I struggled a bit making this video because I almost felt like I was being disloyal. I really like Sam, he one of the reasons that phase 2 and 3 of the MCU were so good. I loved his dynamic with Steve and Nat and Bucky and I wanted to see more of it. I desperately want to know what the team got up to in the two years they were on the run/stationed in Wakanda. I feel kind of robbed because we didn't see it. That would have been a really neat tv show or even just its own separate films. Additionally, if we wanted to see more Steve, the entire five years of "the blip" should have been its own phase on its own. I wish that avenue had been explored. And now, unless there is some sort of a hard reboot which I'm sure if I'm in favour of, we'll never see it. Of course Chris Evans is totally disconnected from the MCU right now, but I would wholeheartedly take him back if we could. Anyway, something I didn't talk about much in this video is Sam's suit. I'm mean, its glaringly obvious that his head isn't covered and he doesn't have the super soldier serum to protect it when he takes a direct hit. The vibranium shield and wings might stop a missile, but they certainly aren't going to protect Sam from the sheer force that a hit like that should generate. They are having him do stunts that we're accustomed to seeing from super soldiers and Sam just isn't one.
That’s the thing. As they have already shown in the D+ show, the story will have him be just as strong and impervious as he needs to be when the plot demands, so the whole “he refused power when offered” will itself be a red herring. They will make him play the full part of a superhero even if he’s not technically supposed to be one. Like Natasha in her solo outing. Yes, it would be nice if choices and actions had consequences.
Don't feel bad, it's just who you are! White people like you love to complain, especially about fictional stuff that has no bearing in the real world! People in the real world are losing their lives, and this is what you want to focus on!
What I wanted to see was a team-up between Cap and Falcon, like in the comics (at least for a while) and focused on their friendship and teamwork. Cap represented the Army, Falcon the Air Force, and they worked together to get things done. Also, Sam is his own man, he doesn't need Cap's title nor shield to give him some sort of validation; it's kind of insulting, really.
I wouldn't give Sam extra points for the "when we start"... Sam literally had nothing else to do, but for example, Hawkeye does the same thing, he's going to fight for what's right and he has a family to lose, and in fact he loses his family at one point, luckily he got them back even though he still loses his best friend in Natasha, when Steve meets Sam he had nothing to lose, no family, no girdfriend, and apparently he didn't even have friends, i would have thought that he hav friends in his "former air combat unit", but that was never talked about.
@@mcruz4571 There is not point to talking about Sam's life when it would have messed up the pacing of the story. Sam has friends and likely female friends as he has been known to have dated some of the more powerful heroes.
I feel like I’m the only one who thinks they both could’ve been cap. Imo that would’ve been cool to see. 2 active caps both bffs with the original carrying on his mantle.
The thing is Sam isn't trying to be someone else. He is still Sam. What happens is that Sam holds the same values as Steve. That's why Steve chose him to be the New Captain América.
And let's not forget this was an actual storyline in the comics in the... 70's? The difference is of course Steve Rogers returned to be Cap in the comics. But yes. Sam Wilson is the Falcon and a darn good one.
Sam Wilson is the best Falcon. His bond-like gadgetry was cool touch. That being said, he doesn't have the same presence as Steve Rogers. He feels like a hero trying to be a different hero. It didn't really work out in the comics either. It was a sign that the golden age of comics was dying. Sam Wilson is Falcon just like Miles Morales is Miles Morales.
The "you've gotta do better Senator" its one of the funniest cringiest memes of the MCU for me, its so bad that everytime anyone brings that up i die laughing
Yea the argument has a couple fallacies, Sam not taking the serum doesn’t mean Steve Rogers isn’t a good man or virtuous. It’s like you being someone who drinks and i don’t. That doesn’t make you bad it’s just something that isn’t for me. Sam will be a good cap. we just have to let him do his thing and not compare them to Steve. A person who can look at a situation and look for the good within the ideology is smart one. Black Panther did the same with Killmonger. His ideology was flawed but wasn’t necessarily wrong.
That is missing the point. It's not about refusing something that was given to another character, it's about *why* Sam refused it. Why would someone choose not to drink while others do? Is it because they are a recovering alcoholic? Are they afraid of becoming an alcoholic? Sam choosing not to take the serum because he is afraid of being corrupted it by it tells us that accepting power is bad, even though there are plenty of other characters who did - mainly female characters recently. The question she's asks is why is it good for female heroes to accept power but bad when male heroes do it?
@@archentity Do you even live in this world. When men get power we often get stupid. I don't think it has anything to do with gender or who receives the power, but just his choice to want to do what he can the best way he can. There are police officers who have access to a lot of non-standard items but refuse them because they don't want the presence of military while trying to patrol a school or other family events.
@stevenking3060 Power only reveals what a person always was. Steve shows that. I'm sure a character at one point even said that the serum only makes you more of what you already are. It's just weird to see that when a male receives an Avenger's mantle, accepting power is a bad thing - even though they have so many examples of it being a good thing with female characters who receive the mantle.
The problem is the writers don't seem to grasp Sam is just a dude in a suit, he isn't a super soldier, that was an important part of Steve's character and skill set. Hell just wielding the shield would be borderline impossible for Sam as even if the thing only weighs like 5 pounds, throwing and catching that thing constantly in battle will reduce your arm to a limp noodle in minutes due to the extreme strain on a persons's muscles. Steve avoid that due to the Serum essentially preventing muscle fatigue as well as greatly enhanced strength
It is physically impossible for anyone to do what is done with the Captain America shield. Even if you have super strength. It is not rubber. How does it bounce? It's crazy how people suddenly get their physics degree when a black man is the superhero.
@@PandaPanda-ud4ne Did yall even watch falcon and the winter soldier? That’s not just any suit. It’s made of vibraium. Sam has literally lifted a truck with his suit and tanked a heliport falling on him with no damage. He is easily just as strong if not stronger than cap.
Natasha is just a woman in a suit, so is Hawkeye, so is Iron Man. There's only one difference, and everyone can see what that is. If you're having trouble seeing this, let me know, and I'll explain it to like i would a 5 year old.
I agree. Sam as Falcon was already a great thing. He had the world's respect as Falcon. Him taking over as Cap feels unnecessary, or at least how Marvel is playing it. Bucky has a far more interesting character arc with a greater tie to Steve Rogers.
I have said this before in other comment sections, and I'll say it again here. Bucky should have been given the shield instead of Sam. Bucky knows Steve's character better than anyone else in the entire MCU. He knows why Steve is the perfect man to be Captain America. He knows he isn't worthy. Donning the mantle of Captain America would have been an act of contrition for him, penance for his actions as the Winter Soldier. What's more, Steve knows who Bucky really at his core. They could have also had Bucky use the shield defensively, never throwing it offensively like Steve did, in a way to highlight the inner struggles of how much Bucky holds on to the memories of his only real friend and that the shield is a symbol he knows he can never live up to. They could explore Bucky being more violent than Steve but trying to be a better man despite his own flaws. It would have added a stark comparison to the man that Steve was instead of the less noble, but not really flawed Sam Wilson in the MCU.
Both the first Captain America movies and second Captain America movie literally foreshadow Bucky becoming Captain America when he picks up his sheild. The thing is Bucky was Captain America in the comics before Sam Wilson. But they decided to just make Sam Wilson Captain America because it was a newer comics during when Endgame came out.
Difficult to say. Honestly, Bucky is kind of a war criminal ... They touched upon that in the show I think, but it would have been weird for him to suddenly become the symbol of peace imo 😅
@ Black Widow was brainwashed assassin as well but nobody complains about her breaking away from being brainwashed and being an assassin and instead becoming a superhero. Yet people have a problem Bucky doing the same.
In the movie 'End Game', it was Rogers who chose Sam and didn't choose Bucky and he agreed with him. So you're basically saying Steve Rogers made a mistake... All your post did was make me want to see this movie even more, so THANK YOU...
The idea behind the serum is giving power revealed someone's true character. Steve remained a good man. Even with Peter Parker (spider bite, not serum), he became cocky at first. But then he learned "with great power..." It is weird that Sam (and the writers) forgot what made Steve Rogers special.
Just about every superhero that's written goes through a humbling experience that makes them relatable and it's their reaction to it that makes them a hero or not. The difference was Steve was already humbled before he got the serum. He was undersized and grew up with a number of health issues. Spiderman was humbled with his uncle's/aunt's/MJ's death (depending on which universe). John Walker struggled because he had spent so much time before the serum being a strong success at everything he did. Captain Marvel is difficult to relate to because her humbling experience doesn't seem as personal. It was more about man keeping women caged, let me out, hear me roar and is quite played out. She-Hulk never really seemed like she was humbled at all on a personal level and tried to paint all sorts of sleights against women in general as her humbling experience and proceeded to be a know-it-all which no one cares for. It's why no one really cares for that character and the actress even more.
@@MRF1983 What I remember is that Steve was basically used as a cheerleader or propaganda tool by the government instead of being sent to war. That changed when he went on a rogue rescue mission to save Bucky. Maybe there was a part where Steve got cocky somewhere. I'd have to rewatch.
7:31 it’s funny because John Walker ended up being a sympathetic strawman as the TH-camr Loomar said. What he did was questionable but not even undeniably bad. He is not a bad guy. He is just portrayed as bad to the protagonists. Anyway please go watch Loomar’s video on him it’s great.
I mean, I can see what you're saying, but he also did kill somebody using the shield. No matter the circumstances, that's still not a great look morally or politically and especially considering the mantle he was representing.
@@nerdword07 Plenty of other Heroes in the MCU have killed before, and it's not fair to solely condemn some for their actions while at their lowest How would have Steve treated Tony if he had successfully killed Bucky?
@@nerdword07 He did exactly what a soldier should do. The man was a danger to everyone in the area, and John had to stop him. He had already killed Lemar, and there was no indication he wouldn't kill again. Several seconds earlier in the scene, that same super soldier threw a concrete slab at John that would have harmed the civilians behind him had John not blocked it with the shield. That Terrorist needed to be stopped; he was a threat to the innocent civilians around him. John had no way to restrain him, nor was the Terrorist in any cooperative mood. One hit from him could kill a normal person instantly. John, in the middle of an active combat zone, had every right to act the way he did. Both as a soldier and in self-defence. Morally, he was justified in killing a terrorist to ensure the safety of the people. Politically, that was a known terrorist with the super soldier serum. Effectively making him a living weapon capable of and has commited mass murder. Certainly justifiable in the rules of engagement.
@@nerdword07 true tho, but cap doesn't represent the moral of not killing like Batman does. He is a soldier after all. But the issue with Walker is a bad writing, and even worse message. Terrorists should not be glorified or sympathiesed.
Narratively I admit Sam earned the shield Old Man Rogers gave him. However, I wonder if Endgame's ending was natural instead of manufactured for a pre-approved conclusion if Steve Rogers, as Bucky's best friend, would've saw that Bucky needed the shield. Decades prior Bucky was physically holding Captain America's shield in his hands until a Hydra henchman blasted him out of Hydra's train and away from the shield. He's held onto the shield multiple times afterwards but every time since WWII, using the shield defensively, he's wielded the shield as a weapon. Bucky as the Winter Soldier used offensive weapons for each appearance following his last scene within Captain America The First Avenger. Arm included. As of this moment, for the foreseeable future, he will evidently continue packing an arsenal of weapons. I don't believe this future is ideal. Bucky's entire future was derailed from the moment he picked up Captain America's shield for the first time but it was neither his nor the shield's fault. If Captain America gave his shield to Bucky, this act could've begun a transformative journey clearly missing from the MCU now. I keep hearing how Sam Wilson is already the perfect person for Captain America. Which is true since he's a static character whose remained the same throughout his appearances until Falcon and the Winter Soldier. That's why I believe there's more of a story in handing the shield over to someone who would immediately confess he's not a good man if offered the shield. I hear explanations revolving around how Bucky's currently unworthy when each phase 1 superhero experienced a similar character story arc before transforming into heroes. Sam's hesitancy was, in continuity, unfounded during Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Sam Wilson would've tried as he promised immediately upon accepting Captain America's new shield. That's why I believe he earned that shield while Bucky needed the broken original. The same shield Captain America carried is the one which belonged to Bucky and once repaired two Captain Americas could taken Steve Roger's place.
He let TERRORISTS go because they were misunderstood. Not a friend that he knew for 70+ years that was impersonated by a terrorist. He just said "government bad do better" because some ginger girl was mad they couldn't magically have more money after a universal threat was righted. I barely liked his as Falcon and he's never gonna fill ocean deep shoes like Captain America's
People were dying from preventable diseases in the camps stablished by the council while the senators spent time talking amongst themselves. Comments like yours can only be Said by those who have never had to struggle in their lives.
Steve didn't know Bucky for 70+ years. Bucky and steve were frozen for most of that time. What do you want Sam to say? Steve gave "do better" speeches in winter soldier and civil war. Ginger girl or Karli wanted the people she cared for to be given vaccines, teachers, and supplies that they needed. Wouldn't you want your loved ones to have those too if they needed them? Why did you dislike him as falcon? Why will he never fill the ocean sized shoes for you?
"Falcon and the Winter Soldier" is very invested in this idea that Steve is the only one with incorruptible "morals" but....Bucky was never corrupted by the serum, Bucky was brainwashed by Hydra.
“The role of Captain America was the only one not handed to a woman” But we have seen female Captain America in the form of Peggy. In fact Peggy has seen more appearances as Captain America is than Sam
The biggest issues I see are twofold: 1. Sam is already a “good man” but ultimately that makes him very dull and flat as a character. He has no real potential for growth and that fear of taking power sounds more like a lack of desire for responsibility he probably knows he can’t handle. Sam isn’t a leader. He never was and never will be. No one follows him. He can’t be inspiring because he’s just not. This means that narratively the story has no where to go. Or worse he becomes a passenger in his own movie. 2. Disney is all about discouraging those that have power from using it because they do t want ANYONE getting any ideas about changing the status quo. They are the representation of the greatest evil on the planet: incompetent greed. They can’t criticize those in power because those are their sycophants, money makers and protection. Those modern “heroes” are framed as good because they keep those in power in power. Sam’s speech to “do better” is basically saying “let those in charge figure out a better solution while the common people and those with superpowers wait and cater to them”. Sam isn’t grayer. He’s just less than Steve in every way. Bucky would’ve been the better choice.
Yeah. The whole “viewing the serum as a bad thing” was definitely not a good thing to do. Sam somewhat did well without it which was commendable…. BUUUT the minute he spoke out against the senators whom where just attacked by terrorists whom have not only destroyed many buildings, but killed MANY PEOPLE TOO, and terrorized people to get what they want, demanded that they not call THE TERRORISTS TERRORISTS and say that the terrorists didn’t do ANYTHING WRONG and that the senators “gotta do better”…. Not gonna lie, that was downright distasteful, and despicable. At least with Bucky, his excuse was that he was brainwashed for many years while Bucky might as well have turned himself in considering how guilty he feels. But Karli knew what the fuck she was doing, she willingly killed innocent people “for her cause”…. The flag smashers are terrorists, PERIOD…. And because of that terrible speech, MCU Sam lost my respect In him, and does not deserve the mantle of Captain America…. (Edit) Okay, he may have not said that the terrorists do anything wrong, but the fact is he was acting as if Karli was in the right during the situation, the fact is he still insisted that they stop calling the terrorists that were doing terrorists shit and few minutes ago tried to kill the senators “terrorists”. He might as well have said that the terrorists didn’t do anything wrong…
Right, getting brainwashed is a legitimate 'excuse' because he was not acting of his own will. Once The White Wolf was deprogrammed and rehabilitated, he was the only real choice to take the mantle; Steve's best friend since before the war, a commando in his own right, presumed dead in the line of duty, taken captive, given the serum and brainwashed, returning to fight defending the Earth...he more than earned it, plus nothing would be more appropriate than Steve;s best friend who believed in Steve back when he was a sickly 90 lb weakling
@@TalentMthiyaneI’ve learned these people just dislike Sam . For obvious reasons… They literally do mental gymnastics and straight up lie to make him seem like he was on the terrorists side. He was just trying to understand the conflict.
I agree 100%. The Sam Wilson character had a lot of potential as Falcon, but as Cap Sam Wilson was non-existent. when his film releases there will be a 4 year gap since the audience has seen him, why didn't he make appearances in other MCU shows and movies, especially if he is supposed to be one of the leaders of the Avengers? It feels like he is being thrown in because of their poor decision making with a certain character 2 years ago?
Falcon was already Falcon. There was no character arc by making him Cap. Bucky, however, needs to feel redeemed. Giving him the shield would have given him purpose.
I started reading Captain America in 1976 and my most prized toys were Mego Captain America and Falcon. Like my father, he fought in WWII. The Invaders were a favorite title of mine and I saw them use the "new Cap" trope. Spirit of '76, Patriot, John Walker, Bucky, and Falcon. It always returns to Steve Rogers. That's what made the Hydra Cap so ridiculous, is that Steve Rogers is incorruptible. Captain America is Steve Rogers, not because he was first, but because he WAS Captain America, even before he got the serum.
Around 7:30, you make the astute observation that the recent marvel movies seem to portray power gained by women is wielded virtuously, whereas power whelmed by men is at best ambiguous. I think that's a very perceptive read on the subtext of the films. I haven't seen several of them, so maybe it's said more explicitly by the films themselves, but I'm still impressed you put that together. I'm thankful for your channel. You've always got a perspective that I feel better for having heard through.
What do you mean? Black widow had no external power wielded by a woman. Just regular Natasha. No super powers Wanda's power in Wandavision is viewed as the literal start of her 2nd villain origin. she or rather her fired is the villain. Walker is redeemed while Karli who had the super soldier is irredeemable in FATWS. He Who Remains is a man who is the villain with super powers in Loki. In Shang Chi when the main character gets the 10 rings super powers it's viewed as virtuous In Eternals it's only when all of them including the white heterosexual man Ikaris uses their power together do they use it virtuously In NWH the MCU peter is given great power virtuously wielding it to help others at his own expense. I can name 2022, 2023, and 2024 MCU projects if you want but that's just not true that women get powers and use them for good while men get powers and use them for bad in the MCU.
@@Thed538dhsk It's curious that you seem to have an encyclopedic knowledge of these Disney movies, but you overlooked me plainly stating "I haven't seen several of them." The fact of the matter is, I have as much desire to watch and internalize these comic movies as I have to engage with random weirdos online. If you aren't being paid to white knight for Disney, I strongly encourage you to reconsider how you're spending your life. This is a lonely path you're taking. You may have the last word, but know that I won't read it. Your response is as trivial as these Disney movies are. Have a good life.
@@Thed538dhsk That isnt what he said. He said, that men were portrayed as being unworthy/misplaced as wielders of power, while women were always lauded or applauded as wielders of power. This is not them using it for good or bad, but deeper: It is about getting power and how this is portrayed. In Western Culture we have come to a point, where weakness and powerlessness of men are applauded and desired, while strength and power of women is applauded and desired. Again: It is not about who does what with the power they are given, but how they are portrayed when power is given to them.
@@PandaPanda-ud4ne Bless your heart, Panda. You're a better person than I am. Have a good Thanksgiving. People like you make the world a better place to be in, realtalk.
Seriously, you guys want the man who assassinated JFK, The Starks and other important figures to become Captain America, the public wouldn't stand for it, especially if John Walker(US Agent) got demoted for beheading a Flag Smasher, then Bucky would never get that role, maybe in the future someone maybe desperate and crazy enough to have him be the man, but until that day the moniker and role of Captain America is safe with Sam. Hey who knows he may retire and be the one to pass it on to Bucky, after he's put in some redemption work and gains positive public fame. But anyways I'm gonna watch the movie and enjoy it for what it's worth!
Sam's just a little boy in hand-me-down costume. I won't even mention the racism of implying that the most a black man can ever be is a shadow of the white hero
Yes, Sam does become Captain America in the comics and then Bucky becomes Captain America. Sam's tenure and Bucky's time as Captain America should be a story arc.
Steve didn’t side with a terrorist (winter soldier) , he believed in a childhood friend and another good man (Bucky). Sam’s character hasn’t shown a similar show of heart or faith under pressure.
Go back to the First Avenger and recall what Dr. Erskine said to Tommy Lee Jones's character. Steve was the only pick because he had no real power before and therefore understood what it means to be without it. A big, strong lad like Jones's pick (I don't recall his name) would have become cruel in the same way Red Skull did because the serum always amplifies the characteristics of whoever takes it. "Good becomes better and bad becomes worse." John Walker demonstrated undiagnosed PTSD and moreso was demonstrated as a frontrunner. He was the 21st century version of the Jones pick and the serum exacerbated his flaws. The fact that Sam wasn't tempted by the serum means he probably would have been fine if he took it, but he literally states in the trailer that he is not trying to be Steve Rogers, so we should probably stop expecting him to be.
That's the problem I'm seeing from the comments and the vid, everyone expects him to be like Steve, but he isn't. He's trying to be his own Captain America, using his own values and morals to be the man Steve *knew* he could be. And for some reason no one's getting that part.
Sam was perfectly fine as Falcon. Just because he doesn't wanna take the serum and is a good guy doesn't mean he should be the next Captain America. He worked so well because he helped people despite not being in the lead role. He's a great supporting character. There's nothing wrong with him continuing playing that role.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp But he doesn't need to stay in that role. Sam didn't get to be worthy, he's always been worthy. And his arc in FATWS isn't about him earning the mantle of the shield, it's about him fighting against everybody that thinks he didn't, including himself. He's proving to himself that he *CAN* be Captain America and that's exactly what he does. It's the same as Miles Morales proving to himself that he can be Spider-Man, different from Peter, but still a hero who understands "That with Great Power, There must also come Great Responsibility" and be a friendly neighborhood hero who helps out those in need. And that's what Sam Wilson's Captain America is. A good man with a good heart who wants to lend a helping hand to those in need, just like Steve in spirit, but clearly doing his own thing as Captain America.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Yet Steve doesn't try to help combat vets with their ptsd and help them integrate back into society out of the kindness of his heart. Sam does. Sam shares the same values as Steve, yes, but he also clearly has different views on how issues and situations should be approached, he tries to de-escalate a lot and I've never seen Steve do that all that much. Unless I'm forgetting somethings. Anyways, Sam having inherit goodness is a good trait because Captain America isn't about the powers, the shield or symbol, it's about being a good man and having empathy for your enemies, which Sam shows us by the end of FATWS by empathizing with the Flag Smashers and *why* they decided to take the actions that they did. And I'm not saying that I or Sam agree with what they did, but I'm saying that him empathizing with them and what caused them to go down this path is great example of him being a good man. And that's why he's the best person to be Cap.
They will allow Sam to do the same kind of feats that Steve Rogers did even though he does not have the physical ability to do it. That’s what will make it so frustrating.
Me personally, I'm already not a fan of legacy characters. If you were already a great sidekick turned hero in your own right then why do you need to take the name of someone else instead of building up your own name? If it's for marketing then that proves the writers don't have confidence in the character's own merit and they feel the need to steal the from a more popular character. And passing on a mantle kinda undercuts all the original character's original identity and personal reasons to wear that identity and turns them into just a costume. But Lady Thor is particularly egregious to me. Thor isn't a title, it's his real literally god given name. Imagine if every US president said they were the new George Washington. Moreover Thor isn't a comic book invention. He was a real mythological figure that was actually worshiped by historic people. Imagine if you met some one from 2000 years in the future and they said they loved our Jesus and Buddha characters, but they changed who they were and how were written to suit the values of the future audience.
The great thing about Sam Wilson is that he’s an ordinary person. He is not super intelligent or strong or wealthy, he’s just a guy. I like that and it makes him relatable. Also it’s great that he’s an African American because there aren’t many black superhero’s.
Sam's suits were made with Wakandan vibranium & technology, Sam's latest mostly blue suit will be based on the same technology within Okoye's Midnight Angel suit, enhancing Sam's physical abilities & granting him the ability to fly at higher speeds.
Actually I thought it was pretty cool that Sam didn’t have the serum. All of his fights would now have a sense of weight to them knowing that he can get killed like any normal guy. Plus I feel the vibranium wings, shield, tech, and ammunition would balance him. While Steve was super strong and more brute force, Sam is super fast and have more of a tactical approach to his captain American-ing lol
Sam Wilson is a good character, but they are trying to turn him into something he never was, a super-icon. Sam Wilson's charm was his everyday man appeal. He wasn't special, he wasn't pumped up on super soldier serum, he wasn't an icon of virtue, he was just a guy trying to the best he could with what he had (Mind you those wings are pretty handy). But now they are trying to make him into the iconic Captain America. That was Steve Rogers tale. A man easy to ignore but through his goodness of character rose to be a HUMBLE icon. The only kind of icon that can exist without turning despotic is one who is humble. THAT is Steve Rogers story. It doesn't fit with Sam's story and shouldn't be treated with the casual disregard for character that Marvel has shown with this decision. Sam was already the man he was meant to be...he doesn't need the transformation into an icon.
Steve Rogers was dedicated to his morals and values. Sam Wilson is just... morally superior... like every other modern post Infinity War super hero. Bucky was the more correct choice, with a better story-line for him. He was the guy steve looked up to, but now would have to try to live up to steve. He has his journey from being turned into a bad guy, and now looking to right the wrongs that he was forced to do. Its not a stretch to think that Bucky has the same values and morals as steve, seeing as they were best friends and come from the same time period. Bucky simply has a different drive motivating him due to his Winter Solder past. Being Capt's "sidekick" too, also just by default make him the sensible next in line. But of course... Marvel made it all about race. They wanted a black Captain America specifically. They made no attempt to hide that. Even bringing in the Isiah story like they did. As well as bringing in the aggressively milk toast white guy, John Walker, like they did to specifically show a "bad white guy captain", just so Sam would look better and more appropriate. It was all just over-the-top, and forced. Bucky was never in the running to Fiege. Despite checking all the boxes that should matter.
Honestly, they've been trying to make this whole "mantle" thing work for years. It becoming about race and gender is actually only a recent thing. When they tried replacing Batman with Jim Gordon or Cap with Bucky/John Walker in the comics people were similarly up in arms. The truth is these "mantles" aren't just interchangeable. You can't just take a superhero who fans know and love and just replace them with another person. Maybe if they're an unpopular character or there's major setup for it (Wally West, Blue Beetle, etc), but you can't take a character who has their own identity and just insert them into a preexisting role like this. It's like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
Captain America is Steve Rogers... Steve Rogers is Captain America! As for the Evans Cap movies, they are (out of all the mcu movies) perfect comic book to silver screen adaptations! From Caps origin story of the first, to the espionage political intrigue of the second, and then the "giant sized" annuals that brought together a rogues gallery of heroes and villians to wrap up the trilogy... simply perfect! The only others that come close to that level of perfection are the Holland Spidey films!
He's not a Super Soldier for one. He's like 5'10" 175. He cant duke it out with dudes like Batrok. Bucky is clearly a better choice from any angle. Except color. Why that matters is why most people dont care about Marvel anymore.
In the reality of the mcu, it wouldn’t make sense if the mantle of Captain America was given to a former nazi assassin. And yes Steve Roger was a super soldier, but his REAL strength is being able inspire others, encourage people into doing the right thing and to lift spirits even in the darkest of times. Cap is far from being the strongest avengers; most of them can obliterate him within seconds. Yet the avengers still choose to follow him, not because he fights pretty good, but because they see something in him, the same thing Steve saw in Sam. Also, I just wanted to point out that the way you talked about Sam just now is pretty similar in the way how Agent K talked about Steve pre serum in the first avenger.💀
@@danielleiva2670ur using too much logic. They don’t understand that caps entire role in the mcu is that he isn’t the strongest but he more than makes up for that with his willpower. Plus if they even cared to watch falcon and the winter soldier falcons super suit puts him on super soldier lvl at least. Dude literally caught a truck with his suit and took no damage from a helicopter falling on him. I could make a genuine argument he beats every super soldier on screen.
Haven't watched the video but read some comments. Seems weird that people have such a problem with Sam being Captain America in the comics 11 different people have been Captain America at some point including Sam.
And they suck and they are lame, and pale in comparison too. Just because it's in the comic, doesn't mean it's good. Copying major characters has been the hackiest gimmick for generations now.
Nah instead it shoulda been the guy the killed people for the better half of his life, who didn’t want the gig in the first place. Including starks parents. A lot of people talking about things they probably haven’t even read…real shame.
Whoever made this video has no clue, doesn't seem to have any knowledge of the comics, and the "philosophical" rational is weak. The serum made a 95 lbs weakling into a perfect physical specimen. Sam was born that way. The most important aspect of Captain America is his character. If you object to Sam because he isn't a super human, go cry about Batman. SMH
The whole shifting the "title" of the superhero needs to go. It's not a heavyweight title belt to be passed from person to person. Superman is Superman because of who and what he is. The same thing goes for iron Man, Captain, America and Thor. To give their title to someone else is to spit on both the original hero as well as all the fans.
For better or for worse, I have a feeling they'll brush by the power level by subtly increasing Sam's own power. He's not going to have to wrestle with the idea of taking the serum because his own abilities and tools with level him up. He'll have his vibranium suit + wings + Cap's shield, which means that his overall strength will be able to match up just under that of superpowered villains. Thus, whenever we question how a strong but ostensibly normal human could go toe to toe (or almost) with a supervillain, the answer will likely involve his suit. For all the problems that Marvel has had with Black Widow or Hawkeye, they have generally kept them grounded. I have a feeling this will not be the case with Sam.
Why r u comparing Sam to black widow or Hawkeye when he should be compared to black panther or iron man? Y’all want him to be street lvl so bad lmaooo Sam is no longer just a basic human with a few cool gadgets like Hawkeye or black widow. Hes in a full super suit power by vibranium and wakandan tech. Hes not meant to be grounded. The dude can take out missiles and planes with ease atp 😂😂😂
Sam's new wingnsuit was made by the Wakandans, which greatly enhances his human abilities. The suit is virtually indestructible and probably enhances Sam's physical abilities beyond what Steve Rodgers was physically capable.
Falcon has a super power, he's smart and knows how to fix and development his wing suit. He may not be Stark levels of smart, but he's a soldier, has a flying suit, and practiced the Shield. He will never be Steve, but he can be Captain America, because the title is a title, and can be wielded by anyone, really.
Rogers was THE hero of America's Greatest Generation in its biggest war. He paired and contrasted nicely with Falcon's modern values and perspective while sharing the same patriotism. But Falcon doesn't bring an extraordinary superpower, values or perspective that modern America needs. He's a side character who showcases how things are now, not what they ought to be.
I don't know how you tell the story of Sam Wilson without mentioning his time as Captain America. Being Cap has become a huge part of Sam's history in the comics. Sam is Marvel's first African American super hero. His role as Falcon is iconic. But he is a good Cap as well. So good, Steve personally asked Sam to wear the red white and blue alongside him.
Sam is the best choice to replace Steve. by process of elimination, we only have three choices: Bucky, John walker and Sam. Bucky just got pardoned and still has nightmares from his past life, so he's unstable. John walker has anger issue, a burning desire to prove his worth and is a rookie, i don't see a rookie being the leader of the avenger. And then Sam, a guy who has same ideals as Steve, the only difference is the serum. Mind you, not having the serum is the interesting part of Cap Sam because it gives more room on his power-ups... Also, Steve promoted U.S. Commando, while Sam will promote U.S. Air Force... The transition is beautiful to me.
"There has never been another Steve Rogers". This is a universally held belief in the fandom. The best and most appropriate choice would have been the Winter Soldier. That is as close as it can get to Steve, his best friend since before WWII who was in the elite Howling Commandos unit that Steve was assigned to after he freed them from that Hydra prison. Bucky is also a super soldier. Sam was a more recent friend and went from huffing and puffing as Steve passed him repeatedly to taking his place as Cap. The math is far too weak and smells like a DEI decision despite has solid acting abilities. After a Winter Soldier worked alongside Bucky for a few years then had to move on? Sure. Maybe. He still isn't a super soldier but suddenly he can do what a super soldier can.
Dwayne McDuffie spoke about this very thing...why is it cool when Batman fights Superman and can dodge Darkseid's omega beams but Sam a human with no powers as well it's seen as impossible. I think him being a human defying the odds is what makes Sam Wilson as Cap work for me.
I agree with the points that you raised in your video. Sam Wilson is a great character. However I feel like you overlooked a vital component. Every character in phases one through three are iconic. Everyone that hears the name Captain America instantly thinks about Steve Rogers. Likewise with Iron Man , the mind jumps to Tony Stark. Or Spider Man and Peter Parker. The look of the characters and how they walk and talk is so iconic that it can’t be switched without making a new character. Those names are not simply mantles to be passed around like a pair of shoes , those names are literally the identity of the characters. Even more for Thor. Thor Odonson is his actual name, so forcefully putting the powers into a woman makes zero sense. That’s why people call her “ female Thor” not “ Mighty Thor” because the identity of the Mighty Thor is already filled by the original. No substitutions or copycats or knock-offs accepted.
Imo it's clear why they made sam the new cap over bucky and honestly I don't see why cap would give up being a hero in the first place as it feels out of character to me. Falcon is one of many great black superhero's, instead of propping them up they just slap on a white characters name with a half cocked explanation or just rewrite the character all together while adding feats or powers to try and convince you it's better this way. Insulting in my opinion.
Here's one of the reasons I love Captain America, and will never really accept anyone but Steve Rogers behind the shield: his fictitious story helped shape a real one. Most people don't know or understand that the Scouting movement has its own awards system for valor, and Scouting has its own Audie Murphy/Smedley Butler. His name is George Oldroyd and he was my Scoutmaster. George was a disabled kid who was later partially paralyzed after he broke his back in a car wreck, and then taught himself to walk again using titanium-hinged braces on his legs and feeling for the sensation of the ground underfoot in his knees. And yet, even though he was already the most-decorated Scout lifesaver in history when that happened, no one had heard about him because he never worked the kind of PR magic that makes people famous. He went on to receive two Honor Medals after his accident, both for fighting dangerous fires with the prospect for an explosion, and the last one in front of a nursing home. He was so gravely injured that he lost a leg and nearly went blind, which is horrifying since, as a pituitary giant, he is already going deaf. For that one he received the Honor Medal with Crossed Palms, the highest award made by the B.S.A. National Court of Honor for valor, as well as receiving a bar for his Bronze Cross for Gallantry from the B-P Scout Movement in the U.K. He had already received it one other time, but that makes him the only one to receive the Honor Medal twice since it was first constituted in 1923, and the only one to receive the top valor award from Scouting in two different countries. If you ask him who his early insirations were, he'll tell you about Captain America, Batman, Luke Skywalker, and his firefighter father. But as an Eagle Scout he always loves Captain America. He has a proud jingoistic streak and makes no apologies for flying the Betsy Ross flag in front of his home, or for wearing it on his uniform. Cap matters. Steve Rogers example matters. Without it, the sheer tonnage of lives that might not have been spared because George Oldroyd didn't stick his neck out to save them is unknowable. How many others took similar inspiration?
I think your getting it wrong. It's yet another scene that builds up Steve as a man. Sam is pretty much saying that though Steve was not corrupted by the power he can't be sure he has the fortitude to not be corrupted himself. I think it's ironic, because in the Winter Soldier they set him up to be just as virtuous as Steve.
Once again Nerdword, another video that makes one think for a bit. I must admit, this comment wasn't a smooth one to write out. I was thinking about what you said while typing, so there were a couple of stops and starts. First off, I'm not going to see this movie. I've watched the trailer twice...nope. Second, Sam Wilson as Falcon was awesome. However, when it came to "Captain America", it feels like Sam became a discount version of himself. I'm not going to lie, that monologue he said in 'Falcon & The Winter Soldier' looks more and more like "THE MESSAGE." Thank you for bringing up the point of how Marvel (and others) have tried to make men having power bad but women having it as a good thing. Here's my question to you. How should screenwriters, writers, directors tackle the issue of power in their stories? Until recently, it was universally accepted that power can be corrosive depending on the person. I view power the same way as money and fire: not in itself bad but placed in the wrong hands, damage can be done.
Bravo. I am impressed that you speak like someone who has something thoughtful to say & not just someone trying to crank out another video to post on yootoobe. I listened with genuine interest because I wanted to hear your point of view, your opinion & that is sadly rare on most YT videos. Very well done. It made me excited to listen to your other videos so please keep up what you are doing, never doubt that you do have genuine fans.
Oh no. We’re just silently watching and judging. It honestly makes me sad how ill informed some of these comments are. Like missing THE MAIN THEME of what captain America is supposed to be. Basic shit. But cool I’ll just keep watching people tell me how captain America needs to be “strong.”
I think you misunderstand that talk that Sam had with a senator. He wasn't talking about the rights of terrorists. He was talking about what they were doing with millions of people around the world, deciding on who got what and who lived where with total dispassion. The story was imperfect. But I got it. I think you also don't see the suit that he's wearing for what it is. If you go back and look at the avengers assemble cartoon, his new wakanda suit is more like that one. He's a mini iron Man in that costume now.
I think you misunderstud the message of power. It's not that power wielded by a man is bad and by a woman good. The idea was that when Steve took the serum and thus power he did to help others so it was good. What Sam feared was that he would do it for the wrong reasons like Walker did so it would corrupt him. I agree that the new Captain America movie would probably suck. And when it suck, people won't go see it, and the movie flops. And they again call people racist biggots for not seeing it, not understandin that people liked the character (and the actor playing him) before so they weren't racist then and haven't suddently become one, the movie just suck now.
Your commentary is interesting, but it ignores a key plot point from the first Cap movie. The super soldier serum doesn't simply provide a physical boost. It serves as an amplifier that dials up behavioural traits that already exist. The whole reason Steve Rogers was selected was his mental and emotional attributes, not his combat skills. The reason subject selection was so important was so that they did NOT end up with Red Skull or John Walker. It's possible that Sam Wilson didn't have any emotional baggage and that the serum wouldn't adversely impact him, but it's equally possible that it could. All the caution and discretion displayed in the first movie to find the RIGHT test subject went out the window after that. Everybody seemingly forgot that the side effect of the serum was that it could turn you into a super-powered rage monster, and they started talking about handing out the serum like candy on Halloween. I agree with everything you said about the new generation of Marvel heroes, and that Sam Wilson without super powers simply can't be Captain America as most people envision the character.... but in canon, Sam's decision to reject the serum and his fear of how it might "corrupt" him are rational. The serum DOES amplify your strongest instincts whether that is to help people, protect the innocent, punish evil or control the world. Sam isn't rejecting power because of some misled view that power is evil. Sam is rejecting the very REAL possibility that embracing that particular kind of power may mean altering his personality in a way he may not like... and for THAT reason, his decision makes sense, even if it means there will never be another Cap.
5:50 - I agree with you. It's like Jordan Peterson says: You should be a monster, an absolute monster, and then you should learn how to control it. It's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war. If you are not a formidable force, there’s no morality in your self-control. If you are incapable of violence, not being violent isn’t a virtue. Steve Rogers was capable of great violence. And he wasn't naive; he knew it. And then ... he made his choices with compassion.
Finally. Thank you! It's good fans are speaking up abt this. The direction Disney has taken the MCU has been DISASTROUS. James Barnes was the RIGHT and logical choice to be Captain America. He has decades of experience, skill, most importantly, he's a super soldier and he was Steve Rogers' closest friend. It's also the order that was taken in the comics, Barnes was Captain America. But if you notice the MCU is cutting corners. They're showing Wilson as if he does have powers. From throwing the shield exactly like Rogers, to the super hero landing seen in the trailer. Both are impossible for a man with no augmentation. Becasue making Wilson CA was a DEI decision, not a reasoned one.
Tbh this is why ill never be into 'the sidekick inherits the mantle' gimmick, not saying it can't be done it's just never written as well. u can't just switch up a sidekick character who are typically meant to be the balancing contrast to the main hero and we only ever know him as that and just be like "he's HIM now" as if its just a costume I honestly think Bucky should have taken the mantle, he has the super serum, he's been through a hell of a lot more going from being a murderer under mind control that nobody trusted to redeeming himself as a hero while trying deal with the guilt, not to mention he had the same upbringing as Steve, He really would have had a greater and more satisfying ark to become Captain America. For some reason I just always imagined his shiney silver arm with a blue star while holding the shield on his right would be a prestine Capt America look,
There's alot of videos prematurely pooping on this movie, and of course everyone is entitled to thier opinion. I'm excited and looking forward to the new Captain America movie and willl judge it for myself when i see it. The MCU is following the Comics, in which Sam Wilson is just as much Captain America when it was his time, as Steve Rogers was when it was his time. Steve Rogers himself deemed Sam Wilson worthy to be the next Captain America and so I'm looking forward to how this arc continues to unfolds. Just my two cents ✌️
The appeal of Steve Rogers is that he’s from an era of WWII and understanding first hand battles that killed 10s of thousands at a time. He was innocent and brave. Sam doesn’t have that perspective. I do love the preview when he’s told you’re no Steve Rogers and he says “No, I’m not”. The fact that he understood that makes it all okay. It’s like when they rebooted Star Trek. What made it awesome was A. New time line so new outcomes and B. Chris Pine consciously decided not to imitate William Statner’s Kirk. I hope the new Cap is different
Tony was childish and self-centred, but his heart was always in the right place...He never had any enhanced physical abilities and yet is probably the best superhero portrayal by the MCU...As long as the script is right, Sam will make a great Capt. America
Hit the nail right on the head. Steve Rogers represented an America confident in its ideals, flawed but striving. Sam can't work as Cap because he represents what America has become, seeing only the flaws and rejecting the ideals. Of course Sam can't take the serum, he believes America is fundamentally flawed and inherently evil. If given the choice he would not preserve America, he would fundamentally change it. And that's the saddest part of the failure of the race swap, which could have been beautiful, edifying, and ultimately unifying. But maybe it's the perfect metaphor, as Steve represented a vanished America, Sam represents our lost America. Not the Cap we need, but the Cap we want.
I’ve said this on multiple occasions. Falcon was one of my favorite MCU characters…until he got his own series. That being said, I don’t want to see him as “Cap”.
So Sam can’t become the MCU analogue for Batman. With Wakandan tech, U.S.Military resources and Shield intelligence an already military trained man can’t believably headline a franchise? Yet Hawkeye lives. This seems like a Black American can’t be recognized as the symbol of America.😞
"You gotta do better, wilson!" To be fair, sam jn the comics, sam was kinda rough as cap at first too but as he is now, he's pretty great. He's no Steve but once the writers stopped trying to make him Steve he felt better to me
Lots of comments about people having not read the comics. I started collecting Captain America since 1980, and every time they tried to replace Steve Rogers, I stopped reading. The clothes do not make the man. Superman is a hero because he was raised by Jonathan and Martha Kent in Smallville, Kansas. The comic book arc where John Walker is introduced as “Super Patriot” before being offered the job as Cap by the government after Steve quit in protest is proof. In the comics, Walker recognizes that he can never live up to the legacy of Steve Rogers as he succumbs to the urges of rage and retribution. Steve always gets the shield back because he is Captain America. It isn’t the shield, or the costume, or the serum, it’s the character, the man. I don’t think it’s racist or sexist to think that.
I got into it in the comments of another video because I pointed out that physically, Sam is just a regular guy and has no business being CA. They already made him implausible when he was first training to be CA and he suddenly could throw that shield around at 100 MPH with deadly accuracy. He isn't BELIEVABLE as the character and that undermines everything about the movie. And they are saying now that he will be getting a vibranium suit to address the strength issue and allow him to fight Red Hulk. If this is true, I understand why the movie is testing terribly and they are continually rewriting it.
WHO IS THIS VIDEO FOR? Sam Wilson became Captain America in Marvel Comics BACK in 2015, wearing the same outfit that we see now have in the MCU version. And he is STILL one of two active Captain America's in the comics today, and is the one presently IN THE AVENGERS. As for the movie, it hasn't come out yet. And the Disney series did a great job of showing that Sam Wilson didn't want to be Captain America at first because he didn't feel worthy. Again, WHO IS THIS VIDEO FOR?
I think the big problem is that Marvel downgraded the hero by handing Cap's mantle to Sam, not because Sam isn't a good person, but because the writers downgraded what Cap stands for. With Steve Rogers, Cap stands for ideals, and not just American ones, but universal ones. He represents grit, endurance, heart, and noble virtues like patriotism, nobility, and kindness. Sam is being written to represent an ideology, (post-modernism), that wants to deconstruct institutions, beliefs, and systems. That's why refusing power feels so off the mark, (questioning the righteous use of force to solve problems) and why his speeches are short and defending the wrong party, (the terrorists.) This version of Cap didn't work in the comics and won't work in the films either because post-modern deconstruction leads to writers who dislike America, don't like the military, don't think superheroes are heroic, or that what being a hero is all about equates to what you're born with, not what you choose to be. That's the downgrade.
Before the show came out, whenever I brought up that I didn't want The Falcon as Captain America, I was accused of being racist, but there are 2 problems with that: I'm half Black and I'm a fan of The Falcon in the comics and the movies! I hate his new look and having him handle that shield without the serum makes no sense. We saw Bucky get thrown through the side of a train while trying to weild it, how is Sam supposed to be any better? He was fine as his own character who wasn't trying to live up to Rogers.
Captain America is not about Power. Hulk is stronger than Cap, Thor is stronger than Cap, Strange's magic makes him stronger. It's the MAN. Erskine could've given that formula to anyone, but he found something in Steve Rogers. A Measured man, Self Sacrifice, the ability to use his mind and his heart over braun. In return, Steve could've given the shield to anyone, why Sam? I believe he saw the same things in Sam, that Erskine saw in him. The king who doesn't want to be king. A reluctant hero.
It feels like you missed the whole point of Captain America. It’s the man that makes him… Sam has that new Vibranium suit and shield. Not to mention he’s been Cap in the comics for a good long run.
Marvel comics went through this same period of race and gender washing in the 2010's, and it was just as transparent as what the MCU has been doing of late. My real frustration is that it was Bucky who was experience identity issues, struggling to put Winter Soldier behind him, and it was Bucky who should've taken the shield, not Sam. But we all now why Sam got it.
In the comics the first time Steve Roger was killed the mantle was passed down to Bucky, this makes way more sense, not only because the personal connection with Steve and the fact he is also a super soldier, it would've been a way more impactful redemption arc for him to go from an assassin of hydra to the MCU symbol of Justice, Bucky is just so under utilized in the MCU, it's almost as if Disney hates sebastian stan as at one point star wars fans thought he would make a great Luke Skywalker and even show pictures that show that physically he does resemble Mark Hamill to a point and with some make up and cgi touches they could've made Luke come back for other movies or tv show, Sebastian stated he would be love to do that role....instead they went for deepfaking Luke's face. And yes I am aware that in the comics when Bucky was given the captain america mantle by someone else and when it was Sam's turn Steve personally gave it to him, people love to use this as proof that Sam is more worthy of the role because Steve personally choose him, but 1. the circumstances of each passing were different and 2. just because one recieved the mantle from the orignal doesn't make him more worthy than the other, but for me personally Bucky will always make more sense because of the super soldier serum.
In the 80's, even Marvel realized that having a hero that owes his abilities to drugs was a terrible idea. The serum was removed from his system and he re-trained himself to be just as good as he was before. There has only ever been one problem with heroes like Sam Wilson, She Hulk, or Lady Thor, and it's not diversity. It's studio interference with the way they are written and who is writing for them.
To me, what makes Steve’s decision to help Bucky infinetly more understandable than Sam, is that Bucky was at least Brainwashed, literally mind controlled. Sam on the other hand just feels like the writers inserting their Twitter talk into the script.
I had thought that Bucky's Winter Soldier redemptive arc meant that HE was going to take on the mantle of Cptn America (which he does in the comics... as does Falcon), but perhaps that was even to morally questionable given his a ctions (even forced, through mind control).
I struggled a bit making this video because I almost felt like I was being disloyal. I really like Sam, he one of the reasons that phase 2 and 3 of the MCU were so good. I loved his dynamic with Steve and Nat and Bucky and I wanted to see more of it. I desperately want to know what the team got up to in the two years they were on the run/stationed in Wakanda. I feel kind of robbed because we didn't see it. That would have been a really neat tv show or even just its own separate films.
Additionally, if we wanted to see more Steve, the entire five years of "the blip" should have been its own phase on its own. I wish that avenue had been explored. And now, unless there is some sort of a hard reboot which I'm sure if I'm in favour of, we'll never see it. Of course Chris Evans is totally disconnected from the MCU right now, but I would wholeheartedly take him back if we could.
Anyway, something I didn't talk about much in this video is Sam's suit. I'm mean, its glaringly obvious that his head isn't covered and he doesn't have the super soldier serum to protect it when he takes a direct hit. The vibranium shield and wings might stop a missile, but they certainly aren't going to protect Sam from the sheer force that a hit like that should generate. They are having him do stunts that we're accustomed to seeing from super soldiers and Sam just isn't one.
Sam was chosen solely by DEI
GREAT NERDWORD AND THE PROBLEM WITH SAM WILLIAMS
That’s the thing. As they have already shown in the D+ show, the story will have him be just as strong and impervious as he needs to be when the plot demands, so the whole “he refused power when offered” will itself be a red herring. They will make him play the full part of a superhero even if he’s not technically supposed to be one. Like Natasha in her solo outing.
Yes, it would be nice if choices and actions had consequences.
Don't feel bad, it's just who you are! White people like you love to complain, especially about fictional stuff that has no bearing in the real world! People in the real world are losing their lives, and this is what you want to focus on!
Good analysis.
What I wanted to see was a team-up between Cap and Falcon, like in the comics (at least for a while) and focused on their friendship and teamwork. Cap represented the Army, Falcon the Air Force, and they worked together to get things done. Also, Sam is his own man, he doesn't need Cap's title nor shield to give him some sort of validation; it's kind of insulting, really.
Why are we acting like Sam wasn't captain America in the comics? It's not like Marvel just made Sam captain America out of nowhere.
Sam Wilson: You're going after him.
Steve Rogers: You don't have to come...
Sam Wilson: I know. When do we start?
That is character. Power.
I wouldn't give Sam extra points for the "when we start"... Sam literally had nothing else to do, but for example, Hawkeye does the same thing, he's going to fight for what's right and he has a family to lose, and in fact he loses his family at one point, luckily he got them back even though he still loses his best friend in Natasha, when Steve meets Sam he had nothing to lose, no family, no girdfriend, and apparently he didn't even have friends, i would have thought that he hav friends in his "former air combat unit", but that was never talked about.
@@mcruz4571 The unit all died
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@@mcruz4571 There is not point to talking about Sam's life when it would have messed up the pacing of the story. Sam has friends and likely female friends as he has been known to have dated some of the more powerful heroes.
Should have been Bucky. That Bucky Cap run is great. Had lots of potential for a onscreen adaptation
I feel like I’m the only one who thinks they both could’ve been cap. Imo that would’ve been cool to see. 2 active caps both bffs with the original carrying on his mantle.
@@kingmanga8575 That could have worked too
bucky in mcu is a killer....imagine making a known assassin into americas symbol.yeah, not a great plan
One, no super power. Two trying to be somebody else. He should be Falcon, not Capt America.
Rumor is Anthony Mackie agrees with you, he wanted Sam to stay as the Falcon.
@@PFiction24 Rumor, good if true.
The thing is Sam isn't trying to be someone else. He is still Sam. What happens is that Sam holds the same values as Steve. That's why Steve chose him to be the New Captain América.
And let's not forget this was an actual storyline in the comics in the... 70's?
The difference is of course Steve Rogers returned to be Cap in the comics.
But yes. Sam Wilson is the Falcon and a darn good one.
@@Akkatlah How much can values bench? smh
I agree that sam is a great falcon. That's who he should have stayed.
EXCELLENT NERDWORD WORK. 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉
You're right BUT, Cap passed the torch
Why?
And Sam rejected it, and then got jealous when someone else had it
@@Mrmumps-tb4no no he didn't got jealous stupid
Sam Wilson is the best Falcon. His bond-like gadgetry was cool touch. That being said, he doesn't have the same presence as Steve Rogers. He feels like a hero trying to be a different hero. It didn't really work out in the comics either. It was a sign that the golden age of comics was dying.
Sam Wilson is Falcon just like Miles Morales is Miles Morales.
The "you've gotta do better Senator" its one of the funniest cringiest memes of the MCU for me, its so bad that everytime anyone brings that up i die laughing
Yea the argument has a couple fallacies, Sam not taking the serum doesn’t mean Steve Rogers isn’t a good man or virtuous. It’s like you being someone who drinks and i don’t. That doesn’t make you bad it’s just something that isn’t for me.
Sam will be a good cap. we just have to let him do his thing and not compare them to Steve.
A person who can look at a situation and look for the good within the ideology is smart one. Black Panther did the same with Killmonger. His ideology was flawed but wasn’t necessarily wrong.
Exactly 💯
A grade B Cap ,,,
That is missing the point. It's not about refusing something that was given to another character, it's about *why* Sam refused it.
Why would someone choose not to drink while others do? Is it because they are a recovering alcoholic? Are they afraid of becoming an alcoholic?
Sam choosing not to take the serum because he is afraid of being corrupted it by it tells us that accepting power is bad, even though there are plenty of other characters who did - mainly female characters recently. The question she's asks is why is it good for female heroes to accept power but bad when male heroes do it?
@@archentity Do you even live in this world. When men get power we often get stupid. I don't think it has anything to do with gender or who receives the power, but just his choice to want to do what he can the best way he can. There are police officers who have access to a lot of non-standard items but refuse them because they don't want the presence of military while trying to patrol a school or other family events.
@stevenking3060 Power only reveals what a person always was. Steve shows that. I'm sure a character at one point even said that the serum only makes you more of what you already are. It's just weird to see that when a male receives an Avenger's mantle, accepting power is a bad thing - even though they have so many examples of it being a good thing with female characters who receive the mantle.
The problem is the writers don't seem to grasp Sam is just a dude in a suit, he isn't a super soldier, that was an important part of Steve's character and skill set.
Hell just wielding the shield would be borderline impossible for Sam as even if the thing only weighs like 5 pounds, throwing and catching that thing constantly in battle will reduce your arm to a limp noodle in minutes due to the extreme strain on a persons's muscles.
Steve avoid that due to the Serum essentially preventing muscle fatigue as well as greatly enhanced strength
That was a good point.
It is physically impossible for anyone to do what is done with the Captain America shield. Even if you have super strength. It is not rubber. How does it bounce? It's crazy how people suddenly get their physics degree when a black man is the superhero.
@@joelhenry5489 shield is made of vibranium, that weird metal that can store kinetic energy and release it...and has a lot of other properties too.
@@PandaPanda-ud4ne Did yall even watch falcon and the winter soldier? That’s not just any suit. It’s made of vibraium. Sam has literally lifted a truck with his suit and tanked a heliport falling on him with no damage. He is easily just as strong if not stronger than cap.
Natasha is just a woman in a suit, so is Hawkeye, so is Iron Man.
There's only one difference, and everyone can see what that is.
If you're having trouble seeing this, let me know, and I'll explain it to like i would a 5 year old.
For me, its simply Falcon isn't as interesting as Bucky
I agree. Sam as Falcon was already a great thing. He had the world's respect as Falcon. Him taking over as Cap feels unnecessary, or at least how Marvel is playing it. Bucky has a far more interesting character arc with a greater tie to Steve Rogers.
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Facts. The whole set on ice for 70 years wouldn't work with Sam, because well racism LOL... But yeah, Roger's story is awesome!
I have said this before in other comment sections, and I'll say it again here. Bucky should have been given the shield instead of Sam. Bucky knows Steve's character better than anyone else in the entire MCU. He knows why Steve is the perfect man to be Captain America. He knows he isn't worthy. Donning the mantle of Captain America would have been an act of contrition for him, penance for his actions as the Winter Soldier. What's more, Steve knows who Bucky really at his core. They could have also had Bucky use the shield defensively, never throwing it offensively like Steve did, in a way to highlight the inner struggles of how much Bucky holds on to the memories of his only real friend and that the shield is a symbol he knows he can never live up to. They could explore Bucky being more violent than Steve but trying to be a better man despite his own flaws. It would have added a stark comparison to the man that Steve was instead of the less noble, but not really flawed Sam Wilson in the MCU.
Both the first Captain America movies and second Captain America movie literally foreshadow Bucky becoming Captain America when he picks up his sheild.
The thing is Bucky was Captain America in the comics before Sam Wilson. But they decided to just make Sam Wilson Captain America because it was a newer comics during when Endgame came out.
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This isn't true Sam has worked with Steve longer than Bucky
Difficult to say. Honestly, Bucky is kind of a war criminal ... They touched upon that in the show I think, but it would have been weird for him to suddenly become the symbol of peace imo 😅
@ Black Widow was brainwashed assassin as well but nobody complains about her breaking away from being brainwashed and being an assassin and instead becoming a superhero.
Yet people have a problem Bucky doing the same.
In the movie 'End Game', it was Rogers who chose Sam and didn't choose Bucky and he agreed with him. So you're basically saying Steve Rogers made a mistake... All your post did was make me want to see this movie even more, so THANK YOU...
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The idea behind the serum is giving power revealed someone's true character. Steve remained a good man. Even with Peter Parker (spider bite, not serum), he became cocky at first. But then he learned "with great power..."
It is weird that Sam (and the writers) forgot what made Steve Rogers special.
Just about every superhero that's written goes through a humbling experience that makes them relatable and it's their reaction to it that makes them a hero or not. The difference was Steve was already humbled before he got the serum. He was undersized and grew up with a number of health issues. Spiderman was humbled with his uncle's/aunt's/MJ's death (depending on which universe). John Walker struggled because he had spent so much time before the serum being a strong success at everything he did. Captain Marvel is difficult to relate to because her humbling experience doesn't seem as personal. It was more about man keeping women caged, let me out, hear me roar and is quite played out. She-Hulk never really seemed like she was humbled at all on a personal level and tried to paint all sorts of sleights against women in general as her humbling experience and proceeded to be a know-it-all which no one cares for. It's why no one really cares for that character and the actress even more.
Steve was special, but the new serum corrupted even good people. Sam never tried to be Steve, he simply follows his morals of giving people a chance
Steve got cocky like Peter Parker, too, in Captain America: The First Avenger. People seem to forget that happened.
It wasn't the serum I can tell you that much
@@MRF1983 What I remember is that Steve was basically used as a cheerleader or propaganda tool by the government instead of being sent to war. That changed when he went on a rogue rescue mission to save Bucky. Maybe there was a part where Steve got cocky somewhere. I'd have to rewatch.
7:31 it’s funny because John Walker ended up being a sympathetic strawman as the TH-camr Loomar said. What he did was questionable but not even undeniably bad. He is not a bad guy. He is just portrayed as bad to the protagonists. Anyway please go watch Loomar’s video on him it’s great.
I mean, I can see what you're saying, but he also did kill somebody using the shield. No matter the circumstances, that's still not a great look morally or politically and especially considering the mantle he was representing.
@@nerdword07 Plenty of other Heroes in the MCU have killed before, and it's not fair to solely condemn some for their actions while at their lowest
How would have Steve treated Tony if he had successfully killed Bucky?
Feel so bad for John, he was honestly more heroic than Sam in the finale 💀💀
@@nerdword07 He did exactly what a soldier should do. The man was a danger to everyone in the area, and John had to stop him. He had already killed Lemar, and there was no indication he wouldn't kill again. Several seconds earlier in the scene, that same super soldier threw a concrete slab at John that would have harmed the civilians behind him had John not blocked it with the shield.
That Terrorist needed to be stopped; he was a threat to the innocent civilians around him. John had no way to restrain him, nor was the Terrorist in any cooperative mood. One hit from him could kill a normal person instantly. John, in the middle of an active combat zone, had every right to act the way he did. Both as a soldier and in self-defence.
Morally, he was justified in killing a terrorist to ensure the safety of the people. Politically, that was a known terrorist with the super soldier serum. Effectively making him a living weapon capable of and has commited mass murder. Certainly justifiable in the rules of engagement.
@@nerdword07 true tho, but cap doesn't represent the moral of not killing like Batman does. He is a soldier after all.
But the issue with Walker is a bad writing, and even worse message. Terrorists should not be glorified or sympathiesed.
Narratively I admit Sam earned the shield Old Man Rogers gave him. However, I wonder if Endgame's ending was natural instead of manufactured for a pre-approved conclusion if Steve Rogers, as Bucky's best friend, would've saw that Bucky needed the shield.
Decades prior Bucky was physically holding Captain America's shield in his hands until a Hydra henchman blasted him out of Hydra's train and away from the shield. He's held onto the shield multiple times afterwards but every time since WWII, using the shield defensively, he's wielded the shield as a weapon. Bucky as the Winter Soldier used offensive weapons for each appearance following his last scene within Captain America The First Avenger. Arm included. As of this moment, for the foreseeable future, he will evidently continue packing an arsenal of weapons. I don't believe this future is ideal.
Bucky's entire future was derailed from the moment he picked up Captain America's shield for the first time but it was neither his nor the shield's fault.
If Captain America gave his shield to Bucky, this act could've begun a transformative journey clearly missing from the MCU now. I keep hearing how Sam Wilson is already the perfect person for Captain America. Which is true since he's a static character whose remained the same throughout his appearances until Falcon and the Winter Soldier. That's why I believe there's more of a story in handing the shield over to someone who would immediately confess he's not a good man if offered the shield. I hear explanations revolving around how Bucky's currently unworthy when each phase 1 superhero experienced a similar character story arc before transforming into heroes. Sam's hesitancy was, in continuity, unfounded during Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Sam Wilson would've tried as he promised immediately upon accepting Captain America's new shield. That's why I believe he earned that shield while Bucky needed the broken original. The same shield Captain America carried is the one which belonged to Bucky and once repaired two Captain Americas could taken Steve Roger's place.
I agree. Bucky should have been the next captain America. It would have been the perfect redemption journey for him.
He let TERRORISTS go because they were misunderstood. Not a friend that he knew for 70+ years that was impersonated by a terrorist. He just said "government bad do better" because some ginger girl was mad they couldn't magically have more money after a universal threat was righted. I barely liked his as Falcon and he's never gonna fill ocean deep shoes like Captain America's
People were dying from preventable diseases in the camps stablished by the council while the senators spent time talking amongst themselves. Comments like yours can only be Said by those who have never had to struggle in their lives.
Steve didn't know Bucky for 70+ years. Bucky and steve were frozen for most of that time.
What do you want Sam to say? Steve gave "do better" speeches in winter soldier and civil war.
Ginger girl or Karli wanted the people she cared for to be given vaccines, teachers, and supplies that they needed. Wouldn't you want your loved ones to have those too if they needed them?
Why did you dislike him as falcon?
Why will he never fill the ocean sized shoes for you?
Bruh you've pissed some off with this comment.
@FriendlyBatDoom who is pissed off. I just see great polite disagreements
Ugh the terrorist died
"Falcon and the Winter Soldier" is very invested in this idea that Steve is the only one with incorruptible "morals" but....Bucky was never corrupted by the serum, Bucky was brainwashed by Hydra.
I think we all know why Sam was picked as the replacement over Bucky.
“The role of Captain America was the only one not handed to a woman”
But we have seen female Captain America in the form of Peggy. In fact Peggy has seen more appearances as Captain America is than Sam
The biggest issues I see are twofold:
1. Sam is already a “good man” but ultimately that makes him very dull and flat as a character. He has no real potential for growth and that fear of taking power sounds more like a lack of desire for responsibility he probably knows he can’t handle. Sam isn’t a leader. He never was and never will be. No one follows him. He can’t be inspiring because he’s just not. This means that narratively the story has no where to go. Or worse he becomes a passenger in his own movie.
2. Disney is all about discouraging those that have power from using it because they do t want ANYONE getting any ideas about changing the status quo. They are the representation of the greatest evil on the planet: incompetent greed. They can’t criticize those in power because those are their sycophants, money makers and protection. Those modern “heroes” are framed as good because they keep those in power in power. Sam’s speech to “do better” is basically saying “let those in charge figure out a better solution while the common people and those with superpowers wait and cater to them”. Sam isn’t grayer. He’s just less than Steve in every way. Bucky would’ve been the better choice.
Yeah. The whole “viewing the serum as a bad thing” was definitely not a good thing to do. Sam somewhat did well without it which was commendable…. BUUUT the minute he spoke out against the senators whom where just attacked by terrorists whom have not only destroyed many buildings, but killed MANY PEOPLE TOO, and terrorized people to get what they want, demanded that they not call THE TERRORISTS TERRORISTS and say that the terrorists didn’t do ANYTHING WRONG and that the senators “gotta do better”…. Not gonna lie, that was downright distasteful, and despicable. At least with Bucky, his excuse was that he was brainwashed for many years while Bucky might as well have turned himself in considering how guilty he feels. But Karli knew what the fuck she was doing, she willingly killed innocent people “for her cause”…. The flag smashers are terrorists, PERIOD…. And because of that terrible speech, MCU Sam lost my respect In him, and does not deserve the mantle of Captain America….
(Edit) Okay, he may have not said that the terrorists do anything wrong, but the fact is he was acting as if Karli was in the right during the situation, the fact is he still insisted that they stop calling the terrorists that were doing terrorists shit and few minutes ago tried to kill the senators “terrorists”. He might as well have said that the terrorists didn’t do anything wrong…
Right, getting brainwashed is a legitimate 'excuse' because he was not acting of his own will. Once The White Wolf was deprogrammed and rehabilitated, he was the only real choice to take the mantle; Steve's best friend since before the war, a commando in his own right, presumed dead in the line of duty, taken captive, given the serum and brainwashed, returning to fight defending the Earth...he more than earned it, plus nothing would be more appropriate than Steve;s best friend who believed in Steve back when he was a sickly 90 lb weakling
why must you lie like this "say that the terrorists didn’t do ANYTHING WRONG" he never said that, he says those labels stop people from asking why!
Did you listen to the speech ? Also those « terrorists » were a result of the government ignoring those people’s needs and human rights.
@@TalentMthiyaneI’ve learned these people just dislike Sam . For obvious reasons… They literally do mental gymnastics and straight up lie to make him seem like he was on the terrorists side. He was just trying to understand the conflict.
@@kingmanga8575 Its unbelievable
“On your Left” says it all. Sam cannot be Captain America, even with all the quality of character he possesses. It’s not enough.
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Who cares. It's a movie 🙄
I agree 100%. The Sam Wilson character had a lot of potential as Falcon, but as Cap Sam Wilson was non-existent. when his film releases there will be a 4 year gap since the audience has seen him, why didn't he make appearances in other MCU shows and movies, especially if he is supposed to be one of the leaders of the Avengers? It feels like he is being thrown in because of their poor decision making with a certain character 2 years ago?
Falcon was already Falcon. There was no character arc by making him Cap. Bucky, however, needs to feel redeemed. Giving him the shield would have given him purpose.
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Steve's actions to protect bucky was due to his knowledge that bucky was under mind control and therefore innocent of his crimes.
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I started reading Captain America in 1976 and my most prized toys were Mego Captain America and Falcon. Like my father, he fought in WWII. The Invaders were a favorite title of mine and I saw them use the "new Cap" trope. Spirit of '76, Patriot, John Walker, Bucky, and Falcon. It always returns to Steve Rogers. That's what made the Hydra Cap so ridiculous, is that Steve Rogers is incorruptible. Captain America is Steve Rogers, not because he was first, but because he WAS Captain America, even before he got the serum.
Around 7:30, you make the astute observation that the recent marvel movies seem to portray power gained by women is wielded virtuously, whereas power whelmed by men is at best ambiguous.
I think that's a very perceptive read on the subtext of the films. I haven't seen several of them, so maybe it's said more explicitly by the films themselves, but I'm still impressed you put that together.
I'm thankful for your channel. You've always got a perspective that I feel better for having heard through.
What do you mean? Black widow had no external power wielded by a woman. Just regular Natasha. No super powers
Wanda's power in Wandavision is viewed as the literal start of her 2nd villain origin. she or rather her fired is the villain.
Walker is redeemed while Karli who had the super soldier is irredeemable in FATWS.
He Who Remains is a man who is the villain with super powers in Loki.
In Shang Chi when the main character gets the 10 rings super powers it's viewed as virtuous
In Eternals it's only when all of them including the white heterosexual man Ikaris uses their power together do they use it virtuously
In NWH the MCU peter is given great power virtuously wielding it to help others at his own expense.
I can name 2022, 2023, and 2024 MCU projects if you want but that's just not true that women get powers and use them for good while men get powers and use them for bad in the MCU.
@@Thed538dhsk It's curious that you seem to have an encyclopedic knowledge of these Disney movies, but you overlooked me plainly stating "I haven't seen several of them."
The fact of the matter is, I have as much desire to watch and internalize these comic movies as I have to engage with random weirdos online.
If you aren't being paid to white knight for Disney, I strongly encourage you to reconsider how you're spending your life. This is a lonely path you're taking.
You may have the last word, but know that I won't read it. Your response is as trivial as these Disney movies are. Have a good life.
@@Thed538dhsk That isnt what he said. He said, that men were portrayed as being unworthy/misplaced as wielders of power, while women were always lauded or applauded as wielders of power. This is not them using it for good or bad, but deeper: It is about getting power and how this is portrayed. In Western Culture we have come to a point, where weakness and powerlessness of men are applauded and desired, while strength and power of women is applauded and desired. Again: It is not about who does what with the power they are given, but how they are portrayed when power is given to them.
@@PandaPanda-ud4ne Bless your heart, Panda. You're a better person than I am.
Have a good Thanksgiving. People like you make the world a better place to be in, realtalk.
@@math925 Thanks! You too, man, enjoy your turkey!
Seriously, you guys want the man who assassinated JFK, The Starks and other important figures to become Captain America, the public wouldn't stand for it, especially if John Walker(US Agent) got demoted for beheading a Flag Smasher, then Bucky would never get that role, maybe in the future someone maybe desperate and crazy enough to have him be the man, but until that day the moniker and role of Captain America is safe with Sam. Hey who knows he may retire and be the one to pass it on to Bucky, after he's put in some redemption work and gains positive public fame. But anyways I'm gonna watch the movie and enjoy it for what it's worth!
Fucking. This.
Yes I agree, I would like to Bucky as cap, but I could only see that happening if Sam dies or something (which I don’t want to happen lol)
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Bucky & Steve's relationship goes deep. They were practically family. Steve defending him makes sense to me.
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Sam's just a little boy in hand-me-down costume. I won't even mention the racism of implying that the most a black man can ever be is a shadow of the white hero
You just did racist 👍🏼
@ralphangel561 Hollywood did the racism, I simply mentioned it ✌🏻
Yes, Sam does become Captain America in the comics and then Bucky becomes Captain America. Sam's tenure and Bucky's time as Captain America should be a story arc.
reverse that order and you mostly got it correct
The writing of Marvel movies since 'Captain America: The First Avenger' has ranged from deeply flawed to insultingly pathetic.
Steve didn’t side with a terrorist (winter soldier) , he believed in a childhood friend and another good man (Bucky). Sam’s character hasn’t shown a similar show of heart or faith under pressure.
i feel like i’m going crazy while reading this comics. none of y’all understand steve or sam as characters. bye
Go back to the First Avenger and recall what Dr. Erskine said to Tommy Lee Jones's character. Steve was the only pick because he had no real power before and therefore understood what it means to be without it. A big, strong lad like Jones's pick (I don't recall his name) would have become cruel in the same way Red Skull did because the serum always amplifies the characteristics of whoever takes it. "Good becomes better and bad becomes worse."
John Walker demonstrated undiagnosed PTSD and moreso was demonstrated as a frontrunner. He was the 21st century version of the Jones pick and the serum exacerbated his flaws.
The fact that Sam wasn't tempted by the serum means he probably would have been fine if he took it, but he literally states in the trailer that he is not trying to be Steve Rogers, so we should probably stop expecting him to be.
That's the problem I'm seeing from the comments and the vid, everyone expects him to be like Steve, but he isn't. He's trying to be his own Captain America, using his own values and morals to be the man Steve *knew* he could be. And for some reason no one's getting that part.
@@windghost2I disagree. I've seen so many comments saying Sam deserves the shield because he shares a lot in common with Steve.
Sam was perfectly fine as Falcon. Just because he doesn't wanna take the serum and is a good guy doesn't mean he should be the next Captain America. He worked so well because he helped people despite not being in the lead role. He's a great supporting character. There's nothing wrong with him continuing playing that role.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp But he doesn't need to stay in that role.
Sam didn't get to be worthy, he's always been worthy. And his arc in FATWS isn't about him earning the mantle of the shield, it's about him fighting against everybody that thinks he didn't, including himself.
He's proving to himself that he *CAN* be Captain America and that's exactly what he does.
It's the same as Miles Morales proving to himself that he can be Spider-Man, different from Peter, but still a hero who understands "That with Great Power, There must also come Great Responsibility" and be a friendly neighborhood hero who helps out those in need.
And that's what Sam Wilson's Captain America is. A good man with a good heart who wants to lend a helping hand to those in need, just like Steve in spirit, but clearly doing his own thing as Captain America.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Yet Steve doesn't try to help combat vets with their ptsd and help them integrate back into society out of the kindness of his heart.
Sam does.
Sam shares the same values as Steve, yes, but he also clearly has different views on how issues and situations should be approached, he tries to de-escalate a lot and I've never seen Steve do that all that much.
Unless I'm forgetting somethings.
Anyways, Sam having inherit goodness is a good trait because Captain America isn't about the powers, the shield or symbol, it's about being a good man and having empathy for your enemies, which Sam shows us by the end of FATWS by empathizing with the Flag Smashers and *why* they decided to take the actions that they did.
And I'm not saying that I or Sam agree with what they did, but I'm saying that him empathizing with them and what caused them to go down this path is great example of him being a good man.
And that's why he's the best person to be Cap.
They will allow Sam to do the same kind of feats that Steve Rogers did even though he does not have the physical ability to do it. That’s what will make it so frustrating.
Me personally, I'm already not a fan of legacy characters. If you were already a great sidekick turned hero in your own right then why do you need to take the name of someone else instead of building up your own name? If it's for marketing then that proves the writers don't have confidence in the character's own merit and they feel the need to steal the from a more popular character. And passing on a mantle kinda undercuts all the original character's original identity and personal reasons to wear that identity and turns them into just a costume.
But Lady Thor is particularly egregious to me. Thor isn't a title, it's his real literally god given name. Imagine if every US president said they were the new George Washington. Moreover Thor isn't a comic book invention. He was a real mythological figure that was actually worshiped by historic people. Imagine if you met some one from 2000 years in the future and they said they loved our Jesus and Buddha characters, but they changed who they were and how were written to suit the values of the future audience.
The great thing about Sam Wilson is that he’s an ordinary person. He is not super intelligent or strong or wealthy, he’s just a guy. I like that and it makes him relatable.
Also it’s great that he’s an African American because there aren’t many black superhero’s.
Sam's suits were made with Wakandan vibranium & technology, Sam's latest mostly blue suit will be based on the same technology within Okoye's Midnight Angel suit, enhancing Sam's physical abilities & granting him the ability to fly at higher speeds.
Well, that does solve the no powers issue.
@@KaiHouston-m6j Not really. Shuri still needed the heart shaped herb to be Black Panther. Her tech, her brilliance and skill didn't get her there.
@@tastytreats6195 Yes a Super power was needed as well. I don't think you have a point. You just want to argue.
Actually I thought it was pretty cool that Sam didn’t have the serum. All of his fights would now have a sense of weight to them knowing that he can get killed like any normal guy. Plus I feel the vibranium wings, shield, tech, and ammunition would balance him. While Steve was super strong and more brute force, Sam is super fast and have more of a tactical approach to his captain American-ing lol
Sam Wilson is a good character, but they are trying to turn him into something he never was, a super-icon. Sam Wilson's charm was his everyday man appeal. He wasn't special, he wasn't pumped up on super soldier serum, he wasn't an icon of virtue, he was just a guy trying to the best he could with what he had (Mind you those wings are pretty handy). But now they are trying to make him into the iconic Captain America. That was Steve Rogers tale. A man easy to ignore but through his goodness of character rose to be a HUMBLE icon. The only kind of icon that can exist without turning despotic is one who is humble. THAT is Steve Rogers story. It doesn't fit with Sam's story and shouldn't be treated with the casual disregard for character that Marvel has shown with this decision. Sam was already the man he was meant to be...he doesn't need the transformation into an icon.
Steve Rogers was dedicated to his morals and values.
Sam Wilson is just... morally superior... like every other modern post Infinity War super hero.
Bucky was the more correct choice, with a better story-line for him. He was the guy steve looked up to, but now would have to try to live up to steve. He has his journey from being turned into a bad guy, and now looking to right the wrongs that he was forced to do. Its not a stretch to think that Bucky has the same values and morals as steve, seeing as they were best friends and come from the same time period. Bucky simply has a different drive motivating him due to his Winter Solder past. Being Capt's "sidekick" too, also just by default make him the sensible next in line.
But of course... Marvel made it all about race. They wanted a black Captain America specifically. They made no attempt to hide that. Even bringing in the Isiah story like they did. As well as bringing in the aggressively milk toast white guy, John Walker, like they did to specifically show a "bad white guy captain", just so Sam would look better and more appropriate. It was all just over-the-top, and forced. Bucky was never in the running to Fiege. Despite checking all the boxes that should matter.
Honestly, they've been trying to make this whole "mantle" thing work for years. It becoming about race and gender is actually only a recent thing. When they tried replacing Batman with Jim Gordon or Cap with Bucky/John Walker in the comics people were similarly up in arms. The truth is these "mantles" aren't just interchangeable. You can't just take a superhero who fans know and love and just replace them with another person. Maybe if they're an unpopular character or there's major setup for it (Wally West, Blue Beetle, etc), but you can't take a character who has their own identity and just insert them into a preexisting role like this. It's like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
Sam doesn't quite have the same issues you outline with the other examples. I still have confidence the character is appropriate in the role.
I just think Sam Wilson was already a hero as the Falcon. He didn't need the moniker of Captain America.
Captain America is Steve Rogers... Steve Rogers is Captain America!
As for the Evans Cap movies, they are (out of all the mcu movies) perfect comic book to silver screen adaptations! From Caps origin story of the first, to the espionage political intrigue of the second, and then the "giant sized" annuals that brought together a rogues gallery of heroes and villians to wrap up the trilogy... simply perfect! The only others that come close to that level of perfection are the Holland Spidey films!
He's not a Super Soldier for one. He's like 5'10" 175. He cant duke it out with dudes like Batrok.
Bucky is clearly a better choice from any angle. Except color.
Why that matters is why most people dont care about Marvel anymore.
In the reality of the mcu, it wouldn’t make sense if the mantle of Captain America was given to a former nazi assassin. And yes Steve Roger was a super soldier, but his REAL strength is being able inspire others, encourage people into doing the right thing and to lift spirits even in the darkest of times. Cap is far from being the strongest avengers; most of them can obliterate him within seconds. Yet the avengers still choose to follow him, not because he fights pretty good, but because they see something in him, the same thing Steve saw in Sam. Also, I just wanted to point out that the way you talked about Sam just now is pretty similar in the way how Agent K talked about Steve pre serum in the first avenger.💀
@@danielleiva2670ur using too much logic. They don’t understand that caps entire role in the mcu is that he isn’t the strongest but he more than makes up for that with his willpower.
Plus if they even cared to watch falcon and the winter soldier falcons super suit puts him on super soldier lvl at least. Dude literally caught a truck with his suit and took no damage from a helicopter falling on him. I could make a genuine argument he beats every super soldier on screen.
Haven't watched the video but read some comments. Seems weird that people have such a problem with Sam being Captain America in the comics 11 different people have been Captain America at some point including Sam.
And they suck and they are lame, and pale in comparison too. Just because it's in the comic, doesn't mean it's good. Copying major characters has been the hackiest gimmick for generations now.
Super weird
Nah instead it shoulda been the guy the killed people for the better half of his life, who didn’t want the gig in the first place.
Including starks parents.
A lot of people talking about things they probably haven’t even read…real shame.
Whoever made this video has no clue, doesn't seem to have any knowledge of the comics, and the "philosophical" rational is weak. The serum made a 95 lbs weakling into a perfect physical specimen. Sam was born that way. The most important aspect of Captain America is his character. If you object to Sam because he isn't a super human, go cry about Batman. SMH
The whole shifting the "title" of the superhero needs to go. It's not a heavyweight title belt to be passed from person to person. Superman is Superman because of who and what he is. The same thing goes for iron Man, Captain, America and Thor. To give their title to someone else is to spit on both the original hero as well as all the fans.
For better or for worse, I have a feeling they'll brush by the power level by subtly increasing Sam's own power. He's not going to have to wrestle with the idea of taking the serum because his own abilities and tools with level him up.
He'll have his vibranium suit + wings + Cap's shield, which means that his overall strength will be able to match up just under that of superpowered villains. Thus, whenever we question how a strong but ostensibly normal human could go toe to toe (or almost) with a supervillain, the answer will likely involve his suit.
For all the problems that Marvel has had with Black Widow or Hawkeye, they have generally kept them grounded.
I have a feeling this will not be the case with Sam.
Why r u comparing Sam to black widow or Hawkeye when he should be compared to black panther or iron man?
Y’all want him to be street lvl so bad lmaooo
Sam is no longer just a basic human with a few cool gadgets like Hawkeye or black widow. Hes in a full super suit power by vibranium and wakandan tech. Hes not meant to be grounded. The dude can take out missiles and planes with ease atp 😂😂😂
Sam's new wingnsuit was made by the Wakandans, which greatly enhances his human abilities. The suit is virtually indestructible and probably enhances Sam's physical abilities beyond what Steve Rodgers was physically capable.
Falcon has a super power, he's smart and knows how to fix and development his wing suit. He may not be Stark levels of smart, but he's a soldier, has a flying suit, and practiced the Shield.
He will never be Steve, but he can be Captain America, because the title is a title, and can be wielded by anyone, really.
Rogers was THE hero of America's Greatest Generation in its biggest war.
He paired and contrasted nicely with Falcon's modern values and perspective while sharing the same patriotism.
But Falcon doesn't bring an extraordinary superpower, values or perspective that modern America needs. He's a side character who showcases how things are now, not what they ought to be.
I don't know how you tell the story of Sam Wilson without mentioning his time as Captain America. Being Cap has become a huge part of Sam's history in the comics. Sam is Marvel's first African American super hero. His role as Falcon is iconic. But he is a good Cap as well. So good, Steve personally asked Sam to wear the red white and blue alongside him.
I love how those gigantic 10ft wide metal wings just disappear into his tiny backpack
Sam is the best choice to replace Steve. by process of elimination, we only have three choices: Bucky, John walker and Sam. Bucky just got pardoned and still has nightmares from his past life, so he's unstable. John walker has anger issue, a burning desire to prove his worth and is a rookie, i don't see a rookie being the leader of the avenger. And then Sam, a guy who has same ideals as Steve, the only difference is the serum. Mind you, not having the serum is the interesting part of Cap Sam because it gives more room on his power-ups... Also, Steve promoted U.S. Commando, while Sam will promote U.S. Air Force... The transition is beautiful to me.
"There has never been another Steve Rogers". This is a universally held belief in the fandom. The best and most appropriate choice would have been the Winter Soldier. That is as close as it can get to Steve, his best friend since before WWII who was in the elite Howling Commandos unit that Steve was assigned to after he freed them from that Hydra prison. Bucky is also a super soldier.
Sam was a more recent friend and went from huffing and puffing as Steve passed him repeatedly to taking his place as Cap. The math is far too weak and smells like a DEI decision despite has solid acting abilities. After a Winter Soldier worked alongside Bucky for a few years then had to move on? Sure. Maybe. He still isn't a super soldier but suddenly he can do what a super soldier can.
It IS a DEI thing. The most frustrating thing about this is that many people don't know that Bucky held the shield a decent time before Sam ever did.
Dwayne McDuffie spoke about this very thing...why is it cool when Batman fights Superman and can dodge Darkseid's omega beams but Sam a human with no powers as well it's seen as impossible. I think him being a human defying the odds is what makes Sam Wilson as Cap work for me.
When did he say he wanted to be capn America? drop the actor syndrome
I agree with the points that you raised in your video. Sam Wilson is a great character. However I feel like you overlooked a vital component. Every character in phases one through three are iconic. Everyone that hears the name Captain America instantly thinks about Steve Rogers. Likewise with Iron Man , the mind jumps to Tony Stark. Or Spider Man and Peter Parker. The look of the characters and how they walk and talk is so iconic that it can’t be switched without making a new character. Those names are not simply mantles to be passed around like a pair of shoes , those names are literally the identity of the characters. Even more for Thor. Thor Odonson is his actual name, so forcefully putting the powers into a woman makes zero sense. That’s why people call her “ female Thor” not “ Mighty Thor” because the identity of the Mighty Thor is already filled by the original. No substitutions or copycats or knock-offs accepted.
Imo it's clear why they made sam the new cap over bucky and honestly I don't see why cap would give up being a hero in the first place as it feels out of character to me. Falcon is one of many great black superhero's, instead of propping them up they just slap on a white characters name with a half cocked explanation or just rewrite the character all together while adding feats or powers to try and convince you it's better this way. Insulting in my opinion.
Here's one of the reasons I love Captain America, and will never really accept anyone but Steve Rogers behind the shield: his fictitious story helped shape a real one.
Most people don't know or understand that the Scouting movement has its own awards system for valor, and Scouting has its own Audie Murphy/Smedley Butler. His name is George Oldroyd and he was my Scoutmaster.
George was a disabled kid who was later partially paralyzed after he broke his back in a car wreck, and then taught himself to walk again using titanium-hinged braces on his legs and feeling for the sensation of the ground underfoot in his knees. And yet, even though he was already the most-decorated Scout lifesaver in history when that happened, no one had heard about him because he never worked the kind of PR magic that makes people famous.
He went on to receive two Honor Medals after his accident, both for fighting dangerous fires with the prospect for an explosion, and the last one in front of a nursing home. He was so gravely injured that he lost a leg and nearly went blind, which is horrifying since, as a pituitary giant, he is already going deaf.
For that one he received the Honor Medal with Crossed Palms, the highest award made by the B.S.A. National Court of Honor for valor, as well as receiving a bar for his Bronze Cross for Gallantry from the B-P Scout Movement in the U.K. He had already received it one other time, but that makes him the only one to receive the Honor Medal twice since it was first constituted in 1923, and the only one to receive the top valor award from Scouting in two different countries.
If you ask him who his early insirations were, he'll tell you about Captain America, Batman, Luke Skywalker, and his firefighter father.
But as an Eagle Scout he always loves Captain America. He has a proud jingoistic streak and makes no apologies for flying the Betsy Ross flag in front of his home, or for wearing it on his uniform.
Cap matters. Steve Rogers example matters. Without it, the sheer tonnage of lives that might not have been spared because George Oldroyd didn't stick his neck out to save them is unknowable.
How many others took similar inspiration?
I think your getting it wrong. It's yet another scene that builds up Steve as a man.
Sam is pretty much saying that though Steve was not corrupted by the power he can't be sure he has the fortitude to not be corrupted himself.
I think it's ironic, because in the Winter Soldier they set him up to be just as virtuous as Steve.
Your videos are good but you literally sound like you are just reading the script you typed out. It sounds robotic
Once again Nerdword, another video that makes one think for a bit. I must admit, this comment wasn't a smooth one to write out. I was thinking about what you said while typing, so there were a couple of stops and starts.
First off, I'm not going to see this movie. I've watched the trailer twice...nope. Second, Sam Wilson as Falcon was awesome. However, when it came to "Captain America", it feels like Sam became a discount version of himself. I'm not going to lie, that monologue he said in 'Falcon & The Winter Soldier' looks more and more like "THE MESSAGE."
Thank you for bringing up the point of how Marvel (and others) have tried to make men having power bad but women having it as a good thing. Here's my question to you. How should screenwriters, writers, directors tackle the issue of power in their stories? Until recently, it was universally accepted that power can be corrosive depending on the person. I view power the same way as money and fire: not in itself bad but placed in the wrong hands, damage can be done.
Bravo. I am impressed that you speak like someone who has something thoughtful to say & not just someone trying to crank out another video to post on yootoobe. I listened with genuine interest because I wanted to hear your point of view, your opinion & that is sadly rare on most YT videos. Very well done. It made me excited to listen to your other videos so please keep up what you are doing, never doubt that you do have genuine fans.
Soooo....I see none of yall have read the comics
It’s bugging me this is the only comment on that 🤣😂
Oh no. We’re just silently watching and judging. It honestly makes me sad how ill informed some of these comments are. Like missing THE MAIN THEME of what captain America is supposed to be.
Basic shit. But cool I’ll just keep watching people tell me how captain America needs to be “strong.”
There have been 16 different people to hold the mantle of Captain America, including Sam and multiple women. He'll be fine.
Thor's role wasn't transferred to a woman. Jane temporarily got powers from Mjolnir, then died. Thor is still Thor.
I think you misunderstand that talk that Sam had with a senator. He wasn't talking about the rights of terrorists. He was talking about what they were doing with millions of people around the world, deciding on who got what and who lived where with total dispassion. The story was imperfect. But I got it. I think you also don't see the suit that he's wearing for what it is. If you go back and look at the avengers assemble cartoon, his new wakanda suit is more like that one. He's a mini iron Man in that costume now.
I think you misunderstud the message of power. It's not that power wielded by a man is bad and by a woman good. The idea was that when Steve took the serum and thus power he did to help others so it was good. What Sam feared was that he would do it for the wrong reasons like Walker did so it would corrupt him.
I agree that the new Captain America movie would probably suck. And when it suck, people won't go see it, and the movie flops. And they again call people racist biggots for not seeing it, not understandin that people liked the character (and the actor playing him) before so they weren't racist then and haven't suddently become one, the movie just suck now.
Your commentary is interesting, but it ignores a key plot point from the first Cap movie. The super soldier serum doesn't simply provide a physical boost. It serves as an amplifier that dials up behavioural traits that already exist. The whole reason Steve Rogers was selected was his mental and emotional attributes, not his combat skills. The reason subject selection was so important was so that they did NOT end up with Red Skull or John Walker.
It's possible that Sam Wilson didn't have any emotional baggage and that the serum wouldn't adversely impact him, but it's equally possible that it could. All the caution and discretion displayed in the first movie to find the RIGHT test subject went out the window after that. Everybody seemingly forgot that the side effect of the serum was that it could turn you into a super-powered rage monster, and they started talking about handing out the serum like candy on Halloween.
I agree with everything you said about the new generation of Marvel heroes, and that Sam Wilson without super powers simply can't be Captain America as most people envision the character.... but in canon, Sam's decision to reject the serum and his fear of how it might "corrupt" him are rational. The serum DOES amplify your strongest instincts whether that is to help people, protect the innocent, punish evil or control the world.
Sam isn't rejecting power because of some misled view that power is evil. Sam is rejecting the very REAL possibility that embracing that particular kind of power may mean altering his personality in a way he may not like... and for THAT reason, his decision makes sense, even if it means there will never be another Cap.
5:50 - I agree with you. It's like Jordan Peterson says: You should be a monster, an absolute monster, and then you should learn how to control it. It's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war. If you are not a formidable force, there’s no morality in your self-control. If you are incapable of violence, not being violent isn’t a virtue.
Steve Rogers was capable of great violence. And he wasn't naive; he knew it. And then ... he made his choices with compassion.
Finally. Thank you! It's good fans are speaking up abt this. The direction Disney has taken the MCU has been DISASTROUS. James Barnes was the RIGHT and logical choice to be Captain America. He has decades of experience, skill, most importantly, he's a super soldier and he was Steve Rogers' closest friend. It's also the order that was taken in the comics, Barnes was Captain America. But if you notice the MCU is cutting corners. They're showing Wilson as if he does have powers. From throwing the shield exactly like Rogers, to the super hero landing seen in the trailer. Both are impossible for a man with no augmentation. Becasue making Wilson CA was a DEI decision, not a reasoned one.
Tbh this is why ill never be into 'the sidekick inherits the mantle' gimmick, not saying it can't be done it's just never written as well. u can't just switch up a sidekick character who are typically meant to be the balancing contrast to the main hero and we only ever know him as that and just be like "he's HIM now" as if its just a costume
I honestly think Bucky should have taken the mantle, he has the super serum, he's been through a hell of a lot more going from being a murderer under mind control that nobody trusted to redeeming himself as a hero while trying deal with the guilt, not to mention he had the same upbringing as Steve, He really would have had a greater and more satisfying ark to become Captain America. For some reason I just always imagined his shiney silver arm with a blue star while holding the shield on his right would be a prestine Capt America look,
There's alot of videos prematurely pooping on this movie, and of course everyone is entitled to thier opinion. I'm excited and looking forward to the new Captain America movie and willl judge it for myself when i see it. The MCU is following the Comics, in which Sam Wilson is just as much Captain America when it was his time, as Steve Rogers was when it was his time. Steve Rogers himself deemed Sam Wilson worthy to be the next Captain America and so I'm looking forward to how this arc continues to unfolds. Just my two cents ✌️
The appeal of Steve Rogers is that he’s from an era of WWII and understanding first hand battles that killed 10s of thousands at a time. He was innocent and brave. Sam doesn’t have that perspective. I do love the preview when he’s told you’re no Steve Rogers and he says “No, I’m not”. The fact that he understood that makes it all okay. It’s like when they rebooted Star Trek. What made it awesome was A. New time line so new outcomes and B. Chris Pine consciously decided not to imitate William Statner’s Kirk. I hope the new Cap is different
He should have been renamed Captain Falcon
Tony was childish and self-centred, but his heart was always in the right place...He never had any enhanced physical abilities and yet is probably the best superhero portrayal by the MCU...As long as the script is right, Sam will make a great Capt. America
Sam is Captain America.. No one has to like or accept it.. Steve chose him!! It won't change the FACT!!
Hit the nail right on the head. Steve Rogers represented an America confident in its ideals, flawed but striving. Sam can't work as Cap because he represents what America has become, seeing only the flaws and rejecting the ideals. Of course Sam can't take the serum, he believes America is fundamentally flawed and inherently evil. If given the choice he would not preserve America, he would fundamentally change it. And that's the saddest part of the failure of the race swap, which could have been beautiful, edifying, and ultimately unifying. But maybe it's the perfect metaphor, as Steve represented a vanished America, Sam represents our lost America. Not the Cap we need, but the Cap we want.
I’ve said this on multiple occasions. Falcon was one of my favorite MCU characters…until he got his own series.
That being said, I don’t want to see him as “Cap”.
So Sam can’t become the MCU analogue for Batman. With Wakandan tech, U.S.Military resources and Shield intelligence an already military trained man can’t believably headline a franchise? Yet Hawkeye lives. This seems like a Black American can’t be recognized as the symbol of America.😞
They made Sam so self righteous since becoming Cap and it sickens me. As Falcon he was humble and human.
"You gotta do better, wilson!" To be fair, sam jn the comics, sam was kinda rough as cap at first too but as he is now, he's pretty great. He's no Steve but once the writers stopped trying to make him Steve he felt better to me
Lots of comments about people having not read the comics. I started collecting Captain America since 1980, and every time they tried to replace Steve Rogers, I stopped reading. The clothes do not make the man. Superman is a hero because he was raised by Jonathan and Martha Kent in Smallville, Kansas. The comic book arc where John Walker is introduced as “Super Patriot” before being offered the job as Cap by the government after Steve quit in protest is proof. In the comics, Walker recognizes that he can never live up to the legacy of Steve Rogers as he succumbs to the urges of rage and retribution. Steve always gets the shield back because he is Captain America. It isn’t the shield, or the costume, or the serum, it’s the character, the man. I don’t think it’s racist or sexist to think that.
I got into it in the comments of another video because I pointed out that physically, Sam is just a regular guy and has no business being CA. They already made him implausible when he was first training to be CA and he suddenly could throw that shield around at 100 MPH with deadly accuracy. He isn't BELIEVABLE as the character and that undermines everything about the movie. And they are saying now that he will be getting a vibranium suit to address the strength issue and allow him to fight Red Hulk. If this is true, I understand why the movie is testing terribly and they are continually rewriting it.
WHO IS THIS VIDEO FOR?
Sam Wilson became Captain America in Marvel Comics BACK in 2015, wearing the same outfit that we see now have in the MCU version. And he is STILL one of two active Captain America's in the comics today, and is the one presently IN THE AVENGERS. As for the movie, it hasn't come out yet. And the Disney series did a great job of showing that Sam Wilson didn't want to be Captain America at first because he didn't feel worthy. Again, WHO IS THIS VIDEO FOR?
It's good to see your subs on the rise. I'm rooting for you.
I think the big problem is that Marvel downgraded the hero by handing Cap's mantle to Sam, not because Sam isn't a good person, but because the writers downgraded what Cap stands for. With Steve Rogers, Cap stands for ideals, and not just American ones, but universal ones. He represents grit, endurance, heart, and noble virtues like patriotism, nobility, and kindness. Sam is being written to represent an ideology, (post-modernism), that wants to deconstruct institutions, beliefs, and systems. That's why refusing power feels so off the mark, (questioning the righteous use of force to solve problems) and why his speeches are short and defending the wrong party, (the terrorists.) This version of Cap didn't work in the comics and won't work in the films either because post-modern deconstruction leads to writers who dislike America, don't like the military, don't think superheroes are heroic, or that what being a hero is all about equates to what you're born with, not what you choose to be. That's the downgrade.
Before the show came out, whenever I brought up that I didn't want The Falcon as Captain America, I was accused of being racist, but there are 2 problems with that: I'm half Black and I'm a fan of The Falcon in the comics and the movies! I hate his new look and having him handle that shield without the serum makes no sense. We saw Bucky get thrown through the side of a train while trying to weild it, how is Sam supposed to be any better? He was fine as his own character who wasn't trying to live up to Rogers.
Captain America is not about Power. Hulk is stronger than Cap, Thor is stronger than Cap, Strange's magic makes him stronger. It's the MAN. Erskine could've given that formula to anyone, but he found something in Steve Rogers. A Measured man, Self Sacrifice, the ability to use his mind and his heart over braun. In return, Steve could've given the shield to anyone, why Sam? I believe he saw the same things in Sam, that Erskine saw in him. The king who doesn't want to be king. A reluctant hero.
It feels like you missed the whole point of Captain America. It’s the man that makes him…
Sam has that new Vibranium suit and shield. Not to mention he’s been Cap in the comics for a good long run.
It’s still trash 😅
Marvel comics went through this same period of race and gender washing in the 2010's, and it was just as transparent as what the MCU has been doing of late. My real frustration is that it was Bucky who was experience identity issues, struggling to put Winter Soldier behind him, and it was Bucky who should've taken the shield, not Sam. But we all now why Sam got it.
In the comics the first time Steve Roger was killed the mantle was passed down to Bucky, this makes way more sense, not only because the personal connection with Steve and the fact he is also a super soldier, it would've been a way more impactful redemption arc for him to go from an assassin of hydra to the MCU symbol of Justice, Bucky is just so under utilized in the MCU, it's almost as if Disney hates sebastian stan as at one point star wars fans thought he would make a great Luke Skywalker and even show pictures that show that physically he does resemble Mark Hamill to a point and with some make up and cgi touches they could've made Luke come back for other movies or tv show, Sebastian stated he would be love to do that role....instead they went for deepfaking Luke's face.
And yes I am aware that in the comics when Bucky was given the captain america mantle by someone else and when it was Sam's turn Steve personally gave it to him, people love to use this as proof that Sam is more worthy of the role because Steve personally choose him, but 1. the circumstances of each passing were different and 2. just because one recieved the mantle from the orignal doesn't make him more worthy than the other, but for me personally Bucky will always make more sense because of the super soldier serum.
In the 80's, even Marvel realized that having a hero that owes his abilities to drugs was a terrible idea. The serum was removed from his system and he re-trained himself to be just as good as he was before. There has only ever been one problem with heroes like Sam Wilson, She Hulk, or Lady Thor, and it's not diversity. It's studio interference with the way they are written and who is writing for them.
This isnt an original story. This is adaptation of a comic. Falcon being Captain America is comic accurate. Hit the source material.
To me, what makes Steve’s decision to help Bucky infinetly more understandable than Sam, is that Bucky was at least Brainwashed, literally mind controlled. Sam on the other hand just feels like the writers inserting their Twitter talk into the script.
I had thought that Bucky's Winter Soldier redemptive arc meant that HE was going to take on the mantle of Cptn America (which he does in the comics... as does Falcon), but perhaps that was even to morally questionable given his a ctions (even forced, through mind control).