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  • This was insane, I cannot believe they thought their work was acceptable...
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  • @aarontrupiano9328
    @aarontrupiano9328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +399

    "prevent the air from rubbing out on the box" made me laugh

    • @frizzletits8511
      @frizzletits8511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Shit had me hounding at work

    • @THEBRAINANAYTOR
      @THEBRAINANAYTOR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Who else read this right as he said it?

    • @timothystevenson7907
      @timothystevenson7907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I read this comment before watching. Still made me laugh so hard

    • @PWN_Nation
      @PWN_Nation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I bet the restaurant didn't know they're paying licensed contractor prices for apprentice-level work.

    • @djtongi
      @djtongi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      c'mon dude, that's a serious problem! Shorted out air due to rubbing out is the cause for many air outages...

  • @cvr24
    @cvr24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    The electricians get away with such shoddy work because they know the inspector will never go up on the roof when it's 100+F

    • @throttlebottle5906
      @throttlebottle5906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      typically, repair work like that would never be inspected anyway. adding a whole RTU and new power feed, probably.
      here I've seen half of buildings rewired and or tons of new equipment and feeders ran, no permit in site and no inspections. residential and commercial both.

    • @MarkCarpenterHVAC-me2jg
      @MarkCarpenterHVAC-me2jg ปีที่แล้ว

      On new construction or Tennant Improvement [TI] jobs, don't for one minute think those inspector's won't get up there in that heat and take the time to school while you stand in it.

    • @danielduplessis1582
      @danielduplessis1582 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nearly every installation we do the electrician messes it up. I now do all the cable trays and brackets for the electrician ,he runs his cables and terminates ,we then tie off cables neatly and we also make sure the unit it earthered with a separate earth wire..... Unfortunately the guys just dont like neat things anymore...

    • @castirondude
      @castirondude 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is why requiring licensing for contractors is kind of pointless. You can do a good job if you want to.

  • @whodat90
    @whodat90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    It’s incredibly subtle but I’m getting the tiniest edge of unhappiness from you in this video.

    • @HVACRVIDEOS
      @HVACRVIDEOS  2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Damn I'm surprised you caught that, I was really trying to bottle up my emotions.... 🤣

    • @analogmoz
      @analogmoz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bikerguy, don't over-interpret. I think Chris is actually quite pleased in this video.

  • @jerrykorman7770
    @jerrykorman7770 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    “Prevent the air from rubbing out on the box.”
    Chris, that is Master Level sarcasm. You are becoming sarcaholic like me

  • @squirrelwood8008
    @squirrelwood8008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +200

    This "Electrician" should be stripped of their job and sent back to school for a proper education in all things electric. This is not just ridiculous, this is outright dumb and dangerous.

    • @achannelwithnopurpose1977
      @achannelwithnopurpose1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I don’t even think its a real electrician that did that. Service is too bad for me to believe they were even certified.

    • @johnbell6956
      @johnbell6956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      What a crap job, but legit install for the Fly by Night Handyman Service LLC. Lowest price guaranteed. Cash and carry.

    • @camifnisil2684
      @camifnisil2684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Jeez I haven't had any electrical training since highschool and I could do a better job than that 'electric chair' technician. I've done electrical work in my house many times.

    • @dr00andrew
      @dr00andrew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      more than likely it was just a body to fill the position. every company nowadays seem to be hiring and due to desperation for help, they likely aren't too picky with peoples backgrounds and experience

    • @LuciferMorningstar-ix3lb
      @LuciferMorningstar-ix3lb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@camifnisil2684 but did you die?

  • @francisbriggs76
    @francisbriggs76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    Totally agree. As an Electrician myself I would be embarrassed to do such a job. Perhaps different electricians should be used.

    • @THEBRAINANAYTOR
      @THEBRAINANAYTOR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I’m cringing because I am too a commercial electrician who does ac change outs on Publix super markets. This is trash ass work.

    • @francisbriggs76
      @francisbriggs76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@THEBRAINANAYTOR
      It sure is! Guys like that do a disservice to our trade.

    • @ATSNorthernMI
      @ATSNorthernMI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@THEBRAINANAYTOR We seen a commercial taco bell restaurant that that so much flex installed, it looked like a nasa experiment in the attic, they didn't even connect the canopy jelly jar lights in the drive thru, had wires going into the back of the time clock/outdoor lighting contactor right into the wall space with no conduit, just electrical taped the knockout to keep the wires from chaffing LOL. Everything was crooked and we were called out to find out why the canopy lights didn't work and spent 2 minutes going, no power. This was after we spent 10 minutes doing a walkthrough with the manager and he claimed the lights worked just fine until they didn't.

    • @sharkey086
      @sharkey086 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@gquin9487 agreed, as much as I wouldn't want to see someone lose their job. In a situation like this where severe property damage and a potential for loss of life due to that person's ignorance and laziness, changes that feeling.

    • @vincentschumann937
      @vincentschumann937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      im still in training and i'd get my head lopped off by my instructor if i commited such atrocities like HOW

  • @arthouston7361
    @arthouston7361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I would be telling them that I can't do anything with that unit until a new electrician comes and fixes this mess. As in, "I''m not touching that until it is corrected. Period."

    • @kaptaintrips
      @kaptaintrips 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Chris traveled 2.5 hrs to get there. He demonstrated why this place is willing to pay windshield time for himin this frustrating video.

    • @arthouston7361
      @arthouston7361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@kaptaintrips We all make decisions in this business. I am just sharing mine.

    • @Nighthawke70
      @Nighthawke70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kaptaintrips He eats the job for his survival.

    • @vincentgrueter7759
      @vincentgrueter7759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I understand what you're saying. But as Chris has said before, if he doesn't do it they will hire someone else who will. And being that they are probably a returning customer, it would suck to lose them over something like that. You can pretty much garuntee that will happen, imagine telling a customer they need to pay someone else to redo the electrical that they just paid for and waited 3 weeks to get done.

    • @arthouston7361
      @arthouston7361 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vincentgrueter7759 I’m confused. Why isn’t losing a lousy customer a good thing?

  • @LazyboyLP
    @LazyboyLP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    I'm an electrician myself. In Germany though, but that's not the matter. I know we Germans probably have stricter standards, but in any case, watching the beginning of the video was hard for me because everything that could've been done wrong was done wrong. I mean, they fixed a grounding wire with a goddam screw.
    As for your solution to this. I can only speak from German standards, we always use Ring Terminals combined with spring and teethed washers. If there is no thread, we use self securing nuts.
    And for my perspective on everything else (also speaking German standards here):
    1. Blank wires on the roof: Depending on how they were cut, they can have spiky ends, causing injury. Since they seemed pretty thick, that's even more dangerous.
    2. Conduits on the roof: Tripping hazard
    3. Hole towards the main switch: Absolutely disgusting.
    4. Hole for the conduit: See above
    5. Termination on the Main switch: Now, this will sound very German, since I only know how it should be over here. Normally, every main switch still needs protection from touching. To terminate main switches over here, they must be opened and not only the case where they are seated. That's because over here, you always assume that there are dumb people around the machines.
    In any way, the electrical work was a disgrace to all electricians who take their job seriously. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. I'll answer. Even if you just want to know about probable differences in electrical code.

    • @jrmcferren
      @jrmcferren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That ground screw the "electricians" put in was no where near legal. Even if it was a single strand like in a lighting circuit, you could still get them on a technicality.

    • @mart43
      @mart43 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same things apply here in The Netherlands (and I think most of northern Europe.) Also I always find it weird that Americans don't use ferrules on all the cables and don't use conduit in control panels.

    • @Getle98
      @Getle98 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lonewolf are you german?

    • @Bhoune91
      @Bhoune91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This unit is in our German standards not even official grounded. The ground has to be directly connected from the machine down to the main panel. To cut the ground and to use the conduit as a ground isn't save enough if there's an hazardous situation in or at this unit. Every connection is an failure point, that's why you always should run the ground directly to the main panel.
      You don't even know, if this conduit has any ground connection at the other end at all. That's extremely dangerous.
      As an electrician, it's hurts to see your video.

    • @Rayfanz1
      @Rayfanz1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      18yrs working for a German car brand in service, but only as an advisor and driver. (I’m one of those American snobs that only drives German, but truly because of safety first and foremost). I trust German cars with my life, every time I drive. Sure, some stereotypes are true about over-engineering and skimping the basics, not understanding the US market, etc. But I truly trust my life inside a German car, especially if it is BUILT in Germany. I have a bit less faith in long-term reliability and durability on the ones made in other countries, from my own experience, with exceptions here and there.
      I’m a very proud Texan and American, but y’all in Germany have it down for safety in all things, electrical, hvac, cars, and so on.

  • @danielduplessis1582
    @danielduplessis1582 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Well done Sir. You went the extra mile for your customer but the most important thing is you did the best for our trade. Keep it up.....

  • @billthomas6296
    @billthomas6296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I am 60 years old and retired from my plumbing business. Back when I was working I would get so upset to come across this kind of laziness. You remind me of my self and the work ethics I held. Today the common person wants a paycheck for nothing. Keep up the good work, love your videos.

  • @Robert-S-
    @Robert-S- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    It sucks so hard when you recommend hiring a specialized trade to do the work, and that company does a worse job than you could have done yourself. Always seems to happen when you try to do the right thing.

    • @50_foot_punch99
      @50_foot_punch99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brother ain't that the truth

    • @MMCUSN
      @MMCUSN 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Question with boldness. If you see something that doesn't look right chances are, it's not. These owners need to stop being so gullible and lazy.

  • @Tokaisho1
    @Tokaisho1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +200

    You should definitely become qualified on paper as an electrician yourself and run your own cable runs like this for units where necessary, from this video alone I can tell you have what it takes.

    • @Bryan-Hensley
      @Bryan-Hensley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I'm the same as him..I hire electricians. Mainly because it is less liability my company takes..

    • @ATSNorthernMI
      @ATSNorthernMI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Usually requires you to start out as an apprentice for 8000 hours on the job training to get your journeyman's and 1000 hour class time on top of it. Then you have to take an exam and work another 2000 hours at not at least 10000 total hours on the job to get your masters and be able to get a electrical contracting license. Many companies might just hire a master electrician but they want 100k a year and 2 months of paid vacation, optical, dental, and health insurance.

    • @TheWilber09
      @TheWilber09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ATSNorthernMI sounds like a bargain for the company vs the amount of training required.

    • @kaptaintrips
      @kaptaintrips 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The out take is too kind. Why would the electrician need to kill power to the entire building? Surely there was a sub panel that could be turned off. Even if not so, any company worth their salt would have the job done with bo power in under an hour...
      Don't make excuses for shoddy workmanship. Don't excuse what exasperated you when arriving on the site and eye balling shit work.
      Good on you not to call this company out on media by name but again, zero excuses.
      Please stop trying to justify in the out take.

    • @Tokaisho1
      @Tokaisho1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ATSNorthernMI The electrician who did the job on this roof in this video doesn't seem like the type to have met all those criteria lol

  • @Badtxv
    @Badtxv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    As much as I want to say I'm surprised by that, I'm not. It sucks because depending on the customer they don't give 2 shits as long as the price is good. Majority won't see the possible implications of poor workmanship like this, and since you found it and fixed it prior to major issues like water damage they'll be like "awesome thanks" and still use the same people without holding anyone accountable

    • @christopherkidwell9817
      @christopherkidwell9817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      That is why we have electrical code and code inspectors. If one of those inspectors came out and saw this... they would have a literal b-fit over it and would be calling up the electrician who did that and threatening them with criminal charges for endangering people.

    • @gam3kid
      @gam3kid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It's probably messed up but calling the inspector to check this work would be a good idea to alert the company on their illegal work

    • @jerrykorman7770
      @jerrykorman7770 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I wish you were wrong …. but I’ve seen it far too often
      Nothing surprises me anymore

    • @kaptaintrips
      @kaptaintrips 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@christopherkidwell9817 where do you live? Wish we had code enforcement here like we did many years ago.

    • @kaptaintrips
      @kaptaintrips 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@gam3kid Not messed up by any stretch of the imagination. This company is the problem. Zero excuses

  • @jacchilax1002
    @jacchilax1002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You missed one problem: the wire boot acting as a rain bucket. The boot should make for a nice funnel into the building.

    • @dashcamandy2242
      @dashcamandy2242 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's how I recognized the unit at the very beginning. I remembered the "dual funnels."

  • @heavydiesel
    @heavydiesel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Time for you to set up an electrical division in your company!

  • @KelvinGreyheart
    @KelvinGreyheart หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For holes like that, keep a slab of polycarbonate shoved between a couple of shelves in the van somewhere. Quarter inch thick poly carb is cheap, and you can rough cut it with basically any power tool like a 3 inch cutoff, Sawzall, or a drill with a hole saw. You can also score it deeply and crack it with a good knife on any straight metal edge if you're desperate. Alternatively, keep a chunk of thin marine plywood on hand. Marine plywood is about as much epoxy as it is wood, so it's not going to warp or rot.
    Regardless of what you chose, silicone the hell out of it and it'll last for a decade.
    Half inch marine plywood with a few spacers is also a great way to bodge together a mounting solution for various things.

  • @TheRenaissanceBuilder
    @TheRenaissanceBuilder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    For whatever its worth, when wires burn up at joints its due to resistance (such as corrosion or loose connection) causing heat at that spot, the heat then causes more resistance and the problem dominos. So normally when wires are burnt at just one spot its due to the wire not the load.

    • @whitcwa
      @whitcwa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Exactly. Even 10 milliohm of resistance will dissipate 49 W if 70A are flowing through it. That much power in a small area can melt copper. A standard 100A current shunt is less than 1 milliohm.

    • @kaptaintrips
      @kaptaintrips 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@fluke196c FLIR for the won!

    • @RP-mt6bp
      @RP-mt6bp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It can be a winding wire (as well). Am I wrong?

  • @MelvinTheGrate
    @MelvinTheGrate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    You mentioned that there was some flex conduit going back to the panel. That's not carrying an acceptable ground. A separate grounding wire needs to be run. I saw a video about a residential AC outdoor unit where a grounding wire was not run through the flex whip. The compressor developed an internal short to "ground", which was just through the metal in the flex. That length of flex had enough resistance that the breaker did not trip, and the flex just heated up and burned the outer jacket and internal wires to a crisp. The only thing that kept it from starting a fire was being outside and not in direct contact with anything flammable.

    • @throttlebottle5906
      @throttlebottle5906 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just caught that at the video end too and that's correct, it's generally not allowed, although there's some code buried that allows is at like 20amps or less and 6 foot max length.

  • @MichaelHartGSP
    @MichaelHartGSP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I really enjoy your videos. I currently teach HVAC in the military and I use some of your techniques to help my airmen understand. I have worked in the field as a civilian and as military and have meet very few people who can explain things as well as you. Keep up the great work!

  • @EyebrowsMahoney
    @EyebrowsMahoney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Your reaction is exactly the same reaction I would have had. I hate dogging people but I absolutely cannot stand willful incompetence. No one cares about quality of work (it seems more common today) and sure part of it comes down to a customer's willingness to pay for quality work. But at the end of the day, there are some things that you absolutely cannot skimp on, and that includes electric and gas fittings!
    This is why I prefer to do everything myself. Because then I know it's done right. I'm not perfect, but I know I'm not one for shortcuts and shoddy workmanship.

  • @MannMade
    @MannMade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    A ground screw has to be a machine screw fastened in an approved location. Also I believe you can not use conduit for grounding at that ampacity and that ground looks under sized as well. Wire size should be #3 copper with a #8 copper ground. NEC 310.15(b16) for wire ampacity ratings.

    • @kaptaintrips
      @kaptaintrips 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, ●gage wire is the humor of this vid. Oversized wire ran in piss poor fashion, no proper bushing, ground nor knock out not to mention reversed phase and the seal tight conduit causing interference to pannels to boot... whaow!

    • @wd8557
      @wd8557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The guy that taught me refrigeration was from Germany. He went down a list of comparing things from Germany to America and it was amazing.

    • @slimh2080
      @slimh2080 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love watching this guys videos, But in reality I would advise that he should remove this video stat! what people don't understand is, NEC is Law.. states can enhance safety not take away from it. he should have called back out the electricians and let the potential "Heat" (pun intended) liability to fall with them.

    • @16vSciroccoboi
      @16vSciroccoboi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What's funny is a lot of new services and enclosures come with ground lugs/bond lugs that aren't any different thread than a self tapping sheet metal screw and they cut their own threads.
      There is no limit to the ampacity of emt for size technically. The code is ambiguous in it's wording, but basically it can be a ground conductor for any circuit installed in it.
      This emt would have zero problem clearing the fault current. The ground wire mess is a problem, though it's hard to tell since he said that's 1/0 copper it could actually be #8 for the ground even though nothing else is proper in the install.

  • @Minivan3023
    @Minivan3023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Holy moly, I would've been cursing up a storm on that roof. I hate having to clean up other people's mess at work. Don't know why it is so hard to do things correctly.

  • @Coffreek
    @Coffreek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As a Sparky, I feel like I ought to apologize on behalf of my trade.
    The thing that motivates me to do good work is remembering that if somebody is hurt or killed by my negligence, their family can take everything I have.
    Yes, I know, Section 110.12 shouldn't need any teeth behind it except the ones your own pride has, but when it's 110 on the roof, it helps to remember.

  • @turbokatzenburg5732
    @turbokatzenburg5732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The flex in the attic will heat up like a giant toaster coil under a ground fault and will not trip a 100a breaker. You cannot use flex as a gounding means.
    That exact situation caused a serious fire at a restaurant that my sister and brother in law was at one night. My sister noticed the lights flickering while she was in the restroom, and just as she got back to the table the staff was evacuating the building. The lights went out and flames broke through the ceiling just before they got out of the door.

  • @hmrody
    @hmrody ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You, sir, carry yourself as a professional and craftmanship and doing the job right is so very important. Great job!

  • @vburke1
    @vburke1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The metallic conduit is grounded to protect against shorts to the conduit, I'm pretty sure it's NOT supposed to be carrying the ground to the end equipment.

    • @16vSciroccoboi
      @16vSciroccoboi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      EMT is 100 percent allowed to be used as the EGC as long as it's properly bonded and whatnot at the service end. It's probably a better ground conductor than a dedicated ground wire because it's huge surface area means it can carry tons of current without overheating or being blown apart when clearing a fault.

    • @vburke1
      @vburke1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@16vSciroccoboi My bad, you are correct on that. I will question whether drilling a hole in an LB and using a screw with an undersized head to (partially) hold down stranded wire with no terminal constitutes an acceptable ground. I'll lay you money whoever put it together that way probably never tested the integrity of the conduit either. They'd have been FAR better off leaving the green wire. Oh, btw, if you're overheating or blowing apart the ground wire on fault, you're doing something wrong.The ground isn't supposed to carry tons of current, it's supposed to carry fault current long enough to trip the over current protection device.

    • @16vSciroccoboi
      @16vSciroccoboi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vburke1 I wasn't debating the merits of this hack jobs work, just saying that EMT makes a good ground conductor.
      Large amounts of fault current can and do erode EGCs though. I've encountered several circuits with even properly sized and installed ground conductors that have been blown apart because the owner/tenant kept just re setting the breaker.

  • @robertspadezhinton
    @robertspadezhinton 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Calm down young man you'll give your self an aneurysm. You are cool dude. I really love your videos

  • @Nyarly_Relyeh
    @Nyarly_Relyeh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    - It's 113 degrees in the shade today!
    - So, keep out of the shade.

  • @phil6629
    @phil6629 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with the frustration. We might have shared the same "electrician". I had a 3 phase demand meter stop working. It was still under warranty. The original installer sent someone out to replace it. It only needed to be swapped out with the replacement. The "electrician", changed the conduit, replaced conductors, reversed the phases, and removed 2 unrelated breaker from the panel, that went to our outdoor security lighting. The ground was covered in debris, wire pieces, zip ties, cut off terminals, and tape. My service call was for the inop security lights, and when I arrived and saw this mess, I called the cops and made a report for vandalism. Also, the work was untested, because the replacement never went online, and he never announced his presence or made contact with the POC, nor was anything inspected or reviewed. I took 2 more visits to correct and repair the damage that he created, and still did not pick up his garbage. This contractor has now been blacklisted from bidding on any future contracts. Unprofessional, unskilled, untrained, and DANGEROUS worker! Even My 10yo son would never have done such a poor job.

  • @kingofl337
    @kingofl337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'd call the local inspector and have them take a look. See if you can get their license pulled. At least show the customer.

  • @SproutyPottedPlant
    @SproutyPottedPlant 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It sounds lovely when all the stages start up and hearing those beefy compressors humming away happily 😊👍

  • @ironwolf6849
    @ironwolf6849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You should get the inspector out to check it out and get the guys credentials. He can get a super fine.

    • @Tsnor150
      @Tsnor150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He did better. When the guys he knows at the shop that did the work see this video they are going to roast the guy who did it. Not just ugly work, actively unsafe work.

  • @MaxStax1
    @MaxStax1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I honestly don't know how you can work in that heat all day. I guess it's a dry heat, but still, you must be super human,lol. You never mention how much work it is to carry all your stuff on to the roof ,ha. You are awesome i swear. I've been doing HVACR since the 80's, Love your videos!

    • @NightmareQueenJune
      @NightmareQueenJune 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      We had 35°C (95°F) here in Germany today and I was absolutely dying at work. Like physically unwell. Seeing him regularly work at >100°F is completely nuts to me.

    • @MaxStax1
      @MaxStax1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I take that back you Have showed how to make it easier to bring stuff up. i wish I had someone like you back in the day. i used to go to GE tech school in Louisville,Kentucky (Cincinnati) as i was a factory tech for them for a number of years.Fun Fact: they had a converted GE refrigerator turned into a keg cooler outside the classroom, ha, and yea guys would draw a beer at 8AM. lol hey i waited till after lunch.ha

  • @JamesBarnes-xd9bj
    @JamesBarnes-xd9bj หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don’t look in the attic!
    Pandoras Box
    “Polishing a terd” I love it!!!

  • @markbeiser
    @markbeiser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yesterday I couldn't spell electrocian, today I are one!🤣
    I'm hyper vigilant about leaving debris on membrane roofs, so even just seeing it as you walked up triggered a facial tic...

  • @dreiser92626
    @dreiser92626 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for sharing, I can attest to what you have dealt with. I enjoy your videos.

  • @dant4802
    @dant4802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Looks like Hack and Moe stopped by

  • @ParabellumX
    @ParabellumX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That unused bushing was left there for a reason!
    When I figure that reason out, I'll let you know. 🤣

  • @shadowdemon7770
    @shadowdemon7770 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:00 you think he's done complaining lol and then he gets so pissed that he just can't handle it. 🤣 I understand his frustration. I feel it

  • @tonymorrison9313
    @tonymorrison9313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m a commercial refrigeration technician. I add phase monitors to older systems like the ones shown in this video. This will protect the compressor in the event of a bad contactor or loss of phase on one leg.

  • @trainexpo1971
    @trainexpo1971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's funny. I'm not an ac/heat engineer. But I like watching ur videos. They are really interesting to because u take a lot of time to explain what the problem is and how to fix it. U have a way of explaining like we r there with you. I think it is really cool. Keep up with the awesome videos and jobs that you do. Stay safe. Take care. Kenny.

  • @rt-1859
    @rt-1859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Early in the video - "We're literally in the Lowe's parking lot" Later in the video - "we ran over to Home Depot to get an LP". I only go to Lowes to remind myself why I don't like going to Lowes...

    • @ShaunPuzon
      @ShaunPuzon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂🤣🤣

    • @chris76-01
      @chris76-01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol. I used to think lowes was good but now not as much. home depot usually has a better selection. It just depends on what you need and who has it.

    • @rt-1859
      @rt-1859 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Game Plays 1230 Or anything else I've ever needed in a hurry...

  • @newmoon54
    @newmoon54 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some of the best concisely orated videos on TH-cam! Keep them coming!!!

  • @kathrynwhitby9799
    @kathrynwhitby9799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    i'm going to hazard a guess that the sparky that did this used the old ground wire as a draw tape for the new cabling.

    • @crappyeditor
      @crappyeditor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Probably but its easy enough to add a ground into the pull at the same time.

    • @lwilton
      @lwilton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crappyeditor Since they used ridiculously oversized wire, there might not have been room in the conduit for a ground wire. :-(

    • @kaptaintrips
      @kaptaintrips 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lwilton Guess the guy doesnt keep #2 or even #10 wire on his truck. (Don't use 10 gage for 80-100 amps, kids. That was just a joke.)

    • @lwilton
      @lwilton 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kaptaintrips I've seen a 100 foot run of #10 on a double 50A breaker. :-(

  • @adjithwk257
    @adjithwk257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Title of the video, oh my god me too. Because sometimes the only way to get something done right is to do it yourself even though you should be delegating.

  • @jermayemoshee2840
    @jermayemoshee2840 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man, my buddy told me about your videos he’s been doing commercial hvac & refrigeration for a year we worked at the same company we both quit he quit 1yr sooner then I did, I’ve been a residential hvac tech for 7yrs, I quit my current job as of today I’m done working there, and Monday I go to my new job to go work commercial hvac & refrigeration and I’ve been watching your videos for about month now, the amount of information & advice you have given me is substantial and gives me ALOT more confidence making the switch in my career, love the hats I’m getting one soon to help ya out, since you have helped me thanks man.

  • @morriscarter2914
    @morriscarter2914 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As an electrical contractor for 30 years I totally agree with you. Bosses fault for not training and following up on the jobs. Was the 3 pole breaker that was the original disconnect rated to be fed from the bottom with the load on top?

  • @thereefaholic
    @thereefaholic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a PM here is some of the things I hear from subs. “That’s a laborers job to clean up”., “that’s a change order because you provided no written scope”, “that’s an existing condition”. That’s why as a home owner I do everything myself…

  • @matthewgibbs9903
    @matthewgibbs9903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Go for it, full send! There are too many good electricians that take pride in their work that would never dream of leaving a hot pile of garbage like that. When technicians in any field do shoddy work like that, they should be called out so hopefully the ones that do good work will get the job next time allowing the trade to continue to be respected.

  • @shawnmurdock2292
    @shawnmurdock2292 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recently have become an HVAC technician for a company in the Midwest and I enjoy your videos I've picked up a lot of good tips and tricks that help make my life easier I thank you so much keep putting out the good content

  • @mikejohnson3873
    @mikejohnson3873 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They hired a scab, not a real electrician.
    As a real electrician, I’m glad you are calling out this work so hard. This absolutely has budget handyman written all over it.

  • @danpresson
    @danpresson ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You hate to see shoddy work it makes your life not easy awesome video

  • @fluffyblue4006
    @fluffyblue4006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    If that HVAC unit develops a fault that creates a path to ground, then that conduit potentially needs to deal with a current of up to 100 Amps. If that happens, that conduit will get so hot that it melts everything in it and around it. I mean, if the total resistance of the short to ground is a bit higher than 2 Ohms, the breaker won't trip and something will start burning for sure.
    Ground connection should be same gauge as the power wires. Just screwing it to a piece of conduit that is probably grounded via fittings, a length of pipe, some more fittings, a length of flex, another fitting and finally, the case of the main panel, well, that is not acceptable.

    • @16vSciroccoboi
      @16vSciroccoboi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The conduit will have zero issues carrying that amount of current back to ground and it's perfectly legal to use it to do so as long as it's properly bonded at the service end and along it's length. Ground wires also absolutely do not need to be the same size as current carrying conductors. They clear faults long enough for the overcurrent protection to trip, they can be much smaller and still function properly.
      The issues with this particular installation are clear, but there's nothing wrong with using EMT as a ground conductor. And it's definitely not going to get hot enough to melt anything. It wouldn't even get warm to the touch.

  • @outseeker
    @outseeker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol the sarcasm is strong in this one! :D pleased to hear my first language in use

  • @richardstephens3327
    @richardstephens3327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a former electrician and the father of a teenager who is hoping to enter an electrical apprenticeship soon I am ashamed for that level of work. The amount of damage to the wires and the lack of forethought scares me.

  • @TylerTheIT
    @TylerTheIT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am not an HVAC guy. Not even close. I am an IT guy. But I for some reason find your videos really interesting. I've probably watched about 20 of them in the last couple of weeks. It might be your personality and style of explaining things which is similar to mine. Keep it up!

  • @aeternusdoleo4531
    @aeternusdoleo4531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Opening that electrical panel is going to be super easy! Barely an inconvenience!

  • @david0fc
    @david0fc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it! It is always good to hear a good old rant.

  • @sambert96
    @sambert96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was working on that exact model and had the vfd explode on me. There was multiple rubouts from the vfd to the IFM. It shot shit across the roof. Never found a short to ground and powered the breaker back on. As soon as the blower spinned up it went. Now I always check for rubouts even if I don't have a short to ground on the meter

    • @kaptaintrips
      @kaptaintrips 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could you please elaborate on what a rub out is on a freq drive?

    • @kreetins
      @kreetins 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never seen a vfd explode myself. I am in Europe tho and we run those same vfd's at 400v. I have seen a few semiconductor relays explode and shoot shit everywhere which is always fun and exciting.

  • @larryfried7742
    @larryfried7742 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been an electronic Tech for over 50 years and what I've noticed is that A) People no longer take any pride in their work. B) They don't know what they're doing C) They really just don't give a damn. Finding people that actually care, know what their doing, Treat the customers property like their own are becoming scarce. I've run into my share of morons and I relate to your frustration. Just one example : On a Television Pc Board there was an LC. Instead of removing all the module plugs and flipping the board over to resolder a Mosfet power regulator. The last guy wedged a matchbook cover to hold the transistor in place. Oh it worked for 6 months or so until the LC popped up again. I fixed it correctly and put all the extra screws that were laying in a plastic bag in their proper spots. What a non-caring , screwup of a lazy non-caring moron tech! And he worked for our company too BTW I like your videos. I always wondered how you guys did your repairs under some brutal conditions up there on the roof Good Job! 👍👍 People that have both good mechanical skills and electrical knowhow and troubleshooting abilities are like striking gold nowadaze.

  • @peterhodgkins6985
    @peterhodgkins6985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good work as always, Chris! Nothing wrong with verbalizing one's frustrations out of the sight of the customer!

  • @HVACRDUDE
    @HVACRDUDE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember watching you and u used to be just always fun and I formative and nice...
    Glad to see you like this...it's the real u

  • @Matt-my8nm
    @Matt-my8nm ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm an electrician and It is amazing how often I come across work like this. It goes to show that training and a license means nothing in any trade or profession. The one thing I have learned after being in my trade for 20+ years is that the people who do the work like you showed in the beginning of the video will forever be on the revolving door of employment. The people who take pride in what they do and do it correctly as the job and customer permits are always in demand. Never forget that service technicians from any trade would not be worth what they are if everyone did their jobs correctly. I make a living making things right that were done wrong. Its frustrating but so rewarding when you are given the opportunity to make things work that never worked correctly, its what gets me out of bed in the morning.

  • @partymstr4
    @partymstr4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    (I will preface that i have no credentials as either a HVAC tech or an electrician and only watch as a fan and I work as a diesel mechanic) As you pointed out that its so hard to find the people you really need to do good work but from seeing this I can see a large opening for your business that could be filled by possibly finding some guys that are good (and certified) electricians to maybe convert them over to learn the hvac trade as well or maybe vice versa if they are good and willing to go back to school to learn the electrical trade (possibly with a decent incenctive). could seriously be a one stop shop so to speak when it comes to that stuff when you are able to bring out your guys to do the full installs from "panel to roof" making it an even easier choice for companies to choose you over someone else that may have given a slightly cheaper bid when they can have it all done by one company rather than having to deal with two maybe three companies to do an install of equipment. just my thoughts on whole matter looking in from the outside and im glad there are still amazing people that want to do a quality job instead of taking the easy route out of things all the time. keep up the great content.

  • @williambutler7312
    @williambutler7312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    respect to the moon , always enjoy checking in on your channel here , knowledge is key . . . Arizona , lake havasu city ...Bill

    • @HVACRVIDEOS
      @HVACRVIDEOS  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching Bill!

  • @mikepasko7493
    @mikepasko7493 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    YOU ARE SOOOOO RIGHT....VERY GOOD

  • @GhostlyPlayz94
    @GhostlyPlayz94 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Now thats crazy. I've never seen an electrian thats ever done a job that poorly. That's not how it should've been done. Also the ground wire in that box? That is not safe whatsoever. Glad you were able to fix some the issues they caused after they did stuff to it.

  • @CG-1000-T
    @CG-1000-T ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your sarcasm it’s funny

  • @jorgeaguila6774
    @jorgeaguila6774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video thank you!!

  • @KacperKiler
    @KacperKiler 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I am industrial field engineer, and technitian, if i would do something like this i would lose my job AND my dignity

  • @paulb4496
    @paulb4496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always excellent video Chris...you have the best training videos on TH-cam!

  • @N67414
    @N67414 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s like this everywhere now. I recently took an AC test to buy Freon. A guy was standing outside reading a pamphlet that gave him enough answers to pass. He gets a few weeks of training and that’s it. These are the same guys here in florida that just measure pressure and one one occasion I asked about superheat and super cold and he said “Oh, don’t worry about that, it’s not that critical”. Welcome to a country that is full of low information people.

  • @16valve64
    @16valve64 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot for sharing this Chris

  • @AKStorm49
    @AKStorm49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've been looking at getting my electrical license due to bad electricians up here. We've made multiple trips to remote locations because electricians couldn't get their tihs together. Maybe it could lead to something else but at this point, it'd be to make my life easier.

  • @lawrencecavens5760
    @lawrencecavens5760 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I really hope you documented the issues and reported the poor job - hopefully you were compensated for the re-do you had to perform...But really that was a accident waiting to happen that you caught and did the right thing by correcting it.

  • @jkgamer1578
    @jkgamer1578 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to say... This is why people would call u back or call you company because you respect the job you do and you fixed that crap work they left behind.... Need more people like you.

  • @slamdvw
    @slamdvw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    on a positive note.. the wire was wrapped the correct way around the screw... it's great fun to come across wire wrapped counter-clockwise around a screw.

  • @75sRax
    @75sRax ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m 13 and been learning about electrical for about 6 years

  • @linuxd
    @linuxd ปีที่แล้ว

    appreciate the video. taking notes

  • @unclefatbloke687
    @unclefatbloke687 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You said you don't know what caused the short, but at 5:42 we can see a ton of dust inside the cabinet.
    I don't see any kind of rubber seals on the doors/removable panels, so no dust protection!
    With dust getting onto adjacent electrical terminals inside teh cabinet, the creepage & clearance distances will become reduced and in turn so will the safe voltage rating.

  • @DishitoutNetwork
    @DishitoutNetwork 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Yeah they goofed on the ground… especially at that amperage you can’t rely on the conduit to give you a solid ground to clear the short, and usually when using conduit your not allowed to go over 6 feet for anything over 20 amps. But that rule is a safety rule for encountering a problem on a small scale to if you don’t have a ground what can be used. Considering they had to pull a new feed a #8 would have fit … I agree codebooks are practically free, the electrician doesn’t have an excuse… that’s why HVAC guys hate us lol

  • @Roads_of_Europe
    @Roads_of_Europe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was not an issue of having a bad day. That was incompetence by the electrical company who did that work. You don't "forget" a ground wire. And the ground wire that was connected in that box? Omg, even connected with a few strands, it's dangerous. Those can break easily, who knows what can happen. You were 100% right to rant and complain about it. Absolutely right to call them out on it.

  • @cupdejello
    @cupdejello 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plastic bushing should be used on the entrance to the disconnect switch from seal tight. Any wire entrance where the conductors are greater than 8awg. Conduit can be used as a grounding electrode as long as there are no pieces of flexible metallic conduit that are longer than 6 ft in the run. It is legal to tap for ground from a listed enclosure. I’m not sure if LB has a grounding point in there. I would change out the LB for a outdoor rated junction box.
    Here in NYC we aren’t allowed to use any seal tight or LTFMC in lengths longer than 6Ft so we would have piped the majority of the run length and then change over to seal tight for the final portion where we connect to the equipment.

  • @glen4130
    @glen4130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I deal with this kind of stuff all the time. They KNOW no one of any importance will be on the roof to inspect their work.

  • @throttlebottle5906
    @throttlebottle5906 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the wire gauge may be one gauge oversized if it's a short run to the feeder panel, but if it's a longer run it gets derated for length(voltage drop is bad) and high ambient temps over 86F starts derating it further.
    Also because it's outdoors on roof, you would derate it for the ambient roof temperture, so a shorter run of #1 would be derated to 110 amps up to 113F ambient, any devices/terminals would be derated to 60C temperture column tables. using #1/0 would be 148 amps up to 113F and the larger size allows 75C device/terminals(if I recall correctly), this still assumes a shorter run.
    now my head hurts from thinking 🤯

  • @MichaelG63
    @MichaelG63 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always enjoy watching your videos, but after the first part of this one, you owe me a new Sarcasm Detector. You plain blew mine up! 😁 Everything looks so much better after you got done fixing the mess the electrician left. Well done!

  • @bobh6728
    @bobh6728 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is downright DANGEROUS! You won’t get a short to ground because there is no ground. You can only get a short that puts someone in the ground.

  • @TheDrew2022
    @TheDrew2022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Noticed a small flash right @14:29 from a bottom lug of the center contactor.

    • @markae0
      @markae0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had to watch it three times to see it.

    • @ChurchOfTheHolyMho
      @ChurchOfTheHolyMho 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I only caught it at 0.5x speed.

    • @TheDrew2022
      @TheDrew2022 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChurchOfTheHolyMho It's like maybe a frame or two. I saw it, and had to replay the few seconds a couple times to confirm it was a flash, not a glitch in the video.

  • @quadruple_negative
    @quadruple_negative ปีที่แล้ว

    You sound like me when I see a shoddy pump install. All good. You don’t need isolation valves on the stormwater pumps. It’s ok to mount the float switch super low. It’s good for the pump to suck air and and run dry.

  • @b-rad7381
    @b-rad7381 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a master electrician and HVAC tech. That is horrible, unprofessional work! Thank you for calling it. Sadly, I have seen so much of this kind of crap over the years. It gives all of us who are true pros and care about what we do a bad name. Unacceptable at all levels.

  • @Mustang00007
    @Mustang00007 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done mate..the standard you walk past is the standard you set.

  • @danielmccutcheon3708
    @danielmccutcheon3708 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That why I'm so thankful my Electrical vendor I use is driven by speed but quality first

  • @x_x_w_
    @x_x_w_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi, code enforcement? Yeah I'd like to report a flagrant violation.

  • @stevebelanger2448
    @stevebelanger2448 ปีที่แล้ว

    i am not an electrician but i saw the wires at the disconnect at around 3:30 - 4:00 and the cables already started to fray, that's a short waiting to happen, not to consider the vibration that these units must give out when runing full tilt. i did electrical on my own home and got it passed by inspection and heck, i could not help but shake my head as you were describing the items. and the screw missing on the cover. like hello? good gust of wind and all the elements can get in there now.

  • @krazy1z
    @krazy1z 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel your frustrations. It takes just a few minutes to clean up after yourself but I see it day in and day out. Even in residential going up into their attic to find an old evaporator coil and cabinet just thrown in there with all the broken straps and tape or piss bottles without lids leaning against a truss

  • @tracysellman1562
    @tracysellman1562 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel your frustration. I can't count the times I had this same scenario happen. I would shut down the unit and have the customer call the electrition, having the customer refuse to pay them for shoddy and unsafe repairs not to mention blatant code violations. A supposed licensed electrical contractor got nasty with me on the phone one time, what he didn't know was he was on a 3-way call with me and my friends that was not only an electrical engineer but a city and state certified inspector. I unmuted him, he identified himself and proceeded to let this guy have it, my friend ended up pulling that contractor's license and filing charges, he also helped out by filing for the contractor's recovery fund to cover the cost of repairs for the customer.

  • @cweedcoins1640
    @cweedcoins1640 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video glad to see someone who cares

  • @TerranVisitor
    @TerranVisitor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @HVACR VIDOES SO MUCH appreciate your strive for quality work. Do further research, however, it may increase 'quality' to use something like NOALOX on any aluminum connections and aluminum-copper connections - those appeared to be alum connections on disconnect.

  • @lukeeisenberger4872
    @lukeeisenberger4872 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The start of your roasting the electrical guy was amazing omfggg I was rolling

  • @Erik_Swiger
    @Erik_Swiger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I was an electrician and wiring houses, we were the last trade to come in. It was always demanded of me that I clean everything up when I was done. Meaning, I also had to pick up all the stuff left by the framers, tinners, plumbers, drywallers, etc. Since I was the last one in, it was all my baby. Now I own my own cleaning company.