Hi Will just came across your videos while looking at camper vans and I'm glad I did. Thanks for your informative videos that answer a lot of the concerns and questions I have. I'm new to camper vans I haven't bought one yet, but I know it's definately something I have to try. So I will continue to watch and hopefully take the next step. Peace out. Mike
You’re probably already doing this: check your oil level regularly for high consumption. There’s a manufacturer recall affecting the Tigershark engine on the Dodge 200, and the PMC. I don’t remember the maximum quantity rate, but if you’re exceeding it, it’s an engine replacement, free of charge. I’ve got a 2015 PMC with over 100,000 miles and no issues with the engine. It runs well, and I get over 30 mpg highway. Seats are comfy, I’ve done numerous 1000 mile+ trips with it.
Can’t find anymore new versions of these since last summer 2023 I believe. I test drove these years ago. I should have bought one for $20,000 brand new!!!!! Yes $20,000!!!! I wanted to pay off my current vehicle Jeep Renegade which shares the same engine and transmission. I heard about “oil consumption” but I change my oil every 3000 miles. I only have a little over 50,000 miles on my renegade currently in 2024. I saw a used promaster city that had about 279,000!! Lol wow. It has the ability to go that long apparently. They are even selling it for $6000. I need this van for daily use. My visits to the store like Walmart and sams club. My renegade has room but I really could use unlimited space and easy cleaning too. Sliding doors etc. I saw one used for $35,000 and it has 6000 miles. Even used they are expensive here with low miles. Smh.
I bought a new 2018 in 2019 had 5 miles on it. For $21,000. No issues. They put out recall on the oil issue, got mine tested. No issues. I know someone who had the same truck and failed oil test. The dealership replaced the engine.
Supposedly no. Dealer mechanics won’t do it. But all transmissions need oil changed eventually. Try an independent mechanic. People on TH-cam made videos doing it themselves. I have a Jeep Renegade with this same engine and transmission.
So the concern is this: when in 2020 was it built? Obviously the components should be good. But if it was built during late 2020, labor training and QC would be suspect. Likewise, I would not buy a vehicle made in 2021, as the labor/QC affects not just the vehicle assembly but the components too. Be aware that decades of accumulated knowledge was being wiped out on the assembly lines due to Covid and hastily replaced by on the job trained workers.
Anyone have this van? How’s it be so far? Looking at a 2015 with 95km but want to know what I’m getting into first before buying it? How’s yall experience with them?
I have a 2015 SLT Wagon version and it's been a good vehicle for me. No major issues at all. I love it because I can haul my mountain bike inside. It drives nice, comfy, and I don't have the oil consumption issue that some people have
These vans had the potential to be great, unfortunately the engine Dodge put into these Fiat designed, make in Turkey where garbage. I have a loaded 2018 wagon version that I bought brand new at a local dealer and about 10,000 miles in, the engine failed and they had to changed the engine under the factory warranty. No wonder they discontinued this model.
POS. Worst vehicle I've ever owned. Bought brand new. Burned 1 quart of oil every 1000 miles, which RAM says is acceptable. Holds less than 5 qts, oil change interval is 8000 miles...that math doesn't add up. Despite adding oil to keep at the proper level, the engine DIED at 57,000 miles. The dealership had to replace half the engine at zero charge, ONLY because of a class action lawsuit settlement that extended the warrantee. No "cost," but a month of downtime for my business for the repair. After the repair, it still burns a qt of oil every 1000 miles. DO NOT BUY.
@@WillandRambo Considering that the class action lawsuit was because of this exact issue with the engine, I don't think I'm that unlucky. Not isolated to Promaster City either, as they put this engine in several Jeep models as well, and the same oil consumption issues have been reported.
FYI oil change intervals doesn't mean you will have not added oil between changes.These are good vehicles for people who do the maintenance. The oil issue wasn't a blanket issue and they are solid.I can get 300k just by upkeep and not abusing it.330K on my last promaster.I drive professionally so I see the big miles.
Hi Will just came across your videos while looking at camper vans and I'm glad I did. Thanks for your informative videos that answer a lot of the concerns and questions I have. I'm new to camper vans I haven't bought one yet, but I know it's definately something I have to try. So I will continue to watch and hopefully take the next step. Peace out. Mike
You’re probably already doing this: check your oil level regularly for high consumption. There’s a manufacturer recall affecting the Tigershark engine on the Dodge 200, and the PMC. I don’t remember the maximum quantity rate, but if you’re exceeding it, it’s an engine replacement, free of charge.
I’ve got a 2015 PMC with over 100,000 miles and no issues with the engine. It runs well, and I get over 30 mpg highway.
Seats are comfy, I’ve done numerous 1000 mile+ trips with it.
Thanks will do.
You don’t get over 30 mpg on the highway, don’t lie, that or you’re bad at maths and drive around with an empty van
@@alwo3678I have a ScanGuage installed, so either my ScanGuage is a lier, or you’re a troll.
This will be my next vehicle so I’m exited for this
Hope you live an a hot climate
Very nice vehicle. I appreciate your candor. Great review and helpful.
Just bought a used one and started build
Hi. What is the size of the fold-out bed? Is it suitable for two?
is there a way to plug in for shore power if needed?
I have this van and love it!!
Dang it just missed the premiere, I was just waiting to start :/.
Same as Fiat Doblo in the Uk
Can’t find anymore new versions of these since last summer 2023 I believe. I test drove these years ago. I should have bought one for $20,000 brand new!!!!! Yes $20,000!!!! I wanted to pay off my current vehicle Jeep Renegade which shares the same engine and transmission. I heard about “oil consumption” but I change my oil every 3000 miles. I only have a little over 50,000 miles on my renegade currently in 2024. I saw a used promaster city that had about 279,000!! Lol wow. It has the ability to go that long apparently. They are even selling it for $6000. I need this van for daily use. My visits to the store like Walmart and sams club. My renegade has room but I really could use unlimited space and easy cleaning too. Sliding doors etc. I saw one used for $35,000 and it has 6000 miles. Even used they are expensive here with low miles. Smh.
Wow! Where do you live?
@@WillandRambo south central Texas.
I bought a new 2018 in 2019 had 5 miles on it. For $21,000. No issues. They put out recall on the oil issue, got mine tested. No issues. I know someone who had the same truck and failed oil test. The dealership replaced the engine.
Would I fit in this van? I’m 6’2 265lbs they look soo small when I see them on the road…looking for a detailing van
What about the transmission ?.
Can it be a carpet cleaning van?
It’s an empty van.. you can use it to haul dead people.. it won’t ask questions.
@WillandRambo lol, carpet cleaning has alot of equipment, heavy equipment.
I think it has the best load rating in its class, around 1800lb. The regular Promaster would be better but this seems to do well for its size.
Can the transmission fluid be changed ?
Supposedly no. Dealer mechanics won’t do it. But all transmissions need oil changed eventually. Try an independent mechanic. People on TH-cam made videos doing it themselves. I have a Jeep Renegade with this same engine and transmission.
So the concern is this: when in 2020 was it built? Obviously the components should be good. But if it was built during late 2020, labor training and QC would be suspect. Likewise, I would not buy a vehicle made in 2021, as the labor/QC affects not just the vehicle assembly but the components too. Be aware that decades of accumulated knowledge was being wiped out on the assembly lines due to Covid and hastily replaced by on the job trained workers.
Build date: March 2020
I think you literally got one of the last ones not afflicted by Covid disruptions. Congrats!
Who knows.. fingers crossed!🤞
It’s an American vechile, quality control is always an issue no matter when it was built.
Anyone have this van? How’s it be so far? Looking at a 2015 with 95km but want to know what I’m getting into first before buying it?
How’s yall experience with them?
Join the FB group.. don’t ask here.. lol
I have a 2015 SLT Wagon version and it's been a good vehicle for me. No major issues at all. I love it because I can haul my mountain bike inside. It drives nice, comfy, and I don't have the oil consumption issue that some people have
my take 14,8 gpm
These vans had the potential to be great, unfortunately the engine Dodge put into these Fiat designed, make in Turkey where garbage. I have a loaded 2018 wagon version that I bought brand new at a local dealer and about 10,000 miles in, the engine failed and they had to changed the engine under the factory warranty. No wonder they discontinued this model.
POS. Worst vehicle I've ever owned. Bought brand new. Burned 1 quart of oil every 1000 miles, which RAM says is acceptable. Holds less than 5 qts, oil change interval is 8000 miles...that math doesn't add up. Despite adding oil to keep at the proper level, the engine DIED at 57,000 miles. The dealership had to replace half the engine at zero charge, ONLY because of a class action lawsuit settlement that extended the warrantee. No "cost," but a month of downtime for my business for the repair. After the repair, it still burns a qt of oil every 1000 miles. DO NOT BUY.
I’m on my 2nd one and I don’t have your issue. Sorry but you’re prob one of the unlucky ones.
@@WillandRambo Considering that the class action lawsuit was because of this exact issue with the engine, I don't think I'm that unlucky. Not isolated to Promaster City either, as they put this engine in several Jeep models as well, and the same oil consumption issues have been reported.
Diesel engines we have in Europe for these are pretty reliable, it's a bad thing that people don't like diesels in the USA.
FYI oil change intervals doesn't mean you will have not added oil between changes.These are good vehicles for people who do the maintenance. The oil issue wasn't a blanket issue and they are solid.I can get 300k just by upkeep and not abusing it.330K on my last promaster.I drive professionally so I see the big miles.
The 2.4L engine in the promaster is garbage.
Something everyone needs to know, THIS VAN IS UTTER GARBAGE IN THE SNOW, even with snow tires. Sits and spins
What about with chains? Thanks
I put snow tires on and have no problem and I live in a snow belt in central Ontario. Just as good as any other front drive vehicle