My first time reading the books I was 14/15y, I don't think any of the movies has been released at that point.. So I didn't see them as kids bc they were older then I was. I'm 28 now, I have a 16y sister and SHE'S JUST A KID!!!!!!! It was insane reading this books again as an adult. So cruel.
Effie is one of very few characters who is better in the film than in the book. In the books she simply disappears and we hardly hear anything about her anymore. In the films she has a lot more character, emotion and in my opinion is extremely entertaining.
In real life the actress who portrayed Effie was constantly talking up thr books to anyone who would listen; even giving away copies of the books. One might say she was trying to get the films made and auditioning for the role she eventually protrayed.
I think that it’s a nice touch that in the movies Effie kisses Haymitch goodbye and is genuinely sad they have to say goodbye the three it’s a bitter sweet , full circle moment the books did not include. This just adds so much to their relationship, all four of them 😊
For this reason o grew really attached to a fan made theory that says that One day Johanna decide to go live in district 4 to stay with Annie and her child. It never happened but it's happier
I personally was always a bit bothered by the fact that Katniss's mom didn't go back to 12 to be there for Katniss. I get that it was hard due to Prim, but Katniss was her daughter too, and she had just lost her sister and endured the trauma of fighting in a war. Katniss wasn't even 18 years old. Her mom should have been there for her.
It tracks for her. If you remember, after their dad died, she completely shut down, and if it wasn't for Katniss, they would have died. Heck, that's when Peeta saved them with the bread. She can't handle trauma. When her girls needed her, then she wasn't there, so when Katniss needed her, she still wasn't there. At least she attempted to grieve with her.
The only reason she tried to be strong at all was purely for Prim’s sake, that’s what Katniss tells her to do before she left for the 74th. The only thing holding that woman together was Prim surviving. Same as Katniss. Not an excuse by any means, but definitely in character for Mrs. Everdeen
Id like to think that Katniss named her daughter Rue and her son after her father. Rue was the person who actually sparked the rebellion and helped spark Katniss’s own rebellion. And Katniss’s father also taught her how to survive and his presence was almost everywhere during the years Katniss went into the Hunger Games and the rebellion.
I like to think that pollux and Cressida were either really close, or together after the war. Trauma can bring people together, and they were the only ones, besides the remaining start squad members, who the other could talk to about what happened.
I know this will take quite some time to make, but I'm looking forward to you making a Hunger Games Book VS Movie comparison series, just like you did for Harry Potter.
@RachelSemple Yeah, but still, there are several things that the movies leave out. Plus, there are some notable differences. For instance: - In the first Hunger Games, Rue is speared by Marvel before being freed from the net in the book, but after in the movie. Also, in the book, Katniss shoots Marvel in the neck, but she shoots him in the stomach/chest in the movie. - In Catching Fire, the reason why Gale got whipped is different. In the movie, it was simply for tackling one of the peacekeepers. In the book though, it was because Gale was poaching. While the former head peacekeeper of District 12 was lenient, the new head peacekeeper Thread was far more strict and cruel. - In Mockingjay, Effie Trinket was in District 13, which was not the case in either movie. Plus, two scenes were changed due to the death of Plutarch's actor: Phillip Seymour Hoffman. Effie was the one to give Cinna's book to Katniss in the movie, then Haymitch delivered a letter from Plutarch to explain that Katniss's charges for killing President Coin are dropped. Overall, while The Hunger Games does do a more faithful job with their movie adaptations when compared to Harry Potter, I still think the differences between the books and movies are worth noting.
I dont know why, Im so attached to hunger games I read the books once and watched the movie once, I cant bring myself to do it again The mention of the name itself makes me sob The ammount of death,torture and so much more. My all time favourite book and movie series, Yet I cant watch or read it again for the fear of what happens
Movieflame just casually serving my love for both Harry Potter and The Hunger Games. Like seriously, these are my two favorite movie franchises and I loved all the books too.❤❤
Nice, I was hoping that you would make a similar video to what happened to every characters after the Harry Potter series at some point but with the Hunger Games. So that was a pretty good treat
It would be interesting to see the end results of similar series such as Divergent and Maze Runner since the endings can be ambiguous as to who exactly survived since not everyone is named in Maze Runner much like the tributes in Hunger Games (Excluding Ballad since all tributes were officially named at the reaping held in the capitol) not so sure about Divergent though.
I'm 19 and I really could not imagine my 16 year old self in the hunger games. It's crazy when your reading or watching The Hunger Games and realize how insane this story is
Thank you for this! If Suzanne were to make another sequel book what would you want the plot to be Movie Flame? If The Maze Runner can do it why not The Hunger Games?
I want to believe Caesar was spared. But the thing I don’t understand is why. Why kill off Finnick? Was there some kind of message behind his death? Also, can’t wait to see how Maysilee Donnor will be handled in the new film, seeing how Madge was basically erased from the films.
Bro I feel like the only reason she killed off Finnick is so the vote had an odd number of voters. However they could have just let commander Lyme live and then we could all be happy. But no. RIP Finnick
I am never going to forgive Suzanne Collins for killing Prim. It’s been almost 11 years and I’m still furious. I cried so hard, and I do the same every time I get to that part in the book or the movie. It’s not OK. It was wrong. It served no purpose. Katniss had been through hell and back. She did not need that. When time travel gets invented, I’m going to track her down and make her change that ending.
It’s definitely reasonable , if you look storywise. Coin knew that Prim was with the medics and so she dropped the bombs so it looked like Snow did it. For that reason Coin thought that Katniss definitely wanted to kill Snow, if she wouldn’t do it in the first place. But ofcourse Katniss found out about the bombs.
@ possibly for you, but it’s been about 10 since I finished the last book. I was a late bloomer because I inadvertently tried to read catching fire first and it made no sense so I just got frustrated and put them down for a couple of years.
@ibrahimarticov6978 i Will Always be on katniss side on this topic but at the same time i agree with you; pepole that saw the rebellion unfold from the outside don't know what we know
@@luciagianquitto4010it’s not really about sides, Katniss pov is that she doesn’t really blame Gale. Knows it’s not his fault since he didn’t know if those bombs were his and beetees since they knew nothing about Coins plan but even if she wants to push it behind her, she can’t because he’ll always be associated with it anyway in her mind. Gale also knows this and is distraught, because he also knows it doesn’t matter. He was supposed to take care of her family but failed. To the rest of panem though, no one even knows that the bombs were from district 13. Everyone thinks it was Snow who did it, so there’d be no reason for them to see Gale as ruthless. They see him as someone who solely saved hundreds of people in district 12
Mrs everdeen not being there for her daughter back in 12 shows that katniss and her only stayed together cuz of prim. They didnt have a good relationship anyways . Also 12 brings bad memories so she wanted nothing to do with 12.
Hunger games was soooo subliminal I enjoyed it, felt like so many things that happens in the world today. Just wish we’d gotten Gregor the overlander, that was what was originally picked so I’ve read that would make it to a movie, but I get with the setting it wouldn’t have even came close to the quality it deserved. That’s the only Suzanne Collin’s series I read and had all five books man they were sooooo good…I still wish there was more..
You should make a video on Dr. Gaul I have a theory that she killed Felix Ravenstill (in the film) so that Snow could eventually succeed President Ravenstill as the next president of Panem and the hunger games will continue
With Tigris, I thought Snow did that to her body. Forceing her to look like a tiger, and that's why she hates him. Can't say my source, but that's what I thought.
Nothing in the book or movies says that at all. Movie wise she says she used to be a stylist ‘until Snow decided I wasn’t pretty enough anymore’ implying that she looked so grotesque with all her enhancements that she was dropped as a stylist. Not that he did the enhancements. In the book it seems to imply Tigris did it herself because she literally acts like a tiger. She barely speaks, she hisses. And she only eats raw meat: she acts like she is a tiger and there’s no repast for her to do that in front of them. It seems to be a choice with how much she’s stuck to the bit with that theme.
you know the movies really make me forget that most of these guys were literal children. Now that I'm their age the realization really set in
I genuinely forgot that Katniss and Peeta were 16, and Rue was 12. It makes it even sadder
My first time reading the books I was 14/15y, I don't think any of the movies has been released at that point.. So I didn't see them as kids bc they were older then I was. I'm 28 now, I have a 16y sister and SHE'S JUST A KID!!!!!!! It was insane reading this books again as an adult. So cruel.
“Now I know I said I wouldn’t include anyone who died in the hunger games… but I can’t exclude Finnick Odare” realest words ever spoken
Effie is one of very few characters who is better in the film than in the book. In the books she simply disappears and we hardly hear anything about her anymore. In the films she has a lot more character, emotion and in my opinion is extremely entertaining.
yes in the book we dont see her until Katniss is about to kill coin
In real life the actress who portrayed Effie was constantly talking up thr books to anyone who would listen; even giving away copies of the books. One might say she was trying to get the films made and auditioning for the role she eventually protrayed.
They replaced the role of Fulvia in the final book with Effie in the movies.
“The Fate Of Every Hunger Games Character In The End” MAJOR PTSD AND TRAUMA THAT THEY WILL PROBABLY NEVER FULLY GET OVER
oh johanna mason, they could never make me hate you
same🥺💔 she’s one of my favorite characters
Movie Flame came out with a hunger games video right when we needed him.
SO RIGHTTTTT
REAL
I think that it’s a nice touch that in the movies Effie kisses Haymitch goodbye and is genuinely sad they have to say goodbye the three it’s a bitter sweet , full circle moment the books did not include. This just adds so much to their relationship, all four of them 😊
Suzen colins really gave johana the most depressing ending ever. Like i need some post book content giving her a happy ending
For this reason o grew really attached to a fan made theory that says that One day Johanna decide to go live in district 4 to stay with Annie and her child. It never happened but it's happier
It’s realistic considering what her character went through … it sucks tho
@@luciagianquitto4010this. This is what I'm talking about
@@luciagianquitto4010That's what I believe and no one can change my mind 😂
@@Laramaria2 it's an illusion BUT IT'S BETTER THAN REALITY
I personally was always a bit bothered by the fact that Katniss's mom didn't go back to 12 to be there for Katniss. I get that it was hard due to Prim, but Katniss was her daughter too, and she had just lost her sister and endured the trauma of fighting in a war. Katniss wasn't even 18 years old. Her mom should have been there for her.
I totally agree.
depression doesn't give you an excuse to be a bad person. katniss's mom knew full damn well that katniss was one of her daughters.
It tracks for her. If you remember, after their dad died, she completely shut down, and if it wasn't for Katniss, they would have died. Heck, that's when Peeta saved them with the bread. She can't handle trauma. When her girls needed her, then she wasn't there, so when Katniss needed her, she still wasn't there. At least she attempted to grieve with her.
The only reason she tried to be strong at all was purely for Prim’s sake, that’s what Katniss tells her to do before she left for the 74th. The only thing holding that woman together was Prim surviving. Same as Katniss. Not an excuse by any means, but definitely in character for Mrs. Everdeen
Cinna actually became a famous musician and changed his name to Lenny Kravitz !
YAYYYYYYYY
copium right here
Id like to think that Katniss named her daughter Rue and her son after her father. Rue was the person who actually sparked the rebellion and helped spark Katniss’s own rebellion. And Katniss’s father also taught her how to survive and his presence was almost everywhere during the years Katniss went into the Hunger Games and the rebellion.
I felt bad for Johanna. She is my favorite character
"Fortunately, the geese can take good care of themselves," -Katniss Everdeen, Mokingjay
omggg those last few pages killed me
peeta hugging his kid makes me cry everytime, its so heartwarming i cant 🤧😢💖
I like to think that pollux and Cressida were either really close, or together after the war. Trauma can bring people together, and they were the only ones, besides the remaining start squad members, who the other could talk to about what happened.
>talk
ironic
I know this will take quite some time to make, but I'm looking forward to you making a Hunger Games Book VS Movie comparison series, just like you did for Harry Potter.
But thg book and movie are actually quite similar compared to Harry Potter
@RachelSemple Yeah, but still, there are several things that the movies leave out. Plus, there are some notable differences. For instance:
- In the first Hunger Games, Rue is speared by Marvel before being freed from the net in the book, but after in the movie. Also, in the book, Katniss shoots Marvel in the neck, but she shoots him in the stomach/chest in the movie.
- In Catching Fire, the reason why Gale got whipped is different. In the movie, it was simply for tackling one of the peacekeepers. In the book though, it was because Gale was poaching. While the former head peacekeeper of District 12 was lenient, the new head peacekeeper Thread was far more strict and cruel.
- In Mockingjay, Effie Trinket was in District 13, which was not the case in either movie. Plus, two scenes were changed due to the death of Plutarch's actor: Phillip Seymour Hoffman. Effie was the one to give Cinna's book to Katniss in the movie, then Haymitch delivered a letter from Plutarch to explain that Katniss's charges for killing President Coin are dropped.
Overall, while The Hunger Games does do a more faithful job with their movie adaptations when compared to Harry Potter, I still think the differences between the books and movies are worth noting.
yes i’ve been waiting for this one🙏🙏
I dont know why, Im so attached to hunger games
I read the books once and watched the movie once, I cant bring myself to do it again
The mention of the name itself makes me sob
The ammount of death,torture and so much more. My all time favourite book and movie series, Yet I cant watch or read it again for the fear of what happens
Yes, I've been waiting for this and please do the same for Percy Jackson
pjo may not be that acurate cuz rick will never stop writing the pjo universe
@charlizethehufflepufgirl2460 too real, but I hope he doesn't stop for a while!
Another amazing hunger games video, keep up the good work Morgan 🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡
I love your videos Morgan. You work so hard and deserve everything you have and more. Great work as always.
Thanks for the content! It does more for us than I think you will ever truly know.
Love your videos!!!
Don’t stop
If we got a book set in the future of mockingjay, it should be the book katniss and peeta made dedicated to the people who died in the war
I bet that this video is goated!
Movieflame just casually serving my love for both Harry Potter and The Hunger Games. Like seriously, these are my two favorite movie franchises and I loved all the books too.❤❤
idea for a video, do a countdown of every hp character from the least powerful to the most
Love the new intro animation
I love that they're doing a book on the 50th hunger games
and a movie as well.
This is going to be awesome i love The Hunger Games.
Can you do a video about every Secret in Hogwarts please.
Respect and keep up the epic work.
Omg yessss
I can listen to you talk about anything. Always riveting
Nice sweatshirt and background light movie flame
Nice idea, man I can’t wait for sunrise on the repeat
I slick dont even care what franchise it is. Harry Potter, The Hunger Games, Percy Jackson. I see Movie Flame, I click.
This is stunning
Finnick, my goat 💔
Amazing work
Nice, I was hoping that you would make a similar video to what happened to every characters after the Harry Potter series at some point but with the Hunger Games. So that was a pretty good treat
i think johanna had the worst ending. she was literally left with no one.
It would be interesting to see the end results of similar series such as Divergent and Maze Runner since the endings can be ambiguous as to who exactly survived since not everyone is named in Maze Runner much like the tributes in Hunger Games (Excluding Ballad since all tributes were officially named at the reaping held in the capitol) not so sure about Divergent though.
Busy reading divergent 😊😊
Excluding the Ballad, not all the tributes were named
Haven’t watched this channel in a while. The intro change got me 🥲
I'm 19 and I really could not imagine my 16 year old self in the hunger games. It's crazy when your reading or watching The Hunger Games and realize how insane this story is
I FINALLY FOUND UR CHANNEL AFTER YEARS OF TRYING TO FIND IT AGAIN
Welcome back!
Thankyou for this video!
I’m not gonna talk about dead characters like Finnick… 2 seconds later; so let me tell you about Finnick! Lolx I loved it 😂😂😂
This is gorgeous
This is incredible
I always wanted to find out how panem was like after the rebellion. Thanks movie flame
May the odds be ever in your favor.
This is magnificent
You did this on the Harry Potter cast I’m glad you do wanna hear love to see it
Thank you for giving me a birthday gift i didn't ask for. I am such a big fan of the Hunger Games. I turned 20 today.
This is magical
Amazing video❤❤
great video morgan!! please please please rank all of the hunger games couples!!!!
Thank you for this! If Suzanne were to make another sequel book what would you want the plot to be Movie Flame? If The Maze Runner can do it why not The Hunger Games?
I’d like to think that Katniss’ mom came at least once to visit her daughter, son in law, and her grandchildren.
This is delightful
This is great
Movie flame wearing a Noah Kahan hoodie is incredible
This is nice
Thank you!!
This is wonderful
Love your videos as usual :)
ok but the capitol kids were innocent so.. don’t blame them, blame the parents
I remember reading the page where Prim died over and over again because I just could not believe it.
You look like a much younger version of Steve Martin. Great video btw
i love cinna sm 🥹🥹
Me too 😢
I want to believe Caesar was spared. But the thing I don’t understand is why. Why kill off Finnick? Was there some kind of message behind his death? Also, can’t wait to see how Maysilee Donnor will be handled in the new film, seeing how Madge was basically erased from the films.
Bro I feel like the only reason she killed off Finnick is so the vote had an odd number of voters. However they could have just let commander Lyme live and then we could all be happy. But no. RIP Finnick
@@TbobJeeLyme dad?
@@ruther5800Final vote had all the surviving victors. Lyme wasn’t one of them
@@Thewavedemonjackal oh..
I am never going to forgive Suzanne Collins for killing Prim. It’s been almost 11 years and I’m still furious. I cried so hard, and I do the same every time I get to that part in the book or the movie. It’s not OK. It was wrong. It served no purpose. Katniss had been through hell and back. She did not need that. When time travel gets invented, I’m going to track her down and make her change that ending.
It’s definitely reasonable , if you look storywise. Coin knew that Prim was with the medics and so she dropped the bombs so it looked like Snow did it. For that reason Coin thought that Katniss definitely wanted to kill Snow, if she wouldn’t do it in the first place. But ofcourse Katniss found out about the bombs.
The worst part is that suzanne collins was planning on killing prim the whole time she was writing it😭😭
It has been 14 Years.
@ possibly for you, but it’s been about 10 since I finished the last book. I was a late bloomer because I inadvertently tried to read catching fire first and it made no sense so I just got frustrated and put them down for a couple of years.
@@TheEvilChocolateCookie I am saying that was when MockingJay came out.
It’s so sad, Katniss and Gale no longer being friends, they had such good times as besties together 😭 💔
I still wonder why they gave Gale an army-related job. Dude proved that he ca be PRETTY RUTHLESS
From Katniss's PoV, yes. From others, none really saw or knew what he thought or did during the war, including the last bombing.
@ibrahimarticov6978 i Will Always be on katniss side on this topic but at the same time i agree with you; pepole that saw the rebellion unfold from the outside don't know what we know
@luciagianquitto4010 well, I also agree with you. I think this is the kind of ending that gives the thought 'it's unfair (kinda), but logical'
@@ibrahimarticov6978 i agree once again
@@luciagianquitto4010it’s not really about sides, Katniss pov is that she doesn’t really blame Gale. Knows it’s not his fault since he didn’t know if those bombs were his and beetees since they knew nothing about Coins plan but even if she wants to push it behind her, she can’t because he’ll always be associated with it anyway in her mind.
Gale also knows this and is distraught, because he also knows it doesn’t matter. He was supposed to take care of her family but failed.
To the rest of panem though, no one even knows that the bombs were from district 13. Everyone thinks it was Snow who did it, so there’d be no reason for them to see Gale as ruthless. They see him as someone who solely saved hundreds of people in district 12
Loving the eagles green studio light 💚🙌🏾
Go birds 🦅
This is impressive
Katniss seemed to almost be a mother for Prim....ready to even die for her in the hunger games....where was the mom
I always love your videos 🫶
Mrs everdeen not being there for her daughter back in 12 shows that katniss and her only stayed together cuz of prim. They didnt have a good relationship anyways . Also 12 brings bad memories so she wanted nothing to do with 12.
According to the tale of the hunger games, a lot happens afterwards but this of course is in a different universe
Hunger games was soooo subliminal I enjoyed it, felt like so many things that happens in the world today. Just wish we’d gotten Gregor the overlander, that was what was originally picked so I’ve read that would make it to a movie, but I get with the setting it wouldn’t have even came close to the quality it deserved. That’s the only Suzanne Collin’s series I read and had all five books man they were sooooo good…I still wish there was more..
Me realizing the books and movies are older than me
@movieflame would you, if you could, do a video essay on *Ancient Magic* in *"The Wizarding World"?!*
Are you going to do a book VS movie series for the hunger games? …… please?
This is interesting
Wait a minute... We're forgetting someone here. Someone very important... Where's Buttercup?
I didn’t think that The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes was that bad at all, I’m gonna assume that you don’t agree.
Don’t know where you got that…I’ve done nothing but praise it on this channel
Johanna Mason is bitter because she lost her whole family. You would be angry and bitter if that happened to you.
What about president snow’s kid?
YES MORE HUNGER GAMES BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY-
Johanna never deserved the torture
Natalie Dormer is just absolutely gorgeous ! That's all I can say about her !
This is cool
Where is buttercup on this list
😾😾😾😾😾😾
You should make a video on Dr. Gaul
I have a theory that she killed Felix Ravenstill (in the film) so that Snow could eventually succeed President Ravenstill as the next president of Panem and the hunger games will continue
Happy not happy, Quarter Quell year!
With Tigris, I thought Snow did that to her body. Forceing her to look like a tiger, and that's why she hates him. Can't say my source, but that's what I thought.
Maybe we'll find out in the next book.
Nothing in the book or movies says that at all.
Movie wise she says she used to be a stylist ‘until Snow decided I wasn’t pretty enough anymore’ implying that she looked so grotesque with all her enhancements that she was dropped as a stylist. Not that he did the enhancements.
In the book it seems to imply Tigris did it herself because she literally acts like a tiger. She barely speaks, she hisses. And she only eats raw meat: she acts like she is a tiger and there’s no repast for her to do that in front of them. It seems to be a choice with how much she’s stuck to the bit with that theme.
Can you make a video on the maze runner please
*Sees a long chunk for Joanna*
*happy*
tigris in the movie was nowhere close to the age of snow! they should have cast an old lady.
They probably didn’t know snow and Tigris were closely related. There was no indication before the ballad of songbirds and snakes
No one could ever make me hate Joanna
can't sleep 3am in the morning 😭don't mind watching some videos