NASA's New Space Plane in BIG TROUBLE! Here's Why
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- NASA's New Space Plane in BIG TROUBLE! Here's Why
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0:00-0:30: Intro
0:31-2:32: Dream Chaser delayed
2:33-4:20: Which rocket launches Dream Chaser?
4:21: Dream Chaser VS Starliner
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NASA's New Space Plane in BIG TROUBLE! Here's Why
Starliner is stuck in orbit after many years of delays. That might be a lesson for all new vehicles, the most prominent of which soon is Dream Chaser.
However, unfortunately, after years of development, Dream Chaser not only has not yet flown into orbit but also continues to delay its launch schedule since 2021.
So, why was Dream Chaser delayed? How did NASA react to this? Will the spaceplane follow in the 'mistakes' of Boeing Starliner?
Stay tuned as we dive and more in this episode of Alpha Tech!
NASA's New Space Plane in BIG TROUBLE! Here's Why
The long-awaited debut of a winged space plane will have to wait a little longer. During a recent conference call with reporters, United Launch Alliance CEO Tony Bruno announced that Sierra Space's Dream Chaser would not have its first launch this year.
Why was Tony Bruno making this announcement instead of Tom Vice, CEO of Sierra Space, who usually provides the latest updates on Dream Chaser?
Well, it seems that ULA's new Vulcan rocket is in a hurry, but Dream Chaser is not keeping up with the urgency of its partner company. Dream Chaser had been scheduled to launch on the second test flight of ULA's Vulcan rocket for the past five years.
NASA's New Space Plane in BIG TROUBLE! Here's Why
With Vulcan's nearly perfect inaugural flight in January and if the second flight succeeds later this year, ULA's Vulcan will be certified by the U.S. Space Force to launch the military's most sensitive national security satellites into orbit.
This is also very important for ULA since their Atlas V, serving the U.S. military, is no longer in production, while SpaceX is almost dominating the launch market. If ULA wants to regain its position, its new Vulcan rocket must accelerate its launch cadence in the near future.
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Delay after delay. Maybe they should rename it Dream On
The issue with ULA and their new Vulcan rocket is that their promised reusability is still ZERO !! So until they get that fixed it will still be way more expensive than SpaceX.
This is only a prototype space plane, the real one is planned to be much bigger.
Falcon Heavy would fit this, although heavy is probably going to be phased-out later by Starship.
I agree with ULA, they need many successful launches, to even stay in the game long term.
When Starship hits its stride, even ULA vulcan rocket will become obsolete.
Its not a competitor but an more of an alternative.
Five bucks says it never gets off the ground.
I think they'll keep chasing that dream as long as the money keeps rolling....
Dream Chaser would have flown many years ago with Starliner's budget. And even if NASA wouldn't fund propulsive landing for Dragon, SpaceX should have developed propulsive landing for Dragon on their own dime. Plenty of horrific decisions to go around.
Just watching those complex curve shaped tiles, hardly believe someone
repeat the same mistakes of space shuttle.
How ridiculous. We should know how to make a shuttle by now.
I can sum up the problem in one word; Boeing.
🥰
That and "Accountants"
X-37B has made 6 flights.
Given that NASA wants interoperability between launch systems and payloads they should not be holding up the dream chaser for a non SpaceX launch vehicle. SpaceX has both the Falcon 9 and Falcon heavy. If on can not fly the dream chaser the other can. Has a 5.2 meter fairing. No reason not to use SpaceX other than politics.
A pig will fly before this thing. It's nothing but a money grab.
If Sierra changes from ULA to SpaceX I'd bet they would get ready real quick. Even if it takes time to adjust, I'd bet good money they will get off the ground faster with SpaceX.
In order to have a future, one is required to take a first step! Currently, Dream Chaser is just a very expensive statue, pretty to look at..
Most of the recent delays have mostly been caused by the dysfunction of the Vulcan/Starliner fiasco.
But it will fit on StarShip.
If it's from NASA, expect the two tens. 10 years late $10 billion over budget.
IMHO Dream Chaser is an idea overdue, Boeing has had that program in one form since the 80's for a mini-shuttle. It was even mandated by Congress for ISS (then to be Station Freedom) as a requirement for any manned station to have as a lifeboat. Boeing failed to deliver then forcing the deal with Russia and renaming the US station planned as the International one. The real problem with Boeing is heavy reuse of off the self parts that were rejected from older programs like the thruster system valves on Strandliner that were never rated to sit idle on a pad for days or weeks under pressure. Now with the He leaks not only do they have a lost of control issue for any return trip but the last leak was at thruster levels that is like strapping on a rocket on a pivot causing random counter thrust to any effort to control the craft working against any pilot. Dreamchaser was intended to be a crew only or small load addition to the old shuttle fleet since the late Reagan years. The idea is good but Boeing is not the one to build it. Another canceled project I think would be worth bringing back is the Diamond shaped Aerospike Shuttle that was intended to replace the shuttle fleet. Like the dreamchaser one was nearly finished before the cancel with frames built for a pair of follow on craft. It was fully self contained and with added SR boosters could go farther than orbit. One advantage of the dreamchaser idea is it can be mounted on nearly any rocket (with some adapting collar if needed). There is no need to place it inside another's cap and could expand range with larger rockets. Like I said though it needs rebuilt without Boeing using spare leftovers and updated to newer material. SpaceX is replacing older parts with better ones as they become possible (3 gen on tiles a new gen engine being tested now) When was the last time Boeing built anything that was new that wasn't just a reconfigured use of old parts. All the Max lines are is just extending the old tubes, not a new plane designed. They canceled all 4 engine designs in aircraft, limiting safety for overseas flights going forward. If I was POTUS I would cancel the 747 rebuilds for AF1 and doomsday planes and go with the C5 instead. Already Mil spec and the motorcade planes act as extra doubles. With a shared design for both pairs should also be able to up the order to 5 for the same price as the 4- 747s too.
if SpaceX had built it it would already be in service
if spacex built it it would explode
@@PlutoNeptuneUranusSaturnrapid iterative development means testing to limits and finding solutions.
I guess you were one of the folks who thought that reusable rockets landing on land and sea were impossible…a lot of ‘experts’ thought that and are eating crow pie.
Musk can achieve anything and do it quicker.
Just like Starship right? Right? 😂
@@user-hj7kd2jo6h i never thought of reuseable rockets untill space x
Another Nasa mess, yet space x, goes from strength to strength.
As the military did right after the 5th space shuttle mission, which launched two communication satellites into orbit, they bumped commercial payloads for military payloads which needed "to be in orbit yesterday". Then along with classified payloads came mission specialist who didn't get along with NASA astronauts. If the military used their own boosters then the shuttle would have started building the ISS in 1988 instead of 1998. And now the DreamChaser is getting bump in favor of the military.
Use Falcon Heavy to put the space plane out there.
Who can't do better than Boeing?
Biden
Boeing has a very long list of accomplishments… more than 100 more than SpaceX.. so far does not have many only copies ULA rockets. 😂😂😂
After all these years, how is it that NASA is so technological inept and Spacex so bloody good?
It's all about milking the system for as much money as they can. They all should be ashamed.
Of course it will be delayed past 2025. I am saying 2035. They made one mistake….not involving SpaceX. Elon would of had this bird flying years ago.
What is the reason for the delay? I watched this twice to understand but no information was given. Vulcan is on a timeline to become certified for $ome rea$on. And if delays mean a program is 'in BIG TROUBLE", I guess StarLiner, SLS, Vulcan, New Glenn, Ariane 6 and Vega are also "in BIG TROUBLE"...but no, just plodding along.
If a rocket company bids out to NASA and the company that bids doesn't have rocket ready to go then they do not get the contact and they are disqualified for the contact.
Dream Chaser is well worth waiting for.
Why?
6 tons wow hold my beer SpaceX does up to 100 ton
SpaceX boasts about 100 ton but has shown no accomplishment…. SpaceX had very long ways to go… even the Falcon 9 payload is less than the space shuttle payload 😂😂😂
It looks like the spaceship X plane from 6 Million Dollar Man intro.
But...But...But, it was told to us that it was 110% ready to fly 2 Months ago..?
Sadly, Dream Chaser has become a public relations wet dream !
Yeah it's apropos that they put "Dream" right in the name.. Like; Dream On.
Don't fly = Useless .. Just another NASA Money Pit.
You would think that with the development of the space shuttle many years ago that Dream Chaser wouldn't take forever and a day to make operational. Hopefully, the result isn't a replay of the endless issues of the Starliner.
The joints on the foldable wings are a clear red flag area - as Space X flaps have shown.
I love Dream Chaser. Maybe it's nostalgia, I don't know but the design is so cool. It's what we old people envisioned.
Sierra has a number of space technologies that are profitable and in demand.
So what is the problem with the Space plane.
Built by DEI hires
Comparing Dream Chaser to the more larger and usable space shuttle is a bit much. What is the actual limitations of the Mini me Space Shuttle Dream chaser. Wish we had the Space Shuttles to help build the reaplcement Sation for the ISS when they controll crash it after 2030.
By the time it runs , it will be so outdated , why run it
There should be standardization so that Dream Chaser can be launched on any viable launcher platform
when starship is up it wont be able to compete..
Looks like a Tupelov
Makes you wonder how many corners got cut in the early days to make schedules. Lots of fingers must have been crossed on launch days.
It's only tax payers money down the shiter...
Yeah!
When is return flight?
NASA: No exact schedule because they don't want to return. They enjoy space life more than being happy.
When is return flight?
NASA: indefinite. We want to investigate the issues thoroughly until all problems are solved.
When is return flight?
NASA: what a silly question! look! the astronauts are not stranded on ISS. They love to stay as long as possible. We just adjusted the return schedule to meet their excitement and curiosity in space.
As long as Nelson is at the helm, taper your expectations.
The competitors, wil always outperform NASA
looks exactly like a space plane design from the Gundam series
Space Shuttle ❌
Space Shutdown ✅
I’m sure that John creighton would love the dream chaser.
'Chaser' isstill going to have to launch/launch capability on SpaceX Heavy.. and ULA is chomping as those government contracts, heavily, so you don't really know what the real story may have been for Dream-Chaser's delays..
There is always Ariane-6.
I still have the original ESA artical from 1989 of the HERMES space plane to launch on top of Ariane-5 to service a small European space station.
DreamChaser is very similar in design, size and capabilities to the last design rendering of HERMES.
I hope dream chaser flies soon.
Did i hear " BOEING" ? Problem solved !
Oh! Really?
I guess they are going to rely on cameras to see?
What about using Falcon Heavy?
Cool idea but FH isn't and there is no plan to human-rate it.
And this dumb AI forgot to mention F9 has a man rated non-reusable profile that can just barely launch it but no faring. Or at least it always sounds like human edited AI content to me.
@@tsamuel6224 Yea, it seems to me that a hull designed to survive reentry could launch without a fairing.
Is this going to be better than the x33 would have been?
Good point.
This is from 2019. Pretty old!
just let Elon go and get them, maybe they can bring Starliner back in Starship. a space plane a little bigger than a "Mini-Van should be developed to go on rescue missions
Good Morning, Bud. Does ULA's Vulcan rocket still plan on using Bezos BE-4 engine? I like Sierra's approach. However what are the delays? Can you give us an update on DreamChaser? What the internal delays are. Is there discussion between SpaceX and Sierra space? The safest bet would be either Falcon 9 or the Falcon Heavy. Don't you think? Great Episode. Have a Great Day.
The Vulcan is currently powered by BE4 engines
As I have analyzed, Dream Chaser really does not fit in Falcon 9.
Sierra Space's delay was because they needed more thorough testing
It's not nasa's what are you trying to say?
Thx a lot god
So this is old news..
FARSCAPE‼️
CALL JOHN CRIGHTON ‼️
Sierra is going the way of BO
A lot being learned from Starship reentry which so far has been working so my guess is bulk of resources continue to be poured into that SpaceX product which is launching and is improving and validating some really crazy ideas that if even if only ten percent of them work will revolutionize space flight with to date all the craziness with that system (methane raptors, full re-use, two stage, possible re-fuel on and on) is causing some Industry blowback from those now finding themselves to be playing 2nd to all of this which is basically everyone except RocketLab which has been far more modest in its goals offering up competition against Falcon 9 as its primary upgrade as new system. Ukraine continues to drain resources from everything and everyone as does the illegal and now massive War against Yemen and whatever it is that is going on in the Levant. Major Blowback to be expected therefore..
Great video but with audio, ends of many sentences are garbled and tough to understand.
If I was SpaceX I wouldn't spend a dime on this. It's NASA to adapt their plane to fit in current faring, not the other way around.
Dream Chaser is a vision and an ambition.
Hope the dream is not falling from great heights.
I read something they will build a larger one once they get the bugs worked out. I hope so.
@@Knox122771 why?
@@st0n3p0ny Because to retrieve and repaire satelites, Assist the space sations in upper orbit with take more than a capsul and a shit the size of a escape pod. This little ship will not be enough.
@Knox122771 20 years from now, and a trillion tax dollars later, we might get something that costs a thousand times more to launch than a more capable Starship... the writing is on the wall. Inertia and nostalgia are why we're keeping a NASA project like this going.
@@st0n3p0ny whats the point of this tiny shuttle if it can not do what the space craft it is claiming to replace. This is Space capsule not a Space Shuttle. I thought the idea was to build better not cheaper and not as good. Space X is doing what the little tiny shuttle does and less of what the old shuttle was capable of.
Dream chaser will not be launching this year on anything. Could launch on Falcon 9, next year.
consider my analysis, Falcon 9 seems no match for Dream Chaser
I give it three more years. And two more billion dollars over budget
@@marshallfischer3667
Wow, that’s hard to believe, thought it was almost ready to fly. No one is flying anything, but for SpaceX.
testing of a reusable space plane has taken longer, it always has. the real problem was the later delivery of the BE4 engine to power Vulcan. & ula expensive US Military order book and their lost patience
ULA may launch in time this year! But it's unlikely that it will be in time for missions next year.
@@alphatech4966 Well every other Cargo provider did one test flight. Providing SN nail thier test flight there is nothing to stop them other than ULA.
Biggest slush fund in history
at least there is no pressure...nobody expects anything from NASA afterall...
Its not rocket science 😂😅😢
TH-cam keeps recommending this channel, it sucks. Sensationalism very few facts
When is NASA de-orbiting the ISS? 2030?
yes that was the original word but google it now and it says NASA plans to decommission the International Space Station (ISS) in early 2031 and crash it into a remote part of the Pacific Ocean.
@@Knox122771 I think the point is how many service missions to ISS get to do before ISS is decomissioned ?
@@trespire Thanks. I know they pushed the date a couple time.
2025 because Dream Chaser can’t be ready in time for next rocket launch
JUST USE THE MUCH superior SpaceX technologies, which already do a brillant job and loads the ISS successfully from the beginning, and now over 60 times - earth to ISS and back to earth.
Well.. I mean.. it's NASA. We don't expect anything different from this over-funded excuse to pad contractor's wallets.
What is dreamchaser even for? The ISS will be splashed before it flies, and this miniature shuttle can’t carry much
Money grab by all involved .
More time lapse
Dream Chaser will be a Budget Nightmare like all taxpayer projects.
Glad to see somebody working on spaceplane tech. Interesting lines on dream chaser. flat bottomed, stub nosed and folding flapper wings. I wouldnt call it an elegant design, but if it works, its more advanced than capsule era tech.
I would like to see experimentation with fabricated shapes to see if heat shields could be reduced via glide ratio extension in thin air. Might be something for a rideshare program, to build scale models and test. So that any time there was excess launch potential it got used to forward the tech.
Brick bottomed aircraft seems a bit odd.
Would be interesting to have an X-prize for longest skin temp coolest glide, from a bench mark LEO.
Two Vulcan launches two a year. Both are too slow. The Chaser isn't needed immediately so time isn't so important. The only reliable launch system is by SpaceX.
In total fairness, spacex simply redefined a new type of "temporal" reliability. ULA is very reliable by launch statistics. That doesnt mean much when you can order a falcon 9 like you would an uber.
2025
The problems for astronauts/cosmonauts having to be carried out of their capsule is due, as far as as I know, to weightlessness and physiological problems associated with that. How is a lander like DreamChaser going to fix that? An AI massage unit in each seat?
Interesting point. The longer the human body is in weightlessness, the weaker it becomes and when it re-enters full gravity field, then the astronauts might not be able to wrestle the controls, but solely rely on automatic pilot. I guess Dream Chaser would only be allowed to stay up for about 2weeks, the same as the Space Shuttle.
How much is it costing us?
PCS
Our Space Shuttle was a vanity project same as going to the moon. As soon as it's profitable to have a space plane SpaceX will have one ready in no time.
What is its advantage?
Check out our old Dream Chaser episodes! I have analyzed it very carefully
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Hmm! That’s right
NSA is not doing good 😮😮😮😮.Give it to space x is safe and Reilabal .😊😊😊😊😊.
Be careful of spelling. NSA is the National Security Agency which does code cracking.
spacex aint reliable
Farscape
Yeah they had heads up in 1999 😂😂😂
It's not NASA space plane but I guess whatever works as a good click bite for a title. I guess picking on starliner and running it into the ground isn't good enough they're going to start on dreamchaser next
Thank you for your reminder! I will note that!
Why? How will this improve the lot of average Americans who risk sliding into 3rd world conditions and pay? Nobody today except the French, have come close to equaling the technical quality that existed in the Apollo program. You will never have a safe program with 100% reliability if you rely on third party manufacturers building to a budget. This is thre donain of governments will deep pockets. Sadly this era is now in the past for the USA.
space X doesn’t count ? What are the French up to exactly?
@@fionajack9160 I think the writer is referring to Ariane rocket. However, SpaceX is basically the new Apollo.
This is all awaste of time, money and effort. They already have platforms that can get to space and back without using chemical rockets. Save all the $$$ and announce it. It will be best for all.
Without chemical rockets? Please explain with references and demonstrable evidence
@@JustaPilot1 No. But evidence is there if you just consider the possiblilities and look up.
@@WhiteDragon689 You made a definitive statement, "They already have platforms that can get to space and back without using chemical rockets", but you deny you have evidence to back up what you state.
I have payed very close attention to space programs and development for decades to include some tangential involvement, and I know there is no such system capable of boost to orbit without chemical rockets. It is one of the holy grails of space flight, as is single boost to orbit neither of which any space progrm in capable of achieving.
There is no evidence to support your claim. Physics is not on your side.
So, present what you think supports it.
Shut up.
Click bait! Fail.
Why do you think that?
@@alphatech4966 usual reasons. Not NASA’s space plane to start with
😂🤣
It all has echo's of the European Space Agency's Hermes spaceplane.