Rob, I'm 71 and no longer can play however, your opening statement still rings true to me today. You crack me up! "There are two things in life that will guarantee you happiness and fulfillment; Real good barbecue and a new piece of drum gear". LOL! So true. so true!
I got an FP9-C when they first came out. Changed my life, man. So much so that I took ALL of my DW9000 pedals (I had six of them…one in my studio, two that travel with me, one in the studio I work at two days a week, one spare and one for parts if needed) and traded them all in for FP9-C pedals. Best pedal I’ve EVER played, hands down.
Congratulations on your new pedal. What drummer doesn't get excited about gear , let alone anticipating some new gear and then finally bringing it to the drum shed. Keep it Grooving Rob 🥁
1975 Slingerland Yellow Jacket. All ball-bearing and double springs. Really swings a wood beater and is super sturdy. Still going after all these years.
The floor spikes in the back and all the adjustments easily accessible is like a dream.I can get a lil bent out of shape at times down on all 4s trying to mess with my peddle.High five on your Yamaha peddle upgrade.
I have chronic back pain. If you have back pain, the twisting of your body to reach your snare and high hat has been an issue for me that limited the amount of time behind my drum set. I just bought the Offset Eclipse double bass drum pedal and I love it. I now sit straight on my Snare, Bass Drum and can more easily reach my 2 floor toms without causing pain, resulting in more time behind my drum set. If you have back pain, I highly recommend the Offset Eclipse Bass drum pedal.
Just got myself one. It’s amazing! I’ve been following this channel for a couple of years now, and I’ve learnt to trust Rob’s shopping recommendations. At this point I’m not even watching the whole video - if he recommends something, I just go buy it. 😀😀
Own one since 2020 (doublepedal), in general a great piece of kit, but mine had and has some issues. There is a bushing in the heel plate in which the bolt holds together the hinge. This bushing is very thin and as soon as it breaks the hinge rattles. Replacement parts come straight from Japan and took 2 months to arrive (to Europe). And I am just waiting for it to break again, easy repair though. The drive shaft to the slave pedal is, smooth, sturdy right up to the point in time when one of the screws from the joints comes loose. You can put it together again, no problem, but there are 2 spacers and a ball bearing which you need to find again for it to work properly. Good luck finding them on stage. But from a performance standpoint, the best pedal I ever played. But keep an allen wrench at hand 😉
Over a year later, are you still digging this pedal? If so, do you remember the adjustments that you made? I tried one for a few days and could not get comfortable with it. I tried adjusting the beater angle, footboard angle, cam setting, and nothing helped. I went back to the DFP9500.
Great clip, Rob! I just got my FP9 myself and everything you said about it is spot on point! Can’t wait to get the HHS9D hi hat to go with it and it’s bye-bye DW9K!
There’s nothing like a new bass drum pedal. I’m happy for you. Looks like a pretty perfect pedal. I own a DW9000 single that I played for years and I still have it in the bag at home. My main pedal I have been using since 2019 has been the Pearl Eliminator Redline single. I absolutely love that pedal. So smooth. So playable. Built like a tank. Everyone is making great pedals. Just comes down to taste and what speaks to you.
Used an original eliminator double pedal from 2009 to last week. What pedal did I order to replace it? The Pearl Eliminator Redline single hahaha and I completely agree with you
@@YouGrim I don't believe so. The chain drive can be swapped to belt and back easily, but I think the DD is a stand alone thing. I already have what's apparently a highly regarded chain pedal from another brand (won't mess up Rob's Yamaha support here by mentioning who) which I don't really get on with, hence being OK with the DD as is.
@@dave_sanderson yeah the two pedals I have is an old one using a leather belt thing and a Ludwig speed king. But used a lot of chain at other kits I’ve sat behind. I just associate chain with being cheaper and worse somehow, don’t know if it’s actually a big difference for me Belt might be my favourite way of having a pedal so far
One thing that really stood out to me was how the “movement” section was mounted to an independent solid precision-machined frame. Also, the lower tension swivels on the post. I love my Swiv-o-magic, but this is a new league all of its own. First pedal I’ve had to catch up to as it outperforms me.
I have this same double pedal..I use the strap. Its my favorite pedal, it does seem to be as smooth and responsive as a pedal can get..many reviewers say that on TH-cam. Great video, awesome explanation!
Been using a Flying Dragon (chain drive) for ~15 years.... bought it used on ebay actually. I changed the tension spring one time and have gone through a couple of beaters, but have never touched anything else on it. I've tried literally every other "high end" pedal but always go back to it...
Love the fact it won't fishtail and yes Yamaha being also a motorcycle manufacturer it makes sense that all the mechanical parts on this pedal are first class in design
After watching this video today, I purchased direct drive double pedal version from Sweetwater. If this Yamaha pedal is good enough for Rob beat down brown, It's definitely more than good enough for me! I was looking at the Pearl demon drive and after seeing this pedal it was clear which one I wanted to buy. Thanks Rob!
Crazy I came across this tonight. I'm seconds away from submitting my order for the double kick chain version. That 679 is hard to swallow, though! Thank you for taking the time to review it.
I hear that it comes with a belt also. Do yourself a favor and try it. I went back to the belt on my Pearl Redline Eliminator and it was heaven. I advocate the belt to others and half of them switched back. It's worth a try.
Haha that smell test was brought to you by flossycarter! Clean pedal 😍!!!! I've been wanting to try a direct drive pedal, I also want a low boy hi hat for when I brush!!!!
Congratulations on your new pedal you can't go wrong with a Yamaha anything really. It's amazing everything Yamaha make's it's really incredible the amount of stuff. I will have to check it out at the drum shop i go to to see if they have one in stock to take a look at it. I have an AXIS double pedel and had it for 30 years it was a long time ago and still use it to this day it cost me 500 bucks for both back then that was a lot of money for a double bass pedel. I did have to do a few things to it after i got it do to some dumb engineering to make it to my liking but ever since it's been a great pedel. When it came out it was really different from other pedals but i do like it. Thanks for the video Rock on buddy.
You know, my first "pro-level" hardware and kit was all Yamaha when I was younger and through the decades, whether influenced by marketing or simply experimentation, I shyed away but always stayed on the pulse of what Yamaha was doing. I might just take a step back and go to my "roots" with Yamaha, including this pedal.. very nice features and quality. I used to have a Flying Dragon single pedal that was ultra smooth... the FP9x seems like a real winner. Hope to see you at NAMM in April, Rob!
Amazing pedal! I use Yamaha pedals too, but the version before this one. The feel is more important than the total number of adjustements. I'm sure you all remember the Iron Cobra Power Glide from TAMA in the late 90's, autoproclaiming themselves ''The Legend in Innovation'' embossed on the foot board... lol! It did come with tons of adjustement and was looking solid so a lot of drummers did have one of course, the twin pedal. But in that time, I was studying music and the opportunity to try different pedal from different brand, live on the spot, was easy and possible. Long story short, even with many adjustements, the Iron Cobra feel heavy, the beater didn't have enough weight even with the little weight mover on the shaft. The most terrible part of that model is the Stopper on the foot board, we could not remove it. So playing on that pedal without shoes was a painful experience. Of course, Yamaha are creating amazing products like drums, hardware and pedals. That flat thin foot board without any stopper is the main quality for that pedal, of course there is many others very importants parts. You know, the fact that you can adjust the spring tension on the spot is nice, but it's only to make our life easier, it doesn't improve anything while you are playing drums.
You mean fp9500c? How does it feel different than this one? (The local shops do not have those models so I cannot try it at the moment) But I do have Iron Cobra 600, and I agree that they are heavy.
Nice pedal! Can you adjust the foot board "angle"? Can you adjust the Beater position along the top bar? Can you adjust the "cam" position along the top bar? Are there models for Left handed players and Right handed players? Is there a double kick version?
Great review. I upgraded to this pedal back in September from my DW 3000. I got sold on the spring tension adjuster as well, and I agree with everything you said about quality and craftsmanship. My 3000 is now on my kick pad for practice, it's not bad I just don't feel right some days. I also have a DW2000 for a backup that I like better than the 3000. With the Yamaha it's really easy to reach down and give it a half turn fwd or back if I get tired or need more resistance, even while playing. I only wish that their hi hat stands had a matching footboard, I would buy one of those too. I will definitely be buying Yamaha gear if I need anything replaced or upgraded going forward. Thank you for your practice routines from last year as well, they have helped my playing tremendously these past few months and I haven't even mastered all of them yet.
Ironically enough I was looking at the FP9C last night, reading reviews and such and this is def my next purchase. So I’m wondering if you might do a further review of this, particularly the difference between the chain vs. the strap drive. Anyway, thanks for all that you do for the drum community. I enjoy all the lessons and practice rudiments at least 30 minutes a day thx to you! Peace, Gary
Lots of extreme metal guys prefer strap.. there's crazy in depth pedal vids on TH-cam and there's one guy that breaks it down.. but I think its for those UK boutique pedals. DARWIN I think they're called.
@@disf5178 hey thx for that. I have read praises of the strap over the chain and can’t wait to try them both. It is easy to think, “Why use the nylon strap when it has a chain?”
@@gmoney9794 I hear you. Counterintuitive to think strap would be "better/faster"..and even "more durable"..I suppose it makes sense upfront that it's smoother. Anyhow..if it's like Rob says, and a new pedal comes with both.. and you get one.. I'll be looking out for your verdict. Question is...which will you try first 🧐😉
I literally played this exact pedal (actually, the direct drive version) for the first time on a gig a few days ago at the McCallum Theater in Palm Desert, CA. It was part of their house backline. It took me some time during soundcheck to figure it out and get the feel right; getting a good balance of the beater and footboard angles was most crucial. I found that even the slightest angle adjustments made a huge difference in feel. Once I had it set up to my liking, it was great! I'm sticking with my Tama Speed Cobras, but would welcome this pedal on any backline kit.
I bought the double pedal version in early 2022 and although it was built great, I didn't like the feel. I ended up returning it and getting the Pearl Eliminator Redline and I like them so much better. To each their own. I had a lot of Yamaha stuff back in the day and now it is mostly Tama and Gibraltar with the new Pearl pedal as my first and only item from Pearl. Rock on!
I've had mine for about a year. While it's true that the gear doesn't make the artist, this pedal has definitely helped me develop my techniques for the better, and my confidence. I know you just got it, but man...this is a piece of kit to enjoy for a long time. :)
I have been playing the same Yamaha you were. Got to try a DW9000 a couple weeks ago. I was like 😲! Couldn't believe the difference. I imagine it's similar for this high-end Yamaha. My next upgrade will be a great kick pedal!
I was looking to buy my first real high-end bass pedals, now that I can afford it. Double pedals and direct drive were a priority, and I landed on either the Yamaha DFP9D, a Pearl Demon Drive, or a Tama Dyna-Sync. And after all the reviews I've watched, the thing that made decide to go for the Yamaha now is that you, the guy who basically taught me at least half of what I know about drumming via TH-cam, says that this is a great pedal. You will never read this, but thanks for being an amazing guidance on my way to become, and grow as, a drummer.
Interesting. I think these things must be subjective as I bought the FP9 and after a few days I returned it for a refund as I felt that it was not as smooth as my Yamaha FP8500c and Yamaha FP9500c - for your info, I prefer the 8500c due to its longer footboard making heal/toe technique easier. Anyway, I find the 8500 and 9500 Yamaha’s to be smoother ‘and’ quieter. I did find the FP9 did have a few little rattles here and there that are totally silent on the 8500/9500 Yamaha pedals. Also, I wonder why Dave Weckl sticks with the 9500 (with strap replacing chain) instead of going with the newer FP9?? Hmmm - again, subjective I suppose. I wanted to love the FP9 because of its long smooth footboard, which was the only thing I liked about this pedal. What I didn’t like was the price, the little rattles (I’m kind of OCD and a perfectionist) and the cheap feeling plastic top-mounted knurled spring tensioner. I’m speculating here, but it did not inspire confidence for longevity and I can see these breaking and not standing the test of time. I personally don’t like the old-fashioned round felt beater - V-drummers will hate this. For me personally, although I play a high-ish end Roland electronic kit all this nonsense about not having felt beaters hit the mesh Roland head did not bother me as I always stick a black rubber Evans patch on the head anyway as I prefer the way they feel and with my 9500 I have the beater felt-side around and not the plastic side. But I would have liked to have seen the FP9 come with a double-sided beater - yes, I know, you can buy the Yamaha one for £30, but is it’s weight designed to match the FP9, hmmm - those little weights won’t fit it that’s for sure. In the UK they have come down a bit. They are no longer a stupid price of £300 plus, some shops are doing them for £249 here in England. Just my pennies worth. And, again, I think these things are subjective and personal - I so much wanted to love the FP9, but it wasn't to be the case, in 'my' case. Love the channel, Rob!
Beatdown speaks the truth young ones. Outstanding BBQ is one of life's greatest pleasures and necessities. Coupled with an ever expanding shed of drum gear and life is good... very good.
The Yamaha hardware will outlive us all. Too funny but so true. I have my first snare stand from 5th grade 1981. Still using. Cold War relic… no reason to ever change it.
I have the Pearl Eliminator pedals, but if money was no object and I wanted new pedals, I'm realing liking the new pedals (last couple years) that Yamaha came out with. They even look cool too! Good choice, but no surprise you picked Yamaha.
Love most Yamaha pedals but couldn't get on with the FP9. Because of the cam position and how it specifically attaches to the footboard, it nose dives into the head. Does not feel linear in motion despite the cam.
Hey Rob.... I've had the pedal since the beginning of our 1 year and half sabbatical.... I have one on my Yamaha recording custom and one on my church TD 50x electric acrylic kit. Love them!!! It changed my bass playing forever!!!.. doubles are so easy. and I took it up a level. I got a machined aluminum blue bass beater. One piece... wow. the weight is different than any other beater I've ever played with. The focus is tighter and not clumsy like some beaters. lower profile makes it have more feel. Aliexpress. I think $11.00 with shipping....check it out!
Great pick up, Rob! If anyone will put it through its paces, it’s you. 🤘🏻🤘🏻 Oh…and I’m totally stealing “Smells like thump” (giving you full credit of course).😉❤️
I'm a total drum noob but even I could tell my elderly Tama Swingstar kick pedal was less than optimal, so I picked up a Sonor Perfect Balance. I was thinking this was a lot less expensive than the Yamaha FP9C but I find retail it's not much less; I got mine on eBay from a reputable retailer on sale for $160. I thought I was getting the Jojo Mayer one but, whoops, I was confused. Still, this is a lot like the Jojo Mayer pedal, except it doesn't collapse down for travel. The Yamaha has hella more adjustments, though. I liked the Sonor enough to get their hihat stand, too. Big improvement over my well-used Tama circa 1980.
NICE!! I went from Rogers Swiv - O - Matic 1974 - 1990 then Zalmer Twin to Iron Cobras then Yammy Flying Dragon direct drive (loved that pedal but footboards too wide) Pearl Eliminator (great) to now Pearl Demon Drives. You new Yamaha pedal peaks my interest and has similar adjustments to the Demon drives. Good Video amigo.
Yeah, but have you seen Tama's "the classic" HP50? An amazingly adjustable pedal with all kinds of other cool details this one doesn't have, and it's in the $100 range! I love em so much I bought two full sets of their hardware. The hihat stand is also killer.
I upgraded from a DW 5000 to a DW 9000 and I NEVER GOT ADJUSTED TO IT...🥁😓 Idk, it's like, too smooth, if that's even a thing??? Those 3s in the opening of John the Fisherman are right at the edge of my skill level, but I feel like it was easier with the old pedal. (Congrats Rob! Very Nice)
Learning that song when I was a kid helped me develop from what I’ve been told is a pretty mean single foot. Shoot, learning as much Primus as I possibly could helped me develop into the drummer I am today. Herb is that dude. I feel you on the 9000 too. I dropped $650 on a double pedal back in the day & felt like I just couldn’t quite get it right where I wanted it. I’ve had my eye on this pedal for a few years now. Hopefully this is THE ONE.
I have the FP-9D direct drive model. It replaced my long-revered Ludwig Speed King, feels very similar but is WAY more robust. Like everything else Yamaha makes, it’s built like a tank. The direct drive action is FAST. My only criticism of it is the black beater, that it leaves stains all over my heads and even on my Yamaha DTX kick drum pad. But what a great pedal !
That was an excellent overview. I have an original Flying Dragon from 2002, 2003? Changing something like a bass drum pedal … that’s the kind of thing I want to go through as few times in life as possible. But this video got my attention. If I were to make a change ….
Funny, I just saw a vid about ASBA Drums new neo-classic pedal which seems like an awesome single pedal. I personally have Yamaha and Pearl Eliminator Red, and Tama Iron Cobra pedals.
No one ever mentions this, but this pedal has a flaw or two. I own this pedal and performance wise it's good, however, the base of the pedal is way too wide and that makes it impractical to anyone who finds themselves in situations where they have to play a drum kit with t handle tuning pegs, ie having to play at a multi band show on someone else's older kit. So far it can wedge in there but I definitely have had to turn the t handle to fit it in. Also, the bottom clamp is firmly set unlike say a DW which has a more forgiving clamp system so clamping it down on the hoop so it is sitting perfectly flat on the ground takes some fiddling around. Not the end of the world but every time I set it up I find it kind of irritating. Just some things to be aware of before you buy if you are looking at these.
I got one in 2019. I now play in socks so I don't scratch the board. It's stunningly well made and so smooth. I had an old iron cobra before and this is miles better. I've gigged it regularly for all that time and it looks and feels brand new. Its a brilliant bit of kit and a worthwhile investment
Hey Rob, another great gear suggestion - I want one! By the way, you mentioned your Yamaha hihat stand and I'm in the market for one - which stand have you had all these years?
Preference and personal opinions are fit as flying opinion and flying dragons and Yes you get what you pay for !This is a nice one for the money and isn't Rob fun!! Not to mention a killer player!
Since this was close to the topic of the kick drum (kinda), would you say that the kick drum head (if its dead) affects the rebound and in turn the kick pedal? It might be an obvious answer to some but it never hurts to ask right?
I always get excited when I get a new piece of drum gear, or waiting for it to show up, new or used. My last purchase was just a $10 Drum head port hole cutter, and I still got excited and couldn't wait to use it! New pedals though, that deserves a celebration with some BBQ!
I also see apparently there is not velcro on the bottom base of the pedal ... to me is always been sort of a pain to install or move the pedal around once it gets its velcro paws into the rug ... I like that , no more Westling to move it around on installation ...
I hear you about the BBQ and new drum gear. There was nothing better than traveling to Sweetwater to pick up some new Paiste hats and Tama hi hat stand. They smell great also 😂
Hey Rob, big fan of your page and your knowledge and sharing style. Here’s the other foot, I don’t know to what extent you’re involved with the merch store but I’m having a difficult time getting a shirt I ordered as a bday gift. It appears they are made as they’re ordered. I have received emails about production delays, but i guess i was just surprised I wasn’t just buying a made shirt. Thanks for letting me vent, any help would be appreciated. Thanks Rob, or should I say Flamuel L. Jackson!
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Rob, I'm 71 and no longer can play however, your opening statement still rings true to me today. You crack me up! "There are two things in life that will guarantee you happiness and fulfillment; Real good barbecue and a new piece of drum gear". LOL! So true. so true!
I got an FP9-C when they first came out. Changed my life, man. So much so that I took ALL of my DW9000 pedals (I had six of them…one in my studio, two that travel with me, one in the studio I work at two days a week, one spare and one for parts if needed) and traded them all in for FP9-C pedals. Best pedal I’ve EVER played, hands down.
Congratulations on your new pedal. What drummer doesn't get excited about gear , let alone anticipating some new gear and then finally bringing it to the drum shed. Keep it Grooving Rob 🥁
“Smells like Thump!!!” 🤣
Got mee too 🤣
That’s a tee shirt
It goes with “Maximum Thumpification”
1975 Slingerland Yellow Jacket. All ball-bearing and double springs. Really swings a wood beater and is super sturdy. Still going after all these years.
The only thing those needed was to ditch the leather strap and get a industrial fiberglass strap. Other than that? Super fast pedal!
The floor spikes in the back and all the adjustments easily accessible is like a dream.I can get a lil bent out of shape at times down on all 4s trying to mess with my peddle.High five on your Yamaha peddle upgrade.
😂 I hear you, but I either just sit on the floor or lay on my side. Those adjustments are pretty slick, especially that locking tension knob.
I have chronic back pain. If you have back pain, the twisting of your body to reach your snare and high hat has been an issue for me that limited the amount of time behind my drum set. I just bought the Offset Eclipse double bass drum pedal and I love it. I now sit straight on my Snare, Bass Drum and can more easily reach my 2 floor toms without causing pain, resulting in more time behind my drum set. If you have back pain, I highly recommend the Offset Eclipse Bass drum pedal.
Just got myself one. It’s amazing! I’ve been following this channel for a couple of years now, and I’ve learnt to trust Rob’s shopping recommendations. At this point I’m not even watching the whole video - if he recommends something, I just go buy it. 😀😀
This is the best pedal I have ever played! I changed out the chain for the strap......Amazing feel and response!
Own one since 2020 (doublepedal), in general a great piece of kit, but mine had and has some issues.
There is a bushing in the heel plate in which the bolt holds together the hinge. This bushing is very thin and as soon as it breaks the hinge rattles. Replacement parts come straight from Japan and took 2 months to arrive (to Europe). And I am just waiting for it to break again, easy repair though.
The drive shaft to the slave pedal is, smooth, sturdy right up to the point in time when one of the screws from the joints comes loose. You can put it together again, no problem, but there are 2 spacers and a ball bearing which you need to find again for it to work properly. Good luck finding them on stage.
But from a performance standpoint, the best pedal I ever played. But keep an allen wrench at hand 😉
I've been wanting the Double Kick direct drive version when I saw it 3 years ago. They look top notch!!!
Over a year later, are you still digging this pedal? If so, do you remember the adjustments that you made? I tried one for a few days and could not get comfortable with it. I tried adjusting the beater angle, footboard angle, cam setting, and nothing helped. I went back to the DFP9500.
Love your content, i just picked up the direct drive double pedal version. What an amazing pedal, the build and feel is second to none. Go Yamaha!
Rob...you are right . Excellent pedal, easy to set up and spurs on back instead of front(beautiful). thanks again
Great clip, Rob! I just got my FP9 myself and everything you said about it is spot on point! Can’t wait to get the HHS9D hi hat to go with it and it’s bye-bye DW9K!
There’s nothing like a new bass drum pedal. I’m happy for you. Looks like a pretty perfect pedal.
I own a DW9000 single that I played for years and I still have it in the bag at home. My main pedal I have been using since 2019 has been the Pearl Eliminator Redline single. I absolutely love that pedal. So smooth. So playable. Built like a tank. Everyone is making great pedals. Just comes down to taste and what speaks to you.
Used an original eliminator double pedal from 2009 to last week. What pedal did I order to replace it? The Pearl Eliminator Redline single hahaha and I completely agree with you
Thank you Rob .how do you feel about the direct drive on that same model pedal?
I just bought the Direct Drive version this past week (after looking at it for ages) and so far I’m also super impressed.
Is it possible to swap between direct drive and chain? Don’t know what I prefer at the moment
@@YouGrim I don't believe so. The chain drive can be swapped to belt and back easily, but I think the DD is a stand alone thing. I already have what's apparently a highly regarded chain pedal from another brand (won't mess up Rob's Yamaha support here by mentioning who) which I don't really get on with, hence being OK with the DD as is.
@@dave_sanderson yeah the two pedals I have is an old one using a leather belt thing and a Ludwig speed king. But used a lot of chain at other kits I’ve sat behind.
I just associate chain with being cheaper and worse somehow, don’t know if it’s actually a big difference for me
Belt might be my favourite way of having a pedal so far
@@YouGrim - It is not possible to switch the direct drive to anything else. The chain drive can be switched to the included strap however.
How much was it
One thing that really stood out to me was how the “movement” section was mounted to an independent solid precision-machined frame. Also, the lower tension swivels on the post. I love my Swiv-o-magic, but this is a new league all of its own. First pedal I’ve had to catch up to as it outperforms me.
congrats to you and your new pedal. personally, i have a p-3000d. total game changer.
I have this same double pedal..I use the strap. Its my favorite pedal, it does seem to be as smooth and responsive as a pedal can get..many reviewers say that on TH-cam. Great video, awesome explanation!
Been using a Flying Dragon (chain drive) for ~15 years.... bought it used on ebay actually. I changed the tension spring one time and have gone through a couple of beaters, but have never touched anything else on it. I've tried literally every other "high end" pedal but always go back to it...
I have the double pedal version. I tried all kinds of pedals over the years. These are the best!
Love the fact it won't fishtail and yes Yamaha being also a motorcycle manufacturer it makes sense that all the mechanical parts on this pedal are first class in design
Forgot to mention that the bottom spring connection swivels as well! Just bought this pedal last week. It is amazing!!
After watching this video today, I purchased direct drive double pedal version from Sweetwater. If this Yamaha pedal is good enough for Rob beat down brown, It's definitely more than good enough for me! I was looking at the Pearl demon drive and after seeing this pedal it was clear which one I wanted to buy. Thanks Rob!
Crazy I came across this tonight. I'm seconds away from submitting my order for the double kick chain version. That 679 is hard to swallow, though! Thank you for taking the time to review it.
I hear that it comes with a belt also. Do yourself a favor and try it. I went back to the belt on my Pearl Redline Eliminator and it was heaven. I advocate the belt to others and half of them switched back. It's worth a try.
Haha that smell test was brought to you by flossycarter! Clean pedal 😍!!!! I've been wanting to try a direct drive pedal, I also want a low boy hi hat for when I brush!!!!
Congratulations on your new pedal you can't go wrong with a Yamaha anything really. It's amazing everything Yamaha make's it's really incredible the amount of stuff. I will have to check it out at the drum shop i go to to see if they have one in stock to take a look at it. I have an AXIS double pedel and had it for 30 years it was a long time ago and still use it to this day it cost me 500 bucks for both back then that was a lot of money for a double bass pedel. I did have to do a few things to it after i got it do to some dumb engineering to make it to my liking but ever since it's been a great pedel. When it came out it was really different from other pedals but i do like it. Thanks for the video Rock on buddy.
You know, my first "pro-level" hardware and kit was all Yamaha when I was younger and through the decades, whether influenced by marketing or simply experimentation, I shyed away but always stayed on the pulse of what Yamaha was doing. I might just take a step back and go to my "roots" with Yamaha, including this pedal.. very nice features and quality. I used to have a Flying Dragon single pedal that was ultra smooth... the FP9x seems like a real winner.
Hope to see you at NAMM in April, Rob!
Amazing pedal!
I use Yamaha pedals too, but the version before this one.
The feel is more important than the total number of adjustements.
I'm sure you all remember the Iron Cobra Power Glide from TAMA in the late 90's, autoproclaiming themselves ''The Legend in Innovation'' embossed on the foot board... lol! It did come with tons of adjustement and was looking solid so a lot of drummers did have one of course, the twin pedal. But in that time, I was studying music and the opportunity to try different pedal from different brand, live on the spot, was easy and possible. Long story short, even with many adjustements, the Iron Cobra feel heavy, the beater didn't have enough weight even with the little weight mover on the shaft. The most terrible part of that model is the Stopper on the foot board, we could not remove it. So playing on that pedal without shoes was a painful experience.
Of course, Yamaha are creating amazing products like drums, hardware and pedals. That flat thin foot board without any stopper is the main quality for that pedal, of course there is many others very importants parts. You know, the fact that you can adjust the spring tension on the spot is nice, but it's only to make our life easier, it doesn't improve anything while you are playing drums.
You mean fp9500c? How does it feel different than this one? (The local shops do not have those models so I cannot try it at the moment)
But I do have Iron Cobra 600, and I agree that they are heavy.
Nice pedal! Can you adjust the foot board "angle"? Can you adjust the Beater position along the top bar? Can you adjust the "cam" position along the top bar? Are there models for Left handed players and Right handed players? Is there a double kick version?
I bought this pedal last year. Amazing quality for price! Love this pedal!
its my choice too love it i have tried heaps got a few and its a winner my choice from now on love it
Hi Rob...I'm very impressed with this pedal and just wanted to ask....which adjustment on the pedal would change the axis of the beater?.......thanks
Great review. I upgraded to this pedal back in September from my DW 3000. I got sold on the spring tension adjuster as well, and I agree with everything you said about quality and craftsmanship. My 3000 is now on my kick pad for practice, it's not bad I just don't feel right some days. I also have a DW2000 for a backup that I like better than the 3000. With the Yamaha it's really easy to reach down and give it a half turn fwd or back if I get tired or need more resistance, even while playing. I only wish that their hi hat stands had a matching footboard, I would buy one of those too. I will definitely be buying Yamaha gear if I need anything replaced or upgraded going forward. Thank you for your practice routines from last year as well, they have helped my playing tremendously these past few months and I haven't even mastered all of them yet.
Bought the exact same pedal yesterday! The pedal is an absolute beast!
Ironically enough I was looking at the FP9C last night, reading reviews and such and this is def my next purchase. So I’m wondering if you might do a further review of this, particularly the difference between the chain vs. the strap drive.
Anyway, thanks for all that you do for the drum community. I enjoy all the lessons and practice rudiments at least 30 minutes a day thx to you!
Peace,
Gary
Lots of extreme metal guys prefer strap.. there's crazy in depth pedal vids on TH-cam and there's one guy that breaks it down.. but I think its for those UK boutique pedals. DARWIN I think they're called.
@@disf5178 hey thx for that. I have read praises of the strap over the chain and can’t wait to try them both.
It is easy to think, “Why use the nylon strap when it has a chain?”
@@gmoney9794 I hear you. Counterintuitive to think strap would be "better/faster"..and even "more durable"..I suppose it makes sense upfront that it's smoother. Anyhow..if it's like Rob says, and a new pedal comes with both.. and you get one..
I'll be looking out for your verdict.
Question is...which will you try first 🧐😉
I literally played this exact pedal (actually, the direct drive version) for the first time on a gig a few days ago at the McCallum Theater in Palm Desert, CA. It was part of their house backline. It took me some time during soundcheck to figure it out and get the feel right; getting a good balance of the beater and footboard angles was most crucial. I found that even the slightest angle adjustments made a huge difference in feel. Once I had it set up to my liking, it was great! I'm sticking with my Tama Speed Cobras, but would welcome this pedal on any backline kit.
I’m sold on my Tama Dyna-Synch pedals, but this Yamaha pedal looks terrific. That spring tension innovation looks to be just brilliant.
I bought the double pedal version in early 2022 and although it was built great, I didn't like the feel. I ended up returning it and getting the Pearl Eliminator Redline and I like them so much better. To each their own. I had a lot of Yamaha stuff back in the day and now it is mostly Tama and Gibraltar with the new Pearl pedal as my first and only item from Pearl. Rock on!
Good review. I love this pedal! Chain all the way~
The smoothest pedal I ever used was the old Ghost pedal. On either side was an enclosed spring. One for distance and one for tension.
Nice score on this pedal Rob,, and thank you for such a detailed description on this fantastic piece of gear...ya got me thinking about this baby!!
I've had mine for about a year. While it's true that the gear doesn't make the artist, this pedal has definitely helped me develop my techniques for the better, and my confidence. I know you just got it, but man...this is a piece of kit to enjoy for a long time. :)
Love the videos mr rob! Keep up the great work!!
I have been playing the same Yamaha you were. Got to try a DW9000 a couple weeks ago. I was like 😲! Couldn't believe the difference. I imagine it's similar for this high-end Yamaha. My next upgrade will be a great kick pedal!
I was looking to buy my first real high-end bass pedals, now that I can afford it. Double pedals and direct drive were a priority, and I landed on either the Yamaha DFP9D, a Pearl Demon Drive, or a Tama Dyna-Sync. And after all the reviews I've watched, the thing that made decide to go for the Yamaha now is that you, the guy who basically taught me at least half of what I know about drumming via TH-cam, says that this is a great pedal. You will never read this, but thanks for being an amazing guidance on my way to become, and grow as, a drummer.
Love my double direct drive version of the FP9! I just wish Yamaha would make a matching hi hat stand
Good taste! This is my favorite pedal by farrr.
Interesting. I think these things must be subjective as I bought the FP9 and after a few days I returned it for a refund as I felt that it was not as smooth as my Yamaha FP8500c and Yamaha FP9500c - for your info, I prefer the 8500c due to its longer footboard making heal/toe technique easier. Anyway, I find the 8500 and 9500 Yamaha’s to be smoother ‘and’ quieter. I did find the FP9 did have a few little rattles here and there that are totally silent on the 8500/9500 Yamaha pedals. Also, I wonder why Dave Weckl sticks with the 9500 (with strap replacing chain) instead of going with the newer FP9?? Hmmm - again, subjective I suppose.
I wanted to love the FP9 because of its long smooth footboard, which was the only thing I liked about this pedal. What I didn’t like was the price, the little rattles (I’m kind of OCD and a perfectionist) and the cheap feeling plastic top-mounted knurled spring tensioner. I’m speculating here, but it did not inspire confidence for longevity and I can see these breaking and not standing the test of time. I personally don’t like the old-fashioned round felt beater - V-drummers will hate this. For me personally, although I play a high-ish end Roland electronic kit all this nonsense about not having felt beaters hit the mesh Roland head did not bother me as I always stick a black rubber Evans patch on the head anyway as I prefer the way they feel and with my 9500 I have the beater felt-side around and not the plastic side. But I would have liked to have seen the FP9 come with a double-sided beater - yes, I know, you can buy the Yamaha one for £30, but is it’s weight designed to match the FP9, hmmm - those little weights won’t fit it that’s for sure.
In the UK they have come down a bit. They are no longer a stupid price of £300 plus, some shops are doing them for £249 here in England.
Just my pennies worth. And, again, I think these things are subjective and personal - I so much wanted to love the FP9, but it wasn't to be the case, in 'my' case.
Love the channel, Rob!
Really informative as usual. Thanks Rob✌️
This pedal and their Crosstown lightweight stands are simply the best of any.
The smell test is always reliable haha. Love the videos man! I was thinking of grabbin the double version. Keep thumpin!
Love mine! The beater weights are the boss, and the little blue highlights look great. Every design detail just makes this pedal easy to use.
Beatdown speaks the truth young ones. Outstanding BBQ is one of life's greatest pleasures and necessities. Coupled with an ever expanding shed of drum gear and life is good... very good.
Best and most accurate opening ever❤
The Yamaha hardware will outlive us all. Too funny but so true. I have my first snare stand from 5th grade 1981. Still using. Cold War relic… no reason to ever change it.
I have the Pearl Eliminator pedals, but if money was no object and I wanted new pedals, I'm realing liking the new pedals (last couple years) that Yamaha came out with. They even look cool too! Good choice, but no surprise you picked Yamaha.
Say...what. I`ve had the double pedal direct drive for some time now and it`s all because of Mr Rob Brown and yes its kickfunky....💙💙👊👊😎😎
Gotta love a new pedal! I got a jojo mayer pedal not long ago and it’s smooth as hell!!
Just curious if you've ever been able to mess around with a DW9000?
Love most Yamaha pedals but couldn't get on with the FP9. Because of the cam position and how it specifically attaches to the footboard, it nose dives into the head. Does not feel linear in motion despite the cam.
Bought it when it came out. Beauty pedal!
Hey Rob.... I've had the pedal since the beginning of our 1 year and half sabbatical.... I have one on my Yamaha recording custom and one on my church TD 50x electric acrylic kit. Love them!!! It changed my bass playing forever!!!.. doubles are so easy. and I took it up a level. I got a machined aluminum blue bass beater. One piece... wow. the weight is different than any other beater I've ever played with. The focus is tighter and not clumsy like some beaters. lower profile makes it have more feel. Aliexpress. I think $11.00 with shipping....check it out!
Great pick up, Rob! If anyone will put it through its paces, it’s you. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Oh…and I’m totally stealing “Smells like thump” (giving you full credit of course).😉❤️
I'm a total drum noob but even I could tell my elderly Tama Swingstar kick pedal was less than optimal, so I picked up a Sonor Perfect Balance. I was thinking this was a lot less expensive than the Yamaha FP9C but I find retail it's not much less; I got mine on eBay from a reputable retailer on sale for $160. I thought I was getting the Jojo Mayer one but, whoops, I was confused. Still, this is a lot like the Jojo Mayer pedal, except it doesn't collapse down for travel. The Yamaha has hella more adjustments, though.
I liked the Sonor enough to get their hihat stand, too. Big improvement over my well-used Tama circa 1980.
NICE!! I went from Rogers Swiv - O - Matic 1974 - 1990 then Zalmer Twin to Iron Cobras then Yammy Flying Dragon direct drive (loved that pedal but footboards too wide) Pearl Eliminator (great) to now Pearl Demon Drives. You new Yamaha pedal peaks my interest and has similar adjustments to the Demon drives. Good Video amigo.
If using an 18” bass drum, can the beater be lowered enough to strike closer to the center of the drum?
Yeah, but have you seen Tama's "the classic" HP50? An amazingly adjustable pedal with all kinds of other cool details this one doesn't have, and it's in the $100 range! I love em so much I bought two full sets of their hardware. The hihat stand is also killer.
I upgraded from a DW 5000 to a DW 9000 and I NEVER GOT ADJUSTED TO IT...🥁😓 Idk, it's like, too smooth, if that's even a thing??? Those 3s in the opening of John the Fisherman are right at the edge of my skill level, but I feel like it was easier with the old pedal. (Congrats Rob! Very Nice)
Learning that song when I was a kid helped me develop from what I’ve been told is a pretty mean single foot. Shoot, learning as much Primus as I possibly could helped me develop into the drummer I am today. Herb is that dude. I feel you on the 9000 too. I dropped $650 on a double pedal back in the day & felt like I just couldn’t quite get it right where I wanted it. I’ve had my eye on this pedal for a few years now. Hopefully this is THE ONE.
Good luck with your new pedal...🤘
Couldn’t agree more I have a direct drive. Are those also interchangeable like you mentioned chain to belt ?
No, direct drives are not interchangable.
AWESOME, I've been looking for the holy grail of pedals!!!
I have the FP-9D direct drive model. It replaced my long-revered Ludwig Speed King, feels very similar but is WAY more robust. Like everything else Yamaha makes, it’s built like a tank. The direct drive action is FAST.
My only criticism of it is the black beater, that it leaves stains all over my heads and even on my Yamaha DTX kick drum pad. But what a great pedal !
Great and to the point review Rob!
That was an excellent overview. I have an original Flying Dragon from 2002, 2003? Changing something like a bass drum pedal … that’s the kind of thing I want to go through as few times in life as possible. But this video got my attention. If I were to make a change ….
Funny, I just saw a vid about ASBA Drums new neo-classic pedal which seems like an awesome single pedal. I personally have Yamaha and Pearl Eliminator Red, and Tama Iron Cobra pedals.
No one ever mentions this, but this pedal has a flaw or two. I own this pedal and performance wise it's good, however, the base of the pedal is way too wide and that makes it impractical to anyone who finds themselves in situations where they have to play a drum kit with t handle tuning pegs, ie having to play at a multi band show on someone else's older kit. So far it can wedge in there but I definitely have had to turn the t handle to fit it in. Also, the bottom clamp is firmly set unlike say a DW which has a more forgiving clamp system so clamping it down on the hoop so it is sitting perfectly flat on the ground takes some fiddling around. Not the end of the world but every time I set it up I find it kind of irritating. Just some things to be aware of before you buy if you are looking at these.
I see you have the mic clips on the rim. Do you feel they choke the rim click?
I have the DD. It’s dope. I chose it over the Speed Cobra.
I got one in 2019. I now play in socks so I don't scratch the board. It's stunningly well made and so smooth. I had an old iron cobra before and this is miles better. I've gigged it regularly for all that time and it looks and feels brand new. Its a brilliant bit of kit and a worthwhile investment
I wish they did a matching hihat stand though
I have an iron cobra, it’s solid but not great
@@coreyroberts47 Kinda clunky.
@@farshimelt yeah
And they've just launched the matching hihat stand at Naam
If you need weights, use lead tape from the golf supply isle. Cheap and super flexible(literally).
You used to use direct drive correct? Why didn't you this time?
Hey Rob, another great gear suggestion - I want one! By the way, you mentioned your Yamaha hihat stand and I'm in the market for one - which stand have you had all these years?
Preference and personal opinions are fit as flying opinion and flying dragons and Yes you get what you pay for !This is a nice one for the money and isn't Rob fun!! Not to mention a killer player!
Since this was close to the topic of the kick drum (kinda), would you say that the kick drum head (if its dead) affects the rebound and in turn the kick pedal? It might be an obvious answer to some but it never hurts to ask right?
Of course, the tension of the head affects the rebound. Play doubles on a pillow, then play them on a practice pad. The difference is obvious.
i love the smell test! i thought i was the only one that smelt new gear!
My thoughts on putting weights on your beater: why not just use thick washers and a rubber band? Should achieve the same result
Until the rubber band breaks and the washers scatter across the floor.
@@farshimelt the washers would just slide down the beater shaft when the rubber band breaks
Your thoughts on single, double chain drive or direct drive?
Here's my unasked-for thought; there's no lag with a direct drive and no strap or chain to break on the gig.
I always get excited when I get a new piece of drum gear, or waiting for it to show up, new or used. My last purchase was just a $10 Drum head port hole cutter, and I still got excited and couldn't wait to use it! New pedals though, that deserves a celebration with some BBQ!
The FP9 made my right foot bionic. Hope there would be a HH pedal with same footboard though.
I also see apparently there is not velcro on the bottom base of the pedal ... to me is always been sort of a pain to install or move the pedal around once it gets its velcro paws into the rug ... I like that , no more Westling to move it around on installation ...
I hear you about the BBQ and new drum gear. There was nothing better than traveling to Sweetwater to pick up some new Paiste hats and Tama hi hat stand. They smell great also 😂
Ordering one as per your review
Why is Rob so cool? PAiSTe 602 medium ride 22 coming today. I have an Axis Wide board that I love.
Those Axis pedals are pretty sweet. Congrats on the 602. Killer ride
Rob .. why chain drive over direct ? And not even a mention that it comes direct drive .
Best pedal on the market. Period!
Hey Rob, big fan of your page and your knowledge and sharing style. Here’s the other foot, I don’t know to what extent you’re involved with the merch store but I’m having a difficult time getting a shirt I ordered as a bday gift. It appears they are made as they’re ordered. I have received emails about production delays, but i guess i was just surprised I wasn’t just buying a made shirt. Thanks for letting me vent, any help would be appreciated. Thanks Rob, or should I say Flamuel L. Jackson!
wow what an amazing pedal ...mind blown