2b2t's History of Incursions
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 เม.ย. 2019
- A look into some of the most famous conflicts from Minecraft's oldest anarchy server, 2b2t.org.
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When a minecraft server has it's own civics, politics, government, and archeology.
Not to mention its own pantheon and conspiracies.
This is when you allow a new world to begin again with seemingly no limits
And history
It’s called entropy, even in chaos there will be emergent order always.
@JT actually.. housemaster could actually be their God because he is the admin
I love how this random guy named Jared is like the Nero or Stalin of 2b2t lmao
the Fontaine of 2b2t?
Lmfao ikr
And Popbob is a demon of chaos and wickedness
Fogle
Jared the Great and Unfortunate
In Minecraft days, 2 months is 24 years.
In game, they held the second spawn incursion for nearly two and a half decades.
Wow
like a real war!
So that means this comment was made 24 Minecraft years ago
@@tianosbits no it doesn’t
No wonder they were pooped.
20:39 Someone in chat says “WHERE DO I REPORT HACKERS”. Little did they know, they were on a server where the hackers reported the non hackers.
Lol
I also write the same when I joined 2b2t first in pe
@@pardeepgarg2640 holup its java how did you join on pe?
@@DeltaV_ because bedrock can’t join Java but Java can’t join Bedrock
what
also it probably could be a pocket edition version (likely a knockoff]
Minecraft: this is a chill game to calm down and relax
Players: Let’s make a world were we slaughter and build eternally
MINECRAFT IS NOT A LEGO KID GAME
Not anymore, it’s turned into eternal Stalingrad
It's literally game of thrones
@@loreman2803 eternal stalingrad lol
@@loreman2803 lmao
This is literally a legit war. Supply routes, bases, fatigue, rosters, enemies, missions, hierarchies etc. Jesus Christ man
These are humans playing after all.
Jesus Christ will soon be avaible in the server
this was actually 7 wars
[Classic] 1st Spawn Invasion [1st Incursion] (2013)
[Classic] 2nd Spawn Invasion [2nd Incursion] (2013)
[Classic] 3rd Incursion [Last Classic Incursion] (2015)
[Modern] 4th Incursion [Early Rusher War] (2016)
[Modern] 5th Incursion [Late Rusher War] (2016)
[Modern] 6th Incursion [Great Unification] (2018)
[Modern] 7th Incursion [False Incursion] (2018)
So yeah, it's a ton of history, and almost like a digital series of the Purge, but is longer than a day, and is probably better.
Game of thrones: Incursion
@@VinnieJonny As the last boss and yes drop the relic of destruction
Lol I could see someone screaming in chat “THERES A HACKER”
First time? Lol
I think that was the death rattle of an edgy 9 year old.
Woah, no way!
@@pietrocatalano4285 GUYS I JUST FOUND A HACKER IN 2B2T GET EXPOSED
@@knatspray IM BANNING HIM RIGHT AWAY
Jared : I want to be famous
Literally everyone : Sure, now everyone is well aware how much of as failure you are.
Oh damn you scorched him after 2 years
I just discovered that Jared2013 is famous, after meeting him on a small server with about 20 players.
Now all of China knows you're here - moment
Can't believe that a freaking Minecraft server has such a history.
it IS the oldest server
It's really beautiful
@@jakobluts8463 lol damn.. this video felt pretty epic tho, u saying is overexaggerated ? :(((
@@jakobluts8463 why are you watching it then smh
@@markwoollon well most of the people here watching him enjoy his content
I feel like 2b2t is literally its own game, it’s not even Minecraft anymore.
Proud internet citizen at this point in a way it just may be.
At what point does minecraft stop being a game, and start being a game engine?
No, 2b2t is literally its own world.
no it is still Minecraft hypixle shows us the best of the community and 2b2t shows us the worst of it
Mr Leg Idk about hypixel, it’s really just a normal server, but 2b2t is something else entirely.
Jared isn't the smartest but damn is he a good villain.
Yup
He's a good failure.
He is like Part 1 Dio Brando. Only seeked power and didn't have a well established plan of action.
@ wow fellow JoJo fan
Hateable, too.
"CorruptedUnicorn the _leader_ of the Resistance unexpectedly switched sides before the battle"
Well no wonder they lost, there's no leader
Behead the snake and the rest of it dies
@@lordfawful9469 blow the snake up with dynamite and they all die in an instant
@@lordfawful9469 cut off a snakes head and the body starts moving, but doesn't know where.
@@travisscottlover911 cut off the snake body and the head will be confused.
@@seankrkovich2869 cut off the snake head and it cannot give head anymore
You guys dying in skywars while these guys are trying to create a government.
“Trying“
"Trying"
“Trying”
"Trying"
"Trying"
So basically, there have been 7 World Wars in your server
No that are incursion not war,
The era of incursion is to and end,
The era of the total war is close to start!
@@eliafranzini8038 ????
Dam
@@lt.bagelbites6969 *Damn
@Slavic Steve no infact im italian, i still learning english.
No one would ever expect, the SPANISH INCURSION
ELRICH SE HA UNIDO AL SERVER
Me no speak english
@@seankrkovich2869 explain your comment on backstabbing
@@harlowatkins6628 when I was playing factions, it was really fun trying to figure out how not to get my base blown up and my everything destroyed. I remember when I was a scrub and made a wooden base. Naturally it was burned down the next day.
N o. I want a *Hispanic incursion* so that Mexicans can rule 😎
Alt Title: War veteran tells his different stories about fighting in several world wars.
WW1: Zeppelins
WW2: Nuclear bombs
WW3: End crystal explosions
WW5: deathstars
WW6: solar system destroying black holes
WW8: Galaxy destroying devices
WW10 withers
@@crusaderiii477 very good one I love STAR WARS
This is what the children of 2119 will be hearing at History class
Ben ik het mee eens.
In this class kids we will be learning about 2b2t.
@@thijs2k Ik ook
Minecraft history class would actually be the best thing ever
Im down
Corrupted unicorn is like "welp the resistance is losing time to switch"
The mycelium resistance
@@TuxicToiger he pulled an Italy on him
I want a ton of animators to get together, and animate the entirety of 2b2t history, it would be war, betrayal, broken friendships, and would be awesome
Yes, a 2b2t movie would be so awesome.
Honestly it would just be old players committing war crimes against newer players and ruining their experience
@@foxpro3002 series*
Exactly what we need bro 😁
Grandpa: I survived world war 2
Me: I survived 7 of them
Stuf
Lololo underrated comment
shut up.
@@abrick6002 stuff?
Grandpa: Please, tell me how on the living hell did you survive 7 world wars?
Historian: I have been on a minecraft server that weaponises autism.
When an Anarchy Server without Rules actually creates World Wars and Factions that function with their own rules. Isn't that how our World became a thing? lol
This is moderatly deep
further evidence our universe is a simulation
@@georginho36 or it just shows how we as a people operate
Joshatron yup
Remember when Taiwan invaded?
17:50 the french be like "quick! lets escape spawn while the americans are asleep!" lol
It absolutely delights me to learn that someone out htere holds the title of "the anarchy server's greatest civil engineer"
_1914 : World War I_
_1939 : World War II_
_2013 - 2019(Or Now) : Minecraft War_
Shiino Erika is starting another war
@@mjyepez3263 *Erika*
New player here, is 2b2t really that hostile to new players? How tf do i join then?
@@mjyepez3263 ETIKA*
World war |||
Top 3 epic suicidal attacks
3.kamikaze
2.suicidal bombers
1.End crystal sacrifice
*epic*
Pretty sure kamikaze and suicide bombers mean the same
Epic
Desmonetisação kamikaze is a suicide bomber. They would fill their planes with explosives them ram them into ships
Dk Mongolia suicide bombers are epic?
I love the seriousness around a video game. Like the jared fabricating evidence screenshot showing how the person who exposed him has photos asking him to fabricate evidence
The incursions are like the crusades, the first were successful, the rest not so much, but there was one in the middle that was pretty good. Also, towards the end they were started as sort of obligitory and were weak.
*Meanwhile, I calmly finish my dirt house in singleplayer*
Okay...
Damn its fucken BauLAD from CWRP. Didnt expect to find you here.
If I was building some of this stuff. I’d die so much falling off
@@arty7122 Really...damn how long have you been playing minecraft for its just a few blocks lmao
BauLAD that’s cool , as long as you had fun(:
today i learned the following
-history
-military tactics/lessons
-the power of the people/teamwork
-the power of the media
-the foolery of the 5th incursion general
-the power of goals
5th incursion general/7th incursion dictator
That's more than I learned last year in history class.
Such a good sum up
@@paradox_turtles2812 ah, the power hungry. they might fall out but they always come back.
1000th liker
This video was like Art of War. Fit gave so many lessons on how an incursion should be conducted. The next incursion should be massive, and have a pretty big command structure to maintain progress and control of members
19:57 random kid in chat: *ThErS’3 A huCKeR111!1!1!1!1!1*
Hmm it seems this floor is made out of floor
Also kid:lets play on 2b2t
ZOMG HUCKER HELP!!11!1!1!1!!!11
No shit sherlock
was just a humble farmer when the 6th incursion started, I survived but my house and.... and my dog didn't make it
Oh damn..
CRIKEYLAD John wick
*aggressively walks down to basement with sledge hammer*
Concrete floor: oh shit, here we go again
We were all affected in some way or another...
wait ur dog was ur wife
Mans sounds like hes teaching a history class
He IS teaching, teaching the story of 2b2t!
now hush child let him speak
We all want to hear him tell his tale
*_he is_*
I know right
The 7th Incursion:
Jared: I'm gonna end this man's career.
2b2t has more lore than the dream smp and it’s not even roleplay
Yeah
Dream SMP literally is based on roleplay and lore, 2b2t is literally anarchy with nobody being able to force people to join them. All of the lore on 2b2t is natural, Dream SMP’s is artificial.
@@duelios. yes
@@michaelc.8712 dreamsmp is cringe
This is real nerd war
@@michaelc.8712 but nobody cares if you didn't ask
Dude is talkin like he was part of the Roman Empire
He was
Ikr
yeah its minecraft not the cold war
because this is talking about the punic wars duh
@@SawyerRockey stfu doomer
TH-camrs: *Exist*
2b2t Veterans: *_It's treason,then_*
*Palpatine screeching intensifies*
I never thought I would find a Star Wars meme here
@@dinoluka11 you again
back to reddit
@@RustoKomuska Jokes on you, I don't belong to that hellhole of a website.
Shoutout to Onachron at 19:46 in the chat for their complete bravery.
💀
NAHHHHHH
I just looked up Toriel and I am beyond disgusted.
Corrupted unicorn switched sides before the battle
ITALY INTESIFIES
Haha WWI joke
"the rushers were cornered from both sides"
GERMANY INTENSIFIES
This world is a literal boys locker room
No. 2b2t smells better
BlitzYT so true
joshatron awsome how do you know what it smells like. It probably smells like sweat also
(NinjaPanda 236) 2b2t is an open space so I don’t think it would smell that bad and also the places that do smell bad would probably smell more like gunpowder and ozone Guessing from the amount of explosives they use. But who knows. Maybe it smells like a slaughter house with two million dead bodies decaying and releasing there bowels because of the amount of people they kill on the server? Just a thought.
@@joshatronawsome7412 I'd think spawn would smell the worst lol
This guy is like a war veteran telling his stories
@Retarded BLU Soldier [TF2 AA] woah that guy's a legend
Careful
He's a hero
@@puffy729 ok zoomer
@Retarded BLU Soldier [TF2 AA] team vet was (atleast i think) founded in the rusher war of 2016. vets vs rushers
Hes not like one...he is one!!! he was in the 3rd and 5th incursions you know!
I find the history of 2b2t so interesting! It's like watching an entire alternate universe. I wish i was a part of this fron the begining...
Jared: I used the incursion to destroy the incursion.
“Asgard II”
These men just predicted endgame
Actually in the norsh religion Asgard would have been destroyed and Asgard 2 would rise
@@potatoesareneat746 well i never knew that
@@potatoesareneat746 i think its norse mythology
Yeah I think your right
There was also a second Asgard in the comics that was in Oklahoma (I think)
Old players: gets upset
New players: new mission - *survive*
Hudson Sanderson Don’t mess with the *fit* ness you will get recked
Yep
I’m planing to get java edition just so I could be on 2b2t
@@floati9060 same but they say rthat you'll have to wait like 12 hours to play so not a good idea
Shrey Patel yeah
19:54 theres a guy saying THERES A HACKER
HES TRYING TO HIT ME
in the chat
xD
I like it how you talk about these things in such a way that it really draws you in to the story
It's actually how insane how players can band together and actually create realistic situations on a world in a video game where everything is cubed.
Make a game that is semi-realistic, put it online and humanity is shown
It's hardly realistic
I once witnessed a massacre of farmers in Arma3. Humanity can get very disturbing.
@@yourunclejohn984 yet still realistic enough
Ralph Dominic Villarias Nice lmao
TH-camr: I'm gonna play on 2b2t
Everyone: *that's mad talk for someone within incursion distance*
Isn't like...EVERYWHERE incursion distance???
lol
@@TheActualMrLink precisely.
I knew I wasnt the only one who thought about the crusades.
Le epic jojo reference
Whenever he says “incursions” all I can think of are the frog aliens from Ben 10.
lol yess
IT STARTED WHEN AN ALIEN DEVICE DID WHAT IT DID!
What
So true
Peace in 2b2t: small grieving, some fights
War in 2b2t: history of incursions
I'm thinking on making my thesis in college about the 2b2t server.
RFN Kami what are you in anthropology?
culture and language?
Thebes and Sound?
@@thewanders6826 this made me wheeze hahaha 2b2t's greatest civil engineer haha
I'd give you an A+
I was doin school work while listening to this and accidentally called the French revolution the "the French incursion.
Stop I'm dying lmao
I mean you're not wrong
Technically you’re not wrong term wisw
I realized that Jared actually was unstable as heck as Robespierre
Both of em Kicked loyalists that dosen't do much activity
Both were Maniacs
Both of em were Once Leaders
Mateo Rios coincidence? I THINK NOT
The 4th incursion felt like a dragon ball z battle. A powerful foe shows up, destroys everything, then threatens something that breaks the other party, the other party gets really mad and beats the shit out of them. It reminds me most of the Goku vs Freiza fight because of the sequence of events, and it also reminded me of the vegito vs buu fight because it required team veteran who didn't really want to cooperate, to cooperate.
"A new form of combat was emerging... Crystal Combat":
Queue the Incursion taking Meth to increase performance
this reminds me of a certain european country that used a certain food to increase performance in the 1940s
When you realize that a Minecraft server has a better story than infinity war
this man is a preacher. 31 in queue rn
Ikr
lmao true
I'm active on a server with a wiki
2b2t the movie? Heh I will be rich
The way Jared took over the 7th incursion is incredibly similar to Stalin's rise to power.
Dude this shit should be looked into by scientists for actual war causes and stuff. VERY cool
@@AGGSab real wars arent caused because of autism
Jonas Tisell I meant the last incursion how it was caused by a power hungry ruler
@@AGGSab r/wooosh
Jonas Tisell you ever read about how 4chan got the CIA to drone strike an ISIS training base
Dang, that music in the start over the gameplay goes perfect with this video. Honestly the music in the start makes me feel like this is a epic scene in like an anime or show or gameplay
What is it called?
@@spender7942 my question too
@@Sc0tt_e it’s conditioned to hate final fantasy XV
@@spender7942 cheers g
Bro that intro music... it sets the stage perfectly
What's the name of it?
@@kds5294 FFXV Episode Ardyn OST - Conditioned to Hate (Insomnia theme) extended
Makes game of thrones look like a tea party
It makes Russian sleep experiment look like a funny story
It makes having hard poop and not being to poop it out like dust
This makes antivaxxers seem smart
Dude i want to buy pc minecraft
Devoringdemonsoul Q
GOD DAMN IT YOU RUINED THE CHAIN
Now THIS is the true minecraft storymode
it has better writing than it too
Storymode had Boomtown. 2b2t is Nuketown.
2b2t the mc Chernobyl
0 subscribers with no videos challenge yes I remember loving it when I was 11-13 but know that I’m 16 I went back to it for nostalgia and it had so much bad, childish dialogue and I went to season 2 witch I loved more so yeah
Been watching all these 2b2t videos I had always heard of it but just started playing Minecraft last November. This is so fascinating. Madness. I’m glad I was late because now I get to see the history ❤️ it’s isn’t over.
It's incredible how an old Minecraft server can be so full of history.
I feel like I'm watching a documentary about World Wars and the way he talks about them and the way he sounds make me feel very into it. He's a very good narrator.
Minecraft.
Only this word
It's cringe
Dude I thought my stories in minecraft were the coolest untill I found this youtube channel
@@PrinceJes bro you just posted cringe bro! you're going to loose subscribers!
@@nutanddash8552
:O noooo
Damn it only took 3 seconds for him to say “oldest anarchy server”
Not even a record though lmao
In, every, single, god, damn, video
I’ve never played Minecraft but I still find these 2b2t vids fascinating. Fell down the rabbit hole today… and have been enjoying the history.
I mostly just lured people underground as a redstone maniac. Just found your channel and had no clue this wild war was happening on the surface.
grandchild: what did you do when you were younger?
veterans: son, i was part of the -crusades- incursions.
adrianna maxine 500 likes no comments
So you call your grandchild your son?
It's amazing how human nature can reflect itself in a game like this and grow to mirror that is real life. These full scale wars sound crazy.
Game servers are a reflection of the nature of certain human groups, they can have a very intricate (and interesting) history. Wich makes this video awesome.
As a true sandbox game, minecraft does reflect us as a species very well. Where you can destroy the whole world, take all of its resources, band together and form large groups etc etc. Eventually certain rules will be agreed upon so that the tribes or groups survive and grow.
Syphist Prime minecraft can perfectly be a thesis for a sociological, psychological or political essay or really any social study work. It really blows my mind 🤯
Too bad this server is so full and I'm not a pro so I feel morally against me joining. I'd just clog up the server :(
And I love the idea of being a part of the history of something and seeing it happen before my eyes too.
yo who else would watch a Scorcese-esque character study war film about 2b2t lol
Why is it, that I hate to learn history, but I want to know this? 😂
Because Minecraft is more fun then learning about charlmagne for the 50th time
@@Skywarslord true
@@Skywarslord and cuz ur sitting in class for an hour
It’s like listening to grandpa tell stories about the war
The history of this server is more interesting than some parts of actual history
first time i have actually wanted to learn history damn this is fascinating
Aaliyah Wood well of course an incursion is more interesting than someone taking a shit at 3 am with dysentery
Ikr
I mean technically 2b2t is a part of actual history if you think about it
*most
I was around the 3rd incursion when the soldiers came and took people to bolster the ranks, i resisted and they withered my wife and kids... I became an obsidian slave, forced to mine until one of the enemy squads breached the base and freed all the black diamond miners. 10/10
Respect
We have a rare species here: a world war 3 veteran
Slavery still exists
"Black diamond miners"
2B2T: Alright let's do this Incursion!
Jared: *cracks fingers* Ahh, looks like it's time to screw everything up.
Btw, if your wondering. The music at the beginning was FFXV Conditioned to hate.
Thank you
Guy in chat
"THERE'S A HACKER!"
...no shit?
Bruh
" Oh god let's kill him "
Buh
"WhErE Do I RePoRt HaCkErS" XD
@@haliwagner5231 " in the chatt of newcommers , man "
This should become a psychology and sociology study point.
The fact this precisely mirrors human behaviour in real life with all the wars and fights is hilarious
@@spiderdian2 not essentially hilarious, preposterously interesting most definitely.
@@spiderdian2 its surely interesting to watch ,still I just dont get whats the pt of all the incrusions wars, so stupid Lmao . Like I mean I get why some ppl love griefing , but these large scaled so called " War to pRoTEct OuR HOOOOOOme" are happenning because the old players ,aka veterans😂 , are getting upset that more new players joining in the server ?? Hell nah its so inmature and its like dogs barking when someone enters their home or sth
@@jacksonli6710 just like real life.
Jackson Li you have probably never played any anarchy type server on mc. It is lots of fun to fight for something you believe and meet a lot of people that share your belief. I made a lot of friendships on this server. Its all just for fun. But sometimes people take it too seriously aka “7th incursion”
I love how the community and server is complex and deep enough that there was such a thing as greatest civil engineer
“Incursions are dead.”
Infinity Incursion: Oh, I don’t think so.
I feel like 2B2T is just ancient history in Minecraft with all the stuff that goes down
A lot of servers have history like this
nobody which ones? I’m bored
Ever seen game of thrones?
Thetreeboy no game of thrones is shitty siries because season 8
and RTgame's server
Minecraft, a game already with the tools to basically create a civilization and soceity, also has a server that can emulate the most complex, outrageous, and brutal concept in existence. War.
I you think of it like that it sounds scary
War is literally the thing all of humanity share
With all the civilisations in the world you’ll see the common ground between all of em is war
DrQuasi chaos... chaos is the thing we all have
I love how all the classic incursions were all by the same group
It's really fun to hear the history from someone who was actually REALLY INVOLVED in the history.
Finding wildlife in 2b2t is like finding a single tree in a nuclear apocalypse
Adrian Cornac finding a single tree in 2b2t is like finding a single tree in a nuclear apocalypse...
Finding 2b2t in wildlife is like finding a single nuclear apocalypse in a tree
@@fatalos6855 Finding a single oldest anarchy server in minecraft in a 2b2t is like finding an oldest anarchy server in minecraft on minecraft
Well if you're like a few thousand blocks away from spawn you could find some
And then you grief it just to be sure.
Can't have nature growing all over the place, it's gross.
The dude's voice and the music is making this seem more intense than it needs to be
KaL and I LOVE it
Ikr
@@surfexcel9178 That is what is giving him popularity, but the best thing is this server has better history than the actual World, lmao
This is basically the history channel at 2 AM
It’s a game about cube block people and it’s so intense
I find it so cool that you were part of some of these incursions!
Fit, u make me wanna start on this server sooo bad, i would volonteer to be in a video of you were you are tryin to assist a new player out of spawn that would be so amazing... i also think playin with you and your group alters the experience pretty much, cause you guys take this very seriusly... im a good builder and im willing to give my services to any group your part of
It’s funny how much stuff there is to watch instead of revising for a Chemistry exam
Let yourself be part of the history...
The moral of the story is..
Just play lan with your friends
unless you want to live in crusades on THE OLDEST ANARCHY SERVER IN MINECRAFT
Ian???
@@AFrame06 Lan, so your friends can join your world workout making a server or realm
Ohhhh LAN on my tablet it looks like the name Ian so I can get those confused sometimes
@@AFrame06 oh oki
I know more about 2b2t history than I do for my own country
Fit: 2b2t culture was not being respected !
me: What's 2b2t culture ?
Others: not respecting anyone in the server.
Imagine this server but with Galacticraft -
Entire planets being colonized, taken over, and raided
that would actually be amazing
What about the Droid attack on the wookies?
Someone has to make this. Maybe also with industrialcraft?
By 9 year olds.
Imagine it with ICBM.
Can we turn 2bt2s history into a dark fantasy type show? like god damn 2b2t has better story than most shows, movies, and games. lol
Ikr!
It could be a awesome game or animated serie!
thats bc its real life
it would ruin the history if it was a show no plot armour just fax
RavelTheOne I would PAY to watch that
Guys its not actually that epic as fit portrays it.
Everyone: incursions are over
MrBeast: joins 2b2t
Everyone: *forms 10th incursion in under an hour
Jared2013 is like the starscream of 2b2t; always scheming, always failing, ever ambitious, but never learning.
This server has without a doubt, THE most interesting history I have ever heard to this day...I hope this server never goes dark.
Too bad I can't be a part of it.
Saddest
Data is corropting in 2b2t so the server might reset
@Undercover Fbi, I heard almost 10 years of history possibly lost
The end is coming. So much war, so much death, all of it pales in comparison to what is to come. The dying world will end, and not even house master wields the power to stop it.
Gotta love when a “celebration of culture” involves building a wall to keep newcomers out
LMAO
The server isn’t for the faint of heart
Sounds like the US.
life imitates art
@@chidile7567 unless, like me, you're okay with dying all the time
The song in the beginning is FFXV Episode Ardyn OST - Conditioned to Hate (Insomnia theme) extended if anyone is wondering
I've considered visiting 2b2t just to explore and see the sights but I've heard there are spawn campers that won't let you go anywhere so that'd be a bit of an issue to say the least.