Edgard Varèse, Ionisation - Ensemble intercontemporain

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ธ.ค. 2024

ความคิดเห็น • 397

  • @patrickkeenan8443
    @patrickkeenan8443 5 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Performed this many years ago, forgot how much groove there is to certain sections. Grade A club smasher.

    • @iainctduncan
      @iainctduncan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here! one of my most memorable musical experiences in my life. what a trip.

    • @KonStafylides
      @KonStafylides 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hey man, freshman musicology student, just wanna say I love your comments. I just saw you commenting on Webern's symphony Op. 25, it's nice to see people that aren't a) lmao frank zappa or b) holy fuck im 145 years old and love this

    • @patrickkeenan8443
      @patrickkeenan8443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@KonStafylides I love Webern. He really was on top of his pointilistic serial banger game. Whenever I hear his 5 bagatelles dropped in the club I lose my shit.

    • @KonStafylides
      @KonStafylides 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@patrickkeenan8443 Keep it up lmfao

    • @m.s.g1890
      @m.s.g1890 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KonStafylides Zappa

  • @chuliard1967
    @chuliard1967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    When you watch a clip like this on TH-cam, you’ll never be interrupted with advertisements.

    • @sonicsabbath
      @sonicsabbath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Adblock plus does that

    • @talastra
      @talastra 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@sonicsabbath That's not the joke :)

    • @talastra
      @talastra 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hilarious. Well done. I smiled for the first time today :)

    • @spangalang
      @spangalang 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cause you know big Eddy V's gonna be coming to collect if you allow advertising.

  • @wowhitedrs
    @wowhitedrs 11 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I am delighted anyone undertakes a performance of Edgar's wonderful landmark work! Bravo for you ! I have studied and been an admirer or Edgar since 1969! Thank you for keeping Varese alive and in the halls.

  • @eastportland
    @eastportland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Frank and Ruth. I'm still a fan. They're still my heroes.

  • @6StringPassion.
    @6StringPassion. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Studied Varèse at Juilliard back in the 70s.

  • @DerUfen
    @DerUfen 11 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    This is beautiful. I don't believe that I'm able to comprehend entirely what's going on. But the sheer sounds of the instruments as they go along in the composition are very stimulating. I would love to hear that in a concert hall.

    • @BethanyLowe8773
      @BethanyLowe8773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If you're enjoying it, you're understanding it! Maybe not true of all pieces of music but here the sound and the vibe are all important :)

    • @jeffryphillipsburns
      @jeffryphillipsburns ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BethanyLowe8773 It depends what you mean by “understand”. I think DerUfen means he doesn’t see how the piece is structured. It also depends what you mean by “sound”. A melody by Puccini is just a series of sounds (at least as performed), but the timbre of the voice singing and the timbre of the orchestral instruments accompanying are secondary to the pattern of the sequence of pitches (in other words, to the structure of the melody). You don’t have to be able to articulate analytically that structure, but if you can’t apprehend it synthetically, you”ve missed the melody entirely.

    • @irmin8196
      @irmin8196 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Spectralmusic hat auch etwas mit Mathematik zu tun! Diese Aufführung ist einfach nur grandios!

    • @talastra
      @talastra 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BethanyLowe8773 Sometimes understanding it is the opposite of enjoying it too.

  • @9uweeoncbmd890
    @9uweeoncbmd890 7 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Fantastic recording. Glad the mixing was capable of making all instruments properly audible unlike many other recordings available on TH-cam.

    • @ensembleinter
      @ensembleinter  7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thanks !

    • @jeffryphillipsburns
      @jeffryphillipsburns ปีที่แล้ว

      Mixing? Real composers don’t depend on mixes to patch holes in their scoring. An important part of composing is writing in such a way as to achieve a proper balance-without the artificial use of mixing boards.

    • @2112426gh
      @2112426gh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That runs a cold second to...
      Musicians capable of Dynamics!
      Ie all the instruments can be heard in a proper fashion, as the composer intended.

  • @fuel925
    @fuel925 11 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It's awesome listening to all the different timbres of the percussion instruments, and the variety of sound that can be coaxed from each instrument depending on how it is played. Great audio quality too :)

  • @elainebmack
    @elainebmack ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven't heard this piece since I was in college. Great job here. The different timbres, articulation, and style are perfect. One might think that a percussion piece would be all loud - boom bang boom- but not this one. Superb camera work too.

  • @pawdaw
    @pawdaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Perfect tempo. Textural clarity.

  • @dc5815-j1n
    @dc5815-j1n 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this is my favourite roadtrip song

  • @zolarczakl3880
    @zolarczakl3880 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Zappa had this record and would put chalk marks on the vinyl where the loud parts came in to cut to them when trying to impress his friends with this music. The average teen in the 50s was listening to Elvis and Pat Boone...

    • @MrTheBaron
      @MrTheBaron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      At the final months of his life, the last work Frank did was producing an album of Varèse performed by the Ensemble Modern, with whom he had worked with for The Yellow Shark. The session even saw Nicolas Slonimsky, the conductor of the premiere performance of Ionisation and a friend of Frank, take up the baton and conduct the piece. That album has yet to be released.

  • @dwh82001
    @dwh82001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    That had to have been the most sensitive and moving performance of an air raid siren I’ve ever heard.

    • @adude9882
      @adude9882 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I found it tastefully understated.

  • @mh1almighty
    @mh1almighty 10 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Totally blown away! When i first heard the audio of this, I had my fair share of doubts if anyone would be able to pull this off live. You guys did a splendid job!

    • @jeffryphillipsburns
      @jeffryphillipsburns ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What? You thought the “audio” was put together by overdubbing, splicing, and punching in? That’s not how a real composer works.

  • @SpyrosPanouts
    @SpyrosPanouts 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Another classic side with percussion.

  • @hughshrapnel4448
    @hughshrapnel4448 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wonderful piece - what an ending!

  • @alexjohnston2439
    @alexjohnston2439 7 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    I have a theory about why the teenage Zappa loved this so much.
    Listen to it. The snare drum has a definite motif. Zappa’s first instrument was marching band drum. He was taught the rudiments, and the recorded evidence shows that he wasn’t a bad drummer. The snare drum is basically the lead instrument in this piece, with the sirens an important supporting instrument.
    Zappa grew up with a father who worked as a contractor for the Department of Defense. He spent the earliest years of his life growing up next door to Edgewood Arsenal in the Aberdeen Proving Grounds in Maryland. He must have got used to the sound of sirens; they used to be used all the time. I had friends as a kid who lived in Cork city in Ireland, and sirens were used every morning to alert dock workers that it was time to clock in. You could hear them all over the city. They must have been used even more frequently in US military installations, if only for emergency drill purposes.
    The teenage Zappa hears a piece of modern music that incorporates snare drum, his own instrument, and sirens, the sound he most didn't want to hear.
    No wonder he wanted to become a composer.

    • @jsbrules
      @jsbrules 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I should hate to make another silly comment, but: surely we must all agree that Zappa continued to be very good at the "rudiments".

    • @robvillevoye6076
      @robvillevoye6076 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Zappa was a schild of the cold war thearetenings in the 50/60ties and thus, growing up in a military zone used to the alarms of danger. Read his own whritings in the Great Frank Zappa book or in 'the negatieve dialect of poodle playing'. My english is not so good but I do understand where he got his musical conuntation . Overall: Zappa learnt me so much about art . Look further than what society is trying to get you focussed on. Edgar Varesse, stockhausen, Nam June Paike and Zappa and all those fantastic minds have shown me another way of thinking listening being. The modern day composer refuses to die.

    • @AndreaMercurioMusic
      @AndreaMercurioMusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know it's old but, what a fascinating theory Alex ! I really liked that !

    • @jfleminator
      @jfleminator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cool. Can we get a psychoanalysis for why he might have liked webern, stravinsky, amd the shaggs?

    • @zolarczakl3880
      @zolarczakl3880 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jfleminator
      I believe Zappa liked the Shaggs because they were so horribly bad, they were a force to reckon with.

  • @davewestner
    @davewestner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nicely done. Well played, recording sounds great and nice videography.

  • @JahnBeukesMusic
    @JahnBeukesMusic 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    BRAVO! Awesome work, ladies and gentlemen!

  • @19200ussel
    @19200ussel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Écoute conseillée par un ami cher et c'est en cela qu'on reconnaît ces vrais amis ...

  • @sandc411
    @sandc411 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome. just awesome...

  • @dgunde13gunderson78
    @dgunde13gunderson78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This reminds me of my alma mater UCSD.....we'd have these strange concerts going on constantly. Varese was best man when
    Nicolas Slonimsky was married in the 30s....great bio fr latter: Perfect Pitch. Kind regards Dgunde, viola, piano, etc.....

  • @benzimmermanmusic
    @benzimmermanmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kudos on the multiple cameras for a Varese piece !

  • @Steve27775
    @Steve27775 10 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    To me, it seems to be about aerial bombing. It could be considered as an audio complement to 'Guernica'. Building up to it - banging the drums of war, air-raid sirens, the deafening explosions, sirens becoming wails of despair, then just an eerie silence. But it's open to virtually limitless interpretations.

    • @charliem9579
      @charliem9579 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree this would be a good soundtrack for viewing Guernica.

    • @EtcEtcAndEtc
      @EtcEtcAndEtc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @Jack Clare don't be such an absolutist, there is no rule on how you 'should' listen to music. Often the composer may intend the music to conjure images. Music is rarely entirely abstract.
      Plenty of stuff in music can be explained and discussed, but you may be uncomfortable with
      the fact that you will rarely reach a definite conclusion, as to receive a clear answer you must first ask a clear question!

    • @austinshoupe3003
      @austinshoupe3003 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's pretty strong evidence that the composer didn't have any real world imagery for this. He was a descendent of the futurists, who believes heavily in breaking from pitch as the dominant tool of music. The sirens were selected because that have the smoothest glissando, not for any cheesy programmatic purpose.

    • @Travmann777
      @Travmann777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EtcEtcAndEtc 2 years later and I feel the need to add on to what I feel the original commenter was referencing. Could you describe a what something tastes like? Yes, but you will never convey the entirety of what it means to experience that sense in words. Words are approximations of experiences of the senses, and sometimes it's best to just experience something as it is without putting barriers in the way of that experience.
      But it's also fun to put words to these experiences we have, and we do, and that's ok. I'm with you, absolutists are always no fun. :)

    • @jwc3o2
      @jwc3o2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Travmann777 waitaminnit - "absolutists are ALWAYS no fun"? well, isn't that "a what something"!

  • @Nuxunumo
    @Nuxunumo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Probably one of the best performances of this piece I've ever heard wooooow

  • @TheHive616
    @TheHive616 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Ensemble Intercontemporain has always played the bizarre pieces they choose in a wonderful way, but THIS performance is easily one of my favorite recordings in the world. the conductor is very good, keeping pace with the strange meter, her movements large enough to be noted by the performers without seeming gratuitous or self-important. Fantastic performance, I watch it every couple months and am moved and impressed each time. Thank you for this performance!

    • @davewestner
      @davewestner 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This really is an astounding recording, from a performance point of view as well as a technical point of view. Thanks to the engineer(s) that recorded this. I don't believe there is an engineering credit listed in this video unfortunately.

  • @unabarry5496
    @unabarry5496 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Fantastic piece! Had to study it for my music degree in the 70s.

  • @iainctduncan
    @iainctduncan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had a chance to play this at UBC with the perc ensemble, such a gas to play! And hard as hell to keep your place.

    • @iainctduncan
      @iainctduncan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      nice performance this is too.

  • @willnabors6463
    @willnabors6463 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    When you're in band practice and you ask your drummer to play a four on the floor

  • @staffanolofsson8201
    @staffanolofsson8201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Susanna Mälkki has brought me here. I like her stile and her clothes and her way of leading this group. And I like the drummers, the percussion people. But I have to confess, I have it a little bit hard about that electric machine that now and then disturbes this concert. But Edgar wanted it this way . Brecht also wanted us not getting too envolved, to stop and think: "Wait, this is only a performance!"

  • @stevemontanya4842
    @stevemontanya4842 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    "The present-day composer refuses to die." Edgard Varese

    • @MIDIPipe
      @MIDIPipe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amén.

    • @jwc3o2
      @jwc3o2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      actually, i think it was "the present day composers refuse to die"...

  • @folaticisse8238
    @folaticisse8238 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Très bonne vidéo sur la ionisation de varese

  • @needleboy17
    @needleboy17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So much percussion. Nice.

  • @gabrieltorres2381
    @gabrieltorres2381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Surprisingly catchy.

  • @jean-michelsapristi6348
    @jean-michelsapristi6348 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Le documentaire passé récemment sur Arte m'a fait découvrir la personnalité hors-norme de Franck Zappa : Un gars à la fois lucide, libre et créatif. Rafraichissant par les temps qui courent...
    C'est en quelque sorte sur ses "conseils" que je découvre ce morceau de Varèse (et c'est balèze).

    • @diezelle57
      @diezelle57 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      En effet, Varèse, c'est du balèze ! :)

  • @shabbyroadscholar
    @shabbyroadscholar 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You know I've been a musician for over 50 years and I've done a lot of experimental music ambient music electronic music I love experimenting but I've listened to this and others and it doesn't make me cry. Mussorgsky makes me cry.

  • @yagiz885
    @yagiz885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very catchy! Genius' masterpiece!

  • @carlosbartnickitort6557
    @carlosbartnickitort6557 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful playing.

  • @eduardofernandez2240
    @eduardofernandez2240 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    La meillleure version! Bravo!

  • @sohyunlee7
    @sohyunlee7 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    totally awesome!

  •  10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Delícia, ver os instrumentos em uma filmagem tão boa dá muito mais prazer do que só escutar, parabéns!

    •  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      de onde voce é? no brasil raramente se escuta musica contemporanea. sempre param em stravinsky. o augusto de campos diz que estamos há 100 anos atrasado na musica!!!!!!

    • @demetriusgiovannisoares3822
      @demetriusgiovannisoares3822 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      uma pergunta retórica em tempos de patrulha politicamente correta: seria machismo dizer que é sempre um prazer assistir música clássica contemporânea e mulheres bonitas numa mesma sala de concerto? ok, podem jogar as bombas... rsrs

  • @uromaniac
    @uromaniac 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Frank Zappa documentary brought me here. Zappa mentions Varese as a strong influence on his young self. Easy to see that.

  • @marcosr2
    @marcosr2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Work, perfect!!

  • @brucebennett5338
    @brucebennett5338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    magnifique!

  • @pedroleal7118
    @pedroleal7118 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice performance.
    ps I also now know who has my Ludwig 'Coliseum' snare! Thanks for sharing!

  • @ICA17887
    @ICA17887 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    J'adore ce morceau emblématique de Varèse starter de la carrière musicale de Zappa.

  • @juancaem
    @juancaem 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent recording!

  • @AlexReynard
    @AlexReynard 11 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I can very easily understand this being the piece of music that started Frank Zappa's interest in composing.

    • @AlexReynard
      @AlexReynard 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Uzair And now I feel old. But noticed! :)

    • @AlexReynard
      @AlexReynard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Uzair I'm almost 40. Try reading stuff you wrote in high school. That'll fry your skull for sure.

  • @klangschatten5610
    @klangschatten5610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing music, awesome performance.

  • @JahnBeukesMusic
    @JahnBeukesMusic 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    AWESOME job! Bravo!

  • @DrMattMusic
    @DrMattMusic 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Okay, this is the tightest and most civilized performance of this work I've seen on TH-cam, capturing far more of the spirit and accurate notes than the Boulez.
    Kudos to Ms. Mälkki. I'd love to work with you.

  • @cloudydazeeee
    @cloudydazeeee ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Percussionists are hella underrated so this is awesome to me as a percussionist, it’s cool that they have the majority of the spotlight! ✨

  • @babischatzis5620
    @babischatzis5620 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "According to Varese, in order for the
    projection to yield a highly complex form, in other words, a cosmic distribution, what is necessary is a simple figure in motion and a plane that is itself mobile; otherwise, you get sound effects"
    Deleuze, Guattari- A Thousand Plateaus p.344

  • @aneteruyz8253
    @aneteruyz8253 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg fantastic

  • @mutantbaby1672
    @mutantbaby1672 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Perfectly done.

  • @robertokinks7251
    @robertokinks7251 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    assolutamente fantastico! avanti 200 anni.

  • @plasmaa1407
    @plasmaa1407 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Merci la prof de musique

  • @VersaillesP88
    @VersaillesP88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    J'adore, tout simplement ! Rythme, scansion, pulsion et impulsion. Au commencement était l'action !

  • @matthewpaluch777
    @matthewpaluch777 10 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    BRAVO!
    Now I know why this was one of
    Frank Zappa's favorite compositions!

    • @johnappleseed8369
      @johnappleseed8369 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The one that made him decide to pursue music!

    • @VeggiePower303
      @VeggiePower303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But Zappa immediately thought , "I can do better than this." and he did.

    • @n.f.7342
      @n.f.7342 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      did he though?

    • @jwc3o2
      @jwc3o2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@VeggiePower303 not "I can do better than" but more like "I can go somewhere from"...

  • @paulsomers6048
    @paulsomers6048 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sussanna Mälkki is a brilliant conductor. Her Sibelius is fantastic!

  • @s_eliza
    @s_eliza 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this piece was so good in Hannibal

  • @agst2006
    @agst2006 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    art works of rhythms, frequencies and intensities

  • @brancepethbob
    @brancepethbob 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb!

  • @saraondo2698
    @saraondo2698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Threnody for Frank Zappa ".
    "She dances in the wind "by Tony villodas composer

  • @EthanReadsHisBooks
    @EthanReadsHisBooks 8 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Gotta say. I'm gunna need a little more cowbell!

    • @MrIdontwanttomakeach
      @MrIdontwanttomakeach 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish I was an edgelord too

    • @charlesdavis7087
      @charlesdavis7087 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Personally, I'd rather listen to Varese being beaten with a cowbell for 7 mins and 27 seconds. Better him than me. Too bad Edgard didn't listen to his father and become an engineer.

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charlesdavis7087 Cry about it

  • @tomelliott964
    @tomelliott964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful! This piece is both an auditory and a visual delight!😀😀😀

  • @mariagomes9005
    @mariagomes9005 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Magnifique

  • @billmcanally7782
    @billmcanally7782 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the siren suggests urgency and carries with it a sense of disquiet!

  • @darylcumming7119
    @darylcumming7119 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you.

  • @jwc3o2
    @jwc3o2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    let's not forget that this work is dedicated to Nicolas Slonimski, who gave it its 1st performance in 1933 at Carnegie Hall & first recording on Columbia in 1934 (& that Slonimski guested on keyboards with Zappa when he was 83!)

  • @xavierlouis12
    @xavierlouis12 ปีที่แล้ว

    surpuissant !!!

  • @karimhabet6404
    @karimhabet6404 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    quels beaux rythmes. magnifique version.

  • @artemagica3486
    @artemagica3486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Give me Varèse any day! I think, he was not only way ahead of his time but will still be contemporary in the 23rd Century.... (if humanity makes it that far 🤔).

    • @charlesdavis7087
      @charlesdavis7087 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If one thinks of this as "Music," there may well never be a 23rd Century. Ingram Marshall composed a work having to do with the slamming of the prison doors in Alcatraz. This work I found very haunting and full of disjointed memories that didn't really want to be remembered. For me, the best part of Ionization was the few seconds after I realized it had ended. (What is a joke without a punch line? A Zen Koan.).

  • @udomatthiasdrums5322
    @udomatthiasdrums5322 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    still love it!!

  • @geist3756
    @geist3756 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had recognised Edgard Varese as an influence on Frank Zappa. This made me interested in trying to find a piece of his work to listen to. After repeating the name many times, I gave up on Alexa.

  • @charlesdavis7087
    @charlesdavis7087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This isn't music. This is something else. Not sure what it is... but I'll listen to some more of Varese's efforts.

    • @downsouth420
      @downsouth420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a natural music intertwined in the chaos. I guess it’s all in how you think about it.

    • @tomfurgas2844
      @tomfurgas2844 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Varese himself called it "organized sound".

  • @rogeriomiranda9881
    @rogeriomiranda9881 หลายเดือนก่อน

    dificil fazer musica só com percurção fantastico

  • @luvs2grill
    @luvs2grill 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    incredible.

  • @lucabrignole
    @lucabrignole 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    the point is not about Zappa etc bla bla.. the point is: "mr .Varese" wrote this in 1929...

    • @jeffreydershin5763
      @jeffreydershin5763 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1929, wow. The public must have thought Varese came from outer space!

    • @austinshoupe3003
      @austinshoupe3003 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeffreydershin5763 the futurists had already made their mark by this point. The ballet Russe, Satie's ballets with Picasso, and the dadaists had already been around by the time this premiered. The interwar period was explosive and unstable for art music.

    • @paulphilemon2370
      @paulphilemon2370 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Je trouve votre phrase parfaite, au fil de la lecture des interventions ci-dessus publiées, son apparition m'a fait hurler de rire 🤣 (et ça fait beaucoup de bien... merci)
      Drôle et poétiquement dit M. Lucas Brignole " etc bla bla .. Zappa Varese 1929 The point is… " 🤣🤣🤐 En accord avec vous, Même si j'adore aussi Frank Zappa....

    • @lucabrignole
      @lucabrignole 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@paulphilemon2370 merci! rien contre M. Zappa bien sûr, mais souvent beaucoup de gens se perdent en regardant le doigt, quand le sage désigne la lune ;)

  • @Manormouse-04
    @Manormouse-04 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so very much ahead of it's time, as is a lot of his work.

  • @Ron.kosakowski_TFW_PSDTC
    @Ron.kosakowski_TFW_PSDTC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can definitely see the big influence in Frank Zappa's music. FZ had good taste. :)

    • @roadgrit801
      @roadgrit801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I heard an interview with Zappa in which he said (after first hearing Varese) "Boy, that sounds great. I'm going to have to write some of that."

  • @alfredodelgadillo7461
    @alfredodelgadillo7461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very interesting

  • @camusandinternet
    @camusandinternet 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This ensemble absolutely NAILED this piece. They've played it at the exact tempo I like to hear it (not too languorous the way Boulez performs it - which is possibly more accurate - but not too fast like other recordings.)

  • @CharlieMessing
    @CharlieMessing 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Music starts about 1:07

    • @00Haydz
      @00Haydz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thx M8

  • @inzyster
    @inzyster 9 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The Black Page, part 0 - the impossible version :)

  • @Quim1441
    @Quim1441 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome.

  • @lucashandle
    @lucashandle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    tres cool

  • @elfcounsul
    @elfcounsul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Now listen to Zappa’s Black Page.

  • @janesdisorder1565
    @janesdisorder1565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Frank Zappa makes so much more sense now. He had so many moments in his live shows and recordings that mimic this.

    • @macleadg
      @macleadg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zappa met Varese once as a teenager, and kept an autographed picture of him. He revered Varese.

  • @trithucvacuocsong
    @trithucvacuocsong 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an exciting video! I see that your channel is perfectly suitable for the platform known as Ganjing World. May I repost and keep everything as is. Please let me know your thoughts. Have a lovely day!

  • @frankalfar
    @frankalfar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An awesome performance👏👏👏👏👏

  • @0049User
    @0049User 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful. I have only ever heard the original Varese recording (i have a 1970's vinyl re-release) and it is very powerful to see young musicians playing this piece so well.

  • @dulcegirasolguadalupenuezc1999
    @dulcegirasolguadalupenuezc1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    magnific

  • @ivanbosco7551
    @ivanbosco7551 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Does this have anything to do with war?

  • @leahm7743
    @leahm7743 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow

  • @大深堀
    @大深堀 ปีที่แล้ว

    イオニゼーション大好きな曲です🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂😂

  • @davidlaymanpiano
    @davidlaymanpiano 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I did my Master's recital on this stage.

    • @horstbienek2108
      @horstbienek2108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      AFTERWARDS I WAS WITH THE RATS IN THE CELLARS

  • @kamildeniz6474
    @kamildeniz6474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this piece!

  • @607
    @607 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The version with Pierre Boulez is not on TH-cam anymore?

  • @docpearson
    @docpearson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Definitely will be a platinum album.