The Entire History of Logic Pro

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  • @afunnylookingsquash
    @afunnylookingsquash  ปีที่แล้ว +21

    CORRECTION: The original dongle for the log3 was not USB as it had not been invented yet. C-lab was also purchased by emagic later on, my mistake! If you guys see any errors in my videos, please let me know! I always try my best to research but we are human and bound to get things wrong or missing some context. Thanks for watching!
    Join the squash discord: discord.gg/gpbTJJBRQG
    Resources to read about Logic Pro's History:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_Pro
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emagic
    macprovideo.com/article/audio-software/a-brief-history-of-logic-from-emagic-to-apple
    happymag.tv/logic-pro/
    www.apple.com/logic-pro/

  • @markusfritze
    @markusfritze ปีที่แล้ว +192

    Thanks from the Logic team for your nice video about the history of Notator Logic. We really enjoyed it.

    • @afunnylookingsquash
      @afunnylookingsquash  ปีที่แล้ว +25

      😳:)

    • @mattrixx_audio
      @mattrixx_audio ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Markus!! Haven't from you since the old Logic User and beta forums on the old dialup modems! 🙂 All the very best!

    • @witchilich
      @witchilich ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wait, is the logic team still in Germany?

    • @broklanders4730
      @broklanders4730 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@witchilich - yes. Still in Rellingen, Hamburg.

    • @broklanders4730
      @broklanders4730 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @markusfritze - wow, this has been a long time. 👍

  • @mattparker8747
    @mattparker8747 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Possibly worth mentioning that in the Logic Pro X/Logic Pro era all updates have been free to existing owners. So there has no need for any Logic user to pay for any updates (of which there have been many) since 2013. This is one of its biggest features IMO

  • @authenticproduction
    @authenticproduction ปีที่แล้ว +27

    It’s history goes back even further than Emagic. Gerhard Lengling created a program called “super track”, and was available on the Commodore 64. He called the company “C-Lab”, and was based in Hamburg, Germany. That was my first sequencing program - I bought it in 1988. Not too long after, it migrated to Notator/Creator under a new company called “Emagic” (on the Atari). If you wanted only sequencing, you purchased “creator”. If you wanted notation as well, you would purchase notator.

  • @murat_buyuk
    @murat_buyuk ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Apple didn't "introduce" Alchemy. They bought Camel Audio, who created Alchemy and both SpaceFX and PhatFX (previously CamelPhat and CamelSpace). They were available long before 10.2

  • @sjh3217
    @sjh3217 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm never gonna forget how Apple bought out Camel Audio and made Alchemy a Mac exclusive right before I was able to buy the original plug-in

    • @PerChristianFrankplads
      @PerChristianFrankplads ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, that was a loss for everyone who doesn't use Logic. :/

    • @caidurkan2916
      @caidurkan2916 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The loss of Camelcrusher (unless you want to snoop around for the vst/au file) is heavily felt by electronic music producers, use it quite a bit for saturating drums and phatfx doesn't really achieve the raw sonic quality even if it is a lot more versatile

    • @broklanders4730
      @broklanders4730 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Indeed. I made 2 content banks for Alchemy - one for the factory presets and one commercial expansion (bigtone). I was ready to do another one when Ben contacted me and said that he was sold to Apple - the whole company actually, including the employees. As i was on PC, first i "lost" Logic, then i "lost" Alchemy. 🤦‍♂️😂

    • @tronam
      @tronam ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess we should be mad at Ben Gillett (Camel Audio) for selling his company, but to be fair, Apple didn't just buy out his products for scrap like so many acquisition companies do. They hired Ben and he's still working at Apple today as a senior software engineer. It wasn't just Alchemy that made its way into Logic, but also all of the effects from CamelPhat and CamelCrusher.

    • @broklanders4730
      @broklanders4730 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tronam - i am not mad at him at all. We all would probably have done it the same way.

  • @DavidRavenMoon
    @DavidRavenMoon ปีที่แล้ว +16

    You left out Emagic Logic Audio. That’s what it was called in 2000 (version 4.5)
    Grammy winning songs were recorded in GarageBand
    Regarding plugins… all the Logic plugins are great.

    • @timbushong4387
      @timbushong4387 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah - I was looking for info on the great exodus to Cubase back in 2002...after Apple informed everyone who had built an XP machine and purchased Logic version 5 that they were dropping all Windows support.

    • @DavidRavenMoon
      @DavidRavenMoon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@timbushong4387 I came from Cubase to Logic 😁 But always on a Mac. Everyone I know that used Windows had nothing but headaches. Lol. And I’m a former sys op in a mixed (Mac/Win/Unix) environment… guess which computers had the most problems?

    • @timbushong4387
      @timbushong4387 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DavidRavenMoon - Yeah - I hear ya. Back then, it might have made more sense to spend the extra$ and buy a Mac. I had IT friends who were like 'I'll BUILD you a computer,' and I fell for it. Now I'm a sole Reaper on Win10 user, and happy as a clam. I remember all the hullabaloo when Apple bought Emagic, and the insanity on all the Logic message boards!

  • @kappadeyoung_
    @kappadeyoung_ ปีที่แล้ว +16

    your content is too underrated. Keep pushing

  • @88smypassion2
    @88smypassion2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thank you for your post. Being close to 70 myself, I using Logic from its inception. Some things that are important to point out that it actually started from a program from C-Lab called Creator. It was first available for the Atari ST which was attractive because it had built in MIDI ports. Later other platforms were supported. The large dongle attached directly to the computer because USB was not available at the time. I never heard of the Log 3 however C-Lab offered the Unitor with three separate MIDI outs and two MIDI ins. At the time an extra MIDI in was a very valuable and a scarce option. This piece of plastic ,which replaced the dongle, was about $750 additional to the cost of Notator. Much later, when USB was available, the interface switched. C-Lab's early distributors of this magnificent program was only available through Ensoniq and then later Digidesign, which is now known as Avid. Back in the early 80s, if you were to buy Logic and Unitor you were looking at about $1200. You can purchase logic pro for $199 today which is less than the price of each update from C-Lab and Emagic. Talk about "bang for the buck".

    • @nafawi7965
      @nafawi7965 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got started with Logic at the bridge between C-Lab and EMAGIC. I’m 55. My Atari 400 couldn’t run that stuff before getting a Mac years later. It’s funny that some young uns think Logic is GarageBand Pro. I still have my XS Key. Lol. What is provided at $199 is amazing. In may teen years, that was the cost of an excellent cassette player.

  • @scamsnl
    @scamsnl ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was a great little look back! One thing that I’d like to mention (that’s probably already been said) is that the X in “Logic Pro X” is actually a roman numeral 10. It was still/already “Logic Pro 10” when it launched, just stylized a little differently.

  • @100states6
    @100states6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    C-Lab Creator was the company's first brand and product.

    • @cybclinic
      @cybclinic ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct, back in 1987 I believe. I remember using Notator in 1989.

  • @SorayasFierceCookingShow
    @SorayasFierceCookingShow ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow. I just purchased Logic. Been a Cubase user since the late 80s. I've always been a Mac, Apple user. Got tired of paying for Cubase upgrades.i knew of Emagic in the 90's. I had one if their soundcards. I love Logic and knew about it long ago. Was a Steinberg hardhead. Wish I switched to Logic long ago. Not many folks know about Apple purchasing Emagic, s gem of a program. Thanks for message!

    • @tuxievous420
      @tuxievous420 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dang you’re a serious veteran. Do you have a SoundCloud

  • @joelonsdale
    @joelonsdale 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You leapt from 1993 to 2004 - a period of HUGE development! I feel like most of Logic's significant development took place before version 5.5...

  • @hammondboybennett1580
    @hammondboybennett1580 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Logic Pro is like the top 1 recording software in the Gospel and church community. This is very informative content

  • @apoclypse
    @apoclypse ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I've owned Logic since version 7 but have used it before since 5.5 Platinum (On Windows). It has so much history and so much functionality built in. One of the most common things I used to see on the interwebz was someone asking for a feature in Logic only for someone else to respond that it was already there.

    • @nafawi7965
      @nafawi7965 ปีที่แล้ว

      The dreaded “environment page”

  • @FLH3official
    @FLH3official ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for the video. Small details: First came Creator by C-Lab, not by "Emagic", then Notator, still by C-Lab.
    Then "Notator Logic" by Emagic. At 0:50 Notator Logic didn't run with an "USB dongle", there was a dongle but not an USB one as there was no USB on the Atari. Actualy there was no USB on our planet yet in this time. 😉

    • @flyfanger
      @flyfanger ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, I caught that too about USB. Good video though for people who don't know how Logic Pro originated.

    • @afunnylookingsquash
      @afunnylookingsquash  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I placed a correction in my pinned comment, thank you for the info! I was looking at the old manuals for the programs and hardware online and couldn't really find any specific info on it, so I had just assumed.

    • @garyhoffman1
      @garyhoffman1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, thanks for the correction. That way I didn’t have to! My first sequencer was C-Lab Creator on Atari 1040ST in 1987. I still have the software and manual. In fact, I have every version in existence. Soundiver was the absolute best universal programmer and I really wish they would bring it back now that hardware synths are so popular again.

  • @MatrixfanMacUser
    @MatrixfanMacUser ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That’s it, can’t take it anymore, subbed! This is an assault of quality content. Having watched the history of Ableton, FL, now this. Great work!

  • @billB101
    @billB101 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hardly "The Entire History of Logic Pro" here, you missed out the whole Emagic Logic mac/PC development bit in the 90's. As an early user and adopter of Logic ( from Notator onwards ) this to me is the most important piece of the history as it's actually the beginning of virtual instruments and third party plugins which at the time were a massive industry game changer. Effectively the beginning of mixing in the box and the transition from sequencer to DAW.

  • @DarkFutureConsolidated
    @DarkFutureConsolidated ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just FYI, the Notator prefix was dropped when the Atari ST became obsolete. The creator/notator moniker prior to Notator Logic was developed exclusively for the Atari ST, because the ST, unlike the Amiga, came shipped with midi ports. Creator, Notator, Notator Logic and a few other lesser known ST clones like Dr. T’s Tiger Cub(Used by Aphex Twin) Are MIDI data exclusive sequencers. Ie. incapable of audio processing. All the applied dynamic effects you mentioned were merely midi value setting command data. They didn’t affect the original signal, because there were no signals to affect. Only MIDI note data.
    Once the Atari was obsolete, they dropped the Notator, and by the late 90’s, Logic Audio was available with Audio signal processing for G3 and up Macs. And a dongle was required to launch Logic audio for every version up until the Apple buy out. My first set up was powered by a G4 Mac tower, an 8x8 Emagic Unitor rack mounted midi interface and a copied version of Logic I ripped from my mates copy cuz I couldn’t afford the software after the G4($5000) and unitor($1000). So the software was legit, but I had to run a dongle crack which was the only pirated element.
    Come 2004 I’d started using Ableton, and my early naughties broke ass never upgraded my ripped 2001 copy of Logic so I never used logic again post Apple buy out….

    • @enemysub9057
      @enemysub9057 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, they kind of had to retain the Notator name on the Atari platform to help inform users that it was the upgrade path, I guess because it didn't look like Notator anymore but more like it's rival Cubase. This of course wasn't necessary on the other platforms. Fun fact, it appears as though they did start working toward an audio version of Logic for the Atari but unfortunately it was too late, Atari was done with computers. Oddly enough though, remaining stocks of the Atari Falcon were bought and sold by C-Lab and were used to run Cubase Audio.

  • @alvintoro
    @alvintoro ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Damn bro. I don't use Logic or even remotely interested in switching DAWs and still sat through the entire video. Great job. Just gained a sub.

    • @mrflynn01
      @mrflynn01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Logic is beast mode!

  • @meeloclaes
    @meeloclaes ปีที่แล้ว +4

    why doesn’t this have at least a million views what keep making content this is so fucking good

  • @Spidouz
    @Spidouz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    11:19 Actually, Logic Pro 8 in box with all DVDs was $999, then it drops to $499… and then they drop it again to $199

  • @matiasmoulin2126
    @matiasmoulin2126 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video! Great history lesson! I wouldn't call the 90s weird though, they were just in their technological infancy. Looking back with today's perspective, it is beyond be how they created all those albums on these early computers. I cut my teeth on naughtie's movie technology and the "rendering" process was a nightmare. There were so many coffee and cigarette breaks back then... one break because of adding an effect and another one because of "undo". Maybe that's why many bad effects were kept. Yet great stuff has been created.

  • @michael_r
    @michael_r ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video. With regard to the price drop, Apple did the same thing with Final Cut Pro. It used to be like $1000 I think? Something like that. Then there was final cut express. They got rid of express and just made the Pro version cheap.

  • @PrinceSamMusic
    @PrinceSamMusic ปีที่แล้ว +4

    such a high quality and informative video! you did an amazing job, and you deserve a lot more attention

  • @nadiabirkenstock_harpsong
    @nadiabirkenstock_harpsong ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video, great research, great overview! Thank you for publishing this 😘

  • @X-101
    @X-101 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Actually Notator(also Creator) was made by C-Lab on the Atari ST before Emagic bought them

  • @blue-balance
    @blue-balance ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video! I'm 4 years new to Logic, so it's very helpful to gain an appreciation of it's earlier origins and history. Absolutely loved your informative and unbiased approach to this video.

  • @Kurenmusic
    @Kurenmusic ปีที่แล้ว +5

    keep making these history videos dude! you're about to blow

  • @Neuri
    @Neuri ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video dude hats off!! Thanks for the great info

  • @Jake_Bars
    @Jake_Bars ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your hard work. This video is awesome!

  • @MrMusicHed
    @MrMusicHed ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I started with (a loan first...) Opcode Vision... then did a competitive crossgrade to Logic in the mid 90's... synced it up to an ADAT... HOo Boy!

    • @billB101
      @billB101 ปีที่แล้ว

      Opcode Vision was a great sequencer at the time. Shame it disappeared.

  • @benderbi
    @benderbi ปีที่แล้ว

    I've being using it a lot lately and I love it. Thanks for all the info.

  • @liftbb
    @liftbb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the series man

  • @johnnydswing
    @johnnydswing ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel is a gem thanks!!!

  • @logman2315
    @logman2315 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good video, deserves more views and likes fr :)

  • @KobeKam
    @KobeKam ปีที่แล้ว

    You dope ass hell dude I binge watch these

  • @CRASS2047
    @CRASS2047 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Logic Remote is amazing. I use it for key commands. I customized the most commonly used key commands into one page.

  • @carl_47
    @carl_47 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video , thanks

  • @mrflynn01
    @mrflynn01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Master Tracks Pro 1992, was the best, great memories.

  • @tommj4365
    @tommj4365 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Usb wasn't a thing back then, it was a serial port. I still have my chunky dongle from the emagic era

  • @ajadrew
    @ajadrew ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting video - Pro 9 was where I started after a Boss 8 track - best move I made 👍😊

  • @TuffKaya
    @TuffKaya ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it. How about a throwback to Sonic Foundry’s Acid?

  • @mrflynn01
    @mrflynn01 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @user-ec3tb9xe6p
    @user-ec3tb9xe6p 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just found you and subbed. Thanks so much for your hard work! Will you do a complete study of Garage Band?

    • @afunnylookingsquash
      @afunnylookingsquash  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks :) I've made a video on GarageBand already! You can see it on my channel :)

  • @AudioMuze
    @AudioMuze 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, thanks for this. One thing I noticed is missing from your history is mentioning when recording digital audio was first introduced into Logic. I remember when this first happened. Up until then, Logic (like every other sequencing program) was midi only. I don’t know the exact date it was first introduced, but I remember upgrading to version 3 in 1997, and this was my first version with audio recording. I have an image of v3.5 in my mind. I remember the year, because I’d just moved back from the UK to Australia. As well as that big move, I upgraded to v3 (3.5?)…..and switched from a Mac (Color Classic) to a Windows machine for the first time. Which crashed more in that first week than my Mac had crashed in the last year :( But moving from midi only to audio was a HUGE change which deserves to be in your history.

  • @chriscarrington4294
    @chriscarrington4294 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    creator/notator was around in the eighties. that was the original version of logic and might have only run on atari computers.

  • @iamTovan
    @iamTovan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel you since my first primary DAW is Logic. it's a history. Thank you.

  • @leftfeelsright1968
    @leftfeelsright1968 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would love to see this kind of content on studio one also.. But I guess it's history is fairly new apart from presonus buying it out from the original creators of Kristel audio .

  • @emanuel_soundtrack
    @emanuel_soundtrack ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am a huge Logic Pro fan and admirer. I have a dedicated list of suggestions to send to Apple, I can´t wait for the upcoming updates!

  • @everybodyhasoul5438
    @everybodyhasoul5438 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Joined the Apple ecosystem bc Logic visually makes sense to my brain.

  • @Jamic9
    @Jamic9 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There was also Creator which was a cutdown version of Notator, just without the notation functionally. I bought it in 1992 to use with my Atari STE. Think it cost be about £300.

  • @michaelneal900
    @michaelneal900 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I started out on some watered down version of 3

  • @cmdess
    @cmdess ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the vid and channel, I'll add a few thoughts. The Logic "environment" page use a to be a big deal, the concealed it in recent versions. It was also too complicated for the average user. It was a bit like programming the daw and mixer for specific aspirations. Track Stacks was a huge deal in recent versions because it made the idea of the bus channel architecture much easier to use right on the arranging page. The key point of Logic over the others is it is less "clunky" and more elegant. Cubase has always had a few more features where Logic would implement them over time where applicable. The more recent versions are much more stable. The song folder structure was changed so that everything is included in one folder instead of having a separate folder for audio and a separate folder for the project files. The EXS (now called sampler) was also critical to Logics stronghold, it could also import GIGA files which where the first format to introduce "disk streaming" which made very large instruments possible utilizing a hard disk. Now with SSD hard disks the very large sample libraries load much faster and you can have many more. Processing power use to be a huge issue (overload messages). On the more speculative side, for me the DAWS summing engine was always a little bit ahead of the others because it doesn't clip like cubase when you bounce down files. The 64bit engine for Logic was also another major milestone because of the improved memory capabilities (power). They don't use "VST" anymore but I think there are wrappers. Yes dropping windows support was a huge problem. It makes sense the notation system was part of the origin because it has always operated a bit more smoothly than others and had more graphical eye candy to produce scores. Logic uses a slick automation lane system that you can engage for all tracks or disable as needed. They also recently introduced some new views and windows as well as midi effects on tracks. I've been using logic for about 20 years. It's got more features than I could ever get to.

    • @fluffycritter
      @fluffycritter 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I always loathed the Environment view and I was so glad when they added the "MIDI FX" system so that Environment was no longer necessary.

  • @austintaylor55
    @austintaylor55 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow great stuff

  • @HollywoodRecordingStudio
    @HollywoodRecordingStudio ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do one on studio one and ProTools?

  • @Serenade314
    @Serenade314 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I got my hands on “Creator”, the program preceding “Notator” in the late 80’s. The company then was called “C-Lab” which later turned into Emagic. My point being: I am old AF.

  • @jay-leeofficialcctv
    @jay-leeofficialcctv ปีที่แล้ว

    There's so much stuff I never knew about logic, it has gone through so many changes but is still top of the DAWS in my opinion.

  • @tobiaslofi
    @tobiaslofi ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this! Not many people know of Emagic Logic before Apple. It was the first DAW I saw but never used. But several people had it running on Windows. I actually started in GarageBand and later upgraded to Ableton Live and only years later when I couldn’t afford Live’s upgrade price tag did I buy Logic Pro X … and no I didn’t find it intuitive. I’ve been using Mac OS full time since 2003 and Logic was the only Apple product I never understood. I switched to SeratoStudio when it came 3 years ago. Much better for producing.

  • @JulianGrayMedia
    @JulianGrayMedia ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

    • @afunnylookingsquash
      @afunnylookingsquash  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thank you for the b roll!

    • @JulianGrayMedia
      @JulianGrayMedia ปีที่แล้ว

      @@afunnylookingsquash wait whaaaatt haha.

    • @afunnylookingsquash
      @afunnylookingsquash  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JulianGrayMedia I think I used some clips from your channel in one of my history videos and credited you in the description :)

  • @xinaesthetic
    @xinaesthetic ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’d have liked to see a bit more on the earlier history; was a bit taken aback when it went straight from it being MIDI sequencing/notating to being brought by Apple… I feel like a lot more radical changes were happening in music tech generally in those years. Maybe I just wanted to scratch the nostalgia itch from the brief period I used it around 2000-2002.

    • @stephenmarsh6746
      @stephenmarsh6746 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. The inclusion of EXS and the ability to record audio directly into Logic were huge milestones.

    • @xinaesthetic
      @xinaesthetic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stephenmarsh6746 essentially by the time Apple brought it, it had gone from being an early midi sequencer to what we now think of as a DAW, mostly distinguished from others by its patching environment. Hasn't every change since then been fairly incremental and in many cases mostly cosmetic?

    • @broklanders4730
      @broklanders4730 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed. The most important changes happened between v.3.5 and v.platinum 5.5.1 - which was the last Windows version. I worked 4 years still with Logic after Emagic was sold to Apple. Then i was kinda forced to switch, because it became more and more incompatible and unstable with back then "recent" VST Plugins. And though i'm kinda happy with Studio One and Bitwig Studio, i really miss Logic. Simply _nothing_ was able to beat the workflow philosophy of screensets and content-linked Editors. And due to Apples "one window" philosophy they had to drop exactly _this_ idea. Plus they dropped hyperdraw (which i was using constantly) as well as hyperedit. So on Mac it actually can never be the same golden workflow.

  • @brendanhoffmann8402
    @brendanhoffmann8402 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved Logic pro X for the time I used it but the Mac I had was just not powerful enough. (2015 MacBook Pro). Nice to know I'll have a licence with Apple if I ever get a better Mac but now I use a PC, which is much much more powerful, (Ableton 11 on my PC). I bought guitar rig pro last year and the MacBook just crapped itself so had to upgrade.

  • @thevictorydrive
    @thevictorydrive 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video is awesome. Thank you! I remember buying Logic 8 at guitar center for like $599 or so lol yikes 😳
    And it took all day to install. It was so many cds lol

  • @superviewer
    @superviewer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was into Amiga trackers in the 80's/90's, and my first Logic was version 4 running in Mac OS 9. One thing distracts me here. To many viewers the 90's was just another decade in life. Perhaps make it less about your own age perspective and more about the subject. It could improve longevity :) Besides that, very cool concept.

  • @aidenx.ruiz-oficial-3283
    @aidenx.ruiz-oficial-3283 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you so history of MainStage plz, I would like for you to educate us on that plz and thank you God bless

  • @user-or3ce4gt2r
    @user-or3ce4gt2r ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! Great work 🎉… I started with Logic 2.5 . Still going strong ( and far cheaper today )

  • @mattshalash
    @mattshalash ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Forgot to mention all things camel audio

  • @Saeedathar
    @Saeedathar ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing Video ... How the hell did you get the screenshots from 1990 ... lol .... I started using in 2002 ... it was a 4 track back then and Emagic just does it to Apple ....

  • @onimisilovesonmusic4548
    @onimisilovesonmusic4548 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This guys is good

  • @krisrodgersthedirtygems822
    @krisrodgersthedirtygems822 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just here to say I remember Netscape….
    Also great video!

  • @BobSchusterMusiccom
    @BobSchusterMusiccom ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started out on Notator in hopes of not having to copy charts. Hah! I could always write faster by hand. The sequencing was dorky but the flavor of the era. The Atari computer was a great music computer. That went the way of the dodo. Still with Logic.

  • @alexanderfavell
    @alexanderfavell ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video, I am still rocking 10.2. advice to anyone who wants, keep your machine off-line. Well that is if you don't import audio like splice.

    • @snesmocha
      @snesmocha ปีที่แล้ว +1

      all my audio is offline still lol, but ilok....................... 💀absolute pain to deal with

    • @flyfanger
      @flyfanger ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree - too many "updates" run in the background which can sometimes screw things up if you're always connected. And you can run trial versions of your fav plugins perpetually if you never connect to the internet. ;-)

  • @johntooker5623
    @johntooker5623 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The OG dongle wasn't USB it was ADB if my memory isn't failing me.

    • @afunnylookingsquash
      @afunnylookingsquash  ปีที่แล้ว

      i read this giant manual for the original notator log 3 and i couldn't really find any specific info on it other than a few pics, so i just assumed. good to know!

    • @johntooker5623
      @johntooker5623 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@afunnylookingsquash Yeah USB came out ~1996 but the first time I remember it being promoted was the original iMac from 1998 that dropped ADB/SCSI in favor of just USB ports. It was a while before I started seeing it on most PCs.

    • @enemysub9057
      @enemysub9057 ปีที่แล้ว

      The OG dongle jammed into the cartridge port on the side of an Atari and was kind of cool because it was also a dongle for Notator SL, as well as a MIDI interface. But yeah, the OG dongles for the Mac and PC predated USB.

  • @thisathema
    @thisathema 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You forgot buying camel audio, who are responsible for alchemy.

  • @chillwalker
    @chillwalker ปีที่แล้ว

    1998, I worked as a FFF producer at the "Metra Studios Cologne". My Boss, Constantin Ende, was a good Friend of Mr. Lengeling. So we got to Beta Test every new Version, when Logic was still Emagic and running on PC too.
    And now, I will tell you the last Thing Lengeling said in private to our team about "Logic" before his Company "Emagic" went 100% to apple:
    "FINALLY I CAN FINISH THE SONG I INVENTED LOGIC FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE!"
    no kidding!

  • @ignyification
    @ignyification ปีที่แล้ว

    please do cakewalk next

  • @jokbeatz
    @jokbeatz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First version i purchased was Logic 8.. i believe it was the "basic" version, because the one with all the samples was extremely expensive
    and here i am, still using Logic! not version 8 thankfully 😅
    Edit -> the videos says it, Logic Express!

  • @ElizkBeatz
    @ElizkBeatz ปีที่แล้ว

    Protools video would be great!

  • @blakeradcliffe6110
    @blakeradcliffe6110 ปีที่แล้ว

    One highlight you forgot to mention is Logic 4 in 1999. Logic 4 introduced a whopping 34 processing plugins, including:
    Ensemble
    Fat EQ
    Silver EQ
    DJ EQ
    Parametric EQ
    High Shelf Filter
    Low Shelf Filter
    High Cut Filter
    Low Cut Filter
    Low Pass Filter
    High Pass Filter
    Compressor
    Silver Compressor
    Expander
    Noise Gate
    Silver Gate
    Distortion
    Overdrive
    Bitcrusher
    Oscillator
    AutoFilter
    Spectral Gate
    Tape Delay
    Modulation Delay
    Chorus
    Flanger
    Phaser
    Pitch Shifter
    Platinumverb
    Goldverb
    Silververb
    Enverb
    Volume
    Dither

    • @fluffycritter
      @fluffycritter 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And every single one of them is still a part of Logic today in some form (although some are now "legacy" or have been combined together into multifunction plugins).

  • @LevitskiSRGE
    @LevitskiSRGE หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just trying to use Logic, because 4/5 gigs of ableton are to much for my intel macbook. And... you can feel the legacy. For example the UI of the ES synths.

  • @thaddeuscorea
    @thaddeuscorea 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Solid. I've been on Logic since around v4 ('99-ish). physical manual with obvious German-as-a-first-language editing problems. LOL.

  • @chadmiller8725
    @chadmiller8725 ปีที่แล้ว

    90s weren't weird dude. It is called invention, development, evolution and progression - like every single thing with staying power ever made. The year MIDI was introduced (1983) to us bands pounding away in funky house jam spaces was glorious. Meant we could expand the creative process with less people and in smaller spaces with big sound. The DAW has all but pretty much killed off big industry studios minus the last legacy & label studios hanging by a thread staying alive almost exclusively on movie scoring, commercial voice over and high paid mainstream recording artists. But it is coming to an end soon. Bedroom bangers and large scale professional 'home' studios are casted in stone for the future. As a guitarist, all of this tech last 40+ years has been awesome. I have used so much of it and the DAWS are fantastic. Been a Garageband, Logic Pro and now a REAPER fanatic due to the customization ability. Love all this stuff!! Enjoying your videos - keep them coming 🤘

  • @TheMirolab
    @TheMirolab หลายเดือนก่อน

    I started with Emagic Creator on the Atari-ST with the multi-port dongle. By the time Logic was ported over to the Mac, I was making a bit more money, and could finally afford a Mac! I got a Centris 650 and Emagic Logic (v3 I think) and it's been my primary Sequencer & DAW ever since. Logic Rules!!!

  • @niganools1502
    @niganools1502 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I love logic💯

  • @Bloogy250Canada
    @Bloogy250Canada ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do one on pro-tools i wanna know about it

  • @mrpotatohead34
    @mrpotatohead34 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    BRO i had no idea there were so many versions of this program, really extensive look at Logic Pro!

  • @ruslanr.6171
    @ruslanr.6171 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:47 yes, Alchemy is great, but it has nothing to do with Apple, it was made by Camel Audio and I bought that Alchemy VST year before Camel Audio was bought by Apple and closed leaving me with no updates for my 200$ synth.

  • @haskeymorrison
    @haskeymorrison 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    6:00 that’s a windows calendar

  • @richardorton918
    @richardorton918 ปีที่แล้ว

    I seem to remember the c-lab notator didn’t have an arrange view as we know it, it had a bizarre pattern based arrangement,

    • @enemysub9057
      @enemysub9057 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, and the piano roll ran top to bottom.

    • @jimifiTube
      @jimifiTube 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, I feel like it something like lanes “A,B,C & D” that you could put groups of tracks together in. And it was a vertical arrangement with no scroll line.

  • @ianconklinmusic
    @ianconklinmusic ปีที่แล้ว

    4:50
    I make music on Garagband iOS (on iPad) and it is super capable.

  • @Mrlogic10
    @Mrlogic10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I went through all this from Notator SL to the newest version but it's great to see it in one video thank you!

  • @yungesco2267
    @yungesco2267 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    could it run serum tho?

  • @N8oRMusic
    @N8oRMusic ปีที่แล้ว

    I started on MicroLogic back in '96. Been a Logic user ever since. It really is the best DAW to this day. Why fool yourself otherwise?

  • @mesganadesta8146
    @mesganadesta8146 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thee was cubsae in 1982.

  • @cropcircle5693
    @cropcircle5693 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow this just skipped from "here's the most basic beginning of the thing" (which you spent an unnecessary amount of time on) to "Ok now it's the thing you know about." The 5 years you skipped are actually the most interesting part. The Emagic story is way better than "Apple came along and did what they always do."
    As a music producer from that time period I can tell you, they changed everything as a small independent German company. They were far beyond all competitors and truly innovated the industry. Pro Tools users had the great hardware but I can tell you, they were jealous of Logic. The sale to Apple ended all of that. I was actually able to use Logic 5 (pre Apple) until 2006 as a working producer before I felt like anybody truly caught up to it, including the subsequent Apple releases. The truth is, in those years they stripped out features for the Mac users and focused heavily on Garageband integration. They were focused on making it standard with the MAC OS as a value add. I could do things in logic 5 that Apple removed from Logic 6 and so on. They kind of let Logic drift for years with superficial updates. I can also tell you that the conversion rate from PC to MAC did not work in their favor. There was a reason why we were all using PC's, and Apple once again gave us reasons to keep it that way.
    Apple took Logic from being the one and only industry leader, to being just another DAW. A good one, but just one of many and nowhere near innovative or interesting enough to change an entire workflow and hardware over. Their proprietary elitist mindset is the death of all their products. Logic was an opportunity for them to change that and they doubled down.

    • @flyfanger
      @flyfanger ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool. But having said all that you have to admit that Logic Pro today is PRETTY DAMN GOOD! It just keeps getting better and better. I hope you're still using it.

    • @cropcircle5693
      @cropcircle5693 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@flyfanger You didn't read my post

  • @Mcsteveberry
    @Mcsteveberry ปีที่แล้ว

    great video! was expecting 400k views but... wow

  • @BenjaminJBromley
    @BenjaminJBromley ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait… you went straight from notator logic to apple’s acquisition without ever mentioning the blue dongle!

    • @billB101
      @billB101 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There's whole ton of stuff that was missed out before Apples acquisition in this video to be honest. Pretty much the most important parts of the software going from a sequencer to a DAW.

  • @emanuel_soundtrack
    @emanuel_soundtrack ปีที่แล้ว

    the score editor is a disnossaur, they have to go back to roots and update it

  • @jaffasplaffa1
    @jaffasplaffa1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video ;)
    All though I think the back story of how Apple got the Alchemy synth into Logic would have been nice.
    Story of Alchemy:
    Apple bought Camel Audio and got Alchemy. Step FX and Phat FX also comes from Camel Audio.
    They are all great and they were a great edition to Logics instruments and effects.

    • @broklanders4730
      @broklanders4730 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually there's no big stroy beind it. Ben Gillett was running his company "Camel Audio". And once Alchemy was released, only a short time later (i think a year or two or so), Apple bought Camel Audio. With a snap. Afaik with all employers (of which i believe at that time it was 3 people next to Ben - his wife and two others). That's pretty much it.

    • @tronam
      @tronam ปีที่แล้ว

      @@broklanders4730 And it looks like Ben is still working at Apple today. I'm happy for him, even if I can understand PC folks feeling salty over the shutdown of the company.

    • @broklanders4730
      @broklanders4730 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tronam - oh yes, i know he's still working for Apple, just like almost everyone of the former Emagic staff.

  • @HBKman1
    @HBKman1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Underrated channel