Yeah I love that. I think by now, the people who are watching it have realized that it's not that kind of show where they tease a bunch of characters from other properties and then the "big" and "memorable" moments are them showing up instead of an actual story related moments. I love the mandalorian and it has a lot of that. But this show has been clear about what it is. I love it so much. And yes, Andy Serkis is amazing.
Under the radar favorite appearance is the first officer in the prison, I haven't checked it but I'm sure he's the voice actor from KotOR games, I recognize that voice anywhere
@Graeme Duncan so just cause you hate the character you hate the actor? You can’t separate the two in your mind? Are you among those people who harassed poor jack gleeson just because he played Joffrey?
love how rather than just setting up the cameos like "OOOH GUESS WHO MIGHT SHOW UP THIS EPISODE" this show casually drops two of the best actors, just like that.
Yeah everything is very believably done, not trying to be harsh but it makes the previous two star wars shows seem very lackluster by comparison. The writing and acting and world building and production value in the shots both visually and aurally are fantastic
This show is just unreal how good it is. We have never SEEN how evil the Empire is, only been told they where. The show also builds up tension like no other Star Wars show. The writing and acting is incredible. Diego had me stressed af
Not all nazi camps were concentration camps a lot were labour camps also it’s similar as well as the gulags in Russia minus the cold. This reminds me of a dystopian version of them. As someone from Europe I don’t get the USA references people say is in the show the only exception being the USA police brutality which we don’t see where I am. I see a lot of nazi Germany similarities in this show and in Star Wars in general.
@@netney52 Exactly! My great-grandfather was in a trade union in 1920s-30s Germany and because of that got imprisoned in Dachau when it was first set up. People absolutely died in there because of the conditions and hard labour, but it wasn't a death camp yet. My great-grandfather even got released after a few months as he was a very low level union member and a WW1 veteran. As for the US references: Look into the prison industrial complex if you can stomache it. Really horrific stuff, but something people need to be aware of.
I just realized something. Everyone's mad that Cassian is in prison... But, the Intelligence bureau is obsessed with finding him, and the Rebellion is trying to take him out... The irony is that he's probably in the safest place he can be right now. By the time he escapes the heat might probably die down a lot... Might even be the thing that saves his life for the time being.
Just seeing Forest Whitaker and Stellan Skarsgård go head to head was amazing. Two great actors playing out a great script. I want more of this! So good!
I’ve gotta say, you guys have become my go-to for Star Wars reviews. I love that even having your own opinions, it’s never loud, bitter, our sourly sarcastic. There is humor, great insights and fair analysis from fans who really do want to enjoy the content but hold it to account. Thank you! So a couple of things: -I think Mon’s kid is like a young rebel. She’s thinks mom is being weird or having an affair, and she (daughter) keeps showing up, acting weird and teenager’ish and then bolting off because she’s doing her own naughty rebellious stuff… something will happen to her and that is the catalyst for Mon to go full blown rebel leader during the Gorman tragedy. -Cinta is raw and hurt and that’s making her rotten. When anger takes over, you’re as bad as what you’re fighting against. That gonna be the break between her and Vel. Vel has seen Cassian basically save her life and the young rebellion by killing Skeen’s shady ass, leaving the money and only taking his share. He’s a criminal, but he’s an honest criminal. That’s going to come into play. -Luthen is more the balance of Saw than he is the antithesis of Mon. He and Saw are on the more violent side of spurring the Empire to action and thus a massive rebel reaction. But he admits he’s just the catalyst and the others are more frontline actors. And his assistant is too blindly idealistic, a zealot, even on the rebel side, she’s dangerous to them all. -Cassian has already been in prison as a youth. He’s got some PTSD but he’s so damn attentive and taking it all in. I love Diego Luna’s subtle facial acting. Dude is killing it with the subtlety and emotions. Scared but resolved… trapped but never captured. My new favorite Star Wars character. Reframes and even more re-awesome’izes ‘Rogue One’ completely!!! Okay, that’s all I have for now.
The way this show just casually drops in previous appearing Star Wars characters like Yularen in that ISB meeting and Melshi in the prison, is just perfect. If folks don’t remember it’s not taking away from the scenes, but if people do remember these characters then it adds so many more layers!
I think the 'fresher' is the entire bathroom/restroom. But like in our world, there are numerous names for the same things. Mando/Din called it a 'privy'.
The year of our lord 2022 and this show is demonstrating that with the right build up, sound effects, and acting you can legitimately sell a 60s style "act like you're being hit by a pain beam" scene. And conversation after conversation is just so riveting - I'd watch some of these actors read a phone book.
It's so cruel. A week to sit on this. To think about it all. A week to wait for the next episode. It's just so good. This show is just so good, the writing, the actors, the slow steady painful way they tell the story.
As soon as he started talking I was like "hey I know that voice... can it be?" seeing Andy Serkis in this both blew my mind and yet it felt so natural he should be here. Man I love this show
And my mind never once thought about how he already played Snoke. It wasn't a big reveal. Always happy to have Andy Serkis show up and knock it out of the park. I know he has been in the Marvel movies and other things as motion capture characters but it feels like the last time I saw him in live action was in the prestige.
This show continues to stun me with the quality of sets, music, artistic design and acting. Absolutely amazing stuff. A miracle that it's a Star Wars show lol
This show is what Star Wars needed, someone finally actually had an understanding of the themes and concepts Star Wars was supposedly about but it can leverage the weight of 50 years of identity that people have with it to force the audience to actually reckon with moral quandaries we'd otherwise dismiss. Like in the real world there's dozens of other factors and historical features we know before and after this point, and we know there's more some people know that we don't that this show is leaning on - for almost no other property or fictional setting can that be accepted in the public eye. And because of that they can actually show nonviolent revolutions accomplish nothing. They can show Captain America/Han Solo "never tell me the odd's" heroes are jackasses who's success is dependent on depth and politics. Frankly that sort of thinking is just so unhelpful for modern people and people really cannot even begin to reckon with the length of a struggle, its hopelessness, it's fallbacks because that part of our history is erased and our institutions that provided the bedrock of community and a forum for such pushes have eroded and decayed. We don't get to show up on the home stretch, trust the force, and save the galaxy - we have to resist, we have to have the courage and grit to go to places where the fight matters and not flee them for minor inconveniences and play into the hands of those who seek to justify policy via narratives. Tangent further: without institutions to spell out these political webs, or news media that can't operate like the MCU where it expects you've been keeping up for the last 10 years, everything gets stuck in the headlines - single movie narrative. People figured out Bleeding Kansas in 1840, but people can't figure out the political significance of Texas now and every headline that reinforces a childish surface level understanding, or people thinking it's courageous to actively avoid being anywhere their vote or action matters. It's because in the absence of our cultural memory, we need narratives that represent our actual struggles to fill the gap. As dumb as it is people literally cannot create adequate maps of reality or history to account for the world (for just so many reasons, beyond that it's always been true) and fictional spaces is the closest thing we have to a shared image of reality anymore.
I think that Mon Mothma's daughter has been recruited into some Imperial Youth group and is actually an agent of the Emperor now. She's awkward 'cause she's spying on her family and not entirely happy about it.
I’m so glad they went THX1138. The despair that the Emperor has created makes the Dark Side bloom galaxy wide. He wanted ultimate power, and this dystopian galaxy he created was giving it to him.
For a show that constantly tests my anxiety and stress tolerance, I'm really enjoying this Andor series lol. Such good character development throughout. Also, y'all NEED to hear the Andy Serkis versions of the LOTR/Hobbit audiobooks. Absolute perfection, 12 stars out of 10. And his singing! ❤
To me, it makes absolute sense that there should be a ‘spy thriller’ toned series or show set within the Star Wars universe given the fact that we’re dealing with a rebellion rising up against an empire. I’m just surprised we didn’t get it sooner. This show is the Star Wars I didn’t realise I wanted to see. It also helps that everyone from the cast and crew are 100% on fire in every episode. Every episode is so damn engaging and stressful to watch! Like Hector said, this show is always one step ahead of us. I have no idea where this story is heading.
This is doing so much for star wars. This and the last episodes of the clone wars are some of the best star wars things I've seen. And those are some of the best acted and portrayed episodes. I am so glad seeing this direction of star wars.
The prison looks a lot like the Raft in the MCU. Btw the boots the guards are wearing are just slightly modified snow boots, continuing the SW tradition of making props from common objects
I think those parts are for the Death Star. Think how ironic that would be. Casian could be partly responsible for both building and destroying the Death Star
Great writing by Beau Willimon (House of Cards & Ides of March), looking forward to his 3-episode run! Hell of a writers' room with Stephen Schiff (The Americans) & The Gilroy Brothers!
“I guess it’s just called a toilet.” They also real used real expletives in an earlier episode instead of “dank ferrick”, or whatever it is they usually say.
What makes this show special for me is that we’re rooting for people we wouldn’t normally. I want Dedra to get one over on the other ISB guys who just want to protect their fiefdoms. I sympathise for Syril who was just trying to do his job right. It’s just a big tension stew and each episode flies by.
I am with you that Andor and Tales of the Jedi are both amazing. And Star Wars Universe need both things. Some people like me will like both, some just Andor and some just Tales of the Jedi. And that's fine. Star Wars is a Universe. The more extended the richer.
@@DinosaurAttackForce So do I. Sometimes I wonder if they could make a sequel series following one or both of Crichton's children. Don't know if I'd trust anyone to bring the right tone though.
God, the use of competition to divide/regulate the population, the sign language through the windows, collective punishment, regimenting every aspect of existing...so many things in this episode warped me back in time to my days as a CO. I'm seeing so many people draw comparisons to concentration/labor camps, but they have no idea how much is straight from the very contemporary evils of the US prison system.
Disney obviously had a lot of faith in the creators of this show because not only did they give them 12 episodes to work with (more than any other series so far, with each one 45 minutes to an hour long!) but season 2 is already greenlit with filming beginning next month!
I don't know why, but I have a feeling Mon Mothmas daughter has somehow joined the rebellion. She's always sneaking off and seems very suspicious of Mon. Wouldn't it be crazy if she ends up getting killed at the end of the season, because she was a spy in her own family? Best Star Wars series we've gotten so far!
Another stellar reaction and discussion! This show is so damned good - organically revealing the ties to Rogue One while slyly building up the layers that serve to fill in all the gaps and details leading up to the events on Scarif that make it such a crucial linchpin in the SW saga. It's enthralling to watch it unfold week after week. Also, I watch both the Patreon and TH-cam reactions of the shows, and I have to say that you guys do such a smooth, skillful job with the editing choices (I know it's mostly Adam, but he's humble enough to share the love) that the cut-down reactions feel like you're hardly missing anything from the full-length watch-alongs. And with that being said... GO TO PATREON AND SUPPORT THE HOMIES!! 😆😆😆
Now that Adam has mentioned it, you cannot convince me that the Star Wars universe does not have corridos. "The corrido of Cad Bane" aka "with a blaster in his hand" "The seven machos of Aldhadi" "The corrido of the scoundrel and the general"
I think it took me until this episode to really see what this show’s about. The threat of the Empire becoming an overbearing presence and what seems like a small group of rebels trying to stop them. I was under the impression that we we’re going to know Cassian a bit more and how he helped start the rebellion. This show is starting to us that it’s been going on in Aldhani, Coruscant, and even inside the Imperial prisons. Cassian is just taking notice instead of being angry about it. What happened to the manifesto? Those prison scenes were insane. Seemed like Cassian was going crazy until he saw the guy signing with another prisoner across the bridge. I also agree that the acting in this episode was great.
My guess at what the prisoners are building is that it is Death Star related. Majority of the time, Star Wars has the Death Star involved even if only small elements.
I love how this series acknowledges the varied individual experiences that lead people to rebel. Andor’s journey is not predictable even though we know his ending. The tension building is remarkable. I feel as if I am really watching a true rebellion and all the lives at risk matter. If this can be the case while watching fiction, do I feel the same immediacy and concern for the real world wars and rebellions that currently exist? Shouldn’t I care more for the suffering of these very real people? Off to go support Ukraine now. Love you guys!
This show just keeps adding so much to Rogue One. Crazy to think people asked; "Who wants to see how the Death Star plans were stolen? Who cares about that? Star Wars is about the Skywalkers!", and we're getting Star Wars that's proving it was always about more than the Skywalkers.
I've said it before and I'll say it again...can the writers of this show be used in Ahsoka's series? Because THIS is the kind of writing Thrawn deserves. Or have Thrawn cameo in this show. I want so badly to pair this level of writing with Thrawn's character in any way possible...
I wonder if they are actually making anything in the factory. I could totally see the final thing they make being taken to one of the other levels and disassembled, and the parts recycled. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Empire efficiency at its best worseness (you know what I mean). Keep the prisoners concentrated on winning/a better lifestyle & they will be too busy to think about escape, while the fear of getting everyone around them electrocuted stops them from causing trouble.
the two things i heard a guess what they are making is 1 stuff for death Star project or stuff for imperial viper probe droid. Also, can't wait for next week episode. I went crazy when i saw Andy Serkis who did Snook
You have a theory that Mon's daughter knew all along about her mothers plans, but I have a different idea. I think the daughter's an all out Rebellion supporter and she has an issue with her mother because she doesn't know what she's really doing and thinks she's only talking about some of the evil that the Empire's doing, while she should be doing something to actively fight against the Empire. I think that's the case, because that allows for both of them to do something interesting around the Rebbels wthout knowing about each other's actions. That can lead us into an arc that ends with the daughter getting murdered by the Empire, and Mon Mothma becoming an all out Rebel leader. I can totally see Mon Mothma's daughter being among the protestors on Ghorman. Her mother already namedropped Ghormans a few times.
Andor is great because it’s providing the base that the rebellion was built on. The rebels have always been “fighting the good fight”, but why? What was happening that was so bad that planet after planet after planet was willing to go through hell, including destruction of said planet, to rebel against the regime. Don’t tell me, SHOW ME. Show me the grassroots beginnings. Show me the people willing to die for the cause. Show me the people who built the foundation for Luke, Leia and the whole gang to stand on in order to take the Empire down. This, as well as my 2nd favorite SW movie of all time, Rogue One, has been showing me in spades.
Am I alone in thinking that Luthen is not behind the order to find & kill Cassian? It sounds like Kleya is trying to be proactive and keep him away from making some hard choices she thinks are “necessary”. Sounds like she is sneakily bypassing Luthen because she thinks him being emotionally attached means he is “slipping”.
I'm loving how clearly this show is defining who is a real life wanna be stormtrooper. I pointed out that the way the stormtroopers and guards treat the prisoners is startlingly close to real life if you've ever had any experience with it on another channel and got some bootlicker like "they're criminals they deserve it"........ when we just watched Cassian get arrested for....... walking on a beach? And sure, Cassian HAS committed crimes in his life, but the Stormtroopers certainly don't know that. I have a pretty firm "I don't identify with Nazis and Stormtroopers" policy myself. Hasn't led me wrong so far.
Cool seeing Melshi from Rogue One being introduced. The prison look and uniforms are straight out of THX-1138. The old guy at table 5 will collapse/die and during the transfer, a riot/breakout/escape will free Cassian and Melshi, minimum.
When you don´t know what are the parts for they build, its strukture part of something sphered, So the real question have to be , what the prison will be later. Just look the arrival szene again or listen to Adam, he called it.
This is the show that proves that most star wars fans only enjoy star wars because of the force users and lightsabers. Its not doing great from what i've read but all the people watching are loving it lol its so sad
This episode was amazing! In the prison scene where Cassian is there and we’re all looking at what they’re building, Adam mentioned for the death star and that’s what I thought too, imagine it is, maybe but who knows. I do agree that what we think is one thing of how the story gonna go, it totally turns different and I think that’s what I enjoy about watching the series so much and it doesn’t help that we almost saw Andy Serkis backside (which I mean, I don’t mind😂) can’t wait to see you guys react to Tales of the Jedi it’s so good!!!
To answer Adam's question from the top down and not counting Vader it goes the Emperor to Grand Vizier Mas Amedda then Sly Moore the Emperor chief of staff then the ruling council headed by the Grand Vizier next would COMPNOR The Commision for the Preservation of the New Order headed by Chairman Armand Isard within COMPNOR are 6 organizations the ISB imperial security Bureau being one of them. ISB has a Directorate headed by an unnamed Director seconded by Deputy Director then a group of Assistant Directors. ISB is administered in the form of 9 subgroups / branches. Major Partagaz appears to be an assistant director heading up the investigations division / subgroup and Colonel Wullf Yularen appears to be either a deputy or assistant director and according to Canon seems to be third in the ISB chain of command. hope that helps Adam
I love that everyone’s favorite appearance in this episode isn’t a character or reference, but just the actor Andy Serkis. He’s great, and it’s fun.
Yeah I love that. I think by now, the people who are watching it have realized that it's not that kind of show where they tease a bunch of characters from other properties and then the "big" and "memorable" moments are them showing up instead of an actual story related moments. I love the mandalorian and it has a lot of that. But this show has been clear about what it is. I love it so much. And yes, Andy Serkis is amazing.
Under the radar favorite appearance is the first officer in the prison, I haven't checked it but I'm sure he's the voice actor from KotOR games, I recognize that voice anywhere
@Graeme Duncan so just cause you hate the character you hate the actor? You can’t separate the two in your mind? Are you among those people who harassed poor jack gleeson just because he played Joffrey?
love how rather than just setting up the cameos like "OOOH GUESS WHO MIGHT SHOW UP THIS EPISODE" this show casually drops two of the best actors, just like that.
Yeah everything is very believably done, not trying to be harsh but it makes the previous two star wars shows seem very lackluster by comparison. The writing and acting and world building and production value in the shots both visually and aurally are fantastic
so so great
Right? =D
Shows don't set up cameos. Fans are the ones always hyping up these cameos.
This show is just unreal how good it is. We have never SEEN how evil the Empire is, only been told they where. The show also builds up tension like no other Star Wars show. The writing and acting is incredible. Diego had me stressed af
Killing billions of people at once by blowing up a whole planet wasn't evil enough for you? You have high standards, my friend.
@@zengamer21 I think he might mean the society and government at ground level, for which he'd be right. But your comment did make me chuckle.
@@charlie7mason I was mostly joking. I'm also really enjoying seeing the empire work its evil at this level.
@@zengamer21 It goes with the saying “4 deaths is a tragedy. 100,000 deaths is a statistic”. The human capacity to empathize has limits.
This show and Rogue One are the best live action Star Wars content we've ever gotten.
I agree
I know, right. Nothing has captivated me like this since the Ewoks movies.
No one caught that Sergeant Melshi was at his table? Its his friend from Rogue One. Hes is who helped recruit the ground force to hit Scariff.
Yeah I loved when someone pointed that out. I totally missed it in the episode and watched closer on rewatch
Of course Heros Reforged didn't 😂😂
Ruescott Melshi was a founding member of the Rebellion and a recruiter!
The parallels between Nazi concentration camp and Andor's prison sentence are so stark, it sent shivers down my spine
That and the US prison industrial complex. Those prison scenes are so oppressive and dystopian.
Closer to US prisons I'd think. The punishment is more extreme, but it's not a death camp.
Not all nazi camps were concentration camps a lot were labour camps also it’s similar as well as the gulags in Russia minus the cold. This reminds me of a dystopian version of them. As someone from Europe I don’t get the USA references people say is in the show the only exception being the USA police brutality which we don’t see where I am. I see a lot of nazi Germany similarities in this show and in Star Wars in general.
The refresher especially gave huge concentration camp vibes.
@@netney52 Exactly! My great-grandfather was in a trade union in 1920s-30s Germany and because of that got imprisoned in Dachau when it was first set up. People absolutely died in there because of the conditions and hard labour, but it wasn't a death camp yet. My great-grandfather even got released after a few months as he was a very low level union member and a WW1 veteran.
As for the US references: Look into the prison industrial complex if you can stomache it. Really horrific stuff, but something people need to be aware of.
I just realized something.
Everyone's mad that Cassian is in prison...
But, the Intelligence bureau is obsessed with finding him, and the Rebellion is trying to take him out...
The irony is that he's probably in the safest place he can be right now. By the time he escapes the heat might probably die down a lot... Might even be the thing that saves his life for the time being.
Just seeing Forest Whitaker and Stellan Skarsgård go head to head was amazing. Two great actors playing out a great script. I want more of this! So good!
This show feels like an HBO series.
I’ve gotta say, you guys have become my go-to for Star Wars reviews. I love that even having your own opinions, it’s never loud, bitter, our sourly sarcastic. There is humor, great insights and fair analysis from fans who really do want to enjoy the content but hold it to account. Thank you!
So a couple of things:
-I think Mon’s kid is like a young rebel. She’s thinks mom is being weird or having an affair, and she (daughter) keeps showing up, acting weird and teenager’ish and then bolting off because she’s doing her own naughty rebellious stuff… something will happen to her and that is the catalyst for Mon to go full blown rebel leader during the Gorman tragedy.
-Cinta is raw and hurt and that’s making her rotten. When anger takes over, you’re as bad as what you’re fighting against. That gonna be the break between her and Vel. Vel has seen Cassian basically save her life and the young rebellion by killing Skeen’s shady ass, leaving the money and only taking his share. He’s a criminal, but he’s an honest criminal. That’s going to come into play.
-Luthen is more the balance of Saw than he is the antithesis of Mon. He and Saw are on the more violent side of spurring the Empire to action and thus a massive rebel reaction. But he admits he’s just the catalyst and the others are more frontline actors. And his assistant is too blindly idealistic, a zealot, even on the rebel side, she’s dangerous to them all.
-Cassian has already been in prison as a youth. He’s got some PTSD but he’s so damn attentive and taking it all in. I love Diego Luna’s subtle facial acting. Dude is killing it with the subtlety and emotions. Scared but resolved… trapped but never captured. My new favorite Star Wars character. Reframes and even more re-awesome’izes ‘Rogue One’ completely!!!
Okay, that’s all I have for now.
The way this show just casually drops in previous appearing Star Wars characters like Yularen in that ISB meeting and Melshi in the prison, is just perfect. If folks don’t remember it’s not taking away from the scenes, but if people do remember these characters then it adds so many more layers!
Also going to mean a lot when people watch these chronologically one day and see these relationships evolve across the series and R1...
I think the 'fresher' is the entire bathroom/restroom. But like in our world, there are numerous names for the same things. Mando/Din called it a 'privy'.
EVERY NEW EPISODE IS TOPPING THE PREVIOUS ONE ... LOVE IT
Yeah, some people thought Kleya was Leia when the first trailer came out. She does look a lot like a young Carrie Fisher.
The year of our lord 2022 and this show is demonstrating that with the right build up, sound effects, and acting you can legitimately sell a 60s style "act like you're being hit by a pain beam" scene. And conversation after conversation is just so riveting - I'd watch some of these actors read a phone book.
It's so cruel. A week to sit on this. To think about it all. A week to wait for the next episode. It's just so good. This show is just so good, the writing, the actors, the slow steady painful way they tell the story.
oh boy - same!
I was searching for a word to describe this show that wasn't "mature" and finally someone has provided it: "sophisticated". Thank you!
I like how this episode fleshed out the Empire legitimizing slave labor by tying it to their justice system. It makes so much more sense
OMG Denise Gough, this lady though...her Dedra Merro interpretation is exquisite to watch...
I like the juxtaposition of the lowest rung and the highest rung of society when we're flipping in-between prison and the capital.
This is by far the best Star Wars show so far
The old man at table 5, played the thief in (Not sure which batman movie) when he gets picked up and asks “What are you?” “I am Batman”
The first Tim Burton Batman from 89👍🙂
Hector talking about the Evil Empire of the United States. Summoning the trolls. I love it. 👏👏👏
Also ACAB. Even space cops, apparently.
As soon as he started talking I was like "hey I know that voice... can it be?" seeing Andy Serkis in this both blew my mind and yet it felt so natural he should be here. Man I love this show
And my mind never once thought about how he already played Snoke. It wasn't a big reveal. Always happy to have Andy Serkis show up and knock it out of the park. I know he has been in the Marvel movies and other things as motion capture characters but it feels like the last time I saw him in live action was in the prestige.
This show continues to stun me with the quality of sets, music, artistic design and acting. Absolutely amazing stuff. A miracle that it's a Star Wars show lol
This show is what Star Wars needed, someone finally actually had an understanding of the themes and concepts Star Wars was supposedly about but it can leverage the weight of 50 years of identity that people have with it to force the audience to actually reckon with moral quandaries we'd otherwise dismiss. Like in the real world there's dozens of other factors and historical features we know before and after this point, and we know there's more some people know that we don't that this show is leaning on - for almost no other property or fictional setting can that be accepted in the public eye.
And because of that they can actually show nonviolent revolutions accomplish nothing. They can show Captain America/Han Solo "never tell me the odd's" heroes are jackasses who's success is dependent on depth and politics. Frankly that sort of thinking is just so unhelpful for modern people and people really cannot even begin to reckon with the length of a struggle, its hopelessness, it's fallbacks because that part of our history is erased and our institutions that provided the bedrock of community and a forum for such pushes have eroded and decayed. We don't get to show up on the home stretch, trust the force, and save the galaxy - we have to resist, we have to have the courage and grit to go to places where the fight matters and not flee them for minor inconveniences and play into the hands of those who seek to justify policy via narratives.
Tangent further: without institutions to spell out these political webs, or news media that can't operate like the MCU where it expects you've been keeping up for the last 10 years, everything gets stuck in the headlines - single movie narrative. People figured out Bleeding Kansas in 1840, but people can't figure out the political significance of Texas now and every headline that reinforces a childish surface level understanding, or people thinking it's courageous to actively avoid being anywhere their vote or action matters. It's because in the absence of our cultural memory, we need narratives that represent our actual struggles to fill the gap. As dumb as it is people literally cannot create adequate maps of reality or history to account for the world (for just so many reasons, beyond that it's always been true) and fictional spaces is the closest thing we have to a shared image of reality anymore.
I think that Mon Mothma's daughter has been recruited into some Imperial Youth group and is actually an agent of the Emperor now. She's awkward 'cause she's spying on her family and not entirely happy about it.
I’m so glad they went THX1138. The despair that the Emperor has created makes the Dark Side bloom galaxy wide. He wanted ultimate power, and this dystopian galaxy he created was giving it to him.
Agustin's "Monica Mothma!" 🤣🤣🤣👍💜
For a show that constantly tests my anxiety and stress tolerance, I'm really enjoying this Andor series lol. Such good character development throughout.
Also, y'all NEED to hear the Andy Serkis versions of the LOTR/Hobbit audiobooks. Absolute perfection, 12 stars out of 10. And his singing! ❤
you have to do a complete show with Hectors Nerdy Voice, lol so hilarious
Reminds me of the nerd character in Robot Chicken 😂
To me, it makes absolute sense that there should be a ‘spy thriller’ toned series or show set within the Star Wars universe given the fact that we’re dealing with a rebellion rising up against an empire. I’m just surprised we didn’t get it sooner. This show is the Star Wars I didn’t realise I wanted to see. It also helps that everyone from the cast and crew are 100% on fire in every episode. Every episode is so damn engaging and stressful to watch! Like Hector said, this show is always one step ahead of us. I have no idea where this story is heading.
This is doing so much for star wars. This and the last episodes of the clone wars are some of the best star wars things I've seen. And those are some of the best acted and portrayed episodes. I am so glad seeing this direction of star wars.
The prison looks a lot like the Raft in the MCU. Btw the boots the guards are wearing are just slightly modified snow boots, continuing the SW tradition of making props from common objects
I think those parts are for the Death Star. Think how ironic that would be. Casian could be partly responsible for both building and destroying the Death Star
Same as Galen Erso, partly responsible for it's creation and it's destruction
Your guess was on point!
And the very weapon that killed him
Great writing by Beau Willimon (House of Cards & Ides of March), looking forward to his 3-episode run! Hell of a writers' room with Stephen Schiff (The Americans) & The Gilroy Brothers!
Lol. “We haven’t got Saw Gerrera yet guys”. About that…
The prison was giving me THX-1138 vibes . The outfits are very similar to that movie
Not sure if you guys mentioned this but the guy “melshi” that was in the prison with him was in rogue one as a rebel.
“I guess it’s just called a toilet.”
They also real used real expletives in an earlier episode instead of “dank ferrick”, or whatever it is they usually say.
Personally I love the made up Star Wars curses. Adds to the feeling that it’s a different galaxy with a different culture.
@@Jabberwocky415 karabast!
I adored how the Cassian side of this episode was basically just a mini retelling of THX-1138.
They didnt show it in this reaction but Melshi!
I was waiting for them to notice!!
I've heard restrooms being referred to as "refresher" in mando and rebels
Din also called it “the privy” I think with frog lady
Sorry commented on the wrong post here haha
Andor is the best Star Wars content I've ever seen.
What makes this show special for me is that we’re rooting for people we wouldn’t normally. I want Dedra to get one over on the other ISB guys who just want to protect their fiefdoms. I sympathise for Syril who was just trying to do his job right. It’s just a big tension stew and each episode flies by.
Great reaction. This show is so fascinating to watch!
I am with you that Andor and Tales of the Jedi are both amazing. And Star Wars Universe need both things. Some people like me will like both, some just Andor and some just Tales of the Jedi. And that's fine. Star Wars is a Universe. The more extended the richer.
This show is so frelling stressful, and I can't stop watching it!
@@DinosaurAttackForce So do I. Sometimes I wonder if they could make a sequel series following one or both of Crichton's children. Don't know if I'd trust anyone to bring the right tone though.
Leading up to some really great escape and rebellion tatics. May the force be with Andor and I predict it will be.
Haha love the Rage Against the Machine reference!
God, the use of competition to divide/regulate the population, the sign language through the windows, collective punishment, regimenting every aspect of existing...so many things in this episode warped me back in time to my days as a CO. I'm seeing so many people draw comparisons to concentration/labor camps, but they have no idea how much is straight from the very contemporary evils of the US prison system.
Disney obviously had a lot of faith in the creators of this show because not only did they give them 12 episodes to work with (more than any other series so far, with each one 45 minutes to an hour long!) but season 2 is already greenlit with filming beginning next month!
I don't know why, but I have a feeling Mon Mothmas daughter has somehow joined the rebellion. She's always sneaking off and seems very suspicious of Mon. Wouldn't it be crazy if she ends up getting killed at the end of the season, because she was a spy in her own family? Best Star Wars series we've gotten so far!
No way.. this is not more sophisticated than "I don't like sand.." Did you guys recognize Cassian's prison / table mate Melshi?
Another stellar reaction and discussion! This show is so damned good - organically revealing the ties to Rogue One while slyly building up the layers that serve to fill in all the gaps and details leading up to the events on Scarif that make it such a crucial linchpin in the SW saga. It's enthralling to watch it unfold week after week.
Also, I watch both the Patreon and TH-cam reactions of the shows, and I have to say that you guys do such a smooth, skillful job with the editing choices (I know it's mostly Adam, but he's humble enough to share the love) that the cut-down reactions feel like you're hardly missing anything from the full-length watch-alongs. And with that being said...
GO TO PATREON AND SUPPORT THE HOMIES!! 😆😆😆
I love that this prison is a terrible combination of Imperial concentration camp and something far more evil: an Amazon fulfillment center!
Now that Adam has mentioned it, you cannot convince me that the Star Wars universe does not have corridos.
"The corrido of Cad Bane" aka "with a blaster in his hand"
"The seven machos of Aldhadi"
"The corrido of the scoundrel and the general"
I think it took me until this episode to really see what this show’s about. The threat of the Empire becoming an overbearing presence and what seems like a small group of rebels trying to stop them. I was under the impression that we we’re going to know Cassian a bit more and how he helped start the rebellion. This show is starting to us that it’s been going on in Aldhani, Coruscant, and even inside the Imperial prisons. Cassian is just taking notice instead of being angry about it. What happened to the manifesto?
Those prison scenes were insane. Seemed like Cassian was going crazy until he saw the guy signing with another prisoner across the bridge. I also agree that the acting in this episode was great.
I think the manifesto is still in that case that Cassian hid above the shower last episode.
The old guy in the briefing room is admiral Ularen who was in clone wars.
My guess at what the prisoners are building is that it is Death Star related. Majority of the time, Star Wars has the Death Star involved even if only small elements.
I love how this series acknowledges the varied individual experiences that lead people to rebel. Andor’s journey is not predictable even though we know his ending. The tension building is remarkable. I feel as if I am really watching a true rebellion and all the lives at risk matter. If this can be the case while watching fiction, do I feel the same immediacy and concern for the real world wars and rebellions that currently exist? Shouldn’t I care more for the suffering of these very real people? Off to go support Ukraine now. Love you guys!
can i just say, i low-key would like to own those boots/sneakers that the prison wardens wear in that work-factory/prison.
This show just keeps adding so much to Rogue One. Crazy to think people asked; "Who wants to see how the Death Star plans were stolen? Who cares about that? Star Wars is about the Skywalkers!", and we're getting Star Wars that's proving it was always about more than the Skywalkers.
Damn, Hector's Comic Book Guy is spot on! 👍
The soundtrack has Mass Effect / Blade Runner vibes...loving it!
Imagine if the prequel films had this level of political intrigue written into them with all the politicians and diplomats?
Thanks, Adam! Thanks, Hector! Thanks, Agustin! 🛠 #HeroesReforged #StarWars #Andor #DisneyPlus
In the Mannalorian the toilet was called a Bactu
You need 2 pairs of those Nike Narkina 5s, one to rock one to stock!
Who might the Intergalactic Drip Broker even be?! 🙃
I've said it before and I'll say it again...can the writers of this show be used in Ahsoka's series? Because THIS is the kind of writing Thrawn deserves. Or have Thrawn cameo in this show. I want so badly to pair this level of writing with Thrawn's character in any way possible...
Pity but i guess we will get child rebel version of filoniverse
Effing love you Hector!
To me , Andor characters are like Hbo's Rome series.
they all are interesting and have something interesting to say in order to move the story forward
looks like this is gonna be a 3 episode empire strike back moment 😅
Love you too Hermano Adam! ✊😎
I wonder if they are actually making anything in the factory. I could totally see the final thing they make being taken to one of the other levels and disassembled, and the parts recycled. Lather, rinse, repeat.
That is an old torture technique. They use to give them bricks to build a wall then tear it down and order them to build it again
Empire efficiency at its best worseness (you know what I mean). Keep the prisoners concentrated on winning/a better lifestyle & they will be too busy to think about escape, while the fear of getting everyone around them electrocuted stops them from causing trouble.
I’m kinda saddened by the ending. Cassian is now a small cog in the Imperial machine.
You are referring to Admiral Yularen in a New Hope.
the two things i heard a guess what they are making is 1 stuff for death Star project or stuff for imperial viper probe droid. Also, can't wait for next week episode. I went crazy when i saw Andy Serkis who did Snook
You have a theory that Mon's daughter knew all along about her mothers plans, but I have a different idea. I think the daughter's an all out Rebellion supporter and she has an issue with her mother because she doesn't know what she's really doing and thinks she's only talking about some of the evil that the Empire's doing, while she should be doing something to actively fight against the Empire. I think that's the case, because that allows for both of them to do something interesting around the Rebbels wthout knowing about each other's actions. That can lead us into an arc that ends with the daughter getting murdered by the Empire, and Mon Mothma becoming an all out Rebel leader. I can totally see Mon Mothma's daughter being among the protestors on Ghorman. Her mother already namedropped Ghormans a few times.
I hope she's exactly the contrary... but i doubt they have the guts to do it.
His face is like todays result in the World Cup🤫.
So close to 100k!!!
Andor is great because it’s providing the base that the rebellion was built on. The rebels have always been “fighting the good fight”, but why? What was happening that was so bad that planet after planet after planet was willing to go through hell, including destruction of said planet, to rebel against the regime. Don’t tell me, SHOW ME. Show me the grassroots beginnings. Show me the people willing to die for the cause. Show me the people who built the foundation for Luke, Leia and the whole gang to stand on in order to take the Empire down. This, as well as my 2nd favorite SW movie of all time, Rogue One, has been showing me in spades.
How would you feel about a series around the isb, like a Star Wars Loki?
Am I alone in thinking that Luthen is not behind the order to find & kill Cassian? It sounds like Kleya is trying to be proactive and keep him away from making some hard choices she thinks are “necessary”. Sounds like she is sneakily bypassing Luthen because she thinks him being emotionally attached means he is “slipping”.
Nope, not alone.
I'm loving how clearly this show is defining who is a real life wanna be stormtrooper. I pointed out that the way the stormtroopers and guards treat the prisoners is startlingly close to real life if you've ever had any experience with it on another channel and got some bootlicker like "they're criminals they deserve it"........ when we just watched Cassian get arrested for....... walking on a beach?
And sure, Cassian HAS committed crimes in his life, but the Stormtroopers certainly don't know that. I have a pretty firm "I don't identify with Nazis and Stormtroopers" policy myself. Hasn't led me wrong so far.
Cool seeing Melshi from Rogue One being introduced. The prison look and uniforms are straight out of THX-1138. The old guy at table 5 will collapse/die and during the transfer, a riot/breakout/escape will free Cassian and Melshi, minimum.
When you don´t know what are the parts for they build, its strukture part of something sphered, So the real question have to be , what the prison will be later. Just look the arrival szene again or listen to Adam, he called it.
Lmao you made my day Hector with that RATM line .. Smile :-)
This is the show that proves that most star wars fans only enjoy star wars because of the force users and lightsabers. Its not doing great from what i've read but all the people watching are loving it lol its so sad
It turns out that the early reporting of the show doing badly was incorrect. The person who reported it entered the data they had incorrectly.
Its doing good just not as good as the other star wars shows but better than most shows out there
This episode was amazing! In the prison scene where Cassian is there and we’re all looking at what they’re building, Adam mentioned for the death star and that’s what I thought too, imagine it is, maybe but who knows. I do agree that what we think is one thing of how the story gonna go, it totally turns different and I think that’s what I enjoy about watching the series so much and it doesn’t help that we almost saw Andy Serkis backside (which I mean, I don’t mind😂) can’t wait to see you guys react to Tales of the Jedi it’s so good!!!
Prestige Star Wars… who would have thought 😂 and it’s on the most random character in the universe 😂
if they could make a similar show when the new republic doesn't know about the first order yet. would be pretty interesting.
To answer Adam's question from the top down and not counting Vader it goes the Emperor to Grand Vizier Mas Amedda then Sly Moore the Emperor chief of staff then the ruling council headed by the Grand Vizier next would COMPNOR The Commision for the Preservation of the New Order headed by Chairman Armand Isard within COMPNOR are 6 organizations the ISB imperial security Bureau being one of them. ISB has a Directorate headed by an unnamed Director seconded by Deputy Director then a group of Assistant Directors. ISB is administered in the form of 9 subgroups / branches. Major Partagaz appears to be an assistant director heading up the investigations division / subgroup and Colonel Wullf Yularen appears to be either a deputy or assistant director and according to Canon seems to be third in the ISB chain of command. hope that helps Adam
4:56 I swear if some company doesn't drop some actual Narkina 5 boots, Ima be very disappointed
I'm sure you can find some snowboard boots that look the same the color matching is the hard part
"Florpy??" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
FRESHER … And in Mandalorian it was called an "evac tube".
I'd love this style with Jedi characters.
TIGHTEN UP
I could be wrong, but I thought freshers were what they called bathrooms as a whole.