Sony A7S III vs Canon R5 - Which Camera Footage Looks Better?
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OKAY I hateeeee how different colors look while youre editing in Premiere VS the export.... this is not at all what the colours looked like in Premiere but hey itll have to do for now 😂
I've been waiting for this :D
First here
Matti! You’re the coolest, man. Thanks for being you 🙌🏼
@@Jamesfrancosdog yea
I never thought you saying Sony wins over the canon would ever happen. I guess 2020 is really a weird year hahaha!
As someone who can’t afford either the R5 or a7sIII I still find this very informative and entertaining 😂
Bruh! I feel you !😞
So true.. 😂 Sadely 😐
Am dead laughing 😂😂😂🤣🤣
You took it right out of my mouth 😂😂😂😂
😂 so far I’ve saved $800 still far ahead 😂
I appreciate how you're just a camera guy and just want the best camera for you, and not caring about the brand so much.
Both are incredible cameras!
That's what he says but obviously brand does matter to him. He uses canon, and is trying to convince himself that a broken camera is better for him... because it is canon. Did you see video when he received the Sony? He claimed he never used one before and had his friend test it for him.
He's a canon ambassador 😂😭 he's gonna choose the r5
I agree 👍 People get so blinded by brand loyalty that they don't look at the reality of difference in equipment. Matti does a great job at looking at equipment with a realistic point of view.
@@brianbassett5468 Blinded is off target, it is that you get invested in a system, he has CanonC200 and a bunch of canon lenses, color grading with different brands in the same video can look bad.
Lol matti is notoriously biased towards Canon
Fruedian slip at 15:53. “I don’t want to use the R5 anymore!” 😂 he meant to say “R”.
I just noticed that!
yup
maybe he said the truth! he doesn't want to use the R5!
@@mixeddrinks8100 that's what freudian slip means =P
That’s the verdict. A7siii it is
Can we just blend the cameras together? The R5Siii
The RSiii ii
haha then everyone would be happy
Canyon? Sanon? Cony? Sanyon? not sure what their mashup name would be, but that's definitely the one that I would expect never to happen. Panasonic probably also wouldn't split because they make a solid video shooter and panasonic makes other stuff just like sony and canon. Black magic maybe since they don't make much other than cameras, so would probably sell if someone offered a ton of money. And nikon, pentax, fuji, etc. They just don't seem to be in the game much anymore so not sure how they are staying afloat.
Bro honestly I’d donate my left leg for that
And the company would be called Canny
I wish you had shown fast moving objects for the 120 rather than a stationary subject.
"This poor little EOS R"
*sighs*
I was going to get the R, but probably getting the R6
right? :)
And here I am sporting the M50🤪
@@DiegoBoquer you def should! I have the R5 and it's incredible, I've been shooting 4K 24 with no overheating issues. The AF is insane and the tech is obviously the best so far. Since the R6 is the younger brother with 1DXMiii sensor, it's a no brainer get that if you can! Also if you want to print large, 20 mp is really good. My retired 80D has 24mp and I was able to print 17x22" prints with no noise and excellent quality.
Fred thanks dude. Where did you get the R5 from? R6 is only preorder
I don't like how the Sony has so much green in the skin tones, making skin look jaundiced.
sony sucks...case closed hahahaha...the engineer in sony probably all colour blind nerds...play playstation too much i guess
@@mbismbismb haters
@@Ionutble there is a reason to hate though... ugly colours 😎 so? Do u want to force to like it? Eew
Matti: *complaining his EOS R does not look good anymore*
Me *watching my old 70D*: "I mean, at least I have autofocus"
Me having 1300D and it doesn't have autofocus too 🤧
i have the 70D and 6D (no AF). its time for an upgrade
Me witha 1500D at least I have a camera.
I have the t3i, it doesn't have autofocus but at least it doesn't overheat.
70D here 😂
Question is, which hurt more when you gave them back? lol
obviously canon
@@dannyjonze sonaayyy
Dude Premiere exports correct color you have to put the Gamma LUT Adobe provides on your output.
I like when I move all over the place in front of my EOS R it LOCKS into focus but when I sit down for a talking head shot..it sometimes misfires on the AF lol. wtc
EOS R is like, 'HOW DARE YOU FILM THIS VIDEO WITH ME"
😂😂😂
15:53 “I don’t want to use the Eos R* anymore” is what he meant, I think.
😂😂😂😂
Or maybe his subconscious gave him the answer?
I was wondering the same thing
Maybe it just over heated
Why didnt you do a side by side standard and log WITHOUT any coloring to see it in its sooc'est of forms?...this test isn't very helpful to me. Just changing contrast and saturation is not a fair comparison as different color spaces have different values when placed in a rec 709 premiere space.
Needs are subjective and he didn't make the video specifically for Your needs. As he mentioned in the beginning of the video, he made this more so for himself just to test the quality.
Sam.i.am the literal title is “...which camera looks better?” how is that not tailored to his viewers to make a decision about which $4,000 camera they want to buy?
Totally agree
Comparing log footage wouldn't be useful either as the low contrast would make it difficult to gauge color differences. Best would be the log footage plus the manufacturer's rec709 lut.
Matti - Did you hear that the R5 can record 4k30HQ externally for 4 hours if you remove the cards from the internal card slots? Gerald Undone is hoping some more R5 owners will confirm this. Some channel did a video about it, and it really did appear to record for 4 hours before finally overheating. If this "hack" is real, it could be a game changer for R5 owners will heavier video needs. The TH-cam channel with the video is called "No Life", and the video title is "Canon R5 Overheating Saga Pt. 1 - Over 4 Hours External Recording Ninja V".
I think No Life (channel who did the video) said they have another video coming out where they use the LP6H battery instead of the dummy battery used on the 1st test.
God I would love for that to work too with the Ninja V
@@jaegerschtulmann Yes, but the hack (if confirmed) could suddenly make the R6 a viable (and cheaper) option for hybrid shooters. I don't need a 48MP sensor for my stills work, so $2,500+$700 for a ninja (only if I have heating problems) may be the ideal compromise.
It will also be a game changer for Atomos Ninja V, cus most R5 video shooter would have to get one.
@@jaegerschtulmann plus the added payload/rig size
he did part two follow up video and yes he also confirmed that the recording time even with the battery inserted can last all the way til the battery dies
4K vs 8K wasn’t the best option for testing.
Agreed... totally destroys the purported 'neutrality/objectivity' of the test
Not that you can tell the difference on a smartphone... or even a 4k monitor. (In terms of resolution)
8K 12 bit raw vs 4K 10 bit (h.265 unless he recorded externally) is not a fair test. One is compressed and the other is not. 4K internal vs 4K internal would have been better.
E L E V A T I agree that you wouldn’t be able to see the resolution difference but you would be able to see color differences when one is raw and the other isn’t.
I assumed this was a “best possible” comparison, but yeah, would be nice to see 4K v 4K. But maybe not... I’ve already decided, and maybe I don’t need any more reasons to question my choice 😁
One thing to consider, Sony S-Gamut color space is a little wider than DCI-P3, so definitely not rec709. If you want accurate representation of colors use the appropriate lut to bring it to rec709. Also for best dynamic range use S-log3 because now you have 10bit 4:2:2 so it's actually usable.
I love these break down videos where you just compare everything and do show and tell.
4K vs 8k. “It looks sharper on the canon” no, really? I can’t think why :/
Seriously 😂 What a dumb comparison
It’s not a dumb comparison for say. Wasn’t really fair for matti to say that the canon is sharper. Which it is in every way cuz it has more megapixels and a higher resolution. Again it’s a hybrid mirrorless camera vs a compact cinema camera.
He had to give Canon two free wins (this and the photo category) or it would have been a slaughter.
Shouldve tested 8K outside , see if it would even work
@@davemunoz9742 Doesnt make a difference. As other tests showed, enviroment heat doesnt influence the internal heat of the R5.
Interesting... Sometimes A7Siii looks better, sometimes R5, but i agree that A7Siii looks more like a cinema camera, closer to FX9 with their cinetone.
I prefer Sony to be honest
I do prefer Sony and their glass is pretty great but that Canon RF glass is freaking incredible
@@Lil_Lobo yes, i agree, canon rf glasses is amazing! But Sony's G Masters is also top level
Sony is the best !!!!!
AGREE 100
@@MagnetiqLabs + 24-70 and 15-35 RF glasses have IS which GM sony not.
What a great year for cameras, who know 2020 would give us so many cameras.
Yeah we have to document the impending apocalypse
true, so many mirrorless releases in the last 2 years from various brands = more choice for us 😁
Don't lose the wood!! It's a great color and texture and feeling in the studio and as a background. Great comparison video! Thank you so much!
I love that even though you're normally a canon guy, you're still able to give credit where credit is due. I think a lot of other channels are such fanboys of certain brands that they always lean in favor of "their" brand. It reminds me that its all about what camera works best for me, not which one I WANT to work best. Thanks Matti!
Thanks for doing this! I have been looking for this side-by-side for a while. My only hesitancy for getting a a7iv was canon's supposed advantage in color science. But, after seeing this, I prefer the Sony. Would you say the a7iv has about the same color as this a7siii?
the sony "Active" stabilisation is actually just the camera cropping more in so the sensor has more room to move. Its not digital stabilisation, but you can use the gyroscope data to stabilize the footage later
Kinda the same thing but yes
Matti Haapoja not really Matti, electronic stabilization offered by Fuji, Canon and the Sony ZV-1(confusingly called active too) is digital image stabilization which can work but can also make things looks a bit warpy occasionally. It does tend to make things look smoother most of the time though, less mechanical. The A7S III active mode does indeed crop into the sensor 1.1x to give the IBIS more play. One of the biggest issues with the Sony IBIS is their smaller lens mount limits how much the sensor can shift. Canon, Fuji and Panasonic is mostly better due to having more of the sensor to shift. It remains entirely mechanical. It’s isn’t electronic or digital. So this new active mode is better for this simple reason. Then with the gyro data you can add really impressive post stabilization using that info in catalyst browse. I covered this in depth in my review 😊
It feels like Sony caught up with Canon and now the color science is great for both. At this point it's really just personal preference
Or wether you have more gear on any setup
it's always been personal preference
Says who they caught up? It still has the green tint - much less but it's STILL there
@@plisskenetic just shoot raw lo who cares
@@plisskenetic you realize color grading “fixes” that
When it comes to the color science, I believe it depends on the white balance. If you leave the camera in auto white balance, they may correct the image more on the green side (sony) or more on the magenta side (canon) but if you set the white balance, you'll be able to see the true color science instead of the white balance. Gerald undone and many others have shown that the sony colors are pretty accurate and canon colors tend to lean towards magenta to flatter skin tones. But in reality, its a simple adjustment of the white balance slider to dial things in to your taste. Unless you're always using the straight out of camera footage and leaving it in auto white balance, I don't think color science is a problem at this point.
3:27 - when you leave the select character option on a video game for too long & they’re start doing small movements 😂
oooh, I'll bet you're right and that it is a dynamic range issue. Hopefully the R5 will get a clog 3 update, which should help a lot on that front ("Sony looking more cinematic" point)
No it’s helps not even a stop (Gerald Undone did a test)
Sony is boss
sony has a bit more for sure. all up to what look you like better
Thank you so much for the comparison video. I have no regrets in my pre-order now!
9:18 ummm, the A7S III looks way sharper here, and has more detail. The dynamic range is also a lot better of course. Did you miss focus with the R5?
Yea bro. He missed it. A7Siii’s still image looked awesome to me, way better than R5!
I noticed it too. Sony sharper on the eye
Yeah, I thought that too. The A7S III looks a lot better, i wonder if he mixed up the images.
a7S III has more artifacting in its image. JPEG may have sharpened it more as well
Way sharper with the Sony. Must be a mistake. R5 should be sharper
Hey Matti if I’ve already bought these presets for premiere Pro but I’m now currently using Final Cut Pro X would you be able to make an exception to downloading the final cut Pro X version instead of having to purchase it again?
That would be awesome if you could do that!
Damn the SONY looks amazing.
at this point, i just like how Matti makes his content, and how well put together it is, been fan since the channel was still travel feels, so no matter what camera he uses I would still love his content, its on the skills not the camera.
Something important worth noting is that a talented photographer can pick up anything and produce amazing photos and video.
These videos definitely help to figure out what camera suits someone best. You could flip a coin and be good with both for at least a decade.
Matti did you accidentally swap the images in the photo test? Because the Sony a7siii looks sharper to me somehow haha
Same
Yeah I seen that too, but it could just be the Sony over sharpening the jpg in camera. I guess it would be easier to see on a big screen and not an iPhone screen though!
Oh I'm glad it's not just me, thought I just had Sony on the brain and assume Sony always looks better🤷🏼
Lower resolution images will appear sharper when displayed on a 4K timeline like this. This is due to the lower resolution image having a bit of roughness that will come across as artificial sharpening in 4K and be unnoticeable to the human eye. 45MP image is scaled down the pixels scale with it and become much finer which creates the illusion of the lower resolution being softer when in fact it would be certainly sharper at 100% or printed.
Chase the Summit it would have been nice if he zoomed in 100% into the eye on that shot! I think you would have seen instantly what the difference was between the two cameras.
Matti : Has a Mac, tells how the As7iii and Eos R footage looks juggy while editing.
Me, trying to edit a minute of random shots taken on phone to a BRoll, takes 2 hours to render. 🗿📉
Haven't been this early though fam. ✌️😂
I feel u bruh 😂
Damn bruh
Great video! Super helpful
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Seeing you back on the EOS R shooting 1080p again and still looking great for online content work...
really reminds me that 4k/8k/HQ/Raw isn't that necessary yet for typical YT vlogs :P
True that
For some people, it will make big difference, but 1080p still definitely good enough if people aren't consciously peeping resolutions
Very true. Many people don't even watch TH-cam on 4k displays. 4k/8k do come in handy if you want to stabilize or crop after the fact, though. The freedom to control your framing in post and not lose any resolution on export is pretty sweet.
Meanwhile me: *staring at my t7i* ...
Sigh
I'm doing the same.
same
Also using a t7i
This is great CAMERA! Both video and photo are GOOD!
Me looking at my T3 trembling in the bag...... just need to save up a little more for that full frame.
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Well damn, this feels like a harder decision to make then moving to another country lmao
Meanwhile I just got the A7 iii lol
Still a sick camera though 👌
it’s a different camera doesn’t compare to these, and still considered new, one of the best in the market too so nothing to feel bad about
Me too 😁👍
Best hybrid out
K9OUSSAY lol me too. I was going to get the R6 then I was like nah.
Great content as always Matti! such an inspiration.
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I like the look of Matti's skin tone with the Sony better... The quality of the image seems similar, I feel like the colors are just better looking in the Sony now. Which I never thought I would say that because of have always been a huge fan of Canon color.🙃🙂
I was surprised, I thought the sony looked better and I actually thought it was the Canon before he told us. I'm a sony user and I just assumed the better footage was the canon.
Really? I was completely canon here. Sony looks flat out green.
Sonys new venice like color is now more cinematic and "less technically accurate".. Sony color was always technical where canons was more blue skies and better skin tones. Also w slog3 u can get whatever you want. You didn't mention there is no clog3 in R5 and it's bc its not high enough with its DR. Like sonys old 8 bit and slog3 was pointless. But now its literally a cine camera. 15 stops of DR tested. Thx gerald undone. No overheating in 4k standard. Thx matti. For video.. its no comparison.. if you shoot only photos than sure 45mp is higher than 12mp. But sony had 42mp camera 5 yrs ago. A7riii is still great camera w no overheating issues at all.. and A7riv does medium format quality. Look at armandos R5 shoot. He's a canon guy and speaks to it overheating badly. I'd wait til 2nd iteration if I owned Ef glass. Get 1dxiii if u do Events.. i don't think its reliable enough for pro environments.
@@andreasdk I personally feel that the Canon in this application is giving a more accurate image of Matti's skin tone maybe a little more pink than real life but that slightly green tint (sony) seems to look really nice to me but when it comes to color science it's all completely a matter of opinion. They both look great and I completely agree with Matti that the Canon color seems to be more true to life. I'm just really liking the dynamic range and color of the Sony more.
@@explorer.dream.discover I agree 👍 I mean both are excellent! Just really liking the look from the Sony
The Sony looks more like a cinema camera than the R5 IMO. Both look great but those outdoor shots on the Sony look incredible.
Did you match the shots with a grey card though? The canon looks a bit cooler with a harsher highlight roll off IMO but I’m also watching on a phone.
The dynamic range difference is apparent
In your autofocus test, if you look into the out of focus background, the a7sIII has these incremental sudden shifting motions that makes it distracting whereas the R5 is fully smooth throughout. So in that regard, the R5 is better. But addressing this issue with Sony could help in updating the firmware to correct it. Could also be a particular lens issue.
Thank you Matti! Super practical and helped clarify some things for us.
I think whoever is choosing between these two cameras needs to remember that the Sony A7Siii is a video camera first and the Canon R5 is a photo camera first with video capabilities.
You are right sir
and i cant wait to see a7siii vs an R3
To me, the Canon looks better image/color wise for the vast majority of the examples.
It all depends on how you color the footage.
Matthew yeah I don’t understand this. You can get SLOG 3 footage to look like whatever you want especially with the dynamic range that is coming out of the Sony.
Interesting because I feel the opposite. The R5 leans heavily on the magenta side and makes skin look red. But I agree with Matti that this is a preference issue.
@@sstteevveenn77 it also may have to do with all of our individual monitors. I have two "identical" monitors, yet even with the same settings they have slightly different color reproduction. Neither are particularly fancy, but I'll give it a look on my laptop, which has a much more accurate display.
77dris might wanna go look at Gerald undone on that one, because it isn’t true. Dynamic range will be that of an a7iii, it still won’t match the a7siii. I’m not caught up in specs, I’m caught up in results, which for video heavily favored towards a7siii.
Great test. The one thing that is truly missing is comparison of low-light performance.
Thanks Matti for this comparison
You should do a video comparison between Premiere - Final Cut - DaVinci, a lot of people are moving away from Premiere it seems
I found the RAW from the R5 has crazy dynamic range with CLOG 2. It takes forever to make proxies and export the final project though haha
@@TackJorrance The RAW is CLOG 2 in premiere and resolve on the R5 and 1DX III
I think if you shoot raw you can choose clog2 afterwards.
I really hope they will give us clog2 and clog3 in future firmware updates
Pretty cool and interesting. Thank you
Hi Matti, Thanks for doing this, it's very informative. What lenses were you using during the autofocus comparison? I'm wondering how adapted Canon lenses do on the a7sIII.
With the Sony your subjects don’t need a tan, the Sony gives you a free tan. 😂
I am a canon shooter all my life, I like Canon and yet, i think Sony looks more cinematic (any Sony really)... In the movies that we all love the colors are not always true to anything. This is what makes it so dreamy so we call it "cinematic" ... The dynamic range is a more important component and Sony has plenty of it! So Sony users, just be happy and go shoot!
good analysis. colour grading is part of the creation process. the canon here looked really accurate, but it's what someone might do with it .
Still trying to decide so thanks!! Watching now!
Nice one bro👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Sony looked better in color and detail IMO.
Hm, to me, Canon looks better at @7:36
Canon colors are great
🤣😂🤣😂
Yep, I agreed! But it $3000?! I hope that cost is joke😂
it's more like personal preference then that one camera is better.
Matti, great video, your reviews are so honest, Keep it up... Greetings from Ecuador
Thanks for the great review! I’d love to see a comparison of these with the new Red Komodo 6k. Have you had any experience with that camera yet?
It doesn't matter which one is better. Any camera on Matti's hands is fire 🔥
If you film with the r5 for long time it would be fire💥 on everyones hands
I feel like we’re stepping into the golden era of Matti’s content and I’m here for it
Thanks Matti! Nice work! I completely agree that both seem to be awesome cameras. On paper they stack the latest tech advancements high enough for any and all gearheads to be in gear heaven. Arguing over which is better in an absolute sense is splitting hairs IMHO. We are getting such great image creation tools out of both companies because of their competition that I just feel fortunate to be on the receiving end of such great offerings. All it really comes down to it what suits *you* - the individual - best, and this is what I appreciate about this video of yours. No need to apologize for your opinion on your own equipment and choices of the same. Thanks again for your input!
Ha ha… loved that little Freudian slip at the end there… “I don’t want to use the R5 anymore!” As Darth Vader might say… “Your thoughts betray you… “ ha ha
Sony a7siii still has that green tint to it..I’m looking at it from a 65” OLED 4k....and the crop is pretty big, it’s like going from a 20mm to 24mm
20mm to 22mm. It’s 1.1x
On TH-cam? Remember you can grade the Sony any way you want. Go have a look at Gerald Undone. He comes to the opposite conclusion. The Sony has the more accurate colours while the Canon is all over the place. Plus if you shoot in SLog3 or Canon log you’re going to be grading anyway.
well you can just tint it to the blue like canon does .. dont see any deal with that. If you buy 4000$ cam you dont shoot in jpgs with it .. if you do then good luck to you. :)
To me the Sony still looks way to green and overall terrible. Even the red on the bricks just looks not as good.
Right I agree I was little upset of skin color I was really hoping to get rid of Canon but confirming Sony still the same I am keeping Canon. I understand it’s now 10bit but it’s not so easy to control skin color science by hand perfectly as Canon does automatically
Watching this while unboxing my X-T4 🤭
the black wall looks great!!
Great comparison Matti.
Never thought I would choose Sony just a month ago. Was so hyped with the R5 and Komodo. Haven’t used a Sony in a decade. Komodo still has full 16 bit RAW and higher dynamic range, but the A7SIII is really high quality and feature rich, especially AF and 4K120.
I liked the footage of Sony😍 More cinematic and dynamic range
Side by side comparisons are where its at! Anyone have any tips on getting better skin tones out of the Sony?
*pats my back for catching the wall before you mentioned it lmao. I was really waiting til the video ended to go back to previous videos to see when I missed the change.
This is a bad comparison by far. The most jaw dropping ofc was “the a7s iii colors are more cinematic”!! Do you actually know what means cinematic?
Cinematic look is the perception that we built up in our memory of all those images filmed during the non digital era. People`s faces looked smoothier than today`s digital haarsh details. So, in today`s digital era, saying that a given image looks more cinematic is the same as saying that that image is less detailed. Using a poorer quality lens on any camera and yield a cinematic look. However, it must be added to this concept of cinematic look the fact that a good quality lens is not only restricted to its capability to produce sharp images. Take, for instances, any Cooke brand lens. It will produce the famous "Cooke Look", meaning a more 3D sense of ambience space while being very detailed yet not harsh. The final result of a recorded image will be always, as it has been since the creation of photography, a combination of the mutual inter-relation between thce glass and the sensor (digital or film negative). In this respect, the size of the sensor nor the amount of digital pixels will be the sole aspect to be considered behind the production of a good qualitiy image. Today`s extremely expensive Arri and Panavision cine cameras use, mostly, smaller sensors than the Sony A7S III and the Canon R5. With regard to comparing thsese two cameras, 4K X 8K, I concur with the author`s viewpoint to show us what each camera has to offer at its best. Furthermore, in the case of the Canon R5, should it be compared 4K X 4K against Sony`s, the R5 would still look more detailed since its 4K option would be oversampled from its rooted 8K capability. A 4K image, oversampled from 8K will look even better since its rooted pixels will be compressed into 4K.
@Brian Taylor Cool, Brian, but, at least I expressed my subjective perception to define cinematic (without quotes). You did not. Whoever`s view to explain what cinematic is it will be always subjective since it is a question of human perception. Come out and try to give me your own perception of what cinematic is and I might agree with it or not. The first time ever when someone used the word cinematic he or she was comparing a given footage to another that did not resemble the same visual appearance that cine films had been impressing to that date and, I bet you, Brian, he-she was comparing it to digital. One may say that digital is cold and film is warm. Another may say that digital is harsh and film is soft, and so on. Some may prefer digital to cine and vice-versa. So, defining cinematic does not use a mathematical formula. Perhaps one day will come that the term cinematic will be by and large connected to the looks of a digital footage and the original old pictures be defined by some other neology. I will always respect your own definition of cinematic since I have no clues (nobody has) to fully understand what Brian Taylor sees when he opens his eyes. The other day I went to visit the school where I attended when I was a little boy. Everything looked so different to what my memory always told me how that school looked like. In fact, although the buidings remained the same Ricardo had grown up, his optical nerves had worn out, his perception of the world around him was not the same. To my sight today, lttle Ricardo`s perception of his school was less cinematic. Ricardo`s eyes today sees the world with old lenses.
@Brian Taylor Cool, Brian, but, at least I expressed my subjective perception to define cinematic (without quotes). You did not. Whoever`s view to explain what cinematic is it will be always subjective since it is a question of human perception. Come out and try to give me your own perception of what cinematic is and I might agree with it or not. The first time ever when someone used the word cinematic he or she was comparing a given footage to another that did not resemble the same visual appearance that cine films had been impressing to that date and, I bet you, Brian, he-she was comparing it to digital. One may say that digital is cold and film is warm. Another may say that digital is harsh and film is soft, and so on. Some may prefer digital to cine and vice-versa. So, defining cinematic does not use a mathematical formula. Perhaps one day will come that the term cinematic will be by and large connected to the looks of a digital footage and the original old pictures be defined by some other neology. I will always respect your own definition of cinematic since I have no clues (nobody has) to fully understand what Brian Taylor sees when he opens his eyes. The other day I went to visit the school where I attended when I was a little boy. Everything looked so different to what my memory always told me how that school looked like. In fact, although the buidings remained the same Ricardo had grown up, his optical nerves had worn out, his perception of the world around him was not the same. To my sight today, lttle Ricardo`s perception of his school was less cinematic. Ricardo`s eyes today sees the world with old lenses.
Old lenses sending light rays to a lesser pixels sensor.
Just joking, but how is the Sony smaller when you need a gimbal to keep up with Canon's image stabilization? Haha. Great video.
@Foto4Max Canon can lower its standard settings for an apples to apples comparison in 4k, and beat Sony. Dont hate, because Sony hasn't figured out 8k yet. They are a close 2nd, if you don't mind their short comings.
I'd be curious to see some A7S3 footage processed through Catalyst for stabilization compared to the regular/active IBIS
This wave of tech was great for content creators, channel has been busy haha love to see it
Also is it not crazy to think this PHOTO camera can even be compared to a full video body
Sony and their damn yellow skin tones. 6:18 is a particularly egregious example. People who say they can't tell the difference between Sony and Canon color science, it truly boggles the mind.
Yeah that's definitely a deal breaker, can't stand spending 3 seconds correcting white balance, but I'll spend 2 hours with color correction, but not if the white balance is a bit yellow from camera that sucks Canon is the only choice
@@andrescarrasco1248 This couldnt be accurate. Sony cameras do not shoot that warm. You can put a sony a panasonic and canon next to eachother and fire em off, they shoot warmer tones than the sony. There is no way that one shot had the guy outside that orange and the canon was pale clear in comparison. That's almost laughable. User error not camera
Probably messed up the white balance in camera and didnt correct it in post. On the other hand, Canon's skin tones are too pink. If you want perfect skin tones, buy an Alexa lol
Nothing that can't can be changed in post. Still prefer the sony here. Looks like a the white balance wasn't set a bit warmer for the sony here.
The concrete looks yellower too. So the white balance is not the same here.
No comparison. That canon footage is epic. 😃
love this review!
Totally understand the quality struggle. I used an RP the other day and even though it is an awesome camera, I just missed all the stuff I use on my R. I can only imagine how the R5/R6 feel! 🤪
Canon's IBIS makes it look like it's on a gimbal, Sony's IBIS makes it look like it doesn't have IBIS! The good news is that both cameras colours should be easy to match in post!
Tbh, I'd rather less smooth than having warp stabilizer like artifacts baked into the footage. 7:20
Sony has an Active mode for when the camera is moving. The standard stabilized mode should not have been used when the camera was moving. When he did show movement with Active on, it cleaned-up quite a bit.
We are all splitting hairs at this point. They are both great.
Rocky Cola When looking at image quality, you are correct. But, when it comes to usability, the Sony is ahead for people who need dependability. Of course I am talking about overheating, but also the dual card slots. A duplicate video can be recorded to the 2nd card slot on the Sony but not on the Canon. That is a big deal for some people, along with limited record times in the higher quality modes on the Canon.
Dan Donovan sony is the only camera to ever not be dependable and corrupt cards. I have used both for the last 8 years and repeatable from time to time the sony fucks up a card. Best part is they are both using Sony cards.
schumif1champ Sorry to hear that! I switched to Sony from Nikon almost 2 years ago. I started with the a9 and a7RIII and now shoot with the a9II and a7RIV. Luckily no card failures. But, card failures are usually a card issue and not a camera problem. I use Lexar and SanDisk, but have not tried Sony cards yet. I thought the Sony tough cards would be next, but I will look into those before buying!
@@dandonovan1 I asked many Nikon DSLR photographers what they thought about Nikon Z6/Z7 & they all brought up the issue of single card slot, yes I agree with you, dual slots are a big deal if you are making a living with these cameras
Matti I can’t wait for the Premiere Pro vs FCPX!
Question can you post the files so we can see how the video files work on our computers I downloaded some Sony footage and it worked fine so maybe his footage was compressed
This predicament of A7SIII vs R5 is literally giving our whole team nightmares. We can't sleep at night. 😩
Just get both :P
It should be easy...if you need a lot of video, the Canon will not work in a production environment. Watch the wrap-up at the end of Gerald Undone’s review. He says exactly when each camera will work well and when it won’t.
The "green-yellow" tint generally looks more pleasing to the eye, than the "blue-magenta" tint, from what is see, Sony wins. It is not always the reality that we perceive as pleasant, but what we imagine the reality to be ☺️
I agree.
Hey matti, loving your videos and always on tip.toe waiting for you to release videos.
Just want to know how do u fix the additional storage which fcpx uses while editing? They eat up lot of my storage space
awsome video cant wait for sept lol. Do a test between the new sony mic and the Rode vmp+? would def help me in makin choice if its worth it to change to that for the wireless feature and size.
I really love the Sony´s skin tones, the dynamic (tho it´s marginal), the Eye AF and AF as general, and of course the low light is better but that we know already. I mean, if somebody´s seeing this and isn´t in any of these systems I think the Sony´s a better option for video, and you can buy a A7III for 1400 euros and have a photo camera with all the lenses and the Canon idk, it doesn´t seem so interesting at this point, it´s a super inovative camera, but for me, the Sony´s have been the best for years (and i even prefer the Z6 over de R believe me), so Canon doesn´t seem the "better" option here.
Compares 8k vs 4k saying the 8k has more detail... DUHH lol
Well Matti explained once that there’s a difference between detail and resolution. A GoPro in 4K will have less detail than a DSLR or mirrorless in 1080. But still, you’re right, it wasn’t an apples to apples comparison with the different resolutions.
from other tests canon's 4k 30p HQ has been consistently showing more details than a7siii 4k 30p videos. At the same time, a7siii 60p and 120p has been consistently than the canon r5 on 60p and 120p.
@@stevenkralovec I just found what he said and was doing funny... I respect his opinions.
@@vipersrt30 that's good to know, bet 4k60 is a popular choice
The colors on the new sony a7siii are just amazing!
Hi Matti, just so you know, you are my favorite youtuber/filmmaker now. Thank you.