I struggled a bit making this video because I almost felt like I was being disloyal. I really like Sam, he's one of the reasons that phase 2 and 3 of the MCU were so good. I loved his dynamic with Steve and Nat and Bucky and I wanted to see more of it. I desperately want to know what the team got up to in the two years they were on the run/stationed in Wakanda. I feel kind of robbed because we didn't see it. That would have been a really neat tv show or even just its own separate films. Additionally, if we wanted to see more Steve, the entire five years of "the blip" should have been its own phase on its own. I wish that avenue had been explored. And now, unless there is some sort of a hard reboot which I'm not sure if I'm in favour of, we'll never see it. Of course Chris Evans is totally disconnected from the MCU right now, but I would wholeheartedly take him back if we could. Anyway, something I didn't talk about much in this video is Sam's suit. I'm mean, its glaringly obvious that his head isn't covered and he doesn't have the super soldier serum to protect it when he takes a direct hit. The vibranium shield and wings might stop a missile, but they certainly aren't going to protect Sam from the sheer force that a hit like that should generate. They are having him do stunts that we're accustomed to seeing from super soldiers and Sam just isn't one. *Edit* I AM FULLY AWARE THAT SAM WAS CAP IN THE COMICS. However from what I understand the sales of those comics weren't very high because they weren't as well liked. So if it wasn't profitable or liked in the comics, why is it being done here?
That’s the thing. As they have already shown in the D+ show, the story will have him be just as strong and impervious as he needs to be when the plot demands, so the whole “he refused power when offered” will itself be a red herring. They will make him play the full part of a superhero even if he’s not technically supposed to be one. Like Natasha in her solo outing. Yes, it would be nice if choices and actions had consequences.
Don't feel bad, it's just who you are! White people like you love to complain, especially about fictional stuff that has no bearing in the real world! People in the real world are losing their lives, and this is what you want to focus on!
What I wanted to see was a team-up between Cap and Falcon, like in the comics (at least for a while) and focused on their friendship and teamwork. Cap represented the Army, Falcon the Air Force, and they worked together to get things done. Also, Sam is his own man, he doesn't need Cap's title nor shield to give him some sort of validation; it's kind of insulting, really.
"Falcon and the Winter Soldier" is very invested in this idea that Steve is the only one with incorruptible "morals" but....Bucky was never corrupted by the serum, Bucky was brainwashed by Hydra.
@@studebricker2845Because Bucky was dead for 80 years in the comics, Sam is Steve's best friend, and Sam has years more combat experience, training, and experience as a leader than Bucky ever did in either the comics or the movies.
@@MrBazBake That's funny because Steve also had no experience when he became Cap, yet he was able to defeat Hydra/Red Skull. Pretty sure his super soldier serum had something to do with that. So yah, Bucky should have been the new Cap. It just makes sense, since they were best friends and all...
@@studebricker2845 the killer of the Starks the new Cap. Damn yall hate Tony. LMAO. Hell no. Why give a terrorist the shield? Steve isn't crazy you folks are clearly nuts. Let me guess Hitle should be Cap as well right? I'm sure you would make an argument on how Red Skull should be Cap instead of Sam. Hold this L my guy.
The problem is the writers don't seem to grasp Sam is just a dude in a suit, he isn't a super soldier, that was an important part of Steve's character and skill set. Hell just wielding the shield would be borderline impossible for Sam as even if the thing only weighs like 5 pounds, throwing and catching that thing constantly in battle will reduce your arm to a limp noodle in minutes due to the extreme strain on a persons's muscles. Steve avoid that due to the Serum essentially preventing muscle fatigue as well as greatly enhanced strength
It is physically impossible for anyone to do what is done with the Captain America shield. Even if you have super strength. It is not rubber. How does it bounce? It's crazy how people suddenly get their physics degree when a black man is the superhero.
@@PandaPanda-ud4ne Did yall even watch falcon and the winter soldier? That’s not just any suit. It’s made of vibraium. Sam has literally lifted a truck with his suit and tanked a heliport falling on him with no damage. He is easily just as strong if not stronger than cap.
Natasha is just a woman in a suit, so is Hawkeye, so is Iron Man. There's only one difference, and everyone can see what that is. If you're having trouble seeing this, let me know, and I'll explain it to like i would a 5 year old.
I wouldn't give Sam extra points for the "when we start"... Sam literally had nothing else to do, but for example, Hawkeye does the same thing, he's going to fight for what's right and he has a family to lose, and in fact he loses his family at one point, luckily he got them back even though he still loses his best friend in Natasha, when Steve meets Sam he had nothing to lose, no family, no girdfriend, and apparently he didn't even have friends, i would have thought that he hav friends in his "former air combat unit", but that was never talked about.
@@mcruz4571 There is not point to talking about Sam's life when it would have messed up the pacing of the story. Sam has friends and likely female friends as he has been known to have dated some of the more powerful heroes.
Your commentary is interesting, but it ignores a key plot point from the first Cap movie. The super soldier serum doesn't simply provide a physical boost. It serves as an amplifier that dials up behavioural traits that already exist. The whole reason Steve Rogers was selected was his mental and emotional attributes, not his combat skills. The reason subject selection was so important was so that they did NOT end up with Red Skull or John Walker. It's possible that Sam Wilson didn't have any emotional baggage and that the serum wouldn't adversely impact him, but it's equally possible that it could. All the caution and discretion displayed in the first movie to find the RIGHT test subject went out the window after that. Everybody seemingly forgot that the side effect of the serum was that it could turn you into a super-powered rage monster, and they started talking about handing out the serum like candy on Halloween. I agree with everything you said about the new generation of Marvel heroes, and that Sam Wilson without super powers simply can't be Captain America as most people envision the character.... but in canon, Sam's decision to reject the serum and his fear of how it might "corrupt" him are rational. The serum DOES amplify your strongest instincts whether that is to help people, protect the innocent, punish evil or control the world. Sam isn't rejecting power because of some misled view that power is evil. Sam is rejecting the very REAL possibility that embracing that particular kind of power may mean altering his personality in a way he may not like... and for THAT reason, his decision makes sense, even if it means there will never be another Cap.
Well reasoned. It might be that that is how the super soldier serum works in the MCU as it holds together well across all super soldiers. Bucky was first shown in his army uniform and was a commando while human and became the winter soldier who is maybe the only match for cap. Red Guardian might have had a sense of humor and become even more jovial and sentimental after the serum. The super soldier's Zemo executed in Wintr Soldier would have been selected from the most hardcore and brutal KGB and so were absolute souless psycho's. The guys in Falcon and the Winter soldier were activists and after the serum became international terrorists over squatter's rights. Even the star flower from Black Panther might qualify as T'Challa became even more noble and diplomatic and Shuri more brave and resourceful and Killmonger even more determined and vengeful. I think you are right.
Wow! I was going to comment on this commentary, BUT you said it all! You’re right. I too think Sam is afraid the serum may peak something negative inside him. Once you take it there’s no turning back. I would like to think it preserves Cap in a very respectful way….as the ONLY true Captain America. Thanks for your insightful comment.
Not to mention the knowledge he has of the death of all the experimental black patients. Isaiah Bradley was the only survivor. And he was treated horribly…
The "you've gotta do better Senator" its one of the funniest cringiest memes of the MCU for me, its so bad that everytime anyone brings that up i die laughing
That speech was terrible because it went around in circles trying to say something but ended up saying nothing. What exactly was Sam trying to say? That the politicians should embrace the Flag smashers ideology of a world without borders? That they should just create wealth & property out of nothing to recompense the newly restored victims of the Blip? Those are genuinely complex issues that have no clear cut solutions to them.
@ Because he doesn’t exactly say what the politicians should do to fix the situation. Marvel knew that the problem of how to rehabilitate the billions of people who came back to find their old homes & property taken away was a complex minefield so they didn’t let Sam actually take a side on the issue. But for a character like Sam that’s cowardly to just say “do better” without actually saying what they should do.
@@loverboyjmac its a weird scene, Sam treats the politicians as if they were the ones in the wrong but at the same time treats the literal terrorist leader that has killed people like a reasonable person that had to do it for justifiable reasons, hell he even arrives like a heavenly figure to the place with Carlys body like he is this heavenly figure that has forgiven the ones that dont follow and then the speech goes off and welp.... it sucks too, hope that my pov helps
During that scene I'm imagining Sam talking to Ted Cruz like that lol. Yeah that'd work. Also completely unbelievable that the government would be so quick to fess up about what they did to Isaiah, and build a huge tribute to him. It started out strong and had a very childish simplistic ending.
The thing is Sam isn't trying to be someone else. He is still Sam. What happens is that Sam holds the same values as Steve. That's why Steve chose him to be the New Captain América.
And let's not forget this was an actual storyline in the comics in the... 70's? The difference is of course Steve Rogers returned to be Cap in the comics. But yes. Sam Wilson is the Falcon and a darn good one.
Steve didn’t side with a terrorist (winter soldier) , he believed in a childhood friend and another good man (Bucky). Sam’s character hasn’t shown a similar show of heart or faith under pressure.
Sam Wilson is the best Falcon. His bond-like gadgetry was cool touch. That being said, he doesn't have the same presence as Steve Rogers. He feels like a hero trying to be a different hero. It didn't really work out in the comics either. It was a sign that the golden age of comics was dying. Sam Wilson is Falcon just like Miles Morales is Miles Morales.
Miles Morales is still Spider-Man, just an alternate world version. Sam Wilson is different but still Captain America. Just give him the Super Soldier Serum and call it a day!
I feel like I’m the only one who thinks they both could’ve been cap. Imo that would’ve been cool to see. 2 active caps both bffs with the original carrying on his mantle.
The idea behind the serum is giving power revealed someone's true character. Steve remained a good man. Even with Peter Parker (spider bite, not serum), he became cocky at first. But then he learned "with great power..." It is weird that Sam (and the writers) forgot what made Steve Rogers special.
Just about every superhero that's written goes through a humbling experience that makes them relatable and it's their reaction to it that makes them a hero or not. The difference was Steve was already humbled before he got the serum. He was undersized and grew up with a number of health issues. Spiderman was humbled with his uncle's/aunt's/MJ's death (depending on which universe). John Walker struggled because he had spent so much time before the serum being a strong success at everything he did. Captain Marvel is difficult to relate to because her humbling experience doesn't seem as personal. It was more about man keeping women caged, let me out, hear me roar and is quite played out. She-Hulk never really seemed like she was humbled at all on a personal level and tried to paint all sorts of sleights against women in general as her humbling experience and proceeded to be a know-it-all which no one cares for. It's why no one really cares for that character and the actress even more.
@@MRF1983 What I remember is that Steve was basically used as a cheerleader or propaganda tool by the government instead of being sent to war. That changed when he went on a rogue rescue mission to save Bucky. Maybe there was a part where Steve got cocky somewhere. I'd have to rewatch.
I agree. Sam as Falcon was already a great thing. He had the world's respect as Falcon. Him taking over as Cap feels unnecessary, or at least how Marvel is playing it. Bucky has a far more interesting character arc with a greater tie to Steve Rogers.
Bucky is interesting to me when he refuses the shield in the comics he even gives it back I prefer the story highlighting how different bucky is to steve because of what he went thru and that's both a strength and a weakness steve and sam are more hopeful and idealistic while bucky is more of a realistic person.
@@Nomad-Rogers, Steve was an egomaniac who believed he knew better than everyone else. The countries of the world adopt a treaty, a treaty his democratically elected approved, and he gave himself the “right” to ignore international law, U.S. law, and the laws of all countries he operated in and he assaulted law officers. How is that not just pure criminality. It is mitigated by his intentions, but Bucky’s brainwashing doesn’t absolve him.
@@BrandontheAwesome "it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer" -Benjamin Franklin. Yes he also did it to protect the one man that protected him when he was a small guy in Brooklyn and that he loved like a brother, however he knew that was not Bucky and he was being mind contoled. Bucky and the Winter Soldier share the same body but are 2 different people.
I have said this before in other comment sections, and I'll say it again here. Bucky should have been given the shield instead of Sam. Bucky knows Steve's character better than anyone else in the entire MCU. He knows why Steve is the perfect man to be Captain America. He knows he isn't worthy. Donning the mantle of Captain America would have been an act of contrition for him, penance for his actions as the Winter Soldier. What's more, Steve knows who Bucky really at his core. They could have also had Bucky use the shield defensively, never throwing it offensively like Steve did, in a way to highlight the inner struggles of how much Bucky holds on to the memories of his only real friend and that the shield is a symbol he knows he can never live up to. They could explore Bucky being more violent than Steve but trying to be a better man despite his own flaws. It would have added a stark comparison to the man that Steve was instead of the less noble, but not really flawed Sam Wilson in the MCU.
Both the first Captain America movies and second Captain America movie literally foreshadow Bucky becoming Captain America when he picks up his sheild. The thing is Bucky was Captain America in the comics before Sam Wilson. But they decided to just make Sam Wilson Captain America because it was a newer comics during when Endgame came out.
Difficult to say. Honestly, Bucky is kind of a war criminal ... They touched upon that in the show I think, but it would have been weird for him to suddenly become the symbol of peace imo 😅
@ Black Widow was brainwashed assassin as well but nobody complains about her breaking away from being brainwashed and being an assassin and instead becoming a superhero. Yet people have a problem Bucky doing the same.
Here's one of the reasons I love Captain America, and will never really accept anyone but Steve Rogers behind the shield: his fictitious story helped shape a real one. Most people don't know or understand that the Scouting movement has its own awards system for valor, and Scouting has its own Audie Murphy/Smedley Butler. His name is George Oldroyd and he was my Scoutmaster. George was a disabled kid who was later partially paralyzed after he broke his back in a car wreck, and then taught himself to walk again using titanium-hinged braces on his legs and feeling for the sensation of the ground underfoot in his knees. And yet, even though he was already the most-decorated Scout lifesaver in history when that happened, no one had heard about him because he never worked the kind of PR magic that makes people famous. He went on to receive two Honor Medals after his accident, both for fighting dangerous fires with the prospect for an explosion, and the last one in front of a nursing home. He was so gravely injured that he lost a leg and nearly went blind, which is horrifying since, as a pituitary giant, he is already going deaf. For that one he received the Honor Medal with Crossed Palms, the highest award made by the B.S.A. National Court of Honor for valor, as well as receiving a bar for his Bronze Cross for Gallantry from the B-P Scout Movement in the U.K. He had already received it one other time, but that makes him the only one to receive the Honor Medal twice since it was first constituted in 1923, and the only one to receive the top valor award from Scouting in two different countries. If you ask him who his early insirations were, he'll tell you about Captain America, Batman, Luke Skywalker, and his firefighter father. But as an Eagle Scout he always loves Captain America. He has a proud jingoistic streak and makes no apologies for flying the Betsy Ross flag in front of his home, or for wearing it on his uniform. Cap matters. Steve Rogers example matters. Without it, the sheer tonnage of lives that might not have been spared because George Oldroyd didn't stick his neck out to save them is unknowable. How many others took similar inspiration?
George Bailley from It's a Wonderful Life, The Bishop from Les Mis, and Booster Gold from Volume Two. My favorite art is that which inspires us to be better people.
I started reading Captain America in 1976 and my most prized toys were Mego Captain America and Falcon. Like my father, he fought in WWII. The Invaders were a favorite title of mine and I saw them use the "new Cap" trope. Spirit of '76, Patriot, John Walker, Bucky, and Falcon. It always returns to Steve Rogers. That's what made the Hydra Cap so ridiculous, is that Steve Rogers is incorruptible. Captain America is Steve Rogers, not because he was first, but because he WAS Captain America, even before he got the serum.
“The role of Captain America was the only one not handed to a woman” But we have seen female Captain America in the form of Peggy. In fact Peggy has seen more appearances as Captain America is than Sam
I agree 100%. The Sam Wilson character had a lot of potential as Falcon, but as Cap Sam Wilson was non-existent. when his film releases there will be a 4 year gap since the audience has seen him, why didn't he make appearances in other MCU shows and movies, especially if he is supposed to be one of the leaders of the Avengers? It feels like he is being thrown in because of their poor decision making with a certain character 2 years ago?
Narratively I admit Sam earned the shield Old Man Rogers gave him. However, I wonder if Endgame's ending was natural instead of manufactured for a pre-approved conclusion if Steve Rogers, as Bucky's best friend, would've saw that Bucky needed the shield. Decades prior Bucky was physically holding Captain America's shield in his hands until a Hydra henchman blasted him out of Hydra's train and away from the shield. He's held onto the shield multiple times afterwards but every time since WWII, using the shield defensively, he's wielded the shield as a weapon. Bucky as the Winter Soldier used offensive weapons for each appearance following his last scene within Captain America The First Avenger. Arm included. As of this moment, for the foreseeable future, he will evidently continue packing an arsenal of weapons. I don't believe this future is ideal. Bucky's entire future was derailed from the moment he picked up Captain America's shield for the first time but it was neither his nor the shield's fault. If Captain America gave his shield to Bucky, this act could've begun a transformative journey clearly missing from the MCU now. I keep hearing how Sam Wilson is already the perfect person for Captain America. Which is true since he's a static character whose remained the same throughout his appearances until Falcon and the Winter Soldier. That's why I believe there's more of a story in handing the shield over to someone who would immediately confess he's not a good man if offered the shield. I hear explanations revolving around how Bucky's currently unworthy when each phase 1 superhero experienced a similar character story arc before transforming into heroes. Sam's hesitancy was, in continuity, unfounded during Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Sam Wilson would've tried as he promised immediately upon accepting Captain America's new shield. That's why I believe he earned that shield while Bucky needed the broken original. The same shield Captain America carried is the one which belonged to Bucky and once repaired two Captain Americas could taken Steve Roger's place.
Then, "The Falcoln and the Winter Soldier" should have followed the Civil War comic and made both Bucky and Sam Captain Americas, on Super Soldier Serums.
@@gohanson27 That's why it would make it great redemption story. A man haunted by crimes of his past that he had no control of. Upon taking on the mantle, learning how to forgive himself, not let his past define who he is, regaining the public's trust as a hero with a controversial past, and honor his best friends legacy.
It's a wish fulfilment story for fans but a former enemy agent who had assassinated an American president could never have been Captain America. HYDRA would leak the information in a heartbeat and destroy his as a symbol of the American way. It had to be Sam.
He was also a Hydra asset and killed a bunch of people. Idk how the public would accept him. They should’ve just built up Sam’s character better if they were going to have him replace Steve. Instead he was snapped by Thanos and gone for almost all of Endgame. Could’ve kept him and developed him more instead of shoehorning him in as the new cap at the end of the movie
@Ray03595 Bucky reconciling his past and trauma with being the new Cap should have been several seasons of plot in the Falcon and the Winter Soldier imho. Sam would have been the perfect partner to help Bucky work through his stuff. Oh well.
Now, Anthony has come out and said that his suit gives him superhuman abilities. So now it makes the idea of him rejecting the serum completely meaningless. He now has a suit that does the exact same thing for him. They just have no idea what they're doing over at marvel.
Around 7:30, you make the astute observation that the recent marvel movies seem to portray power gained by women is wielded virtuously, whereas power whelmed by men is at best ambiguous. I think that's a very perceptive read on the subtext of the films. I haven't seen several of them, so maybe it's said more explicitly by the films themselves, but I'm still impressed you put that together. I'm thankful for your channel. You've always got a perspective that I feel better for having heard through.
What do you mean? Black widow had no external power wielded by a woman. Just regular Natasha. No super powers Wanda's power in Wandavision is viewed as the literal start of her 2nd villain origin. she or rather her fired is the villain. Walker is redeemed while Karli who had the super soldier is irredeemable in FATWS. He Who Remains is a man who is the villain with super powers in Loki. In Shang Chi when the main character gets the 10 rings super powers it's viewed as virtuous In Eternals it's only when all of them including the white heterosexual man Ikaris uses their power together do they use it virtuously In NWH the MCU peter is given great power virtuously wielding it to help others at his own expense. I can name 2022, 2023, and 2024 MCU projects if you want but that's just not true that women get powers and use them for good while men get powers and use them for bad in the MCU.
@@Thed538dhsk It's curious that you seem to have an encyclopedic knowledge of these Disney movies, but you overlooked me plainly stating "I haven't seen several of them." The fact of the matter is, I have as much desire to watch and internalize these comic movies as I have to engage with random weirdos online. If you aren't being paid to white knight for Disney, I strongly encourage you to reconsider how you're spending your life. This is a lonely path you're taking. You may have the last word, but know that I won't read it. Your response is as trivial as these Disney movies are. Have a good life.
@@Thed538dhsk That isnt what he said. He said, that men were portrayed as being unworthy/misplaced as wielders of power, while women were always lauded or applauded as wielders of power. This is not them using it for good or bad, but deeper: It is about getting power and how this is portrayed. In Western Culture we have come to a point, where weakness and powerlessness of men are applauded and desired, while strength and power of women is applauded and desired. Again: It is not about who does what with the power they are given, but how they are portrayed when power is given to them.
@@PandaPanda-ud4ne Bless your heart, Panda. You're a better person than I am. Have a good Thanksgiving. People like you make the world a better place to be in, realtalk.
The thesis that the simple fact of having greater amount of power than those around you automatically corrupts is entirely refuted by the very existence of Steve Rogers. This causes Sam Wilson's ascension into Captain America to be built on a self-contradictory paradox
Bucky too, because he was never technically "corrupted" by the serum either. He was literally just brainwashed by Hydra. He had the same beliefs and ideals as Steve and was the man's best friend from the same time period - and there's nothing about the serum having any corrupting effects on Bucky at all after that Hydra brainwashing crap was removed from him. The show just completely glosses over this lol
5:50 - I agree with you. It's like Jordan Peterson says: You should be a monster, an absolute monster, and then you should learn how to control it. It's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war. If you are not a formidable force, there’s no morality in your self-control. If you are incapable of violence, not being violent isn’t a virtue. Steve Rogers was capable of great violence. And he wasn't naive; he knew it. And then ... he made his choices with compassion.
The irony here is that all of the hero's have to come to terms with the power they are given vs who they are as people, or who they want to be. Sam refusing the serum doesn't make sense on any level, but it especially doesn't make sense in the context of the MCU. Tony - motivated by self interest BECOMES a hero as a result of his actions hurting others. Banner - motivated by self interest BECOMES a hero as the result of his actions being a danger to others. Thor - motivated by self interest BECOMES a hero as a result of his actions causing harm to others. Steve - motivated by self interest BECOMES a hero as a result of his ego and not being willing to accept his weaknesses. Black Widow, Gamora, Peter Quill, etc... All of these characters BECOME hero's despite their failings, and it is their ability to overcome those flaws that make them heroic. Sam disregarding the serum, which is a part of being Captain America come's across as self righteous and ultimately makes him less suited for that specific role. It does not make him any less heroic. Just less suited to be Captain America, who is tasked with doing the things that others can't and remaining heroic regardless of the temptation. It started with Black Panther, and carried on until present day, where they stopped making characters compelling because of their flaws, only to have them overcome them and become inspirational.
Bravo. I am impressed that you speak like someone who has something thoughtful to say & not just someone trying to crank out another video to post on yootoobe. I listened with genuine interest because I wanted to hear your point of view, your opinion & that is sadly rare on most YT videos. Very well done. It made me excited to listen to your other videos so please keep up what you are doing, never doubt that you do have genuine fans.
I loved Falcon in everything...until Falcon and The Winter Soldier. I went into that show excited because of how much I loved this corner of the MCU. I loved Steve, I loved Sam, I loved Bucky. I was curious to see how they moved things forward. That show was such a gut punch of disappointment. I don't know what I was expecting, but I was expecting that whatever they did was going to be a whole lot better than what we got
Yea the argument has a couple fallacies, Sam not taking the serum doesn’t mean Steve Rogers isn’t a good man or virtuous. It’s like you being someone who drinks and i don’t. That doesn’t make you bad it’s just something that isn’t for me. Sam will be a good cap. we just have to let him do his thing and not compare them to Steve. A person who can look at a situation and look for the good within the ideology is smart one. Black Panther did the same with Killmonger. His ideology was flawed but wasn’t necessarily wrong.
That is missing the point. It's not about refusing something that was given to another character, it's about *why* Sam refused it. Why would someone choose not to drink while others do? Is it because they are a recovering alcoholic? Are they afraid of becoming an alcoholic? Sam choosing not to take the serum because he is afraid of being corrupted it by it tells us that accepting power is bad, even though there are plenty of other characters who did - mainly female characters recently. The question she's asks is why is it good for female heroes to accept power but bad when male heroes do it?
@@archentity Do you even live in this world. When men get power we often get stupid. I don't think it has anything to do with gender or who receives the power, but just his choice to want to do what he can the best way he can. There are police officers who have access to a lot of non-standard items but refuse them because they don't want the presence of military while trying to patrol a school or other family events.
@stevenking3060 Power only reveals what a person always was. Steve shows that. I'm sure a character at one point even said that the serum only makes you more of what you already are. It's just weird to see that when a male receives an Avenger's mantle, accepting power is a bad thing - even though they have so many examples of it being a good thing with female characters who receive the mantle.
I had thought that Bucky's Winter Soldier redemptive arc meant that HE was going to take on the mantle of Cptn America (which he does in the comics... as does Falcon), but perhaps that was even to morally questionable given his a ctions (even forced, through mind control).
Honestly, they've been trying to make this whole "mantle" thing work for years. It becoming about race and gender is actually only a recent thing. When they tried replacing Batman with Jim Gordon or Cap with Bucky/John Walker in the comics people were similarly up in arms. The truth is these "mantles" aren't just interchangeable. You can't just take a superhero who fans know and love and just replace them with another person. Maybe if they're an unpopular character or there's major setup for it (Wally West, Blue Beetle, etc), but you can't take a character who has their own identity and just insert them into a preexisting role like this. It's like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
The race/gender thing really kicked off with professional human impersonator Brian Michael Bendis, who was open with his intent to replace Peter Parker with Miles Morales so his biracial daughters could have a Spider-Man to whom they could relate. Apparently the fact that they're half-white doesn't matter, so they can't identify with Peter: they need a half-black, half-hispanic boy and they can definitely relate to that. The bigotry of insisting that people can only identify with their skin color/sex organs has continued to be pushed, and narcissists who play the victim and assert this same statement only fuel the fire. And yeah, both Bucky and Sam have been Captain America before, even though both changes received fan backlash. The comics did a decent job of handling Bucky as Cap, but Sam's recent outings haven't been the best - but then again that's the quality of all comics having gone steeply downhill over the past decade with precious few exceptions. I don't know why anyone has hope for new Marvel movies considering the studio's stable of writers and emphasis on hollow spectacle.
Bucky should have inherited the mantle of Cap. That's a redemption arch worth watching, complicated but interesting nonetheless. Falcon should have had it's own thing, it's a really awesome character, but with a Cap costume on top of it, just feel like lazy writing.
Just like the video says, the mantle passing thing just doesnt work. If Steve is gone, then Captain America should be gone. The only time a torch passing has worked was Batman Beyond. And for some reason comic writers hate Terry McGinnis.
@@3mPeRaToR brainwashed or not, Bucky was a terrorist. I’d argue it’d be harder to accept the man who shot a goddamn president AND murdered the Starks as the new Captain America than it would be for a man of color. Brainwashed or not, Bucky still did those things. He admitted it himself in Civil War. Besides, F&WS made it clear that he wanted out of fighting (as for what gets him involved with the Thunderbolts remains to be seen). Bucky’s been through enough. He’s done his time. Sam has been coming of age. However I feel like the world wouldn’t necessarily “need” another Captain America if not for John Walker. He tainted the history of the mantle, and Sam, while he isn’t perfect, is by far the best person to fix things
You make excellent points. Using the wings and the shield, we see Sam do everything that Cap did and more anyway. He might as well have taken the serum, because apparently human strength is all you need to throw the shield hard enough to stick in a tree. He can still hold the shield while it's deflecting bullets. He cuts cars in half with his wings. Basically with Sam, they've both demonized the serum AND rendered it useless at the same time.
I just want to point out that in the source material, the comic books, going all the way back to 1941, Captain America did not have super powers. The super soldier serum pushed Steve Rogers to the theoretical limit of human ability…beyond olympian level in every area of athletic performance. But he wasn’t superhuman. His physicality, combined with exhaustive training in every facet of war, combat tactics, espionage, martial arts, etc. made him the ultimate soldier. But this argument - that Marvel is saying it’s evil to take the serum - is silly. Power corrupts, it’s true. But only the hearts of the corruptible. It just depends on the person. In the real world, it’s very difficult to resist the moral decay wealth, and the power that comes with it, typically cause. Here, remember that Rogers was a physically enfeebled man, but a morally strong one, before the serum. Men of average strength, never subjected to the kinds of abuse, and not having suffered from the maladies, that made Rogers empathic and sensitive to the plight of others, are far more likely to grow distant from normal people, to see themselves as arriving at an elevated status. Sam Wilson may recognize this, and he therefore chooses to forego the temptation. Women in our culture are generally socialized (or are naturally inclined, or both…the reason(s) are, of course, uncertain and debatable) to be more empathic, more attuned, more collaborative, and more communal, than men. They’re less susceptible to the corruptions of power. This is definitely NOT to say women can’t succumb to moral corruption. It’s just less likely, generally speaking.
I think you’re misunderstanding what the serum does: it augments your attributes to a superhuman level. In other words, good people become great and vice versa. In refusing the serum, Sam is simply admitting to the fact that he is not as virtuous as Steve is and taking the serum could augment his faults or vices to dangerous levels. Don't forget Red Skull took the same serum and became what he is rather than a dogooder like Cpt America
Sam's new wingnsuit was made by the Wakandans, which greatly enhances his human abilities. The suit is virtually indestructible and probably enhances Sam's physical abilities beyond what Steve Rodgers was physically capable.
The serum didn't just enhanced the physical traits but psychology traits also but isn't that kind of Sam being in doubt of himself and doesn't trust himself with serum .Not sure if we want that in Cap who inspire people trust him and themselves and sure hes got the vibranium suit and all but he is like an ordinary wakandan warrior without the special herb .Will he be able to stop the shield thrown at him by winter soldier bucky i guess not .They should have left the mantle to rest .Falcon alone has so much backstory that they can tell .
Captain America is not about Power. Hulk is stronger than Cap, Thor is stronger than Cap, Strange's magic makes him stronger. It's the MAN. Erskine could've given that formula to anyone, but he found something in Steve Rogers. A Measured man, Self Sacrifice, the ability to use his mind and his heart over braun. In return, Steve could've given the shield to anyone, why Sam? I believe he saw the same things in Sam, that Erskine saw in him. The king who doesn't want to be king. A reluctant hero.
At a minimum, a replacement would need skills and power to use the shield. Here's the replacement has a different skillset and they've upgraded Sam (so that he can turn down being a supersoldier while having the power of a super soldier). As a hypothetical, would it make sense to have wonderwoman take a break and appoint batgirl to fill in? Sorry, I don't know enough comic book characters to craft a good comparison. My complaint about Sam becoming captain america was that I saw pretty much all of the marvel movies and could only remember a single scene he appeared in. A reluctant hero might be good from a dramatic perspective. If his powers open the door to different dynamics (for instance if he requires repairs to his suit and is thus reliant on others he can't trust) then that might be interesting - as. But it seems reasonable to find it jarring. And substituting in a slightly different character would maybe alter the storytelling. For example, if you recast an all powerful character with someone who has to be crafty, then maybe it alters the tone. My view isn't that the audience is never wrong. But if you got them in the door with action, then it's difficult to sell them a different product. It's like a New Coke situation. If you could hand the mantle to someone who is a Steve clone, that would be intensely lazy, but allow you to do a lot of the same things.
Falcon according to the comics took the mantle of Captain America! Many said that he is human....Tony Stark is human too but his armor protected him when he was fighting with Thanos Its the tools you have made who you are no serums qnd other things... Batman is a mere human but from his training he is above all humans And it was a human that brought Superman to his knees... The thing is human or not when you have training and armor from vibranium i think everything is possible in a world of comics...
Won't you prefer to see movies of Sam Wilson training for the role like doing all the training instead of just a montage and boom he is a capable captain America? . The character has no story yet, and marvel like the comics didn't set him up right. We saw all the training batman had to do and how smart he had to become in order to go toe to toe with god's but Sam Wilson just gets the shield and automatically he's capable without any real test or challenge. Steve got the serum, that's instant power, Sam is ordinary, show us how he becomes extraordinary, let the audience care and relate, we can't go from "I can do this all day" to "you need to do better senator". Marvel need to rebrand Sam Wilson if this is to continue.
@@razorprimeI think they did that with "falcon and winter soldier" and they prepared him to be captain America ...we saw moments of him training with the shield above all his armor is from wakanda made from vibranium...I think he enhanced from that armor just like Iron man ...that's why we see scenes impossible from human side but with the armor gave him enhanced mode...he could not reach captain America in terms of agility,strength, stamina,but with his experience I think it's possible...
@@SolidusMark I agree , with the new wakandan suit, it will augmenting his human abilities, I love the suit, But it's not enough. I don't care enough about Sam Wilson because Sam is not captivating or inspiring enough, he is boring !, falcon and the winter soldier was bad, didn't show any real adversity (character development) for Sam, didn't show him become the idea which Captain America represents (morals, leadership, security and good speeches). He is experienced, he fought with the avengers, but now he's on his own, let's face it sam needs more training and combat techniques , imagine him flipping around without his wings and doing martial arts using his jet pack for more force, that is cool. The character needs a superhero script writer who can make him the best captain America, just my opinion. You make good points 👍🏾, pleasure to relate with a fan, what's your favourite captain America movie ?
@@razorprime thanks for response! I like captain America a lot! All his movies I liked them especially Captain America and the winter soldier that it was like a spy movie! Civil War was also good and the Avengers movies but on the part 1 i preferred to have the shield rather those gauntlets...i now it is was from Civil War that departed separated roads that's why did not had his shield but they could somehow bring back! Now for Sam I think and like the idea that the mantle of Captain America could be weild from someone that is human and with technology going for another level...we will see how it goes! But I got to say that Sam has his epic fight moments and looks very stylish ! I am eager to see Henry Canvil as secret agent ( captain Britain) at some point! Lasty I think Captain America represents the marines corps and Falcon the Air force..combined now with falcon and captain America together brings a mix of the best together!
@@razorprime Iron man has no fighting training. He is even weaker than Sam Wilson and he is able to go toe to toe with the hulk and everyone accepts that just because he has an Armour. Man ,he is even able to go toe to toe with Thanos!!!.I mean Thanos!!! Thanos holding four of the five infinity stone is way more powerful than the hulk and Stark was able to stand against him. I mean even without the stones Thanos beats iron man. Same for captain America and yet Cap was also able to resist him. Now, if these was possible for these dudes there is no way on earth according to the comic book lore and logic that Sam Wilson cannot be captain America. Especially, with this new wakandian suit and the implying training and abilities he has as the Falcon and in Falcon and The Winter Soldier. Basically, Sam Captain America is just an enhanced super falcon with a shield which is why he is able to wield the shield .People are talking about Sam's abilities as if it was the issue. It's not, even in the comics. The only reason that could be acceptable is character and knowing Steve and Sam It's not the issue. Sam knows the current issues, he is military and he has a strong moral core that made it stands again and again alongside cap. As an audience we might not like it but it has nothing to do with Sam being worthy of the mantle or not. Saying otherwise is ridiculous and stupid at best and disingenuous if not racist at worse no matter the arguments. The only thing that matter is how good and meaningful the movie will be.
What it comes down to is the people running Marvel Studios DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING!! You can blame it all on directors, producers or writers but when you boil it down the one person who’s shoulders it ultimately falls on is KEVIN FEIGE!! BTW, he’s also in charge of the comics and, well, you can see where that is going… Is there no ACCOUNTABILITY ANYWHERE?? Get rid of the SOB. And while we’re at it why is Marvel picking stories from their awful 75/85 era instead of the 65 to 70 timeline when this was the period that built the company and it was their most profitable? Jeez, it’s almost as if Marvel WANTS to shoot them selves in the foot much like their nearest competitor, DC!
Go back to the First Avenger and recall what Dr. Erskine said to Tommy Lee Jones's character. Steve was the only pick because he had no real power before and therefore understood what it means to be without it. A big, strong lad like Jones's pick (I don't recall his name) would have become cruel in the same way Red Skull did because the serum always amplifies the characteristics of whoever takes it. "Good becomes better and bad becomes worse." John Walker demonstrated undiagnosed PTSD and moreso was demonstrated as a frontrunner. He was the 21st century version of the Jones pick and the serum exacerbated his flaws. The fact that Sam wasn't tempted by the serum means he probably would have been fine if he took it, but he literally states in the trailer that he is not trying to be Steve Rogers, so we should probably stop expecting him to be.
That's the problem I'm seeing from the comments and the vid, everyone expects him to be like Steve, but he isn't. He's trying to be his own Captain America, using his own values and morals to be the man Steve *knew* he could be. And for some reason no one's getting that part.
Sam was perfectly fine as Falcon. Just because he doesn't wanna take the serum and is a good guy doesn't mean he should be the next Captain America. He worked so well because he helped people despite not being in the lead role. He's a great supporting character. There's nothing wrong with him continuing playing that role.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp But he doesn't need to stay in that role. Sam didn't get to be worthy, he's always been worthy. And his arc in FATWS isn't about him earning the mantle of the shield, it's about him fighting against everybody that thinks he didn't, including himself. He's proving to himself that he *CAN* be Captain America and that's exactly what he does. It's the same as Miles Morales proving to himself that he can be Spider-Man, different from Peter, but still a hero who understands "That with Great Power, There must also come Great Responsibility" and be a friendly neighborhood hero who helps out those in need. And that's what Sam Wilson's Captain America is. A good man with a good heart who wants to lend a helping hand to those in need, just like Steve in spirit, but clearly doing his own thing as Captain America.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Yet Steve doesn't try to help combat vets with their ptsd and help them integrate back into society out of the kindness of his heart. Sam does. Sam shares the same values as Steve, yes, but he also clearly has different views on how issues and situations should be approached, he tries to de-escalate a lot and I've never seen Steve do that all that much. Unless I'm forgetting somethings. Anyways, Sam having inherit goodness is a good trait because Captain America isn't about the powers, the shield or symbol, it's about being a good man and having empathy for your enemies, which Sam shows us by the end of FATWS by empathizing with the Flag Smashers and *why* they decided to take the actions that they did. And I'm not saying that I or Sam agree with what they did, but I'm saying that him empathizing with them and what caused them to go down this path is great example of him being a good man. And that's why he's the best person to be Cap.
I think you misunderstand that talk that Sam had with a senator. He wasn't talking about the rights of terrorists. He was talking about what they were doing with millions of people around the world, deciding on who got what and who lived where with total dispassion. The story was imperfect. But I got it. I think you also don't see the suit that he's wearing for what it is. If you go back and look at the avengers assemble cartoon, his new wakanda suit is more like that one. He's a mini iron Man in that costume now.
Great think piece. I appreciate you putting it together. I do feel like a few comparisons and conclusions were overreaching a bit, though. At the same time you were consistent with your thought process. Great job. Personally, I had my doubts about Sam in the beginning. I originally thought Steve would give the shield to Bucky. Looking back, giving it to Sam made the most sense and he was probably the better choice. With little effort they gave Sam foundation in terms of motivation and he's grown so much as a character since then. I think Sam and, by extension, this movie are going to be a major catalyst bringing people back to the MCU and something my kids can latch on to, going forward.
Sam Wilson is a good character, but they are trying to turn him into something he never was, a super-icon. Sam Wilson's charm was his everyday man appeal. He wasn't special, he wasn't pumped up on super soldier serum, he wasn't an icon of virtue, he was just a guy trying to the best he could with what he had (Mind you those wings are pretty handy). But now they are trying to make him into the iconic Captain America. That was Steve Rogers tale. A man easy to ignore but through his goodness of character rose to be a HUMBLE icon. The only kind of icon that can exist without turning despotic is one who is humble. THAT is Steve Rogers story. It doesn't fit with Sam's story and shouldn't be treated with the casual disregard for character that Marvel has shown with this decision. Sam was already the man he was meant to be...he doesn't need the transformation into an icon.
Captain Caucasian America: Make sure only white corrupt guys like John Walker or Bucky take my mantle bcs I would hate see a non-white take the lead bcs I grew up believing only white people get to be heroes. There I fixed it for you.
Rogers was THE hero of America's Greatest Generation in its biggest war. He paired and contrasted nicely with Falcon's modern values and perspective while sharing the same patriotism. But Falcon doesn't bring an extraordinary superpower, values or perspective that modern America needs. He's a side character who showcases how things are now, not what they ought to be.
It feels like you missed the whole point of Captain America. It’s the man that makes him… Sam has that new Vibranium suit and shield. Not to mention he’s been Cap in the comics for a good long run.
It was done in the comics by inferior writers who had run out of ideas. I'd love to sit in pitch meetings for this crap and see how they argue their way into writing these stupid stories. I've read Norse Mythology and there's never been a female Thor, but there are several powerful females. They can focus on core material and not write stupidity in a weak attempt to attract an auduence they know they don't have.
@@chadbennett7873 Marvel Thor has always only been extremely loosely based on actual Norse myth. For example, Odin's horse was the child of Loki when he shape changed into a mare and gave birth to an 8 legged horse. Thor also was not involved romantically with a human nurse, or scientist in the movie version.
@@TroySavary Of course, they took many liberties, but turning the main character into a female was a bridge too far. If they want to do that, make a new title "Lady Thor" or whatever. Like Spider-Woman. I read it in the early days, I'm well aware of how loosely based on the mythology it is.
They complain that Falcon has no powers and that it would not be possible for him to do the things Steve did, mainly because it would not be plausible in terms of “writing”; however, they seem to selectively choose to forget that in these fictional universes our real-life rules almost never apply, i.e. Falcon co-exists in a world where characters like Daredevil, Punisher, many of the SHIELD agents, Hawkeye, Iron Man and Black Widow are portrayed as humans without powers, but no one seems to mind that Tony Stark survived a free fall in the desert carrying a clunky Mark I, nor does it bother them that Hawkeye is able to directly fight aliens armed with technology far more advanced than his bow.
Daredevil does have powers though, even though he’s blind, He has heightened senses. Punisher is basically a street-level anti hero in the MCU as well.
@@devrayne6770 It doesn't matter if Daredevil has heightened senses, I'm talking about the physical aspect and his feats around it. In all his iterations he does things that even the best wrestler or acrobat in the real world can't do, same with Punisher and the others, but no one cares because they suspend their disbelief to enjoy a story. For some reason they can't do the same with Falcon, who has already fought aliens in Infinity War.
In the comics, Sam is a telepath. Professor Xavier believes him to be a mutant. This Sam is non canonical. They just figured he wasn't a popular character so they took more liberty with him, ignoring the fact that he would eventually be Cap. But, Sam can speak to animals, Redwing is NOT a robot, but an actual Falcon. In the source material, he doesn't ONLY rely on his wings and fighting skills, but also his telepathy. He doesn't go into battle alone, he always has his telepathy as well. This is an issue because he's not Sam at all. Once again, he's a product of the script writers ignoring the source material. The character wasn't developed, isn't the actual character, and this version of him is even more dependent on technology since his powers are NOT present. He's called Falcon because he can communicate with birds and animals, what's Thor without lightning? Why would ya take away your hero's number one ability?
Haven't watched the video but read some comments. Seems weird that people have such a problem with Sam being Captain America in the comics 11 different people have been Captain America at some point including Sam.
And they suck and they are lame, and pale in comparison too. Just because it's in the comic, doesn't mean it's good. Copying major characters has been the hackiest gimmick for generations now.
Nah instead it shoulda been the guy the killed people for the better half of his life, who didn’t want the gig in the first place. Including starks parents. A lot of people talking about things they probably haven’t even read…real shame.
Yeah. The whole “viewing the serum as a bad thing” was definitely not a good thing to do. Sam somewhat did well without it which was commendable…. BUUUT the minute he spoke out against the senators whom where just attacked by terrorists whom have not only destroyed many buildings, but killed MANY PEOPLE TOO, and terrorized people to get what they want, demanded that they not call THE TERRORISTS TERRORISTS and say that the terrorists didn’t do ANYTHING WRONG and that the senators “gotta do better”…. Not gonna lie, that was downright distasteful, and despicable. At least with Bucky, his excuse was that he was brainwashed for many years while Bucky might as well have turned himself in considering how guilty he feels. But Karli knew what the fuck she was doing, she willingly killed innocent people “for her cause”…. The flag smashers are terrorists, PERIOD…. And because of that terrible speech, MCU Sam lost my respect In him, and does not deserve the mantle of Captain America…. (Edit) Okay, he may have not said that the terrorists do anything wrong, but the fact is he was acting as if Karli was in the right during the situation, the fact is he still insisted that they stop calling the terrorists that were doing terrorists shit and few minutes ago tried to kill the senators “terrorists”. He might as well have said that the terrorists didn’t do anything wrong…
Right, getting brainwashed is a legitimate 'excuse' because he was not acting of his own will. Once The White Wolf was deprogrammed and rehabilitated, he was the only real choice to take the mantle; Steve's best friend since before the war, a commando in his own right, presumed dead in the line of duty, taken captive, given the serum and brainwashed, returning to fight defending the Earth...he more than earned it, plus nothing would be more appropriate than Steve;s best friend who believed in Steve back when he was a sickly 90 lb weakling
@@TalentMthiyaneI’ve learned these people just dislike Sam . For obvious reasons… They literally do mental gymnastics and straight up lie to make him seem like he was on the terrorists side. He was just trying to understand the conflict.
In the movie 'End Game', it was Rogers who chose Sam and didn't choose Bucky and he agreed with him. So you're basically saying Steve Rogers made a mistake... All your post did was make me want to see this movie even more, so THANK YOU...
@@BrandontheAwesome No you are the fake Marvel fan. Your saying the comics and films got it wrong but you have it right? WTF would Bucky be Capt in the MCU? This is so dumb is mind blowing. Let the ex terrorist be Capt America. Bro what!?
I agree with your statements and points of view in the video. In addition, Sam Wilson should have remained Falcon. The Falcon code name was part of his original comic book identity and was played to perfection. Sam is a unique and beloved character and deserves to remain so. In my opinion, Bucky Barns should have been given the mantle of Captain America. He is LITERALLY cut from the same cloth as Steve Rogers. He was born at the same time period with the same miliary/heroic ideals and gone through similar superhuman processes giving both he and Steve superpowers. Although his stint as the Winter Soldier (WS) was a dark period in his journey, being the new Cap would have been a good way to atone for his WS sins and make amends to humanity for his past actions.
Well said! You voiced the complexities of the issue very well. Nostalgia has a culture unto itself. That culture won't change in one generation. Even if you cloned Steve Rogers and rebooted him as Captain America 2.0, it still would feel different to to audience. Sam has 0 chance on being viewed on the same page as Steve... not that he wants to, but from an audience perspective. Despite knowing this, we, as humans, still desire a continuation of something we loved, while knowing it's impossibility. Closure is hard for most humans. So we try to delay it, even at the expense of others' well being.
Falcon has a super power, he's smart and knows how to fix and development his wing suit. He may not be Stark levels of smart, but he's a soldier, has a flying suit, and practiced the Shield. He will never be Steve, but he can be Captain America, because the title is a title, and can be wielded by anyone, really.
I don't know how you tell the story of Sam Wilson without mentioning his time as Captain America. Being Cap has become a huge part of Sam's history in the comics. Sam is Marvel's first African American super hero. His role as Falcon is iconic. But he is a good Cap as well. So good, Steve personally asked Sam to wear the red white and blue alongside him.
@@BIGkearney falcon is not the first black hero in marvel...it was the king himself,the black panther.first appearance fantastic four using prep time way before even Batman did it.
@@wambokodavid7109 I never said Falcon was the first black hero in Marvel. I said Falcon was the first African American hero in Marvel History. Black Panther isn't American. Reading is fundamental.
There's nothing wrong with Sam as Cap. He wasn't just barking an order at the end of the show. He was showcasing his leadership while spitting facts. It didn't need to be a spectical, Steve would've had a similar speech. Secondly, Sam refused the injection because he doesn't need to be like Steve, he's already like him. He just does everything slower as Sam said it himself. I believe the issue is how his character will be handled by the writers, plus the back lash he's gotten isn't justified. Steve made the right call by giving Sam the shield. Even Bucky wanted Sam to have the Shield.
Please correct me if I' misunderstood, but it seems that NerdWord believes that only people with superpowers should be considered for the title "Captain America". And since Sam Wilson does not have super powers, then he should not be Captain America. Sam Wilson has considerable skills, but since those skills are not superpowers, then he is not qualified, according to NerdWord. I'm glad that Captain America was not limited to individuals with superpowers. I think that virtue and the ability to protect people, even if it's to a lesser extent than Rogers, is good enough criteria! And Sam Wilson - the New Captain America MEETS BOTH CRITERIA! That fact is unquestionable. I appreciate the video.
There's alot of videos prematurely pooping on this movie, and of course everyone is entitled to thier opinion. I'm excited and looking forward to the new Captain America movie and willl judge it for myself when i see it. The MCU is following the Comics, in which Sam Wilson is just as much Captain America when it was his time, as Steve Rogers was when it was his time. Steve Rogers himself deemed Sam Wilson worthy to be the next Captain America and so I'm looking forward to how this arc continues to unfolds. Just my two cents ✌️
For better or for worse, I have a feeling they'll brush by the power level by subtly increasing Sam's own power. He's not going to have to wrestle with the idea of taking the serum because his own abilities and tools with level him up. He'll have his vibranium suit + wings + Cap's shield, which means that his overall strength will be able to match up just under that of superpowered villains. Thus, whenever we question how a strong but ostensibly normal human could go toe to toe (or almost) with a supervillain, the answer will likely involve his suit. For all the problems that Marvel has had with Black Widow or Hawkeye, they have generally kept them grounded. I have a feeling this will not be the case with Sam.
Why r u comparing Sam to black widow or Hawkeye when he should be compared to black panther or iron man? Y’all want him to be street lvl so bad lmaooo Sam is no longer just a basic human with a few cool gadgets like Hawkeye or black widow. Hes in a full super suit power by vibranium and wakandan tech. Hes not meant to be grounded. The dude can take out missiles and planes with ease atp 😂😂😂
@@BrandontheAwesome I’m pretty sure this was the first comment I made. Why do u keep responding to my comments to say nothing of value? I got u so scared to debate u turned into a fan? Lil bro got a crush 😂😂😂
@@BrandontheAwesome why do u keep replying to me to not even talk abt the topic? I’ve already dismantled ur points lil bro. U don’t have to desperately fiend for my attention anymore 😂😂😂 you’ve been acknowledged lmaooo
He let TERRORISTS go because they were misunderstood. Not a friend that he knew for 70+ years that was impersonated by a terrorist. He just said "government bad do better" because some ginger girl was mad they couldn't magically have more money after a universal threat was righted. I barely liked his as Falcon and he's never gonna fill ocean deep shoes like Captain America's
People were dying from preventable diseases in the camps stablished by the council while the senators spent time talking amongst themselves. Comments like yours can only be Said by those who have never had to struggle in their lives.
Steve didn't know Bucky for 70+ years. Bucky and steve were frozen for most of that time. What do you want Sam to say? Steve gave "do better" speeches in winter soldier and civil war. Ginger girl or Karli wanted the people she cared for to be given vaccines, teachers, and supplies that they needed. Wouldn't you want your loved ones to have those too if they needed them? Why did you dislike him as falcon? Why will he never fill the ocean sized shoes for you?
The thing about power in a narrative sense, is that it is often intrinsically tied to level of respect of those who are presented it. For characters that are antagonists and anti-heroes, there is often a lack of respect of such power, as they often do not care where it came from (unknown sources, contracts/promises from dubious sources), and often feel that they deserve such power to accomplish what they want. It's how we got Red Skull and John Walker (USA Agent). For those who do respect power, they tend to often question if they even deserve such power, as they often times do not know how it will affect them in the long-term, and if they are capable of living up to the level of responsibility that will come with acquiring such power. So Sam refusing it because he is unsure of how it change him isn't a bad thing. In fact, his refusal of the new Super Soldier Serum, seeing how it has changed it's most recipients isn't something that should be seen as a negative, as Sam, like Steve, is shown questioning his government, as within his rights, and must have all the answers before making such a life-changing decision. Not every hero needs to pick up the Holy Sword to finish the journey. Will the journey be more difficult without it? Sure. But to quote Syndrome fom The Incredibles, "When everyone's Super, then nobody is." Besides, his suit and shield has supposedly received various upgrades since Falcon and The Winter Soldier, so we'll see how he does without it.
The great thing about Sam Wilson is that he’s an ordinary person. He is not super intelligent or strong or wealthy, he’s just a guy. I like that and it makes him relatable. Also it’s great that he’s an African American because there aren’t many black superhero’s.
@kaybigg All of the Avengers movies had multiple reshoots. Spiderman Homecoming had multiple reshoots. Civil War multiple reshoots. They all have multiple reshoots. I'd be more worried if they did no reshoots.
you are 100% correct. this is what I've believed for a very long time. Falcon is great, and with a serum to take him from good to great. without it, he's a sub-capable good guy, not a hero. Sam seems to have a chip on his shoulder, which is disqualifying for SuperHero and don't forget the Steve/Bucky/Tony issue was highly contrived. not the story, that was great...but the massive gap in narrative that Steve knew bucky killed Tony's parents...that came out of left field so hard it took me completely out of the movie. if he knew, he would have told tony, he would have asked him for help for his friend, he would have worked with Tony to take down who was behind reprogramming Bucky to kill Tony's parents. heroes don't avoid uncomfortable conversations, and Steve is a hero.
Seriously, you guys want the man who assassinated JFK, The Starks and other important figures to become Captain America, the public wouldn't stand for it, especially if John Walker(US Agent) got demoted for beheading a Flag Smasher, then Bucky would never get that role, maybe in the future someone maybe desperate and crazy enough to have him be the man, but until that day the moniker and role of Captain America is safe with Sam. Hey who knows he may retire and be the one to pass it on to Bucky, after he's put in some redemption work and gains positive public fame. But anyways I'm gonna watch the movie and enjoy it for what it's worth!
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Sam is the best choice to replace Steve. by process of elimination, we only have three choices: Bucky, John walker and Sam. Bucky just got pardoned and still has nightmares from his past life, so he's unstable. John walker has anger issue, a burning desire to prove his worth and is a rookie, i don't see a rookie being the leader of the avenger. And then Sam, a guy who has same ideals as Steve, the only difference is the serum. Mind you, not having the serum is the interesting part of Cap Sam because it gives more room on his power-ups... Also, Steve promoted U.S. Commando, while Sam will promote U.S. Air Force... The transition is beautiful to me.
I completely agree with your assessment of Steve and Sam. Sam is Falcon, not Captain America. They should have introduced a new character to take on the role of Captain America, someone who isn't already a superhero. It's hard to believe that Steve Rogers was the only one willing to serve his country. They could have brought in a new character who receives the Super Soldier Serum, driven by patriotism and a desire to do what's right, even if it meant risking death like Steve did. Perhaps this new character could have been inspired by Steve, aiming to make a difference in his honor. Maybe this person gets the serum in an attempt to save his life and then commits to living up to Steve's legacy. That's what I would have done.
I agree, alot of these people who have problems with Sam being Cap, have not invested time in the Marvel comic story line. Just as Jane Foster being Thor. We are being treated to a long existing timeliness from our reading media. So you are either a long time fan of the rich history of Marvel, or your a fan of the flims drawing you in for the first. I think that if you have issues with roles being handed over to individuals you have doubts about. Maybe you should spend a little time finding out the history from Marvel, and if the characters were pre-planned to take up the role to begin with.
No thanks. Captain America and Avengers were always the poorest written comics. X-Men was always vastly superior in characters, plot and depth. Besides, comic accurate does not translate as a good movie. This was political, it was clumsy and stupid. Easily predicted as an epic fail.
@@goldenmetalrat60 Movies sometimes DO make me want to read the comics. They generally have more time to develop. But the whole Jane Foster thing was so poorly done in the films, it was painful. Same with Sam. Those two characters were so one dimensional it was a travesty.
Dwayne McDuffie spoke about this very thing...why is it cool when Batman fights Superman and can dodge Darkseid's omega beams but Sam a human with no powers as well it's seen as impossible. I think him being a human defying the odds is what makes Sam Wilson as Cap work for me.
WHO IS THIS VIDEO FOR? Sam Wilson became Captain America in Marvel Comics BACK in 2015, wearing the same outfit that we see now have in the MCU version. And he is STILL one of two active Captain America's in the comics today, and is the one presently IN THE AVENGERS. As for the movie, it hasn't come out yet. And the Disney series did a great job of showing that Sam Wilson didn't want to be Captain America at first because he didn't feel worthy. Again, WHO IS THIS VIDEO FOR?
@@BrandontheAwesome you mean normies. Folks that read comics already have these answers. So his question who is this video for is a legit question cause shouldn't everyone that claim to be fans of the MCU at least checked out some comics? So I believe this video is for folks with no comic sense.
Yes, Sam does become Captain America in the comics and then Bucky becomes Captain America. Sam's tenure and Bucky's time as Captain America should be a story arc.
Excuse me......But do ("Batman")has.- super-strength?) cause if not mistaking that "Dude" is regular fucking human, with "Technology" & bunch of "Gadgets", maybe a Armor-Suit", here &; There, But as fans" we believe , how he be "Beating" all these ("Over powered") villains on regular basis, Now its (Sam wilison) in the same - situation as ("Bruce wayne"), buts. Its not believable, Get the fuck out of here!!) sam got "Tech" & Gadgets, just like ("Batman") aint no-fucking "Difference!!
You're right! I suspect the double standard is partly because Batman is a more popular character because he was published since 1938, while the Falcon was published in the 1970s as a Blaxploitation character and sidekick. The other reason is probably racism.
@darlalathan6143 / I don't give fuck about, who came 1st in the "comics, all I was saying, is (Sam Wilson) & ("Bruce Wayne") is regular humans, with "Technology", neither one of them has "Super strength", they use there "Wit" & there "Technology") that's it & that's all!!
I don't agree. I think Sam is a growing character like any of the other heroes. Just because he's Captain America doesn't mean he has to now be perfect or always make the right call. Because even Steve didn't. Sam was worried that the power of the serum might change him because he saw what happens when you give power to the wrong person (John Walker). But I think the lesson he's in the process of learning is that it isn't about the power, its about the man. So I think (and hope) that he will take the serum in his upcoming movie. Especially since he's going up against a Hulk and he quite frankly needs it. Idc that those wings are adamantium/vibranium. It's a hulk.
Sam as Captain falcon, is amazing comic setup,what i love about Sam's character the most, is the fact that he is willing to take on more and more challenges including facing Red hulk which i wouldn't dare to do so plus without a super soldier serum, Sam wanted to face his challenges as a natural captain America which makes him a very unique character as captain America
It's funny how not having powers or enhanced abilities and using tech and ingenuity to fight other super powered beings was never an issue when people were watching Iron Man, War Machine, Hawkeye or Ant-Man do their thing. But when it comes to Sam Wilson who just so happens to have a suit of made of vibranium, courtesy of the Wakandans, it's a major issue and suddenly makes no sense at all. I mean did literally everyone forget what vibranium can do?
@@BrandontheAwesome There's actually more than one Captain America. Steve Rogers, Bucky Barnes, Sam Wilson, John Walker, Isaiah Bradley. With Cap's shield as your profile pic I'd assume you'd have known that. Nice try though🥱😉
The biggest issues I see are twofold: 1. Sam is already a “good man” but ultimately that makes him very dull and flat as a character. He has no real potential for growth and that fear of taking power sounds more like a lack of desire for responsibility he probably knows he can’t handle. Sam isn’t a leader. He never was and never will be. No one follows him. He can’t be inspiring because he’s just not. This means that narratively the story has no where to go. Or worse he becomes a passenger in his own movie. 2. Disney is all about discouraging those that have power from using it because they do t want ANYONE getting any ideas about changing the status quo. They are the representation of the greatest evil on the planet: incompetent greed. They can’t criticize those in power because those are their sycophants, money makers and protection. Those modern “heroes” are framed as good because they keep those in power in power. Sam’s speech to “do better” is basically saying “let those in charge figure out a better solution while the common people and those with superpowers wait and cater to them”. Sam isn’t grayer. He’s just less than Steve in every way. Bucky would’ve been the better choice.
I feel like you misunderstood the speech at the end of the F&WS. If you look at the story as a whole, the speech made perfect sense. The point was the Flag Smashers wouldn't have existed if the governments didn't kick people out of the homes they had been living in, and found a better way to deal with the situation. They basically said f those people, and someone (Agent 13) took advantage of that. So, yeah. The speech was actually good. I feel like the people who hate on it are just doing it because Sam isn't Steve. Not saying you did that, but mostly. And just to be extra clear, he was NOT siding with the terrorists. He understood what they were fighting for, and tried to help them find a better way. Their fight wasn't necessarily bad. They just kept getting f'd over by the government. So, like I said, speech made sense.
I think your getting it wrong. It's yet another scene that builds up Steve as a man. Sam is pretty much saying that though Steve was not corrupted by the power he can't be sure he has the fortitude to not be corrupted himself. I think it's ironic, because in the Winter Soldier they set him up to be just as virtuous as Steve.
I actually agree with a lot of, this but I also have to admit watching him as a Captain America without the serum and seeing how he operates is also compelling.
He's not a Super Soldier for one. He's like 5'10" 175. He cant duke it out with dudes like Batrok. Bucky is clearly a better choice from any angle. Except color. Why that matters is why most people dont care about Marvel anymore.
In the reality of the mcu, it wouldn’t make sense if the mantle of Captain America was given to a former nazi assassin. And yes Steve Roger was a super soldier, but his REAL strength is being able inspire others, encourage people into doing the right thing and to lift spirits even in the darkest of times. Cap is far from being the strongest avengers; most of them can obliterate him within seconds. Yet the avengers still choose to follow him, not because he fights pretty good, but because they see something in him, the same thing Steve saw in Sam. Also, I just wanted to point out that the way you talked about Sam just now is pretty similar in the way how Agent K talked about Steve pre serum in the first avenger.💀
@@danielleiva2670ur using too much logic. They don’t understand that caps entire role in the mcu is that he isn’t the strongest but he more than makes up for that with his willpower. Plus if they even cared to watch falcon and the winter soldier falcons super suit puts him on super soldier lvl at least. Dude literally caught a truck with his suit and took no damage from a helicopter falling on him. I could make a genuine argument he beats every super soldier on screen.
So you want a man fresh off hydra mind control, a confirmed killer, and he spent god knows how long in Wakanda to be Cap? You do know the U.S. and Wakanda aren't on the best of terms right? BP2 pretty much confirmed that.
I struggled a bit making this video because I almost felt like I was being disloyal. I really like Sam, he's one of the reasons that phase 2 and 3 of the MCU were so good. I loved his dynamic with Steve and Nat and Bucky and I wanted to see more of it. I desperately want to know what the team got up to in the two years they were on the run/stationed in Wakanda. I feel kind of robbed because we didn't see it. That would have been a really neat tv show or even just its own separate films.
Additionally, if we wanted to see more Steve, the entire five years of "the blip" should have been its own phase on its own. I wish that avenue had been explored. And now, unless there is some sort of a hard reboot which I'm not sure if I'm in favour of, we'll never see it. Of course Chris Evans is totally disconnected from the MCU right now, but I would wholeheartedly take him back if we could.
Anyway, something I didn't talk about much in this video is Sam's suit. I'm mean, its glaringly obvious that his head isn't covered and he doesn't have the super soldier serum to protect it when he takes a direct hit. The vibranium shield and wings might stop a missile, but they certainly aren't going to protect Sam from the sheer force that a hit like that should generate. They are having him do stunts that we're accustomed to seeing from super soldiers and Sam just isn't one.
*Edit* I AM FULLY AWARE THAT SAM WAS CAP IN THE COMICS. However from what I understand the sales of those comics weren't very high because they weren't as well liked. So if it wasn't profitable or liked in the comics, why is it being done here?
Sam was chosen solely by DEI
GREAT NERDWORD AND THE PROBLEM WITH SAM WILLIAMS
That’s the thing. As they have already shown in the D+ show, the story will have him be just as strong and impervious as he needs to be when the plot demands, so the whole “he refused power when offered” will itself be a red herring. They will make him play the full part of a superhero even if he’s not technically supposed to be one. Like Natasha in her solo outing.
Yes, it would be nice if choices and actions had consequences.
Don't feel bad, it's just who you are! White people like you love to complain, especially about fictional stuff that has no bearing in the real world! People in the real world are losing their lives, and this is what you want to focus on!
Good analysis.
What I wanted to see was a team-up between Cap and Falcon, like in the comics (at least for a while) and focused on their friendship and teamwork. Cap represented the Army, Falcon the Air Force, and they worked together to get things done. Also, Sam is his own man, he doesn't need Cap's title nor shield to give him some sort of validation; it's kind of insulting, really.
Why are we acting like Sam wasn't captain America in the comics? It's not like Marvel just made Sam captain America out of nowhere.
He did become Captain America in the comics.
He’s been cap in comics for over a decade
Bucky was supposed to take over as Cap.
@@RustyX2010where did u get this from?
"Falcon and the Winter Soldier" is very invested in this idea that Steve is the only one with incorruptible "morals" but....Bucky was never corrupted by the serum, Bucky was brainwashed by Hydra.
I think we all know why Sam was picked as the replacement over Bucky.
@@studebricker2845Because Bucky was dead for 80 years in the comics, Sam is Steve's best friend, and Sam has years more combat experience, training, and experience as a leader than Bucky ever did in either the comics or the movies.
@@MrBazBake Bucky fought in WWII alongside Cap, and held the same beliefs and values Steve did.
@@MrBazBake That's funny because Steve also had no experience when he became Cap, yet he was able to defeat Hydra/Red Skull. Pretty sure his super soldier serum had something to do with that.
So yah, Bucky should have been the new Cap. It just makes sense, since they were best friends and all...
@@studebricker2845 the killer of the Starks the new Cap. Damn yall hate Tony. LMAO. Hell no. Why give a terrorist the shield? Steve isn't crazy you folks are clearly nuts. Let me guess Hitle should be Cap as well right? I'm sure you would make an argument on how Red Skull should be Cap instead of Sam. Hold this L my guy.
The problem is the writers don't seem to grasp Sam is just a dude in a suit, he isn't a super soldier, that was an important part of Steve's character and skill set.
Hell just wielding the shield would be borderline impossible for Sam as even if the thing only weighs like 5 pounds, throwing and catching that thing constantly in battle will reduce your arm to a limp noodle in minutes due to the extreme strain on a persons's muscles.
Steve avoid that due to the Serum essentially preventing muscle fatigue as well as greatly enhanced strength
That was a good point.
It is physically impossible for anyone to do what is done with the Captain America shield. Even if you have super strength. It is not rubber. How does it bounce? It's crazy how people suddenly get their physics degree when a black man is the superhero.
@@joelhenry5489 shield is made of vibranium, that weird metal that can store kinetic energy and release it...and has a lot of other properties too.
@@PandaPanda-ud4ne Did yall even watch falcon and the winter soldier? That’s not just any suit. It’s made of vibraium. Sam has literally lifted a truck with his suit and tanked a heliport falling on him with no damage. He is easily just as strong if not stronger than cap.
Natasha is just a woman in a suit, so is Hawkeye, so is Iron Man.
There's only one difference, and everyone can see what that is.
If you're having trouble seeing this, let me know, and I'll explain it to like i would a 5 year old.
Sam Wilson: You're going after him.
Steve Rogers: You don't have to come...
Sam Wilson: I know. When do we start?
That is character. Power.
I wouldn't give Sam extra points for the "when we start"... Sam literally had nothing else to do, but for example, Hawkeye does the same thing, he's going to fight for what's right and he has a family to lose, and in fact he loses his family at one point, luckily he got them back even though he still loses his best friend in Natasha, when Steve meets Sam he had nothing to lose, no family, no girdfriend, and apparently he didn't even have friends, i would have thought that he hav friends in his "former air combat unit", but that was never talked about.
@@mcruz4571 The unit all died
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@@mcruz4571 There is not point to talking about Sam's life when it would have messed up the pacing of the story. Sam has friends and likely female friends as he has been known to have dated some of the more powerful heroes.
If that cheesy line impresses you, you must be why Marvel is dead.
Your commentary is interesting, but it ignores a key plot point from the first Cap movie. The super soldier serum doesn't simply provide a physical boost. It serves as an amplifier that dials up behavioural traits that already exist. The whole reason Steve Rogers was selected was his mental and emotional attributes, not his combat skills. The reason subject selection was so important was so that they did NOT end up with Red Skull or John Walker.
It's possible that Sam Wilson didn't have any emotional baggage and that the serum wouldn't adversely impact him, but it's equally possible that it could. All the caution and discretion displayed in the first movie to find the RIGHT test subject went out the window after that. Everybody seemingly forgot that the side effect of the serum was that it could turn you into a super-powered rage monster, and they started talking about handing out the serum like candy on Halloween.
I agree with everything you said about the new generation of Marvel heroes, and that Sam Wilson without super powers simply can't be Captain America as most people envision the character.... but in canon, Sam's decision to reject the serum and his fear of how it might "corrupt" him are rational. The serum DOES amplify your strongest instincts whether that is to help people, protect the innocent, punish evil or control the world.
Sam isn't rejecting power because of some misled view that power is evil. Sam is rejecting the very REAL possibility that embracing that particular kind of power may mean altering his personality in a way he may not like... and for THAT reason, his decision makes sense, even if it means there will never be another Cap.
Well reasoned. It might be that that is how the super soldier serum works in the MCU as it holds together well across all super soldiers. Bucky was first shown in his army uniform and was a commando while human and became the winter soldier who is maybe the only match for cap. Red Guardian might have had a sense of humor and become even more jovial and sentimental after the serum.
The super soldier's Zemo executed in Wintr Soldier would have been selected from the most hardcore and brutal KGB and so were absolute souless psycho's.
The guys in Falcon and the Winter soldier were activists and after the serum became international terrorists over squatter's rights.
Even the star flower from Black Panther might qualify as T'Challa became even more noble and diplomatic and Shuri more brave and resourceful and Killmonger even more determined and vengeful.
I think you are right.
Wow! I was going to comment on this commentary, BUT you said it all! You’re right. I too think Sam is afraid the serum may peak something negative inside him. Once you take it there’s no turning back. I would like to think it preserves Cap in a very respectful way….as the ONLY true Captain America. Thanks for your insightful comment.
So does that mean Bucky can wield mjolnir?
Sam with the super soldier serum would be an enhanced/perfect n*gga.
What an oxymoron.
Not to mention the knowledge he has of the death of all the experimental black patients. Isaiah Bradley was the only survivor. And he was treated horribly…
Bucky & Steve's relationship goes deep. They were practically family. Steve defending him makes sense to me.
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The "you've gotta do better Senator" its one of the funniest cringiest memes of the MCU for me, its so bad that everytime anyone brings that up i die laughing
That speech was terrible because it went around in circles trying to say something but ended up saying nothing.
What exactly was Sam trying to say? That the politicians should embrace the Flag smashers ideology of a world without borders? That they should just create wealth & property out of nothing to recompense the newly restored victims of the Blip? Those are genuinely complex issues that have no clear cut solutions to them.
I'm trying to understand why everybody hates that scene? I'm out of the loop.
@ Because he doesn’t exactly say what the politicians should do to fix the situation.
Marvel knew that the problem of how to rehabilitate the billions of people who came back to find their old homes & property taken away was a complex minefield so they didn’t let Sam actually take a side on the issue.
But for a character like Sam that’s cowardly to just say “do better” without actually saying what they should do.
@@loverboyjmac its a weird scene, Sam treats the politicians as if they were the ones in the wrong but at the same time treats the literal terrorist leader that has killed people like a reasonable person that had to do it for justifiable reasons, hell he even arrives like a heavenly figure to the place with Carlys body like he is this heavenly figure that has forgiven the ones that dont follow and then the speech goes off and welp.... it sucks too, hope that my pov helps
During that scene I'm imagining Sam talking to Ted Cruz like that lol. Yeah that'd work. Also completely unbelievable that the government would be so quick to fess up about what they did to Isaiah, and build a huge tribute to him. It started out strong and had a very childish simplistic ending.
One, no super power. Two trying to be somebody else. He should be Falcon, not Capt America.
Rumor is Anthony Mackie agrees with you, he wanted Sam to stay as the Falcon.
@@PFiction24 Rumor, good if true.
The thing is Sam isn't trying to be someone else. He is still Sam. What happens is that Sam holds the same values as Steve. That's why Steve chose him to be the New Captain América.
And let's not forget this was an actual storyline in the comics in the... 70's?
The difference is of course Steve Rogers returned to be Cap in the comics.
But yes. Sam Wilson is the Falcon and a darn good one.
@@Akkatlah How much can values bench? smh
Steve didn’t side with a terrorist (winter soldier) , he believed in a childhood friend and another good man (Bucky). Sam’s character hasn’t shown a similar show of heart or faith under pressure.
go watch the films again.
Sam Wilson is the best Falcon. His bond-like gadgetry was cool touch. That being said, he doesn't have the same presence as Steve Rogers. He feels like a hero trying to be a different hero. It didn't really work out in the comics either. It was a sign that the golden age of comics was dying.
Sam Wilson is Falcon just like Miles Morales is Miles Morales.
Or is he like Rhodey? Perhaps he's more like Blade. Surely you meant Power Man?
Miles Morales is still Spider-Man, just an alternate world version. Sam Wilson is different but still Captain America. Just give him the Super Soldier Serum and call it a day!
Should have been Bucky. That Bucky Cap run is great. Had lots of potential for a onscreen adaptation
I feel like I’m the only one who thinks they both could’ve been cap. Imo that would’ve been cool to see. 2 active caps both bffs with the original carrying on his mantle.
@@kingmanga8575 That could have worked too
bucky in mcu is a killer....imagine making a known assassin into americas symbol.yeah, not a great plan
And Sam isn't? Lol
@@bartoniuskrunk2366 he was not an assissan. Big difference in soldier and assissan.
The idea behind the serum is giving power revealed someone's true character. Steve remained a good man. Even with Peter Parker (spider bite, not serum), he became cocky at first. But then he learned "with great power..."
It is weird that Sam (and the writers) forgot what made Steve Rogers special.
Just about every superhero that's written goes through a humbling experience that makes them relatable and it's their reaction to it that makes them a hero or not. The difference was Steve was already humbled before he got the serum. He was undersized and grew up with a number of health issues. Spiderman was humbled with his uncle's/aunt's/MJ's death (depending on which universe). John Walker struggled because he had spent so much time before the serum being a strong success at everything he did. Captain Marvel is difficult to relate to because her humbling experience doesn't seem as personal. It was more about man keeping women caged, let me out, hear me roar and is quite played out. She-Hulk never really seemed like she was humbled at all on a personal level and tried to paint all sorts of sleights against women in general as her humbling experience and proceeded to be a know-it-all which no one cares for. It's why no one really cares for that character and the actress even more.
Steve was special, but the new serum corrupted even good people. Sam never tried to be Steve, he simply follows his morals of giving people a chance
Steve got cocky like Peter Parker, too, in Captain America: The First Avenger. People seem to forget that happened.
It wasn't the serum I can tell you that much
@@MRF1983 What I remember is that Steve was basically used as a cheerleader or propaganda tool by the government instead of being sent to war. That changed when he went on a rogue rescue mission to save Bucky. Maybe there was a part where Steve got cocky somewhere. I'd have to rewatch.
I agree that sam is a great falcon. That's who he should have stayed.
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You're right BUT, Cap passed the torch
Why?
And Sam rejected it, and then got jealous when someone else had it
@@Mrmumps-tb4no no he didn't got jealous stupid
For me, its simply Falcon isn't as interesting as Bucky
I agree. Sam as Falcon was already a great thing. He had the world's respect as Falcon. Him taking over as Cap feels unnecessary, or at least how Marvel is playing it. Bucky has a far more interesting character arc with a greater tie to Steve Rogers.
Why
Facts. The whole set on ice for 70 years wouldn't work with Sam, because well racism LOL... But yeah, Roger's story is awesome!
Bucky is interesting to me when he refuses the shield in the comics he even gives it back I prefer the story highlighting how different bucky is to steve because of what he went thru and that's both a strength and a weakness steve and sam are more hopeful and idealistic while bucky is more of a realistic person.
Bucky is frustratingly boring
Steve's actions to protect bucky was due to his knowledge that bucky was under mind control and therefore innocent of his crimes.
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@@Nomad-Rogers, Steve was an egomaniac who believed he knew better than everyone else. The countries of the world adopt a treaty, a treaty his democratically elected approved, and he gave himself the “right” to ignore international law, U.S. law, and the laws of all countries he operated in and he assaulted law officers. How is that not just pure criminality. It is mitigated by his intentions, but Bucky’s brainwashing doesn’t absolve him.
@Bujbrother Wow, you really don't understand Captain America, do ya?
@@BrandontheAwesome "it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer" -Benjamin Franklin. Yes he also did it to protect the one man that protected him when he was a small guy in Brooklyn and that he loved like a brother, however he knew that was not Bucky and he was being mind contoled. Bucky and the Winter Soldier share the same body but are 2 different people.
Stop tripping. Bucky was a murderer.
Captain America is *ALL* about being a Good Man, not a perfect soldier.
It’s about both 😊
I have said this before in other comment sections, and I'll say it again here. Bucky should have been given the shield instead of Sam. Bucky knows Steve's character better than anyone else in the entire MCU. He knows why Steve is the perfect man to be Captain America. He knows he isn't worthy. Donning the mantle of Captain America would have been an act of contrition for him, penance for his actions as the Winter Soldier. What's more, Steve knows who Bucky really at his core. They could have also had Bucky use the shield defensively, never throwing it offensively like Steve did, in a way to highlight the inner struggles of how much Bucky holds on to the memories of his only real friend and that the shield is a symbol he knows he can never live up to. They could explore Bucky being more violent than Steve but trying to be a better man despite his own flaws. It would have added a stark comparison to the man that Steve was instead of the less noble, but not really flawed Sam Wilson in the MCU.
Both the first Captain America movies and second Captain America movie literally foreshadow Bucky becoming Captain America when he picks up his sheild.
The thing is Bucky was Captain America in the comics before Sam Wilson. But they decided to just make Sam Wilson Captain America because it was a newer comics during when Endgame came out.
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This isn't true Sam has worked with Steve longer than Bucky
Difficult to say. Honestly, Bucky is kind of a war criminal ... They touched upon that in the show I think, but it would have been weird for him to suddenly become the symbol of peace imo 😅
@ Black Widow was brainwashed assassin as well but nobody complains about her breaking away from being brainwashed and being an assassin and instead becoming a superhero.
Yet people have a problem Bucky doing the same.
Here's one of the reasons I love Captain America, and will never really accept anyone but Steve Rogers behind the shield: his fictitious story helped shape a real one.
Most people don't know or understand that the Scouting movement has its own awards system for valor, and Scouting has its own Audie Murphy/Smedley Butler. His name is George Oldroyd and he was my Scoutmaster.
George was a disabled kid who was later partially paralyzed after he broke his back in a car wreck, and then taught himself to walk again using titanium-hinged braces on his legs and feeling for the sensation of the ground underfoot in his knees. And yet, even though he was already the most-decorated Scout lifesaver in history when that happened, no one had heard about him because he never worked the kind of PR magic that makes people famous.
He went on to receive two Honor Medals after his accident, both for fighting dangerous fires with the prospect for an explosion, and the last one in front of a nursing home. He was so gravely injured that he lost a leg and nearly went blind, which is horrifying since, as a pituitary giant, he is already going deaf.
For that one he received the Honor Medal with Crossed Palms, the highest award made by the B.S.A. National Court of Honor for valor, as well as receiving a bar for his Bronze Cross for Gallantry from the B-P Scout Movement in the U.K. He had already received it one other time, but that makes him the only one to receive the Honor Medal twice since it was first constituted in 1923, and the only one to receive the top valor award from Scouting in two different countries.
If you ask him who his early insirations were, he'll tell you about Captain America, Batman, Luke Skywalker, and his firefighter father.
But as an Eagle Scout he always loves Captain America. He has a proud jingoistic streak and makes no apologies for flying the Betsy Ross flag in front of his home, or for wearing it on his uniform.
Cap matters. Steve Rogers example matters. Without it, the sheer tonnage of lives that might not have been spared because George Oldroyd didn't stick his neck out to save them is unknowable.
How many others took similar inspiration?
George Bailley from It's a Wonderful Life, The Bishop from Les Mis, and Booster Gold from Volume Two. My favorite art is that which inspires us to be better people.
I started reading Captain America in 1976 and my most prized toys were Mego Captain America and Falcon. Like my father, he fought in WWII. The Invaders were a favorite title of mine and I saw them use the "new Cap" trope. Spirit of '76, Patriot, John Walker, Bucky, and Falcon. It always returns to Steve Rogers. That's what made the Hydra Cap so ridiculous, is that Steve Rogers is incorruptible. Captain America is Steve Rogers, not because he was first, but because he WAS Captain America, even before he got the serum.
“The role of Captain America was the only one not handed to a woman”
But we have seen female Captain America in the form of Peggy. In fact Peggy has seen more appearances as Captain America is than Sam
Misty Knight was Captain America for a while as well
@@Forteoverload Don't remind us.
@@Sjono And she was just as terrible.
I agree 100%. The Sam Wilson character had a lot of potential as Falcon, but as Cap Sam Wilson was non-existent. when his film releases there will be a 4 year gap since the audience has seen him, why didn't he make appearances in other MCU shows and movies, especially if he is supposed to be one of the leaders of the Avengers? It feels like he is being thrown in because of their poor decision making with a certain character 2 years ago?
plesae rewatch the films again and take notes this time. Steve and THE ENTIRE MCU explained why Sam was choosing and not Bucky.
Narratively I admit Sam earned the shield Old Man Rogers gave him. However, I wonder if Endgame's ending was natural instead of manufactured for a pre-approved conclusion if Steve Rogers, as Bucky's best friend, would've saw that Bucky needed the shield.
Decades prior Bucky was physically holding Captain America's shield in his hands until a Hydra henchman blasted him out of Hydra's train and away from the shield. He's held onto the shield multiple times afterwards but every time since WWII, using the shield defensively, he's wielded the shield as a weapon. Bucky as the Winter Soldier used offensive weapons for each appearance following his last scene within Captain America The First Avenger. Arm included. As of this moment, for the foreseeable future, he will evidently continue packing an arsenal of weapons. I don't believe this future is ideal.
Bucky's entire future was derailed from the moment he picked up Captain America's shield for the first time but it was neither his nor the shield's fault.
If Captain America gave his shield to Bucky, this act could've begun a transformative journey clearly missing from the MCU now. I keep hearing how Sam Wilson is already the perfect person for Captain America. Which is true since he's a static character whose remained the same throughout his appearances until Falcon and the Winter Soldier. That's why I believe there's more of a story in handing the shield over to someone who would immediately confess he's not a good man if offered the shield. I hear explanations revolving around how Bucky's currently unworthy when each phase 1 superhero experienced a similar character story arc before transforming into heroes. Sam's hesitancy was, in continuity, unfounded during Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Sam Wilson would've tried as he promised immediately upon accepting Captain America's new shield. That's why I believe he earned that shield while Bucky needed the broken original. The same shield Captain America carried is the one which belonged to Bucky and once repaired two Captain Americas could taken Steve Roger's place.
I agree. Bucky should have been the next captain America. It would have been the perfect redemption journey for him.
Then, "The Falcoln and the Winter Soldier" should have followed the Civil War comic and made both Bucky and Sam Captain Americas, on Super Soldier Serums.
@@BloodBoiling oh hell no. Bucky being Cap wouldn't make sense based on the MCU storylines. He has too much red on his record like Natasha.
@@gohanson27 That's why it would make it great redemption story. A man haunted by crimes of his past that he had no control of. Upon taking on the mantle, learning how to forgive himself, not let his past define who he is, regaining the public's trust as a hero with a controversial past, and honor his best friends legacy.
It's a wish fulfilment story for fans but a former enemy agent who had assassinated an American president could never have been Captain America. HYDRA would leak the information in a heartbeat and destroy his as a symbol of the American way. It had to be Sam.
They didn't want to give it to Bucky because he's a white guy. There, I said it.
He was also a Hydra asset and killed a bunch of people. Idk how the public would accept him. They should’ve just built up Sam’s character better if they were going to have him replace Steve. Instead he was snapped by Thanos and gone for almost all of Endgame. Could’ve kept him and developed him more instead of shoehorning him in as the new cap at the end of the movie
@Ray03595 Bucky reconciling his past and trauma with being the new Cap should have been several seasons of plot in the Falcon and the Winter Soldier imho. Sam would have been the perfect partner to help Bucky work through his stuff. Oh well.
Now, Anthony has come out and said that his suit gives him superhuman abilities. So now it makes the idea of him rejecting the serum completely meaningless. He now has a suit that does the exact same thing for him. They just have no idea what they're doing over at marvel.
Around 7:30, you make the astute observation that the recent marvel movies seem to portray power gained by women is wielded virtuously, whereas power whelmed by men is at best ambiguous.
I think that's a very perceptive read on the subtext of the films. I haven't seen several of them, so maybe it's said more explicitly by the films themselves, but I'm still impressed you put that together.
I'm thankful for your channel. You've always got a perspective that I feel better for having heard through.
What do you mean? Black widow had no external power wielded by a woman. Just regular Natasha. No super powers
Wanda's power in Wandavision is viewed as the literal start of her 2nd villain origin. she or rather her fired is the villain.
Walker is redeemed while Karli who had the super soldier is irredeemable in FATWS.
He Who Remains is a man who is the villain with super powers in Loki.
In Shang Chi when the main character gets the 10 rings super powers it's viewed as virtuous
In Eternals it's only when all of them including the white heterosexual man Ikaris uses their power together do they use it virtuously
In NWH the MCU peter is given great power virtuously wielding it to help others at his own expense.
I can name 2022, 2023, and 2024 MCU projects if you want but that's just not true that women get powers and use them for good while men get powers and use them for bad in the MCU.
@@Thed538dhsk It's curious that you seem to have an encyclopedic knowledge of these Disney movies, but you overlooked me plainly stating "I haven't seen several of them."
The fact of the matter is, I have as much desire to watch and internalize these comic movies as I have to engage with random weirdos online.
If you aren't being paid to white knight for Disney, I strongly encourage you to reconsider how you're spending your life. This is a lonely path you're taking.
You may have the last word, but know that I won't read it. Your response is as trivial as these Disney movies are. Have a good life.
@@Thed538dhsk That isnt what he said. He said, that men were portrayed as being unworthy/misplaced as wielders of power, while women were always lauded or applauded as wielders of power. This is not them using it for good or bad, but deeper: It is about getting power and how this is portrayed. In Western Culture we have come to a point, where weakness and powerlessness of men are applauded and desired, while strength and power of women is applauded and desired. Again: It is not about who does what with the power they are given, but how they are portrayed when power is given to them.
@@PandaPanda-ud4ne Bless your heart, Panda. You're a better person than I am.
Have a good Thanksgiving. People like you make the world a better place to be in, realtalk.
@@math925 Thanks! You too, man, enjoy your turkey!
The thesis that the simple fact of having greater amount of power than those around you automatically corrupts is entirely refuted by the very existence of Steve Rogers. This causes Sam Wilson's ascension into Captain America to be built on a self-contradictory paradox
Bucky too, because he was never technically "corrupted" by the serum either. He was literally just brainwashed by Hydra. He had the same beliefs and ideals as Steve and was the man's best friend from the same time period - and there's nothing about the serum having any corrupting effects on Bucky at all after that Hydra brainwashing crap was removed from him. The show just completely glosses over this lol
5:50 - I agree with you. It's like Jordan Peterson says: You should be a monster, an absolute monster, and then you should learn how to control it. It's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war. If you are not a formidable force, there’s no morality in your self-control. If you are incapable of violence, not being violent isn’t a virtue.
Steve Rogers was capable of great violence. And he wasn't naive; he knew it. And then ... he made his choices with compassion.
The irony here is that all of the hero's have to come to terms with the power they are given vs who they are as people, or who they want to be. Sam refusing the serum doesn't make sense on any level, but it especially doesn't make sense in the context of the MCU.
Tony - motivated by self interest BECOMES a hero as a result of his actions hurting others.
Banner - motivated by self interest BECOMES a hero as the result of his actions being a danger to others.
Thor - motivated by self interest BECOMES a hero as a result of his actions causing harm to others.
Steve - motivated by self interest BECOMES a hero as a result of his ego and not being willing to accept his weaknesses.
Black Widow, Gamora, Peter Quill, etc... All of these characters BECOME hero's despite their failings, and it is their ability to overcome those flaws that make them heroic. Sam disregarding the serum, which is a part of being Captain America come's across as self righteous and ultimately makes him less suited for that specific role. It does not make him any less heroic. Just less suited to be Captain America, who is tasked with doing the things that others can't and remaining heroic regardless of the temptation.
It started with Black Panther, and carried on until present day, where they stopped making characters compelling because of their flaws, only to have them overcome them and become inspirational.
Bravo. I am impressed that you speak like someone who has something thoughtful to say & not just someone trying to crank out another video to post on yootoobe. I listened with genuine interest because I wanted to hear your point of view, your opinion & that is sadly rare on most YT videos. Very well done. It made me excited to listen to your other videos so please keep up what you are doing, never doubt that you do have genuine fans.
I loved Falcon in everything...until Falcon and The Winter Soldier. I went into that show excited because of how much I loved this corner of the MCU. I loved Steve, I loved Sam, I loved Bucky. I was curious to see how they moved things forward. That show was such a gut punch of disappointment. I don't know what I was expecting, but I was expecting that whatever they did was going to be a whole lot better than what we got
Yea the argument has a couple fallacies, Sam not taking the serum doesn’t mean Steve Rogers isn’t a good man or virtuous. It’s like you being someone who drinks and i don’t. That doesn’t make you bad it’s just something that isn’t for me.
Sam will be a good cap. we just have to let him do his thing and not compare them to Steve.
A person who can look at a situation and look for the good within the ideology is smart one. Black Panther did the same with Killmonger. His ideology was flawed but wasn’t necessarily wrong.
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A grade B Cap ,,,
That is missing the point. It's not about refusing something that was given to another character, it's about *why* Sam refused it.
Why would someone choose not to drink while others do? Is it because they are a recovering alcoholic? Are they afraid of becoming an alcoholic?
Sam choosing not to take the serum because he is afraid of being corrupted it by it tells us that accepting power is bad, even though there are plenty of other characters who did - mainly female characters recently. The question she's asks is why is it good for female heroes to accept power but bad when male heroes do it?
@@archentity Do you even live in this world. When men get power we often get stupid. I don't think it has anything to do with gender or who receives the power, but just his choice to want to do what he can the best way he can. There are police officers who have access to a lot of non-standard items but refuse them because they don't want the presence of military while trying to patrol a school or other family events.
@stevenking3060 Power only reveals what a person always was. Steve shows that. I'm sure a character at one point even said that the serum only makes you more of what you already are. It's just weird to see that when a male receives an Avenger's mantle, accepting power is a bad thing - even though they have so many examples of it being a good thing with female characters who receive the mantle.
I had thought that Bucky's Winter Soldier redemptive arc meant that HE was going to take on the mantle of Cptn America (which he does in the comics... as does Falcon), but perhaps that was even to morally questionable given his a ctions (even forced, through mind control).
Wow lol you just made me rethink everything . Great video ! you made a new fan today . I am very glad youtube randomly plugged this video on my list
No one can be a captain america without that serum.
Honestly, they've been trying to make this whole "mantle" thing work for years. It becoming about race and gender is actually only a recent thing. When they tried replacing Batman with Jim Gordon or Cap with Bucky/John Walker in the comics people were similarly up in arms. The truth is these "mantles" aren't just interchangeable. You can't just take a superhero who fans know and love and just replace them with another person. Maybe if they're an unpopular character or there's major setup for it (Wally West, Blue Beetle, etc), but you can't take a character who has their own identity and just insert them into a preexisting role like this. It's like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
The race/gender thing really kicked off with professional human impersonator Brian Michael Bendis, who was open with his intent to replace Peter Parker with Miles Morales so his biracial daughters could have a Spider-Man to whom they could relate. Apparently the fact that they're half-white doesn't matter, so they can't identify with Peter: they need a half-black, half-hispanic boy and they can definitely relate to that.
The bigotry of insisting that people can only identify with their skin color/sex organs has continued to be pushed, and narcissists who play the victim and assert this same statement only fuel the fire.
And yeah, both Bucky and Sam have been Captain America before, even though both changes received fan backlash. The comics did a decent job of handling Bucky as Cap, but Sam's recent outings haven't been the best - but then again that's the quality of all comics having gone steeply downhill over the past decade with precious few exceptions. I don't know why anyone has hope for new Marvel movies considering the studio's stable of writers and emphasis on hollow spectacle.
Bucky should have inherited the mantle of Cap. That's a redemption arch worth watching, complicated but interesting nonetheless. Falcon should have had it's own thing, it's a really awesome character, but with a Cap costume on top of it, just feel like lazy writing.
Cap will never give an ex terrorist the shield(MCU). That's what make Steve special, he knows best.
@gohanson27 he wasn't a terrorist he was under the control of Hydra his brain was all messed up
Just like the video says, the mantle passing thing just doesnt work. If Steve is gone, then Captain America should be gone.
The only time a torch passing has worked was Batman Beyond. And for some reason comic writers hate Terry McGinnis.
@@3mPeRaToR brainwashed or not, Bucky was a terrorist. I’d argue it’d be harder to accept the man who shot a goddamn president AND murdered the Starks as the new Captain America than it would be for a man of color. Brainwashed or not, Bucky still did those things. He admitted it himself in Civil War. Besides, F&WS made it clear that he wanted out of fighting (as for what gets him involved with the Thunderbolts remains to be seen). Bucky’s been through enough. He’s done his time. Sam has been coming of age.
However I feel like the world wouldn’t necessarily “need” another Captain America if not for John Walker. He tainted the history of the mantle, and Sam, while he isn’t perfect, is by far the best person to fix things
You make excellent points. Using the wings and the shield, we see Sam do everything that Cap did and more anyway. He might as well have taken the serum, because apparently human strength is all you need to throw the shield hard enough to stick in a tree. He can still hold the shield while it's deflecting bullets. He cuts cars in half with his wings. Basically with Sam, they've both demonized the serum AND rendered it useless at the same time.
Or both the shield and the wings are made out of vibranium and we've seen what vibranium does.
I just want to point out that in the source material, the comic books, going all the way back to 1941, Captain America did not have super powers. The super soldier serum pushed Steve Rogers to the theoretical limit of human ability…beyond olympian level in every area of athletic performance. But he wasn’t superhuman. His physicality, combined with exhaustive training in every facet of war, combat tactics, espionage, martial arts, etc. made him the ultimate soldier.
But this argument - that Marvel is saying it’s evil to take the serum - is silly. Power corrupts, it’s true. But only the hearts of the corruptible. It just depends on the person. In the real world, it’s very difficult to resist the moral decay wealth, and the power that comes with it, typically cause. Here, remember that Rogers was a physically enfeebled man, but a morally strong one, before the serum. Men of average strength, never subjected to the kinds of abuse, and not having suffered from the maladies, that made Rogers empathic and sensitive to the plight of others, are far more likely to grow distant from normal people, to see themselves as arriving at an elevated status. Sam Wilson may recognize this, and he therefore chooses to forego the temptation.
Women in our culture are generally socialized (or are naturally inclined, or both…the reason(s) are, of course, uncertain and debatable) to be more empathic, more attuned, more collaborative, and more communal, than men. They’re less susceptible to the corruptions of power. This is definitely NOT to say women can’t succumb to moral corruption. It’s just less likely, generally speaking.
Winter soldier was one of the best stand alone marvel movie.
I think you’re misunderstanding what the serum does: it augments your attributes to a superhuman level. In other words, good people become great and vice versa.
In refusing the serum, Sam is simply admitting to the fact that he is not as virtuous as Steve is and taking the serum could augment his faults or vices to dangerous levels.
Don't forget Red Skull took the same serum and became what he is rather than a dogooder like Cpt America
Sam's new wingnsuit was made by the Wakandans, which greatly enhances his human abilities. The suit is virtually indestructible and probably enhances Sam's physical abilities beyond what Steve Rodgers was physically capable.
Perhaps the Wakandans should have given Sam the Heart-Shaped Herb, too?
The serum didn't just enhanced the physical traits but psychology traits also but isn't that kind of Sam being in doubt of himself and doesn't trust himself with serum .Not sure if we want that in Cap who inspire people trust him and themselves and sure hes got the vibranium suit and all but he is like an ordinary wakandan warrior without the special herb .Will he be able to stop the shield thrown at him by winter soldier bucky i guess not .They should have left the mantle to rest .Falcon alone has so much backstory that they can tell .
Captain America is not about Power. Hulk is stronger than Cap, Thor is stronger than Cap, Strange's magic makes him stronger. It's the MAN. Erskine could've given that formula to anyone, but he found something in Steve Rogers. A Measured man, Self Sacrifice, the ability to use his mind and his heart over braun. In return, Steve could've given the shield to anyone, why Sam? I believe he saw the same things in Sam, that Erskine saw in him. The king who doesn't want to be king. A reluctant hero.
At a minimum, a replacement would need skills and power to use the shield. Here's the replacement has a different skillset and they've upgraded Sam (so that he can turn down being a supersoldier while having the power of a super soldier). As a hypothetical, would it make sense to have wonderwoman take a break and appoint batgirl to fill in? Sorry, I don't know enough comic book characters to craft a good comparison. My complaint about Sam becoming captain america was that I saw pretty much all of the marvel movies and could only remember a single scene he appeared in.
A reluctant hero might be good from a dramatic perspective. If his powers open the door to different dynamics (for instance if he requires repairs to his suit and is thus reliant on others he can't trust) then that might be interesting - as. But it seems reasonable to find it jarring. And substituting in a slightly different character would maybe alter the storytelling. For example, if you recast an all powerful character with someone who has to be crafty, then maybe it alters the tone. My view isn't that the audience is never wrong. But if you got them in the door with action, then it's difficult to sell them a different product. It's like a New Coke situation. If you could hand the mantle to someone who is a Steve clone, that would be intensely lazy, but allow you to do a lot of the same things.
Falcon according to the comics took the mantle of Captain America!
Many said that he is human....Tony Stark is human too but his armor protected him when he was fighting with Thanos
Its the tools you have made who you are no serums qnd other things...
Batman is a mere human but from his training he is above all humans
And it was a human that brought
Superman to his knees...
The thing is human or not when you have training and armor from vibranium i think everything is possible in a world of comics...
Won't you prefer to see movies of Sam Wilson training for the role like doing all the training instead of just a montage and boom he is a capable captain America? .
The character has no story yet, and marvel like the comics didn't set him up right.
We saw all the training batman had to do and how smart he had to become in order to go toe to toe with god's but Sam Wilson just gets the shield and automatically he's capable without any real test or challenge. Steve got the serum, that's instant power, Sam is ordinary, show us how he becomes extraordinary, let the audience care and relate, we can't go from "I can do this all day" to "you need to do better senator". Marvel need to rebrand Sam Wilson if this is to continue.
@@razorprimeI think they did that with "falcon and winter soldier" and they prepared him to be captain America ...we saw moments of him training with the shield above all his armor is from wakanda made from vibranium...I think he enhanced from that armor just like Iron man ...that's why we see scenes impossible from human side but with the armor gave him enhanced mode...he could not reach captain America in terms of agility,strength, stamina,but with his experience I think it's possible...
@@SolidusMark I agree , with the new wakandan suit, it will augmenting his human abilities, I love the suit, But it's not enough. I don't care enough about Sam Wilson because Sam is not captivating or inspiring enough, he is boring !, falcon and the winter soldier was bad, didn't show any real adversity (character development) for Sam, didn't show him become the idea which Captain America represents (morals, leadership, security and good speeches). He is experienced, he fought with the avengers, but now he's on his own, let's face it sam needs more training and combat techniques , imagine him flipping around without his wings and doing martial arts using his jet pack for more force, that is cool.
The character needs a superhero script writer who can make him the best captain America, just my opinion.
You make good points 👍🏾, pleasure to relate with a fan, what's your favourite captain America movie ?
@@razorprime thanks for response!
I like captain America a lot!
All his movies I liked them especially Captain America and the winter soldier that it was like a spy movie! Civil War was also good and the Avengers movies but on the part 1 i preferred to have the shield rather those gauntlets...i now it is was from Civil War that departed separated roads that's why did not had his shield but they could somehow bring back!
Now for Sam I think and like the idea that the mantle of Captain America could be weild from someone that is human and with technology going for another level...we will see how it goes! But I got to say that Sam has his epic fight moments and looks very stylish !
I am eager to see Henry Canvil as secret agent ( captain Britain) at some point!
Lasty I think Captain America represents the marines corps and Falcon the Air force..combined now with falcon and captain America together brings a mix of the best together!
@@razorprime Iron man has no fighting training. He is even weaker than Sam Wilson and he is able to go toe to toe with the hulk and everyone accepts that just because he has an Armour. Man ,he is even able to go toe to toe with Thanos!!!.I mean Thanos!!! Thanos holding four of the five infinity stone is way more powerful than the hulk and Stark was able to stand against him. I mean even without the stones Thanos beats iron man. Same for captain America and yet Cap was also able to resist him. Now, if these was possible for these dudes there is no way on earth according to the comic book lore and logic that Sam Wilson cannot be captain America. Especially, with this new wakandian suit and the implying training and abilities he has as the Falcon and in Falcon and The Winter Soldier. Basically, Sam Captain America is just an enhanced super falcon with a shield which is why he is able to wield the shield .People are talking about Sam's abilities as if it was the issue. It's not, even in the comics.
The only reason that could be acceptable is character and knowing Steve and Sam It's not the issue. Sam knows the current issues, he is military and he has a strong moral core that made it stands again and again alongside cap. As an audience we might not like it but it has nothing to do with Sam being worthy of the mantle or not. Saying otherwise is ridiculous and stupid at best and disingenuous if not racist at worse no matter the arguments. The only thing that matter is how good and meaningful the movie will be.
What it comes down to is the people running Marvel Studios DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING!!
You can blame it all on directors, producers or writers but when you boil it down the one person who’s shoulders it ultimately falls on is KEVIN FEIGE!!
BTW, he’s also in charge of the comics and, well, you can see where that is going…
Is there no ACCOUNTABILITY ANYWHERE??
Get rid of the SOB.
And while we’re at it why is Marvel picking stories from their awful 75/85 era instead of the 65 to 70 timeline when this was the period that built the company and it was their most profitable?
Jeez, it’s almost as if Marvel WANTS to shoot them selves in the foot much like their nearest competitor, DC!
Go back to the First Avenger and recall what Dr. Erskine said to Tommy Lee Jones's character. Steve was the only pick because he had no real power before and therefore understood what it means to be without it. A big, strong lad like Jones's pick (I don't recall his name) would have become cruel in the same way Red Skull did because the serum always amplifies the characteristics of whoever takes it. "Good becomes better and bad becomes worse."
John Walker demonstrated undiagnosed PTSD and moreso was demonstrated as a frontrunner. He was the 21st century version of the Jones pick and the serum exacerbated his flaws.
The fact that Sam wasn't tempted by the serum means he probably would have been fine if he took it, but he literally states in the trailer that he is not trying to be Steve Rogers, so we should probably stop expecting him to be.
That's the problem I'm seeing from the comments and the vid, everyone expects him to be like Steve, but he isn't. He's trying to be his own Captain America, using his own values and morals to be the man Steve *knew* he could be. And for some reason no one's getting that part.
@@windghost2I disagree. I've seen so many comments saying Sam deserves the shield because he shares a lot in common with Steve.
Sam was perfectly fine as Falcon. Just because he doesn't wanna take the serum and is a good guy doesn't mean he should be the next Captain America. He worked so well because he helped people despite not being in the lead role. He's a great supporting character. There's nothing wrong with him continuing playing that role.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp But he doesn't need to stay in that role.
Sam didn't get to be worthy, he's always been worthy. And his arc in FATWS isn't about him earning the mantle of the shield, it's about him fighting against everybody that thinks he didn't, including himself.
He's proving to himself that he *CAN* be Captain America and that's exactly what he does.
It's the same as Miles Morales proving to himself that he can be Spider-Man, different from Peter, but still a hero who understands "That with Great Power, There must also come Great Responsibility" and be a friendly neighborhood hero who helps out those in need.
And that's what Sam Wilson's Captain America is. A good man with a good heart who wants to lend a helping hand to those in need, just like Steve in spirit, but clearly doing his own thing as Captain America.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Yet Steve doesn't try to help combat vets with their ptsd and help them integrate back into society out of the kindness of his heart.
Sam does.
Sam shares the same values as Steve, yes, but he also clearly has different views on how issues and situations should be approached, he tries to de-escalate a lot and I've never seen Steve do that all that much.
Unless I'm forgetting somethings.
Anyways, Sam having inherit goodness is a good trait because Captain America isn't about the powers, the shield or symbol, it's about being a good man and having empathy for your enemies, which Sam shows us by the end of FATWS by empathizing with the Flag Smashers and *why* they decided to take the actions that they did.
And I'm not saying that I or Sam agree with what they did, but I'm saying that him empathizing with them and what caused them to go down this path is great example of him being a good man.
And that's why he's the best person to be Cap.
I think you misunderstand that talk that Sam had with a senator. He wasn't talking about the rights of terrorists. He was talking about what they were doing with millions of people around the world, deciding on who got what and who lived where with total dispassion. The story was imperfect. But I got it. I think you also don't see the suit that he's wearing for what it is. If you go back and look at the avengers assemble cartoon, his new wakanda suit is more like that one. He's a mini iron Man in that costume now.
I really ike how you have explained your thoughts and couldnt agree more with points put forward, AMAZING !
Great think piece. I appreciate you putting it together. I do feel like a few comparisons and conclusions were overreaching a bit, though. At the same time you were consistent with your thought process. Great job.
Personally, I had my doubts about Sam in the beginning. I originally thought Steve would give the shield to Bucky. Looking back, giving it to Sam made the most sense and he was probably the better choice. With little effort they gave Sam foundation in terms of motivation and he's grown so much as a character since then. I think Sam and, by extension, this movie are going to be a major catalyst bringing people back to the MCU and something my kids can latch on to, going forward.
Sam Wilson is a good character, but they are trying to turn him into something he never was, a super-icon. Sam Wilson's charm was his everyday man appeal. He wasn't special, he wasn't pumped up on super soldier serum, he wasn't an icon of virtue, he was just a guy trying to the best he could with what he had (Mind you those wings are pretty handy). But now they are trying to make him into the iconic Captain America. That was Steve Rogers tale. A man easy to ignore but through his goodness of character rose to be a HUMBLE icon. The only kind of icon that can exist without turning despotic is one who is humble. THAT is Steve Rogers story. It doesn't fit with Sam's story and shouldn't be treated with the casual disregard for character that Marvel has shown with this decision. Sam was already the man he was meant to be...he doesn't need the transformation into an icon.
Captain African-America: Stunning & Brave
So then Steve should’ve been called Captain Caucus America….
Captain Caucasian America: Make sure only white corrupt guys like John Walker or Bucky take my mantle bcs I would hate see a non-white take the lead bcs I grew up believing only white people get to be heroes. There I fixed it for you.
Rogers was THE hero of America's Greatest Generation in its biggest war.
He paired and contrasted nicely with Falcon's modern values and perspective while sharing the same patriotism.
But Falcon doesn't bring an extraordinary superpower, values or perspective that modern America needs. He's a side character who showcases how things are now, not what they ought to be.
It's good to see your subs on the rise. I'm rooting for you.
This is the first video of yours I have listened to, and I really enjoyed it. I will be checking out more in the future :)
It feels like you missed the whole point of Captain America. It’s the man that makes him…
Sam has that new Vibranium suit and shield. Not to mention he’s been Cap in the comics for a good long run.
It’s still trash 😅
Sam doesn't quite have the same issues you outline with the other examples. I still have confidence the character is appropriate in the role.
Thor's role wasn't transferred to a woman. Jane temporarily got powers from Mjolnir, then died. Thor is still Thor.
fat Thor told the audience everything the producers thought about him
@venalleader2909 Fat Thor was Hemsworth's idea. He thought it would be funny. Thor also was buff again next movie.
It was done in the comics by inferior writers who had run out of ideas. I'd love to sit in pitch meetings for this crap and see how they argue their way into writing these stupid stories. I've read Norse Mythology and there's never been a female Thor, but there are several powerful females. They can focus on core material and not write stupidity in a weak attempt to attract an auduence they know they don't have.
@@chadbennett7873 Marvel Thor has always only been extremely loosely based on actual Norse myth. For example, Odin's horse was the child of Loki when he shape changed into a mare and gave birth to an 8 legged horse. Thor also was not involved romantically with a human nurse, or scientist in the movie version.
@@TroySavary Of course, they took many liberties, but turning the main character into a female was a bridge too far. If they want to do that, make a new title "Lady Thor" or whatever. Like Spider-Woman. I read it in the early days, I'm well aware of how loosely based on the mythology it is.
They complain that Falcon has no powers and that it would not be possible for him to do the things Steve did, mainly because it would not be plausible in terms of “writing”; however, they seem to selectively choose to forget that in these fictional universes our real-life rules almost never apply, i.e. Falcon co-exists in a world where characters like Daredevil, Punisher, many of the SHIELD agents, Hawkeye, Iron Man and Black Widow are portrayed as humans without powers, but no one seems to mind that Tony Stark survived a free fall in the desert carrying a clunky Mark I, nor does it bother them that Hawkeye is able to directly fight aliens armed with technology far more advanced than his bow.
Daredevil does have powers though, even though he’s blind, He has heightened senses. Punisher is basically a street-level anti hero in the MCU as well.
@@devrayne6770 It doesn't matter if Daredevil has heightened senses, I'm talking about the physical aspect and his feats around it. In all his iterations he does things that even the best wrestler or acrobat in the real world can't do, same with Punisher and the others, but no one cares because they suspend their disbelief to enjoy a story. For some reason they can't do the same with Falcon, who has already fought aliens in Infinity War.
In the comics, Sam is a telepath. Professor Xavier believes him to be a mutant. This Sam is non canonical. They just figured he wasn't a popular character so they took more liberty with him, ignoring the fact that he would eventually be Cap. But, Sam can speak to animals, Redwing is NOT a robot, but an actual Falcon. In the source material, he doesn't ONLY rely on his wings and fighting skills, but also his telepathy. He doesn't go into battle alone, he always has his telepathy as well. This is an issue because he's not Sam at all. Once again, he's a product of the script writers ignoring the source material. The character wasn't developed, isn't the actual character, and this version of him is even more dependent on technology since his powers are NOT present. He's called Falcon because he can communicate with birds and animals, what's Thor without lightning? Why would ya take away your hero's number one ability?
Haven't watched the video but read some comments. Seems weird that people have such a problem with Sam being Captain America in the comics 11 different people have been Captain America at some point including Sam.
And they suck and they are lame, and pale in comparison too. Just because it's in the comic, doesn't mean it's good. Copying major characters has been the hackiest gimmick for generations now.
Super weird
Nah instead it shoulda been the guy the killed people for the better half of his life, who didn’t want the gig in the first place.
Including starks parents.
A lot of people talking about things they probably haven’t even read…real shame.
Just imagine the blow back when Misty Knight gets the title.
Yeah. The whole “viewing the serum as a bad thing” was definitely not a good thing to do. Sam somewhat did well without it which was commendable…. BUUUT the minute he spoke out against the senators whom where just attacked by terrorists whom have not only destroyed many buildings, but killed MANY PEOPLE TOO, and terrorized people to get what they want, demanded that they not call THE TERRORISTS TERRORISTS and say that the terrorists didn’t do ANYTHING WRONG and that the senators “gotta do better”…. Not gonna lie, that was downright distasteful, and despicable. At least with Bucky, his excuse was that he was brainwashed for many years while Bucky might as well have turned himself in considering how guilty he feels. But Karli knew what the fuck she was doing, she willingly killed innocent people “for her cause”…. The flag smashers are terrorists, PERIOD…. And because of that terrible speech, MCU Sam lost my respect In him, and does not deserve the mantle of Captain America….
(Edit) Okay, he may have not said that the terrorists do anything wrong, but the fact is he was acting as if Karli was in the right during the situation, the fact is he still insisted that they stop calling the terrorists that were doing terrorists shit and few minutes ago tried to kill the senators “terrorists”. He might as well have said that the terrorists didn’t do anything wrong…
Right, getting brainwashed is a legitimate 'excuse' because he was not acting of his own will. Once The White Wolf was deprogrammed and rehabilitated, he was the only real choice to take the mantle; Steve's best friend since before the war, a commando in his own right, presumed dead in the line of duty, taken captive, given the serum and brainwashed, returning to fight defending the Earth...he more than earned it, plus nothing would be more appropriate than Steve;s best friend who believed in Steve back when he was a sickly 90 lb weakling
why must you lie like this "say that the terrorists didn’t do ANYTHING WRONG" he never said that, he says those labels stop people from asking why!
Did you listen to the speech ? Also those « terrorists » were a result of the government ignoring those people’s needs and human rights.
@@TalentMthiyaneI’ve learned these people just dislike Sam . For obvious reasons… They literally do mental gymnastics and straight up lie to make him seem like he was on the terrorists side. He was just trying to understand the conflict.
@@kingmanga8575 Its unbelievable
In the movie 'End Game', it was Rogers who chose Sam and didn't choose Bucky and he agreed with him. So you're basically saying Steve Rogers made a mistake... All your post did was make me want to see this movie even more, so THANK YOU...
🔝
@@jeromehoyle4945 Fake Marvel fan confirmed.
@@BrandontheAwesome No you are the fake Marvel fan. Your saying the comics and films got it wrong but you have it right? WTF would Bucky be Capt in the MCU? This is so dumb is mind blowing. Let the ex terrorist be Capt America. Bro what!?
@@gohanson27 Thank you, my point exactly...
The writers chose for Steve.🤷♂️
I agree with your statements and points of view in the video. In addition, Sam Wilson should have remained Falcon. The Falcon code name was part of his original comic book identity and was played to perfection. Sam is a unique and beloved character and deserves to remain so. In my opinion, Bucky Barns should have been given the mantle of Captain America. He is LITERALLY cut from the same cloth as Steve Rogers. He was born at the same time period with the same miliary/heroic ideals and gone through similar superhuman processes giving both he and Steve superpowers. Although his stint as the Winter Soldier (WS) was a dark period in his journey, being the new Cap would have been a good way to atone for his WS sins and make amends to humanity for his past actions.
Well said! You voiced the complexities of the issue very well.
Nostalgia has a culture unto itself. That culture won't change in one generation. Even if you cloned Steve Rogers and rebooted him as Captain America 2.0, it still would feel different to to audience. Sam has 0 chance on being viewed on the same page as Steve... not that he wants to, but from an audience perspective. Despite knowing this, we, as humans, still desire a continuation of something we loved, while knowing it's impossibility. Closure is hard for most humans. So we try to delay it, even at the expense of others' well being.
Falcon has a super power, he's smart and knows how to fix and development his wing suit. He may not be Stark levels of smart, but he's a soldier, has a flying suit, and practiced the Shield.
He will never be Steve, but he can be Captain America, because the title is a title, and can be wielded by anyone, really.
He didn't even make the suit in the MCU 😂😂
@@TheRandompaint Why would he make a suit when the greatest minds in wakanda can whip one up in a matter of days?
@@Forteoverload I would rather that, hell I'd rather him as the New Black panther.
@@Forteoverload I just never liked how the suit was just army property and developed by them. At least make it stark technology or something similar.
@@Kinos141 Fake Marvel fan confirmed.
I don't know how you tell the story of Sam Wilson without mentioning his time as Captain America. Being Cap has become a huge part of Sam's history in the comics. Sam is Marvel's first African American super hero. His role as Falcon is iconic. But he is a good Cap as well. So good, Steve personally asked Sam to wear the red white and blue alongside him.
@@BIGkearney He is not a good Captain America.
But thanks for outing yourself as a fake Marvel fan.
@@BrandontheAwesome All fans are real fans, since nobody knows all 80 years of comic book trivia!
@@darlalathan6143 I do
@@BIGkearney falcon is not the first black hero in marvel...it was the king himself,the black panther.first appearance fantastic four using prep time way before even Batman did it.
@@wambokodavid7109 I never said Falcon was the first black hero in Marvel. I said Falcon was the first African American hero in Marvel History. Black Panther isn't American. Reading is fundamental.
There's nothing wrong with Sam as Cap. He wasn't just barking an order at the end of the show. He was showcasing his leadership while spitting facts. It didn't need to be a spectical, Steve would've had a similar speech.
Secondly, Sam refused the injection because he doesn't need to be like Steve, he's already like him. He just does everything slower as Sam said it himself.
I believe the issue is how his character will be handled by the writers, plus the back lash he's gotten isn't justified.
Steve made the right call by giving Sam the shield. Even Bucky wanted Sam to have the Shield.
Please correct me if I' misunderstood, but it seems that NerdWord believes that only people with superpowers should be considered for the title "Captain America". And since Sam Wilson does not have super powers, then he should not be Captain America. Sam Wilson has considerable skills, but since those skills are not superpowers, then he is not qualified, according to NerdWord. I'm glad that Captain America was not limited to individuals with superpowers. I think that virtue and the ability to protect people, even if it's to a lesser extent than Rogers, is good enough criteria! And Sam Wilson - the New Captain America MEETS BOTH CRITERIA! That fact is unquestionable. I appreciate the video.
There's alot of videos prematurely pooping on this movie, and of course everyone is entitled to thier opinion. I'm excited and looking forward to the new Captain America movie and willl judge it for myself when i see it. The MCU is following the Comics, in which Sam Wilson is just as much Captain America when it was his time, as Steve Rogers was when it was his time. Steve Rogers himself deemed Sam Wilson worthy to be the next Captain America and so I'm looking forward to how this arc continues to unfolds. Just my two cents ✌️
@@VideoGamer77 Fake Marvel fan spotted.
@BrandontheAwesome . Lol..yeah..fake Marvel fan spotted indeed!
@VideoGamer77 The movie is going to suck.
@BrandontheAwesome . Your opinion and you have the right to not see it. I judge for myself and looking forward to seeing it.
@VideoGamer77 Have fun wasting money then.
For better or for worse, I have a feeling they'll brush by the power level by subtly increasing Sam's own power. He's not going to have to wrestle with the idea of taking the serum because his own abilities and tools with level him up.
He'll have his vibranium suit + wings + Cap's shield, which means that his overall strength will be able to match up just under that of superpowered villains. Thus, whenever we question how a strong but ostensibly normal human could go toe to toe (or almost) with a supervillain, the answer will likely involve his suit.
For all the problems that Marvel has had with Black Widow or Hawkeye, they have generally kept them grounded.
I have a feeling this will not be the case with Sam.
Why r u comparing Sam to black widow or Hawkeye when he should be compared to black panther or iron man?
Y’all want him to be street lvl so bad lmaooo
Sam is no longer just a basic human with a few cool gadgets like Hawkeye or black widow. Hes in a full super suit power by vibranium and wakandan tech. Hes not meant to be grounded. The dude can take out missiles and planes with ease atp 😂😂😂
@@kingmanga8575 Still crying I see.
@@BrandontheAwesome I’m pretty sure this was the first comment I made. Why do u keep responding to my comments to say nothing of value? I got u so scared to debate u turned into a fan? Lil bro got a crush 😂😂😂
@kingmanga8575 Why do you keep projecting?
@@BrandontheAwesome why do u keep replying to me to not even talk abt the topic? I’ve already dismantled ur points lil bro. U don’t have to desperately fiend for my attention anymore 😂😂😂 you’ve been acknowledged lmaooo
He let TERRORISTS go because they were misunderstood. Not a friend that he knew for 70+ years that was impersonated by a terrorist. He just said "government bad do better" because some ginger girl was mad they couldn't magically have more money after a universal threat was righted. I barely liked his as Falcon and he's never gonna fill ocean deep shoes like Captain America's
People were dying from preventable diseases in the camps stablished by the council while the senators spent time talking amongst themselves. Comments like yours can only be Said by those who have never had to struggle in their lives.
Steve didn't know Bucky for 70+ years. Bucky and steve were frozen for most of that time.
What do you want Sam to say? Steve gave "do better" speeches in winter soldier and civil war.
Ginger girl or Karli wanted the people she cared for to be given vaccines, teachers, and supplies that they needed. Wouldn't you want your loved ones to have those too if they needed them?
Why did you dislike him as falcon?
Why will he never fill the ocean sized shoes for you?
Bruh you've pissed some off with this comment.
@FriendlyBatDoom who is pissed off. I just see great polite disagreements
Ugh the terrorist died
The thing about power in a narrative sense, is that it is often intrinsically tied to level of respect of those who are presented it. For characters that are antagonists and anti-heroes, there is often a lack of respect of such power, as they often do not care where it came from (unknown sources, contracts/promises from dubious sources), and often feel that they deserve such power to accomplish what they want. It's how we got Red Skull and John Walker (USA Agent).
For those who do respect power, they tend to often question if they even deserve such power, as they often times do not know how it will affect them in the long-term, and if they are capable of living up to the level of responsibility that will come with acquiring such power. So Sam refusing it because he is unsure of how it change him isn't a bad thing. In fact, his refusal of the new Super Soldier Serum, seeing how it has changed it's most recipients isn't something that should be seen as a negative, as Sam, like Steve, is shown questioning his government, as within his rights, and must have all the answers before making such a life-changing decision. Not every hero needs to pick up the Holy Sword to finish the journey. Will the journey be more difficult without it? Sure. But to quote Syndrome fom The Incredibles, "When everyone's Super, then nobody is."
Besides, his suit and shield has supposedly received various upgrades since Falcon and The Winter Soldier, so we'll see how he does without it.
The great thing about Sam Wilson is that he’s an ordinary person. He is not super intelligent or strong or wealthy, he’s just a guy. I like that and it makes him relatable.
Also it’s great that he’s an African American because there aren’t many black superhero’s.
Tony Stark was just a man…with armor. Sam Wilson is just a man…with similar tech armor…🤷♂️
No serum for either…
WHAT IS YOUR REAL ISSUE 🤔
There have been 16 different people to hold the mantle of Captain America, including Sam and multiple women. He'll be fine.
Right, folks act like this is something new in the industry get over it. lol
True, but in those instances, there weren't literally BILLIONS of dollars at stake
Is that why it's going for it's fourth movie reshoot??
@@mediabrandslife The box office numbers disagree with you though
@kaybigg All of the Avengers movies had multiple reshoots. Spiderman Homecoming had multiple reshoots. Civil War multiple reshoots. They all have multiple reshoots. I'd be more worried if they did no reshoots.
you are 100% correct. this is what I've believed for a very long time. Falcon is great, and with a serum to take him from good to great. without it, he's a sub-capable good guy, not a hero. Sam seems to have a chip on his shoulder, which is disqualifying for SuperHero
and don't forget the Steve/Bucky/Tony issue was highly contrived. not the story, that was great...but the massive gap in narrative that Steve knew bucky killed Tony's parents...that came out of left field so hard it took me completely out of the movie. if he knew, he would have told tony, he would have asked him for help for his friend, he would have worked with Tony to take down who was behind reprogramming Bucky to kill Tony's parents.
heroes don't avoid uncomfortable conversations, and Steve is a hero.
I love how those gigantic 10ft wide metal wings just disappear into his tiny backpack
Seriously, you guys want the man who assassinated JFK, The Starks and other important figures to become Captain America, the public wouldn't stand for it, especially if John Walker(US Agent) got demoted for beheading a Flag Smasher, then Bucky would never get that role, maybe in the future someone maybe desperate and crazy enough to have him be the man, but until that day the moniker and role of Captain America is safe with Sam. Hey who knows he may retire and be the one to pass it on to Bucky, after he's put in some redemption work and gains positive public fame. But anyways I'm gonna watch the movie and enjoy it for what it's worth!
Fucking. This.
Yes I agree, I would like to Bucky as cap, but I could only see that happening if Sam dies or something (which I don’t want to happen lol)
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@@MrDeadpoolmdk Fake Marvel fan detected.
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Sam is the best choice to replace Steve. by process of elimination, we only have three choices: Bucky, John walker and Sam. Bucky just got pardoned and still has nightmares from his past life, so he's unstable. John walker has anger issue, a burning desire to prove his worth and is a rookie, i don't see a rookie being the leader of the avenger. And then Sam, a guy who has same ideals as Steve, the only difference is the serum. Mind you, not having the serum is the interesting part of Cap Sam because it gives more room on his power-ups... Also, Steve promoted U.S. Commando, while Sam will promote U.S. Air Force... The transition is beautiful to me.
I'll never understood the "It should be Bucky" crowd. That man is NOT READY.
@@Nzambi237 And you are a fake Marvel fan.
@@Forteoverload Because it would serve as a far better story than Sam as Cap. Sam was his own man as the Falcon.
When did he say he wanted to be capn America? drop the actor syndrome
I'm acc all for him becoming cap but you're the one person that raises valid points against it
I completely agree with your assessment of Steve and Sam. Sam is Falcon, not Captain America. They should have introduced a new character to take on the role of Captain America, someone who isn't already a superhero. It's hard to believe that Steve Rogers was the only one willing to serve his country. They could have brought in a new character who receives the Super Soldier Serum, driven by patriotism and a desire to do what's right, even if it meant risking death like Steve did. Perhaps this new character could have been inspired by Steve, aiming to make a difference in his honor. Maybe this person gets the serum in an attempt to save his life and then commits to living up to Steve's legacy. That's what I would have done.
This isnt an original story. This is adaptation of a comic. Falcon being Captain America is comic accurate. Hit the source material.
I agree, alot of these people who have problems with Sam being Cap, have not invested time in the Marvel comic story line. Just as Jane Foster being Thor. We are being treated to a long existing timeliness from our reading media.
So you are either a long time fan of the rich history of Marvel, or your a fan of the flims drawing you in for the first. I think that if you have issues with roles being handed over to individuals you have doubts about. Maybe you should spend a little time finding out the history from Marvel, and if the characters were pre-planned to take up the role to begin with.
It’s always casuals who scream the loudest
No thanks. Captain America and Avengers were always the poorest written comics. X-Men was always vastly superior in characters, plot and depth.
Besides, comic accurate does not translate as a good movie. This was political, it was clumsy and stupid. Easily predicted as an epic fail.
@@XDX13 Nope. It is the opposite. Purists scream the loudest. No one listens.
@@goldenmetalrat60 Movies sometimes DO make me want to read the comics. They generally have more time to develop. But the whole Jane Foster thing was so poorly done in the films, it was painful. Same with Sam. Those two characters were so one dimensional it was a travesty.
Dwayne McDuffie spoke about this very thing...why is it cool when Batman fights Superman and can dodge Darkseid's omega beams but Sam a human with no powers as well it's seen as impossible. I think him being a human defying the odds is what makes Sam Wilson as Cap work for me.
You know why....and white people make it super obvious
@@jtaylor405 Then you are a fake Marvel fan. Good day.
@Forteoverload And just like that you lose all credibility.
@@BrandontheAwesome pedo strikes again.
@gohanson27 Self-projection at its finest.
WHO IS THIS VIDEO FOR?
Sam Wilson became Captain America in Marvel Comics BACK in 2015, wearing the same outfit that we see now have in the MCU version. And he is STILL one of two active Captain America's in the comics today, and is the one presently IN THE AVENGERS. As for the movie, it hasn't come out yet. And the Disney series did a great job of showing that Sam Wilson didn't want to be Captain America at first because he didn't feel worthy. Again, WHO IS THIS VIDEO FOR?
@@BePatient888 People with common sense, that's who.
@@BrandontheAwesome Alt-Right "common sense" includes Flat-Earthers, conspiracy theorists, and TERFs.
crybabies is the answer.
@@BrandontheAwesome you mean normies. Folks that read comics already have these answers. So his question who is this video for is a legit question cause shouldn't everyone that claim to be fans of the MCU at least checked out some comics? So I believe this video is for folks with no comic sense.
People with a functioning brain.
Perfect/Honest video on Steve Rogues and Sam Wilson
I couldn't agree more! Great video!!!
Yes, Sam does become Captain America in the comics and then Bucky becomes Captain America. Sam's tenure and Bucky's time as Captain America should be a story arc.
reverse that order and you mostly got it correct
@@williamj.dovejr.8613 And nobody liked it in the comics.
Excuse me......But do ("Batman")has.- super-strength?) cause if not mistaking that "Dude" is regular fucking human, with "Technology" & bunch of "Gadgets", maybe a Armor-Suit", here &; There, But as fans" we believe , how he be "Beating" all these ("Over powered") villains on regular basis, Now its (Sam wilison) in the same - situation as ("Bruce wayne"), buts. Its not believable, Get the fuck out of here!!) sam got "Tech" & Gadgets, just like ("Batman") aint no-fucking "Difference!!
The difference is he's black, mfs just don't wanna say it.
You're right! I suspect the double standard is partly because Batman is a more popular character because he was published since 1938, while the Falcon was published in the 1970s as a Blaxploitation character and sidekick. The other reason is probably racism.
@darlalathan6143 / I don't give fuck about, who came 1st in the "comics, all I was saying, is (Sam Wilson) & ("Bruce Wayne") is regular humans, with "Technology", neither one of them has "Super strength", they use there "Wit" & there "Technology") that's it & that's all!!
I don't agree. I think Sam is a growing character like any of the other heroes. Just because he's Captain America doesn't mean he has to now be perfect or always make the right call. Because even Steve didn't. Sam was worried that the power of the serum might change him because he saw what happens when you give power to the wrong person (John Walker). But I think the lesson he's in the process of learning is that it isn't about the power, its about the man. So I think (and hope) that he will take the serum in his upcoming movie. Especially since he's going up against a Hulk and he quite frankly needs it. Idc that those wings are adamantium/vibranium. It's a hulk.
@@sollyb1275 Fake Marvel fan spotted.
The serum enhances more than your physical attributes, but your internal ones. Sam is right to be cautious.
Sam as Captain falcon, is amazing comic setup,what i love about Sam's character the most, is the fact that he is willing to take on more and more challenges including facing Red hulk which i wouldn't dare to do so plus without a super soldier serum, Sam wanted to face his challenges as a natural captain America which makes him a very unique character as captain America
It's funny how not having powers or enhanced abilities and using tech and ingenuity to fight other super powered beings was never an issue when people were watching Iron Man, War Machine, Hawkeye or Ant-Man do their thing. But when it comes to Sam Wilson who just so happens to have a suit of made of vibranium, courtesy of the Wakandans, it's a major issue and suddenly makes no sense at all. I mean did literally everyone forget what vibranium can do?
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@@dkg2894 Did you forget Cap didn't need to rely on tech?
@BrandontheAwesome Which Cap are you referring to? Cuz I'm talking about Sam
@@dkg2894 You should obviously know who I am referring to. The one and only Captain America.
@@BrandontheAwesome There's actually more than one Captain America. Steve Rogers, Bucky Barnes, Sam Wilson, John Walker, Isaiah Bradley. With Cap's shield as your profile pic I'd assume you'd have known that. Nice try though🥱😉
The biggest issues I see are twofold:
1. Sam is already a “good man” but ultimately that makes him very dull and flat as a character. He has no real potential for growth and that fear of taking power sounds more like a lack of desire for responsibility he probably knows he can’t handle. Sam isn’t a leader. He never was and never will be. No one follows him. He can’t be inspiring because he’s just not. This means that narratively the story has no where to go. Or worse he becomes a passenger in his own movie.
2. Disney is all about discouraging those that have power from using it because they do t want ANYONE getting any ideas about changing the status quo. They are the representation of the greatest evil on the planet: incompetent greed. They can’t criticize those in power because those are their sycophants, money makers and protection. Those modern “heroes” are framed as good because they keep those in power in power. Sam’s speech to “do better” is basically saying “let those in charge figure out a better solution while the common people and those with superpowers wait and cater to them”. Sam isn’t grayer. He’s just less than Steve in every way. Bucky would’ve been the better choice.
I feel like you misunderstood the speech at the end of the F&WS. If you look at the story as a whole, the speech made perfect sense. The point was the Flag Smashers wouldn't have existed if the governments didn't kick people out of the homes they had been living in, and found a better way to deal with the situation. They basically said f those people, and someone (Agent 13) took advantage of that. So, yeah. The speech was actually good. I feel like the people who hate on it are just doing it because Sam isn't Steve. Not saying you did that, but mostly. And just to be extra clear, he was NOT siding with the terrorists. He understood what they were fighting for, and tried to help them find a better way. Their fight wasn't necessarily bad. They just kept getting f'd over by the government. So, like I said, speech made sense.
Correction: The speech made no sense and it was basically Sam siding with the bad guys.
@BrandontheAwesome yeah, I don't argue with people who just say the opposite of what I said. If that's your opinion, that's fine. But you're wrong.
@CHARLESXTDOOLEY Actually, I'm right. And the facts back me up.
I think your getting it wrong. It's yet another scene that builds up Steve as a man.
Sam is pretty much saying that though Steve was not corrupted by the power he can't be sure he has the fortitude to not be corrupted himself.
I think it's ironic, because in the Winter Soldier they set him up to be just as virtuous as Steve.
I actually agree with a lot of, this but I also have to admit watching him as a Captain America without the serum and seeing how he operates is also compelling.
He's not a Super Soldier for one. He's like 5'10" 175. He cant duke it out with dudes like Batrok.
Bucky is clearly a better choice from any angle. Except color.
Why that matters is why most people dont care about Marvel anymore.
In the reality of the mcu, it wouldn’t make sense if the mantle of Captain America was given to a former nazi assassin. And yes Steve Roger was a super soldier, but his REAL strength is being able inspire others, encourage people into doing the right thing and to lift spirits even in the darkest of times. Cap is far from being the strongest avengers; most of them can obliterate him within seconds. Yet the avengers still choose to follow him, not because he fights pretty good, but because they see something in him, the same thing Steve saw in Sam. Also, I just wanted to point out that the way you talked about Sam just now is pretty similar in the way how Agent K talked about Steve pre serum in the first avenger.💀
@@danielleiva2670ur using too much logic. They don’t understand that caps entire role in the mcu is that he isn’t the strongest but he more than makes up for that with his willpower.
Plus if they even cared to watch falcon and the winter soldier falcons super suit puts him on super soldier lvl at least. Dude literally caught a truck with his suit and took no damage from a helicopter falling on him. I could make a genuine argument he beats every super soldier on screen.
So you want a man fresh off hydra mind control, a confirmed killer, and he spent god knows how long in Wakanda to be Cap? You do know the U.S. and Wakanda aren't on the best of terms right? BP2 pretty much confirmed that.
Sam is Captain America.. No one has to like or accept it.. Steve chose him!! It won't change the FACT!!
@@Aries1rbh Wrong. Steve Rogers is Captain America, Sam Wilson is the Falcon.
@@BrandontheAwesome "Denial ain't just a river in Egypt." Sam first became Captain America in the comic books.