Steve Kerr sees ‘a lot of value' keeping Big 3 + Should Knicks be worried about 76ers? | First Take
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- Steve Kerr sees ‘a lot of value’ keeping Big 3 + Should Knicks be worried about 76ers? | First Take
Stephen A. Smith, Brian Windhorst and Tim Legler react to Steve Kerr’s comments on the Golden State Warriors’ Big 3 and debate how worried the New York Knicks should be about Joel Embiid and the Philadelphia 76ers.
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0:00 Stephen A. weighs in on Steve Kerr’s Big 3 comments
3:50 Tim Legler’s thoughts on Kerr’s comments
5:25 Brian Windhorst thinks Klay Thompson could remain a Warrior
6:30 How worried should the Knicks be about Joel Embiid and the 76ers?
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23 million would be a significant overpay for Klay right now
13 million 🙂↕️
Someone will be stupid enough to pay him more. From listening to him he still thinks he's elite. He's not. I could be wrong, but I don't see him taking less to stay. Players are greedy now. It's not whether they can win it's whether you pay them the most money. They can to 60 and lose or 50 and win. They'll take the 60. Oddly they can't spend either, yet they choose the option for money over winning. Even when the less money is still more than they could ever spend in 10 lifetimes.
23 million for 0 points? They should match his points production if he gives you 10 give him 10 million, 12 points then 12 million. It's all on Klay's hands now
Statistics say he should make a lot more then 23 million based on his shot percentage which is wild because what we think was a bad year for klay would be great on most teams.
@@zachkapparos2373not for the contract he is asking for, with his injuries and now garbage playoff performance
“Knicks in 5” sounds like a blast from the past. I like it.
Keep dreaming 😆😆
Besides the early 70s, the Knicks past isn’t too good
Does ESPN really have to show Legler's stats when he's speaking? 😆
most mid stats too😂
Why not show Kendick Perkins stats?
Why don't they show us SAS college basketball stats
Not everybody is going to be great! That’s a good career
lmaoooooooooo i thought i was the only one to notice and chuckle at that LOL
It’s not the 2010’s anymore, we’ve seen what “the big 3” can do and not making it through the play in is a damning testament to how far they’ve fallen from the promised land
Or how much the rest of the pack improved? Sacramento was a top seed the past few seasons. Dallas & Minnesota got it together and OKC caught fire and didn’t let up. Even the rockets almost caught up and made the play in. The west really had 11 solid teams this year.
Let's be real, if not for Drays 21 games missed, they're likely in the playoffs. That being said, they still weren't winning anything this year. They definitely need change. What change that may be? I dunno, I'm not the GM and neither are you.
not a warriors fan but didnt they just win the championship 2 years ago bro talking as if they are ancient
@@erikkelley412what does that have to do with the present ?
Wiggins fall off a big problem and not having a bench like before
Draymond got suspended during Cleveland series, end up losing the series...then draymond pissed off KD and made him leave...got suspended this season for 20 plus games due to his play. Curry gotta find a new backpack to carry
Why? You lost 2 games after that with Green playing. It's not like that was game 7. It was game 5. Green lost you nothing because you had everyone for game 6 and 7 lost both. 7 on your home floor. To blame Green is stupid. Blame no one being able to stop LeBaby.
@@larrylindgren9484naw that suspension turned the series but Iggy and bogut got hurt and Steph curry was exhausted. Klay Thompson was hot that game 5 and draymond played great every home game.
Until they find someone who can do what he does.. the team is 14-15 without him this year. Everyone likes to blame Green on everything, thats like the popular thing to do. The only thing Green needs to do is figure out a way to keep his emotions in check which he did when he came back. And the suspension actually gave GS a reason to get KD. We cant look in hindsight because lets say they win 2016, they have no reason why they need to pick KD and we dont know if 17 and 18 are automatic championships because of it. People love to play this blame game when things go wrong.
I agree draymond messed this team up they just got poole right then trade him because draymond punched him this is more karma with the way they did mark Jackson facts.....
Man I forgot to mention how draymond gave Poole CTE after that punch...dude never been the same since
The young guys need more minutes but steve kerr wont do that
Klay is not a $20 million a year at this point. Whoever pays him anything above $10 million a year is a sucker and would end up regretting it.
ur poor so be quiet about rich people.
You think Grayson Allen is better than Klay right now? Serious question
@@blablablaa14I would say he is cause he’s contributing quite a bit to a playoff team in the Suns. Hopefully he keeps up that production in the playoffs but either way I think he is more valuable than Klay is to the Warriors right now, especially after that abysmal play-in game he had.
@@blablablaa14he is as of right now klay is garbage
@@blablablaa14Grayson Allen is undoubtedly better than klay right now
The Knicks have the 6th rated offensive in the league. When DiVincenzo made his 242nd three-pointer this season, he set a new franchise mark for most in one year by a Knick.
Man... I'm loving Legler's suit today.. 💦.
Klay needs to take a paycut at this point in his career that can give them a chance to bolster their roster.
Obviously you don’t understand NBA payroll
@@Xyz_Report Help me understand then.
Klay “Jackie Moon” Thompson with that headband/fro combo
@@YouCanCallMeReTrowarriors are over the luxury tax
@@KadeForever That's why they will waive CP3 and should offer Klay a lesser contract 🤦♂️
The Warriors need to keep the big 3. Pay Klay 15-20 mil, find a way to shop out Wiggins and and get a solid 3 and D guy, then get a solid big guy. They use to do this with the Spurs and Duncan took pay cuts to keep solid players around them. Warriors could do something of the same thing.
Gold comment. It's possible if the Warriors really want to do that. But I think Kerr gotta go.
I got Knicks in this series for sure 💯💯🙏🏼
nothing wrong with riding the wave and enjoying their last years but steph is still in his prime. they gotta make BIG moves all of the west has improved this is prob the most competitive western conference in decades maybe EVER
Curry is not in his prime. He's still very good by he's on the other side of prime. That roster wins nothing. Don't care how great Curry plays. But the more he scores the less other people do. There's one ball.
@@larrylindgren9484 he is still in his prime just in the final years of it
@@larrylindgren9484 lol casual
@@TopDrifter203well he definitely didn’t look in his prime Tuesday
@@larrylindgren9484 Did you forget how Curry was performing before his slight injury and after all star break? Dude is far from his prime.
Its wild that Draymond has paid over $4 million in fines from techs and suspensions.
23 mil is crazy. I’m thinking more like 15 mil
Draymond’s highlights this yr was literally flagrants and techs😂😂😂😂
we as knicks fans dont claim SAS
Back the truck up!!!
Can anyone tell me the song that plays in the end of the video?
Leave it to Stephen A to jinx the Knicks.
If Klay doesn't want 15-20 he should just go home
SAS needs to be tested my gawd lmao
Klay needa take like 50% paycut and they really need someone who cant reliably and consistently finish in the paint. Sad but they cant keep up with their own playstyle anymore. The team is wild inconsistent on the wings and they got 0 scorer in the paint. Kerr gotta recognize this and move on from draymond and all his inconsistent bums.
Klay became a 15mil player, him not realizing that is just ego. He was paid a ton to sit out with his injuries, now when you can't deliver anymore just sit back accept a fair low pay and allow this team's cap space to get some talent and grow, otherwise go chace money in a low market team that won't sniff the playoffs until you retire and don't cry about it.
If Steph feels klay is important to the team,and he wants to keep the core,he should restructure his contract to take a little less and make it work.
When has SAS ever been right?
If the warriors played in Oakland and klay get traded yes I believe they will get booed
SAS is “The Mush” from A Bronx Tale.”
Can’t wait for Sixers to win in 6 games. SA gonna be hurtin bad.
The problem isn't that the warriors roster is bad. its that their coach can only coach one method, and they haven't been able to change as they aged. The plan is still just Steph and Klay running around. They needed a new system that utilizes Kuminga and Steph in different ways to focus on their offense
that method won them 4 rings. Kerr can't control how the players shootings,turnovers. Turnovers lost alot of games for them. Problem for the warriors is the defense and turnovers,not offense.
@@lowelliswell Yeah when Klay could be that guy and Steph was better too. Now they need to move off Klay to other offensive methods and Kerr can't adjust
The Warriors roster is bad outside of Steph and Kuminga
I usually never agree with Stephen A,but he's right that Good Times show is horrible
23 million is dumb. 10 - 15 million would be fair.
Dondivichenson e outro que estaõ fazendo falta no warriors
Windy laughing at SA after the 5-game comment 🤣
There’s something valuable about an organization and owner having a reputation for taking care of their stars long term. There’s also something to be said about staying with the guys who stayed loyal to you, even if you need to take a little less. Now I doubt this happens but if even Steph came out of pocket a little to help his splash bro stay, that would be something of conversation decades after his retirement.
As a Knicks fan, don't sleep on Embiid.
Ever.
I dont agree with blowing up the team..theres potential..what i do agree with is pay cuts for klay and attitude adjustments for draymond..draymonds too important to be gettin tossed out of games..and id like it for dray to be a little more agressive on the O
draymonds attitude will never change
draymond should take a paycut as well after all the bs he caused. he might as well give the front office extra money to work with to round out the roster since we know he will never change.
Small ball was countered
If ESPN cut Stephen A's salary because McAfee has higher ratings would he be pleased about it? NO. So Klay can feel however he wants about not getting the money he feels he deserves.
Comparing stephen A and McAfee within the espn popularity context is more like Lebron and Curry than Klay and Curry. Which would mean falling off for either would still demand top money for namesake alone
He can feel it and be wrong
@TheOGGrandpa My point is that Stephen A would feel a way if he had to take a payout because his production fell off because he still would have better name recognition than McAfee. For all he's meant to ESPN, Stephen A would feel like he's deserving of better treatment just like Klay does.
It's not what he thinks he's worth. It's what he's actually worth. what he thinks doesn't or shouldn't matter. As a team they already overpaid to resign Green. Making another mistake with Klay dooms them to be 1 and done for years to come.
@larrylindgren9484 I'm not disagreeing with the financial facts. I disagree with Stephen A and his assertion that Klay doesn't have the right to feel a way about being offered less than he FEELS he's worth for what he's done for the franchise. When they were down 3-2 to the Thunder Klay won game 6 in Oklahoma. Klay blew his knee out in the Finals against Toronto after coming back early from injury. Klay guarded all the guards Curry couldn't on their title runs. He's entitled to FEEL a way about what he was offered. Stephen A FELT a way when ESPN fired him the first time
embiid had 12 points on 3-12 in the first 3 quarters then had 13 points on 3-5 in the 4th with two assists to wide open threes off doubles
Olha oh que aconteceu quando Warriors desfez de Jordan porller a falta que ele fez no warriors
Klay can't play a lick of defense and doesn't run the offense so if his shot isn't falling he's completely useless. He might as well accept 10mil a year and just stay in the bay.
As a Dubs fan, the only thing that matters to me now is seeing Steph happy at the end of his career! He’s given us everything and more. ❤
Same
If Klay doesnt improve, he a 10m/yr at best. But on the other hand, teams shouldn't be penalized by luxury tax when it's player they drafted and developed themselves!
9:25 Bro
Is the play in not part of the playoffs? I always thought the play in was part of the playoffs. I have always been confused as to why everybody always talks about the play in and the playoffs as separate things.
They have problems. Aside from the obvious issues defensively a Steph-Klay backcourt has now, they have a bigger Draymond-JK problem. They both are PFs, JK doesn’t shoot well enough from deep to be a SF, and Dray is too small to play Center full time.
Someone has to go.
12:34 can’t really say it’s unfair when Knicks had all the power to stay the 3rd seed if they wanted to.
that pic of draymod has to be edited lmao. dray is not that dark 😭
Legs… Jordan was playing at a championship level too… he, uhm, won a championship his last year in Chicago.
Think of the Chicago bulls - they killed their prospects of a 7th championship by blowing it up. I think the smart move is paying Klay a small salary and a huge bag post career as a "coach" 😂
They gave Klay a max AFTER his season ending injury. Nouf said
Fire steve kerr, or trade steph, they tryna waste curry last year’s and im not having it
Hey guys @Duuke95 is not having it!! Everybody run!!🤣
@@Albert_Sarpong you goofy ash lol
You guys won enough. Let the younger teams shine
It's done deal with it, warriors should let their trio retire there no matter how bad they are. That's how much they did for the franchise and the game.
Ridiculous
Embiid gonna fire knicks out of playoffs like slinger
Steve Kerr needs to get a defensive coach to team up with. Mike Brown out coached Steve and it showed. Warriors won 4 rings because of offense and defense. Shooting 3’s is no longer a threat anymore. Everybody caught on to Steve’s system. Warriors need to get some bigs and starters who can get 20 points a night. Keep the big 3 and add bigs and a star who can help Steph💯
Yep. That is exactly what they need. A defensive guru on his staff. Klay not being the defender he once was and Wiggins were not consistent on both sides of the ball is why this team was flustered by the good teams this year. I am a believer they dont need to be the big three any more though. It'll help both the team and Klay to move on from each other, as much as I love their chemistry together - championships and contending matters.
The teams not all that bad, they were only 5 games out of 4th. With the Draymond suspension, injuries... Losing a handful of winnable games. Under "normal" circumstances they would have been battling in 4th or threatening to challenge the top 3 record wise.... Like what was said, since the all-star break they're the 4th best record or something?
they were 4-19 against the good teams this year. 16-0 against the 6 worst in the NBA. Against everyone else they were 26-17. They aren't close. I guess if you didn't have to play anyone good and could play the 6 worst teams every game they'll be in. Yes 26-17 isn't bad. But that's 17 loses against teams that have ZERO chance of winning anything. Teams like the Hawks. They are a playoff team. My Lord they are bad, yet they made the play in which is the playoffs. You win you move on. That's the playoffs. Denver isn't going anywhere, OKC, Dallas, The Kings, NO, and Minnesota. Good luck if they keep those 3 aging players with old legs. I'll say it again Father Time never loses. He beats the snot out of aging players. Even healthy you were winning nothing. 360 million in payroll to win what? Nothing.
kerr might but the warriors investors and owners probably aren't too happy with the situation
Everyone is talking about trade Klay, cut Klay's pay. NO! Cut Draymond's play, get rid of Draymond. The punch to Poole was the downfall and end of the good times the team had.
Kerr is going to bail and head to the Spurs when Pop retires. Like a fleeing rat from a ship lol
so many people saying trade x as if other gms will just gladly trade your bad contracts for their good ones
GSW has like two or three good value contracts/players and it doesnt seem like they want to move those
this team is going to be a retirement home for the next two years
they have a few first rounders/young players they can use to make some things happen this offseason. im just not sure if they will go that route or not.
Draymond getting paid more than Klay is definitely an insult to Klay he ain't taking no 20 million 😂
Kerr wants all 3 of them no diddy
I feel like ESPN talks about the Warriors more now after they've been eliminated. And its the same conversation...move on!
Sixers in 4. Knicks have no answer for Embiid and Maxey duo. If Embiid has to sit out the Knicks have a chance
there is tremendous value if t hey sign Klay for the minimum
Disrespectful lol
@@tchrisbass5650 Klay should look in the mirror and see the guy looking back at him. That guy isn't worth much. Below average defense. Can't create his own shot. Never much passes the ball. And is a very hot or very cold shooter from 3. Players like Klay are a dime a dozen. Get one cheaper than Klay it's easy. For all his so-called greatest has he ever averaged 20 points in a season? I know for is career he's doesn't. He gets more from what he can do than for what he does. When he was a good defender, he was worth having. He's not even and average defender now. Age and injuries do that to a guy.
@@tchrisbass5650 lol im joking but you get the point. if they sign him at a good price so they have room to make moves, thats is he best case scenario.
@@larrylindgren9484 Actually he got many season averaging 20 points, so whay are you talking about?
@@tchrisbass5650Nope it’s the truth
Andrew Wiggins make 24 million. They gonna trade him, Looney, Moody, someone else with picks for a star. I see it plus they can trade cp3 or have him reconstruct his contract. Warriors gotta back up plan. At this point i wouldn't be surprised if KD wanna go back 😂😂😂
orange blue skys baby
SAS is a jinx frfr.. but I’m still confident in my Knicks
Sas is right you owe that man take a pay cut
klay to the kings lets go, off the bench 15-20 min catch and shoot roll omg. He will also be a 2 hour drive from his boat
Kings don't need Klay as he doesn't play defense.
76ers are a better fit for him. a backcourt of Maxey and Klay with Klay at most being the 3rd option would be great for him.
Why do I keep seeing "Wasting Steph's last years?" from people. This is all Steph's call. If he says break it up and do what it takes to contend then that's what they'll do and if he says I want to play out the senior circuit with my boys then that's what they'll do. He's earned that right. Would Dubs fans like another title run, of course. But I think Steph has given us all enough to cheer for to respect and appreciate him if he wants to run it back ride or die.
The time of year when we get to be enlightened by all casual fans and frontrunners in the comments section.
Stephen A smith you should listen to the entire exit interview. He did mention he is not taking about financial side of things and it needs to be worked out. Do better guys.
A day ago Tim said 76ers had no chance don’t understand
Doesn't make sense to dismantle the Big 3; simply bench klay and Draymond get pieces from free agency and trade the weak links SMH 🙄
It’s obvious the Warriors are not gonna be better next year by keeping the original 3 , Father Time has caught up to them. It was so obvious against the Kings , the speed was too much and Warriors can not play top defense for an entire game. Curry can not take over games anymore. He will still have 30, 40 pt games , his shooting has become just eye candy for the fans . It really has minimal impact against the quality teams in the league
Fans don't like to hear that but it's true. Curry used to score 35+ and GS almost always won. Now they mostly lose. Jacking up 3s is great for highlight shows but if that's all you are you aren't winning much. Over the last 3 years GS has been the 10th best in the West and I'm being kind. One and done twice and another a 7-game series they were lucky Fox got hurt or they'd have lost than one. They aren't close to anything. And have zero money to spend and zero draft capital to use. But they might have 3 old players getting them 45ish wins a year and a 1 and done in the playoffs.
It's time for Golden's state to rebuild trade green and Klay
Taking any of the players with household names in the actual playoffs over the entire Garbage State "Cringe 3"
Can't take another 2 years, $20+ mil of Klay. Please no.
Steph: "its just big me"
Klay shouldn't even want all that money. He knows he aint worth that much just take a 3 year 45 mil or something like that and get more help to try to win another ring for u n curry n dray
I think the warriors got a huge trade coming in the off-season
At the end of the day the first thing they are gonna do is ask Steph curry what he wants to do. If he says keep Klay they will keep Klay. If he says trade Wiggins and CP3 and let Klay go they will.
No one's freely looking to make the Golden State Warriors better.The only way I can see that happening is if a high expectation team loses in the playoffs that will be willing to trade.Or are you getting some younger guys that would forward to posting with the like of Curry.
Warriors só faz burrada WiigginsNaõ
ayo everyone talking about klay, yea I get it he had a bad game but WIGGINS GOTTTA GO FOR SURE NO MATTER WHAT BYE WIGGS TY FOR UR CONTRIBUTION BUT CYA PAL
Any other genius thought he was putting on for Ice Cube 😅?
I’d keep klay. Get rid of cp3. Choose between moody or podz. (One has to go) and put one of them with wiggins and ship em out.. wiggins is killing the team. He ain’t been good since that finals run… so try to swap them for some sort of big man that is skilled offence and defensive wise.. also could maybe even look for a new shooting guard? Maybe even someone like d murray from the hawks but idk what they can offer for him. But yeh. I would run it back with klay for the next season and just see what happens.. but clean out the rest of the team!
No team wants Wiggins contract. It's not like it's 1 year and it's gone. He had one good run in the playoffs I'll give him that. But every other year he's been bad. Why would anyone want the contract for a bad player. All you want is a skilled big man with defense. Every team in the NBA wants that. Get in line. Murray doesn't fit. Murray is good when he's the man. He's not the man in GS. He plays poorly in the roll. It's why it doesn't work with the Hawks. With Young, Murray is average at best. Without him he's pretty good. Murray on GS is the same. You are just exchanging Young for Curry. Both have the ball, Murray doesn't.
@@larrylindgren9484 Steph is way better off ball than Trae. Murray with GS would be a much better fit, although that's not quite what they need.
If you give a player $300M, what y’all think the owners making.. They be killing me talking about the Golden State Luxury Taxes… Owners making the money plus more….
It's the way the tax hurts you. It's not just the money. Exemptions and trade salary matches are two. Signing other players. It's not just the money. It kills you in other ways. 3 max players are death now the way the cap rules are written. Money to billionaire is free. The cap rules can't be bought out. They hurt.
Stephen A for dawmmmm boy wear a dan tie! What’s up with you? 😂
The Warriors GM needs to make business decisions based on data and common sense, not emotion and nostalgia. Kerr is too emotionally attached to the core group, who are getting older and are past their primes. The Warriors need to get younger and it would make sense to at least explore trading Klay, Draymond, Wiggins, etc. This is business.
I’m thinking like 10 million max. Hopefully Klay can still sleep at night with such a low paying salary 😂
Lay lack self awareness
Its crazy they are stacked and didnt make playoffs. Get rid of Klay and Andrew
Klay acts like such a primadonna. Look, say what you want about Westbrook, but he is playing for a veteran minimum and does not find it disrespectful. Klay needs to accept that he is not longer who he was. Take a pay cut and compete for a championship to keep your legacy going.
Theyre going to keep the 3. If Draymond can knock out teammates and cause Steph to cry on the court and stay, Theyre keeping Klay and all of his bricklaying ways
76ers in 6
They sleeping on maxey and Tobias Harris
They are HOME largely because of Draymond. He's the poster child for not learning from your mistakes
FACTS KNICKS IN 5 babe