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So Elizabeth Heinstridge (Jemma) was actually sick/had a cold when they filmed this, which is why her voice is so weird. But it actuall ends up adding to it, considering she just took over a dead body and all.
@@David-bf2cg It's way more emotional and tragic. I love how depressing it is and how the trying to save the world feels like ineviteble failure. I would say that season 5 had the best character development. They did so many interesting things with the characters. Like Coulson coming to terms with his death, Fitz and doctor Fitz blending together, Yo-Yo thought that she can't die, Talbot going nuts, Daisy trying to save Colson whatever it takes, May becoming mum for Roman and a lot more. I always liked the character aspect most about this shoew and I think that season 5 is best at it. Also season 5 feels so inescapable because it uses s ton of stuff from previous seasons. Like Ftzs theory about time, gravitonium, centipede, Kree and so on.
In case no one mentioned, the reason Phil was able to believe it and remembered easier is because he went through the Tahiti project and his brain was tampered with. So his brain is less connected to the framework because it has more cracks in it. And it is cracked in a unnatural way so even Aida entering him in taking into account brain damage like Fitz it’s still different because Phil’s brain wasn’t damaged but actually edited. He had more gaps for his other life to slip in. I also believe it is why Fitz seems to recognise Simmons a little bit. Because of his brain damage because if you notice May, Mack and Mace don’t have a single inkling that things are different. I know Fitz has a bit more outside knowledge because of Ophelia, and knows it’s a simulation but it seems his brain damage made the veil between his normal life and this life a little bit thinner. As he clearly recognised Simmons. But because his brain damage was a more natural one is why I think he didn’t recognise and change the same way Phil did. Because for Phil his broken brain stuff made him already suspicious of the framework and reality.
Elizabeth was sick during the filming of this episode which as bad as it sounds, it makes it so much better considering Jemma has literally come back from the dead
Ayy appreciate that so much. Blind Wave is always the best, wish I had a friend group like that, that was as passionate about this stuff as me. Maybe one day ill have group reactions lol
In addition to Coulson's drawings of the SHIELD logo and the line "It's a magical place" compulsively written many times, they include: - newspaper article with the title 'Loyalist Felix Blake Given Parade: Hydra Hero and Human First Champion Celebrated for Advocacy" - postcards from TAHITI - a calendar for MAY with a photo of a car (Lola) on it - an advertisement for a concert of a string quartet with a picture of a cellist (not Audrey Nathan, but just a cellist) - a newspaper article with the title "LA QUAKE hits hard" - newspaper article about the "Outbreak at the Academy" ("seventy three die in deadly biohazard breach") with Coulson's notes scribbled next to it* - newspaper article with the title "Winslow Doctor Arrested for Subversion" about a person who was supposedly trying to turn humans into Inhumans (Coulson has underlined certain words like "DNA", "Hydra", "Inhumans" and scribbled notes like "How can a doctor do this?", "transformation", "WINSLOW?" and "what is his name?" Teacher Coulson has obviously been thinking a lot and secretly questioning the Hydra propaganda, but he is also drawn subconsciously to certain names and words. "Winslow" in the title presumably referred to the location, but the name resonated with Phil for some reason - probably because "Dr Winslow" was Cal's new name after he underwent the TAHITI program.
I love stuff like this so much, just being able to pause and read it all. Feel bad a lot of react channels probably can't pause since they do full length watch-alongs that they have to sync up, but I'm glad I can lol! I picked up on most of that, and how his real world mind is connecting with his mind here, the Winslow thing I had no clue about though so thats awesome
@@JustGavinBennett Honestly the thing I enjoy the most is that, this is all slipping through because Coulson has had his memories messed with before, I love how they always tie things back to earlier stuff so it makes sense.
Among the many things the "Framework" arc does brilliantly, I especially love how it explores the ways that experience and circumstances can shape what kind of people we become, while still leaving certain essential qualities intact. FrameworkWard is still loyal, resourceful, dedicated, and skilled at violence - but now he's also kind, principled, and with an un-stunted sense of empathy. And FrameworkFitz is still brilliant, creative, and deeply emotional - but now he's also cynical, angry, and almost incapable of admitting vulnerability or uncertainty.
Framework Ward punching Vijay Nadeer so suddenly to silence him is reminiscent of when Ward shot the fake "Clairvoyant" back in season 1, just this time Framework Ward actually works for Shield.
The entry that you read about Jemma that Daisy found in the Hydra database is an obituary that says she died in a tragic outbreak of biohazardous gas and that she's buried in UK was obviously a lie and a cover-up, as she has actually been shot, along many others, and buried in a mass grave. The article Coulson found is probably about a different but similar "accident" (since the number of victims is very different) that conveniently took the lives of people Hydra wanted dead. Love the little world building like that. Also the guy who is dead in the mass grave beside her, I think is supposed to be death lock, if you look he has a metal eye or something.
Fun fact: The CGI model of the Triskellion is the exact same one as the one seen in CA: TWS. It was "loaned" to AoS by the VFX studio that built it for the movie.
I'm not a fan of love triangles, but the way AOS does them with Fitzsimmons is pretty great. Getting a good Grant Ward was really cool, feels like an interesting coda to the character and was kind of cathartic to watch as a fan, even if the initial betrayal still stings 10 years later. It's also interesting to see how they bring back certain characters in this, and the fact that they were able to get so many actors back feels like a real testament to how much the people who worked on the show loved it. Great reaction as always!
yeah, felt the same! it was like a Ward redemption arc...and *spoiler* in an upcoming episode getting a proper goodbye to a character that we lost kinda suddenly and who died for nothing
i love how the writers were able to put obstacles in fitzsimmons’ relationship without being corny or obvious (which is something tv shows used to do in 99% of the time). they pulled up the "love triangle" thing twice, while it wasn't exactly a love triangle and the two being completely different from each other plotwise. they always did great!
You maybe saw it better on a rewatch, but at the end, you sort of paused through the answers to your questions. Aida told Leopold that she had closed a loophole for their escape, which is why the button didn't work to wake them up.
I love how much you love Jemma! Because same. She's been my fave since Day 1, the pilot episode! And interesting behind the scenes fact: Elizabeth Henstridge was actually sick during the shooting of this episodes (well at least some of it) so that's why she sounds like that when she comes out of the grave. It wasn't on purpose but it really worked with the episode
Elizabeth was sick during the shooting of the episode, so thats why her voice cracking but it was well timed since she is supposed to be recently dead in this world lol 😂
I think on one newspapers it said during this arc says that the Avengers were killed in the Cambridge Incident. This show has a better reason for Avengers not being available even in a virtual reality than Secret Invasion does throughout that entire show.
Yeah I think I call that out next episode or something, and then I look at Marvel Snap and find out shes basically in it. Well, Madame Hydra is "Viper"
@@JustGavinBennett Ah, Viper, Another copyright confusing case Fox had the right to Viper as she's an Xmem character, While Marvel retained Madam Hydra because of her connection to Hydra All this despite being the same character, they just couldn't use both names for her
Oooo thats makes sense. Though maybe Hydra was forcing them to unleash their powers by turning them with the blue soap lmao 🤣. Blue Soap Coulson has me convinced
Putting the show aside for a minute, I wanna appreciate you for your reactions this time..like honestly I've tried watching some other reactions but not one of them resonated with me or was this immersive! The way you calculate, come up with predictions and the overall excitement of 'ooh what's gonna happen next' honestly makes it one of the best reactions to watch!♥️
Thanks so much! ❤️ I’m not this way with every show, there are some reactions where I’ve been bored or have even given up on 2 shows in the past. This series however, just has had me gripped so far and I hope that doesn’t change in future seasons
@@JustGavinBennett That honestly makes me so happy to hear! This show is just really underrated!..I wish more people would get to know what a true gem this series is...
@@David-bf2cg I quit on JoJo just because the views weren't worth the effort of posting all of them at the time. And I did the same with Bleach except I just didn't enjoy Bleach at all. They were some of the first things I started when I turned this into a react channel. Right now I have a pretty good idea of what I like and would want to react to.
Framework Jemma's death explanation was describing an event from the comics, where a huge bomb was detonated, which killed a shit ton of people and spread Terrigen Mist, transforming the worthy into Inhumans. In Season 2, they went a different direction as they didn't want to go into nuclear bomb territory LOL
That you speculate that Madame Hydra is Agnes and not AIDA was something I never thought at all on first watch. I really just assumed that was AIDA, especially since last episode it was revealed she wanted to be a real person. If she could, she would in the framework.
This arc is basically a very good interpretation of House of M, Wich Wandavision very loosely adapted Just that instead of reality being altered, it's an alternate timeline in a simulation
I love Ward in the framework. It’s like this could have been Ward, if he’d made the decision to not follow Garrett (though who knows…) when he had the chance… so many feelings about this arc. It’s so good!
I always loved how significant it is for Coulson to say "Daisy". He was the one that always had trouble referring to her as Daisy instead of Skye, so when he sees her it would've made sense if he said 'Skye'. But then you couldn't be sure that he new the real her or the framework version of her. Him saying "Daisy" is everything!
Does anyone else notice that this story is similar to Secret Empire? You know, it's set in a Hydra controlled world, led by a hero whose history was rewritten to make them a member of Hydra, with the heroes as a resistance working against them. Given that the framework arc and Secret Empire both began in April of 2017, I wonder if it was a deliberate way to even make the TV show kinda tie into the event, or if it was a co-incidence.
I love the comparisons to Fringe! It is my second favorite show (after SHIELD) and a staple in my family. Loved the reaction, I never took the time to read Jemma's obituary, glad you paused on it!
I know everyone (including me) loves 4x15 but this episode is always gonna be one of my faves of the show and season! I just love getting to explore the new world, seeing good Ward and bad Fitz is so fun
I've had the biggest smile watching your reactions to this and the previous episode! I got to watch 4x16 early at an AoS panel at WonderCon, and it's one of my favorite viewing experiences of anything. Also love your Fringe love! Fringe and AoS are my all-time top two.
The framework arc is some of the best parts of AoS but it's hard to watch, like it's very dark and seeing this Fitz is just so hearbreaking, especially when you realize the things he'll have to live with after leaving, but he's also looking hot like I have many feelings!
17:40 he hasn't gone through terrigenesis. Remember while Daisy and Ward was interrogating him 13:10 and he said to give him the terrigen and Ill show you a threat 13:30
Vijay doesn’t have powers. Remember he said to give him some terrigen and he’d show them…something. He hasn’t gone through terrigenesis. They can test for inhuman dna before the change. Jemma mentioned that in traffic. So it hasn’t had the same outbreak. It’s weird that Lincoln has a file, because I feel like (given the episode) Afterlife hasn’t gotten involved. Maybe May saved the little girl before Lincoln changed? So with the early detection of inhuman dna, maybe they found Lincoln early? Weird that Gordon wouldn’t see this large mistreatment of inhumans and then Jiaying probably would get involved. Or she would know to just stay away
I'm sure everyone else has said, but Elizabeth Henstridge was sick as hell filming this episode. I didn't notice her voice when it aired, but it's SO jarring now 🫢
The most amazing thing about this season is that the Ghost Rider arc at the start is the worst of the 3 arcs. One of my favourite seasons of any show. Buffy S5 is the only other one that I’d always put in that list.
Season 4 in its entirety is a masterpiece. As good as the first pod was (and it's my least favorite part of the season) every new twist and turn gets better and better until it's all thrown into a blender and set to scramble your mind. Iain is just fantastic. He plays different versions of Fitz even better than Brett Dalton does the different Wards. And this is still not even his final form!
I think Aida is the main reason why Jemma is dead in the Framework, she is in control of the whole 'world' so would make sense that she'd kill Jemma off. And now that Aida has cut their escape route, Skimmons are going to have a hard time working this all out!
I don't know that that was deliberate. Gemma was dead innthe Framework because she was working at the Academy when Hydra attacked. Remember that Gemma was always supposed to be put into the Framework.
I do think Aida tried to replace her, it's sort of obvious from how she introduced herself to Fitz in the Framework. However I always thought the way all of them ended up were they are was just dominos effect/ mathematical projections. Considering Fitz's biggest regret took him all the way back to childhood so their lives had to be re-written all the way back, and May's regret altered the mcu canon regarding inhumans and the role of Hydra, the progression is in some cases seems Random (like the change of who mentored ward) but in general I think it can feasibly thought of as just logical conclusions.
@@spamfilter32 But Ward was only an NPC in the Framework, he didn't get the "fixed regret treatment", actually neither did Daisy or Jemma, I know Skyward shippers want to believe Daisy not being with Ward was her biggest regret but the writing doesn't support that, it also requires you to believe Jemma's biggest regret was not being dead lol.
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So Elizabeth Heinstridge (Jemma) was actually sick/had a cold when they filmed this, which is why her voice is so weird. But it actuall ends up adding to it, considering she just took over a dead body and all.
Agents of Shield did What If... first 😋😋
14:33 The weapons are "interesting" because ICERs were never invented in this reality.
Why? Because Fitz and Simmons never met😭
We have reached PEAK levels that shouldnt even be possible. This is not just PEAK AOS, this is peak TV in my book.
This will be controversial ut I don't think that this is peak AOS. I think that season 5 is even better.
@@vojtechjanca9053 Even though i love season 5, I don't get the argument for why it's peak over season 4, especially the framework.
@@David-bf2cg It's way more emotional and tragic. I love how depressing it is and how the trying to save the world feels like ineviteble failure. I would say that season 5 had the best character development. They did so many interesting things with the characters. Like Coulson coming to terms with his death, Fitz and doctor Fitz blending together, Yo-Yo thought that she can't die, Talbot going nuts, Daisy trying to save Colson whatever it takes, May becoming mum for Roman and a lot more. I always liked the character aspect most about this shoew and I think that season 5 is best at it. Also season 5 feels so inescapable because it uses s ton of stuff from previous seasons. Like Ftzs theory about time, gravitonium, centipede, Kree and so on.
@@vojtechjanca9053 Delete this spoiler ridden trash of a post 👎
@@vojtechjanca9053 3 weeks too late, but remember that someone might consider it a spoiler. :)
In case no one mentioned, the reason Phil was able to believe it and remembered easier is because he went through the Tahiti project and his brain was tampered with. So his brain is less connected to the framework because it has more cracks in it. And it is cracked in a unnatural way so even Aida entering him in taking into account brain damage like Fitz it’s still different because Phil’s brain wasn’t damaged but actually edited. He had more gaps for his other life to slip in.
I also believe it is why Fitz seems to recognise Simmons a little bit. Because of his brain damage because if you notice May, Mack and Mace don’t have a single inkling that things are different. I know Fitz has a bit more outside knowledge because of Ophelia, and knows it’s a simulation but it seems his brain damage made the veil between his normal life and this life a little bit thinner. As he clearly recognised Simmons. But because his brain damage was a more natural one is why I think he didn’t recognise and change the same way Phil did. Because for Phil his broken brain stuff made him already suspicious of the framework and reality.
Elizabeth was sick during the filming of this episode which as bad as it sounds, it makes it so much better considering Jemma has literally come back from the dead
Just so you know, these are the best AoS reactions on TH-cam, next to Blind Wave. Good work. Love watching people learn how great this show is.
Ayy appreciate that so much. Blind Wave is always the best, wish I had a friend group like that, that was as passionate about this stuff as me. Maybe one day ill have group reactions lol
@@JustGavinBennett Do you have a discord? Maybe you should open one for it
My biggest regret? Not having the first season and a half from BlindWave.
Agreee❤
In addition to Coulson's drawings of the SHIELD logo and the line "It's a magical place" compulsively written many times, they include:
- newspaper article with the title 'Loyalist Felix Blake Given Parade: Hydra Hero and Human First Champion Celebrated for Advocacy"
- postcards from TAHITI
- a calendar for MAY with a photo of a car (Lola) on it
- an advertisement for a concert of a string quartet with a picture of a cellist (not Audrey Nathan, but just a cellist)
- a newspaper article with the title "LA QUAKE hits hard"
- newspaper article about the "Outbreak at the Academy" ("seventy three die in deadly biohazard breach") with Coulson's notes scribbled next to it*
- newspaper article with the title "Winslow Doctor Arrested for Subversion" about a person who was supposedly trying to turn humans into Inhumans (Coulson has underlined certain words like "DNA", "Hydra", "Inhumans" and scribbled notes like "How can a doctor do this?", "transformation", "WINSLOW?" and "what is his name?"
Teacher Coulson has obviously been thinking a lot and secretly questioning the Hydra propaganda, but he is also drawn subconsciously to certain names and words. "Winslow" in the title presumably referred to the location, but the name resonated with Phil for some reason - probably because "Dr Winslow" was Cal's new name after he underwent the TAHITI program.
I love stuff like this so much, just being able to pause and read it all. Feel bad a lot of react channels probably can't pause since they do full length watch-alongs that they have to sync up, but I'm glad I can lol! I picked up on most of that, and how his real world mind is connecting with his mind here, the Winslow thing I had no clue about though so thats awesome
@@JustGavinBennett Honestly the thing I enjoy the most is that, this is all slipping through because Coulson has had his memories messed with before, I love how they always tie things back to earlier stuff so it makes sense.
Glad you explained Winslow. I forgot Cal’s new name
Among the many things the "Framework" arc does brilliantly, I especially love how it explores the ways that experience and circumstances can shape what kind of people we become, while still leaving certain essential qualities intact. FrameworkWard is still loyal, resourceful, dedicated, and skilled at violence - but now he's also kind, principled, and with an un-stunted sense of empathy. And FrameworkFitz is still brilliant, creative, and deeply emotional - but now he's also cynical, angry, and almost incapable of admitting vulnerability or uncertainty.
Framework Ward punching Vijay Nadeer so suddenly to silence him is reminiscent of when Ward shot the fake "Clairvoyant" back in season 1, just this time Framework Ward actually works for Shield.
Yeah I said that in the episode haha but maybe it was in the discussion at the end
The entry that you read about Jemma that Daisy found in the Hydra database is an obituary that says she died in a tragic outbreak of biohazardous gas and that she's buried in UK was obviously a lie and a cover-up, as she has actually been shot, along many others, and buried in a mass grave. The article Coulson found is probably about a different but similar "accident" (since the number of victims is very different) that conveniently took the lives of people Hydra wanted dead. Love the little world building like that.
Also the guy who is dead in the mass grave beside her, I think is supposed to be death lock, if you look he has a metal eye or something.
Fun fact: The CGI model of the Triskellion is the exact same one as the one seen in CA: TWS. It was "loaned" to AoS by the VFX studio that built it for the movie.
I'm not a fan of love triangles, but the way AOS does them with Fitzsimmons is pretty great. Getting a good Grant Ward was really cool, feels like an interesting coda to the character and was kind of cathartic to watch as a fan, even if the initial betrayal still stings 10 years later. It's also interesting to see how they bring back certain characters in this, and the fact that they were able to get so many actors back feels like a real testament to how much the people who worked on the show loved it. Great reaction as always!
yeah, felt the same! it was like a Ward redemption arc...and *spoiler* in an upcoming episode getting a proper goodbye to a character that we lost kinda suddenly and who died for nothing
i love how the writers were able to put obstacles in fitzsimmons’ relationship without being corny or obvious (which is something tv shows used to do in 99% of the time). they pulled up the "love triangle" thing twice, while it wasn't exactly a love triangle and the two being completely different from each other plotwise. they always did great!
You maybe saw it better on a rewatch, but at the end, you sort of paused through the answers to your questions. Aida told Leopold that she had closed a loophole for their escape, which is why the button didn't work to wake them up.
Your reaction to finding out who the doctor is was perfect!
I love how much you love Jemma! Because same. She's been my fave since Day 1, the pilot episode!
And interesting behind the scenes fact: Elizabeth Henstridge was actually sick during the shooting of this episodes (well at least some of it) so that's why she sounds like that when she comes out of the grave. It wasn't on purpose but it really worked with the episode
Ohhh that makes sense I was half concerned and half thinking she was just acting and making her voice do that lmao
Elizabeth was sick during the shooting of the episode, so thats why her voice cracking but it was well timed since she is supposed to be recently dead in this world lol 😂
I think on one newspapers it said during this arc says that the Avengers were killed in the Cambridge Incident. This show has a better reason for Avengers not being available even in a virtual reality than Secret Invasion does throughout that entire show.
Madame Hydra has arrived! Also, remember the convo between May and AIDA earlier in the season when May was trying to escape the lab. Memory traces!
and yes, she's hot and good looking.
The chills this arc gives me...
AIDA in the Framework is pretty much supposed to be Madame Hydra from the comics, greenish hair and all.
Yeah I think I call that out next episode or something, and then I look at Marvel Snap and find out shes basically in it. Well, Madame Hydra is "Viper"
@@JustGavinBennett Ah, Viper, Another copyright confusing case
Fox had the right to Viper as she's an Xmem character, While Marvel retained Madam Hydra because of her connection to Hydra
All this despite being the same character, they just couldn't use both names for her
Honestly Fitz entrance was absolutely perfect
AOH was a surprise for everyone, sooooo well written.
9:36 The terragin outbreak didn't happen, most inhumans they're persecuting Inhumans without powers
Oooo thats makes sense. Though maybe Hydra was forcing them to unleash their powers by turning them with the blue soap lmao 🤣. Blue Soap Coulson has me convinced
Which makes it even worse. They aren't even threats, just potential ones.
Man, I want to watch episode 17 now🥲
Putting the show aside for a minute, I wanna appreciate you for your reactions this time..like honestly I've tried watching some other reactions but not one of them resonated with me or was this immersive! The way you calculate, come up with predictions and the overall excitement of 'ooh what's gonna happen next' honestly makes it one of the best reactions to watch!♥️
Thanks so much! ❤️ I’m not this way with every show, there are some reactions where I’ve been bored or have even given up on 2 shows in the past. This series however, just has had me gripped so far and I hope that doesn’t change in future seasons
@@JustGavinBennett That honestly makes me so happy to hear! This show is just really underrated!..I wish more people would get to know what a true gem this series is...
@@JustGavinBennett I don't think it will change. Some small ups and downs, but the show is solid to the end. What shows did you quit on?
@@David-bf2cg I quit on JoJo just because the views weren't worth the effort of posting all of them at the time. And I did the same with Bleach except I just didn't enjoy Bleach at all. They were some of the first things I started when I turned this into a react channel. Right now I have a pretty good idea of what I like and would want to react to.
@@JustGavinBennett Got you, I see. Anyways, im really glad you ended up giving this show a chance and that you are liking it so much.
The Real Secret Invasion is absolutely wild.
Framework Jemma's death explanation was describing an event from the comics, where a huge bomb was detonated, which killed a shit ton of people and spread Terrigen Mist, transforming the worthy into Inhumans. In Season 2, they went a different direction as they didn't want to go into nuclear bomb territory LOL
I see you decided not to wait 6 weeks between previous episode and this one like all the people who watched them live. Could you imagine the torture?
That you speculate that Madame Hydra is Agnes and not AIDA was something I never thought at all on first watch. I really just assumed that was AIDA, especially since last episode it was revealed she wanted to be a real person. If she could, she would in the framework.
Framework!Ward is my favorite iteration of Ward. This arc is just so dang good.
Cardboard Ward, Hydra Ward, SquadWard and FrameWard!
This arc is basically a very good interpretation of House of M, Wich Wandavision very loosely adapted
Just that instead of reality being altered, it's an alternate timeline in a simulation
I'm kinda happy about the few little twists you did not predict.❤
With all due respect to your ability to predict stuff - you're great at that.😉
I love Ward in the framework. It’s like this could have been Ward, if he’d made the decision to not follow Garrett (though who knows…) when he had the chance… so many feelings about this arc. It’s so good!
I always loved how significant it is for Coulson to say "Daisy". He was the one that always had trouble referring to her as Daisy instead of Skye, so when he sees her it would've made sense if he said 'Skye'. But then you couldn't be sure that he new the real her or the framework version of her. Him saying "Daisy" is everything!
Does anyone else notice that this story is similar to Secret Empire? You know, it's set in a Hydra controlled world, led by a hero whose history was rewritten to make them a member of Hydra, with the heroes as a resistance working against them. Given that the framework arc and Secret Empire both began in April of 2017, I wonder if it was a deliberate way to even make the TV show kinda tie into the event, or if it was a co-incidence.
I love the comparisons to Fringe! It is my second favorite show (after SHIELD) and a staple in my family. Loved the reaction, I never took the time to read Jemma's obituary, glad you paused on it!
I know everyone (including me) loves 4x15 but this episode is always gonna be one of my faves of the show and season! I just love getting to explore the new world, seeing good Ward and bad Fitz is so fun
You’re right about Fringe, another great show.
I may be straight but Fitz's new look tho
I've had the biggest smile watching your reactions to this and the previous episode! I got to watch 4x16 early at an AoS panel at WonderCon, and it's one of my favorite viewing experiences of anything.
Also love your Fringe love! Fringe and AoS are my all-time top two.
I like that you mentioned the Tardis reference！
I’ve never seen the doctor who or whatever the tardis is from lmao but I know of its existence
The framework arc is some of the best parts of AoS but it's hard to watch, like it's very dark and seeing this Fitz is just so hearbreaking, especially when you realize the things he'll have to live with after leaving, but he's also looking hot like I have many feelings!
17:40 he hasn't gone through terrigenesis. Remember while Daisy and Ward was interrogating him 13:10 and he said to give him the terrigen and Ill show you a threat 13:30
Vijay doesn’t have powers. Remember he said to give him some terrigen and he’d show them…something. He hasn’t gone through terrigenesis. They can test for inhuman dna before the change. Jemma mentioned that in traffic. So it hasn’t had the same outbreak. It’s weird that Lincoln has a file, because I feel like (given the episode) Afterlife hasn’t gotten involved. Maybe May saved the little girl before Lincoln changed? So with the early detection of inhuman dna, maybe they found Lincoln early? Weird that Gordon wouldn’t see this large mistreatment of inhumans and then Jiaying probably would get involved. Or she would know to just stay away
I'm sure everyone else has said, but Elizabeth Henstridge was sick as hell filming this episode. I didn't notice her voice when it aired, but it's SO jarring now 🫢
The most amazing thing about this season is that the Ghost Rider arc at the start is the worst of the 3 arcs.
One of my favourite seasons of any show. Buffy S5 is the only other one that I’d always put in that list.
Both Powers Booth (Malick) and Bill Paxton (Garrick) have died
WE MADE IT TO THEEEE ARC
Biohazard always works as a cover up. Lol even you bought that as a cover up for Jemma’s death
Honestly, i like the show "What if", but AOS did it first. And arguably did it better too.
The dwarves are goblins in this universe 😂
Jemma has the same middle name as Buffy, the Vampire Slayer (also created by J* Whedon). So I'm wondering who the real "Anne" is.
Season 4 in its entirety is a masterpiece. As good as the first pod was (and it's my least favorite part of the season) every new twist and turn gets better and better until it's all thrown into a blender and set to scramble your mind.
Iain is just fantastic. He plays different versions of Fitz even better than Brett Dalton does the different Wards. And this is still not even his final form!
Episode was a banger!
An hour ago? IM CAUGHT UP WOOHOO
I think Aida is the main reason why Jemma is dead in the Framework, she is in control of the whole 'world' so would make sense that she'd kill Jemma off. And now that Aida has cut their escape route, Skimmons are going to have a hard time working this all out!
I don't know that that was deliberate. Gemma was dead innthe Framework because she was working at the Academy when Hydra attacked. Remember that Gemma was always supposed to be put into the Framework.
I do think Aida tried to replace her, it's sort of obvious from how she introduced herself to Fitz in the Framework. However I always thought the way all of them ended up were they are was just dominos effect/ mathematical projections. Considering Fitz's biggest regret took him all the way back to childhood so their lives had to be re-written all the way back, and May's regret altered the mcu canon regarding inhumans and the role of Hydra, the progression is in some cases seems Random (like the change of who mentored ward) but in general I think it can feasibly thought of as just logical conclusions.
@@NoorAhmed-nk2jq regarding Ward. The Framework fixed his regret. That is why he was mentored by the Hand rather than by Garrett.
@@NoorAhmed-nk2jq Aida didn't think twice about Agnes. If she had, she would have tried to seduce Radcliffe in the Framework.
@@spamfilter32 But Ward was only an NPC in the Framework, he didn't get the "fixed regret treatment", actually neither did Daisy or Jemma, I know Skyward shippers want to believe Daisy not being with Ward was her biggest regret but the writing doesn't support that, it also requires you to believe Jemma's biggest regret was not being dead lol.
Yea this arc is amazing
18:18 funnily enough in my opinion the ghostrider section is the „weakest“ part of the season😅 AoS is just on a different level
best show ever
I like how Aida made herself into a real girl in her own fake world
Pra mim a presença do doctor é a mesma de quando descobrimos que p ward era hydra
Ano existe um episódio mediadno na quarta temporada, ela é perfeita! What if que explode cabeças, espero que aproveire esse terceiro ato!!
Alem de excelente atriz os eps que a Elizabeth digiriu em superman & loius