What You Need to Know about Anchoring in Japan

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  • @DeepBlueandBeyond
    @DeepBlueandBeyond 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Good information, thanks for the update, it’s sad to see some of the negative comments about SLV, haters and jealously.

  • @davidtwittey4613
    @davidtwittey4613 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I admire the level view given by you about the accident involving SLV. The clarity. It was an accident and it is their story to tell. Your experience in these waters was really useful pointing out the culture around the fishing ports.

  • @OutsideYourZone
    @OutsideYourZone 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    Great tone, thanks for the informative vid

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      thanks

  • @cathytodd3996
    @cathytodd3996 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    Thanks for some much needed perspective on La Vagabonde's accident. So many others wanting to create drama out of someone else's crisis. It can happen to anyone. Our sailing boat was hit by a fishing boat in Greece, thankfully only superficial damage for us, but a shock none the less. We lit our boat at deck level at night from then on, as well as showing the anchor light. Best wishes to the La Vagabonde crew.
    Enjoy the cherry blossom 🙂

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      thanks for watching and good advice.

  • @garymalm
    @garymalm วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    I will add one thing Lowell.
    When anchoring, of course the anchor light is switched on, but nowadays the AIS transponder is also activated to show your position. Let it be known that in Japan NO small fishing boat and almost no medium sized fishing boats (up to 12 tons or so) had an AIS receiver or transceiver. So if you are expecting to see or to be seen by a fisher with by AIS, forget it. Even AIS receiving VHF radios are a rarity.
    I imagine L.V. had theirs activated as an extra safety measure, but to no avail.
    Fog, heavy rain, background lighting all go to make boats very hard to see and you cannot rely on AIS in Japan.

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      thanks for watching and making those good points

  • @Nordener720
    @Nordener720 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Thank you for your true information over the sailing in Japan and over Vagabond

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      You’re welcome!

  • @tinam2111
    @tinam2111 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thanks for sharing your perspective on LV and your experience in Japanese waters. It is refreshing to hear a voice of reason in these times of armchair quarterbacks who seem to have no end to their unfounded and irrational opinions and who proudly and loudly express them at every opportunity. ❤

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you

  • @RB9522
    @RB9522 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Thanks for keeping things at sea level. Most important no people were injured. I'll bet the damage to the vessel(s) will be expensive. It will be very interesting to learn about the watch conditions on the vessel underway. What could have prevented this accident. In those waters it might be prudent to keep AIS active along with an anchor watch and radar perimeter watch. (assuming vessels are so equipped.) It will also be interesting to know who reported the accident to whom and how they did it. And, what was the response. Thanks again for your videos.

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Thanks for watching! Yep good questions and good points. From my local contacts in the know, the fishing boat reported it to the Japan Coast Guard and the Japan Coast guard concurred that the fishing boat was at fault. This has been since put in writing and SLV`s agent, a friend of mine, has the copy

  • @shegally
    @shegally 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Lovely video. It was an accident. Japan had a beautiful and respectful culture. Gld to hear it extends to their waters and fisbermen as well ❤. ✌️ to Japan and to all involved. Hope to sail there some day as well.

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for watching. Come to Japan

  • @VetSemperFi
    @VetSemperFi วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    When you mentioned chasing the cherry blossoms on bike, it brought back fond memories of Japan and a warning. I was stationed at Iwakoni and Okinawa for a year back in 1977. At that time the Yen to Dollar exchange rate was 300/1, which made it possible for a young Marine to buy a 10-speed bike and tour the country, immersing myself in Japanese culture, well away from the military influenced, over-crowded cities. Biking into the hilly, narrow, switch back roads led to eye-widening beauty, adventure, polite and inviting people, and something I've never felt before, a spiritual awakening in a forest of bamboo. But I digress... the warning came from our brass to anyone who travels the country by car or bicycle, Do NOT hit a pedestrian... they always have the right-away and you WILL go to jail for a very long time!

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for catching and comment sharing your bicycle adventure! I enjoyed reading it

  • @windansea6702
    @windansea6702 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Hi Lowell, on a personal note I do not care much for them. That said your comments are welcomed and accurate. I chose not to bring my boat here from California because the sailing environment just wasn’t that attractive. When the family said they were wanting to get into the shelter of the Seto inland sea I predicted trouble for them. As you know it can be furious, that coupled with the volume of vessels, aquaculture, and strong currents is not optimal for unfamiliar sailors. Anyway, nice video.

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Thanks for watching and your perspective ….. yep Seto inland sea is beautiful but does have its challenges

    • @ptroy72blue
      @ptroy72blue 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      I can't stand the show

  • @user-pu2nl4sj4s
    @user-pu2nl4sj4s วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Excellent info. Thank you. The bike trip sounds amazing! Might have to do that first. Hopefully you’ll be doing some videos on your two wheel travel.

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for watching to the end!!!! Cycling in Japan is great!

  • @robinmalina2645
    @robinmalina2645 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks for some comment on La Vagabonde's accident and sailing in Japan. I believe it was an accident. But in Japan they are not ready in many areas for foreigners and sailors like La Vagabonde are really rare and Fishermans are really not expecting something like them... they do not expect somebody would be there - it is so rare.... Japan is not easy even for normal life... Japanese people are very nice but general commonsense is different - and even you don't do anything wrong it can be a trouble as it is not common activity there. In last almost 25 years I had a lot of really strange experiences in Japan and my Japanese wife's family and friends needed to help me often at beginning... I hope Riley and Elayna will handle all well.

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yep. I concur. I advise incoming sailors whether you hire and agent or not, the fact is you do need help and support from somewhere. Having an agent as SLV do makes a big difference to smoothing out some otherwise awkward even frustrating situations where mis communication can add to the stress. But for those of us who do not have an agent, we must still rely on others, whether it is family, friends or a stranger to to help out, of which they are always in ready supply I have found. Japan is an adventure. Been here 27 years, my language still `sucks` but love living and traveling here

  • @SV-DEDICATED
    @SV-DEDICATED วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    You're about our sole channel creator representative in Japan.

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hope to be of help … there is not a high volume of cruisers coming but the numbers are increasing … where are you?

    • @SV-DEDICATED
      @SV-DEDICATED วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@PacificSolo Southwest Florida.

    • @KiowaFreedom
      @KiowaFreedom 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Wrong, there is also Sailing Seamurai YT, Nemanja from Choshi on a Yamaha 26 sailboat. . Even if he doesn't post so much since 1 year,. A good sailor ;)

    • @SV-DEDICATED
      @SV-DEDICATED 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Giada is there too. One or two uploads a year doesn't make them a sailing channel creator.

    • @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
      @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Theres Sea of japan on his Wharram Islander and theres also The guy building a Dudley Dix 46ft catameran. Hes Australian i think ...hes the only man in Japan building a Catamaran . His channels called Salt and Light ... Its a men with sheds type effort with some Japanese
      guys helping out.

  • @shellyitoh9570
    @shellyitoh9570 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thanks for this information. It’s been a bit nerve wracking hearing all the misinformation floating around. I was shocked and so sorry to hear that it happened near the area I live. But I think everyone involved took the responsible actions necessary. Thanks for keeping to the facts about the incident and sailing here in Japan.
    I’ve been watching SLV since they first started making videos, so I’ve been hoping to meet up with them at some point here in Japan.
    Good luck on the cycling trip. Will you come through the Okayama area?

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for watching as anyways. Unlikely I will be sailing anywhere near Okayama as I plan on the east coast and visiting the remaining prefecture I have not been too … Shimane

    • @shellyitoh9570
      @shellyitoh9570 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @ I was wondering if you’ll ride your bike through this area. The coast of the Japan Sea along Tottori and Shimane is really beautiful! I highly recommend it.

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@shellyitoh9570 I will certainly cruise through, I have cycled Tottori before but Shimane remains the single remaining Prefecture to visit

  • @markthomasson5077
    @markthomasson5077 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thanks.
    What surprises me is that the Fisherman admitted liability…imagine that any where else in the world. Says a lot for the Japanese.

    • @RB9522
      @RB9522 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @markthomasson5077 this is very normal in Japan. Quickly and honestly taking responsibility is expected in Japan. If you are found responsible after denying it you will get more severe consequences.

    • @stefflus08
      @stefflus08 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I can absolutely imagine that in Norway. And if consequences takes a turn for the worse, later justice still doesn't hinge upon what you might have said in the moment.

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes it does

  • @Magnus-qr7lj
    @Magnus-qr7lj วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Ahh chasing Sakura. What a lovely idea, enjoy!

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Indeed! Thanks for watching to the end!

    • @Magnus-qr7lj
      @Magnus-qr7lj วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@PacificSolo No worries mate! Might have to sell the boat and move to Japan. Cheers

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      sail to japan ;)

  • @peterblakeney1370
    @peterblakeney1370 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    It’s unfortunate to see the negative comments about SLV. While they are not my favourite sailing channel, the fact that they are maximising the you tube business to fund their lifestyle does not make them disengenuous people. Their subscriber numbers prove that there is a market for their content, maybe dreamers , romantics and not serious cruisers. Who knows? I don’t! I wish them well🙏

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I agree. Thanks for watching and commenting

  • @thecarpenter645
    @thecarpenter645 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sounds like Japan is like a few other countries I know, Greece for one fishermen out in their small boats at all hours of day and night trying to make a living and tourists boats all over the place and a lot are lacking experience and local knowledge for a particular culture or place it takes time to understand this knowledge. The poor fisherman probably doesn’t realise it but the worst thing he’s done is he pricked their ego in not identifying that they were there. Sure there will be a bit of damage to the boat but that’s easy to fix and it’s only an attachment doesn’t sound like any human was damaged just the ego and that’s an attachment as well so no real problems they’ll just have to put out a few more TH-cam videos to help pay for it. Cheers like your Yacht Your Attachment not mine I spent my time at sea and it was a great experience.

  • @mskq4409
    @mskq4409 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Happiest Holidays to you Sir, we love all your vlogs and content!! Take care out there, beautiful journey beautiful!!❤️

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Awww … thanks so much

  • @LibraryComputer-s8i
    @LibraryComputer-s8i 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    is there a vid yet about the damage . i havent found one.

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Not yet by SLV have announced on fb that a video is being released shortly

  • @DVolvoguy777-x7o
    @DVolvoguy777-x7o 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Not a good idea. That’s where Godzilla lives.

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      😆

    • @DVolvoguy777-x7o
      @DVolvoguy777-x7o 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ on a serious note. Japan would be a bucket list item for me. 27’ Catalina won’t cut the mustard for this task…. Stay safe sir!

  • @janetjeason1341
    @janetjeason1341 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good info...

  • @MethosFilms
    @MethosFilms วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    When I anchor at night I leave all my navigation lights on to be the most visible.
    My guess is they didn't because the fishing vessel would of Sen them at night.
    That's my guess. Ais was off and no lights on.

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The story yet needs to be told by them. My understanding is lights were on. I think the fisherman was doing what he does every night … preparing his boat … and didn’t see the anchored pleasure vessel … in any case he acknowledged to the coast guard he was at fault and the CG agreed

    • @MethosFilms
      @MethosFilms 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @ oh I agree. That is why I said my guess.
      I have every light on at night when I am anchored to be visible.
      I know they value their privacy so that is why I can see them not wanting to advertise where they are. There is obviously down sides to that.
      I shall wait if they want to tell us exactly what happened.
      They don’t even have to tell us really.

  • @claverton
    @claverton วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Very informative. Hope you enjoy your cherry blossom ride!

  • @philipcopeland3409
    @philipcopeland3409 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    A fisherman not expecting to see a cruising boat anchored - completely ignores the most important of rule of being a boat captain - that is keep a watch of what’s going on around you. Putting you boat on autopilot - then working elsewhere on the boat is negligent. The Japanese maritime industry needs to reform these practices urgently.

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I don’t disagree . Thanks for watching

  • @simonpickering2665
    @simonpickering2665 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Interesting that no one questions why an anchor watch was not being maintained - it is generally considered to be best practice and good seamanship …. There is no shortage of adults on board with the paid crew etc and owners ….

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Good question and no doubt they will answer in time …

  • @saltlightdix4704
    @saltlightdix4704 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Hey, if you are close to Toyama at anytime, come and see me. I building a 47' sailing cat there.
    Kev

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I’ll be sailing by next spring! Let’s stay in touch

    • @saltlightdix4704
      @saltlightdix4704 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ I’ll be heading back to Australia in Feb( escape some of the winter) back early march. Absolutely would love to meet up.
      Kev

  • @SVPearler
    @SVPearler วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks for your information.

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  วันที่ผ่านมา

      You are Welcome!

  • @stefancoors1102
    @stefancoors1102 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What about smaller vessels in Japan not being required to have AIS on board? Is that true, and is that not the likely culprit?

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      perhaps . . as I mention in the video, the waters around near fishing ports can get kinda crazy in the wee hours of the morning . . I have never been at anchor near a port, but I have left and arrived ports in the middle of the night. I watch everyting on my AIS and I have radar too. But there is alot of avoidance exercises . . . And actually my own boat does not have a AIS transmitter only receiver . . . this is because I need a license that up to now is only available Japanese. But I have been told that has changed and now I can take in a certificate copy of my Canadian Maritime Radio License to get reciprocated. My boat is Japan Registered so I am under a different set of rules to incoming cruisers

  • @BillJohnston-y7o
    @BillJohnston-y7o 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    No way in heck I'd want to go there. Rather go where very few people are. So many nice places to go without all that stress.

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      And of the 70 ports I have been to so far, I have been the only one or very few others. I love sailing remote Japan. I avoid busy fishing ports

  • @drmoynihan
    @drmoynihan 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    We love La Vagabonde and have been watching since the beginning.
    We are confused where the accident happened. There have been maps showing the accident happened between Japan and Korea. But from what was written on your video ( 1:44 ) , it says it happened off of Kagawa which would be in the Inland Sea. We are familiar (MK born/growing up in Japan & Family in Shikoku & scuba in Kochi Prefecture) with the area.
    A comment, as an Oregon offshore sportfisher. Any time I was offshore (usually within 30 miles of shore/50 miles of Port) I kept a watch for commercial fishing vessels (both small and large) because many times the fishing vessels are preoccupied with gearing up on the way out or getting ready to unload at home port. I would NEVER sleep without a watch and was always lit up like a Christmas Tree. I was brought up to "drive defensively" my US Navy Officer Dad - whether on land or sea.
    And I will add, sea-going tugs pulling barges with long cables and occasional container ships are a terror. And the Inland Sea is crazy with all kinds of traffic. Never would I be offshore without a watch.

  • @briany6983
    @briany6983 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    This guy says a lot and then repeats and then repeats some more. So many words that go nowhere!

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      `` this guy` ;) is responding to those interested in cruising to Japan and have been asking whether anchoring is legal and whats up with Japan fishermen. Yep, I repeat and I am not all that good on camera etc, but wanting to get the message across for those to whom in matters, the small but growing number of cruisers considering coming to Japan. For those folks, I trust it is helpful to have the simple points made. Thanks for watching

  • @johnwinnerdz1
    @johnwinnerdz1 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Without watching this whats rhe summary. They sailed into floating junk or container ship what?????

  • @mosca3289
    @mosca3289 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Best wishes to you, too 😁

  • @tedgayer336
    @tedgayer336 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I hope the fisherman is ok

  • @markevans7066
    @markevans7066 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yacht anchor lights are a joke. Leave your LED spreader lights on. We've been doing it for a decade.

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Good idea

    • @markevans7066
      @markevans7066 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@PacificSolo thanks! I don't understand why more sailors don't do it. LEDs don't use much power. I started doing this when a friend's yacht was hit by a small speedboat (thundercat) at night. She came up to see the boat sitting there with the engine running and no one around. The next day the police found two bodies under the yacht.

  • @Candlesinthewoods
    @Candlesinthewoods 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you.

  • @daviddelong7598
    @daviddelong7598 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    waste of a video. you gave zero advice about what to do if cruising or anchoring to avoid a similar incident.

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well, thanks for watching anyway. The purpose was to make a singular point: anchoring is legal, but not every common place. Regarding advice, if you are coming to Japan, the general consensus is DON`T ANCHOR overnight. This is the expectation by local boaters and fishermen, and besides, it`s when at the dock you meet people and have the real adventure of being in Japan and experiencing local life. Plus, in most cases, it is free or very, very cheap. I have moored in 70 ports so far, and I have seldom paid anything. Only in marinas do I pay. If you anchor, then be sure you are far from any port entrance and aqua farming and that you are lit up like a Christmas tree.

  • @guthmang
    @guthmang วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    I stopped watching when you stated how genuine they are.. . LOL! About as non genuine as any YT channel there is. Glad they are OK and am sure they will monetize this event to no end.

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  วันที่ผ่านมา +39

      Haha … well I’m only passing on my observation having spent time with them when they first arrived in Japan … they were the same off camera as on camera … enjoyed my time with them and also the crew they had who visited my boat separately for drinks … I can’t speak for your encounters with SLV … personally for me…. It was great and as far as them monetizing their content … more power to them as it makes their lifestyle and channel sustainable … good on them .

    • @Chris-zo5ze
      @Chris-zo5ze วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      @@PacificSolo Some people are just salty that others can make money by making videos on TH-cam. Why wouldn't they document the accident and make a video about it? I'm interested. I'll watch it.
      I've met Riley and Elayna too and they seemed amazing.

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@Chris-zo5zethanks for watching!

    • @SVPearler
      @SVPearler วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@Chris-zo5ze probably holding off just in case it could stir up legal issues or jeopardise they time there.

    • @davidcain3063
      @davidcain3063 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@Chris-zo5ze video being realised later today, according to Riley on Sea People.

  • @isawthis448
    @isawthis448 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Don't listen to this guy. He told vegabond where to anchor, and then they get hit...

  • @sailingbrewer
    @sailingbrewer 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    6 minutes in and nothing of value besides it's legal

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for watching and if that is your takeaway then that is good. My aim is to reassure cruisers contemplating coming to Japan.

  • @ptroy72blue
    @ptroy72blue 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is at least the third seirous issues,incident, or thing they have had with that stupid multi billion super carbon trimaran, why put your children at risk? You could've gotten just another catamaran...you know I fear for their childrens safety

  • @gsail6600
    @gsail6600 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I bet their shit is all over patreon but they don't give shit about a quick up date for anyone else. 👎

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      It’s their story to tell and they will share I am sure in due course. To be violently awakened in the middle of the night with young children on board certainly would be unsettling … for me at least.

  • @deepdivedelight
    @deepdivedelight วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Another drama from those plastic fake folks living off the internet :

    • @Tetsaraku
      @Tetsaraku วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I see a very ’emotional’ crash episode coming up, sponsored by Better Help of course, in the very near future. Not to mention the agony of selecting a new boat, sponsored again by Better Help because it’s just SO stressful to select a multimillion dollar boat…

    • @daveamies5031
      @daveamies5031 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@Tetsaraku Well you could go back to watching the crap on tv like "The Bold and the Beautiful" or "Days of Our Lives", etc 🤣

    • @Blikkies-hc3ox
      @Blikkies-hc3ox วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Who are the plastic folk you are referring to?

    • @PacificSolo
      @PacificSolo  23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      Well everyone is entitled to their opinion and mine is different to yours. I am not sure how ‘fake plastic people ‘ is defined but people who are living a lifestyle they choose in a way that is sustainable via internet or otherwise have my attention and admiration.

    • @DeepThought9999
      @DeepThought9999 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Jealosy is a curse. Remember that.