You guys in Australia love to boost Amarok and Ranger... Yet it does not help the sales.. In South Africa same story and the Hilux is outselling everything els for many years.... With good reason.. Thanks guys, by the way, I am not a Toyota fan. 🙂
Thats what I noticed everywhere on youtube many reviewers trying so hard to praise ranger but in reality nobody buys ranger.. it lacked the secondhand value, the face is oudated, and between Ford n Toyota as a brand, who wouldn't pick Toyota?
Ranger outsells the Hilux in New Zealand, recently but historically Hilux wins. I love the look, the drive and the aftermarket on the ranger. But the Hilux will simply outlast the ranger and getting a lemon 🍋 ranger is more common than the Hilux
Just ordered our 4th Hilux, the reliability, goes where I want it to, and I like the 4WD auto. We have had a great hassle free run of Toyota vehicles, both our cars & Hilux’s.
I've had SR5's as work vehicles for 20 years. There relatively bullet proof, have broken things but never been left stranded. In ute form the rear is quite short and makes hauling bikes etc a pain, better with a tray back. They drive OK for what they are, still a bit agricultural and a 10 hour drive is about my limit and I want out. More capable off road than it looks, front wheel travel is limited and needs a rear locker to get serious. Tonnes of aftermarket accessories is handy. Good to see it has a bit more grunt, would still like a little more though. Pushing around in the desert forget the advertised 8.4 L/100km I use about 20 L/100km in sandy deserts and around 10 L/100km highway. As a company car it's fine, would I spend $65K of my own money on one? Hell no! There's better options in the 2yo near new market.
FH: Wouldn't buy a second hand modern diesel of ANY brand unless I knew it spent its life driving up and down highways at 90-110kph. So many of these are doing the school run!
In Latin America is a working and luxurious truck. Specially with the conditions of highways and people living in the country side. Amazing trucks ! Most of my family members have them
Great episode I am a Toyota man and was thinking of the new D=Max ... But I love the Toyota hilux. It’s a very hard discussion. I am 50,,,,50 . Thank you for your run through.
The car market reflects what people are willing to pay. These 'utes' sell, they are practical and fashionable. It's as simple as that. Whether they are worth the money value or not is irrelevant. Personally I can't see a Mercedes sedan with some clever electronics an a large digital dash worth 200 grand, and I certainly would not pay 130 grand for a Landcruiser Sahara and they sell lots of them, so each to their own.
I went with the SR5 this year after having the Ranger generation BT-50. Test drove the twins (Mazda/Isuzu) twice and bitterly disappointed. Wanted to like them but can’t see what the hype is about. Ride and drive was shit and the engine is laggy. The interior looks nice until you see it in person. Just looks like a suv knock-off. Feels cheap and nasty. Ranger is definitely the best but it’s russian roulette with quality. Hilux sells so well because it sits in some odd sweet spot. Not trying too hard anywhere but engine, reliability and drive all better than the others.
Not sure where you are getting the 59k price from Tom. You can't buy these under 65k Qld and 66k NSW according to Toyota website. Toyota added 13k AUD to all Hilux models with engine updates.
Toyota are going to sell on their longevity and reliability reputation. This is what most punters want and it seems that by and large what Toyota delivers. It does not have to be the best Ute on this basis. Would I buy one? Not at the asking prices.
You won't but clearly there are a lot of consumers that do it's always on top of sale chart the most sold vehicle along side corolla ,RAV4 also is all relevant when time comes to sell be in 5 or 10 y as they retain there resale value even when they are 20 yo with over 200000km they still command a premium also they are very easy to dispose of privately be it a corrolla rag 4 or the mighty Hilux as they are the most sort of in the used car domain no such thing as a cheap used hilux
I seriously don't get the love for these things. And I've owned a 2005 SC V6 4x4 and a 2010 DC Diesel 4x4. While they weren't unreliable, they weren't trouble free over 195 and 110k respectively. But reliability aside, it escapes me why you would seek to drive one of these, or any other DC ute given their dynamic short comings, if you really didn't have to.
@@sbGOM I prefer the looks of the Hilux inside and out over the rivals but that is subjective. All pickups are horrible compared to cars but practicality, offroad capbilities and reliabilty tend to be better on pickups rather than cars
Ranger 4x4 outsells the Hilux 4x4. Hilux hits the top sales numbers with the workmate sales. Ford won't mind too much as the 4x4 margins are much much better. The Ranger is becoming the Commodore SS /HSV of the 2020s with the amount of tricked up one's you see on the roads.
@@Bobtubeau the key thing there is that Toyota recalls these things - they (eventually) fix the problems. So many vehicles have endemic faults that go ignored by the manufacturer. Lots of recalls is a sign that the manufacturer actually cares about reliability, even if the original engineering design doesn’t always hit the mark.
We had an Amarok at work. It was ordinary. Needed a cup of coffee lodged in place to keep the high beams on. The first gear in manual was flakey, too easy to stall. I would never buy one. we had a ranger that was a lemon, it's electronics kept failing . I don't think the ride in Rangers is markedly better than the hi lux having driven both.
Hey Tom, for a giggles comparison take a 2020 SsangYong Musso ute for review. For the price they are better than people think. I borrowed one for a weekend and was pretty impressed with it. While I can't vouch for it's reliability the owner was really happy with it and said he won't hesitate to buy it again. He has a car hire biz and is a fast Audi guy so I tend to belive him.
They won't. They didn't even mention Mitsubishi even though it's the 3rd best seller out there in utes but the BT, DMax and Amarok were all mentioned. Who are the sponsors here I wonder ?
Hi Kevin. Firstly, here’s the link to our recent Triton review that you may have missed: th-cam.com/video/Klh0DqVygwE/w-d-xo.html. Secondly, the sponsor is Budget Direct, which we’re very clear about - we don’t run ads for or take money from any car manufacturer, because we are owned by a large insurer instead... thanks for stopping by
Thanks Tom .very informative review .on the DC UTE sr5 ..sounds like the ride is still a little stiff with a empty tub / or passengers .In the payload.nice lookibg Ute in That magic blue.cheers.
The Japanese diesel is well behind the Euro models. For example the X5 40D produces 700 Nm and 250Kw from 3.0 L engine let alone its NVH is more refined. The legendary Prado can sprint from 0 -100km/h within 17 seconds.... The electric car development is also behind other makers.
@@EastWood2004 probably still a prado actually but that's just me. Squeezing 250kw and 700nm out of a 3L diesel sounds expensive and highly strung to me
Um isn’t it the best selling Tom because it’s sales include 2WD & 4WD AND fleet sales? Separating into just 4WD I think Ford Ranger tops them? Feel free to correct me. The Ford Ranger was the pack leader for some time.
You’re right. But ultimately, Australians - be they private owners, small business owners or fleet managers - are signing on the dotted line for HiLuxes, and people are then driving them. Even though the Ranger is without doubt more popular among private and small business owners, especially in 4x4 dual cab configuration, the fact is it’s the HiLux that tops the overall sales chart, and that’s meaningful.
VW don't make work horses they make show ponies . The V6 engine seems like a really good idea mainly because V engines tend to be very torquey and pull so well . The down side is they are so expensive and over complicated . VW have had a few design failures and were caught lying regarding exhaust emissions . Toyota's inline 4 cylinder is perfectly normal and more than adequate for its purpose .
I really do not understand why the Hilux is the best seller because it definitely is not the best featured pick up and has the worst interior of its competitors. Is it a brand and loyalty thing or just people scared of change??? I would love to know if new buyers into the segment are buying Hilux...
@@iMitsubishiZA In my country it’s cheaper than the Ranger by quite a margin. This and a 0% finance deal, £2k deposit contribution from Toyota and a very good trade in price for my BMW X5 decided it for me. Also the dealer was fantastic and made it really easy to buy from them with no messing about..the salesman was very good compared to those from the other brands. I told him I wanted a new 2.8 and what my budget was, he asked me to send him a few pictures of my old car and within an hour he’d rang back with a great deal. I got a mountain top roller cover, 5 years free servicing, roll bars and paint protection all in the deal.
Easy question. Because in my view simply the best. I would not consider any of its competitors. I don't mess with a winning recipe and stuff like tech does not impress me. Longevity, robustness and good resale value is what is important to many Toyota buyers.
The interior looks like a Friday afternoon design. Toyota probably thinks people will take anything with a Toyota badge on it. As you say, Ranger and Amarok with nicer interiors.
If reviewing a Hilux, stop mentioning the got damn ford will ya.. I'm here to hear about the hilux and don't give a damn about anything else.. speak about the hilux period.. it's not that hard to do.
i have one, things wrong so far.. headlights dont turn off when you lock the vehicle if you have parked in the shade, stereo will not turn off, keeps turning back on, battery power supply is only long enough to fit European style low height battery, it will not reach a slightly taller battery, same goes with the battery clamp system, not a practical vehicle at all, what happens if you need a battery in the country and they dont stock the little euro batteries. auto drive mode is awful, gearbox only works acceptably in sport mode, built so f%^&*n cheap, the worst cheapest interior in its class, fake plastic stitching, cheap plastics inside and out your review is nothing more than a salesmans video working for toyota
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best selling car in South Africa since the beginning of Hilux life.
You guys in Australia love to boost Amarok and Ranger... Yet it does not help the sales.. In South Africa same story and the Hilux is outselling everything els for many years.... With good reason..
Thanks guys, by the way, I am not a Toyota fan. 🙂
Ja, because it is easy testing a new vehicle, but boere wants reliability and there it seems Toyota is still top.
Thats what I noticed everywhere on youtube many reviewers trying so hard to praise ranger but in reality nobody buys ranger.. it lacked the secondhand value, the face is oudated, and between Ford n Toyota as a brand, who wouldn't pick Toyota?
Ranger outsells the Hilux in New Zealand, recently but historically Hilux wins. I love the look, the drive and the aftermarket on the ranger. But the Hilux will simply outlast the ranger and getting a lemon 🍋 ranger is more common than the Hilux
@@Bodonism Aahahahhah doesn't sell..
@@ChurchInAshes doubtful story !
Just ordered our 4th Hilux, the reliability, goes where I want it to, and I like the 4WD auto. We have had a great hassle free run of Toyota vehicles, both our cars & Hilux’s.
I've had SR5's as work vehicles for 20 years. There relatively bullet proof, have broken things but never been left stranded. In ute form the rear is quite short and makes hauling bikes etc a pain, better with a tray back. They drive OK for what they are, still a bit agricultural and a 10 hour drive is about my limit and I want out. More capable off road than it looks, front wheel travel is limited and needs a rear locker to get serious. Tonnes of aftermarket accessories is handy. Good to see it has a bit more grunt, would still like a little more though. Pushing around in the desert forget the advertised 8.4 L/100km I use about 20 L/100km in sandy deserts and around 10 L/100km highway. As a company car it's fine, would I spend $65K of my own money on one? Hell no! There's better options in the 2yo near new market.
FH: Wouldn't buy a second hand modern diesel of ANY brand unless I knew it spent its life driving up and down highways at 90-110kph. So many of these are doing the school run!
@@sbGOM Well that's all they're really good for so no surprises there.
In Latin America is a working and luxurious truck. Specially with the conditions of highways and people living in the country side. Amazing trucks ! Most of my family members have them
It was a tough durable and reliable vehicle for sure but top gear's brute test boosted it's sales worldwide.
Great episode
I am a Toyota man and was thinking of the new D=Max ...
But I love the Toyota hilux. It’s a very hard discussion. I am 50,,,,50 .
Thank you for your run through.
VW: can you get 1050km off a full tank ?
Hilux: I'm still pulling in early 2000s fuel economy numbers
It sure looks better now. And the bigger engine is a huge plus.
Not a bigger engine, bigger turbo.
@@lennyleonard4193 and a better tune.
Truly unbreakable! But they’re breaking the bank though recently with all their cars! Another great review Tom!
But in the long run including everything, Toyota will be the cheapest
Manufacturers of these types of vehicles must just sit back and laugh - people are willing to pay $65k plus, for a ute!!!
ppl are dumb. Drop dead ugly, outside worst inside looks like cars from the early 90s...
At the end a Hilux will be much cheaper to drive and maintain and people keep their Toyota for much longer
The car market reflects what people are willing to pay. These 'utes' sell, they are practical and fashionable. It's as simple as that. Whether they are worth the money value or not is irrelevant. Personally I can't see a Mercedes sedan with some clever electronics an a large digital dash worth 200 grand, and I certainly would not pay 130 grand for a Landcruiser Sahara and they sell lots of them, so each to their own.
Can't afford Cruisers or Patrols anymore. HI LUX utes are a goof 4wd alternative.
I went with the SR5 this year after having the Ranger generation BT-50. Test drove the twins (Mazda/Isuzu) twice and bitterly disappointed. Wanted to like them but can’t see what the hype is about. Ride and drive was shit and the engine is laggy. The interior looks nice until you see it in person. Just looks like a suv knock-off. Feels cheap and nasty. Ranger is definitely the best but it’s russian roulette with quality. Hilux sells so well because it sits in some odd sweet spot. Not trying too hard anywhere but engine, reliability and drive all better than the others.
Not sure where you are getting the 59k price from Tom. You can't buy these under 65k Qld and 66k NSW according to Toyota website. Toyota added 13k AUD to all Hilux models with engine updates.
And people will keep on paying it, espeically while there are govt inscentives for business owners and tradies
The 59k is before on road costs. You’re right it goes upto 65-66k when onroad costs are bolted on
Just paid $58500 drive away for my Feb 2021 SR5 cab chassis- you gotta bargain!
Toyota are going to sell on their longevity and reliability reputation. This is what most punters want and it seems that by and large what Toyota delivers. It does not have to be the best Ute on this basis. Would I buy one? Not at the asking prices.
You won't but clearly there are a lot of consumers that do it's always on top of sale chart the most sold vehicle along side corolla ,RAV4 also is all relevant when time comes to sell be in 5 or 10 y as they retain there resale value even when they are 20 yo with over 200000km they still command a premium also they are very easy to dispose of privately be it a corrolla rag 4 or the mighty Hilux as they are the most sort of in the used car domain no such thing as a cheap used hilux
100%. I dont care for the ranger or amarok because I know the Hilux will last me 10 years longer
@@ilikelampshades6 That is why it sells... they are not perfect but are reliable and last a long time.
I seriously don't get the love for these things. And I've owned a 2005 SC V6 4x4 and a 2010 DC Diesel 4x4. While they weren't unreliable, they weren't trouble free over 195 and 110k respectively. But reliability aside, it escapes me why you would seek to drive one of these, or any other DC ute given their dynamic short comings, if you really didn't have to.
@@sbGOM I prefer the looks of the Hilux inside and out over the rivals but that is subjective. All pickups are horrible compared to cars but practicality, offroad capbilities and reliabilty tend to be better on pickups rather than cars
I enjoyed watching the Video Review. Perfect for Families as well as Contractors
Just bought another SR5, would'nt consider anything else !
Great review. Nice Seamaster.
Do the updated Land Cruiser Prado please! Thank you
Centre console is too wide causing footwell to be cramped. The footwell is so small the clutch pedal is too far to right and causes knee injury
Yes Im toyota hilux fans about performance is best for off road !
I wonder what the Hilux demographics are workmate,SR,SR5 4WD, RWD. I'd be surprised if mining or commercial and fleet buyer only got SR5.
Hmm only 4 yrs late on smart phone mirroring. Well fuckin done toyota, oh hows the dpf, still a problem toyota ??
Ranger 4x4 outsells the Hilux 4x4.
Hilux hits the top sales numbers with the workmate sales. Ford won't mind too much as the 4x4 margins are much much better.
The Ranger is becoming the Commodore SS /HSV of the 2020s with the amount of tricked up one's you see on the roads.
2018 features for a 60k price tag. Goes to show the toyota brand is worth ~20k alone when compared to up-and-comer utes.
Honestly that's for a good reason, no one can touch toyota reliability yet.
@@fizzyboy08 takarta airbag recall, fuel pump recall, faulty break recall, dpf issues, I'm sure there's more. Hardly a bastion of reliability.
@@Bobtubeau have you searched for other as well... will be much more
@@Bobtubeau the key thing there is that Toyota recalls these things - they (eventually) fix the problems. So many vehicles have endemic faults that go ignored by the manufacturer. Lots of recalls is a sign that the manufacturer actually cares about reliability, even if the original engineering design doesn’t always hit the mark.
Few weird shots with you in the interior Tom, handheld setup?
We had an Amarok at work. It was ordinary. Needed a cup of coffee lodged in place to keep the high beams on. The first gear in manual was flakey, too easy to stall. I would never buy one.
we had a ranger that was a lemon, it's electronics kept failing . I don't think the ride in Rangers is markedly better than the hi lux having driven both.
You are spot on I test drove the ranger and was very disappointed
Hilux is still king
For all the negatives compared to the Ford or others, people still keep buying the Hilux! Incredible! When you can clearly get better for your money.
the cabin is noisy !!! what the hell are you talking about. It's a frigging 4x4 ute . my 2003 hilux is noisy and i love it
so… it’s noisy, we agree
@@chasingcars no it's not noisy. So we don't agree
Really want to see a Ford Everest review, it will be great to compare new Everest and new Prado
As an American I know Ford is a junk just like China anything Made in China
@@321thach Oh, please dump all your electronic devices as they all have parts made in China.
@@LL2500 everything that Made in China are well known through out the world as a cheap junk
Hey Tom, for a giggles comparison take a 2020 SsangYong Musso ute for review. For the price they are better than people think.
I borrowed one for a weekend and was pretty impressed with it. While I can't vouch for it's reliability the owner was really happy with it and said he won't hesitate to buy it again. He has a car hire biz and is a fast Audi guy so I tend to belive him.
No hi vis?
Haha... no.
Do the triton
They won't. They didn't even mention Mitsubishi even though it's the 3rd best seller out there in utes but the BT, DMax and Amarok were all mentioned. Who are the sponsors here I wonder ?
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@@chasingcars Fair enough. Thanks for the prompt reply.
No trouble. Happy to take requests whenever I can. Have a good evening.
Nonsense!
Thanks Tom .very informative review .on the DC UTE sr5 ..sounds like the ride is still a little stiff with a empty tub / or passengers .In the payload.nice lookibg Ute in That magic blue.cheers.
The Japanese diesel is well behind the Euro models. For example the X5 40D produces 700 Nm and 250Kw from 3.0 L engine let alone its NVH is more refined. The legendary Prado can sprint from 0 -100km/h within 17 seconds....
The electric car development is also behind other makers.
I know which one I'd rather go outback in though
@@andrewford80 Definitely Prado.:) In town you know which car you want to drive?
@@EastWood2004 probably still a prado actually but that's just me. Squeezing 250kw and 700nm out of a 3L diesel sounds expensive and highly strung to me
@Henrich Muller Haha who knows. The reality is nobody would pay this price for this ute if it is even unreliable.
@@andrewford80 Horses for courses. If you live in outback the Prado is the one. I used to own 120 and 150 Prado before. These are just a commodity.
Um isn’t it the best selling Tom because it’s sales include 2WD & 4WD AND fleet sales? Separating into just 4WD I think Ford Ranger tops them? Feel free to correct me. The Ford Ranger was the pack leader for some time.
You’re right. But ultimately, Australians - be they private owners, small business owners or fleet managers - are signing on the dotted line for HiLuxes, and people are then driving them. Even though the Ranger is without doubt more popular among private and small business owners, especially in 4x4 dual cab configuration, the fact is it’s the HiLux that tops the overall sales chart, and that’s meaningful.
We have Rangers and Hiluxes at work. I prefer to use the Hilux.
It’s Ed Sheehan…
If I was buying a pick up, my mind always goes to the amarok, cuz of the v6 tdi, seems weird putting 4 cyl in big heavy working trucks
Amarok only has 4 airbags. which is madness in 2021. no rear passenger airbags kills it for a family wagon.
@@BlenderBends And trust me: With the Hilux you'll need all of them! #MuseTestFail
@@MrGoMario they fixed that years ago mate
VW don't make work horses they make show ponies . The V6 engine seems like a really good idea mainly because V engines tend to be very torquey and pull so well . The down side is they are so expensive and over complicated . VW have had a few design failures and were caught lying regarding exhaust emissions .
Toyota's inline 4 cylinder is perfectly normal and more than adequate for its purpose .
Aramaroks are lemons
We get it your sponsored my VW
No, we're owned by Budget Direct.
it sounds like you are really trying to like the new hilux compared to the last model... but you couldn't. 😂
I actually think it is the other way round.... I think he likes it but does not want to admit it.. 🤣🤣🤣😜
@@georgejacobsz81 well there is that also 😂
something of a curate's egg but the best seller none the less. I blame the huge dealer network.
According to V facts the best selling 4x4 dual cab is the Ranger
What’s the difference between this and the wildtrack
Wildtrak is more compliant and has more standard kit but Ford’s network isn’t quite as broad
@@chasingcars take a wildtrack over this?
@@simoncouch1523 Toyota will be better offroad and more reliable but the Ford will driver more like a car
I really do not understand why the Hilux is the best seller because it definitely is not the best featured pick up and has the worst interior of its competitors.
Is it a brand and loyalty thing or just people scared of change???
I would love to know if new buyers into the segment are buying Hilux...
Yes, I’ve just bought a new pickup for the first time in 10 years and went for the Hilux
@@mbal4052 did you even look at a Ranger or Isuzu.
Why the Hilux?
@@iMitsubishiZA In my country it’s cheaper than the Ranger by quite a margin. This and a 0% finance deal, £2k deposit contribution from Toyota and a very good trade in price for my BMW X5 decided it for me. Also the dealer was fantastic and made it really easy to buy from them with no messing about..the salesman was very good compared to those from the other brands. I told him I wanted a new 2.8 and what my budget was, he asked me to send him a few pictures of my old car and within an hour he’d rang back with a great deal. I got a mountain top roller cover, 5 years free servicing, roll bars and paint protection all in the deal.
Easy question. Because in my view simply the best. I would not consider any of its competitors. I don't mess with a winning recipe and stuff like tech does not impress me. Longevity, robustness and good resale value is what is important to many Toyota buyers.
The interior looks like a Friday afternoon design. Toyota probably thinks people will take anything with a Toyota badge on it. As you say, Ranger and Amarok with nicer interiors.
Does it pass the Muse test? No salesman talk please. A simple YES or NO will do. If YES please link to the video test. Thank you.
It’s got car play so you can play any band from your phone. Muse, oasis, the clash whatever.
Hail to the King baby, the king of mediocrity!
"Come get some - piston melt" - Duke Nukem
If reviewing a Hilux, stop mentioning the got damn ford will ya.. I'm here to hear about the hilux and don't give a damn about anything else.. speak about the hilux period.. it's not that hard to do.
60k? Think I'll buy the gwm cannon for 40k.
Exactly the same as the old model really. Toyota need to up their game when Isuzu and Mazda have really come a long way. The ranger smokes this
Sparky Sparky, are you green?
Toyota don't need to up their game, they are the number selling ute in Aus. Why try harder?
Ranger smokes alright when they blow up
Its 4x4
Why is it the best selling vehicle? Because they see the word Toyota and lose their brain.
Someone doesn't 4x4 and it showes
Overpriced, cheap plastics with outdated interior. Ford Ranger aal the way!!
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A mediocre vehicle, relying on the toyota name only !
i have one, things wrong so far.. headlights dont turn off when you lock the vehicle if you have parked in the shade, stereo will not turn off, keeps turning back on, battery power supply is only long enough to fit European style low height battery, it will not reach a slightly taller battery, same goes with the battery clamp system, not a practical vehicle at all, what happens if you need a battery in the country and they dont stock the little euro batteries.
auto drive mode is awful, gearbox only works acceptably in sport mode, built so f%^&*n cheap, the worst cheapest interior in its class, fake plastic stitching, cheap plastics inside and out
your review is nothing more than a salesmans video working for toyota