Nate Phelps, Son of God Hates Fags Westboro Baptist Church, Reveals All Part 2 of 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ธ.ค. 2010
- Nathan Phelps is the estranged son of Fred Phelps and brother of Shirley Phelps-Roper, vocally anti-gay from the Westboro Baptist Church. Nate tells his story of leaving the church, being physically and mentall abused by Fred Phelps, and much more.
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Nate Phelps sounds like an incredibly insightful and decent guy to have come from such a horrible family. I feel bad for his struggles. Who in the world would want a family like that?
Thanks, it was a great interview. Nate seems like a brilliant guy. I wish him the best.
Nate Phelps seems to me to be an intelligent, free-spirited, good-natured man and we could all learn a lot from him.
This guy seems nice. I feel bad for him. I wish I could give him a hug.
Great great interview David, chapeau ! Also many thanks to Nate to share that, all the best to you Nate.
thanks for sharing the interview.
Fred Phelps leaned on religion to punish his enemies which was the entire earth.
Illuminating and horrifying interview. Great job, David!
It's hard to believe that this calm, intelligent, reasonable man is related to Shirley Phelps.
Nate is an amazing guy and I'm so happy he left that awful situation and was able to find a better (at the very least less toxic) life.
It's so weird that Fred Phelps is an NAACP-recognized civil-rights attorney.
***** How do you know they were gay?
Are you saying, then, that a gay activist who likes to have sex with boys equals all gay people like to have sex with boys? So much for your logic. :)
That wasn't the question. Question was, are you saying, then, that a gay activist who likes to have sex with boys equals all gay people like to have sex with boys? It's an easy, yes/no question.
To answer your question, because pedophilia isn't about gender, but rather power and control.
How is your point on Phelps relevant?
Do you know what the "part to whole" fallacy is? How do you know that part of a population bearing a trait (pedophilia) necessarily leads to the entire population bearing that trait?
It's absolutely you're right to campaign tirelessly against gays adopting children, but does it bother you that your campaign is a futile one? In time, law-abiding gay citizens will have identical rights to law-abiding straight ones. This has borne out again and again. Soon, your views will be relegated to history's many footnotes.
***** You could not be more wrong! happen to know a gay male couple that have three adopted boys. They raised them since preschool ages. The eldest one recently started at a prestigious coed private college to which me earned an all expense paid athletic scholarship and has a girlfriend. The next oldest is a senior in high school who is also a straight-A student just like his two brothers (BTW: what kind of grades did you get in school? I doubt all 'A's) and already has offers from five Ivy League colleges (its a safe bet he too will get an AEP scholarship.), is also a star athlete and is madly in love with a gal he has been with since the eighth grade. The third is only thirteen but being a star athlete as his brothers, apparently he has sixteen year old girls chasing him. And that is just one example but one is all we need to prove you ridiculously wrong wrong wrong, haaaa! BTW: you are aware that homophobia has been firmly linked to repressed homosexual desires, right? Yeah, that means YOU, buffy! Of course, all I had to do to put you in place would be to ask you to cite your sources of your infinite mis-wisdom and have you say that you conjured your statement up in your little homophobic mind and it has no basis in science, fact, experience or knowledge. So, may this writ follow you around on Google Plus...BEWARE THE FALSELY PONTIFICATING "hotathlete2", he/she makes stuff up. Haaaaaaaaaaaa!
God bless Nate Phelps for using his story to shed light on such a horrible situation.
thank you for this. Great interview!
Having had run ins with Fred and Shirley in the past - I applaud not only Nate's ingenuity (in waiting until the clock struck midnight), and bravado. But thank him for his decency, honesty and his sheer integrity. Being gay, I may not like what WBC thinks about me (lucky to have a loving family who knew when I was a kid, that a wife, kids and picket fence were not in my future). As an American I have to give WBC their right to speak. As a caring, sensible person - I choose not to listen.
That Nathan Phelps sure is a swell fella.
Thumbs up of you're still alive in 2019!
I'm glad that an Ex-Westboro Baptist Church is practically Agnostic :)
I love Nate Phelps. I totally agree with what he's saying. There needs to be more people like him.
I'm agnostic myself, and I'm certainly NOT a fan of Fred, but at least one of his kids (That I know of so far) turned out.... pretty well. He has sympathy for people. He's smart. And very sensible.. :] RESPECT!! :D
Apparently, Nate becomes visibly upset when faced with the prospect of seeing Fred face-to-face again. Can't blame him. PTSD.
I'd shit myself at the prospect of seeing Fred in person too, unless it was to dance on his grave.
Wonderful human being. Completely refreshing after seeing a WBC video. I couldn't agree more with this man... If the God that WBC believes were real, no one would any part in it.
That's today! I wasn't expecting that when I started watching this. Well, I'm waiting....
This guy seems like a genuinely nice person. He went through a childhood that was hell, but didn't turn into an asshole himself. I also like that he didn't just go to the opposite extreme of being a radical atheist (anti-theist) who simply dismissed all religion and spirituality.
I thank the Westboro Baptist Church for convincing me that the decision to become an atheist was the right one
love this interview!!
July 21st 2012 has already come and gone and we are all still here, So what's to become of the WBC now that their prediction has been proven to be false?
Good interview.
WHOA! That's on my dad's birthday.
I genuinely feel bad for this man for being part of the seed from this horrible, horrible legacy.
God bless this guy for standing up to his family's cult. Same goes to that one girl Lauren who left as well. I believe the two of them have earned forgiveness, and I personally would love to see the looks on the rest of their family's faces when they burn in Hell.
After Nate got married and had children, he tried raising them with a milder form of Christianity. But he finally stopped taking them to church after an incident where a certain passage in the Bible made one of his kids cry.
i feel sorry for anybody that had to grow up with a father like that
I like this person. He sounds so friendly.
Nate: "The idea they're moving forward with, is that God is going to come back on July 21st, 2012. And he's going to take them up into heaven so none of them are going to have to die. And then the tribulation is going to start here on earth."
Interviewer: "July 21st, 2012"
Nate: "2012"
Weird how the Aurora, CO Dark Knight Rises shooting happened on July 20th, 2012. I think we now know the real culprit behind that shooting.
Dude i swear i wish i could hug this guy.
WE'RE ALL GONNA BE CAST INTO THE PIT TODAY! Hmm...it's already 10 PM in Japan, I wonder if they got anything yet.
So maybe it should come a time where the collective put aside their differences about whether or not this constitutes a freedom of speech, take the metaphorical cigar as a whole, and burn the leech right off our arms before it ruins more of our lives, steals more of our money, and mocks more of our dead. Fred is a walking corpse unfit to be called human, and his grinning shrew of a daughter deserves just as much to be stricken till she can't even smile anymore.
It's brilliant that Nate's now an atheist...good for him!
The 2 dislikes are from Shirley and Fred Phelps.
Does Nate ever socialize with any of the estranged Phelps kids? Would he ever be interested in a reunion in which Nate goes back to the home of Fred Phelps?
@icequeenspooky Thanks for that verse! Great reference!
6 dislikes? Wow, the entire WBC disliked this video
But in the end, stripping these fools of their voice and their tax exemption should do well to put the squeeze on their little annual family trips. No aspect of society should be forced to abide a single moment of them if they feel so confidently that they are the chosen ones.
@6142
I HOPE that one day people could be a little more sensitive to understanding the dynamics of abuse. It would be a tragedy if the legacy of this sick man's abuse lead to the suicide of the people he held in violent bondage for so long. I think a better resolution would be an enlightenment and rebellion and dissolution of this "church." These people may be hateful but they are suffering terrible because of Fred's violent and abusive tendencies.
I feel like he needs a hug.
I have to disagree to some point. When they came here and were virtually ignored by the mourners, shunned by local mediam and restricted contact due to newly enacted (mainly by their own doing, due to them protesting a gay murder victims memorial service - Billy Jack Gaither years earlier), they were gone in 10 minutes - if they stayed that long. I was with our local gay media at the time and even we ignored we their second visit. We did cover the Gaither service more out of him being gay
Shouldn't child services get involved before this day, and remove these poor innocent children from this place of neglect????
@bebenic lol. happy holidays
Freedom of speech sure...but even freedom has its limits
You are allowed to say whatever you want as long as its nothing hateful or offensive...they are doing both
I can't wait to hear their excuses on July 21, 2012.
I feel for this guy.
July 21st? Man, time flies.
I cannot fathom that Fred Phelps allowed his kids to attend public schools!
i admire him.
It seems to me that all this church can do is quote and mangle biblical verses to say that God hates everyone and seem to be able to disrespect everyone to spread this, divinely protected.
But from what I understand, hate is one of the most deadliest sins to ever be committed, yet God hates. And they say all sinners are evil...so it seems, by the Westboro, that God is an evil sinner. Yet in the bible they mangle up, God loves all and says to love thy fellow man.
Who's really religious there?
@Nomiss9 I consider myself the second type of agnostic. A lot of my best friends are Christians, but most of my skepticism comes from religious psychos like Fred Phelps. I haven't completely turned away from God, but I'm just not sure which side of God is real, the loving side I see in my friends or the dark and evil side I see in people like Fred.
I think god just put WBC on earth to test us on how well we can love our neighbor. Probably wrong but to me it seems legit
@maynrdjkeenan It's not uncalled for at all. Shirley wants to paint herself and her church as the only righteous people, according to her religion, but because of that, she isn't, and she deserves to get called on it.
YES
6:20 ".. cult suicide..." Don't you DARE get my hopes up, David Parkman.
He sounds really intelligent. I have respect.
these parasites have been harassing innocent victims since they have been formed and I don't think anything that they stand for and what they protest against is even close to reasonable.
Qetzlqatl, the feathered serpent god of the Mayans demands human sacrifice, and Fred, Shirley, and Margie would be perfect candidates. They need to be thrown into a volcano, and we can all rejoice. I received this revelation on my pilgrimage to the Mayan Temple at Disney World, so I KNOW it must be true!
An open mind is a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded.
...You know, are you seeing any similarities between the cult of the Emperor and the WBC?
Not what I meant what im trying to say is that even freedom should have limits so people dont go around abusing it
Ok, I was in the place where you are right now, so I do believe you are in fact a truth seeker, and I wished someone was there for me back then, so let me ask you something. What would it take for you to change your mind about the bible being trustworthy.
@sleepypoodle he's not really an atheist he's just open minded and willing to accept others beliefs
@aden302000 What is supposed to happen on that day?
@kazooga1234 This is the definition I found:
a. One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.
b. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.
The first one is the most common one, I think, and he didn't agree with it. Also, atheism is just the opposite of theism (believing in a god), and since he doesn't seem to believe in a specific god you could just as well call him an atheist. We shouldn't force labels on people though.
He should have waited until the next night so he could get the presents.
July 21st 2012....that's comin up pretty soon.
i can't wait until July 22nd.
Nate seems like a really nice guy
After seeing some of the interviews with the WBC members I thought once you left you couldn't go back?
In any case its good to see that people can see bullshit for what it is and split, no matter how hard it can be. GJ, Nate.
non est deus
*Shirley's a nut... gotta say it.
Exactly it allows people to get away with whatever the they want
Freedom NEEDS to have limits dont get me wrong I love freedom esp america but there needs to be something in there that makes the government say "stop you cant do this"
@KingOystar yes
@xXGriff25Xx That's interesting, I've heard May 21, 2012 from other people. Oh dear, when they wake up on May 22, they are going to be real disappointed.
I'll never look at Michael Phelps the same....
@xwarmangle I don't see what this verse has at all to do with what I said. I think you're talking to hear yourself talk... lol
this man is clearly intelligent, sane and all around normal....where the fuck did the rest of the family go wrong?
@xXGriff25Xx They are going to be really ticked and confused when july 22nd comes round.lol
@natas809 you'd think they would, or at least for what is readily seen, such as their running with an angry mob wanting to cause them harm is knowingly putting the children at risk of harm. That should be good to charge for some sort of abuse or neglect.
What am i going to do on July 21st? Why, have my birthday of course!!!
Yeah - only 6 more months before the Phelps are off this planet. Bring on July 21 2012!
wow he had to wait till the clock struck mid night on his 18 th b day and left.he should have benn longing to get the hell out of there
@paulpizzey1973 well, original christians were following a doctrine created by Christ, so they were not picking and choosing. it's not like 500 years after they encountered Christ they said we're gonna start this belief in whole and we'll pick events from the already published bible to base it all off of.
@evanstoler I have more respect for Nate and his other siblings who have left WBC than fred phelps.
@ginastarke2 Your Welcome! :)
nah, he's worse. the WBC may be responsible for ramping up homophobia and religious bigotry, but as far as what can be seen, they haven't raped anyone.
lol If you're watching this in 2013.
How could I be a bad troll - I elicited a response from you, did I not?
Free to pay taxes to bankers to pay down debts we don't owe.
@xXGriff25Xx can't wait for the day :D
@bebenic I do'n;t know if he looks like Jason Gordon Levitt, but he certainly doesn't look like Joseph Gordon Levitt.
...Metal gear!
Yeah, James Holmes. What's your point?
@paulpizzey1973 i wouldn't say that believing in God is necessarily a bad thing. yes there are those freaks that start wars and hostile relations over the topic of religion, but most of people use the concept of "God" as good thing in their lives. I think that everyone needs 3 things in life: something to love, something to work at, and something to believe in. anything can fit these categories, and it doesn't have to be God, but some people do. By the way, I'm a christian and I'm not insane.
i don't watch the news, did the world end 20 months ago?
+xKynOx I have a theory that the rapture happened, but it turned out that nobody was good enough to be raptured. So basically, nothing happened.
July 21st? WELP, only 3 days until these guys piss off!
@poopynonsense
Why? Shirley is incredibly intelligent. Thoroughly indoctrinated and lacking any form of empathy, but incredibly intelligent. Most of the Phelps family is very smart. Especially Fred.
Just because they're wrong, doesn't mean they're dumb.