@@BGUKKY You do realize Elden Ring sold 15 million on Steam/PC alone out of the 25 million total right? If Sony really is this stupid to lock a game like that behind their console they will not only lose out on massive sales, but also a lot of goodwill FromSoftware has on PC.
Did i say it was exclusive to the playstation platform? Of course i realise the game sold over 25m copies. If the acquisition goes through the game will end up being a PlayStation console exclusive, and will also be ported to the PC, dont know if it will day and date on PC or released at a later date onto PC. Also, if it comes to PC, you'll need a PSN account before you can play it, just like you need a steam account, an xbox account, Rockstar/Take Two account, an EA account, Ubisoft account to play their games etc etc etc
Those that supported the Microsoft acquisition of Activision will now be all against it, and those that were against the Microsoft Activision purchase will now be for it.
Sony would definitely be the dominant company providing Anime series, just to note Kadokawa is the parent company, they own FromSoftware. There may be some issues/detail to sort out with FromSoftware, becuase Tencent and Bandai Namco are also involved with the development of some games/IP, but i'm sure Sony will work this out as the majority shareholder and the others are minority stakeholders.
Interested to see how this plays out - will they keep Elden Ring 2 exclusive to PS5, or will it go multiplat. Part of me thinks they will leave it for FromSoftware to decide on what they want to do. Or have some kind of time PS5/Pro exclusivity before going multiplat.
@@BGUKKY elden ring sold 25million, 70%( 41% on ps 4 and 5 and 29% on xbox)of which was on console was on console which is 18million if iw as sony id just make it console exclusive all fromsoft games and freeze pc out which only sold 29% of the game(or require them to make psn accounts this is more like it if sony plans to have a pc first party store launcher(not steam)) while by the time the games come out xbox will be gone and fully 3rd party, you can prob prob take at least 20%if not all xbox gamers who bought ER would be on ps5 by then, and you could make some pc uers buy playstion prob 18% of that 29% but maybe all 29%. this if you ask me is more about anime than fromsoft, its just a win win to sony (who said they are tring to intermengale there gameing ip to movies and show ect) i could see sony losing 5 to 6 million in sales to make the souls games exculisve to playstion and get more pc users in there ecosystem even if its only 5% of them 29% pc users would give sony more money over the long term than just selling it on pc. but as a crunchroll subscriber im glad they bought this.........im 100% ok with anime being consolidated in one place there are too many sub places right now.
Too many subscription services are just to expensive to sign up to all these places so that's a good thing if you are getting it in one place. I can see the games going exclusive certainly to PlayStation for a period of time and then releasing on PC. And if you want to play on PC you must have a PSN account, which once Sony has their PC PlayStation launcher tied into their handheld device and the PS6, it will start to come together. Similar to how Xbox utilised gamepass on console and PC. But if this happens, i think it will be console exclusive, with a PC version also available after a period of time.
Bro, lots of detail there about Kadokawa's IP and studios, great update think it will happen as its main news outlets also reporting on this. Also looking forward to playing Dynasty Warriors Demo on Friday.
I really didn’t think they would be out here doing this but when you think about it it makes a lot of sense given the IP, single player nature of games FromSoftware owns, the relationship of PS gamers and Bloodborne, the Anime, Manga and Publishing/media that Kadokawa owns, it makes sense for Sony on so many levels but the uproar will be incredible
i hate consolidation. but, if nobody stops Xbox from sucking up all the world's sh*ttiest publishers, then i'm fine watching PlayStation extend their reach over the best ones
Good take, like i say in the video, i dont like consolidation, but if Sony doesnt do it, Microsoft, Embracer, Tencent or someone else will step in. Its the best of a bad situation, at least if it is Sony, more often than not they will ensure the games/quality and execution are of a high standard.
Reuters don’t mess around. This isn’t a fanboy podcast reporting on it also. Reuters reported about the talks of Sony and Crunchyroll about a month before Sony formally announced the buyout in late 2020. So these guys are legit. Kadokawa’s stock also shot up and also when reps from both Sony and Kadokawa were asked to comment, they declined. If it was rumors, they’d dispel it. So then declining to comment also proved it’s true
Yeah that's very true, as i mentioned in the video, we have one of the largest news media agencies in the world reporting on a big business deal, they can't mess up reporting on speculation as it impacts market/share prices, they would also lose credibility if the story is too far off the mark. Sony were also recently linked to an acquisition of Paramount, so we know they are shopping around for a larger slice of the tv/music/movies business, this makes sense with Kadokawa given the massive presence with anime and manga content. The addition of gaming IP is also a valuable part of the business and adds significant depth to Sony's first party studio line up especially when you factor in games like Elden Ring, Sekiro, Armored Core, Dark Souls.
I think this acquisition makesa lot of sense and im not even the biggest FromSoftware fan. They are very talented and already have a long and good relationship with Sony. It would drive big console sales if they go 1st party PS and let Sony control the anime side of Kadokawa. It makes more sense, imo, than MS acquisitions.
Yeah I mentioned this on another comment, given Kadokawa’s IP form their games, to media and publishing, to their Anime and Manga it really suits Sony, they would be a really good fit to Sony’s business. The FromSoftware IP is also highly acclaimed and has lots of fans who enjoy those types of ‘souslike’ games.
@@BGUKKY Exactly! There's so much that just makes too much sense, not to mention Sony could lend them their tech like maybe using the Decima Engine for some games, and working closely with Xdev to make more optimized games, since that has always been a huge problem for FromSoftware and working on less platforms like strictly PS and PC would even further allow for better optimization. This one and Capcom were always the 2 I thought Sony would go after when the consolidation stuff started, just cause those 2 had the biggest relationships with Sony and when it comes to single player studio acquisitions that's always how Sony operated.
Yeah i see that happening along with Square Enix over time, there relationship with Sony is very strong and despite those companies making games across all platforms, at some point Sony will make their move. And FromSoftware getting all that tech support available across 1st party studios will greatly advance the quality of their games (not saying they were bad), add to that the support the other IP will also get whilst under Sony from their movies, music and Anime it just makes sense.
If this goes through and they don’t immediately work on Bloodborne I’m going to finally riot. Good news of the day is that there is reportedly a Dark Souls 3 remaster in the works. I cannot believe this may come before 60 fps Bloodborne. But I’ll take what I can get. Lol.
If this goes through I would imagine a Bloodborne remaster is what Sony will probably do first, given their track record of remakes and remasters so I think they will start there, enhanced for the pro followed by a Dark Souls remaster or remake leading to BloodBorne 2 in the future
This is great news. Personally, I hope that the deal goes through if microsoft can spend billions on xenomex and activision, it's only fair sony does what it needs to too boost their brand. And also, if they make all Fromsoft games Exclusive that will just increase game sales and console sales witch will allow the devs can get paid more, which is a win❤
@@BGUKKY Microsoft is in a lot of trouble they can't say anything because they spent more than Sony is going to spend and lied about increasing Game Pass. Also they're in the process of putting their games over to Sony so they have to be on good terms with Sony
I don’t think Microsoft could do anything, the only angle they have is that Elden Ring is a multi plat and that game shouldn’t be allowed to be made exclusive by Sony or something like that. In all honesty Xbox is finished as a console platform, I just see Xbox as the same as Embracer or Tencent, 3rd party publisher.
Yes this is true, but when competitors like Microsoft are acquiring entire publishers, and companies like Tencent and Embracer Group are picking up studios, either you (Sony) join the party or get left behind. In this instance Sony has decided to play, and the move makes good sense from their perspective given the IP and properties owned by the Kadokawa group.
@ehenningsen then you are virtue signaling like a sjw with no real intentions. It's best for sony to aquire.. Microsoft and tencent will destroy the games and anime. Atleast sony has a rather large stake in the games and a anime
Microsoft did exactly the same thing during the 360 era - keeping exclusive "paid for" content on Xbox, have you forgot that? You're acting as though Sony is the only company in the world doing it. All companies are scummy in one form or another, stop pretending Microsoft is your friend. At least with Sony, 30 years of experience delivery high quality games, i can bank on them continuing to deliver good games for years to come, can you say that about Microsoft?
It's been confirmed today that Sony is indeed seeking to acquire Kadokawa - therefore owning everything including being the major shareholder of FromSoftware. It gets complicated because Tencent owns a share and so does Bandai Namco, if not of the studio then of some of the IP - like Dark Souls i think Bandai Namco owns some of it, its complicated although if this deal does go through as the majority shareholder (over 85%) Sony practically will run it how they want.
Sony also owns Horizon God of War and multiple other IPs, you pick one IP and make it sound negative. The devs of Bloodborne was developed by FromSoftware - hence if Sony acquire them as part of the Kadokawa acquisition then it makes perfect sense for more bloodborne and future Soulslike games. Future from software games will continue to be made, like I said, Sony owns multiple IPs and it’s in their interest to make more games
LOL - i was shocked, well, maybe just surprised a little, although given the rich anime and manga IP/content it makes sense, the added value of FromSoftware with their games and IP is also massive, they would fit into Sony's line up of 1st party studios perfectly.
I really hope so - i would love to get Bloodborne 4K60FPS with ray tracing followed by a Bloodborne 2 in a few years time from FromSoftware, with Dark Souls and a new Sekiro set of games too
I don't like this Sony and Microsoft are grabbing too many small companies and they shut them down. Anybody remember what happened to Firewalk Studios and Tango Gameworks? Bungie is struggling as well. How do we know it won't happen to From Software?
It's not just Sony and Microsoft, it's also Embracer, Take Two, Tencent, EA, NetEase Games, and others acquiring studios. No one knows what's going to happen in the future, studios come and go all the time. It's no secret that Bungie was struggling before the Sony acquisition and would have closed if they were not acquired by Sony or another large company. How Firewalk studios got so far in development with Concord is beyond comprehension. The moment Sony took over that studio they should have paused development to re-evaluate that game, that studio closing is not all down to Sony, its also on Firewalk, there is no way that game should have continued development. Tango Gameworks should never have been closed down, HiFi Rush was pretty decent and Tokyo Ghostwire i thought was also a decent game. The problem is if one company doesnt buy these smaller studios, then another company will. From what i have seen over the past 30 years, studios come and go, developers leave and set up new studios during times of consolidation. If a company were to buy a studio then i'd rather that be Sony buying them than Microsoft, Tencent or Embracer, at least Sony has strong history and pedigree with their first party studios delivery high quality games. This of course doesnt guarantee anything, but it is what it is. Like i say, if Sony dont acquire them, someone else will.
Really interesting timing too, if this goes through the amount of quality Soulslike games Sony will own will be amazing
Yeah, can you imagine the next Elden Ring 2 made specifically for the PS5 Pro?
@@BGUKKY You do realize Elden Ring sold 15 million on Steam/PC alone out of the 25 million total right? If Sony really is this stupid to lock a game like that behind their console they will not only lose out on massive sales, but also a lot of goodwill FromSoftware has on PC.
Did i say it was exclusive to the playstation platform? Of course i realise the game sold over 25m copies. If the acquisition goes through the game will end up being a PlayStation console exclusive, and will also be ported to the PC, dont know if it will day and date on PC or released at a later date onto PC. Also, if it comes to PC, you'll need a PSN account before you can play it, just like you need a steam account, an xbox account, Rockstar/Take Two account, an EA account, Ubisoft account to play their games etc etc etc
Those that supported the Microsoft acquisition of Activision will now be all against it, and those that were against the Microsoft Activision purchase will now be for it.
Lol yeah, great comment
This buy would benefit Crunchyroll with an enormous exclusives of anime series. Since Sony owns Crunchyroll and FromSoftware includes Kadokawa
Sony would definitely be the dominant company providing Anime series, just to note Kadokawa is the parent company, they own FromSoftware. There may be some issues/detail to sort out with FromSoftware, becuase Tencent and Bandai Namco are also involved with the development of some games/IP, but i'm sure Sony will work this out as the majority shareholder and the others are minority stakeholders.
Xbox is dead already just stop 😂
No way coming back from this one.
Competition is very important. If this rumor is true, hopefully Sony keeps it exclusive to Playstation.
Interested to see how this plays out - will they keep Elden Ring 2 exclusive to PS5, or will it go multiplat. Part of me thinks they will leave it for FromSoftware to decide on what they want to do. Or have some kind of time PS5/Pro exclusivity before going multiplat.
@@BGUKKY elden ring sold 25million, 70%( 41% on ps 4 and 5 and 29% on xbox)of which was on console was on console which is 18million
if iw as sony id just make it console exclusive all fromsoft games and freeze pc out which only sold 29% of the game(or require them to make psn accounts this is more like it if sony plans to have a pc first party store launcher(not steam))
while by the time the games come out xbox will be gone and fully 3rd party, you can prob prob take at least 20%if not all xbox gamers who bought ER would be on ps5 by then, and you could make some pc uers buy playstion prob 18% of that 29% but maybe all 29%.
this if you ask me is more about anime than fromsoft, its just a win win to sony (who said they are tring to intermengale there gameing ip to movies and show ect)
i could see sony losing 5 to 6 million in sales to make the souls games exculisve to playstion and get more pc users in there ecosystem even if its only 5% of them 29% pc users would give sony more money over the long term than just selling it on pc.
but as a crunchroll subscriber im glad they bought this.........im 100% ok with anime being consolidated in one place there are too many sub places right now.
Too many subscription services are just to expensive to sign up to all these places so that's a good thing if you are getting it in one place. I can see the games going exclusive certainly to PlayStation for a period of time and then releasing on PC. And if you want to play on PC you must have a PSN account, which once Sony has their PC PlayStation launcher tied into their handheld device and the PS6, it will start to come together. Similar to how Xbox utilised gamepass on console and PC. But if this happens, i think it will be console exclusive, with a PC version also available after a period of time.
This will make PS players happy because Sony keep prioritizing them, but PC and Xbox fans might be mad.
Hard to imagine timed exclusives at a minimum for the foreseeable future, imho
Bro, lots of detail there about Kadokawa's IP and studios, great update think it will happen as its main news outlets also reporting on this. Also looking forward to playing Dynasty Warriors Demo on Friday.
Cheers bud, yeah looking forward to testing out DW demo this weekend.
@BGUKKY can you imagine the uproar on the Internet if sony do buy from software from other platforms lol
I really didn’t think they would be out here doing this but when you think about it it makes a lot of sense given the IP, single player nature of games FromSoftware owns, the relationship of PS gamers and Bloodborne, the Anime, Manga and Publishing/media that Kadokawa owns, it makes sense for Sony on so many levels but the uproar will be incredible
i hate consolidation.
but, if nobody stops Xbox from sucking up all the world's sh*ttiest publishers, then i'm fine watching PlayStation extend their reach over the best ones
Good take, like i say in the video, i dont like consolidation, but if Sony doesnt do it, Microsoft, Embracer, Tencent or someone else will step in. Its the best of a bad situation, at least if it is Sony, more often than not they will ensure the games/quality and execution are of a high standard.
Like you say bro, if Sony don’t acquire them someone else will. Love the content keep it up
Cheers bud
I suspect give Reuters is reporting on this that the rumour is true
Yeah i suspect there is an element of truth to this
Reuters don’t mess around. This isn’t a fanboy podcast reporting on it also. Reuters reported about the talks of Sony and Crunchyroll about a month before Sony formally announced the buyout in late 2020. So these guys are legit. Kadokawa’s stock also shot up and also when reps from both Sony and Kadokawa were asked to comment, they declined. If it was rumors, they’d dispel it. So then declining to comment also proved it’s true
Yeah that's very true, as i mentioned in the video, we have one of the largest news media agencies in the world reporting on a big business deal, they can't mess up reporting on speculation as it impacts market/share prices, they would also lose credibility if the story is too far off the mark. Sony were also recently linked to an acquisition of Paramount, so we know they are shopping around for a larger slice of the tv/music/movies business, this makes sense with Kadokawa given the massive presence with anime and manga content. The addition of gaming IP is also a valuable part of the business and adds significant depth to Sony's first party studio line up especially when you factor in games like Elden Ring, Sekiro, Armored Core, Dark Souls.
I think this acquisition makesa lot of sense and im not even the biggest FromSoftware fan. They are very talented and already have a long and good relationship with Sony. It would drive big console sales if they go 1st party PS and let Sony control the anime side of Kadokawa. It makes more sense, imo, than MS acquisitions.
Yeah I mentioned this on another comment, given Kadokawa’s IP form their games, to media and publishing, to their Anime and Manga it really suits Sony, they would be a really good fit to Sony’s business. The FromSoftware IP is also highly acclaimed and has lots of fans who enjoy those types of ‘souslike’ games.
@@BGUKKY Exactly! There's so much that just makes too much sense, not to mention Sony could lend them their tech like maybe using the Decima Engine for some games, and working closely with Xdev to make more optimized games, since that has always been a huge problem for FromSoftware and working on less platforms like strictly PS and PC would even further allow for better optimization. This one and Capcom were always the 2 I thought Sony would go after when the consolidation stuff started, just cause those 2 had the biggest relationships with Sony and when it comes to single player studio acquisitions that's always how Sony operated.
Yeah i see that happening along with Square Enix over time, there relationship with Sony is very strong and despite those companies making games across all platforms, at some point Sony will make their move. And FromSoftware getting all that tech support available across 1st party studios will greatly advance the quality of their games (not saying they were bad), add to that the support the other IP will also get whilst under Sony from their movies, music and Anime it just makes sense.
I dont think you know what you are talking about.
If this goes through and they don’t immediately work on Bloodborne I’m going to finally riot. Good news of the day is that there is reportedly a Dark Souls 3 remaster in the works. I cannot believe this may come before 60 fps Bloodborne. But I’ll take what I can get. Lol.
If this goes through I would imagine a Bloodborne remaster is what Sony will probably do first, given their track record of remakes and remasters so I think they will start there, enhanced for the pro followed by a Dark Souls remaster or remake leading to BloodBorne 2 in the future
Why dont you write them a letter, maybe they will listen to you.
This is great news. Personally, I hope that the deal goes through if microsoft can spend billions on xenomex and activision, it's only fair sony does what it needs to too boost their brand. And also, if they make all Fromsoft games Exclusive that will just increase game sales and console sales witch will allow the devs can get paid more, which is a win❤
Yeah i certainly think Microsoft is not really in a position to say anything considering they just acquired Activision.
@@BGUKKY Microsoft is in a lot of trouble they can't say anything because they spent more than Sony is going to spend and lied about increasing Game Pass. Also they're in the process of putting their games over to Sony so they have to be on good terms with Sony
I don’t think Microsoft could do anything, the only angle they have is that Elden Ring is a multi plat and that game shouldn’t be allowed to be made exclusive by Sony or something like that. In all honesty Xbox is finished as a console platform, I just see Xbox as the same as Embracer or Tencent, 3rd party publisher.
Consolidation is detrimental to the market. Less competitors, less innovation.
@@sebbyterasu78 well become the competition then..
@@denhawken Said the Lords to the Peasants
Yes this is true, but when competitors like Microsoft are acquiring entire publishers, and companies like Tencent and Embracer Group are picking up studios, either you (Sony) join the party or get left behind. In this instance Sony has decided to play, and the move makes good sense from their perspective given the IP and properties owned by the Kadokawa group.
@ehenningsen then you are virtue signaling like a sjw with no real intentions.
It's best for sony to aquire.. Microsoft and tencent will destroy the games and anime.
Atleast sony has a rather large stake in the games and a anime
Microsoft did exactly the same thing during the 360 era - keeping exclusive "paid for" content on Xbox, have you forgot that? You're acting as though Sony is the only company in the world doing it. All companies are scummy in one form or another, stop pretending Microsoft is your friend. At least with Sony, 30 years of experience delivery high quality games, i can bank on them continuing to deliver good games for years to come, can you say that about Microsoft?
Why with that game exclusivity in console though.
Console exclusivity keeps consoles relevant. If games go everywhere, what's the point in owning a console.
If true it better be for all IP. SMH, too many fingers in the avg "pie" these days
It's been confirmed today that Sony is indeed seeking to acquire Kadokawa - therefore owning everything including being the major shareholder of FromSoftware. It gets complicated because Tencent owns a share and so does Bandai Namco, if not of the studio then of some of the IP - like Dark Souls i think Bandai Namco owns some of it, its complicated although if this deal does go through as the majority shareholder (over 85%) Sony practically will run it how they want.
Thanks for sharing mate
You're welcome bud
🤔you’re telling me…the way Sony owns blood Bourne and nothing happen to it being “remaster”…now all future fromsoft games wil be treated the same 😬
Sony also owns Horizon God of War and multiple other IPs, you pick one IP and make it sound negative. The devs of Bloodborne was developed by FromSoftware - hence if Sony acquire them as part of the Kadokawa acquisition then it makes perfect sense for more bloodborne and future Soulslike games. Future from software games will continue to be made, like I said, Sony owns multiple IPs and it’s in their interest to make more games
I'm SHOCKED, SHOCKED I say
Well not that shocked. 😅
LOL - i was shocked, well, maybe just surprised a little, although given the rich anime and manga IP/content it makes sense, the added value of FromSoftware with their games and IP is also massive, they would fit into Sony's line up of 1st party studios perfectly.
Great! Now we can get these games patched for the Pro!
I really hope so - i would love to get Bloodborne 4K60FPS with ray tracing followed by a Bloodborne 2 in a few years time from FromSoftware, with Dark Souls and a new Sekiro set of games too
I don't like this Sony and Microsoft are grabbing too many small companies and they shut them down. Anybody remember what happened to Firewalk Studios and Tango Gameworks? Bungie is struggling as well. How do we know it won't happen to From Software?
It's not just Sony and Microsoft, it's also Embracer, Take Two, Tencent, EA, NetEase Games, and others acquiring studios. No one knows what's going to happen in the future, studios come and go all the time. It's no secret that Bungie was struggling before the Sony acquisition and would have closed if they were not acquired by Sony or another large company. How Firewalk studios got so far in development with Concord is beyond comprehension. The moment Sony took over that studio they should have paused development to re-evaluate that game, that studio closing is not all down to Sony, its also on Firewalk, there is no way that game should have continued development.
Tango Gameworks should never have been closed down, HiFi Rush was pretty decent and Tokyo Ghostwire i thought was also a decent game. The problem is if one company doesnt buy these smaller studios, then another company will. From what i have seen over the past 30 years, studios come and go, developers leave and set up new studios during times of consolidation.
If a company were to buy a studio then i'd rather that be Sony buying them than Microsoft, Tencent or Embracer, at least Sony has strong history and pedigree with their first party studios delivery high quality games. This of course doesnt guarantee anything, but it is what it is. Like i say, if Sony dont acquire them, someone else will.