AV-7 is used in Star Wars is more akin to the PAC 40; that it's often portrayed being used (incorrectly) in a direct fire role rather than indirect fire, which also seems strange to me also! But I guess we can think of ways to explain this 😅
It's artillery, use it like artillery!
I'm not poking holes, just wanted to add to the discussion 😊 thanks again Meta Nerds for a great breakdown - i also like the idea of it being artillery first and then a ship battery later, just as armies adapt with what they have in our galaxy.
"When seppie tanks are closing in on your position, you're going to call for armored support, but when they aren't available, you're going to rely on the dependable AV-7."
Well, no. Ideally, you'd call for artillery to deal with enemy armor, but anyways! Love the video!
Wish we got to see more of these weapons. At least maybe as a siege type of artillery. Like a city wife bombardment.
I think that the way it is a walking gun, it is really similar to vechicles like waffentrager and Panzerselbstfahrlafette series, which were essentially mobile gun emplacements
I used to dunk on Clankers with this in the lego star wars the Clone wars video game.
The US gun used as a real world example was a license produced Royal Ordnance QF Six Pounder(57mm)
British
This artillery piece would be great for the rebel alliance due to it's many designs
It is somewhat strange there are no tanks and other vehicles with hybrid propulsion systems that would allow go threw shields. For example, a TX-130 could use repulses as its primary mode of movement and switch to wheels or tracks when it penetrates shields.
Would a walker/repulsor hybrid tank work? Like could you repulsor very quickly toward or away from your enemy but then deploy legs, wheels, or treads to move through a shield?
Was that Hitman’s voice reading the excerpt by Rex? How do you know Agent 47!?
Ayo, is that Clone Wars audiobook read by Agent 47?!?
Hell yeah it is.
@MetaNerdzLore , could u do a breakdown of the different spec ops forces in Star Wars like RC's, Inferno and Pathfinders
RIP to those gunners' necks. Whiplash city up in there.
Until I watched this video I had NO idea Karen Traviss wrote a Clone Wars book. Gotta pick that up.
If the rounds can be set to explode at chest height instead of on impact, are we sure the cannon isn’t firing a type of plasma coated physical round, like what the AT-TE does with its Mass Driver cannon?
Crazy thing is that these guns probably would’ve better than the laser turrent towers on Hoth.
Can you imagine the spines of the clone gunner
I want this as a Lego set. We see it in the Star wars the clone wars game. And with clone wars sets getting reprints. I hope that they make this into a set
Would the AV-7 be usable as a long-range anti air gun? Considering its size and strength, it could use some sort of airburst, no?
This gun seems strange to me because the barrel width is huge at the end, and it seems short ranged in the shows but not in episode 3, although I think your footage from 0:26 might be of the J-1 proton cannon like you show at 5:03. If it's medium range artillery, that's anything beyond mortar fire, which is max range of 2 miles IRL for a 60mm mortar shell, and long range would likely be anything beyond 20 miles, like how the M-777's max range is around 20 miles. For a capital space ship, it likely doesn't have the rate of fire or projectile speed to make sense at anything other than point blank, but within atmosphere I think it makes more sense, but the shows seem to show ranges at less than 5 miles, IMO. 6:10 I know that the credits cost figures are probably made up in about 5 minutes by some random writer, but apparently an M-777 system costs 2-4 million USD, so 14,000 credits seems CHEAP when a GPMG (M60? M240? MG-3?) equivalent is 2200.
A cannon like that was not only brilliant and they was also utilized by the rebel alliance.
Only in LEGO Star Wars 3 The close Wars the weapon was a beast ... and I have no clue why.
AV-7 cannons: *exist*
Close Troopers: *happy helmet noises*
Death Korps of Krieg from Warhammer 40k: *happy gas mask noises*
also the Death Korps: We'll take a thousand of them.
Your'e in luck sir, in buying your first order of one-thousand AV7 artillery we've also decided to throw in an extra shipment of one-thousand GAR survival shovels
I hate that we pretty much only ever see it in show so they can show off how strong the enemy armor is.
Ey! Swedish made ARCHER system!!
The AV-7 is an absolute beast of a howitzer. Canonically, it is over 15 meters long, with most of that being the barrel. This makes its barrel almost three times longer than the British 5.5" howitzer or the American 155mm Long Tom while filling the same role. The barrel length makes it effective range of around 45 to 50 kilometers.
Now pointing out the AV-7's lack of armor and self-defense capabilities as a problem is rather pointless, since this is a howitzer and is supposed to a minimum of one-third of its effective range behind the lines (meaning about 15 kilometers). This would put it well beyond the range of direct fire weapons such as tank main guns and infantry small arms, as well as beyond the range of infantry mortars. Indeed, its manner of employment at Cristophsis and Geonosis simply reinforce my long held belief that the Jedi were universally poor battlefield commanders. They had tactical skill but lacked the necessary training to be anything more than company commanders.
Who's voice is being used for 3:18? It sounds incredibly familiar but I'm not sure from where
It's Agent 47's VA.
"Shatter their skies!"
I wish we'd see more artillery in star wars media
3:21 I’m sorry is that Agent 47’s voice actor?
Star Wars version of the WW2 era Soviet M1939 85mm gun/ Or the German 88mm Flak gun (Despite their original role of AA they are extremely affective against armored vehicles as well)😂😂😂
I could see the av7 transform into a tank
Was that Agent 47 narrating the book?
I wonder if the AV-7 could one shot an AT-AT?
Not likely, if the ATAT was dismounting infantry maybe, we've seen the ATAT tank multiple ATTE hits in a weak point
@@calebbarnhouse496 but it would certainly ring that AT-AT's bell.
@@merafirewing6591 oh yes, heavy fire will never be liked
@@calebbarnhouse496 still it's very cool that Clone Wars era equipment just doesn't give a rat's arse against Imperial equipment. And some of them still hit like a truck.
Very likely, yes. This calibre of cannon is much larger than what AT-AT's possess. One shot will deal CONSIDERABLE damage if not outright kill the crew. AT-TE's and AAT's had pretty heavy guns, but the AV-7 and J-1 were full-on artillery. The next size up. Perhaps the Juggernaut could withstand a shot or two?
Its a bit like the German 88 . ( just started)
3:16 is that agent 47?
What is the game at the start?
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I do have a comment on this vid...and it is "glory to the republic...and fuck the empire"
what is it with ludicrously exposed gunners on Republic hardware?!?! also that %&mm is actually the Soviet S-60 AA gun. its basically their exact equivalent of the Bofors.
You could say it's a "cannon" source
ah yes the 16 inch gun of Star Wars
Boom 💥, I prefer American Paladin 😂
Biggest question, can these things walk?
So it only fires plasma shells?
Yeah I think so, not like the AT-TE even with those what look like shells on the side you can say it somehow just charges the plasma shot
2:36 what game is that?
What is the game where it moves around?
A star wars empire at war mod called Fall of the Republic
av7 intresting choice for a name the real life av7 was germany's ww1 big lumbering monster of a tank.
well these are clearly meant to be artillery guns
It does seem to be a bit to cheap for an artillery, only being around 12000 credits more than the rifle
no wonder it looks like a Flak 88
It shows the people who DREW THIS dont understand how artillery works as opposed to Anti Tank weapons....
my ? is why does every clone war era arty gun has to have legs
Lol space gunz
I think because of the nature of the SPHAs weapon it used up to much power for repulsorlifts to be viable.
I mean a ground based artillery units weapon that is powerful enough to take out a ship as big as core ship is gonna eat power like crazy.
As for the AV-7 I think that’s just for stability.
@@phoenixx913 in my mind tracks are more stable then 4 legs sense its more even out thro the entire track system instead of 4 tiny legs but I know nothing about whatever science this is
Why did I think MetaNerdz was asian LMAOOOO
1/10 no footage of Lego Clone Wars battles :(
"canon sources"
algo comment :D
Are you ok?
Lol nah pending alien invasion getting me
@@MetaNerdzLore oh ok lol you seemed sad in the video!
it's useless against the super tank
the closest gun i can find that might be able to give a comparable weight is the
2A3 Kondensator 2P
Mass 64 tons
Length 20.00 m (65 ft 7 in)
Width 3.08 m (10 ft 1 in)
Height 5.75 m (18 ft 10 in)
Crew 8
source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2A3_Kondensator_2P
taim & bak !!