The Rewatchables: ‘Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade’ | The Most Fun Indy Movie in the Series?
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- The Ringer’s Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey dust off their hats and ready their whips for an adventure once more as they discuss Steven Spielberg’s ‘Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade,’ starring Harrison Ford, Sean Connery, Alison Doody, and River Phoenix.
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1:18:49 you're welcome
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Thank you!!!!!!!
Where is Bill getting the idea that Temple of Doom was a misstep or that people didn't like it? It was number two at the box office that year trailing only Ghostbusters. It beat out Gremlins for number two by a wide margin. It blew Beverly Hills Cop, Footloose, and The Karate Kid , clean out of the water. It was a colossal hit that only fell slightly short of Raiders box office numbers.
it's the bullshit that keeps getting repeated now
This is the worst re-watchable I have seen. I love The Last Crusade, but this episode is terrible.
They just seem so uninformed…
How did you all forget the best line in the movie? "We named the Dog Indiana"
ADD THIS MASTERPIECE TO THE WAYNE JENKINS SUPERCUT.
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Alison Doody in this movie is a 11/10. I don't know what they are talking about, she is amazing and made fall in love with hot Austrians as a kid.
Heh, Doody.
this. a million times, one of the hottest chicks in movies ever
Why wasn't she a major star after this? Oh right - the acting. And yet - all of Hollywood. Maybe it was just the name.
@@johanericsson2403 The only other thing I saw her in was Major League II.
No she wasn’t. Very attractive but she couldn’t act !
Sean Fennessey: "Temple of Doom may be culturally insensitive."
Also Sean Fennessey: "This movie about eskimo brothers."
Now that Bill said it, I’m all in for a The War of The Roses episode. Danny DeVito directing, Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner just electric, and one of the funniest, meanest comedies ever.
Haha, it came on HBO Max and I watched it because Bill had talked about it - really is hilarious. I still don't quite get why she started hating him but I guess that's the point...lol
Sean's take on the holy grail and the blimp bit is ELITE content.
Also, I don't think these guys ever experienced the bar on an Emirates plane.
I like Temple of Doom 🤷♂️ it was my favorite Indy movie as a kid. Now as I’ve gotten older I’d say Last Crusade is my favorite. Ofc Raiders is a classic, objectively the best film of the trilogy but the father-son dynamic in the other two holds a special place in my heart.
That's my take as well. Raiders is definitely the superior *film* and I don't think that can or should be disputed by anyone. But Last Crusade is probably the more enjoyable movie.
1:18:59 Wayne Jenkins as The Grail Knight, keeping an eye on that Cup O’ Christ like a motherfuckin brick
The Spear of Destiny also has magical properties. Also, would’ve made a great movie. Really, there is a whole list of relics that the Nazis were hunting down. Wish it was a whole series of movies.
It's hard to tell how much of that "Spear of Destiny" Nazi stuff has any historical basis. The book by that name is a load, but interesting. There was an "archaeologist" of the 1930s called Otto Rahn who was gay but "Nazi-curious" and wrote books about how the Grail was a real object, did a little work for the SS but wasn't taken too seriously, and died mysteriously as gay Nazis were bound to. Himmler was into anything esoteric and there was already a whole occultism around the Grail and the Cathars and Templars that was far-right and antisemitic, right up his alley.
Thx 4 Posting on TH-cam! Thats where its ALWAYS THE BEST... Now bring back RYEN RUSSILLO he KILLS IT every time...
I always think the first two thirds of Raiders is better than the first two thirds of Last Crusade. But the final act of Last Crusade gets better and better as I get older. And the raiders final act gets lesser and lesser. Overall, I’d still say Raiders is the better Indy movie, but Last Crusade is very close.
I disagree. Last Crusade perfected what Raiders is. Like he said in the review, it has the more action, humor and this time around, it especially has stakes and a heart. The movie is perfectly paced and cut, where the last 20 minutes of Raiders is anti-climactic. There isnt one moment in Last Crusade where I can honestly say is a boring or dull moment. Raiders, the submarine scene is meh and forgettable. Again, not saying Raiders is bad, its like Raiders is Star Wars, and Last Crusade is Empire Strikes Back, just improving on all cylinders!
Well they're two different styles of movie. Raiders is very much an action serial derivative in almost every way. Last Crusade is basically a film noir turned into an Indiana Jones movie. People tend to concentrate on the similarities while not really looking at the differences, where it's the differences that have a lot of meaning.
Karen Allen should be in all the movies, i very much agree. Also my GF listens to the Podcast and eventually had to show her the clips of Wayne Jenkins bc she did not get why I was dying each time CR would do the Wayne Jenkins impression.
Temple of Doom is the most rewatchable and has the best look for Indy jacked and bulging out of his jacket.
Temple of Doom is a lot of fun (and extremely rewatchable) too. A true roller-coaster ride with Spielberg, Ford and John Williams at the top of their game.
Totally agreed. The too-dark stuff is ridiculous.
even kubrick knocked spielberg for being too sentimental in his filmmaking. the holocaust was about failure yet speilberg made it about success. temple of doom is fantastic
Rumours has it that Red Letter Media should release a Temple of Doom Re:view imminently. That will perhaps set the record straight about that great (and much-maligned) film.
@@FalconNest jay hadn't seen the good, the bad, and the ugly until like 6 months ago. don't believe anything they say!
@@bacardibum lol! I have it on good authority that it should be Mike and Rich Evans only.
The lady that yelled "ALARM!!" when Indy and the dad were tied up, sounded like Cobra Commander.
Mosquito Coast is criminally underrated
Elsa being nazi curious is the most adept description of any character in movie history.
Jurassic Park mainly was the price of admission to be able to make Schindler's List, that's why he did it. A trade.
They just blew by Empire of the Sun,a very good film imo.
At some point I have to watch "We Own The City"
Most rewatchable: "This is how we say goodbye in Austria." Sexy kiss. "And this is how we saw goodbye in Germany." POW!
Wayne Jenkins: 1:19:00
thank you for not leaving 'Mosquito Coast' off the list
What happened to Concorde? One of them had a big crash in 2000 and they were discontinued
I think you just answered your own question.
52:39 "Did big blimp cut you guys a check?!!" killed me XD
Do not say Empire of the Sun is not Spielbergy...it's tits to nuts Spielbergy and it's awesome
Blimps!!!! Awesome to have these fully on TH-cam again.
"everybody's lost but me" great line
rewatchables has to do after hours if they haven't already. it's a great movie that gets overlooked
There is a sizable contingent of Indy fans that absolutely love Temple of Doom and consider it on par with the first and third film.
That me
*Raises hand* Love it. Raiders is the most iconic. Crusade was a bit safe, and temple of doom is the crazy side mission sandwiched in between. Along with gremlins brought the pg13 rating
Temple Of Doom, IMO, gets worse with time. Of course its a fun Indy movie and not the worst Spielberg film, but its nowhere on par with the other films. The plot is ridiculous, the female sidekick is the worst and annoying, the villian is underused and introduced an hour into the film, the action is terribly lacking only being there in the intro and barely at the end in the mines with the kart chase, the last action sequence. The bridge ending is meh and predictable. Fun film, yes......great film, nowhere close
Picking nits:
Berenger’s girlfriend he leaves for Rene Russo? That plot line doesn’t even exist. She was Sheen’s uppity girlfriend in the first part of Major League 2.
1:19:03 Wayne Jenkins
whats crazy is - River Phoenix jumps out of the cave and lands in the dirt, like 14 feet. how did he NOT mess up a knee or ankle?? i hope they did only one or 2 takes.
Doody played Vaughn's gf, not Taylor's.
That is CR’s BEST Wayne Jenkins to date 😂😂😂
i think they're all misunderstanding how the power of the grail works in the movie. the knight says it can't be taken past the seal because if it is the temple will collapse to seal them inside and prevent the grail from being taken. it doesn't mean the grail's powers don't work outside the temple. and also, my impression was the cup only grants everlasting life as long as you continue to drink from it.
Well the everlasting life only happens when you drink from the cup *and* stay within the temple. They basically say so when he talks about the knight's brothers going back to Europe, extremely old, and then dying. I don't think you'd have to keep drinking from the cup; just once and stay in the temple guarding it. But it's a classic quest motif and you see it all over Arthurian literature and a lot of other places. Basically you can't have it all -- you can't live forever outside the temple and out in the world and you also can't just take the cup. It's all about faith.
@@gf4670 i get your point but i think the grail will grant everlasting life if you drink it everyday outside the temple as well. it's just that the temple was built to hold the grail and the seal was placed so the grail couldn't be taken. so if you wanted to live forever, you had to stay in the temple. i don't think you had to drink it inside the temple for it to work. that wouldn't make sense.
@@evanclp514 Well you can't get the Grail out of the temple. That was the point; if you try then an "act of god" will collapse the temple and keep the Grail inside and likely kill the people trying to take it. Like the knight said, that's the boundary and the price of immortality -- you have to stay inside the temple and guard the Grail to be immortal.
I love these guys and their movie discussions as a rule, but they are missing a LOT about this particular one. Whooshing all over the place, here.
The chemistry between Ford and Connery makes LC, I think. Visually, it's much a weaker and more drab film than Raiders and Temple - those films have so many great shots, so much color and interesting photography with light & shadow. LC is blandly lit and has too much earth tone. 90% of the entire film is either brown or gray.
So the argument is forwarded that the color purple was a failure. It was the fourth highest grossing film of 1985, and the most nominated film at the Oscars that year (famously/controversially won nothing), largely responsible for launching Whoopi Goldberg’s career. A film centered on two black women in inglorious circumstances grossing like a blockbuster is honestly more impressive than back to the future topping out the yearly charts
New Rewatchables episode!? Yes please! :0)
My impression of the black tie party in Pulp Fiction that the Wolf was coming from, had been going all night...we were witnessing the early morning tail end of that party. When Jules and Vincent get into trouble - I assumed it was still early morning - because of Jules's line about the big kahuna food - called it breakfast...
It isnt a mystery, Jimmy (Tarantino) says Bonnie is getting off working the graveyard shift. Everything has bright low angle morning sunlight. They go to the diner for breakfast. But if studying small details is your thing, the clock behind Jimmy says 8:16 during his dead n-- storage rant.
When Vince and Jules were arriving at the bad guy's hideout apartment, they we're outside the door and Jules askes Vince what time it is. He replies "7:22 in the AM. So it was pretty early AM when all that went down.
I always thought Winston was at a wake because everyone was dressed in black and it would make sense for that time of day.
You can clearly hear a croupier saying “Les jeux sont fait”. He is at a private casino.
The starting convo on TOD is kinda hilarious. Y'all really working hard to not speak the reality...."horrific", "too dark", "meanest", "not held in high esteem". Like FFS guys, the problem with Temple of Doom is that it is RACIST AF. Get real.
I despise Spielberg saccarine sentimentality. Disney happy endings are despicable horror pieces compared to Spielberg endings.
What a hack. Loved Jurassic Park though!
Raiders is my favorite an in a class by itself. But people are too hard on Temple of Doom - it was its own thing. They tried something different, which is commendable. I really wish Spielberg would stop shying away from his riskier films. Last Crusade, however well Connery and Ford played off each other, is safe. I prefer my Indiana Jones risky.
All of the sequels simply got too silly for me. RAIDERS was true, adventurous fun without the slapstick.
lol the mythology of the grail is specifically what bothers you? Not the whole come back from the dead, water to wine, raising the dead, curing leprosy, feeding five thousand with one fish and chips basket from Long John's, judge-y robed guy selling salvation is ok though? It's the grail part that bothers you. lol
I watch the Indy trilogy (and Kingdom of Skull to pass out) once a year around the holidays with family...it still hold up just fine, Last Crusade is a great #3 entry (since most #3's in trilogies suck), and Raiders has always been a perfect film.
Temple of Doom excited and scared the crap outta me in cinema as a 8 year old kid that summer of '84, but got damn that line was long around the blocks at the Roxy Theater in Bremerton WA (Navy ship yard suburb west of Seattle)...definitely Snakes, then Rats, but no BUGS for me Dr. Jones! Capshaw was a trooper.
*offtopic - Hey CR! Throw me The Idol, the real Idol Dr. Jones! As that laugh out loud bad show is getting cancelled methinks...NEVER GO FULL TEDROS HBO! Sell all The Weeknd & Zaslav stock :)
John Wayne might have the American male punch title belt.
The grail gives the gift of life solely for the purpose of having men guard the grail for eternity. Not that hard
I know Last Crusade has ultra beautiful Else but nah,
All original 3 INDY films are equally fun
WTF who's your camera guy? He sounds like Badger on Breaking Bad/El Camino.
Wayne Jenkins……….Grail Knight! Get Walter his cup of Christ & get him the fuck outta here!
Last Crusade might be the most fun, but it's not the best. Far from it. Raiders is by far the best. Anyone who says Last Crusade is better than Raiders is dead wrong. Of course, they're entitled to their opinion and I won't think anything less of them for it, but they're still wrong.
ya know on the ROTK winning the oscar for the third movie in a trilogy thing, I've had a low stakes conspiracy theory on this for many years. I think that once FOTR came out, and the academy along with all the public saw that Peter Jackson actually seemed to pull this off, and that the other 2 of them were very likely to be just as good, they sort of made an unofficial decision the just acknowledge the endeavor as a whole by waiting for the 3rd to give it best picture. Both of the first 2 would still get the courtesy of a nomination, but let the ending get its big night. This way even though the first 2 could easily have been just as worthy winners, it lets them get to still get other films some attention for those years. It would get boring if all 3 of them won best pic.
Actually I'm not even necessarily saying it's a "conspiracy", it feels just like a conclusion that many of the members could've come to anyway to lean toward. and no the Godfather doesn't count as a relative comparison, there wasn't a second one already planned and shot when the first one got its award.
I know they aren’t technically film critics but for my money Sean and Amanda are the best critics out there.
* Guys.
There is no place for a Zucker satire anymore because center right comedy really doesn't hit. It can be zany or lean on lazy tropes and shit to get by. It gets annoying and long.
Harrison Ford does not do most of his own stunts. Especially in Last Crusade, Ford has a stunt double that looks almost exactly like him
"i said NO camels, that's FIVE camels... cant you count?"
The most misunderstood thing about this movie and the same mistake is made on this episode is about Marcus Brody’s character. They didn’t shift his character to stupid. I think because of illness they needed to throttle his presence, perhaps at the last minute. His character is supposed to be aging and suffering dementia. That Henry Sr says he got lost once in his own museum doesn’t speak to Marcus’ overarching personality but something that has happened since he started slipping. As dementia sufferers often do, Marcus has cogent periods. Just as when Indy reveals Alexandretta as the city name, it’s Marcus who connects the dots between the name of the ancient city and the map in the Grail diary. This demonstrates he’s not suddenly been altered but that his mental capacity is slipping.
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We're not going to talk about the score?! Williams truly delivered.
All Mat Ishbia references (w/context):
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As far as Ford being the most punchy actor : I'm on team Chris and Bill. Ford IS Mr Punch
The sound is perfect.
@@David-iv6je I keep meaning to make that my morning alarm
Always a pleasure to see Wayne Jenkins again.
Vocal fry in 2023. I thought we were beyond this. Therapy works.
Dudes with vocal fry
indiana jones and lao tzu's pyramid. there im better than hollywood
To me, I love every film in this franchise, some more than others but still
I love the Charlemagne comment too. Unfortunately it’s not a real quote.
Is there a reason why Craig Horlbeck's segment got cut out at the end for the VOD?
I didn’t know these full videos were now up here!?! Awesome!!!
33:00 Satire is dead in 2023 across the board. There's nothing clever left to say when reality is a satire of what we were afraid might happen. We have living cartoons as politicians, and we just remake the same superhero movie over and over again for a decade and we all lived through a pandemic disaster film. Satire just has no appeal because as a society we're no longer coming from a place of certainty and normalcy and looking into the absurd with satire, we live in the absurd, so a satire just seems pointless.
Nah, The Boys on Prime Streaming has been EXCELLENT satire across the board. Specifically to the ridiculous relative, timely subjects/ideologies they are pointing laughs at, and it ain't superheroes.
Skipping over Temple of Doom is criminal
Temple of Doom is criminal
Temple of Doom is by far the most interesting movie in the Indy series. It’s literally Spielberg in “I don’t give a F@#! mode”.
You guys don't know Jon Pertwee? That's so disappointing. He's the third Doctor Who and his son is Sean Pertwee from Gotham. He would've been great as Dr Jones.
Don't forget Worzel Gummidge!
I loved temple of doom 'monkey brains 😂
"culurally insensitive..." LOL
Right off the bat, too.
Temple of Doom is fucking amazing
Most fun Indiana Jones yes. Raiders is the crown jewel of the movies . Temple of Doom is clearly a rung or two below yet still has its charm, mostly in the comic relief of Short Round whose quotables saw regular use in my childhood. “Hey doctah Jones, no time for love!” “That’s no cookie!” and “Hold on to your potatoes!”
It isn't a rung below anything. It's the best one by far.
"no more parachutes" is still a go to line for me.
@@jjstraka1982 Temple Of Doom is even worse the Crystal Skull. Worse action, worse plot, worse female sidekick, most boring villian. I could go on and on......
Really like the second one so there.
This is very intelligent film discussion and dissection. A rarity for TH-cam.
Very intelligent? They didn’t know why Concorde was discontinued! lol
Temple of Doom is my favorite.
Temple of Doom the meanest from Spielberg? Issac Kappy disagrees...
It's also the best Indiana Jones
Snakes on a plane ...apex mountain
Willard is the best rat movie.
The guy in the middle looks ill.
Temple is the best script. It shows the moment Indy goes from Fortune and Glory to being a hero to save kids. Willie Scott is a perfect foil and not just a female version of Indy like Marion. And the action sequences are a roller coaster ride for the whole thing, sometimes literally.
You're kidding, right??!? Willie Scott is ANNOYING and HORRIBLE for one. Second, where is this roller coaster ride?? After the intro, which all Indy films open with great action sequences, after they land from the raft,, there isnt an action sequence until the mines WAY later in the film. And then, even its just a mediocre fistfight and the kart chase. After that, its underwhelming until the end. Yes, the bridge scene is anti-climactic and predictable. The villian is underused, underdeveloped and introduced an HOUR into the film almost, and has next to NO screen time. This film is so overrated. Its a fun film, nowhere near a great film.....
@@spice_krispies Well, that's true if you discount the monkey brains dinner, the insect corridor, the room of spikes, the guy getting his heart pulled out and incinerated, Indy being drugged and turning evil, and Willie being almost dunked in lava. After all of that they go on the roller coaster in the mine, which leads directly to the bridge scene finale. Temple is the Empire of Indy movies. Darker and grittier. Folks didn't like it, so they went back to remaking the original for the third film, just like Jedi. However, I like Dark Lucas.
@@greyhoundfivemedia812 those scenes were not action sequences you listed, they were dark, suspense scenes. You need to understand what action is. And lastly, dark doesn't always equal good.
Matilda
Panzer III
"HOOK" was not a flop
I love both Raiders and Last Crusade, but Temple of Doom is my jam.
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Thank god Spielberg did not direct Rain Man. He overdoes the emotional tears, specifically Pvt. Ryan and the ending to Schindler's List. Levinson was subtle and Hoffman and Cruise carried a modern classic.
Love the 3rd one! I can barely remember, Raiders and Temple of Doom. When Bill said, the one with Sean Connery! LOL! I remember, Sean Connery passed away on Halloween '20. I didn't know, that River Phoenix also passed away on Halloween '93.
My favorite one
I recently re-watched the whole Indiana Jones trilogy (not you Shia) and TOD was easily my least favorite. The effects were terrible and it had no heart (no pun intended). It arguably had the most action, but not really any substance. Just a standard action movie.
For me, Temple of Doom created this unreal and biased view of Indian food for about a decade after I first saw it as a kid. I was slightly surprised and in a weird way, slightly disappointed, when I was strong armed into going to an Indian restaurant during my freshman year of college and there were no bugs, snakes, or monkey brains anywhere on the menu.
Middle guy has no idea what he's talking about...grouping WotW Minority Report and Catch Me If You Can together(one of thesethings is not like the other) as examples of his epic action era...then comparing Amistad and Munich as if they were in the same Spielberg era...dude read a buzz feed article and is doing his best to regurgitate it
God is real
49:20 the best use of food or drink in the movie is Indy and Donavon drinking champagne at Donavon's penthouse while he debriefs Indy about the tablet from the knight's tomb.
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