Packing A Dual Sport Motorcycle For An Adventure Ride - Ken Hunter Seminar
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ค. 2024
- This video was recorded at Birds of Prey motorsports in Caldwell Idaho, and features Ken Hunter's seminar on how he packs his dual sport for adventure rides. In the last 10 years, Ken has stacked up an impressive 200,000 miles of adventure including:
The Transamerica Trail
Tennessee to the Oregon coast.
The Continental Divide Trail
The Pony Express route
At least four trips to Alaska
And has even fit in some overseas adventure in Thailand
...so needless to say he has some experience packing a bike for adventure.
Here Is The Link For Full Video Transcript - www.happy-trail.com/blog/packi... - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Appreciate the video with good ideas from experience. Thanks for sharing !!
Very good. The best adventure prep video I have seen. Thanks
Awesome Video! So Informative and made me really think about everything I want or need to do a long trip!
All that stuff.. I like the saw idea. Could even use it to cut pieces to build a ramp and drive over logs
Much appreciated for the time spent on this Vid, thanks
Lots of great advice thanks for posting it..! :)
Theres a lot of experience he shared with us. Thank u sir!
Great video, great advice. Thanks for sharing
That was very informative. Highly recommend this video.
Nice job Ken.
Thanks for the comprehensive video it's great to see how somebody else thinks about all of this. Learning from others experience that's the ticket.
I have two drz400s that I need to outfit for adventure riding. This video will help me get what I need. Thank you
The Happy Trail panniers I ran on the DRZ400 are the Teton 7.5". I would also recommend using the tail rack with the shelf. It's a great place for storing spare parts and tools that are easy to get to. I mounted the panniers so they were at the same height as the rear rack and seat. It makes for a nice flat platform for a dry bag. It also keeps the panniers high enough for tight rocky trials as well as keeping the bottom of the panniers above your knee when you put a foot down for safety. I really loved my DRZ400.
Very informative, it addresses most, if not all the issues one encounters when travelling like this. The one time I ran out of gas on my KLR was because I didn't have a saw to cut away a fallen tree and had to go back.
Really nice job lots of ideas enjoyed video
Amazing video
Great tips. thanks
Good tips and explanation. Thanks!
Absolutely great review you can tell this gentleman is definitely no yuppie
great video
Thanks!
Thanks for posting this vid. I definitely learned a couple tricks, I'll be looking for some welding rod tube, next time I'm in the big box store ;-)
Also it might not be a bad idea to throw in an umbrella, some hose clamps and a bucket on my next long trip.
fantastic
Great job, Mr. Hunter! Thank you for taking the time to share your experience and wisdom. I made note of several pearls to adopt. And as a side-note, I especially liked your mention of the efforts you make to attend church services during your adventures. Good stuff! Stay safe.
Thanks for the comments. Best church find was in Arkansas in a farming community. They were having a harvest feast to celebrate the recent harvest. Was invited to stay for the meal after the service along with volley ball, pitching horse shoes, etc. Just having fellowship with the locals .... awesome time.
awesome supper helpful .
good stuff
yep! legend my kinda bloke no messing great tips!
Great video with some helpful tips. I personally do not use synthetic clothing: it feels lousy, tends to smell bad and while it breathes, it's inferior to natural fibers like wool. Wool dries quickly too and doesn't stink after a wearing.
Sorry about missing this post earlier. Wool will dries faster than cotton but not close to synthetics. And it's bulkier. I'm the opposite of you which is what makes life interesting. I enjoy the feeling of good synthetic materials whereas wool drives me nuts. Makes me itch. Even the new non itchy wools make me itch. I also have extremely dry skin which may be part of my problem with wool. The object is to pack light with gear that fits you and go ride.
@@kennethhunter9845 Check Marino or Smart Wool...its amazing
Thanks for sharing, I've set up mainly like you have, I do however like the addition of the tank bags.
Nice
Good idea for tool storage.
Great video 👌 *Greeting from Sri lanka*
Riding in Thailand is the most challenging on rural roads the elephant's leaving 4ft tall dung's alongside the blind curves... advice is leaving your phone number with the last beer bar girls just in case of being totally immersed in one of the heap's, the girls can come out with their motor scooters with farm tools in order to extract from the revolting stinking development.. Enjoy a cold Chang beer rewarding the ladies for their assistance..
You forgot the dirty magazines.
some links would be nice
great video... thank you for your time ...
Can you tell me more about the pants for cold weather. Going to CO. This year. Those would nice to have. Where can I get a pair
nice video but what riding gear? I didn't any lighting, one water purifier ain't enough. Some essentials
were missing
First advice pack light then goes over the gear which almost matches the weight of the bike. Packing light really means different things to different people. For the rest is always nice to see what other people are packing. I never ride in the cold so nice to see what I could bring along if I ever would :)
One thing that I've noticed is no one on these channels talks about what they use for navigation? GPS, TOPO, CELL? Thanks for the video & Happy Trails
A very late reply. I GPS almost every ride. And when necessary I have topo's I can load onto my GPS. But I always carry a map, compass, fire starter, space blanket and energy bars as emergency backup. Always.
Great Video, thinking about trading in the bike I have and get a GS Adventure...at 49 I thought I would be too old but the more videos I watch I see I am just a pup so just maybe I will be able to in 2020. Can you run a list of the itesm you talk about, the one that surprised me was the Air Mattress, which I can not find X BED, everyone talks about sleeping pads but I like your idea.
You can check out the Blog Post at www.happy-trail.com/blog/packing-a-dual-sport-motorcycle-for-an-adventure-ride-ken-hunter-seminar/
Excellent information thank you taking time and sharing your experience. What tires would you recommend for the TAT Mr.Hunter?
I have to ask a question back. What bike are you planning on riding? I obviously rode a DRZ400S which for me was the ideal bike. I ran a Perilla MP21 on the front and a Dunlop 606 on the rear. It's a tried and true combination. Something I learned from other riders. Dunlop 606 front and rear works well also. I currently am riding a CRF250L with the MP21 and 606 setup. My other bike is a CB500X that I just purchased this year. I'm 79 so weight and ease of pushing around has become more important. The CB500X has been a good fit for me. Being a little bigger bike I put Shinko's 804 on the front and an 805 on the rear. Another great set up. I'm good at managing tires so I was able to run the TAT on one set. In October I did a 4,000 mile trip in British Columbia on the CB500X. Total mileage on the 805 was about 5,000 miles when I changed it. Could have done another 1,000 miles if needed. The front started cupping around 5,000 miles. Not sure if I was running them too hard, too soft or I was just overly aggressive cornering, which I love to do. But overall a great tire on and off road and very quiet and smooth for a big block knobby. At the price you can buy them for, I just replaced them both.
Useful video, thanks, Ken. I'm torn between getting that 400 or a 'newish' KLR. I like the lighter weight of the Suzuki but wonder what your experience is like planning on fuel stops. I know the KLR holds 6 gallons and was curious if that ever becomes an issue. Did you get an aftermarket tank?
Yes, i have an IMS 4 gal tank. With a stock motor with only the air box mod and rejetting I'm getting in the 60's mpg when I behave. That will match the KLR 6 gl tank. I've had two KLR's and would not go back since owning the DRZ. The KLR does have the edge on comfort for the road but not the power of the DRZ when you get into hilly country. Off road it's the DRZ. without question. I have a custom seat on the DRZ but also did the same to the KLR's. The one added feature that was a big help with the DRZ on the road was a steering damper yet I don't have one on my current DRZ and I do alright. One down side to the DRZ on the road is that it will be wound up (rpms) on the highway. But it will run all day doing that.
Figure 45 mpg on the KLR = 270 miles. DRZ at 60 = 240 miles on a tank.240 miles should take you anywhere. Alaska, the longest was riding the haul road to Prudhoe Bay. It's 250 between gas stops. Flor the rest of Alaska you can find gas within 175 easily. The TAT (Transamerican Trail) was 220 between gas stops. On the DRZ I never hit reserve. Did not ride it on the haul Road. The reason being is that I'm a two bike person. My second bike is now a 650 VStrom which I consider the poor mans BMW. Bought it used and now have 77,000 miles on it. It looks and runs like new. That's what I took on my last ride to Alaska. Awesome comfort, reliable and a 6 gal tank. Handles dirt roads easily. But if I had to go with only one bike it's the DRZ.
Super helpful! I'm wondering what bike he rides most on these long rides and how does he stay comfortable from butt to back?
Sorry about missing this when it was first posted. Custom seat done locally, handle bar risers for a straighter sitting position and on my V Strom I've lowered the foot pegs . I also run highway pegs on both bikes so I can stretch out from time to time. I'll even use the buddy pegs to obtain a different position. I also usually start early and ride late but never in the dark taking lots of breaks along the way. I'm also know for taking a day off and spending it on a full day hike..
Is that a Wr450f exhaust in the intro?
Hydration?
Nobody ever rode the tat and wished for a bigger heavier bike. 😂
I can certainly agree with that.
Hi Ken, I enjoyed your video. What model are your Happy Trails panniers? Thanks
I'll pass that along to Ken :) Those are a Teton Clif Cut
Great video Ken, well done!
I'm in the market for some panniers and have been seriously considering the HT Denali Cliff Cut, is that the set you have on your other bike, and if so how do you like them?
Cheers,
John
Sorry about the late reply. Yes, Denali cliff cut on my V Strom.
Sorry about the late response. Yes, I run HT panniers on both bikes, a DRZ400 and a 650 V Strom. Love the cliff cut on the Strom. Lots of space and the width is inside that of my handlebars. Something I always take into consideration.
What dual fuel stove are you using? A Coleman 442 or something? Just asking because I'm packing now and trying to decide what type to bring. So far, my Colemans make more sense for the reason you describe. I have a 442 and the slightly larger 533. I'll be doing a lot of cooking and they are bombproof.
I have an old Coleman Peak 1. That's what I carried the most. I have now switched over to a MSR Pocket Rocket that uses canisters.
@@pdnerfbarMakes sense , since you say you don't do a lot of camp meals. Thank you. Great presentation.
nice kit dude. How long would you usually be out with that kit for??
A few weeks or 6 months?
Either. The longest I've been out was three months but the kit didn't limit my time. It was my wife, I could hear it in her voice. Typical ride for me was three to five weeks.
although its probably 10 times the price, I think wool is 100 times better than synth... no smell, dries easy (not as quick as synth) warm and iff you sweat you stay dry....
Drew John and wool doesn't burn near fire or if an ember from a fire pops out it won't burn wool immediately
This was my post to another individual about wool.
Sorry about missing this post earlier. Wool will dries faster than cotton but not close to synthetics. And it's bulkier. I'm the opposite of you which is what makes life interesting. I enjoy the feeling of good synthetic materials whereas wool drives me nuts. Makes me itch. Even the new non itchy wools make me itch. I also have extremely dry skin which may be part of my problem with wool. The object is to pack light with gear that fits you and go ride.
Looks like you pack exactly like I do. I dont have the chair and I dehydrate all my meals for a couple weeks and fast 2 3 days a week.oh and I didn't see your bottle of scotch haha.probaby that's where you keep your chair. I e got the green exped I dont think they make them anymore but I bout two and they both still work fine 12 years latter but hell my tent is 35 years old and I lived in it every night for three years straight one time.i dont like my North face dry bag what is yours?
My dry bag is by Wolfman. Love their gear. Nope, no scotch or anything like it on the bike. I save those for when I'm on foot with a backpack.
Isn't Klim headquartered out of Caldwell?
No, it's over in Idaho Falls area but there are lots of dual sport companies in the Boise area here
No toilet paper? Sanitizer? Maybe he's like me and there's a roll in his jacket. First thing I pack is my "shit-kit". Let's just say I'll never get caught without it... again.
was also my firs thought. That and why does he only have a small bottle of water
You have a pot but what do you cook? Good coverage of gear. A little more detail on what you carry for tools would be nice. Do you drink coffee?
Actually I don't cook anymore. I enjoy finding a local eatery which gives me a chance to interact with the local people. It's always one of the highlights of my trips. Two light meals a day and a snack in between. I was an avid backpacker at one time so my meals when I did cook were very simple. Breakfast was usually pancakes because it's light and easy to carry pancake mix. For butter it was " I can't Believe it's not Butter" in a squeeze bottle because it does not have to be refrigerated. Brown sugar for the topping. Mid day was always snacks. Dinner was almost rice based because it's light and easy to pack. Today you can find Tuna fish, chicken and spam in individual packages that don't have to be refrigerated. Cook the rice through in your meat to heat it up and you have a one pot dinner. I don't need much in the way of variety, I can eat the same meal for days and still enjoy it. Never could get use to offee, so, no I don't drink it. I do enjoy a warm drink so it's hot "Tang" for me. I got to where I really enjoyed a cup of hot tang in the morning.
Tools: I usually get rid of all phillips head screws and replace them with hex head. I've stripped out too many phillips head screws in my day. My recommendation for tools is to use your tool kit you carry for routine service. Then you know you have what is needed. Then find a compact version of those tools to carry. What else: JB Weld,instant glue, duct tape, hose clamps (amazingly useful), I've used hose clamps and tire irons (I carry two) to hold together a broken subframe, bailing wire, zip ties, electric tape and short pieces of electrical wire.
I also carry as emergency gear about five power bars or something along that line, a space blanket (actually mine is like a sleeping bag) and a fire starter kit (Flint type) and a compus . I never touch the power bars, they are for emergency only. If it's a good year I throw them away at the end of the season.
think I mentioned it in the video that I carry a front and rear tube, patch kit and air compressor.
Any other questions just let me know.
@@kennethhunter9845 Thanks, I know most days eating on the road is much easier. Sometimes I am so far in the middle of know-where its not practical. Same for supper usually get something to eat before shutting down for the day, I carry some de-hydrated meals. Only need hot water, Just wondered how you did it. Hose clamps are something new, good idea, I do use tie-wraps for those kind of use although they are not as strong as hose clamps.
Thanks for the reply, Safe Riding Wyodrill.
What was the bike that frame broke?
It was a Honda XR650. Great dual sport bike but not made for Adventuring touring. Subframe broke because of the rear luggage weight. Wasn't carrying any more than other bikes in the group.
@@kennethhunter9845 I saw a video of a newer ktm adventure R bike whose frame broke. It was held together at first with tie downs and when he got back home he had supports welded into the frame on the sides. These bike companies need to make more robust frames if customers going to go off road with all that weight.
@@mts982 I agree. That's why I run proven bikes, a DRZ400 and a 650 VStrom.
Do you carry a pistol? Do you mount a survival knife anywhere?
No due to traveling in Canada, pepper spray is all Ken uses. No the knife
@@pdnerfbar bummer
Thought about a pistol but went with Bear Spray. I can carry it anywhere. Canada, Mexico, Honduras etc. Flint fire starter, space blanket and multitool nd saw.
No tools,tire tube?
Yes, see 14' onwards
Sorry about the late reply. Yes, I carry both a front and rear tube and all tools necessary to service the bike.Tools are carried in a welding rod tube strapped to the inside of the pannier rack as is the rear tube. The front tube is mounted on the front fender with a Wolfman tube bag.I also have a second welding rod tube strapped on the opposite side of the tool tube. In that I carry such things as JB weld, super glue, hose clamps, bailing wire, an assortment of nuts and bolts, etc.
You dont post many videos.
I don't video any of my rides. i take lots of pictures and I've done power point presentations but that's as far as I go.But if there is a ride I've done that I can help you with just let me know. Not much of a techy except for my GPS. And I still carry a compass for backup.
What was ken’s favorite trail in the past 10 years?
I'm going to put that into two categories. Some of the best exploring I've done has been in Nevada particularly Northern Nevada. But the best trail would be the TAT from the eastern border of Colorado to the western border of Nevada. The ultimate trail : take the Idaho Centennial trail north to the Canadian border rider over to Montana and take the Continental Divide trail to Buena Vista Colorado were it crosses the TAT. Then take the TAT west through Nevada, then north back to Idaho. Maybe we should start a new trail : we could call it the Rocky Mountain Loop Trail. Come on up to Idaho and we'll try riding that loop next year,
Hard question. I would go with the TAT only because it takes about three weeks to complete which means I get to keep riding for three weeks. But the ultimate ride starts right in Boise, Idaho and it's a combination of trails. North out of Boise on our back country route we started many years ago. From Boise to northern Idaho on dirt, thenover into Montana and ride the Continental Divide trail south to Buena Vista, Colorado where it crosses the TAT, thenwest Nevada and then head back north to Boise. The problem with answering that question is that there is seldom a bad ride, just bad weather from time to time.
200,000 miles huh? yeah, i guess 8 or so times around the earth he knows what he's talking about lol