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I went back to The Strid to DEBUNK my own video + Update
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2022
- Today we revisted The Strid at Bolton Abbey to try and debunk my video from last year on the depth check. This time i use a new updated version of the sonar device which Deeper were kind enough to provide me to use for the video. The readings are somewhat similar this year but i think we have a greater understanding of how the device works this time. Maybe the real depth is the depth that the fish are detected at?
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Can’t imagine standing on wet moss next to that thing.
It's only water mate, not like he's stood that close to a lion or a bomb or stn
@@adamdickinson2894 I’m not that brave!
@@adamdickinson2894 it’s 60 meters deep and the water is going super fast. also some sections have so many air bubbles that you sink straight to the bottom, plus underwater caves and cliffs to trap you and keep you from swimming back to the surface . falling in is pretty much a death sentence
@@adamdickinson2894 As far as anyone knows, The Strid has a 100% mortality rate. You do not want to end up in it. He'd actually have better odds of surviving a lion.
@@adamdickinson2894 falling into this thing is a death sentence. At this and other specific spots the water is less buoyant due to the amount of air bubbles, meaning you dont float as easily. That means you sink because you literally cant swim back up. The water is dirty so you cant see anything underwater, there are undercuts under the rocks in the water so its like you broke through ice and now cant find where to get back out, on top of not being able to swim. Its up to 60 METERS deep. All of that in addition to the water's high speed and currents should ring ALL of your safety bells.
Falling into this river is death guaranteed and so far no one that fell in ever came back out, nor have the bodies been found.
edit; its up to 68 meters deep.
Seeing how narrow it is but knowing its 55m deep is terrifying
It’s not 55 meters. It’s 30 ft
Other researchers have done their own investigations, completely unrelated to this fellas videos, and they concluded some parts of the strid are indeed over 100 metres deep in places.
I live in addingham, just four miles along the road from the strid, and everyone locally knows the strid is very, very deep.
The river which flows into the strid, the river Wharfe, is a huge volume of water, and the flows turns 90 degrees to fit through the narrow passage of the strid.
30 feet of depth would be woefully insufficient to squeeze all the water in.
The river wharfe is huge.
The strid is massively eroded under the surface, like a rounded tunnel with just a narrow opening at the peak, and is anywhere from 180 feet deep to over 300 feet deep.
In a previous video with Gopro, you had captured what looked to me like the tip of a stone stalactite pointing downward. I repeatedly commented and even emailed the exact timestamp, but I expect you may never have seen it in the sea of feedback you received. Let me know if you'd like me to try and dig up the exact link and timestamp.
If it was indeed a stalactite, it would be evidence confirming the Strid quite possibly originated from an ancient cavern that was at least partially dry, but over the eons may have had its cavern cap eroded into and perforated by the river above, eventually inundating it to become part of this peculiar river section.
I saw that too and also found it very mysterious!
I saw a large stone down there surrounded perfectly by a lot of smaller stones on all sides, too. The water was very calm in that area. Literally looked like an old grave or something. The odds of those being magically pushed around by water to line it perfectly like that are ridiculously high. I linked to screenshots with timestamps and youtube kept removing them.
can u post the timestamp here please?
@@vafant idk if he's talking about this one: 02:02 i didn't watch the whole vid again but that looks like a stalactite
That is the only explanation for its existence.
I wouldn't bet on the readings of fish beeing correct. Those sonar devices register fish only by the echo of the air trapped inside their swimming bladders. So the reading showing lots of fish in relative "shallow" waters might only be the air bubbles from the cascade.
Wow nice i had no idea about that. Thanks for the info! Very interesting
@@mikw1809 What if it broke into an existing cavern?
@Mik W damn bro, can't believe a test someone did for the fuck of it doesn't match the standards of actual scientific work. We get it bro, you're smart, doesn't make being a prick acceptable.
@Mik W this is exactly what I'm talking about because I didn't even say you're wrong, just an ass, and you so gracefully came back to prove that.
@Mik W I love how you keep repeating that like I care. This was a video done for fun, this is not a scientific paper. I genuinely do not care that his methods aren't fucking flawless, or that he didn't consider the refraction of sonar in the cave. Either way, you seem like a horrid person to be around, so I'm going to stop being around you :). But I really would recommend getting down from that high horse, maybe then you'll notice that I *never* said you were wrong, and only said that you're one of the common people I meet in STEM who just HAVE to be right, under any circumstances.
You're scaring me how close you are getting to that thing.
Bring the Deeper sonar ball to a 12ft deep pool, and bring some sort of bubbler to test whether or not bubbles truly mess with the sonar's accuracy!
The bubbles will DEFINITELY mess with the accuracy. I used to own a yacht, I took it through the canals in France - when they started filling the locks the reading of depth goes haywire as it is passing through air bubbles.
Air bubbles absolutely mess with sonar. In WWII the first German countermeasure to British sonar was to release air bubbles to obscure their readings.
Thanks for the update! I'm perpetually surprised that no one with the resources to do a full-scale investigation of the Strid has stepped up to do one. You'd think somebody with the means would have been bitten by the bug by now.
Such effort would do little more than to confirm what is already known. Why would anyone bother?
In the U.S, they would invent some nonsense and create a 9 season series to retrieve the Holy Grail from a deep cavern, but this is England and we can't be bothered with that health and safety nightmare, plus all the divers are on strike.
@@saudade2745 some people are curious, others less so
@@Ratimus_ like everything. When profit is possible someone will satisfy the curiosity
@@saudade2745 true.
I don't know much of anything about the people or neighborhood in that area. But, our 🧐Strid Detective, did tell us that it is land that is owned by someone. I am imagining a situation where the prerequisites, in order to even convince the landlords of the land to get consent, would add up before even getting to the point of setting up for the dive, itself. A dive means people are putting themselves in high danger, and it seems that is the main concern. A path of lesser resistance, for an adventurer, or a curious mind, might be the common deciding factor in exploring elsewhere, instead of here. But, now that there is all of this attention… maybe we will all get to see enough motivation and gentle persuasion for a proper exploration of this place? But I am no diver, so I can only guess as to what a professional might have to say about this dive.
>With my negligable diving experiance, and my fortitude for engineering, I would personally take this challange by setting up a brace, at the top of the water fall. I would want to feed a long set of inter-locking pipes, straight down to the bottom, with a camera attached to the tip. this would mean fastening anchors to the rock at the surface to support the frame. So, a hammer-drill, and anchors. Like the way they anchor for rock-climbing, to set the feet of the frame in the rock. The frame would be a guide for the pipe. Similar to digging a well, but no need for drilling.This would leave three or four small alterations, after the rig is disassembled, and everyting is carefully taken away.
I worry that this man is so obsessed with this place. Danger coupled with mystery can produce a powerful siren's song.
He said it his second visit
Cringe...
I literally JUST discovered all your videos today. Really great work! So fascinating 👏
Love this Joanne, great to see that people are still discovering the Strid today. Really makes me happy that i can share this with everyone on here. Will look out for you in the comments of future videos :)
Yeah, we went there last week, water quite low with the heat, and less turbulent than usual.....Sonar on a rod & line so definitely with the probes facing down. The common misconception is that the strid is 10m (30ft). We measured 35m (115ft) approximately 3-4m downstream from the area you measured. We didn’t measure the turbulent area that you did, but we know (through our earlier readings) that the Strid gets deeper the further upstream you test. We also got fish swimming at 20m. So, it’s certainly a lot deeper than reported, and in my view supports the measurements that you recorded.
That rock is severely undermined, never stand on it again.
I would never do what this TH-camr did at standing on that rock and so close to a real death that represents that specific site, moreover the rock could be slippery
That seems pretty definitive to me. Sorry you can't get the dive together. Looking forward to your next adventure.
Thanks Barb it has been a lot of fun either way. Good memories for me there. Hoping to make some more :)
I spoke to my brother who has taught cave diiving for years. He sits down with Bull Sharks and goes diving in places few would follow. One look at your previous video he looked at me at said "Nope. Never"
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Always had a fascination for the strid since my dad took me there 35 years ago… amazed that there is pretty much zero data on this rare and somewhat wonder that’s completely accessible. So until someone says otherwise the strip is as lethal as it’s legend says it is, and certainly deeper than anyone anticipated. Appreciate it was dived some 45 years ago, however modern sonar, even DIY stuff will give a true reading.
Great work mate 👏🏼👏🏼, the fascination continues.
Rocks around the river are generally very slipry. There have been many instances where I fell into the river but fortunately those were not dangerous places but this strid is very dangerous. So be careful these rocks tend to be very slipry. I wouldn't go anywhere near this thing even if were given pizes of thousands of dollars.
i actually slipped into the strid and the bubbles carried me up to the top so much so that i was levitating above the water :O
@@daMillenialTruckerRiiiight. Nice story. Except aerated water causes you to sink, not levitate. You would have immediately been brought to the depths of the river, and drown as the riptide carried you away. Since there are no known survivors who have fallen into the Strid, which ghost would you be? 👻🙄
Love Bolton Abbey, really enjoyed your videos I've been many times. My sister went with her husband and 1yr old daughter, I used your video to put the fear of God into her about the Strid to keep her babbi close no matter how gentle the water looks, she had been quite relaxed about the issue but after your video and a lecture off me she got the message and didn't let her daughter out of her sight. That water makes me anxious when I see it.
Hey jo that’s good to hear I’m glad the videos serve a good example of the dangers of this place. Mountain rescue are trying to get authorisation to do a public safety awareness video here but they’re having difficulty getting permission so it’s good that my videos serve this purpose!
Thanks for the update That bit you climbed down to definitely looks like its an overhang, you can tell by the water flow coming from under it!
Its like a boiling pot. The colours were really popping today as well it looked like bubbling honey when the light hit it.
Stumbled onto this and it's quite fascinating. It's basically a canyon that's full to the brim. Quite hard to visualise. Glad to see you've got a lifdjacket on!
Even with that, it's still really dangerous. Great job.
I have this exact sonar for carp fishing and I can say that your measurements are wrong. Depth cannot be measured in a rapid river. in a 1 meter deep river it shows me up to 7 meters. The faster the current, the bigger the difference.
Crazy that a river that looks safe and tempting will kill you. Such an eerie feeling.
Doesn't look safe though, white foam, whirlpool currents and those weird stones
@@sayori3939 Only in certain places. The dark color however is a clue.
@@sandro5535 but in those calmer areas without the stone edges it's not really dangerous
@@sandro5535 it seems there's a stalactite at 2:02 in his video where he sent a gopro underwater :0 what the hell
@@sayori3939 dont be fooled by this river. Even if it doesnt look deep, even the normal looking spots can easily reach 30-35 meters with strong underwater currents. This whole river part is basically a cave or an inactive fauit line that filled up with water.
If you are wondering about the sonar device, test it in a spa turn the spa off, test the device, get a reading then turn it on and test it.. if the reading the same its will prove bubbles cant change the results..
Nice job coming back with sonar, now we know without a doubt this section gets nearly 200 feet deep. That with all the bubbles... I can see how this place claims lives.
We still don't know how deep it gets because we have no idea what the effect of all those air bubbles is. Sonar is already affected by things like water temperature and salinity, let alone by drastically lower densities as a results of millions of air bubbles. So although there is a possibility that the Strid really is 50-60 meters like his previous and current measurements showed, it's incredibly unlikely.
You can drown in an inch of water, so the depth isn't really that important.
The problem with using sonar in this environment are the masses of air bubbles. Air bubbles greatly interfere with sonar readings like fog does with car lights. You won't be able to solve those issues with the sonar available to you. A low tech solution might be indicated.
Cheapo dive computer
Maybe someone has suggested it already. You have a drone at your disposal. So it would be very easy to get the width of the river upstream and the bottom profile. Then measur the water velocity. ( throw in a piece of wood and measure the time it needs for a given distance) then Measur the velocity in the strid with the same method. And the width. Than you can calculate its depth. It will not be accurate to the meter, but it will give you a pretty good estimated depth.
Loving your work!!! i can't believe its that deep, thats just nuts i was sceptical on your first go but to confirm it twice! It would be great if the water could be channeled around just for one day to see a dry Strid and the effects of what the water has done. Yet still terrifying in a morbid curiosity kind of way
That wasn’t the deepest part lol. His max form a earlier vid was 66m. 210 ft… for a creek sized river.. that’s insane.. that deeper than more scuba cert can go.. in one of his videos he visualizes how deep that is. I hope u saw it
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Have you considered a simple lead line? Ok it;'s not going straight down but a five pound deep-sea weight isn't going 10s of metres off course either. Given that you can cast it in a nice conical shape with tapered ends you have a good chance of getting it back and ll. The easy way would be to simply purchase a downrigger weight from a game fishing supplier.
This!
Lots of skeletons down there. And swords from Arthur’s Round Table.
I'm fascinated by the Strid's many deep pockets, particularly if any of them go beyond 60 meters. It makes me think of the Mariana Trench and its deepest point, the Challenger Deep. It's a funny thought that if you discovered such depths, they could name it after you, just like they named the Challenger Deep after the vessel that located it! Continue keeping up with the Strid research videos. There's a wealth of potential research findings in this creeks
Ah yes the deadly jacksnack deeps
Falling in the water would be a death sentence. If it was a 100 metre cliff, falling would have a similar fate. Yet I bet no-one would stand on slippery rocks *that* close to a cliff without some sort of safety rope. Same danger, different perception.
People repeatedly warned him about this place and advised him regarding proper safety measures, yet he still didn't bother with any of it. There's no convincing some people.
I'd be fascinated to know the true depth. As I've previously mentioned I've been when the water levels were very low compared to normal and there was still no indication of the bottom in sight. It is possible the distance it was showing the fish at is the true depth though.
I don't know how fish behave in turbulent water like that but i would assume they try to get out of the bubbles? I would of expected them to swim beneath the turbulance but i know nothing about fish. Appreciate you stopping by and leaving a comment Rroff, its been fun regardless and i think the mystery will always be around for this place.
@@jackasnacks Angler here. Fish LOVE oxygenated water and bubbles.
@@jackasnacks Pet store employee here, our fish love to play in the bubbles.
I measured the depth myself with a weight and rope. There is also a sign up right at the side telling you the gorge is 9m deep.
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I just realized that what’s death for humans is a theme park for fish 😂
...first? really? So glad to see you're back, and I'm so excited to see what more you can find!
Hey Kaotiqua! Good to see you here so early :)
YES !!! I'm here for the Strid content all the way from New Zealand !! Keep it up Jack 💪💪
Legend!
Cool , hopefully in the future you can presume your task of exploring The Strid 😀 and thankxs for sharing.
Be safe out there and have an awsome time exploring 😀, God Bless You Jack.
Props for getting that close. You're a braver man than I.
Using sonar in a water that has so much air bubbles in it will be very hard / give bad results. Remember that sound travels at 1500m/s in water but only 340m/s in air. Thus the more air between the sonar and the bottom will make it look deeper than it is. Could explain the insane deep readings you got in the most turbulent area.
Well done for going back!!
Big thanks to Deeper for sending you the sonar. The results looked similar I think.
Perhaps the only way to reach a conclusion would be diverting the river!!
Good luck from Spain!!
Get some good 20 or 30 pound test fishing line, and put a 5 pound weight on the end of it. Position your sonar seeker about 1 foot above that on the line after you've fully waterproofed it. Now you can drop it in the water 4 or 5 feet, or all the way to the bottom and measure depth the entire way. Once you hit bottom, or close to it, you'll be able to measure the depth. So long as the weight is shaped right, should keep the sonar relatively stable, as well.
I love your videos! Thank you!
You Never Step Twice in the same River, but you can only Step Once in The Strid.
Last nite watched a different vid of you using a Sonar Ball to determine the depth of the Strid. I commented that it reminded me of the Slot Canyons in The Western USA. Over nite, I give this a little more thought. The Slot Canyons were carved from Sandstone like Petra. (And here I'll suggest 1 of my favorite Ancient Historian/Videographers, Paul Cooper,, "Fall of Civilizations." Fine stuff.)
This stone, I suspect, is Granite and even less forgiving.
While I don't wish these horrible droughts on anyone, but b/c so many rivers are drying up in Europe and other parts of the world, it would be fascinating see this river empty for a brief time.
Really extraordinary stuff you are doing. I didn't realize there were more vids. I'll be back to take another look.
Again Best Wishes, from the Eastern USA
Interesting video. I'm certainly no expert, but have done stream flow measurements using acoustic doppler systems a couple decades ago. They needed relatively laminar flow and even substrate to give decent flow measurements. Obviously you are just trying to measure depth, but the Strid looks like almost worst case for a sonar device. A low tech ground truth like dropping a heavy weight from your fishing pole and measuring the line unspooled wouldn't be precise due to drift but could see if in same ballpark as sonar.
You can see just behind where you are standing the air boils coming up from under the rock. Definitely showcases the ledge and overhang.
be careful near the edge jack , it can be slippy and my heart was in my mouth a few times.
There is no way to safely dive this part of the strid, cuz even with a tank and oxygen, the diver would continually get bashed into the rocks.
The best one can do is a submersible built for this purpose
Maybe contact James Cameron
Very kind of Deeper, those pro+ models are not exactly cheap!
THANK YOU! So, I had to entertain some children, from a class I was last minute subbing for... 1-3 graders. After all the work, it was raining and they could not go out for recess, so I told them a story. I told them about the STRID, and how no one that falls in can survive! I was then told about telling 1st graders scary stories, even if it is TRUE (the 2-3 graders loved it), but I just started talking about it. No plan at all. ALL THE QUESTIONS!! I admit, I both want to see the Strid and also NEVER GeT NEAR IT! Also just for safety sake, are there any MORE Strid like places on Earth???
love your videos man keep it up
Cheers Codeh awesome to see you here dude
Thanks for the update. Enjoyed all your previous videos about the strid . Stay safe 👍🏻
Use a down rigger with a heavy trolling weight. It will give you a physical reading of the depth near enough. Would settle the issue once and for all.
Thank you for another video from this place. Watching your standing beside the monster water floating that ball thing just to confirm how deep the river is…is a bit concerning! All the best from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺
I hope there will be a 3d mapping of the strid someday!
Thanks for doing the revisit. It's just like JFK, we can hypothesise but I don't think we'll ever know. Now let's get hiking and Drone flying. That would suit me. But thanks for going back.
YOU BE SAFE OUT THERE !!!! (said in an angry granny’s voice)
Maybe an alternative could be using a pole with a camera and a reasonably powerful torch attached to it. If it is only 9-10m deep, you should be able to see the bottom, right?
Its a sonar device using time of travel to calculate distance.
Maybe it can calibrate for water temperature. But not for a water and air foam. The software is doing a nice job with displaying data that at the receiver end must be as chaotic as the waterfall we can see.
Every bubble underwater will diffract, diffuse or reflect the sonar signal.
Is be interested to know if all the air bubbles in the water at the strid have an effect on the readings. Not sure what the minimum depth that the device can measure, but it would be an interesting control test to do
east way to test this idea is just use the device in a spa bath, ie test it without the bubbles then turn it on. it should be to hard to find a 1.2m deep spa to test it.
minimum on this device is around 1cm i think? Max is 100 meters.
54 M deep.
That's like a 15 floor towerblock.
Someone has to get some lydar/mapping/scanning going on there, thats insane, I just cant picture a 60 metre deep channel that is only 5 feet wide!!!!!
Mind boggling!!!!
Ok just a suggestion, get like a 40kg weight on a a horizontal steal and lower it in by rope with depth markings on the rope, as said all this sonar stuff cannot be accurate with the bubbles...simpler might be better ....I would suggest many people are happy for this to carry on as the mystery is keeping the place going ...another thing is how do fish survive if it’s that bad?
That's a good idea!. Fish are very adept at swimming those that can will easily go up and down there probably swimming lower down avoiding currents. What would drown a human is firstly shock from the cold, then comes being instantly submerged out of your depth, thirdly by the time your waist deep your legs will be getting pulled along by the current. Assuming you haven't been knocked unconscious already. Your now in a fast flowing river with probably no air in your lungs and currents pulling you any which way in a flash!. Not good. I guess whether you survive depends where you fall in.
What's wrong with throwing a weight in and measuring how much line unspools when it hits the bottom?
That’s probably the most dangerous thing I’ve seen anyone do on TH-cam, one wrong move and it’s over, you sink like a stone to the bottom, and who knows what horrors await you down there in your last moments…
Looking at that water there looks very aerated and not very buoyant to say the least.
It isn't and he shouldn't, he was not sure footed either!?!
He gonna keep screwing around till he falls in.
For the comments that your probe was pointing up- or downstream, you could account for that by intentionally rotating the probe upstream and down in the same spot. The depth readings should create something roughly looking like an inverted parabola as it passes by the spot directly below the probe, and the maximum of that parabola would be your depth reading. (This of course assumes a flat riverbed, which is unlikely, but finding a best fit curve to those readings would give you a reasonable estimate.)
As for the bubbles influencing the measurement: Maybe you and/or the company producing the device could do a test? You can go to a pool, measure the depth without bubbles, and then add a lot of bubbles (with a pump or compressed air) and see if and how much it influences the measurement. It won't directly help you measure the depth of the Strid, obviously, but it will give some insight into the bubble question.
I began watching this channel because of the videos about the strid. I will also recommend others to watch the other videos.
On another topic, watching from the comfort of my house, I was encouraged to get out there walking by you and a few others. I sat there watching and thought why not. So if it was not for a select few I wouldn't be out there hiking in the Peak District. Thank you.
Chris that's awesome and i'm sure there are some interesting walks around the Peak District. I have a few pinned on my maps down that way that i'm sure i will end up doing some day. Appreciate you dropping in on these videos, it does mean a lot to see the same names appear
@@jackasnacks it's my pleasure. Strid aside, they are great vlogs with beautiful views. I needed a target to achieve so I went with The Ethel Challenge. There are 95 Ethels in The Peak District. Admittedly I'm only 5 in but I aim to complete at least 2 a week. They are on an App so I can map out where I want to go and hit 2 or 3 at the same time. Going from zero fitness and being old, as you would pigeon hole me 🙄, it does take the wind out of me and tires me but even after a few walks I can feel the strength come back. Prior to covid we wouldn't think twice about walking 6 miles a day on holiday but with all this covid inactivity I find myself lacking in the stamina department. Don't get me wrong, I'm tenacious, but slow at the moment. My first Ethel was Mam Tor, wiped me out. The next week I did Hen Cloud and The Roaches with a 6 miles circular route. Buggered after, but I did it. So yeah, getting there. But I'm on your vlogs every time. I'm just loving everything hiking at the moment. Not bought much in the way of gear just in case I didn't take to it but definitely need trekking poles. Went a cropper today up Ramshaw Rocks. Luckily just face plant and lost skin off my arm. 😳🙄 But as I'm doing more I think I need the little extras to help me. Sorry for the diatribe, keep up the great work.
@@jackasnacks The Great Ridge is a good one but lots of old folk and kids at busy times. You can either park at the bottom of the old broken Buxton Road and go up to the saddle at Hollins Cross or by Blue John Caves and up Mam Tor. If you park in Town and do a loop trail then you pay car park fees. Cheapskate here lol.
Yeah
Im hooked on the Strid now
Seems legit. The readings don't look like random noise, they're fairly consistent. And it's mostly in line with what you measured before. That's good evidence imo.
Good to see you back! Always interesting!
Hey Troy thanks for coming by to check out the new video!
Great update ! Thanks for the lovely scenery as well :)
I wonder what would happen if you went to the strid at night with an infared camera? You can get an infared spotlight and see right into the water
Wondering if it is in fact a breakage line in the earth surface ......?
Is it not also extremely dangerous for dogs who like to take a short swim?
I've worked with sump divers for 20 years. Some of the dive sites in caves that they do reach 40 meters. None of them would even consider diving there in that strong current flows.
I've also worked with sonar systems that look down into channels to measure flow rates. I suspect that the sonar your were using was picking up returns that had bounced back and forth along the walls when you got the 65 meter readings.
I would think the air bubbles affect the sonar reading.
Inches away from death; risking your life in the name of knowledge. Hats off to you!
A place like that here is the U.S. would be all fenced up because it's a culture that tends to held others accountable for their own bad actions. At least the UK seems to be a little more sane in that matter.
Why don’t you use a clear plastic sphere and place the go pro inside, maybe two facing opposite directions. Keep them right side up and put lots of weight right under the sphere about a foot down. Use strong rope and drop the sphere in. The sphere will be suspended hopefully right side up but not totally on the ground as the weights will be the ones dragging and not the camera. This is similar to fishing but putting the lead Weight further down the line so the hook floats in the middle
Standing on that mossy rock gives me the heebie jeebies.
Another excellent video dude. Can't wait for your next adventure.
True story a man lost his dog in a part of the stride an old lab . Next day him and his brother with scuba kit and a rope ( in the 90s when men were men ) took his dead dog home . I will ask him what part and how deep it was and post it on here 😀
Beautiful Video Thank you for Sharing. I'm glad I get to enjoy your videos 🤙🏾👊🏾
Cheers Kevin nice one for checking it out 👍
Dump a cheap dive computer down there, that has depth logging or at least max depth function.
I only believe those 60m, if it's a pressure reading, sonar could be pretty much anything, on a 2m wide and apparently 60m deep slot. Cross reflections from walls, bubbles...
A robotic submersible would be amazing and less dangerous than diving it! I don't have one though sorry😅
If I was there I feel like there would be this dark part of me that would want to jump right in, a kind of call of the void so to speak.
Everyone has those thoughts lol, they're called intrusive thoughts. I get them sometimes when driving on bendy roads that overlook a cliff.
@@mydogeatspukeThey are literally called "call of the void", like the OP said. That is the clinical term for the thoughts that people get when they have a sudden urge that is out of character to harm themselves, and is fleeting. They were stating how they would feel, and how they feared they would get that feeling, because it is common and they likely experience it a lot. They used the term properly and didn't require any correction.
@@jenx5870 call of the void is not a clinical term LMFAO. Crying out loud. The clinical term is intrusive thoughts, like I already said. Take your meds, attention seeker.
Get FiFish to sponsor you - Have a look at the Lost Mines channel they were given a FiFish to explore mines. It should have the power and range you need. If you launch in the slower water and follow the bottom it might work.
A lead weight on a Stout Line marked with Fathom Ribbons would answer depth question.
I’ve got to say you seem incredibly close to the water,and as others have said on/near slippery rocks and moss. Is that part of river as dangerous as I think it is? Be careful out there!!
If one studies and registers the horizontal rock.faces that Jack.is walking on…their swirls and scours, then imagine them turned vertically, and facing each other just 6ft apart but 200 ft down…be scared…very scared.
What does 200 feet look like? Stand at the foot of Malham Cove or Gordale Scar and look up.
This is sweet dude, such a cool follow-up
Always a pleasure seeing your name pop up dude
@@jackasnacks it was awesome seeing this in my notifications
The strid is deep, confirmed 👌🏼
I have to say it made very nervous with you standing on the slippy moss right on the edge there. I hope you continue to be very careful in your research. Maybe think about wearing a PFD when you're close the edge!
56m is still deep! 😱😱😱 I know your were wearing a life jacket but it still made me nervous watching you getting to the edge. Is it possible to use a drone to get the ball closer to the waterfall?
I could use the drone but my issue was keeping to sonar ball against the water. It gets thrown around in there and i just get errors on the reader! Yeah i don't mean to make people feel nervous about me getting close to the edge but i assure you i put a lot of thought into every step before i put my weight into it!
@@jackasnacks thanks for doing it though. I'm from Ireland and I can't believe there's an area like that next door (I consider the UK next door 😊 ). The Strid has only come to my attention last year and I find it truly fascinating. Good luck on your next adventure!
haha thats awesome yeah you're a stones throw away. Glad you found and enjoyed the adventure we've been going on. Enjoy your weekend Aileen!
@@jackasnacks You should wear a harness with a rope safely anchored to a tree or boulder above, and have a partner there to help.
THE STRID!
STRID GANG!
Are you sure that a sonar ball like this even works properly in extremely turbulent/aerated water?
It needs a sonar setup like Adventures With Purpose uses. Mount it on a float then rig up a winch above the fall to slowly pull it upstream. I bet the aerated water just below the fall is screwing up the sonar readings. It needs a 360 degree camera and light setup mounted on a rigid pole that can be lowered from directly above.
I just wish the water would stop flowing through there for 1 day so we can walk through it ☹️ but yeah a rig setup above it would be very useful for a range of different ideas. Again though I’d need permission for something like that and the estate would probably have something to say about it
@@jackasnacks IS the river private ? IS there any laws about diverting a river within the stream bed ? In the states its illegal to divert any river or creek with out permission.
HIya, id love to scan this river however 3d imaging sonar cost around 60k usd, i wonder in there's enough interest to crowd fund around 100k to travel there set up a frame and scan the entire strid.
Hey monkey I honestly believe that 3D image scanning is one of the stronger contenders out of all the ideas. It’s non invasive and generally efficient to setup. I’ve had a number of emails from solo experts to actual companies that do 3D imaging as a service that could do this. Like you say though the cost is quiet high. I think 3D imaging is something the estate would agree to have done. Lots of health and safety involved still though
Yep, that 3d sonar is meant for deep sea exploration and oil companies they cater to very low volume sales for institutions that have deep pockets. Both options i looked into were around 60k USD for the sonar system alone.
@@jackasnacks I don't get it then if they have the tech , how come they would come do it? Id bet you it would be worth doing free for publicity. I would do it for free if i had the equipment, there's another mystery location id like to scan as well.
Also how about buying some one mm wire rope and a 2 kilo weight to measure, one mm rope to cause very little drag and a heavy weight so hopefully it sinks straight down
Thanks, we'll take whatever we can get
how about putting a heavy weight (1kg lead etc) on a fishing line and just let it go to the bottom? if you manage to do so, make sure you are using braided line, not monofil.
this way you could quite easily rule out the possible false calls with the sonar.
Could the fish you detected just be the bubbles churned up by the waterfall?
Thank you for going back to do this Jack
No probs madcat 👍🏻 thanks for checking it out
Great series of vids and discoveries, Sir, but please wear a harness and lanyard next time you go near that beast. You have a lot of likes which means we don't want YOU to be the story next time.
I probably could jump in and come right back up
Please, please use some safety gear, Harry Potter. I'm serious - you're way too close to the Strid with no protection and no backup safety. You could just slip in and disappear. You're obviously smart - but taking that kind of risks isn't.