I knew it was coming but when Sam Wilson was revealed in his Captain America suit in the finalé of Falcon and the Winter Soldier, my jaw dropped and I couldn't stop smiling. Seeing Sam as Captain America in the MCU in that last episode really showed how much he deserved that role. I can't wait to see more of Sam Wilson Captain America in the MCU, it's such a great path to go down.
I was SO looking forward to seeing Sam Wilson being Cap, but honestly didn't like the suit. Not sure what I was expecting, but was expecting something different.
I give huge kudos to Marvel Studios for doing it in a way that doesn't feel at all like tokenism. They provided a good reason for Steve not being CA, passing on the mantel, and even showing Sam having issues with it. They humanized it and are making thr changeover very digestable and it makes sense.
I love Sam as Captain America, but they didn’t do it very well. They made it too much about him being black and not about being captain America in my opinion. I mean I’ve never heard anyone call him black falcon before
@@brockmodic3713 just because you haven't heard anyone say it doesnt mean it doesn't happen. I cant tell you how many times my friends and cousins called him black falcon it always made me chuckle but they ain't wrong.
@YouWouldn'tGetIt that kinda annoyed me tbh. I get it, he's Captain America officially. That's sick but can the writers not give nothing to Bucky at least. Bucky felt useless and nerfed the whole time and then John finally wants to do something that felt like an organic Captain America thing to do, only for it to be stolen by Sam. I don't know it could have been done better imo
@YouWouldn'tGetIt yeah. I'd rather Bucky be left out of this tbh. I mean it feels like he isn't going to be in another film really, unless it's a Sam wilson captain America film then I'm worried as I wouldn't want him to be useless side character with a funny line or two. I'd rather he be white wolf and be in the next bp film then that
That scene in the end, when the credits are about to roll, and the name of series changes to "Captain America and the Winter soldier"... just a small detail, but so damn good. Mackie and Stan were great on this show.
Absolutely loved both of those. Ironheart and Infamous Iron Man were great as well but my favorites were Ms. Marvel and Unbeatable Gwenpool. Gwenpool's 12 issue series in particular is the best use of meta elements I've ever seen in comics. I think overall people were so focused on the bad parts they missed a lot of good
The music in the falcon and the winter soldier when falcon is training is was flawless. The series with that progression was the best idea to transformed a boring character to a new and interesting one.
I think a cool way to push characters is just have them "replace" the character but not take their mantle. Like an event happens and a lot of characters either die, vanish, or lose their powers and the remaining heroes after defeating them realize that they are going to have to step up. The world doesn't need a different person to become Thor or Hulk or Iron Man or even Captain America. Have different characters take up that role. Introduce new characters capable of doing so. Yeah things will go back to the status quo sooner than later but having these characters who have been background characters actually have their stories expanded upon would make them far more popular for years to come.
I'm no comic Falcon fan but his stories as Captain America were good, and yes,Nick Spencer's run was great. Please,I'm interested,would you cover that run?
Honestly the way the mcu did this nobody can deny sam is a badasss cap dude that scene where he boxed himself in with the wings and shield was legit bro im sayin Cap is back!!!
Agreed, I dont get why we can't have both minority chars with their own issues AND minority characters who take over mantles. Folks always reduce it to one or the other
@@potatotomato3919 agreeded, I also liked X23 as Wolverine for similar reasons, as Logans clone/daughter and having an established relationship with him it felt earned. Sometimes you can get away with a complete new character, Kamala Khan didn't have any relationship with Carol Danvers when she became Ms Marvel but she was well written and Carol had already moved on to being Captain Marvel and left identity vacant so wasn't being pushed aside.
@Saggy Nips It would probably be the best way to bring it into the MCU if they bestow the mantle officially to Bucky. He can progress his story further past his winter soldier identity. In the MCU Wakanda has helped him greatly and he clearly has respect for them. They never mentioned White wolf in the MCU until this series (to my knowledge) so could make a lot of sense. (call him the winter wolf?) They can always bring in some backstory referencing the Original Hunter white wolf and his role. This would give Buckys Journey some parallels to Sam Wilson's progression into captain America. It would also give Bucky a role in helping the next Black Panther (Shuri maybe?) in becoming the leader they need to be.
I will have to admit, going into the show I was having a hard time picturing Sam as Cap in a full length movie. After that finally I'm truly a believer. I need a Sam Wilson movie. He feels perfect for the role. It doesn't feel like a token black man that's just put in the role to be more "inclusive". It feels natural. It was built up so perfectly over the years.
I dig Sam as Captain America. Granted, I think there's room for both Steve and Sam as CA, although while it made sense in the comic for that to happen...the show handled it a lot better overall. Although the Tokenism complex does pop up quite a bit, regarding Sam it made sense as he is Steve's best friend and fought alongside him for so long. So very much an exception to the rule due to the history of the character. On a side note, Miles Morales is an exception to the rule, when he was in Ultimate Marvel anyway and on the PS4/5 games. So I'm excited to see what becomes of Sam Wilson in the MCU.
Such a good point, the story matters with how they get to things. A lot of comic archs aren't very well written stories. The MCU did this in a way that felt natural and interesting. I read the comics, they just weren't that good. A lot of people forget the captain America comics have huge swings in story quality and aren't known for consistency in story quality. Especially in the last 10 or 15 years comics quality in both art and story has gone way waaaaay down. The MCU does a great job telling a long term story and giving set up without sacrificing the story they are telling in that moment. Captain America comics for the entire duration of the character have been hit or miss. Secret empire was quite possibly the worst comic series ever in my opinion.
Sam is great and an obvious exception, but Miles is the definition of tokenism as evidenced by the new Spiderverse movie he was never even supposed to exist.
@YouWouldn'tGetIt I'll break it down to you as best as I can. The show was literally called The Falcon and the Winter Soldier so for Anthony to not get top billing and his white counterpart getting pushed before him is social commentary on how black people generally speaking don't get credit for the work that they put in. it was even major plot point in the story that a black man , isaiah bradly, was literally written out of history. once Sam stepped into with the mantle it's now suggesting that movement forward people can get the credit that they deserve when they put the work. And you're right A lot of people don't pay attention to the credits oh, it had to be pointed out to me kinda how in real life marginalized people dont get the full acknowledgement or recognition for the work they put it. So that subtle switch in the arrangement is actually pretty deep.
@YouWouldn'tGetIt in your own backwards roundabout facetious way you kind of pointed out the issue whether you realize it or not, so kudos. You kind of went off the rails at the end there with that white man better 5 to 1 ratio and I never said or implied that Anthony Mackie was better than Sebastian Stan so I don't really know where you got that from but I've already explained the best way that I can so you can either attempt to a digest it or just go on about your day
There's always backlash when a minority takes up the role of an existing character. Yet the name of the character is just a title, and titles are won, loss, passed on. Change is different, and it can be a good thing to tell stories from a different perspective.
@@paydenjackson7156 Steve to Sam, Tony to Riri, Peter to Miles, Richard Ryder to Sam Alexander, Odinson to Jane. Just using these as examples, but whenever the status quo is changed to a more diverse team there's a group that outcry over the change even if it's temporary.
I think there will always be a backlash when replacing an existing character because there are fans of that character in the first place. you can't just expect them to praise every change they make. I never really understood the need to take up another popular hero's name to be cool. Cause it's so corny. If they cant make a character interesting using their own name, then they should find a way to make it awesome or they could just stop and focus on those who are actually interesting. And it's really weird that people would rather have "hand me downs" titles instead of making new proper stories and interestibg character arcs. I read manga, majority of them are japanese and that never bothered anyone. Because they're well written and are very interesting characters. So maybe it's just a problem of being creative in story telling.
4. Those of us who were long-time FALCON-fans, weren’t happy to see him abandon that identity, because he was important as one of the first black mainstream superheroes...
I'm black. For me personally, whenever comic creators go the "We are going to give a black guy the mantle of [insert superhero] so you can see yourself in that character." I never once looked at a Black Captain America or a Black Batman or turning a traditional white superhero into a black guy and said "Wow, I see myself in that character." I see myself as a person first, yes, my skin color is black. Some people do. It's important to them. To each there own I suppose. I am not going to look at Sam at Captain America and say that's my boy. I will concede that after watching Falcon and Winter Solider finale, Anthony Mackey sold me on being Captain America. Not because of the color of his skin. The actor and the story sold me that he is Captain America. That is the main thing us comic readers want. A good story. I can't vouch for Sam as Captain America in the comics was a good story or not. Come on, we know that some writers these days take the lazy route of "lets switch the race, gender, etc, here is your different version of a traditional white superhero;" that is where the tokenism comes from. Where we as comic readers feel the lets give someone else a mantel is fundamentally dishonest. All New All Different Marvel was the poster child of that. I will admit I would prefer a black character be built up as there own unique character, if you can tell a compelling story that can win me over. I can be won over. The Next Batman, I like that story. Do I still prefer Bruce Wayne, sure, The Next Batman told an adequate story. No pitchforks over here.
Bro! Love the way you put the info out for us. Thanks for the work, I love Sam Wilson as a character and If I had to see the mantle passed to anyone, I definitely preferred it to be Sam! I gotta catch your coverage of the Coates Cap!
I'm sure most of the people upset about Sam Wilson Captain America as well as Jane Foster Thor and other characters being changed were hate motivated. Because if they were true comic book fans they would have knew that Marvel comics routinely have superheroes get replaced all the time. Sometimes by people who are different gender or race and sometimes by someone of same gender and race. I think that it is cool to see 500 versions of the same characters. I hope they do more of that in MCU in the main universe or in multiverse or in the what if series.
I think you have several motivations. Some people just don't like change and would complain whoever it was. Some are upset if a white guy is replaced by anything different screaming about SJWs and forced agendas. However I think some take each one individually, I liked Sam as Cap, X23 as Wolverine and Jane as Thor as they were all strongly associated with the character they were replacing and were characters in their own right. Someone like Riri though comes from left field and has nothing to do with Tony while the comic is basically telling you how wonderful she is. Just wasn't well done but if you criticised someone would start claiming you were racist and sexist. Idiots on both sides.
With Sam being Captain America in the comics to me it made perfect sense being Captain America side and ally of Steve Rogers and with Bucky already dawning the shield in the past it made sense with Sam. Was it divisive? Oh yes for sure but it was more akin because they did at the cost of Steve Rogers turning him into a hydra agent which was lazy and stupid from marvel comics, if they let them be an old nan without the serum the change would’ve probably been more accepting. I personally like Spencer’s run of Captain America as Hydra as a what if concept like “What if Captain America was evil and systematically take over the world. I see why people didn’t like it Spencer’s run but people that like the run (Rob) need to stop vilifying fans just because of different opinions and putting them in boxes otherwise you end up becoming the thing you hate. I still think Brubaker run is the all greatest Captain America run.
Not gonna lie, this was a difficult comic series. He was unpopular back when this storyline happened (in universe and comicbook community). Hopefully you've seen the finale, but the ending to Falcon...NO...Spolier alert Captain America and the Winter Sodlier was amazing. It was done so well and Isaiah Bradley got his recognition in the Disney+ series. Almost cried at this scene.
Does anyone else NOT want Steve Rogers Captain America to come out of retirement? MCU Sam Wilson Captain America earned the right to carry that shield just as much as Steve ever did. I think Black Captain America is a story desperately needed in today's world.
I was really hoping and still am hoping to see that speech from Cap at the end go viral. I wanna know how the whole world would react to that speech, like they do in the show. For better or worse.
U.S. Agent, Bucky, and Sam's suit were my favorite parts of this show! I like how the MCU put their spin on things. Power Broker is evil but it's Sharon Carter. And U.S. Agent exists and is a good hero rather than a competitor to a new Captain America. (U.S. Agent is so cool to me 😃)
Sam out of all the potential legacy cases, was the most legitimate successor imo. I think the ONLY problem is that his as Cap came during a time whenMarvel was replacing ALOT of their characters with minorities or women. Like Jane Thor, X-23 as wolverine, and a few others. Sam Wilson as cap actually is brilliant but Marvel was pushing to much agenda based stories that Sam was lumped in with them even though, he as Cap is actually a fantastic idea
I think one thing to note with Falcon is that by design he is a team character and not a solo character (just my opinion). He is like the flyer of the team and does what a flyer does but is not design to be the one on one guy on the front line. These type of support characters are great but usually will not hold a comic well as a solo character. Now of the story is about his personal life, maybe it can be great but as a superhero, he is a team guy and made to be in a team book. Xmen has a lot of characters like this.
I liked that they planted the seeds to the "Not my Captain America" part of the comics as soon as he put on the suit. I hope they go deep on a potential season 2
@@Gorypaladin346 I’m sure he knows but he means there are going to be people to dislike him in the suit and that might play a part in the movie and season 2 going forward
The only issue with the status quo basically not changing is that it becomes stale, and that there's no overall growth. There's no point to a passing of a torch if that torch is just gonna be returned. It makes the sacrifice pointless.
Hey rob, thought I’d might share a series idea that I find interesting. Can you do a series however long you want, to make a shared movie universe between marvel and dc. Combining characters and stories all in one, not like the amalgamation thing. However you want to do it, like having Deadpool go team up with with Batman for example. Have a good day, and keep up the good content.
@@blowc1612 This is only my 2nd time commenting this, I’m sorry I’m just giving ideas to a TH-camr whether he wants to do it or not idk. It’s interesting I’m still in your mind and you remember me, you still haven’t told me why it is dumb, and I’m still gonna comment it every video whether you like it or not. You dumbass
@@7brucewayne7 no, it’s such an idiotic idea, it’s glaring and easy to spot. Plus you’re so pathetic in life that you use a comic book name for your handle trying to act like your the character because you have no originality in real life. Simple, the whole world doesn’t revolve around you.
@@blowc1612 Wow, you are really a low life human. That fact that your mad about my pfp and name shows how immature you are. Idk what a bLoWc16 and how that is so original but do you man. Also how did this become about the world revolving around me tf. I simply have a idea of which you still haven’t told me why it’s a “idiotic idea” to see what Rob thinks of it. Stop acting like a tough guy online and keep your thoughts to yourself
Do you have an Armor Wars video?! This Powerbroker talk is bringing up a lot of stuff about Rhode and Hammer Tech and I’d love to see you make a video about it! Also thanks man, love your channel! Keep up the good work!!!
Amazing explanation! Btw i think its time for you to change that intro (the scene with only youtube logo). I kinda dont get it whats the point of that display 😅
"Ta Nehisi-Coats' Captain America, that one was really good too.... " statements like that make it hard for me to take anything Rob says about comics too seriously.
now, as a Scandinavian my mind went to to loads of: "what?"" places during Episode 5-6... For sure America has loads of history that i probably will never fully grasp.. That being said, Seeing Sam turning into Captain America was AWESOME!! But all that talk about "Black man this, Black man that" "Black people this, Black people that" didn't hit home with me... That might just be due to me being from where i am, and us never having had such a racial "divide/struggle".. I don't know.. But i am whole heartedly happy to see Sam take up the mantle as Captain! Love from Norway!
It's so strange to me that people are so invested in fictional characters. I've been reading comics since I was a child and I appreciate them for the stories that they tell. If something changes who cares its a story 🤣😂. The power of comics is in the narrative, sell me on the story. What does it say about you that you're threatened by the change in a fictional character? People are so strange.
could we get a video on joaquin torres falcon? he's very likely gonna show up in the mcu at some point and it would be cool to see a video on his history!
The way Issiah bradley looked at Falcon/Captain America is like a proud father seeing his son succeed at what couldn't succeed. Really felt that
I was fucking crying 😭
It was really powerful. Respect.
Failed isn’t the right word but I understand what you mean.
He is Captain American
That's how you bridge a gap
I knew it was coming but when Sam Wilson was revealed in his Captain America suit in the finalé of Falcon and the Winter Soldier, my jaw dropped and I couldn't stop smiling. Seeing Sam as Captain America in the MCU in that last episode really showed how much he deserved that role. I can't wait to see more of Sam Wilson Captain America in the MCU, it's such a great path to go down.
I was SO looking forward to seeing Sam Wilson being Cap, but honestly didn't like the suit. Not sure what I was expecting, but was expecting something different.
@@jskweres2 the suit is very faithful to the comics. I thought it looked great
@@panamakira i liked the suit too it looks ethereal
Everybody has their own opinion. That's a good looking suit for Sam the set up.
The Isaiah Bradley Scene was phenomenal, also that ending music was great!
Facts 🔥🔥💯
it was so beautiful to see
Yess!!! also, IF u notice there is a spotlight shining on Elijah when they were hugging it out ... patriot's coming!
I wasn’t crying, I was weeping... there’s a difference 😢. They did a great job
FACTS ☯️ 1000%
Wakanda put the drip on the suit for sam! 🔥🔥🔥
Facts
they always bring the drip. I'm sure on the movie they will give Bucky his white wolf costume.
I give huge kudos to Marvel Studios for doing it in a way that doesn't feel at all like tokenism. They provided a good reason for Steve not being CA, passing on the mantel, and even showing Sam having issues with it. They humanized it and are making thr changeover very digestable and it makes sense.
I love Sam as Captain America, but they didn’t do it very well. They made it too much about him being black and not about being captain America in my opinion. I mean I’ve never heard anyone call him black falcon before
What i want to know is do we get a captain america 4 or is our boy Anthony relegated to a streaming service?
@@brockmodic3713 just because you haven't heard anyone say it doesnt mean it doesn't happen. I cant tell you how many times my friends and cousins called him black falcon it always made me chuckle but they ain't wrong.
Exactly nail on the head 🙏🏼🙌🏼
@@man_without_fear6518 I hope it happens.
The scene when John walker saves the van was amazing
Tried you mean
@@_M27_ the effort is still appreciated
Spoiler alert, although I saw it...
@YouWouldn'tGetIt that kinda annoyed me tbh. I get it, he's Captain America officially. That's sick but can the writers not give nothing to Bucky at least. Bucky felt useless and nerfed the whole time and then John finally wants to do something that felt like an organic Captain America thing to do, only for it to be stolen by Sam. I don't know it could have been done better imo
@YouWouldn'tGetIt yeah. I'd rather Bucky be left out of this tbh. I mean it feels like he isn't going to be in another film really, unless it's a Sam wilson captain America film then I'm worried as I wouldn't want him to be useless side character with a funny line or two. I'd rather he be white wolf and be in the next bp film then that
That scene in the end, when the credits are about to roll, and the name of series changes to "Captain America and the Winter soldier"... just a small detail, but so damn good. Mackie and Stan were great on this show.
Thank goodness he didn’t give up the ability to fly for sick flips. He hose both. Like a normal person.
The suit is BANG ON! Everyone knew who Powerbroker was
I thought it was gonna be Mephisto or John Krasinski...
@@slartybartfast4213 stfu
Honestly, I'm disappointed that it wasn't Mephisto for crying out loud
Mann Sam was lucky to be running that day around that pond 😂
That's a good point🤔
“On the left” haha
Multiple days
That’s a good point 😂
Moral of the story: Keep working out and one day you will become Captain America
Thank goodness for real fans who actually read the stories instead jumping to conclusions
arguably id say Sam as Cap and Laura as Wolverine were the best things from that era of Marvel
Absolutely loved both of those. Ironheart and Infamous Iron Man were great as well but my favorites were Ms. Marvel and Unbeatable Gwenpool. Gwenpool's 12 issue series in particular is the best use of meta elements I've ever seen in comics. I think overall people were so focused on the bad parts they missed a lot of good
Agreed
Spider-Man being a billionaire was better
Whoooooo so many marvel fans would look at you side ways lol
Yes, yes, yes!!! Please do a piece on the Ta-Nehisis Coates' Captain America. I would be ever in your debt!
Amazing channel btw. Huge Fan!
Sam Wilson's new suit is badass 😎 I like how the wings retract
It shows up good in the dark too
I also like that it's really an extention of him when he's fighting
That vibranium suit is dope
The music in the falcon and the winter soldier when falcon is training is was flawless. The series with that progression was the best idea to transformed a boring character to a new and interesting one.
I absolutely loved Secret Empire...that Sam Wilson as Captain American tie in series was amazing too!!!
Rob: Everything goes back to the status quo in comics.
Me: Still waiting on Peter Parker to get back with Mary Jane
Lol.Not gonna happen in 616 universe.
They are taking their sweet time! Spencer keeps teasing us with getting them married again 😭😭
@A wanted man Lmao
They literally just did in Spencer's run.
If you mean married that will take a while. Dating though you're pretty late to the party
The Falcon and Winter Soldier mini series is truly a comedy buddy cop series and it deserves a Rundown episode.
Agreed, but right after that we need a Rundown episode on the West Lake Avengers, for the sake of hilarity
its series of interracial friendships.
I know I'm alone but it's still my favorite series
I'm loving the background music in this and your last video rob
I think a cool way to push characters is just have them "replace" the character but not take their mantle. Like an event happens and a lot of characters either die, vanish, or lose their powers and the remaining heroes after defeating them realize that they are going to have to step up. The world doesn't need a different person to become Thor or Hulk or Iron Man or even Captain America. Have different characters take up that role. Introduce new characters capable of doing so. Yeah things will go back to the status quo sooner than later but having these characters who have been background characters actually have their stories expanded upon would make them far more popular for years to come.
I'm no comic Falcon fan but his stories as Captain America were good, and yes,Nick Spencer's run was great. Please,I'm interested,would you cover that run?
I feel the same way. I never liked Falcon until I read his All New Captain America series. Those 6 issues alone won me over
Honestly the way the mcu did this nobody can deny sam is a badasss cap dude that scene where he boxed himself in with the wings and shield was legit bro im sayin Cap is back!!!
That was some of my favorite marvel content since infinity war
I loved how comic accurate the suit is
Also I also loved his speech to the senator
My Captain America 100%
he is everybodys captain america... that is the point
lol
@@p00lboy He was when he was steve Roger's already.
Nah this doesn't feel like tokenism at all, since falcon is already a well loved character and is close with steve rogers from the beginning
Agreed, I dont get why we can't have both minority chars with their own issues AND minority characters who take over mantles. Folks always reduce it to one or the other
@@potatotomato3919 agreeded, I also liked X23 as Wolverine for similar reasons, as Logans clone/daughter and having an established relationship with him it felt earned. Sometimes you can get away with a complete new character, Kamala Khan didn't have any relationship with Carol Danvers when she became Ms Marvel but she was well written and Carol had already moved on to being Captain Marvel and left identity vacant so wasn't being pushed aside.
#BuckyForCaptainAmerica
*Buck was closer.*
I'm just chuckling that Werewolf Captain American actually got mentioned
Man this takes me back to 2014/15, the art and story was so good. About to go blow the dust off those issues.
Next season should end *"Captain America 🇺🇸 and the White Wolf 🐺"*
@Saggy Nips It would probably be the best way to bring it into the MCU if they bestow the mantle officially to Bucky. He can progress his story further past his winter soldier identity. In the MCU Wakanda has helped him greatly and he clearly has respect for them. They never mentioned White wolf in the MCU until this series (to my knowledge) so could make a lot of sense. (call him the winter wolf?) They can always bring in some backstory referencing the Original Hunter white wolf and his role. This would give Buckys Journey some parallels to Sam Wilson's progression into captain America. It would also give Bucky a role in helping the next Black Panther (Shuri maybe?) in becoming the leader they need to be.
I never noticed it.. But robs older music playlist style in videos is slowly leaking back and my ears thank him for it
I will have to admit, going into the show I was having a hard time picturing Sam as Cap in a full length movie. After that finally I'm truly a believer. I need a Sam Wilson movie. He feels perfect for the role. It doesn't feel like a token black man that's just put in the role to be more "inclusive". It feels natural. It was built up so perfectly over the years.
Marvel confirmed they are making captain America 4
Yeah same
I dig Sam as Captain America. Granted, I think there's room for both Steve and Sam as CA, although while it made sense in the comic for that to happen...the show handled it a lot better overall.
Although the Tokenism complex does pop up quite a bit, regarding Sam it made sense as he is Steve's best friend and fought alongside him for so long. So very much an exception to the rule due to the history of the character. On a side note, Miles Morales is an exception to the rule, when he was in Ultimate Marvel anyway and on the PS4/5 games.
So I'm excited to see what becomes of Sam Wilson in the MCU.
Such a good point, the story matters with how they get to things. A lot of comic archs aren't very well written stories. The MCU did this in a way that felt natural and interesting. I read the comics, they just weren't that good. A lot of people forget the captain America comics have huge swings in story quality and aren't known for consistency in story quality. Especially in the last 10 or 15 years comics quality in both art and story has gone way waaaaay down. The MCU does a great job telling a long term story and giving set up without sacrificing the story they are telling in that moment.
Captain America comics for the entire duration of the character have been hit or miss. Secret empire was quite possibly the worst comic series ever in my opinion.
Sam is great and an obvious exception, but Miles is the definition of tokenism as evidenced by the new Spiderverse movie he was never even supposed to exist.
love how the credits change to Anthony Mackie getting top billing when prior it was Sabastian Stan
I didn't even notice that
Means 0. Lebron James has been getting top billing for years and is still a huge turd.
@YouWouldn'tGetIt it kind of does matter. it's just more subtle social commentary
@YouWouldn'tGetIt I'll break it down to you as best as I can. The show was literally called The Falcon and the Winter Soldier so for Anthony to not get top billing and his white counterpart getting pushed before him is social commentary on how black people generally speaking don't get credit for the work that they put in. it was even major plot point in the story that a black man , isaiah bradly, was literally written out of history. once Sam stepped into with the mantle it's now suggesting that movement forward people can get the credit that they deserve when they put the work. And you're right A lot of people don't pay attention to the credits oh, it had to be pointed out to me kinda how in real life marginalized people dont get the full acknowledgement or recognition for the work they put it. So that subtle switch in the arrangement is actually pretty deep.
@YouWouldn'tGetIt in your own backwards roundabout facetious way you kind of pointed out the issue whether you realize it or not, so kudos. You kind of went off the rails at the end there with that white man better 5 to 1 ratio and I never said or implied that Anthony Mackie was better than Sebastian Stan so I don't really know where you got that from but I've already explained the best way that I can so you can either attempt to a digest it or just go on about your day
There's always backlash when a minority takes up the role of an existing character. Yet the name of the character is just a title, and titles are won, loss, passed on. Change is different, and it can be a good thing to tell stories from a different perspective.
Very true
Eh, I think its more of just a different person taking the role of an existing character, idk where your getting minority at tbh
@Cognitive Ape To be fair, Jane is not the first person to do that, there was also Eric Masterson in the 80s.
@@paydenjackson7156 Steve to Sam, Tony to Riri, Peter to Miles, Richard Ryder to Sam Alexander, Odinson to Jane. Just using these as examples, but whenever the status quo is changed to a more diverse team there's a group that outcry over the change even if it's temporary.
I think there will always be a backlash when replacing an existing character because there are fans of that character in the first place. you can't just expect them to praise every change they make. I never really understood the need to take up another popular hero's name to be cool. Cause it's so corny. If they cant make a character interesting using their own name, then they should find a way to make it awesome or they could just stop and focus on those who are actually interesting. And it's really weird that people would rather have "hand me downs" titles instead of making new proper stories and interestibg character arcs. I read manga, majority of them are japanese and that never bothered anyone. Because they're well written and are very interesting characters. So maybe it's just a problem of being creative in story telling.
This episode was SO AMAZING!!! I LOVE Superhero suit reveal scenes!
I love the Black Falcon references-see the Key and Peele Superhero Squad skit. Very meta.
Nice breakdown of the legacy argument. I was in that second group of detractors for a while.
You have a very charming laugh. I watch for the content, but generally enjoy the sound of your voice, and your excitement.
It would definitely be amazing for Captain America stories to be covered
4. Those of us who were long-time FALCON-fans, weren’t happy to see him abandon that identity, because he was important as one of the first black mainstream superheroes...
Shhhh he has a new mantel to fill now
@Budda Brotha What other characters did they do this with? Other than Cap and Spiderman
@@tyranis4433 spider man. Iron man. Just off the top of my head.
@@tyranis4433 iron man, spiderman, Captain America, superman to name a few
I'm black. For me personally, whenever comic creators go the "We are going to give a black guy the mantle of [insert superhero] so you can see yourself in that character." I never once looked at a Black Captain America or a Black Batman or turning a traditional white superhero into a black guy and said "Wow, I see myself in that character." I see myself as a person first, yes, my skin color is black. Some people do. It's important to them. To each there own I suppose. I am not going to look at Sam at Captain America and say that's my boy.
I will concede that after watching Falcon and Winter Solider finale, Anthony Mackey sold me on being Captain America. Not because of the color of his skin. The actor and the story sold me that he is Captain America. That is the main thing us comic readers want. A good story. I can't vouch for Sam as Captain America in the comics was a good story or not. Come on, we know that some writers these days take the lazy route of "lets switch the race, gender, etc, here is your different version of a traditional white superhero;" that is where the tokenism comes from. Where we as comic readers feel the lets give someone else a mantel is fundamentally dishonest. All New All Different Marvel was the poster child of that. I will admit I would prefer a black character be built up as there own unique character, if you can tell a compelling story that can win me over. I can be won over. The Next Batman, I like that story. Do I still prefer Bruce Wayne, sure, The Next Batman told an adequate story. No pitchforks over here.
Bro! Love the way you put the info out for us. Thanks for the work, I love Sam Wilson as a character and If I had to see the mantle passed to anyone, I definitely preferred it to be Sam! I gotta catch your coverage of the Coates Cap!
You should cover anything Coates writes. His work is fantastic.
I'm sure most of the people upset about Sam Wilson Captain America as well as Jane Foster Thor and other characters being changed were hate motivated. Because if they were true comic book fans they would have knew that Marvel comics routinely have superheroes get replaced all the time. Sometimes by people who are different gender or race and sometimes by someone of same gender and race. I think that it is cool to see 500 versions of the same characters. I hope they do more of that in MCU in the main universe or in multiverse or in the what if series.
I think you have several motivations. Some people just don't like change and would complain whoever it was. Some are upset if a white guy is replaced by anything different screaming about SJWs and forced agendas.
However I think some take each one individually, I liked Sam as Cap, X23 as Wolverine and Jane as Thor as they were all strongly associated with the character they were replacing and were characters in their own right. Someone like Riri though comes from left field and has nothing to do with Tony while the comic is basically telling you how wonderful she is. Just wasn't well done but if you criticised someone would start claiming you were racist and sexist. Idiots on both sides.
For the love of all things funny, please Rob grace us with another RunDown episode
I feel like in terms of the comic books, I think it’s would be cool to see some Sam Wilson and Daredevil stories.
With Sam being Captain America in the comics to me it made perfect sense being Captain America side and ally of Steve Rogers and with Bucky already dawning the shield in the past it made sense with Sam. Was it divisive? Oh yes for sure but it was more akin because they did at the cost of Steve Rogers turning him into a hydra agent which was lazy and stupid from marvel comics, if they let them be an old nan without the serum the change would’ve probably been more accepting.
I personally like Spencer’s run of Captain America as Hydra as a what if concept like “What if Captain America was evil and systematically take over the world.
I see why people didn’t like it Spencer’s run but people that like the run (Rob) need to stop vilifying fans just because of different opinions and putting them in boxes otherwise you end up becoming the thing you hate. I still think Brubaker run is the all greatest Captain America run.
Not gonna lie, this was a difficult comic series. He was unpopular back when this storyline happened (in universe and comicbook community). Hopefully you've seen the finale, but the ending to Falcon...NO...Spolier alert
Captain America and the Winter Sodlier was amazing. It was done so well and Isaiah Bradley got his recognition in the Disney+ series. Almost cried at this scene.
HELL YES; cover that story and every other story you needs to man.
Does anyone else NOT want Steve Rogers Captain America to come out of retirement? MCU Sam Wilson Captain America earned the right to carry that shield just as much as Steve ever did.
I think Black Captain America is a story desperately needed in today's world.
Honestly don't think he should come back or anyone should take his place. That's just me though.
Sam Wilson looked sick as Captain America, and the combination of Captain America + Falcon abilities were awesome.
Yeah Rob, do the damn Ta-Nehisi Coates Captain America !
Yes! Please cover the captain america stories that no one would read!
Definitely cover the Ta-Nahesi Coates run it is fantastic!
I was really hoping and still am hoping to see that speech from Cap at the end go viral. I wanna know how the whole world would react to that speech, like they do in the show. For better or worse.
Comics explained bout to have 2million subs!!! I remember when you had less then 100k lol marvel explained before this. Congrats 🎉🎉🎉
Yes please cover those unspoken captain america series!!!
I would love it if you covered those captain america stories you mentioned!
"I can explain that if you guys want"... This guy could explain his favourite cheese for an hour and I'd probably watch.
The intro isn’t complete until “And Yeaaaaaaah”
Anthony Mackie made Falcon interesting and likeable. If he was more like that in comics and had his own iconic villains it would work.
U.S. Agent, Bucky, and Sam's suit were my favorite parts of this show!
I like how the MCU put their spin on things. Power Broker is evil but it's Sharon Carter. And U.S. Agent exists and is a good hero rather than a competitor to a new Captain America. (U.S. Agent is so cool to me 😃)
ROB your timing is impeccable ...
Sam out of all the potential legacy cases, was the most legitimate successor imo. I think the ONLY problem is that his as Cap came during a time whenMarvel was replacing ALOT of their characters with minorities or women.
Like Jane Thor, X-23 as wolverine, and a few others.
Sam Wilson as cap actually is brilliant but Marvel was pushing to much agenda based stories that Sam was lumped in with them even though, he as Cap is actually a fantastic idea
If there was any writer who should have been given Sam as Cap, it's Christopher Priest. That man could have done so much with him.
I want those Ta-Nehisi Cotes stories!
Liked it before I heard the video. Timely drop Rob!
YES! please cover the Tallahassee Cap run Thank You!!
Morning Rob! Great way to start my day. Thank you buddy great video!
I'm rereading this series as we speak. I bought every issue as they came out a few years ago! It is so good!!
I think one thing to note with Falcon is that by design he is a team character and not a solo character (just my opinion). He is like the flyer of the team and does what a flyer does but is not design to be the one on one guy on the front line. These type of support characters are great but usually will not hold a comic well as a solo character. Now of the story is about his personal life, maybe it can be great but as a superhero, he is a team guy and made to be in a team book. Xmen has a lot of characters like this.
rob can you just talk about the series, doesnt matter how and why, but i think this the best thing coming out of the mcu.
I liked that they planted the seeds to the "Not my Captain America" part of the comics as soon as he put on the suit. I hope they go deep on a potential season 2
You didn’t hear? There isn’t going o be a season 2, because there making a 4th Captain America Movie
@@Gorypaladin346 I’m sure he knows but he means there are going to be people to dislike him in the suit and that might play a part in the movie and season 2 going forward
You really should cover the Ta Nehisi Coates Captain America run..... That would be so AWESOME!!!
A grown man cried during that scene where Sam showed Isaiah his statute, me!
Grow a pair....
@@SlickRick4EVER stfu and grow up dipshit
Cover captain america! there’s not enough of him on this channel
Man I love Hydra Steve Rogers when he nudge Sam and mess up his throwing of the shield. Just cause Sam to doubt everything about himself greatness.
Perfect time to drop this haha.
Sooo
You still think you can beat me? I’m always prepared 😎
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Deadass 😆
I mean..that’s the point lol
The only issue with the status quo basically not changing is that it becomes stale, and that there's no overall growth. There's no point to a passing of a torch if that torch is just gonna be returned. It makes the sacrifice pointless.
Beyond omega level: The Dweller in Darkness
Hey rob, thought I’d might share a series idea that I find interesting. Can you do a series however long you want, to make a shared movie universe between marvel and dc. Combining characters and stories all in one, not like the amalgamation thing. However you want to do it, like having Deadpool go team up with with Batman for example. Have a good day, and keep up the good content.
Oh wow! really!! you’re gonna comment this dumb idea in every video.
@@blowc1612 This is only my 2nd time commenting this, I’m sorry I’m just giving ideas to a TH-camr whether he wants to do it or not idk. It’s interesting I’m still in your mind and you remember me, you still haven’t told me why it is dumb, and I’m still gonna comment it every video whether you like it or not. You dumbass
@@7brucewayne7 no, it’s such an idiotic idea, it’s glaring and easy to spot. Plus you’re so pathetic in life that you use a comic book name for your handle trying to act like your the character because you have no originality in real life. Simple, the whole world doesn’t revolve around you.
@@blowc1612 Wow, you are really a low life human. That fact that your mad about my pfp and name shows how immature you are. Idk what a bLoWc16 and how that is so original but do you man. Also how did this become about the world revolving around me tf. I simply have a idea of which you still haven’t told me why it’s a “idiotic idea” to see what Rob thinks of it. Stop acting like a tough guy online and keep your thoughts to yourself
At 11 mins: I remember Rage in the 90s from his card. Marvel series 2 cards. The first set with stats.
Such a badass episode. Thanks for the breakdown.
Phenomenal work!
I wanted more episodes from the series, 6 is too little
season 2 is confirmed
That whole episode was great!!! Did not expect our debunked power broker to go unabated to continue her villainy with only a gunshot wound
Hey Rob, can you explain:
1)Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Comics)
2)Spider-Woman (Julia Carpenter)
3)The Mother of Existence
4)Kang the Conqueror
5)Mogo the Living Planet
6)Crimson Dynamo (Valetin Shatalov)
7)Bat-Mite
8)Blue Beetle(Jaime Reyes)
9)Solomon Grundy
10)Etrigan
11)Hellboy
12)The Young Avengers
13)Judge Death
14)The Tick
15)Lego Bionicle Comics
16)Hawkman & Hawkgirl
17)the Mandarin
18)Steel
19)The Eradicator
20)Cyborg Superman
21)Reptil
22)the Doom Patrol
23)The Key(DC)
24)Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew)
25)Lobster Johnson
26)Trigon
Beyond Omega Level:
Odin’s Doom(Ultimate Alliance Final Boss Dr Doom)
Ultra Instinct Shaggy
Do you have an Armor Wars video?! This Powerbroker talk is bringing up a lot of stuff about Rhode and Hammer Tech and I’d love to see you make a video about it!
Also thanks man, love your channel! Keep up the good work!!!
Amazing explanation! Btw i think its time for you to change that intro (the scene with only youtube logo). I kinda dont get it whats the point of that display 😅
Here's my fan theory after watching the last episode Sharon Carter is actually a Skrull in disguise
Everyone: new Captain America
Me: hell yeah Captain Falcon looks bad asssssss
Please do cover T. Coates’ run on Captain America.
"Ta Nehisi-Coats' Captain America, that one was really good too.... " statements like that make it hard for me to take anything Rob says about comics too seriously.
He can’t have an opinion on things?
@@charlesnash1218 One that should be received with lots skepticism. He's becoming the Jimmy Fallon of comics.
now, as a Scandinavian my mind went to to loads of: "what?"" places during Episode 5-6... For sure America has loads of history that i probably will never fully grasp.. That being said, Seeing Sam turning into Captain America was AWESOME!! But all that talk about "Black man this, Black man that" "Black people this, Black people that" didn't hit home with me... That might just be due to me being from where i am, and us never having had such a racial "divide/struggle".. I don't know.. But i am whole heartedly happy to see Sam take up the mantle as Captain!
Love from Norway!
AMAZING SPIDERMAN 542!!!!!
SPIDEY ABSOLUTELY WRECKS KINGPIN
Lol all I learned from this is that red skull perpetually has a cosmic cube taped to his palm
Too funny. The dude is seriously the greatest thief of all time apparently.
It's so strange to me that people are so invested in fictional characters. I've been reading comics since I was a child and I appreciate them for the stories that they tell. If something changes who cares its a story 🤣😂. The power of comics is in the narrative, sell me on the story. What does it say about you that you're threatened by the change in a fictional character? People are so strange.
Rob should do a video covering the marvel animes that came out a decade ago like xmen, wolverine, blade and ironman.
I’d like for u to cover that cap story. I wanna hear more about Coates’ writing
The costume was spot oooon...
could we get a video on joaquin torres falcon? he's very likely gonna show up in the mcu at some point and it would be cool to see a video on his history!