These companies need to stop doing things like binding the partition to the console or the disk drive on the ps5. There's no reason for this other than making people have to buy new consoles
That’s nonsense. It can be encrypted without being hardware locked to a particular motherboard. It’s guaranteeing that these devices will have a built in expiration date as the part that will fail (the memory) is not replaceable.
@@rrwholloway I'm sorry but that's just not right. How do yiu think encryption works? If something is encrypted it needs to be decrypted. You can't put the decryption key on the drive itself as that would defeat the purpose. The decryption key is therefore based on the hardware. And you need to encrypt the data, otherwise it can be viewed as normal data. I don't disagree that the drive should be replaceable with a method of generating that partition somehow. I really don't understand why the Xbox doesn't just see a new SSD and create a new partition. That seems like a bit of an as oversight.
On the second console try reinstalling the OS from scratch. Teredo problems are usually driver related on Windows machines, maybe a complete reinstall can solve it. Maybe check the SSD health on the 2nd console, as well placed bad sectors can ruin a program (in this case a driver) without breaking anything else. Maybe it's not a software issue but some IO chip overheating with time, but it should be worth a try
I think that the marrying of ssd's to a console and making it impossible to replace without a cirtain unique partition is quite simply revolting. Great video joy, thanks for the content.
When you are done with the season and hit the target goal Throw a pivot table on Sally's specticlar spreadsheet and you will be able to see which product you created the most profit on and which had highest earnings per hour
I wonder if it's possible to take the rom chip off of the SSD and put it onto another working SSD. Since it wasn't recognized in windows I am guessing the data is there but the controller chip has failed or one of the passive components.
SSDs are encrypted in Most cases and the Keys are in the Controller chip. Even If there is No encryption, the new Controller will Not know where the Data is, it is stored randomly.
Great video, shame there was no fix. I've just recently found your channel. Is there any chance you could make a video about your diagnostic journey and the techniques you have learned, and how to basic fault find for us newbies, i.e., testing caps, resistors, and other basic components?? Cheers.
Hey Joey. I work on PCs and repair them as a job. We use a program called R-Studio to recover data. Sometimes that tool works for getting data off a disk that windows doesn’t populate. It’s worth a try
You should have removed the nand on the ssd and put it on the known working ssd. just needs a reball and your console is saved. Please try this before selling. I have done this before and it worked.
Upnp is used to Open Ports on your Router, if the Router Upnp is disabled you will receive such a error but it wont cause Server based games to not Work, the issue where Upnp will Play a role is when your Device is the server behind your Router. then Upnp will open the correct Ports for the Other Players to Connect to your Console.
Toredo IP address is an IPv4 to IPV6 conversion basically. Gives a way for IPV4 addresses to be translated to ipv6, which are used on the xbox network.
Big fan of the channel! I’ve recently got into repairing so far I’ve done a few ps5 controllers all been straight forward!! I’ve got 1 at the moment that needs a thumb stick module replacing! Any tips or advise for someone new to soldering because so far it’s not gone well! I’ve had more stuff fall of the board than I really wanted 😢
You might want to try booting from a flash drive that has a linux distro that has testdisk installed on it and trying your luck with that. That software can recover/repair messed up partitions and disk images. If you try this, make sure to use the dd command (a seprate linux program) to create a full drive clone image and attempt to repair the image instead of the data on the original drive. This way you can't mess up the data on the drive.
Fate decided that the £2000 profit target for this season wasn’t enough and went in and added to it. Time to prove fate wrong. Opportunity awaits. Let’s go!
I would have tried removing the NAND and reading it directly. They have BGA sockets, but you can also do it dead bug style, i.e., flip it over and solder wires to the pads.
About the first xbox, did you try the other SSD in the xbox after the attempted clone? I don't know if the 25% LED only starts to light up when the clone process is at 25%, when you're lucky the device was able to transfer the 1GB partition and failed then later at the broken partition. With that it should be enough to start the xbox. And about the second xbox, it looks to me like there is a broken solder joint to an IC, since the problem only seems to appear when the console is used for some time, so i think the heat causes a solder joint to "disconnect". Maybe a reflow of the southbridge is worth a try?
the teredo and the upnp problems you mentioned happens when windows has problems with drivers, since this is not windows, is xbox, the southbridge being a problem could be a perfect explanation, or could be just a problem with the firmware and os itself seeing how it died the other ssd
Happened to me with a MacBook and I just kept it next to me and every day while I worked if i remembered to I would just give it a try, one day it randomly came to life and I got my data. It only has to work one time 😎
I think the network issue is due to heat, as the console is cold or the south bridge is cold it works fine, but after working for a bit it heats and stops working, why don't you try putting a heatsink on the south bridge and see if the fault regularity decreases?
Ignorant question: If I bought a working Series X, could I immediately make a backup to another spare SSD in order to keep it stored and have it ready in case the first one failed? Would it work?
I have gone up a notch, crazy win of a Battlefield limited edition 1Tb Xbox One S no power for £2... yep 2 Alan Whickers on a 99p start auction... was looking today for spare shell parts as parts of the bottom panel and rear panel badly damaged and found a digital one for £15 free postage O.o Kinda bit of a dilemma with the digital one is that it works just no picture but the Battlefield one is a disc version so can't just chop over the mobo from the digital without having to convert it to a disc edition lol I do need a source of spares anyway as promised to refurbish eldest daughter's S, its getting tired and wheezy as it was a very early S so its done some mileage. As for my own dilemma, I needs a disc so I can play my Rare Replay disc, otherwise I wouldn't bother so much, also found my large box of Xbox 360 games meaning I now have GTA 5 on da One and a few other bits and bobs, been running through Code Veronica today as haven't played that in years and still the best imho. Yesterday I was cranking up the scores on SSX on my PS3 :D Waiting on a HDMI mod kit for my Mega Drive II, my 51 inch flatscreen does not do well RF and it lacks component sockets, got an Everdrive with every 8 and 16 bit games on it that can run with MD's controller.
Hey joey, just wanted to say i think whoever you have bought it from as swapped the working ssd into a faulty ssd, it may not look like it has been opened, but with a little bit of heat and Isopropanol Alcohol, you'll never know it was ever opened up before, it's a slight chance that this has been done and you've been scammed
Hi Joey I hope you can help me or give me advice ,tell me can I fix the issue where I removed the 12v rail mosfet but now I can't see the legs where the mosfet should sit
Seeing Series Xs with bad SSDs has me really worried about mine. I love the console, just don't want it to become absolutely useless because of a bad SSD. I am thinking about getting an expansion card so that I don't use the internal ssd at all and leave it empty.
Terado or whatever the name I recognised as being a spy ware Hp includes with WiFi drivers it claims to improve the connection but actually makes it way way worse. When it comes to consoles I'm clueless but if you're on Pc you really want to get rid of this crap but be aware every hp update you allow will bring it back. I
on the xbox series X with the bad ssd what you should have tried instead of digging at that bad chip is you should have simply removed the memory chip and swapped it onto a working ssd spare and hope the chip was still good
Hi would there be interest in a cool easy to use spreadsheet for your own profit/loss side hustle? I'm a spreadsheet wizard. If there is some demand I might make something cool for free. Lmk
So based on what I've seen in the past there is the chip that can help recover data from an SSD, the caveat with it is that you need to match the controller chip of the broken one with a controller chip of a working one. This, of course would only be recommended for data recovery because it may not be a viable repair replacing Controllers.
Sorry to hear about your bad luck with this one, hope the next one is better! Also, regarding your spreadsheet - eBay charge a fee on postage so if you charge the buyer the amounts you're quoting, your actual profit (or in this case, loss) will be less (higher loss) due to the fee charged on the postage.
Where is data about the ssd stored? In some chip? Bios maybe? Or some other chip? Is it possible to clone the bios from donor and take donor's ssd? Or something in that path...like taking both chip and ssd from donor? I am not familiar with Xbox and I am just asking is something possible, like don't be limited just to ssd maybe a chip is in with the ssd...either just the data from the chip or the whole physical chip transfer 🤷♂️ or maybe it's bios and some chip and ssd 🤷♂️ If it's bios, it shouldn't be so hard and expensive (just a guess), if it's some other chip - programming is harder (guessing again)... Anyways, I'll say again, I don't know anything about Xbox
M$ Should be fined for essentially causing a ton of E-waste as we all know eventually a lot of these SSDs will begin to fail and and whole consoles rendered useless,Also @ 8:54 anyone else noticed there's large chunks missing from the upper right and lower left components of the drive?
These companies need to stop doing things like binding the partition to the console or the disk drive on the ps5. There's no reason for this other than making people have to buy new consoles
If you could just convince people not to buy the games, even if only for six months, things would change.
There's every reason for it, it's to stop piracy. They are tied into the hardware to encrypt the data.
That’s nonsense. It can be encrypted without being hardware locked to a particular motherboard.
It’s guaranteeing that these devices will have a built in expiration date as the part that will fail (the memory) is not replaceable.
@@rrwholloway I'm sorry but that's just not right. How do yiu think encryption works? If something is encrypted it needs to be decrypted. You can't put the decryption key on the drive itself as that would defeat the purpose.
The decryption key is therefore based on the hardware. And you need to encrypt the data, otherwise it can be viewed as normal data.
I don't disagree that the drive should be replaceable with a method of generating that partition somehow. I really don't understand why the Xbox doesn't just see a new SSD and create a new partition. That seems like a bit of an as oversight.
So glad this series came back so quickly!
Yes, transplant the NAND
I know, I was saying it at the screen!
On the second console try reinstalling the OS from scratch. Teredo problems are usually driver related on Windows machines, maybe a complete reinstall can solve it. Maybe check the SSD health on the 2nd console, as well placed bad sectors can ruin a program (in this case a driver) without breaking anything else. Maybe it's not a software issue but some IO chip overheating with time, but it should be worth a try
You are a TH-cam gem, Joey! Love how you explain things as you're going :D
I’m glad you decided to continue with a second season.😃
I think that the marrying of ssd's to a console and making it impossible to replace without a cirtain unique partition is quite simply revolting. Great video joy, thanks for the content.
When you are done with the season and hit the target goal
Throw a pivot table on Sally's specticlar spreadsheet and you will be able to see which product you created the most profit on and which had highest earnings per hour
Alexa! Put a two year timer on!
is it possible to transplant the NAND to a same SSD board?
that's a good question
I was literally about to type the same thing!!
Yes it is possible, i did this once. Since the data is on the nand thats all you need. Just transplant it to the known working board.
Worth a try then cloan the reansplanted SSD to be safe
yes that is how you fix ps5 ssd problems
Thanks again for the business Joey, I will be in touch with you with some new broken tech :)
Was really hoping you'd give more of a go at the power management IC on the SSD.
I wonder if it's possible to take the rom chip off of the SSD and put it onto another working SSD. Since it wasn't recognized in windows I am guessing the data is there but the controller chip has failed or one of the passive components.
SSDs are encrypted in Most cases and the Keys are in the Controller chip. Even If there is No encryption, the new Controller will Not know where the Data is, it is stored randomly.
My wife was walking by when i watched this video. She was asking: Isn't this the Banana-man? 😄
My wife calls him Jason Priestley :)
Wow. Looking forward to these all the time. Best series on youtube ever ❤
Great video, shame there was no fix. I've just recently found your channel. Is there any chance you could make a video about your diagnostic journey and the techniques you have learned, and how to basic fault find for us newbies, i.e., testing caps, resistors, and other basic components?? Cheers.
Hey Joey. I work on PCs and repair them as a job. We use a program called R-Studio to recover data. Sometimes that tool works for getting data off a disk that windows doesn’t populate. It’s worth a try
You should have removed the nand on the ssd and put it on the known working ssd. just needs a reball and your console is saved. Please try this before selling. I have done this before and it worked.
Upnp is used to Open Ports on your Router, if the Router Upnp is disabled you will receive such a error but it wont cause Server based games to not Work, the issue where Upnp will Play a role is when your Device is the server behind your Router. then Upnp will open the correct Ports for the Other Players to Connect to your Console.
Came to the comments to check for that comment. Thx for explaining!
Upnp should be banned, it's a massive security risk.
Loving this new series format
Oh man! Joey! Please can you do a poll on a livestream about it being 'ethernet' or 'eeeethernet' ?
that's why #right2repair is important.
Nice video Joey, really like the new spreadsheet format, very informative.
Never fails to give me a entertaining video to binge!
Toredo IP address is an IPv4 to IPV6 conversion basically. Gives a way for IPV4 addresses to be translated to ipv6, which are used on the xbox network.
Big fan of the channel! I’ve recently got into repairing so far I’ve done a few ps5 controllers all been straight forward!! I’ve got 1 at the moment that needs a thumb stick module replacing! Any tips or advise for someone new to soldering because so far it’s not gone well! I’ve had more stuff fall of the board than I really wanted 😢
You might want to try booting from a flash drive that has a linux distro that has testdisk installed on it and trying your luck with that. That software can recover/repair messed up partitions and disk images. If you try this, make sure to use the dd command (a seprate linux program) to create a full drive clone image and attempt to repair the image instead of the data on the original drive. This way you can't mess up the data on the drive.
Fate decided that the £2000 profit target for this season wasn’t enough and went in and added to it.
Time to prove fate wrong.
Opportunity awaits. Let’s go!
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Oh this was hard.. the warranty sticker gave so much hope.. love the new details on sally.
I would have tried removing the NAND and reading it directly. They have BGA sockets, but you can also do it dead bug style, i.e., flip it over and solder wires to the pads.
Not a great start for aiming for 2k but I do like rooting for the underdog! 😅
You could try using Linux for drive reading. It tends to be a bit more flexible with showing you the little info it can with a bad drive.
To remove the little BGA with epoxy, you’ll have to use a thin blade to cut underneath the chip and lift it
Hello Joey excellent video as always, I don't see any video fixing controles, aren't they worth fixing there in the UK?
About the first xbox, did you try the other SSD in the xbox after the attempted clone? I don't know if the 25% LED only starts to light up when the clone process is at 25%, when you're lucky the device was able to transfer the 1GB partition and failed then later at the broken partition. With that it should be enough to start the xbox.
And about the second xbox, it looks to me like there is a broken solder joint to an IC, since the problem only seems to appear when the console is used for some time, so i think the heat causes a solder joint to "disconnect". Maybe a reflow of the southbridge is worth a try?
Check reverse polarity diode across power rail? Sometimes go short.
There must be a partition reader to check and repair the partition. you have them for most HDs and SSDs
Rendering the Xbox useless when the SSD breaks is actually very smart thinking from Micro$oft.
Disagree, product longevity equals brand loyalty which equals longterm support.
the teredo and the upnp problems you mentioned happens when windows has problems with drivers, since this is not windows, is xbox, the southbridge being a problem could be a perfect explanation, or could be just a problem with the firmware and os itself seeing how it died the other ssd
Upnp does kind of port forwarding for you without manually allowing the ports
Intermittent issues usually means software or I/O (southbridge) would recommend trying a new ssd first.
this hairstyle suits you so well😁
Happened to me with a MacBook and I just kept it next to me and every day while I worked if i remembered to I would just give it a try, one day it randomly came to life and I got my data. It only has to work one time 😎
I think the network issue is due to heat, as the console is cold or the south bridge is cold it works fine, but after working for a bit it heats and stops working, why don't you try putting a heatsink on the south bridge and see if the fault regularity decreases?
Ignorant question: If I bought a working Series X, could I immediately make a backup to another spare SSD in order to keep it stored and have it ready in case the first one failed? Would it work?
I believe so, you just need the data from the first partition.
@@taffox3566Unfortunately not as the key changes after every update :/
I have gone up a notch, crazy win of a Battlefield limited edition 1Tb Xbox One S no power for £2... yep 2 Alan Whickers on a 99p start auction... was looking today for spare shell parts as parts of the bottom panel and rear panel badly damaged and found a digital one for £15 free postage O.o Kinda bit of a dilemma with the digital one is that it works just no picture but the Battlefield one is a disc version so can't just chop over the mobo from the digital without having to convert it to a disc edition lol I do need a source of spares anyway as promised to refurbish eldest daughter's S, its getting tired and wheezy as it was a very early S so its done some mileage. As for my own dilemma, I needs a disc so I can play my Rare Replay disc, otherwise I wouldn't bother so much, also found my large box of Xbox 360 games meaning I now have GTA 5 on da One and a few other bits and bobs, been running through Code Veronica today as haven't played that in years and still the best imho. Yesterday I was cranking up the scores on SSX on my PS3 :D Waiting on a HDMI mod kit for my Mega Drive II, my 51 inch flatscreen does not do well RF and it lacks component sockets, got an Everdrive with every 8 and 16 bit games on it that can run with MD's controller.
@19:10 Is it possible to change out the connector for the south bridge board?
If the SSDs are all uniform, you should be able to swap the memory chips like on a thumb drive
Hey joey, just wanted to say i think whoever you have bought it from as swapped the working ssd into a faulty ssd, it may not look like it has been opened, but with a little bit of heat and Isopropanol Alcohol, you'll never know it was ever opened up before, it's a slight chance that this has been done and you've been scammed
After watching this, I am seriously considering taking my xbox series x to cex. I really dont have time for ebay. but that ssd thing, damn.
Great repair attempts and video! Thank you.
Hi Joey I hope you can help me or give me advice ,tell me can I fix the issue where I removed the 12v rail mosfet but now I can't see the legs where the mosfet should sit
Cant win em all 😥. Looking forward to the next episode 👍
I don't think you should give up on repairing the SSD. I think you can do it !
Teredo is a Microsoft driven IPv6 tunnelling protocol. Probably a software issue as this does not require any specific hardware.
just like the second hand car market there is a reason people sell at car auctions !
maybe you can get one of those wireless to ethernet adapters
Working on a series x myself. What a pain in the ass they are to work on and test.
Where can I buy brand new components for PCBs? Aliexpress isn't always 100% so is it most reliable to get specific parts from donor boards?
Transplant the NAND!!!
the coder channel got an ssd to bind from another consul by taking the bios chip from the doner one aswell as ssd he got it to work
Try Steve Gibson's Spinrite on the SSD.
21:10 ok, now use that 'either' you said there for the first part of 'ethernet', and you are spot on! 🤪
An oscilloscope would help alot to diagnose that ssd
The device has to be connected to USB to clone to the other SSD (saw it in a video) 🤔
You must try that.
Seeing Series Xs with bad SSDs has me really worried about mine. I love the console, just don't want it to become absolutely useless because of a bad SSD. I am thinking about getting an expansion card so that I don't use the internal ssd at all and leave it empty.
Check the warranty status
Terado or whatever the name I recognised as being a spy ware Hp includes with WiFi drivers it claims to improve the connection but actually makes it way way worse.
When it comes to consoles I'm clueless but if you're on Pc you really want to get rid of this crap but be aware every hp update you allow will bring it back. I
on the xbox series X with the bad ssd what you should have tried instead of digging at that bad chip is you should have simply removed the memory chip and swapped it onto a working ssd spare and hope the chip was still good
You could try the SSD in a Linux machine so as to read it.
I think you should adjust your goal to include whatever sponsorhsip/ad revenue you're earning in putting out this series as well.
Surely pass on the postage!!!!
Joey 51secs ago: here, have a video
Hey... at least it wasn't another switch.😛
No problem blasting the chip with 450c with a bigger nossle man, just move the air around
EtherNet lol love you vids
Hi would there be interest in a cool easy to use spreadsheet for your own profit/loss side hustle? I'm a spreadsheet wizard. If there is some demand I might make something cool for free. Lmk
At ça 9:14 are n’´t t
the traces wored up , on the left ??
So based on what I've seen in the past there is the chip that can help recover data from an SSD, the caveat with it is that you need to match the controller chip of the broken one with a controller chip of a working one. This, of course would only be recommended for data recovery because it may not be a viable repair replacing Controllers.
You essentially reflowed the first Xbox ssd but did not try to turn it back on maybe that did the job.
Sorry to hear about your bad luck with this one, hope the next one is better!
Also, regarding your spreadsheet - eBay charge a fee on postage so if you charge the buyer the amounts you're quoting, your actual profit (or in this case, loss) will be less (higher loss) due to the fee charged on the postage.
There is no reason why Microsoft should make a faulty SSD an un-replacable item.
Xbox need to get a grip of this! Ridiculous that you can’t swap the NVMe
the bios chip and ssd were from same xbox may be worth contacting him
Not only did they lock it with software they literally bonded it to the ssd
It's sad, but this is why current gen consoles will never live long enough to be considered retro.
Preventing these sorts of repair is just such a big contribution to e-waste. Miffs me off that they get away with this.
Why not just transplant the NAND to the working board? memory is probably ok
Another reminder: ebay fees no longer exist, they don't charge them.
For private sellers yes, I am a business seller :)
@@JoeyDoesTech oh nice, I thought you’d have been a private seller!
Why not buy a replacement board for the second one?
Sweeet
How was the second one a known good one with those two components being broken? @10:18
The SSD is going bad in the second one...
Why did you got so fixated with that chip, why didn’t you swap the memory IC? That looked more simple
That is just ridiculous.a bad SSD and now the console is worthless.. good lord Microsoft’s
How does the ssd go bad so often on these?
Where is data about the ssd stored? In some chip? Bios maybe? Or some other chip?
Is it possible to clone the bios from donor and take donor's ssd? Or something in that path...like taking both chip and ssd from donor? I am not familiar with Xbox and I am just asking is something possible, like don't be limited just to ssd maybe a chip is in with the ssd...either just the data from the chip or the whole physical chip transfer 🤷♂️ or maybe it's bios and some chip and ssd 🤷♂️
If it's bios, it shouldn't be so hard and expensive (just a guess), if it's some other chip - programming is harder (guessing again)...
Anyways, I'll say again, I don't know anything about Xbox
Corrupt ssd from corrupt company gates didn't get billions by playing fair
M$ Should be fined for essentially causing a ton of E-waste as we all know eventually a lot of these SSDs will begin to fail and and whole consoles rendered useless,Also @ 8:54 anyone else noticed there's large chunks missing from the upper right and lower left components of the drive?
Think I will have to block your eBay account because they act as spoilers saw you selling them last week so knew the outcome 😂
Eethernet EEEEE-THER-NET 😅