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They want to Ban Roaring Moon
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2023
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Roaring Moon is extremely good in the Pokemon Scarlet and Violet DLC and it's currently being suspect tested! Should they Ban?
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Got a Hydration tub over a focus packet since that packet that had me shaking like a crackhead💀.
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From dropping to UU to a potential Uber. Truly one of the greatest comeback stories of all time
Espathra pt 2
@@keion_arknights Don't forget Bax
Baxcalibur Theorem: How one move can change everything
Still no Kyurem base but that's still insane.
He never left. We just stopped believing in him.
I dont know if you actually did it because of my comment on last vid but im so happy you made the mon attack the AIM professor :)
was a sick comment and great idea and 100% why we did it haha
If I had a nickel for every time a Dragon-type Pokemon fell to UU, got back to OU, and gained a new broken move in the DLC making them a potential test suspect to be banned to Ubers, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
Wait did Bax actually drop to UU? That’s crazy, it was always good in OU.
@@ryankendall3716it dropped cuz chien pao
@@ryankendall3716it was when Chien-Pao was still around, who outclassed it as an offensive Ice Type, and Ice Types aren’t something you can just easily slap on a team, so if you were using an Ice Type it was almost always Chien-Pao
But Moon has the probability of not get banned. The Baxcalibur ones, however, were so obvious to be a "Yes" that they just quickbanned him.
Technically 3 if u want to count Kyurem last gen
I think moon should NOT be banned because the only one of my teams I can get wins with heavily relies on it. This is my analysis
Sounds like a skill issue
Simply run Zweilous. It's the same type so it's basically the same mon
@@SephyClone7 really missed that joke huh 1100?
Sounds like Chi-Yu
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The first game with Iron Moth is so funny. He bluffed Sludge Wave so hard he even bluffed himself 😆
no way this is banned but gambit isn’t
Kingambit is slow
@@lordinfernape4753you are slow
Gambit is the new Lando
@@lordinfernape4753way more annoying with sucker punch and iron head. Broken abilities as well
@@Charlie28330 true, but yea thats basically why people dont ban it, cuz its slow and has common weaknesses i guess. I dont play SV OU so I cant really give an opinion but I can tell you about other ppls opinions or why I think tiering is not taken
Joey your editing quality of these videos are on their own uber level. Seriously you've out done yourself consistently over the last year. Happy to see your growth and hardwork getting paid off
Ty fam, owe it to pedro for all the insane hellp
honestly really disappointing that this is the mon they choose to suspect rn, and not unkillable gliscor or cheap kingambit or gholdengo making hazards impossible to remove not to mention wellspring or manaphy. If gambit didn’t get banned there’s no way this thing will, this just feels like a waste of time
Gambit will be suspected and probably banned fairly soon but they already did a suspect a few months back
And while I agree that moon shouldn’t have been suspected before gliscor which is the most annoying mon in the tier rn imo, it makes sense. Not many mons want to switchin into Tera-dark Knock Off
I'm glad someone mentionned gholdengo, i genuinely think that mon is a very unhealthy presence in OU literally because it blocks defog and spin on top of being an excellent mon despite of that.
If at least there were defogger who threatens it, that would be more manageable.
Also, I like how they introduced this mon in the same gen they gave spikes/sr to everything and got rid of defog on almost every mon that had it before. GF are clowns.
Gliscor going to ubers would be insane lmao.
They took roost from it and somehow its better
Gliscor going to ubers would be insane lmao.
They took roost from it and somehow its better
@@Liliphant_ lol I got crappy internet so it didn’t go through initially
Congrats on 400k Joey. We see and appreciate all your hard work!
First two minutes
“His Corvs not gonna be good into my Ghold”
“There’s a lot mons running boots on the ladder”
It’s good to be back in OU
how did u manage to muster up the enthusiasm when saying "Three Unaware Pokemon!!" you could win an oscar
Crazy to see so many strong mons from gen 9
I can wait till gen 10 power creep
mega tera z dynamax will be lit
Joey!!! Congrats on 400k!!! Been here since PMP days (I gotta flex that every time you hit a milestone lmao), thanks for all the years of content, you helped me through a lot including these days recently
I do love a fierce pokemon with an equally wild reputation. Keep roaring, Moon-Moon.
congrats on getting 400k, been here a long time. i remember the road to number 1 videos back in like gen 7 and thought you were the best player ever. congrats on it dawg🎉
These animations in the beginning of the video are beautiful. Definitely bring the quality of the videos up 1000%.
Grats on 400k homie
New drinking game: take a shot every time Aim doesn't get the boost from Fiery Dance. Guaranteed drunk before 2 games are over
Congratz on 400k Joey!!!!
congrats on the 400k, well-deserved
dude ur intros have been amazing as of late for ur solo vids
Interesting movesets on some mons today. Love to see them put in work
congrats on 400k, well deserved sir
The animation is CLEEEEAN here. Damn. The gen5 esque sprites. Very well done.
This is not banworthy. Unban Darkrai!
But like it is though. After a DD it outspeeds and ohkos every offensive threat in the meta, and now that it has knock off grounded defensive mons like Dondozo or the occasional unaware bold clef can’t reliably check it, since a wall without HDB in a meta like this is barely a wall at all.
Only full physdef corv can check it fully, but it’s super walled by Tera fly unless it runs brave bird/Iron Defense over Press or U-turn, which in this Gambit Gliscor Gholdengo meta you don’t wanna do very much. And with common mons like Gholdengo, Dragapult, Iron Moth and Cinderace, it’s pretty easy to deal with and eliminate should you face it.
Really quite restrictive, insane breaking power + Insane speed + Insane Ability + STAB Knock Off + Dragon Dance is not exactly the fairest combo currently.
Yeah Darkrai should be allowed. It's basically a generic special attacker.
+ves : Plot, decent coverage, Above avg speed
-ves : bad offensive typing, 4mss, no way to boost speed thus easily revenged by every booster mon out there
@@idkputsomerandomname9657 and garbage typing as a offensive threat
@@idkputsomerandomname9657calling dark a bad offensive typing is the best way to completely invalidate whatever you have to say. Whew.
@@HowlingOneify Dark is only good offensively if it's paired with something already good offensively like Water, Fire or Ice.
Otherwise you simply get walled by most Fairies.
It seems as if you've invalidated yourself in an attempt to invalidate me lol.
CONGRATS ON 400K MY BOI!!!! YOU DESERVE THAT HOMIE
That Roaring Moon sprite work goes so fucking hard
Honestly I feel like this meta just has too many broken mons to fix 😂
So clean with the editing.
400k congrats joey
Could you do like a "best/popular teams in OU/UU right now" video? With EV spreads etc, that would be interesting to see for people that aren't playing showdown every day, i think
Congrats on 400k my man!!
congrats on 400k 🎉 huge milestone :)
Just subbed. New about here. Getting on that 400k hype! 😂
CONGRATS ON 400K JOEY WOOOO
GG for the 400K !!
I don't have a strong opinion about it being banworthy, but i do think they should have waited on this suspect test. They haven't given it enough time to show how dominating it is and people are going to be more likely to vote DNB (especially considering it was UU) losing it a chance to eventually get banned if it actually is broken.
But for real how did this get suspected before gambit?!?
Gambit did get a suspect, unless you mean suspected again
@@GlossArtwasn’t that before the dlc. I could be wrong tho
Gambit was suspected in the home meta however it only received 55% support when the margin is 60% and it would look weird if it was suspected again just after it failed to get banned.
a lot of players including high level ones have commented negatively on the metagame quality, so they're acting rapidly. the HO-or-stall scenario and the boots epidemic is rubbing a lot of people the wrong way - especially because theres a high level tournament going on in the middle of all this
and the optics on resuspecting KG so soon after the last vote failed would be weird. it would look like overriding community opinion to force it through, despite it receiving zero new tools
i think enough DNB voters have expressed changing their minds since that the result might be different, but the timing is too soon
Congrats on 400k 🎉🎉🎉
Congrats on 400k!
Aim, I remember PO times when EG and IDM battled the top 10 ranking daily and sometimes we shared teams, u should share the teams u use when u record suspect teams :p nice vid brother.
EG Jhonx~
Congrats on 400K
it’s so insanely strong, after one DD it feels like there is no defensive answer aside from dozo who gets fried by taunt
however, it really doesn’t feel as broken as some other threats in the meta, I got reqs with a moon team on grassy offence but all of my other sweepers (sneas, zama, mana, hatt) felt like they put in a lot more work so idrk, leaning towards ban but still not decided
You made it to 400K finally!
Congrats on 400k
Thanks for showing me Roaring Moon. Just added him to my rain team with Booster Energy and he was just the missing piece my team needed. Just got 5 wins in a row in lower ELO brackets lol
Don't got an opinion on moon but goddamn that animation of it absolutely VIOLATING tusk and the professor got me laughing way harder than it should have. As always, love the content and everyone behind it that works to get it looking as great as it does, and congrats on the 400k mr. aim 🎉🎉🎉
Hi joey hope hope you are having a great day man. Joey what is your favorite past or future form of paradox mons?
Professor Joey goes unfathomably hard
me 9 months ago: it’s so weird that roaring moon doesn’t have knock i wonder why
i used it with decent sucess with a bulky set, enough speed to outspeed the 110 and decent bulk, with roost uturn and knock off it could sponge a lot and provide utility
cant wait for the tera suspect test
I wasn’t too long ago when Roaring moon wasn’t looked as the most viable, things changed in retry fast
Man I swear if they ban this while KEEPING Gambit imma retire
OU council don't ban a pokemon every 5 seconds challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)!!!!!
Once the ban train starts, it goes and goes and goes. You get rid of one op mon and a second one takes it place…
the quality keeps going up. soon…these videos will be in 3D.
The madman actually did it, the professor finally got attacked by the pokemon.
Next video: They want to ban Gliscor.
It feels like the only major change for Roaring Moon aside from Knock Off (which I honestly don’t think is that important in the grand scheme of things) is the lack of competition between Garchomp struggling harder than ever to cut a niche in the meta and Baxcalibur being banished to the cold uncaring reality of OUBL limbo. Feels like Ursaluna all over again except people are more concerned because it has an actual Speed stat, meanwhile we have a far more oppressive Dark type still running amok whose Ability is literally a fighting game comeback in a turn-based RPG.
SV OU is already in a bad state and if we get rid of Salamenace over here before Kingambit I can’t consider it a serious metagame.
unfortunately people wanted Gambit in the tier twice
Roaring Moon won't probably be banned either
Garchomp is at least getting some steam, even tho It is not a giant op mon as in the past
Roaring Moon is doing better in the Smogon Champion League than Kingambit is lmao. It's very much on par as a potent, broken thrwat
And knock off is really important. Not only is it a high BP move, its got serious utility that ensures moon is never deadweight. It also revitalized choice band sets which are significantly more dangerous now and even gave legitimacy to pivot sets. Knock off is an S tier move and perfectly fits on Moon's toolkit.
Waiting for the day Joey decides to try UUbers
Watching this while dropping a draco
the title is so funny to me
"They"
hella ominous sounding LMFAOO
also want being low caps but Ban is caps
The first opponent having 4 Boots is crazy
Finch is trying so hard to cope that tera isn't broken that he's banning everything in the world that is only broken because of the tera mechanic (no I'm not saying the only things banned are because of tera and yes im blaming Finch cause he's my scapegoat and if he can cope I can cope too).
I never understood why this thing dropped to UU. This mon was made to absolutely mangle OU
Finally, the true professor experience of getting bodied by your Pokemon
how are we not talking about Professor Aim in the intro?
so the only buff it got was knock off right? how did this mon become good again? better match up post dlc?
Is it me or this kinda mirrors how in gen 4 Garchomp got banned and then Salamence? Now is Baxcalibur getting banned first and then Roaring Moon gets suspect tested.
What's so surprising?
@@herhhetj5372
When did I say this was anything surprising?
They just love stall
One set I'd want to see built on is Tera Ground Chesnaught.
Bulletproof makes you immune to Gholdengo Shadow Ball and Cinderace Pyro Ball, and allows you to Pivot them in and score a Tera Stab EQ.
Running Rock Slide on the set as well lets you counter if they try to pivot to Flying to go for 4x effective before you Tera to ground.
Bulletproof is probably the worst-named ability ever. It protects against shadow ball, but it doesn’t block Bullet Punch lol.
Sounds gimmicky. Ain't wasting my tera on that
@@ellewong137its a fucking punch
Did somebody use red card in a tournament or something? I've seen it a bit more than usual lately.
You cannot take Roaring moon from me, I won’t let it happen
If that is your reasoning i hope you dont get the reqs
I will be getting reqs and vote no ban, cause Moon is my boi.@@acc3209
I can see why the ban would be suspected, booster energy into acrobatics is kinda crazy but I don't think crazy enough to be banned, not unkillable
it kinda Is Crazy enough, especially because Low to mid ladder don't want to play defensive but Just hyper offense shit
We’re Roaring Back
This feels like deja vu
loving the Sydney sprints ost💙
This is a big stall moment
When will we be tyraniturned
How come whenever i use it does nothing
inspirational UU to Ubers story again.
Why have they not tested Gholdengo or retest Kingambit?
They chose to suspect this??? Not manaphy? Not kingambit??? Lmfao
Community literally voted for this suspect in the survey. And this pokemon is equally broken anyways so removing one is a step in the right direction.
Again**
This isn't the first time we just let chien pao war crimes make us forget
It’s crazy that roaring moon is getting suspect tested over kingambit. Sure with gambit a lot of stuff is 50/50s and not instant wins but the fact it can force the opponent into that is wild. Maybe I’m missing something but I feel that gambit has been way more oppressive to team building then roaring moon has been. I am not anywhere near the top of ladder so maybe I’m just bad but just my thoughts on the matter
I think the issue is they just suspected Gambit not that long ago and despite many of all skill levels deciding its a questionable component of OU with how often it forces 50/50s and tera allowing it to bypass many checks...it barely survived the suspect meaning that it likely be a while longer before it comes back around for another.
How many pokemon need to get banned before they just ban terra?
Tbh Tera probably won't be banned in full.
when the reasoning for most mons being insanely broken is tera, then maybe, just maybe, its not the mon thats broken. but smogon is run by clowns wcyd
#JustbanTera
zmoves in gen 7 broke a ton of stuff in lower tiers, when ou is put in a similar position it's suddenly a problem despite ou being the most power crept main tier, like what do you expect lol
exactly. tera is such a dumb mechanic
I personally don't see anything wrong with a mom that encourages specific tera types as long as the mon itself isn't unbearable to deal with once you're not weak it, its when it forces a specific type across multiple mons that I see a problem
The council hates Tera entirely and wants it banned.
Which is why they banned Volcarona. Which didn't even have the usage of Goldengo or Kingambit does now.
And without it, those two have taken over because it was a main check on them.
Except forcing players to rely entirely on reactive tera is a bad thing and a sign of something being wrong. It's immensely restrictive and warps gameplay around it
roaring moon before kingambit has to be insanity right
Talk about an Arc from OU to UU and back to OU and potentially UBERS
Espathra and Bax did it to
Smogon is outta control
WE BEAT THE ROARING MID ALLEGATIONS YEAHHH
Love it!
Just curious, like in game 3 I think it was, maybe 4, if you're just going to sac Samu anyways why not just Sucker the Meowscarada for more chip instead of no damage at all?
Basically if they were sashed and wanted to try and spikes i get more
@pokeaimMD So even tho sash is already broken, you're thinking taking the chance for 2nd layer of spike + damage is > getting Sucker Damage? Always trying to figure this stuff out because in my head I'm like always Sucker but I didn't think about the possible spikes lead either, just assumed they'd take the KO on Samu rather than risk another big hit. Even tho Glim finished
yup! chip on meow doesn't matter for any member on the team to knock it out so second spike had more value even if it didnt work out@@ChefBoyYeshua
WE ARE SO ROARING BACK, BOYS!
The fact showdown still doesn't have the Gen 9 pokemon's 3d models is embarrassing. At least make back sprites. This looks so dumb.
I will be so lost if Moon gets banned before Gambit. I will be so lost if Moon gets banned before Gambit. This vid showes me how much influence both Gambit
And Gholdango have over the whole metagame considering almot every opponent had one of those pokemon on their teams (aside from the frosmoth team).
WE BUGGIN
Moaring Room
Booster energy ignores Unaware huhhh