Thanks for the support man. After making youtube videos for five years I've gotten used to people making fun of it. But then again, I do have the power to delete comments. (evil laugh)
Interesting answer to this question. I remember the episode when Destiny found one of the Seed Ships sent out ahead of it. But even one Seed ship destroyed near the end of second season leaves me with one question; Are there more Seed ships still out there ahead of Destiny, and if so, were more found by other species not encountered before.
There would no doubt be many seed ships, maybe more than a hundred of them. Destiny caught up then overtook one seed ship but the planets they passed still had stargates. That means there is at least one seed ship still ahead of them. Seed ships would have been sent out in other directions as well, not to mention more seed ships carrying the upgraded Stargates such as the ones in the Milky Way and Pegasus galaxies.
@@jimdigitalvideo Yes, there should be at least one seed ship ahead of Destiny, maybe one with the upgraded stargates in the Mily Way and Pegasus galaxies.
My guess is that seed ships were launched at least 5000 years ahead of Destiny. Seems that they needed time to gather information as they went on and built stargates, determine the path for Destiny and least but not last, identify the "pieces of the puzzle" that Destiny needed to investigate.
The minimum figure is 2000 years. We know this because stargates were already there when the crew accidently time-traveled to the past and founded the Novus civilisation. Or at least that's how far ahead of destiny they are. They could've been send at the same time, but destiny simply doesn't rush.
@@RemusPaun There are multiple seed ships and they plant a couple of hundread stargates in each galaxy. That could take a couple of years max. As far as we know, seedships only send information about the nearby area around gate.
as to gate hierarchy oldest gate always seems to default to primary when more then one gate is at an address point. so that solves how you make sure only the gate you want gets activated. we know this from the early SG-1 eps where Russians where running there own program using the Antarctica gate which was the original Earth Gate. since as long as it was powered it would become primary. its VERY likely Destiny's gate the VERY first gate and would take primary over any other gate in the same space as it.
Awesome video! Also, I agree with you about your theories on dialing the seed ships. With that said, I really do wish we could have gotten more Stargate so that we could find the Seed Ships of the Milky Way Galaxy and of the Pegasus Galaxy.
That would be cool to see but what would be even cooler to see is if the Ancients decided to just send them out into the universe rather than just abandon them. It could potentially be a plot point of more shows.
@@michaelklim8277 I'm pretty sure that's a spoiler of the back to Pegasus/back to Destiny comics that came out a couple years after SGU ended. Rumor was one or both were based on the outlines for the seasons we never got wether they themselves are canon or not. More of a significant tease i don't think they ever payed off or I wouldn't mention it lightly.
There's actually a clue to stargate origins in continuum when they left the ori galaxy. When they leave before blowing up the mountain you can see the plans for the first stargate.
The ancients built multiple of everything they made. Of course they would build multiple Destiny class ships to explore the universe. I wouldn't doubt that the ancients would probably make some kind of automated ship building facility. The destiny had that repair robot. And the ancients really don't seem like the manual labor type of people.
I think Destiny was meant to be soo robust, that all you needed was one. For the ancients of the time it was built, it was still a huge undertaking. And Destiny is about 50 million years old, so it lasted. It was still a shot in the dark, and none of the people who built it ever expected to see the fruits of their labor. They didn't even expect answers in millions of years even, so for all they knew their civilization could have gone extinct in that time, THAT'S how big of an undertaking and shot in the dark that it was. They built the ship to last, and on a trajectory. Anything that could have naturally destroyed 1 Destiny class ship, could have destroyed a second one as well, so building 2 would be kind of like sending two ships to their potential doom, meaning you really wouldn't have much to gain by sending more than one. They always had the seeded stargates as backup. If need be, they could travel the gate network with a program, travelling from stargate to stargate to reach the distance they wanted, and even rebuild another one along the same flight path at its last known location. Technically, you'd only need to dial two stargates per galaxy, with a power boost needed to dial between galaxies. So you dial into one galaxy, dial into the other edge of that galaxy, then dial into the next galaxy. Actually a fairly short trip overall. Or with enough power, you could just literally dial one gate in each galaxy. So if you had the proper gate addresses, you could literally travel from earth to Destiny and back by just stargates and a single ZPM, in a few hours.
get what fish for here. wonder if other ships make other gates other universes. show not gone too yet. but city Atlantis was newest tenology. tenology of SGU is oldest. like new truck to day that 4 wheel drive and out correct in snow weather. model T. yes more of them out there but probley not be used as much as new stuff is. I'm wondering if mountine ship took off from ori. was similar to Destiney. like seed ship and Destiney sent out while still hide from ori in mountain then we see mountain like ship take from ori plant. investing enough wrath ship like mountains think nock on door of were got that idea from.
It's an interesting idea I haven't seen elsewhere. It stands to reason that a seedship may only have one completely operational gate aboard at any one time. With only one gate "fitting" in a star system with a bit of time to the next system there would be no need to have several completed gates at one time. If the subspace network and regular addressing is handled by the base the gate fits into and if that base isn't fitted until the hour the gate is left on a world then seedship gates would never show up in regular list though the ancients may have built in a way to direct dial particular seed ships for maintenance for instance. But bear in mind that even leaving only 2,000 years ahead of Destiny those seedships could be millions of lightyears ahead of Destiny depending how fast they are all moving.
9:15 or the gates could just be inactive until activated by installing them in their base on their planet. It sounds like a complication until you realize that it's an extremely obvious issue, so therefore it's already been dealt with.
true, the base/ramp also provides power to the gates, and we know, that stargates hooked up to a power source get priority, which is why the alpha gate at sgc got priority over the arctic gate for so long, since the dhd was low on power and frozen (presumably). so sgu-gates on ramps get priority over loose gates.
Destiny wasn’t forgotten. If it was in the database than every ancient had it in there head too. Destiny went dormant for 10,000 years between galaxies because of the population damage. This happened right before the crew arrived. 10,000 years ago when the ancients left Atlantis they couldn’t have gone to the destiny since it was a drift. Before that they may have just figured out what the message was so the ships just became redundant. Or ...
The Stargate Guy: wasn’t it talked about when the crew used their newly found robot to fix/remove the propulsion module from the back of the ship. When they did so it made Destiny much more efficient
@@jamiemease2220 Destiny far pre-dates Atlantis by 10's of millions of years. The ancients simply forgot about it or didn't really care for its purpose, especially with ascension on the mind.
well done video. my personal theory has been that there’s several gate dialing protocols, and that we’ve really only scratched the surface of how they can be used/work. but along with a dialing address being able to be auto defined by its special location that the ancients likely also made a method of hard coded dialing for at least a subset of the gates allowing for gates on moving ships like Destiny. who knows all gates may even have a hard coded address and an dynamically assigned address (similar to MAC and IP addresses) with a block of “reserved” addresses for for gates that should be reachable by a static address regardless of their location. (again, a rough similarity to DHCP) in theory this would also allow an area with more than one gate to have a primary gate for the location address but still each gate individually reachable.
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I feel like any Ancient ship with a gate could have had a 9-chev address, since that would be the easiest (though power consuming) way to call them. Maybe even... a city-ship...
I think I read somewhere that the seed ships were sending down gates on planets and passed many galaxies one being the ida galaxy and that’s how the Asgard met the ancients they had a gate send down to them and then they moved into the Milky Way
Is it possible that being unable to dial a gate that is in transit through hyperspace is why the ancients chose the ftl drive for destiny and the seed ships Did they ever explain in universe why Destiny and the seed ships don't have hyperspace drives?
seriously??????.....seed ships having seeded the Milky Way, ALL of those stargates would have had to be replaced one by one.....so it would stand to reason that there would be some original design stargates that were missed....yet, we only see milky way stargates in the milky way galaxy
Two reasons. 1) Destiny era gates are what I class to be version 1.5, they are scientific versions for the primary purpose of data gathering and storage until Destiny can come and receive the data. We never see version 1 of the gates, but it is safe to assume based upon the original design document of the Stargate system that it was simply not meant to exist. Basically the Destiny gates that were seeded were never meant to transport anyone. 2) DHD's were from what I can tell an upgrade. They were built after the Stargate's in the Milky way. They were a different material and the gates themselves were fully functional without them. What the DHD provides is a computer which is upgradable and my best guess is that they also function as a sort of virus filter. In other words, they built because of the plague. On another note, the machinery that built the Milky way DHD's also built a bunch of the Goa'uld technology along with the "place of our legacy" for the Ancients. Most likely the Goa'uld ended up with what amounts to a seed ship for the Milky way. Its a shame we never see that one.
@@RikkiCattermole Destiny was supposed to eventually have a crew since it has crew quarters and other facilities made or adapted by the Icarus crew like the dome used for a greenhouse, the observation deck, the bridge and the shuttlecraft but the Ancients forgot about it when they ascended The gates would be used by the crew to collect any supplies needed on the journey as, when the seed ship deposited the gates on the planets, they were put on habitable worlds (at the time) that had different resources
@@dragonweyr44 That doesn't change anything. Supplies would have been secondary to the Ancients. They were more interested in contacting other civilizations should they appear and receiving the data about the universe which was their primary goal. After all, how did the seed ships mine? Destiny probably had the same capability, but it was never found in the show.
@@RikkiCattermole Contacting others was never a mission parameter for Destiny, The "God" message was Look where some of the gates were located. None of them had a native sentient population (unless you count that 6 legged "cat" creature from The Hunt) you had the desert planet to get the bicarbonate for the co2 scrubbers, the planet named Hoth that was an ice planet to get water even the planet with the wrigglers gave them venom to make an anesthetic The only people they met were in space
@@dragonweyr44 I do agree I really doubt that the Ancient were looking for civilizations. The seeding process is weird, I feel like they have seed a clear path into the void and they just made "pit stop" for the crew of destiny to refuel on necessity. I don't remember during the Destiny period how far advance they were, but my gut feeling tell me that some of the seeded planet was just there because they might contain certain basic elements or material that can help maintain destiny
The replicators can fix pretty much anything and can come together and produce an insane amount of energy, so why not use the replicators to make enough energy to dial destiny, take an asgard core and a few zpms to destiny, and use the asgard matter conversion technology to produce unlimited resources for replicators to use to fix destiny, and also use the asgard matter conversion technology to make supplies for the destiny crew as well
@@TheStargateGuy well the replicators are just advanced ai computers and Dr Mckay was able to reprogram some of the replicators in the pegesus galaxy so it is possible with years of research we could completely reprogram the replicators for our needs
@@warrengouldthorpe5091 I doubt it. They are dangerous precisely because they are advanced AI. They are more-or-less equivalent to a paperclip maximizer.
They were able to dial destiny from the milky way while it was in ftl the ship caught the signal and dropped out of ftl to allow the connection so theoretically you could do the same thing with a seed ship from destiny if it had enough power to dial that far. Also theoretically destiny would have in its data base the addresses for every seed ship to be dialed if for some reason the ancients need to get to one.
All of the gates on the seed ships are in various states of manufacture, and probably only the gate at the front of the line is fully completed, as the line needs to move forward as the gates are seeded to make room to continue the manufacture process. That said, any fully functional gate can be dialed from anywhere if you are able to calculate the location, and with a subspace link and adequate distance from the gate and within range should be fair game. I say this because gates have been moved and/or added to mobile ships and work but have a different address every time they stop. A great example is destiny dialing itself only needing to add a x factor distance calculation when considering the gate address. One last thing, no seed ships would show as gateable addresses as they had a 2000 year head start and are out of range, the seed ship destiny docked with malfunctioned and was not able to continue its journey, thereby allowing destiny to catch up...
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I disagree that a seed ship could be dialed. To prevent any accidental dialing to a seed ship production line Stargate you would need to prevent the ability for wormholes to form throughout the ship itself. There would need to be some sort of diffusion field placed around it to ensure any wormholes going towards it will redirect around the ship and go to another gate close by. As long as a Stargate is fully formed, it could receive a wormhole directed towards it. Regardless of it having power or even being initialized. If it wasn't initialized it would probably destabilized and nothing rematerialize out the other end since that does require the gate to be initialized. Now with regards to being around a planet, that was a "safety" feature added to make the dialing process easier in as far as I know, every other version of the gate. Why Destiny era gates didn't have it, idk. There are many potential reasons. From being built with "cheap" materials like iron to it requiring a person to come up with the set of symbols and then map them manually. There is also the safety element to it, to limit spread of unknown entities across large amount of space.
Richard Cattermole : this was answered in SG1- the Russians had a gate for a short time. But incoming wormholes always went to the dominate gate, in that case a gate with a DHD.
@@jamiemease2220 Yes a DHD does give preference over another and it does take into account the version of the DHD in question. But that does not guarantee that a wormhole will go to that gate over another especially when something goes wrong. See the episode where the Antarctic gate was found. The gate which had a DHD but it was unpowered had a wormhole jumped to it over a gate which the wormhole had _already_ been successfully connected to _during_ the connection. This is why you don't want a Stargate to be dialed on a seed ship.
Richard Cattermole : 💩 I should see the seed ship scene again but I remember seeing gates in construction but was there any gates finished? If not, maybe they didn’t get finished until right before they got deployed. There is also the updating firmware that we know milky way gates go through but maybe that isn’t added until the gate is deposited
We've seen dial in a "deactivated" gates when SG1 dialed into them BUT I doubt you could dial out from it as seen in the season 9 episode Off The Grid Bu the thing that convinces me more that you can't dial into a seed ship is the fact that when they're on the seed ship assembly line, they're packed to close together, activate one and the kawoosh will hit another one, maybe two. If these gates are made from naquadah like the ones in the Milky Way and Pegasus galaxies are, they'll probably blow up with an equivalent blast of a nuclear bomb of some yield Of course, this is just my opinion
It is unlikely that the gates are made out of Naquadah, a very heavy element. Based upon how they get damaged (and not destroy the planet) along with their color, I think its safe to assume its something more common like iron.
@@RikkiCattermole I don't think they can be made from iron The gates are made from naguadah since they are a naturally occurring room temperature super conductor that amplifies the power of any energy it comes into contact with to an unknown degree In the 1994 movie, Ra was going to send O'Niell's nuke back to Earth with a small amount of naquadah which he said would magnify it's destructive capability 10 times Naquadah can absorb energy from any source including electricity or lightning, cold fusion and even solar energy It is also found on many planets in the Milky Way (but not Earth) so it MUST be found ll over the universe as well Iron couldn't work in a stargate
@@dragonweyr44 I think you have forgotten Orlin's Stargate that was built in Carter's basement. Which had no Naquadah in it at all. It was built using Titanium instead using only things found around her home. We don't know what material the Tollan's Stargate was made from. But given the size and color, its safe to assume that one isn't Naquadah either. My guess is Trinium since they used that heavily in their technology. Which is the right color and probably can be applied in place of Naquadah in almost every use case that the Tollan's had. However I believe it was more rare than Naquadah. I suggest iron is what the Destiny era Stargate's are made out of because of its abundance and the fact that it is a conductor. Along with the color matching up ok-ish. But that may not be the element just a good guess and there may be other elements that handle the actual dialing process. Finally you don't need the entirety of the Stargate to be made out of a conductor. In most gates it functions as a capacitor for energy being feed in, but the ones in Destiny era they were very unlikely to ever be dialed let alone long distance. The further the distance the more power you need to feed into a gate to open the wormhole.
@@RikkiCattermole I don't know if another materia; could be used to make a stable and reusable gate other than naquadah, whatever the Tollans used, it MUST have had similar qualities to naquadah but Orlin's gate WAS a one use only gate so titanium wasn't a viable option for a reusable gate (frankly, I think it was a plot convenience thing)
@@dragonweyr44 I doubt Orlin made it very well. He was under heavy time constraints and only barely managed to finish it in time. It only needed to work once and then that was it. I doubt it even took him directly to the planet he wanted. Probably connected to another planet's gate. Given time and proper equipment it probably can be done fairly easily. Although it may not have the same properties as a normal Milky way gate that we are used to like using the outside of a ring to charge it.
@@WrectumTerror I seriously doubt it maybe a system lords symbiote but not one of the B team Jaffa symbiotes.. . Even then it would be one heck of a battle
Didn't Rush say that there was three seed ships out ahead of them? Also, you wouldn't want the seed ships to be able to connect with Destiny. If they got invaded, the intruders could then invade Destiny
According to my estimates, few millions of light years per year. That might sound like fast, but Daedalos with upgraded asgard hyperdrive can travel that distance in days. Hatak is slightly slower than destiny. Significantly slower, when talking about pre SG era hataks.
We know from SGC and the Antarctic gate that one gate is the primary, we also know that two gates in the same planetary system cannot dial each other.
Grandpa paradox, they likely left inserted a Kilroy was here, So basically they’re just chasing their own tail
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Thanks for the support man. After making youtube videos for five years I've gotten used to people making fun of it. But then again, I do have the power to delete comments. (evil laugh)
Potentially, however highly unlikely. Owing to the seed-ship chasing Destiny not dialling in to get them to stop
Interesting answer to this question. I remember the episode when Destiny found one of the Seed Ships sent out ahead of it. But even one Seed ship destroyed near the end of second season leaves me with one question; Are there more Seed ships still out there ahead of Destiny, and if so, were more found by other species not encountered before.
I'm not sure how many seed ships are out there. There is probably some info in Destiny's data banks.
@@TheStargateGuy Hm, that's what I was thinking too. Too bad SGU is cancelled to know for sure.
There are several seed ships.
There would no doubt be many seed ships, maybe more than a hundred of them. Destiny caught up then overtook one seed ship but the planets they passed still had stargates. That means there is at least one seed ship still ahead of them. Seed ships would have been sent out in other directions as well, not to mention more seed ships carrying the upgraded Stargates such as the ones in the Milky Way and Pegasus galaxies.
@@jimdigitalvideo Yes, there should be at least one seed ship ahead of Destiny, maybe one with the upgraded stargates in the Mily Way and Pegasus galaxies.
My guess is that seed ships were launched at least 5000 years ahead of Destiny. Seems that they needed time to gather information as they went on and built stargates, determine the path for Destiny and least but not last, identify the "pieces of the puzzle" that Destiny needed to investigate.
5k years is a while to keep destiny on ice.
The minimum figure is 2000 years. We know this because stargates were already there when the crew accidently time-traveled to the past and founded the Novus civilisation. Or at least that's how far ahead of destiny they are. They could've been send at the same time, but destiny simply doesn't rush.
@@KohuGaly this is why I said 5000 years. It depends on how long it takes a seed ship to study a planet and plant a gate there.
@@RemusPaun There are multiple seed ships and they plant a couple of hundread stargates in each galaxy. That could take a couple of years max. As far as we know, seedships only send information about the nearby area around gate.
The seed ships didn't look like they had enough room to have an active gate.
i want SGU season 3 so bad. IMO amazon should buy SGU and make a season 3 or a reboot that keeps true to the original.
That would be interesting.
I would totally watch it i hate cliffhangers
@@srl413 It would do it be totally amazing to watch the Destiny drop out of FTL and dive into a star once again with modern CGI.
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@@phalanx3803 The CGI on destiny already looked great. Not much room for improvement.
as to gate hierarchy oldest gate always seems to default to primary when more then one gate is at an address point. so that solves how you make sure only the gate you want gets activated. we know this from the early SG-1 eps where Russians where running there own program using the Antarctica gate which was the original Earth Gate. since as long as it was powered it would become primary. its VERY likely Destiny's gate the VERY first gate and would take primary over any other gate in the same space as it.
Awesome video!
Also, I agree with you about your theories on dialing the seed ships.
With that said, I really do wish we could have gotten more Stargate so that we could find the Seed Ships of the Milky Way Galaxy and of the Pegasus Galaxy.
Yeah it would be cool to see them dormant in some nebula or something.
That would be cool to see but what would be even cooler to see is if the Ancients decided to just send them out into the universe rather than just abandon them. It could potentially be a plot point of more shows.
@@michaelklim8277 I'm pretty sure that's a spoiler of the back to Pegasus/back to Destiny comics that came out a couple years after SGU ended. Rumor was one or both were based on the outlines for the seasons we never got wether they themselves are canon or not. More of a significant tease i don't think they ever payed off or I wouldn't mention it lightly.
orlan mentions destiny when he meets SG1 for the first time
There's actually a clue to stargate origins in continuum when they left the ori galaxy. When they leave before blowing up the mountain you can see the plans for the first stargate.
The ancients built multiple of everything they made. Of course they would build multiple Destiny class ships to explore the universe.
I wouldn't doubt that the ancients would probably make some kind of automated ship building facility. The destiny had that repair robot. And the ancients really don't seem like the manual labor type of people.
exactly.
I think Destiny was meant to be soo robust, that all you needed was one. For the ancients of the time it was built, it was still a huge undertaking. And Destiny is about 50 million years old, so it lasted. It was still a shot in the dark, and none of the people who built it ever expected to see the fruits of their labor. They didn't even expect answers in millions of years even, so for all they knew their civilization could have gone extinct in that time, THAT'S how big of an undertaking and shot in the dark that it was. They built the ship to last, and on a trajectory. Anything that could have naturally destroyed 1 Destiny class ship, could have destroyed a second one as well, so building 2 would be kind of like sending two ships to their potential doom, meaning you really wouldn't have much to gain by sending more than one. They always had the seeded stargates as backup. If need be, they could travel the gate network with a program, travelling from stargate to stargate to reach the distance they wanted, and even rebuild another one along the same flight path at its last known location. Technically, you'd only need to dial two stargates per galaxy, with a power boost needed to dial between galaxies. So you dial into one galaxy, dial into the other edge of that galaxy, then dial into the next galaxy. Actually a fairly short trip overall. Or with enough power, you could just literally dial one gate in each galaxy. So if you had the proper gate addresses, you could literally travel from earth to Destiny and back by just stargates and a single ZPM, in a few hours.
get what fish for here. wonder if other ships make other gates other universes. show not gone too yet. but city Atlantis was newest tenology. tenology of SGU is oldest. like new truck to day that 4 wheel drive and out correct in snow weather. model T. yes more of them out there but probley not be used as much as new stuff is. I'm wondering if mountine ship took off from ori. was similar to Destiney. like seed ship and Destiney sent out while still hide from ori in mountain then we see mountain like ship take from ori plant. investing enough wrath ship like mountains think nock on door of were got that idea from.
It's an interesting idea I haven't seen elsewhere. It stands to reason that a seedship may only have one completely operational gate aboard at any one time. With only one gate "fitting" in a star system with a bit of time to the next system there would be no need to have several completed gates at one time. If the subspace network and regular addressing is handled by the base the gate fits into and if that base isn't fitted until the hour the gate is left on a world then seedship gates would never show up in regular list though the ancients may have built in a way to direct dial particular seed ships for maintenance for instance. But bear in mind that even leaving only 2,000 years ahead of Destiny those seedships could be millions of lightyears ahead of Destiny depending how fast they are all moving.
9:15 or the gates could just be inactive until activated by installing them in their base on their planet. It sounds like a complication until you realize that it's an extremely obvious issue, so therefore it's already been dealt with.
true, the base/ramp also provides power to the gates, and we know, that stargates hooked up to a power source get priority, which is why the alpha gate at sgc got priority over the arctic gate for so long, since the dhd was low on power and frozen (presumably). so sgu-gates on ramps get priority over loose gates.
Destiny wasn’t forgotten. If it was in the database than every ancient had it in there head too. Destiny went dormant for 10,000 years between galaxies because of the population damage. This happened right before the crew arrived. 10,000 years ago when the ancients left Atlantis they couldn’t have gone to the destiny since it was a drift. Before that they may have just figured out what the message was so the ships just became redundant. Or ...
Where is that?
The Stargate Guy: wasn’t it talked about when the crew used their newly found robot to fix/remove the propulsion module from the back of the ship. When they did so it made Destiny much more efficient
@@jamiemease2220 Destiny far pre-dates Atlantis by 10's of millions of years. The ancients simply forgot about it or didn't really care for its purpose, especially with ascension on the mind.
well done video.
my personal theory has been that there’s several gate dialing protocols, and that we’ve really only scratched the surface of how they can be used/work.
but along with a dialing address being able to be auto defined by its special location that the ancients likely also made a method of hard coded dialing for at least a subset of the gates allowing for gates on moving ships like Destiny.
who knows all gates may even have a hard coded address and an dynamically assigned address (similar to MAC and IP addresses) with a block of “reserved” addresses for for gates that should be reachable by a static address regardless of their location. (again, a rough similarity to DHCP)
in theory this would also allow an area with more than one gate to have a primary gate for the location address but still each gate individually reachable.
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yeah it's been a while. lol
I feel like any Ancient ship with a gate could have had a 9-chev address, since that would be the easiest (though power consuming) way to call them. Maybe even... a city-ship...
To finding a solution of replacement parts for Destiny, an episode of space wreck seedship would have worked. But an set up for a space villain.
I think I read somewhere that the seed ships were sending down gates on planets and passed many galaxies one being the ida galaxy and that’s how the Asgard met the ancients they had a gate send down to them and then they moved into the Milky Way
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Spooning? 😂
Is it possible that being unable to dial a gate that is in transit through hyperspace is why the ancients chose the ftl drive for destiny and the seed ships
Did they ever explain in universe why Destiny and the seed ships don't have hyperspace drives?
do you know or can explain why lots of Ancient Technology in the milky way is shown to be made of stone.
I think it was just part of the development of their technology. Stone based switching to crystal based eventually.
Aestetic choice. Only the surface of the devices are made of stone. On inside there are crystals and wires. You can see this when DHD is taken apart.
Makes me wonder if there are DHD factory ships going through space behind destiny. Didnt see many on planets in the show.
The gates featured in Stargate Universe are designed to be dialed using an Ancient Remote or Destiny's computer.
seriously??????.....seed ships having seeded the Milky Way, ALL of those stargates would have had to be replaced one by one.....so it would stand to reason that there would be some original design stargates that were missed....yet, we only see milky way stargates in the milky way galaxy
I wonder why none of the Universe gates had a DHD? You have to use a kino control pad to dial in to go to another gate or to Destiny
Two reasons.
1) Destiny era gates are what I class to be version 1.5, they are scientific versions for the primary purpose of data gathering and storage until Destiny can come and receive the data. We never see version 1 of the gates, but it is safe to assume based upon the original design document of the Stargate system that it was simply not meant to exist. Basically the Destiny gates that were seeded were never meant to transport anyone.
2) DHD's were from what I can tell an upgrade. They were built after the Stargate's in the Milky way. They were a different material and the gates themselves were fully functional without them. What the DHD provides is a computer which is upgradable and my best guess is that they also function as a sort of virus filter. In other words, they built because of the plague.
On another note, the machinery that built the Milky way DHD's also built a bunch of the Goa'uld technology along with the "place of our legacy" for the Ancients. Most likely the Goa'uld ended up with what amounts to a seed ship for the Milky way. Its a shame we never see that one.
@@RikkiCattermole Destiny was supposed to eventually have a crew since it has crew quarters and other facilities made or adapted by the Icarus crew like the dome used for a greenhouse, the observation deck, the bridge and the shuttlecraft but the Ancients forgot about it when they ascended
The gates would be used by the crew to collect any supplies needed on the journey as, when the seed ship deposited the gates on the planets, they were put on habitable worlds (at the time) that had different resources
@@dragonweyr44 That doesn't change anything.
Supplies would have been secondary to the Ancients. They were more interested in contacting other civilizations should they appear and receiving the data about the universe which was their primary goal. After all, how did the seed ships mine? Destiny probably had the same capability, but it was never found in the show.
@@RikkiCattermole Contacting others was never a mission parameter for Destiny, The "God" message was
Look where some of the gates were located. None of them had a native sentient population (unless you count that 6 legged "cat" creature from The Hunt) you had the desert planet to get the bicarbonate for the co2 scrubbers, the planet named Hoth that was an ice planet to get water even the planet with the wrigglers gave them venom to make an anesthetic
The only people they met were in space
@@dragonweyr44 I do agree I really doubt that the Ancient were looking for civilizations. The seeding process is weird, I feel like they have seed a clear path into the void and they just made "pit stop" for the crew of destiny to refuel on necessity. I don't remember during the Destiny period how far advance they were, but my gut feeling tell me that some of the seeded planet was just there because they might contain certain basic elements or material that can help maintain destiny
The replicators can fix pretty much anything and can come together and produce an insane amount of energy, so why not use the replicators to make enough energy to dial destiny, take an asgard core and a few zpms to destiny, and use the asgard matter conversion technology to produce unlimited resources for replicators to use to fix destiny, and also use the asgard matter conversion technology to make supplies for the destiny crew as well
Ummm because the replicators would take the technology and kill everyone....
@@TheStargateGuy well the replicators are just advanced ai computers and Dr Mckay was able to reprogram some of the replicators in the pegesus galaxy so it is possible with years of research we could completely reprogram the replicators for our needs
@@warrengouldthorpe5091 I doubt it. They are dangerous precisely because they are advanced AI. They are more-or-less equivalent to a paperclip maximizer.
They were able to dial destiny from the milky way while it was in ftl the ship caught the signal and dropped out of ftl to allow the connection so theoretically you could do the same thing with a seed ship from destiny if it had enough power to dial that far. Also theoretically destiny would have in its data base the addresses for every seed ship to be dialed if for some reason the ancients need to get to one.
All of the gates on the seed ships are in various states of manufacture, and probably only the gate at the front of the line is fully completed, as the line needs to move forward as the gates are seeded to make room to continue the manufacture process. That said, any fully functional gate can be dialed from anywhere if you are able to calculate the location, and with a subspace link and adequate distance from the gate and within range should be fair game. I say this because gates have been moved and/or added to mobile ships and work but have a different address every time they stop. A great example is destiny dialing itself only needing to add a x factor distance calculation when considering the gate address. One last thing, no seed ships would show as gateable addresses as they had a 2000 year head start and are out of range, the seed ship destiny docked with malfunctioned and was not able to continue its journey, thereby allowing destiny to catch up...
I wonder if the ancients ever went to Destiny to check on her every few years to see what knowledge it gained?
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How did the Ancients that came back to Atlantis Survive through deep sleep when Dr wear was old and frail
Because of the time dilation effect of travelling at .99999 speed of light
Time dilation slowed down their time considerable affectively making them time travel.
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Awesome thanks for the support man!
come to think of it......the seed ships and Destiny's real time link, kind of fits the idea of time travel
What you think about what after the 3 years sleep
They probably have a seed ship address book program on destiny, and if the destiny was in better condition it would probably have the power.
Not Blindspot its Blindside
I disagree that a seed ship could be dialed.
To prevent any accidental dialing to a seed ship production line Stargate you would need to prevent the ability for wormholes to form throughout the ship itself. There would need to be some sort of diffusion field placed around it to ensure any wormholes going towards it will redirect around the ship and go to another gate close by.
As long as a Stargate is fully formed, it could receive a wormhole directed towards it. Regardless of it having power or even being initialized. If it wasn't initialized it would probably destabilized and nothing rematerialize out the other end since that does require the gate to be initialized.
Now with regards to being around a planet, that was a "safety" feature added to make the dialing process easier in as far as I know, every other version of the gate. Why Destiny era gates didn't have it, idk. There are many potential reasons. From being built with "cheap" materials like iron to it requiring a person to come up with the set of symbols and then map them manually. There is also the safety element to it, to limit spread of unknown entities across large amount of space.
Gates need firmware updates 🤣
Richard Cattermole : this was answered in SG1- the Russians had a gate for a short time. But incoming wormholes always went to the dominate gate, in that case a gate with a DHD.
@@jamiemease2220 Yes a DHD does give preference over another and it does take into account the version of the DHD in question. But that does not guarantee that a wormhole will go to that gate over another especially when something goes wrong. See the episode where the Antarctic gate was found.
The gate which had a DHD but it was unpowered had a wormhole jumped to it over a gate which the wormhole had _already_ been successfully connected to _during_ the connection. This is why you don't want a Stargate to be dialed on a seed ship.
Or just one stargate on the ship actually being hooked up to a DHD that overrides all of the other gates on board.
Richard Cattermole : 💩 I should see the seed ship scene again but I remember seeing gates in construction but was there any gates finished? If not, maybe they didn’t get finished until right before they got deployed. There is also the updating firmware that we know milky way gates go through but maybe that isn’t added until the gate is deposited
28 minutes is a short version? xD
How does the seed ships get the stargates down to the planets?
14;24 I think you meant the blind side
it's been a while since I've seen it. lol
We've seen dial in a "deactivated" gates when SG1 dialed into them BUT I doubt you could dial out from it as seen in the season 9 episode Off The Grid
Bu the thing that convinces me more that you can't dial into a seed ship is the fact that when they're on the seed ship assembly line, they're packed to close together, activate one and the kawoosh will hit another one, maybe two.
If these gates are made from naquadah like the ones in the Milky Way and Pegasus galaxies are, they'll probably blow up with an equivalent blast of a nuclear bomb of some yield
Of course, this is just my opinion
It is unlikely that the gates are made out of Naquadah, a very heavy element. Based upon how they get damaged (and not destroy the planet) along with their color, I think its safe to assume its something more common like iron.
@@RikkiCattermole I don't think they can be made from iron
The gates are made from naguadah since they are a naturally occurring room temperature super conductor that amplifies the power of any energy it comes into contact with to an unknown degree
In the 1994 movie, Ra was going to send O'Niell's nuke back to Earth with a small amount of naquadah which he said would magnify it's destructive capability 10 times
Naquadah can absorb energy from any source including electricity or lightning, cold fusion and even solar energy
It is also found on many planets in the Milky Way (but not Earth) so it MUST be found ll over the universe as well
Iron couldn't work in a stargate
@@dragonweyr44 I think you have forgotten Orlin's Stargate that was built in Carter's basement. Which had no Naquadah in it at all. It was built using Titanium instead using only things found around her home.
We don't know what material the Tollan's Stargate was made from. But given the size and color, its safe to assume that one isn't Naquadah either. My guess is Trinium since they used that heavily in their technology. Which is the right color and probably can be applied in place of Naquadah in almost every use case that the Tollan's had. However I believe it was more rare than Naquadah.
I suggest iron is what the Destiny era Stargate's are made out of because of its abundance and the fact that it is a conductor. Along with the color matching up ok-ish. But that may not be the element just a good guess and there may be other elements that handle the actual dialing process.
Finally you don't need the entirety of the Stargate to be made out of a conductor. In most gates it functions as a capacitor for energy being feed in, but the ones in Destiny era they were very unlikely to ever be dialed let alone long distance. The further the distance the more power you need to feed into a gate to open the wormhole.
@@RikkiCattermole I don't know if another materia; could be used to make a stable and reusable gate other than naquadah, whatever the Tollans used, it MUST have had similar qualities to naquadah but Orlin's gate WAS a one use only gate so titanium wasn't a viable option for a reusable gate (frankly, I think it was a plot convenience thing)
@@dragonweyr44 I doubt Orlin made it very well. He was under heavy time constraints and only barely managed to finish it in time. It only needed to work once and then that was it. I doubt it even took him directly to the planet he wanted. Probably connected to another planet's gate.
Given time and proper equipment it probably can be done fairly easily. Although it may not have the same properties as a normal Milky way gate that we are used to like using the outside of a ring to charge it.
How do a asgard bean work?
Wraith vs gould.. . Go
Rogelio Regalado could a Gould body jack a Wraith?
@@WrectumTerror I seriously doubt it maybe a system lords symbiote but not one of the B team Jaffa symbiotes.. . Even then it would be one heck of a battle
I'll add it to the list.
Do you think the Ida galaxy has a gate system?
Didn't Rush say that there was three seed ships out ahead of them? Also, you wouldn't want the seed ships to be able to connect with Destiny. If they got invaded, the intruders could then invade Destiny
I think we will take STG to the next galaxy.
How fast is Destinys FTL ??
faster than 299 792 458 m/s, that's the only thing I can be sure of
IDK fast then light is all we got.
Maybe it’s in between a x304 and hatak
According to my estimates, few millions of light years per year. That might sound like fast, but Daedalos with upgraded asgard hyperdrive can travel that distance in days. Hatak is slightly slower than destiny. Significantly slower, when talking about pre SG era hataks.
Didn't they use the Stargate to get onto destiny? Couldn't they get onto any other ship that has a gate that same way?
The gates and destiny need to have parts in common. Why did they not try to grab parts off partly constructed gates?
Why are you wearing make up? LoL
To finding a solution of replacement parts for Destiny, an episode of space wreck seedship would have worked. But an set up for a space villain.
To finding a solution of replacement parts for Destiny, an episode of space wreck seedship would have worked. But an set up for a space villain.