Just the FACT that Kevin Stefanski was awarded COTY not once, not ONLY ONCE, but twice, in five years, shows you what a joke these awards are. Dude is like a clueless deer in the headlights on a country road at two AM with a laminated play calling sheet in front of his snout (up until a few weeks ago, admittedly) but is STILL, STILL, STILL, equally as clueless. I have given up on this team, but in closing, I will say, I DID get a kick out of the - of course - defensive backfield celebrating the dropped passes, overthrown (although with Lamar, there weren't many) passes and the occasional break ups they did manage from the Ravens, with the obligatory patty cake antics, country line dancing and hand on hips, arm in the air "Saturday Night Fever" moves, all while they were one, two, or even three scores down on their way to their fourteenth LOSS of the year. You can't even make this EMBARRASSMENT or ISH up. Comedic gold.
Earl, that’s exactly the issue. Can’t think of any free agent who would want to come here. And I agree, keeping current coaching staff and GM is rewarding incompetence
The fourth string QB proved he could hit a target if it was only big enough. Going forward, Bailey's our guy and we just find 5 450 lb guys to man the wide receiver room.
Highest payroll in the league = 3 win 😂 doesnt matter who you draft, just going to ruin another young mans career. If Myles has any brain cells left, he'd pack his bags tonight and get the hell out of that dumpster fire.
@GRASSNBASS couldn't agree more. And it wasn't just Baker that aided me leaving a team i supported for my 33 of my 36 years on this planet. What put me over the edge was who they replaced him with, and that contract, the ultimate level of stupidity. Browns will never be successful with that owner.
@ Columbus Crew is owned by Haslam they won a championship so he’s not the worst owner. Fact is Haslam has wrong people running organization. We have to fire Ivy League 3 or nothing will change
I remember g getting mad at articles being wrote about the browns not gonna be a good team maybe g should open his mind to professionals who said this team would win 5 games lol
Unpopular opinion--We absolutely need to trade back and assemble as many picks as possible. If Myles wants to go, give him what he wants and get as much compensation as possible. With all of that being said, I dont see us even having a CHANCE to compete until the 2027-28 season.
so HAPPY this crap season is over......IDC how Ivy league you are and how many useless coach of the year's you have......this entire regime needs FIRED!!!!!
GLAD THIS SEASON IS OVAA AND TO BE ONIST REALLY NOT THAT EXCITED FOR NEXT YEAR.. ALL THAT SAID I LOVED LISTENING TO AND WATCHING THE 2MIN WARNING SHOW!!! SALUTE FELLAS!! 🫡🥂
They have to clean house , start a rebuild , trade for picks this year . Suck again next year and do it again , we need to stock pile talent and can't miss on administration and coaching again!!!!
Schwartz deserves a ton of credit for having that defense play hard knowing damn well the offense will piss down its leg. That said everyone should be fired, or least KS and they can interview Vrabel and let him keep who he wants if he wants the job. There is no way you can run it back. They have a short leash so what's the point. KS had DW and was 1-6 with the easy part of the schedule. They need a qb and are in position. No way would I let KS near a rookie or put together a new staff. Chances are he gets canned and now you gotta hire someone to coach the qb they didnt pick, or start the process of a rebuild. Its why I think they need to go in a new direction and they can pick their qb. DW stays away, and then gets cut. KS been here 5 years, and not once have they been in contention to win the division. Next year doesnt look like it will be better under his leadership. Its time for a new voice. Earl has a good point with the analytics part because all that trading down and punting picks for the past decade has got them no where. Then they got desperate and traded the farm for a qb without a plan if it went south. They had to trade down to get lesser talent. But thing is they trust analytics so much they ignored league trends and that caused huge holes on the roster that they had to overspend on position groups because the bodies they were drafting werent even NFL guys. All that mid round DTs and LBs. Passing on rbs, when its clear the league is moving to 2 high safety. Its not a forward thinking regime. They just copy what everyone else is doing, but are behind the curve. It took them 3 years to decide to run rpo scheme for watson without the personnel for it. These guys are morons and shouldn't be here after Monday.
Sign Cousins… Trade down for a 1st this year, 1st next year and another 2nd or 3rd. Draft Jeanty, a T, or an Edge. (Or Hunter if he falls) (DO NOT DRAFT SANDERS) Draft Will Howard day 3 (maybe 2 if needed) and let him sit behind cousins. (Or Dart or Ewers if they feel good about him) Draft or sign a #2 WR and a RB. Get another Edge rusher.
Yea, his biceps and triceps will be on FULL display as he runs past the running back who is on the way for a twelve yard gain as Miles is in pursuit of another sack as he chases a quarterback who has already handed off two or three seconds earlier .......
Why does anyone think we have the right to talk superbowl. There are current 2 Qbs and about 4 coaches that won a superbowl. We always suck. I'll take a playoff QB, coach and team. Yall love Tomlin and he been trash since Ben. Stop thinking we need to find a super bowl winner. Bad job out of you UCCS
If the Browns draft Travis Hunter, then he'll be a combination of Greg Newsome and Elijah Moore. He'll be a mediocre slot CB, and every now and again Kevin Stefanski will bring him in on offense to run a reverse that gets stuffed for a 6 yard loss. That's EXACTLY what the Travis Hunter experience will be and y'all know it. Get me a guy who actually has a position. Hard pass on Travis Hunter.
Andrew Luck's career: 2000/3290, 60.8%, 23,671 yds, 171 TDs, 83 TDs, 14 Rush TDs Baker Mayfield career: 2136/3363, 63.5%, 24,611 yds, 169 TDs, 89 INT, 10 Rush TDs Tampa Bay got an Andrew Luck without the quitter mentality and without losing draft capital.
Hey GBush do you agree that zappe and thompson are horrible, the browns have to acquire a veteran QB1 that can hold it down for a couple years, keep jamison as their QB2, draft a rookie for QB3 and pay DW4 to stay home like the texans did his last year in houston until they can cut him in June 2026 when they should draft their future franchise QB1 … use 2025 draft and free agency to reload and rebuild?
horrible year, facing a rebuild and on the hook for a huge amount of money for 2 years and a good chunk in a 3rd year for a qb that is washed. the browns are probably in the worst shape for the future as any of the 32 teams. browns are a joke.
Stefanski gets a break by the fans and media in Cleveland. Is it a coincidence that every qb that plays for him throws a lot of interceptions? His offensive concepts are old and predictable. Every throw has to be precise and there is no room for a easy throw.
Sounds like andrew berry is terrible at bringing in qbs, deshaun was a complete failure, dtr might be just as bad, pj walker was not a nfl qb, jameis I like but threw as many picks as tds. Had they stuck with baker or flacco this team would be great.
@@anthonypa8045 yeah Tomlin goes to playoffs with Rudolph and other scrub QBs, yet fans like you want to give Kevin an excuse for a three win season.A typical Browns fan.
The Browns are gonna suck for a couple more years. KS and AB should be gone by that time. The owner will bring in more crap coaching and gm talent and the cycle will start over. Meanwhile the Browns organization as a destination will be viewed with laughter, scorn, derision and ridicule.
Keep say'n it - the Browns O line is the main reason for all the offense probs - if they can't block, then no pocket - no pocket no time for qb to set - no set bc of he's run'n for his life almost every play - receivers running ineffective long routes - even Tom Brady at his peak couldn't do anything with this O.L. - he'd be scrambling around with turf in his mouth look'n thru his earhole just like everyone else that qb'd for cle - and RB's can't do anything w 2+ def hang'n off them before they break the line - Stefanski is clueless & doesn't realize this - fire all the coaches - let this team play at the current Hun. stadium - don't deserve a multiB. $$$ stadium half payed by taxpayers -
I knew this team was going to be cheeks in the off season because they ran it back and made no upgrades to any of the rooms except Jerry Jeudy who was a question mark. Then they wouldnt hold public training camps and we heard that they were going to pass a lot (lead the league btw) and how trash the offense looked from beat reporters. Then the head ball coach who ppl want back, didnt even give the starters reps in preseason with this brand new offense. And ppl have the audacity to think we should run it back again? Miss me with that. They won 3 games with the DPOY, with this staff that could have two Myles Garretts and only win 4-5 games. Its a waste of time watching this team without a qb. Unless they shoot their shot they will never compete. And news flash Arch wont be there next year, and why do we think hes #1 worthy? He played like 2 games and has a Manning name. Remember "suck for sam" they didnt even draft that kid and they went 1-31 to get that position.
Don’t underestimate Vince Lombardi, those Packers Teams in the 60s were not more talented than every other team, they were highly motivated because the coach held them accountable for their play on the field. The Browns are not being motivated and they are not held accountable for their performance on the field.
Sorry but mid round qb is a waste of time and honestly a waste of a draft pick. Only two 2 fqbs have been selected in round 2 or lower since 2017. (hurts and purdy) they days of finding a viable option are gone because its a qb driven league, so many go quick. Ppl mocked the Broncos for drafting Nix at 12 and said he was a 3rd rounder at best. Look how that turned out. I dont trust any of these qb opinions or any really on any prospect. Ppl love hot takes, but you can pull up many just from the last class. Jayden Daniels will get a coach fired, Brock Bowers isnt a good pick, etc.
You think we should trade for Malik willis from the Packers. He looked crazy good replacing Love when he was hurt. I believe he can be really good. He looked sharp and utilized his running ability. He kept his head down field to throw then run. Would that be something to do and build our offense and defense in draft.
Just the FACT that Kevin Stefanski was awarded COTY not once, not ONLY ONCE, but twice, in five years, shows you what a joke these awards are. Dude is like a clueless deer in the headlights on a country road at two AM with a laminated play calling sheet in front of his snout (up until a few weeks ago, admittedly) but is STILL, STILL, STILL, equally as clueless. I have given up on this team, but in closing, I will say, I DID get a kick out of the - of course - defensive backfield celebrating the dropped passes, overthrown (although with Lamar, there weren't many) passes and the occasional break ups they did manage from the Ravens, with the obligatory patty cake antics, country line dancing and hand on hips, arm in the air "Saturday Night Fever" moves, all while they were one, two, or even three scores down on their way to their fourteenth LOSS of the year. You can't even make this EMBARRASSMENT or ISH up. Comedic gold.
Earl, that’s exactly the issue. Can’t think of any free agent who would want to come here. And I agree, keeping current coaching staff and GM is rewarding incompetence
Exactly why if they keep Stefanski and AB, I’m out.
They didnt have a QB. But honestly they need john dorsey back. Pay him what he wants.
Kirk would but he doesn't like being a bridge QB
If people actually voted for Haslam as the best owner and also told you to talk more Browns, your audience has the IQ of a turnip
To be fair, coming off a 11-5 season when you had 4 QBs and a bunch of other injuries you can see why the hype was there.
@onlyonezay419 after the complete embarrassment that playoff game was, I would've disagreed with that. Made a rookie look like Tom Brady 🤣
If Haslam could get away with it, he would move the team to Tennessee or somewhere down south.
@@URRidikalus so what? You still made the playoffs and seen some success especially for it being the Browns
@onlyonezay419 I despise cleveland ever since the Watson trade (yes I knew extactly what would happen). So yes I saw and enjoyed the Texans success.
The fourth string QB proved he could hit a target if it was only big enough. Going forward, Bailey's our guy and we just find 5 450 lb guys to man the wide receiver room.
We need a tough hard-nosed offensive coordinator
My browns left a long time ago. And never came back. And never will.
Highest payroll in the league = 3 win 😂 doesnt matter who you draft, just going to ruin another young mans career. If Myles has any brain cells left, he'd pack his bags tonight and get the hell out of that dumpster fire.
Myles sealed his fate with his comments on NO rebuild. Stefanski AB Myles are here to stay bub
@GRASSNBASS dont make no difference to me, I come here for easy laughs. I went to Tampa with Baker.
@@URRidikalus It’s always been a GM HC problem in CLE! Kevin and AB NEVER wanted baker bc they didn’t DRAFT him. Kevin threw Baker under the BUS
@GRASSNBASS couldn't agree more. And it wasn't just Baker that aided me leaving a team i supported for my 33 of my 36 years on this planet. What put me over the edge was who they replaced him with, and that contract, the ultimate level of stupidity. Browns will never be successful with that owner.
@ Columbus Crew is owned by Haslam they won a championship so he’s not the worst owner. Fact is Haslam has wrong people running organization. We have to fire Ivy League 3 or nothing will change
I remember g getting mad at articles being wrote about the browns not gonna be a good team maybe g should open his mind to professionals who said this team would win 5 games lol
Gbush was also still defending deshaun after he started off 1-6 with thevworst qBr in the nfl 😂. they call him "big clown" for a reason
Unpopular opinion--We absolutely need to trade back and assemble as many picks as possible. If Myles wants to go, give him what he wants and get as much compensation as possible. With all of that being said, I dont see us even having a CHANCE to compete until the 2027-28 season.
so HAPPY this crap season is over......IDC how Ivy league you are and how many useless coach of the year's you have......this entire regime needs FIRED!!!!!
Zappe leads the browns in td passes last 4 weeks. Looks better than deshaun, not really saying much
lol. You can't say a word without putting Deshaun in your mouth. You're possessed.
How serious was Abdul Carter's bowl game injury
" Super Brown's, Super Bowl " ~
GLAD THIS SEASON IS OVAA AND TO BE ONIST REALLY NOT THAT EXCITED FOR NEXT YEAR.. ALL THAT SAID I LOVED LISTENING TO AND WATCHING THE 2MIN WARNING SHOW!!! SALUTE FELLAS!! 🫡🥂
They have to clean house , start a rebuild , trade for picks this year . Suck again next year and do it again , we need to stock pile talent and can't miss on administration and coaching again!!!!
All Browns had to do was sit Watson when his Father passed away a week before the Opener and start Jameis while Cooper was still on the team.
They should have recognized that jameis was better than deshaun in camp.
Schwartz deserves a ton of credit for having that defense play hard knowing damn well the offense will piss down its leg. That said everyone should be fired, or least KS and they can interview Vrabel and let him keep who he wants if he wants the job. There is no way you can run it back. They have a short leash so what's the point. KS had DW and was 1-6 with the easy part of the schedule. They need a qb and are in position. No way would I let KS near a rookie or put together a new staff. Chances are he gets canned and now you gotta hire someone to coach the qb they didnt pick, or start the process of a rebuild. Its why I think they need to go in a new direction and they can pick their qb. DW stays away, and then gets cut. KS been here 5 years, and not once have they been in contention to win the division. Next year doesnt look like it will be better under his leadership. Its time for a new voice.
Earl has a good point with the analytics part because all that trading down and punting picks for the past decade has got them no where. Then they got desperate and traded the farm for a qb without a plan if it went south. They had to trade down to get lesser talent. But thing is they trust analytics so much they ignored league trends and that caused huge holes on the roster that they had to overspend on position groups because the bodies they were drafting werent even NFL guys. All that mid round DTs and LBs. Passing on rbs, when its clear the league is moving to 2 high safety. Its not a forward thinking regime. They just copy what everyone else is doing, but are behind the curve. It took them 3 years to decide to run rpo scheme for watson without the personnel for it. These guys are morons and shouldn't be here after Monday.
Wow, what a sorry performance.
Haslams are the common denominator here. Hes trash and has done nothing with the browns!
Sign Cousins…
Trade down for a 1st this year, 1st next year and another 2nd or 3rd.
Draft Jeanty, a T, or an Edge. (Or Hunter if he falls) (DO NOT DRAFT SANDERS)
Draft Will Howard day 3 (maybe 2 if needed) and let him sit behind cousins. (Or Dart or Ewers if they feel good about him)
Draft or sign a #2 WR and a RB.
Get another Edge rusher.
They hate Deion Sanders so much, they hate everyone he coaches. Funny thing is people with that type of hate arent good talent evaluators.
😂😂 Thank goodness it's over , , everyone in charge needs to go !!!!
Is Garret on this team next year.
hell to the nah nah nah!!!!
Yea, his biceps and triceps will be on FULL display as he runs past the running back who is on the way for a twelve yard gain as Miles is in pursuit of another sack as he chases a quarterback who has already handed off two or three seconds earlier .......
I hope Garrett leaves 😊
Yes, you dont trade HOF edge in their prime. If they did then who tf watching this team? I aint.
@@dyates6380 🤣😂
Swap 1st Rd picks with someone and also get their 1st for next season.
Why does anyone think we have the right to talk superbowl. There are current 2 Qbs and about 4 coaches that won a superbowl. We always suck. I'll take a playoff QB, coach and team. Yall love Tomlin and he been trash since Ben. Stop thinking we need to find a super bowl winner. Bad job out of you UCCS
They cant even with the division. Idk why ppl talk SB.
Top three pick, but will they screw it up? Perhaps they should trade down.
Garret is gonna wind up in baltimore
He should go to Buffalo and follow in the footsteps of Bruce Smith.
He’s staying bc Stefanski and AB are staying too
@@GRASSNBASS That's stupid.
Never did a high pick feel more ho hum
I would not miss this team if I was dumb enough to care😊
Fire Andrew Berry
If the Browns draft Travis Hunter, then he'll be a combination of Greg Newsome and Elijah Moore. He'll be a mediocre slot CB, and every now and again Kevin Stefanski will bring him in on offense to run a reverse that gets stuffed for a 6 yard loss. That's EXACTLY what the Travis Hunter experience will be and y'all know it. Get me a guy who actually has a position. Hard pass on Travis Hunter.
i tired of hearing getting rid of coaches and gm so who do you guys want?
Andrew Luck's career: 2000/3290, 60.8%, 23,671 yds, 171 TDs, 83 TDs, 14 Rush TDs
Baker Mayfield career: 2136/3363, 63.5%, 24,611 yds, 169 TDs, 89 INT, 10 Rush TDs
Tampa Bay got an Andrew Luck without the quitter mentality and without losing draft capital.
Put up Jameis' nbrs
Add 2 more tds and another division championship for baker too! Andrew berry should be fired for only getting a 5th for baker.
Omg EVERY episode G Bush has to somehow shoe horn in Wives, Relationships, Dating when hes a Passport Bro 21:29 22:40
Some stupid beat reporter does not determine what quarterback the Browns pick.
Yes G. Let him make the pick. And if I’m him and they don’t let me, I resign.
Deshaun Watson never bought into Stefanski offense
Deshaun watson can't even read a defense or identify where a blitz is coming from. Worst qb in the nfl.
@ browns felt he could they gave him 230 million dollars lol
@@walleye1901 yup and how'd that turn out lol, everyone calls it the worst trade in nfl history.
McNuggets is in the house tonight.
Hey GBush do you agree that zappe and thompson are horrible, the browns have to acquire a veteran QB1 that can hold it down for a couple years, keep jamison as their QB2, draft a rookie for QB3 and pay DW4 to stay home like the texans did his last year in houston until they can cut him in June 2026 when they should draft their future franchise QB1 … use 2025 draft and free agency to reload and rebuild?
horrible year, facing a rebuild and on the hook for a huge amount of money for 2 years and a good chunk in a 3rd year for a qb that is washed. the browns are probably in the worst shape for the future as any of the 32 teams. browns are a joke.
Blaming the black QB
@@DonnieB716No. Blaming the pos owner for giving him all that guaranteed money destroying his team's salary cap.
Stefanski gets a break by the fans and media in Cleveland. Is it a coincidence that every qb that plays for him throws a lot of interceptions? His offensive concepts are old and predictable. Every throw has to be precise and there is no room for a easy throw.
It’s NEVER Kevin’s fault
Sounds like andrew berry is terrible at bringing in qbs, deshaun was a complete failure, dtr might be just as bad, pj walker was not a nfl qb, jameis I like but threw as many picks as tds. Had they stuck with baker or flacco this team would be great.
@@anthonypa8045 yeah Tomlin goes to playoffs with Rudolph and other scrub QBs, yet fans like you want to give Kevin an excuse for a three win season.A typical Browns fan.
Well, there’s always the Cavs🏀
Where's the hate for zappe like it was for dtr?
Zappe played much better, they keep stats for a reason. Zappe leads the browns in passing tds over the last 4 weeks.
Adam the Bull said he knew the Browns would get beat badly, and they did.
It doesn’t take a genius to see that, they were sitting 6 starters and they had nothing to play for.
Wow, what a mind blowing prediction from him 😂
Zappe played decent, all things considered.
Huh????😂
nah man....he sucks too
@@stevendcompton Jeudy dropped a big pass. Not much of a running game. 1 week practicing with the team. Played better than DTR would have.
Really?
He threw a pick 6 and barely completed 50% of his throws. He threw an interception to a nose tackle. He played like crap!
Bring back Jameis and draft at least one of the Colorado WRs. Get a good WR via Free Agency and upgrade OL, CB, and S.
Kevin doesn’t like Jameis
Abdul Carter is a player who ends up in Baltimore or Pittsburgh and wrecks the Browns QB lives for 10yrs...dont be stupid
The Browns are gonna suck for a couple more years.
KS and AB should be gone by that time. The owner will bring in more crap coaching and gm
talent and the cycle will start over. Meanwhile the Browns organization as a destination
will be viewed with laughter, scorn, derision and ridicule.
Keep say'n it - the Browns O line is the main reason for all the offense probs - if they can't block, then no pocket - no pocket no time for qb to set - no set bc of he's run'n for his life almost every play - receivers running ineffective long routes - even Tom Brady at his peak couldn't do anything with this O.L. - he'd be scrambling around with turf in his mouth look'n thru his earhole just like everyone else that qb'd for cle - and RB's can't do anything w 2+ def hang'n off them before they break the line - Stefanski is clueless & doesn't realize this - fire all the coaches - let this team play at the current Hun. stadium - don't deserve a multiB. $$$ stadium half payed by taxpayers -
I knew this team was going to be cheeks in the off season because they ran it back and made no upgrades to any of the rooms except Jerry Jeudy who was a question mark. Then they wouldnt hold public training camps and we heard that they were going to pass a lot (lead the league btw) and how trash the offense looked from beat reporters. Then the head ball coach who ppl want back, didnt even give the starters reps in preseason with this brand new offense. And ppl have the audacity to think we should run it back again? Miss me with that. They won 3 games with the DPOY, with this staff that could have two Myles Garretts and only win 4-5 games. Its a waste of time watching this team without a qb. Unless they shoot their shot they will never compete. And news flash Arch wont be there next year, and why do we think hes #1 worthy? He played like 2 games and has a Manning name. Remember "suck for sam" they didnt even draft that kid and they went 1-31 to get that position.
Arch Manning will be a superstar NFL QB
@@ShadowSelf216lol
Baltimore winning with draft picks? You are the guy that liked trading draft picks for Watson. Your story changes every week.
who do you want for headcoach if you want to get rid of the what is it the 30th coach or something?
Travis is going to be a role player at best IMO.
Terrible performance I feel like if this is the right g.m.and head coach we'll be saying there's always next year; next year!!!!😢😅
Disappointed?
Earl keeps talking about the fans coming back, how many checks you cash talking about em? I’ll wait. And don’t give me the it’s my job garbage.
We do not want Cousins here he is immobile and washed
Way better than deshaun though
I will take 8 wins consistently until the culture changes
OVA at last. Trash season and team.
Justin Fields. Then draft Nussmeier, Manning, or Allar next year. I'm sure there are others as well. This draft... fill the trenches.
Vrabel? Lombardi couldn't win with this roster.
Don’t underestimate Vince Lombardi, those Packers Teams in the 60s were not more talented than every other team, they were highly motivated because the coach held them accountable for their play on the field. The Browns are not being motivated and they are not held accountable for their performance on the field.
@@StevenC32 agreed.
Sorry but mid round qb is a waste of time and honestly a waste of a draft pick. Only two 2 fqbs have been selected in round 2 or lower since 2017. (hurts and purdy) they days of finding a viable option are gone because its a qb driven league, so many go quick. Ppl mocked the Broncos for drafting Nix at 12 and said he was a 3rd rounder at best. Look how that turned out. I dont trust any of these qb opinions or any really on any prospect. Ppl love hot takes, but you can pull up many just from the last class. Jayden Daniels will get a coach fired, Brock Bowers isnt a good pick, etc.
I love this show but Earl wanting to talk more about the cavs is gross. Give me the browns.
Why?
Kyle McCord could be a good Stefanski QB
Will Howard
McCord QUIT on OHIO STATE yet you believe he’d be a good player on the BROWNS? 🤔
@OliGrant-sw8by Like Cam Ward quitting on his team at half-time.
@LUVDOGS1954 rather have ward than McCord anyday he probably won't even get drafted he sucks
Kyle McCord sucks!
You think we should trade for Malik willis from the Packers. He looked crazy good replacing Love when he was hurt. I believe he can be really good. He looked sharp and utilized his running ability. He kept his head down field to throw then run. Would that be something to do and build our offense and defense in draft.