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Why is the Tesla community embracing "Dave Sparks"... a convicted diesel defeat device installer and friend of convicted securities fraudster Trevor Milton who he thinks didn't do anything wrong. Are we this desperate? 😑
FSD subscription should be $50 per month. $200 per month is too much. Not everyone wants to operate their own robo taxi fleet
Rofl that's 600 a year. Why would they charge that little when competition easily charges several thousands just for auto-pilot equivalent systems?
They should start a subscription outside the US - in Germany, there‘s only „buy“ as an Option.
Why not just give it away for free? Paying for stuff is annoying.
It will be licensed to other OEMs at a greater price, let them pay for it at a premium (like supercharger rates). $50 per month would have a much higher take rate with the Tesla fleet. $200 per month would be less than 1/4 of the fleet with many using it occasionally. FSD is a sunk cost, let the other OEMs pay for it at a larger %. 1 million Tesla cars at $50 a month is $50 million a month in SaaS revenue. In two years they would make over a billion a year in SaaS revenue just from the Tesla fleet. Now pick yourself off the floor and know that Elon will figure out a realistic price for the average Tesla owner. Remember , leases are under $400 a month right now.
there is a free version. Only the people willing to pay will pay for the extra features. For those interested it's the safest car on the planet without paying extra.
Tesla’s new battery LEAKED! Well, I really hope they fix that!
Get the duct tape
ha I got it
IMO 6k for FSD and 3K for enhanced autopilot is reasonable and something I would pull the trigger on. 12k for personal use FSD is nuts even if it’s flawless. Maybe for commercial use 12k makes sense but not for private usage.
They should license out the technology to other car markers to make more money.
I paid $10k for FSD 11/2021 and thought it was steep and it was for V11 build. I’ve been on V12.3 5 days and it’s like going from the original IPhone to a 15. Now I feel $10k well spent. I hope you get to experience V12.3 and would love to know your thoughts after.
Having just tried FSD I will say it’s worth about $2k to me. If I was a practicing alcoholic, $12k no problem! If you are old and near the end of your driving life, this is a game changer if they can make the car simple enough for the elderly to learn. Maybe have “grandma” mode to make the interface elderly proof. Tesla should lower the price to spur adoption and acceptance of FSD and robo taxis in the future.
@@jfly2249 Tesla will not lower the price anywhere close to $2k and thats what you pay to upgrade from cloth to leather seats in most autos. Far more than the elderly and alcoholics will benefit from FSD. It’s unfortunate you don’t see the value but to each their own.
My thought exactly, especially when FSD stays with the car and does not transfer to the next car. The promotional transfer doesn't count, it's just one rare instance that doesn't happen often.
Just got my free month email, tested it this morning and it was awesome!
what was the most impressive to you?
Idk what kind of market research Tesla is doing, but $12k for beta software isn’t even in the ballpark of what many, including myself, would consider. I wouldn’t buy it for half that cost tbh. It doesn’t feel like Tesla is optimizing their FSD revenue at this lofty price point.
Appreciate the good friday video, pleasantly surprised for the busy holiday weekend 😊
Wouldn't the FSD trial timing, with new Easter Eggs match well with the holiday?
I got to try it on my car
Impressions are mixed.
The slowing down on the highways are horrible
From 70 miles to 45 for no reason?
I was more stressed driving on fsd than doing it myself
You’re right. supervising FSD is like double the work. Standard Autopilot is helpful, especially TACC but FSD makes me feel like a High School Driver’s Ed instructor. Actually the students in MY car back in the day never caused the instructor to “intervene” but traffic was not as intense nor drivers as aggressive as today.
12.3.3? I don't think you have the latest version. None who do are saying this.
@@debi5292 note I wrote that 9 days ago. Thanks for asking what version as at that time it was 11. V12 operating now and it is MUCH improved. Still not ready for Level 5, but very cool now.
@Ryan Shaw I got an email from Tesla this morning granting me Full Self Driving (Supervised) until April 30, 2024. Seems like they’re REALLY trying to get people to try it.
What model and year you have?
@@mrericarrezola Model 3 2023
Yea I was told that new cars are a priority, but apparently older models are also compatible, but are low priority.
Mine is a 2024 MY, and the email just came through this morning and it expires 28 April.
How do some get 30 April. Got cut short by 2 days lol
So they don't let you pick the time window where you have it for free?
I’m always skeptical now when I click on your videos. Please have an honest caption this time, don’t let me down.
I recently test drove a model y. I’m grateful for your videos as they help me stay informed of all the changes. I’m aiming for a model y but won’t lie when I say I want that refresh and CAN wait for it. I’m in no rush and hopefully it will have the new lfp batteries and also the infrastructure has improved by the time I’m ready. Keep posting. I appreciate your content.
Don't wait, Tesla is always updating their cars. If you're waiting, you'll wait forever. Tesla is always coming up with new stuff
@@SamSam-qm1li but what about those ventilated seats and the ambient lighting? I know they do the software updates regular but the physical aesthetic? Older or current cars won’t have those things
@@nailedyou then wait. I had a similar situation. I was complaining to my friend I wanted the new automated trunk from Tesla. I would have to wait another year, not worth the wait. I bought it and I love it. Sure the automated trunk would be nice but not an extra year of wait time.
@@SamSam-qm1li I appreciate your point of view. I’m not in any rush to get my car so the waiting game is ok for me. But I do hear where you are coming from. There is no perfect time to execute this purchase. Just do it! Stay blessed and enjoy your ride. 🤗
@@nailedyou you do you, stay great my friend.
how does FSD do at legacy toll booths? Most toll booths by me have been replaced with overhead sensors of the EZPass. But I assume there are still toll booths out there.
FSD is way too expensive. 🇨🇦
Ryan, if you were in the market to bye a 2024 Tesla model 3 (Highland) would you buy it now or wait to see if any incentives come up?
They need to drop the price back under 7k or 99 per month and actually take accident responsibility and remove the beta label for the average consumer to take it seriously. They also should make it transferable to your next car. One month trial isn’t long enough… everyone should get a free year with purchase of a new car.
If 1 month isn’t enough, sign up for the subscription. Or buy it at current price. Many advanced highway assistance features from other cars are about 4-6k. So why shouldn’t FSD be more than that?
agreed on the price. I they made a huge mistake in their pricing methodology . They should have rolled out $12K - $15K FSD Licenses that are transferable to at lease 3 or 4 cars to raise capital for compute / AI/ML engineering staff. And now that they actually have something worth selling, they drop the price to $4K - $5K extra. At lease for me, I am a single guy, engineer, but I have a hard time justifying paying $12K for a feature that I don't actually real need - as I can drive myself just fine.
In terms of Liability - that is not going away anytime soon - even if it gets safer than humans. We sadly live in a world of lawyers.
@@Samuel-nf3pm because nobody would subscribe to it for 199 per month with only one month free trial. Nobody would pay more than 7k because they haven’t proven it’s any better than any of the competitors add ons
You are cheap, let's get that straight.
@@StaticFreq No... I can drive just fine... I don't NEED my car to drive me. I can easily do it myself. Meaning the value added verses autopilot is slim to none. It's really cool and I would love to get in a car and it takes me from point A to B but I don't need it. House payments/Investments/other necessities take priority over a cool toy.
I just saw some cyber trucks at the clermont service center. They where covered in dirt and seeing the drone footage it matches the dirt in Texas
I’m hoping the new CATL battery is the M3P battery. And hopefully in the Model 3 by the end of 2024 because that’s when I want to buy one lol
have any been sold to canada?
@RyanShawtech I just got my full self driving trial for 30 days on my M3! Don’t know how to feel about it. On the take off for every light it really pulls you back, I can see my tires wearing down quick. Also on normal streets feel like they need improvement, had very close calls to hitting the curb and autopilot would disengage on its own.
Ryan I agree with your FSD comments! I think FSD 12.3.1 I just got today is very human feeling, but feels like an 80 year old human!!! At least they seem sober! 😂🤪😎
I saw a black-wrapped Cyberteuck the other day, looked pretty cool.
It’s interesting that Tesla chose to force their drivers to park safely at charging stations and other manufacturers chose to let their drivers park in the normal unsafe American lazy way. Which is where the most dangerous part of parking is done with vehicles and pedestrians crossing behind your vehicle. I worked for the largest fleet in America they made us take a safety course on parking and it’s not up for debate. Pulling into a parking spot is more dangerous than reversing into it because when you pull out you can more easily see the pedestrians and vehicles going past you.
The crazy thing is, there are idiots who will argue passionately that backing into parking spaces is wrong...🤣
I have two vehicles that have NO problem backing out of a parking spot. They have cameras and USS with rear cross traffic alert. A feature that the supposed advanced tech Tesla does not have. Have you seen the videos of the new improved Tesla auto park taking forever to back into a spot? While your car is angling for a spot, the driver behind you just took it.....🤣
@@samwarren1429 I've been backing my HVAC service vans into spots for over 30 years.
My current van has an 84" wide KUV service body on it, and I've no problem lining it up between 2 parked cars, dead center of the spot, with no rear view or parking aids, other than the side mirrors.
To snipe my spot they would have to drive through the back of my van, or other parking spots, so good luck with that.
My personal car has the cross traffic sensors and backup camera too, I still find it safer and more convenient to back into spots.
As for the Tesla auto park, I don't care.
A friend of mine has a Ford with auto park, it is pretty damn slow at it too!
If someone needs an auto park feature to park their car, they shouldn't have a drivers license.
Great content as always Ryan😁2017 MCU2 HW3 & 2021 refreshed Model S with cabin camera here, both vehicles have V11.1 (2024.8.4) and neither one has received an update to V12. Elon said that all vehicles would have the update "This Week" , but that week ended yesterday....Even Tesla service tell me they have no idea when or if it will happen for me😔 Videos of it look cool🙄
I’m a little salty my upcoming Highland M3 won’t have this “new battery” but oh well, still gonna be a fantastic car :)
Ryan, Nissan said "with 16 being electrified", NOT 16 ELECTRIC as you said. There is a difference.
It's more about what the free FSD trial will do for Tesla's data collection rates to propel the fine tuning of FSD forward. Win for Tesla. The sooner Tesla get real FSD ( probably within the next decade ) the more valuable their vehicles will become to customers. This ultimately benefits Tesla and the customer will still have to pay for a more refined FSD eventually.
Nissan is launching 16 “electrified” models. Aka, hybrids, not BEV’s.
Part of the appeal of a Tesla is simplicity in models. Just a few models, with limited options for each. Legacy automakers are slow to adapt and Nissan releasing so many trims and models isn't forward thinking. Too many versions of an Ariya or a Ford Mach-E.
Has anyone gotten the free trial as yet ? And if so how ? 🙏
I haven’t gotten the free month FSD trial yet, has anyone gotten it?
Slow in some areas and need improvement in others is a very vague statement about FSD. Having used 12.3 myself I know what you mean but most people won’t.
We need a compact version of the Cybertruck very soon
a cybertruck the size of the ford Maverick would be interesting
Does anyone really believe the "$25,000 car" is actually going to be $25k? I sure dont.
No, and it's to much for poor people and won't have range or power to excite current owners.
Let's just hope it doesn't look like that truck.
Only after incentives and gas cost savings calculated in… lol
The insurance of the “cheap” car is going to be VERY high.
Why not?
@@TM-jv1fb be prepared to be surprised
So I'm paying for FSD monthly, will they charge me or are they smart enough to give me a free month and continue charging after that? Anyone have a clue?
I never believe it would work, but now I’m a believer in FSD. Just used for the first time and it was mind blowing.
I would like to see Tesla be less dependent on third party battery suppliers. Less dependence equates to more more control and better quality control/assurance.
Tell that to Fremont, they must have missed the memo!
@@Harrythehun Why only Fremont? Why not the entire company?
Do a show on electric vans that are or will soon be available to the public.
Nice !
Tesla’s new battery was leaked or announced? You can’t have both at the same time.
Been enjoying the FSD trial honestly. It's impressive. I'd probably pay $2k for it max though. $12k is INSANE.
Ryan, Tesla hasn’t delivered ANY 2024 model 3 white interiors. What was a Jan/Feb estimated delivery window as of ordered on Jan 10 is now April/May, and some people are getting pushed back to May/June. It’d be awesome if you could dig into the issues surrounding white interiors.
Tesla is selling Superchargers to other charge equipment suppliers partly because of Tesla's legendary reliability and up time. But those factors depend on the fact that data from every Supercharger is constantly sent to Tesla and either OTA updates are sent or a service tech is dispatched to repair/replace hardware. My question is whether rebranded Superchargers will get the same quality service from the buyers or whether Tesla will be paid to do the maintenance so the Tesla charging image will not suffer degradation.
Tesla may be recognizing that if deliveries are already likely to be lower due to external factors such as market conditions, supply chain issues, or seasonal fluctuations, then the company has a window of opportunity to focus on other priorities or initiatives (like FSD) that might be more difficult to implement during periods of high demand and rapid growth.
I received an email from Tesla early this morning that my 1-month complimentary trial of FSD starts today. I am looking forward to trying it out on my 2023 Model Y LR. As for cost, $12K purchase/$199 monthly subscription is bonkers for personal/convenience type of use. IMO, that price might (?) work for commercial use, but will be a blocker for widespread purchase. Let's see how this plays out for Tesla.
Giving FSD out if the owner is on Tesla insurance would be a way to get extra money and more people used to FSD...
...or rather.. getting used to it.
Hopefully only the tires.
So just WHAT Week is free trial FSD?
That week announced
Still waiting for the free month.
Same
It’s out right now try installing the newest update if you got one!
@@zmarko got mine last night.
@@erst9345 just got it last night!
Still waiting for mine!
I’ve yet to see this free trial June 2023 M3
My gripe with FSD isn't necessarily the cost of it. It's the fact that, outside of a promotion Tesla is running for that quarter to transfer it, it stays with the car.
So if you want to buy a new Tesla and have FSD on your old one, or you get into an accident that totals it and you buy another one, it may give you some pause to have to buy FSD again, especially if the cost is higher than when you paid for it.
If Tesla wants people to shell out $12k for it, it needs to stay with the customer's account, or at least offer a free/reduced price transfer if you're trading in a Tesla for a newer one.
I bought FSD on my Model Y for $7k, and while I mostly enjoy it, I would be hesitant to pay $12k for it if I had to get a new Tesla now.
FSD is not ready yet imho
Nissan's E-Power system, similar to BMW i3 Rex and the Ramcharger, seems to be the perfect solution for most people. It's a better way to build a plug-in hybrid. Hopefully Nissan brings it here soon.
Let's go to first principles. If the fundamental purpose of FSD is to produce cars that are safer than the average driver (as opposed to just enabling robo-taxis) then the only ethical course of action is to make it standard equipment, included in the base price, in every vehicle that Tesla sells. OTOH, at $12k it is just party tricks I have no need or desire for. Basic autopilot is really all I want or need.
i’m looking forward to off-roadimg my cyber truck, and the fantastic options that will be available: skid plates, rock, sliders, bumpers, spare tire kit, fenders, wheel, spacers, etc. however, we won’t be able to do much until Tesla releases their locker package
I’ll never be paying for a self driving capability. That is something I can happily do myself.
Ford and others backing away from FSD for awhile as happy with level 2-3. They stated no business model for FSD at this time especially at present high costs of admission.
They could just license from Tesla when Tesla figures it out.
Im glad I didn’t pay for FSD. I’ve always said it was a novelty, and now that my M3P has it for a month, I can confirm it is a novelty, albeit a really impressive novelty. But it definitely feels similar to when I was training my 16 year old to drive. After 2 days I’m over it. It screws up way too often and I don’t need a driver for me. Now it confirms I would most definitely pay less to not even have the hardware for it.
Got my free trial. Slow down will snap your neck. Right turns end up on shoulder. Lane shift cut off other driver. That’s just the first 7 days.
The way I understand it in the past the battery tech was American. USA was wanting to get cheap labor so they shipped the equipment and tech to China for the cheap labor. Now magically China is licensing the tech back to USA. Why? How did we let this happen?
Stolen Western technologies and reverse engineering, albeit, at a lower costs.
As with anything Tesla, I'll believe it when I see it. However, it will be very interesting to see if Tesla's gamble on putting the Cyber Truck as a focus pays off. The 1st quarter of 2024 will be one indicator.
WRAPS - T one wrap they are not offering on the Tesla Cybertruck page is the Image of the F-150 that was seen in one of your earlier videos. I would LOVE that wrap! It would confuse those EV haters!
There are three things that worry me about Tesla. 1. Other brands using superchargers. 2. Buying experience could be ruined by dealership sales tactics sneaking in. 3. Master plan goal of getting other automakers to make EV as in "oops, it's working!". It's not any one thing but the combination of these three and the increasing quality of non Tesla EVs is cause for concern.
There maybe some blips in the charging for Tesla owners but in the end it will make for a more robust charging infrastructure. It will make profitable to put chargers in areas where Tesla owners alone are not enough to justify them. In Tesla dense areas Tesla will build more chargers.
Watching this video while driving home on my free FSD
This ia just a hasty move to please stock holders. I think this push to send out fsd is going to backfire. Hope im wrong
Probably shouldn't get too excited about qualifying for the EV tax credits. There's a possibility they'll go away entirely once the new administration and congress is sworn in.
New FSD is definitely but better buy my commute involves a long stretch of 2/3 lane wide unrestricted highway with a 55 speed limit… FSD won’t go faster than 52mph which doesn’t keep up with Jersey traffic.
You have to step on the accelerate yourself (which kinda defeats the purpose) to go faster. For highway EAP is fine.
I’ve had FSD beta since 6/2022. All previous builds have definitely made me regret paying $10k for it. I got V12.3 5 days ago and now I feel it’s the BEST $10k I ever spent. To understand the difference V11 is like the first IPhone and V12.3 is like the current IPhone15. I completely agree that EVERYONE should experience it because once you have it’s a must have.
Everyone talking about how Teslas FSD wide trial is purely about sales incentive...i disagree, i think thats a smaller reason for the promotion....if you connect the dots, they just recently added 20k GPUs to compute (making them less compute constrained as they said they were before) and V12 is the first version with end to end neural nets with promising results...i think the bigger reason for the trial and incentive is they need more training data for improvement, they want more edge cases and rare experiences now that they are less compute constrained.
The "battery tech" is just Lithium-Iron-Phosphate. I've been running off-grid with LiFePO batteries for years. It's not the best power/weight, but I guess charging rate is more important than range for lots of users. Doesn't surprise me, limiting charging to 80% is a huge hit to range for Li-Cobalt cells.
I no longer believe anything that Musk says. My Ms Raven still says “FSD coming” four years after I gave Tesla the $8500 to fund its development and I can’t see any sign even of beta here in Australia.
Being familiar with aircraft automatics I did think that Tesla was hugely underestimating the difficulty of autonomous driving in the real world but the constant “nearly there” became “we didn’t realise how difficult it would be”. Seriously??
Bought MYLR on Feb 22. Got 3 mo FSD as referral perk but it is V11. Have worked with it a lot and conclude it’s not good in even moderately complex situations. Wonder if I will get a V12 update before May 22. Anyone else in a similar situation?
Your MYLR gets only 310 miles on a full charge beside getting that 2024 model year badge.
I also bought mine in Feb with 3 months free and I’m on v12. You have to opt in for beta.
@@tommydong8070 nothing in the battery has changed. The EPA estimating method is different.
@@whatdoesntjust got “the email” half an hour ago. Installing V12, AutoPark and other updates as I type this.
@@Diap842IV enjoy it’s soo much better than 11, not $200month better, but better 😂
Should make it available by the day 20$ or even by the hour 4$
No subscriptions in Denmark... Only the purchase 🤨
After the last few days of it on my new MY, I can’t fathom wasting the money on it. Making left handed lane changes 1,000 feet from a right hand turn, stopping in the middle of the road and losing its mind over speed bumps. It’s years away from completion.
When the ADS start , I LEAVE STOP IT ! ?
My Model Y is awesome without FSD and I don’t need to spend the extra dough. I do understand other people’s interest but could never reconcile with the $12k price
Good news that Tesla supercharger hardware is being sold to 3rd parties. But that doesn’t guarantee that the 3rd party networks will be equally reliable: service and maintenance are also important.
The self driving option cost of $ 12,000 helps TESLA defend itself in court from the accidents that occur when in self driving mode.
FSD 12.3 is not “smooth” at least for nubbies to Tesla EVs and especially to FSD.
This month of free FSD could really backfire on Tesla with a 12K price tag that includes all its not ready for prime time characteristics.
meanwhile they still won't update my car from v11
"Battery Leaked!"
Sounds like they bought Duracells.
Legislative hurtles are still the biggest issue even if FSD was level 5. Legislation must decide who would be liable if a death in or around the car. WHO has priority to live car passengers or pedestrians? Even if FSD could save 50% of lives, 20,000, it would be worth it. Planes still have 2 pilots and autopilot but your dealing with airspace and super high speeds with less error
Why do they need another "new" battery.
Both our Teslas got it last night. Haven’t tried it yet but I can promise you, I’ll never considering buying it as a $12,000 “option”. I might consider it for $1,200 but then again I’m one of those weirdos that actually likes to drive/ride so probably not.
A subscription model is a terrible idea . You have no ownership of what is arguably a big part/ capability of your car .
Anyone who uses FSD shouldn't own a car anyway..
@@ohger1make that “anyone who NEEDS” it. Otherwise it’s a fun toy, but also dangerous at times.
@@Diap842IV I get your comment, but to be honest, the FSD is probably better than a lot of people can actually drive (which is sad). And while FSD might be an upgrade for the truly incompetent, they should get those drivers off the road. For good drivers, FSD is a downgrade. I refused to use Autopilot on my Tesla S - there are things that you can see well before any sensors can and react before an incident even exists. The thought of millions of drivers watching their phones and not the road is scary.
battery tech is continuing to come down in price. There are much more battery advancements coming in the pipeline. The company that has a history of disrupting itself is the one to count on for utilizing the most cost effective batteries as soon as they become available. There is nothing to worry about.
As I understand it. Patents on LFP have expired, it surprises me that Tesla and others need to licence anything. Especially tesla why can they not just go out on their own. I know there's a learning curve but if anyone can tesla can 😮
Just because a car can charge quickly doesn't mean it's people will be good with low range. Charging more frequently means paying more to drive it and at that means it could get as expensive as driving an ICE vehicle, this is not what the EV industry needs. Yes, at some point down the road the cost to charge an EV will be the same as an ICE vehicle pays for gas, but we don't need that happening this soon. The EV industry needs to focus on more range with reduced vehicle prices. That alone will get dire hard ICE owners into EV's.
Fsd for $12k is a waste. I can very easily drive my car and would invest that money instead. If it was maybe $1k I would maybe go with it but at $12k it costs more than my current car. They should give it for free to teslaa owners as an added bonus to buy the car in my opinion.
If you listen to what Tesla has been saying all along, you would not have assumed they would use the 4680 battery for their next generation $25k EV. At battery day Tesla stated that the 4680 battery would be used for their higher end EV with longer range requirements. The LFP would be used in the lower-end of most models (i.e. the low end Model 3, Model Y, and perhaps the low end CybrTrk). The next generation EV will be a mass market EV - the smallest and cheapest EV that Tesla has ever produced. Why would they ever put a premium battery like the 4680 battery in this type of vehicle? Its not logical, economical, nor intelligent.
will not use self driving on any vehicle until it's proven to be SAFER than human driving (particularly my own driving). I only see a need for this on long highway trips where road fatigue can set in, particularly at night, but it needs to be level 5 for that. So sometime in the future. Also I would love to take a cross-country trip by simply sitting in the back of the vehicle doing whatever and let the vehicle get me there. Long way off for that functionality though.
Am I the only one that remembers Tesla is not planning to sell their new $25k car in the US? Just because it’s going to get made here until Mexico is done doesn’t mean they’re going to sell it here.
(Make that Am instead of As)
No your not. But you maybe the only one who believes it. The market has changed a lot since Tesla said that. Tesla needs to sell more cars. I don't see turning down the US market with everyone and his dog is trying to introduce similar priced cars.. Just make more of them. Make them in German and China too. If they have the battery cells to make it happen. We may see these with BYD cells in Germany. CATL in China.
pour quand ? car si c'est comme les superbes cellules 4680 !!!!!!
What makes you see this as "Tesla betting big on FSD"? Giving it away free for a month costs them literally nothing. They are betting nothing on FSD.
If a person does not want their vehicle driving for them they should take a bus or a taxi.
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The car can never be self driving as the rear detection systems are inferior.
Currently the new v12 is awful.
Who came up with this new idea you can't control the speed and its okay to pass a speed limit sign and speed on with you not having an option to lower the speed.
My robot has a terrible idea of what I would drive for speed in areas.
Anyone waiting for their new Model 3?
Tesla has many things that other vehicle companies do not have. They have disintermediation from the car dealers, car salesman and labor union leaders and they have no stranded assets that were invested in combustion vehicles at the wrong moment. Most of all they have superior engineering. Sandy Monroe has taken Tesla's apart and you listen to him. He is the authority about the engineering
Got my free FSD trial this morning. Lol at the fools who paid $12k - $15k. It's does a cool thing every now and then, but it's mostly terrible. Absolutely wears the driver out trying to use this. Thanks for the free trial Elon.