Counter-Strike's Huge Lawsuit: Valve vs. Vivendi

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  • @Retro-Calico
    @Retro-Calico  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you all so much for the reception on this video, 10,000+ views in just over a week is huge to me. ☺
    ➡Next up, a NEW video to build on this one is currently in progress, should be released in the next few days as I work through editing. (topic was hinted in this video)

    • @oddred
      @oddred 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fun fact: pc bangs are called bangs because they mean pc rooms (pc 방)

  • @Nikitoz9595
    @Nikitoz9595 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    I actually played cs 1.6 for the first time in an Internet cafe in Russia in 2002 when I was 7. And like that I became instantly addicted and have had a passion for video games ever since.
    Of course it was a pirated version, no one paid any fees to Valve.

    • @GodOfGamingBG
      @GodOfGamingBG 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      got to have been 1.5, as 1.6 was released in september 2003

    • @BriJeeTVGameDev
      @BriJeeTVGameDev 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was not pirated, do you know about Steam Cyber Cafe old service? It gives acess for 20 or 30 comps per license

    • @bricksquadgermany
      @bricksquadgermany 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@BriJeeTVGameDev in what world are you living to think some random russian internet cafe has something like steam cyber cafe, steam didnt even exist till 1.6 and i NEVER seen any internet cafe with this service :D bruh imagine some shady turkish or indian scammer chef would buy a license for cs hahahahahahahahahha

    • @Nikitoz9595
      @Nikitoz9595 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bricksquadgermany exactly, nobody paid for anything back then

    • @Nikitoz9595
      @Nikitoz9595 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@GodOfGamingBGprobably, for us it was just "counter strike", nobody mentioned the version number back then. Only years later I learned that it was 1.6 or more precisely 1.5 like you said

  • @saltierdongs7760
    @saltierdongs7760 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I used to go to an Internet cafe with my dad when i was 5-7 years old. Played Sven Coop and CS all the time. That was circa 2005. Miss those days for sure

  • @Mercinatar
    @Mercinatar 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    You should explain crossfire because I have no fucking idea what it is still

    • @Swattii
      @Swattii 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      It's just a Korean copycat of Counter-Strike 1.6. Fun fact, it uses the same engine as F.E.A.R.

    • @benr8906
      @benr8906 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      yep

    • @Retro-Calico
      @Retro-Calico  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I might have to do another video soon then :)

    • @crashniels
      @crashniels 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Swattii and it's still quite popular in Asia. Mostly China and South Korea.

    • @denis2381
      @denis2381 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Crossfire is a technology that allows you to run 2 amd graphics cards on one pc.

  • @XanderNiles
    @XanderNiles 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This unheard story easily flew under the radar or so I've been told. Regardless, it's a cool fact that a lot of peeps out there should know about.

  • @Doofman60
    @Doofman60 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As someone with 5.5k hours in CSGO/CS2 i had no idea about this,This was all really interesting and I'm glad youtube suggested it. Good stuff man

    • @Retro-Calico
      @Retro-Calico  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much :)
      To add to that, me as well having played CS for the past decade across all its titles, I had no idea about this until I saw an article and did some digging, it is really interesting stuff and I have more to come on similar topics too

  • @TWzi_QOd9E7fAYcKiT
    @TWzi_QOd9E7fAYcKiT 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    90's kid here, cybercafes have a special place in my heart. LAN games of cs 1.3, oh the memories...
    There was this trick were you can change the name of the nickname of the person who was hosting with a command prompt, cmd name and you can bet how fun that was.

  • @mcwine18
    @mcwine18 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    0:54 can anyone remind me which map or scene this was from again? Looks SO familiar as if I've played on it but I cannot recall from where.

    • @Retro-Calico
      @Retro-Calico  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      de_prodigy 😉

    • @mcwine18
      @mcwine18 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Retro-Calico THANK YOU!!!

  • @notdan4631
    @notdan4631 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is pretty insightful, considering that that south koreans are known for being good at mobas and Fighting games specifically, in an other world if this lawsuit didn't happen cs would be way more prominent there and possibly develop east asia to have a more popular fps scene in general (like how cs 1.6 developed in CIS)

  • @SaKOTR
    @SaKOTR 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We had an internet cafe/LAN party spot at my local comic shop in the late 90's early 00's back in Pennsylvania. Spent my last years as a teenager there. Good times. You guys born in the 90's/00's missed out. I remember this lawsuit, made for good conversation on Planethalflife forums each time something popped up, because we didn't know which direction it was gonna go. Great job summing up our years of stressing with Valve in under 9 minutes lol

    • @Louis.7493
      @Louis.7493 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      sure missed out man yeah totally haven't gone into internet cafes with the boys at least once every week off

  • @AtomicBl453
    @AtomicBl453 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you cover Soldier Front? The rise, the fall, the good, the ugly. I don't think I've ever seen anyone cover that before, the game was massive for the time and it was a lot more fun than Counter Strike imo.

  • @Welkinthewolf
    @Welkinthewolf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cross fire sounds like a interesting topic. Has the eastern side ever got another cs clone thats been more up to date with graphics and technology other than crossfire

    • @Retro-Calico
      @Retro-Calico  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There are many CS clones to come from Asia I’d say, primarily out of South Korea.
      I talk about Crossfire in my latest video, and it’s the biggest one by far, and did see a few other spin-offs with some sort of updated graphics, but were never as popular as the original.

  • @TheSeriousSoul
    @TheSeriousSoul 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Crossfire.

  • @suyac1774
    @suyac1774 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    give us that crossfire b0i

  • @Mr.Vercetti-7
    @Mr.Vercetti-7 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So interesting. I played Crossfire back then since it was free. Maybe you could make a video about it.

  • @nsf001-3
    @nsf001-3 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Should've*

  • @chazz3316
    @chazz3316 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    nah, they would create a copy with a different name, like Valorant, believe me

  • @happyraintf
    @happyraintf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video bout to blow up! Nice thumbnail too!

    • @Retro-Calico
      @Retro-Calico  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks mate!

  • @Louis.7493
    @Louis.7493 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    where i live
    if you really are a teenager from here you've GOT TO go in a internet cafe at least go once or twice
    and i tell ya it's filled to the brim with pirated lan party video games all content unlocked
    people mainly used it for counter strike 1.6 and CS:GO around 2015

  • @0luc83
    @0luc83 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly I'd watch the video about crossfire. I dont know anything about it would be fun :D

  • @AtteR04
    @AtteR04 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Crossfire video would make me subscribe

  • @di57inct
    @di57inct 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    00:32 what is thattt

  • @teakplum4284
    @teakplum4284 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been to only a couple of pc cafes and will always be the only one playing counterstrike. And when I queue, it is mostly chinese. only a handful of koreans.

  • @rawbertdogler
    @rawbertdogler 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    its pronounced bong. like what u musta been smokin on to not look up a pronunciation guide
    jk cool video big fella. also the comment about never hanging out at a lan center made me feel mad old. rip planet x

    • @Retro-Calico
      @Retro-Calico  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol Thanks!
      To be honest, Lan Centers never appealed to me before, but now I wish I could’ve at least experienced one back in the day..

  • @determiner212
    @determiner212 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Csgo cs2 tryhards doesn't know the deep feel of cs1.6

  • @Jake-jc1ve
    @Jake-jc1ve 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    cool vid dude, subbed!

    • @Retro-Calico
      @Retro-Calico  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, much appreciated! 😄

  • @kryss_9315
    @kryss_9315 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The fact that Cs 1.6 is still being played nowadays is a miracle.

    • @michaelmiriammaxchill1168
      @michaelmiriammaxchill1168 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Until Valve released the Sourcecode for Goldsrc and Counter-Strike, the game will never grow properly. Valve is not the creator of CS, yet now they pretend they are.

  • @ZnifferN
    @ZnifferN 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video👌👌

  • @kobus9795
    @kobus9795 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I knew about this lawsuit being a thing, but never realized how complex the entire thing was.

  • @bannanafruitsalad
    @bannanafruitsalad 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Should keep in mind, steam was complete ass when it came out and a strict downgrade from the reliability of the old WON servers.

    • @denis2381
      @denis2381 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wrong statement.

    • @bannanafruitsalad
      @bannanafruitsalad 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@denis2381 ? I was there. Everyone hated it. WON would "just work" but steam had the typical teething issues

    • @denis2381
      @denis2381 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bannanafruitsalad that's not true.

    • @denis2381
      @denis2381 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bannanafruitsalad fanboy kittycat

    • @denis2381
      @denis2381 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bannanafruitsalad chirrpchirrpchirp

  • @DeividasGedgaudas
    @DeividasGedgaudas 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    up up and away! Here before 1M views

  • @Meminjo
    @Meminjo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting name! Are your parents/grandparents ex-yu immigrants perchance?

    • @Retro-Calico
      @Retro-Calico  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My username?
      But haha nope, I don’t have any family from there, my name relates to an old Cold War era Radar system, it’s a period of history I’ve always had an interest in (and it’s a cool sounding word to me lol)

    • @Meminjo
      @Meminjo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Retro-Calico Oh that's pretty cool! Zaslon means screen in my native tounge of croatian and a few other slavic languages, so i thought you might have some relatives from there.
      After looking into it, it seems that it was a russian radar system, and that the name actually means "barrier", pretty cool nontheless!

  • @sidvicious4701
    @sidvicious4701 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    dope 👍

  • @_________-__________-_______
    @_________-__________-_______ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    most of this stuff on the video is completely false , i suggest everyone as a viewer actually research this and make up their own theory

    • @Retro-Calico
      @Retro-Calico  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Out of curiosity, could you explain what you think is false?

    • @_________-__________-_______
      @_________-__________-_______ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that's your work not mine @@Retro-Calico

  • @BenFoster-cx4em
    @BenFoster-cx4em 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the most boring fps ever