Shield 4 (second part), elixir 4, and medkit 5 are all blast finishers so they can be combo'd off water fields (mortar 5, medkit 3) for burst healing or light field (elixir 5) for condi cleanse. The rotation opener uses shield 4 and elixir 4 without fields because you typically won't need these effects at the beginning of a fight. This can be helpful to slightly adjust a rotation for burst healing/cleanse, especially when moving to a new location in the fight with no fields on the ground.
@@DylanVinesett Same, I use 5 then 4, instead of 4 then 5, precisely because of the area cleanse. Even if I don't need it, it's important to keep the rotation up.
Yo, This build is VERY STRONG and fairly new, make sure to look at the video description to find the build link and lots of extra information! Share this with anyone that is interested in learning the build and let me know in the comments if you have any questions, I'm always reading and replying to all of them.
You should acknowledge the unique interaction that the mace has with everything else. For those who're unaware Mechanist allows for something I call Mace-weaving where you can have 1a->Skill->1b->Skill->1c without resetting the chain. This allows for incredible flexibility of playstyle where Crisis Zone can be used in a crisis to minimize it instead of it being a part of your rotation. This feels extremely good as you can use it to cover spots where your passive healing would otherwise have a hard time keeping up.
it can but if you don't get all medkits to hit the downed target it's a waste of time and effort and you could have just ressed for more healing for that duration
For one second i missed all combo's and water/light - fields. But it is in the discription. Elixir gun Skill 4 is also a very good positioning skill ( without kit swap ) with shadow step, too. Elixir gun skill 3 is a nice condi remove. THX for your video. 2-3 new tipps i get it!
You just make the best, and maybe only real tutorials fot gw. Explaining how and why to use spells instead of giving us a list with buttons to press. Also I am not intrested in playing mech at the moment. I am making sure to post this im my guilds discord
Couple of questions about the build. I've been playing it for fractals, and I am wondering why elixir gun and mortality kit? Elixir gun seems to offer very little in the way of healing and I keep 25 might well without it. There are also a lot of solid options in place of it including various great CC options and shift signet to buff the mech. Elite mortar kit seems alright but the safety from the Overclock signet with maintaining mech uptime in case it dies seems too good to pass up for a small increase in dps. What am I missing with these skills because I see them on every build but don't understand why?
You can't keep 25 might by yourself without Elixir Gun and Mortar Kit, you probably have someone else cover it up for you, you can generate 18 without those 2 kits, a the golem will slowly get you to 22 but you will never reach 25, unless you use something like the mistlock to precast, but that would still mean that in split phases or during any kind of downtime you will not be at 25.
the build already has shift signet. you should either replace it first or maybe barrier signet, never egun egun 5 heals a lot and traited it's like 12s every 14s, huge uptime! mortar 5 also provides good healing. between super elixir ticks, regen and barrier, people are getting constantly topped up. then you can burst heal with mortar5 both are an important source of might, like mela already explained. even if you were to cap might without them, they're still very good healing
Indeed. VERY strong build and fairly simple to play. As a TRUE support, the res capability isnt huge, but I doubt many will go down! Id love to try a mercy rune version potentially! Thanks bud!
I'm sorry, pretty noob in the strike/raid/fractal realm, so how do I understand these steps? I do step 1 and then watch my cooldown on f2 and f3 until rdy and then do step 2 and then step 3. Then when f2 and f3 are rdy ill restart with step 1. I'm new in this world but would like to be alle to deliver something usefull for my group 🙂
Why elixir 4 > cancel > elixir 5? Doesn't elixir 5 > 4 (combo, yay!) > swap make more sense? Why use shield skills in the rotation at all? Their damage is meh. Shouldn't they be kept safe for CC phases or blocks when needed?
Shield skills apply protection, without them you will not have perma protection, Using Elixir Gun 5 before 4 is smoother but if you use Elixir gun 4 every time its off cd it will be more might generation and higher dps
Thanks for the reply! Thanks to the build and video, I have successfully done W1-4 on Healmech today! That weapon swap cancel interaction is... kinda interesting.
Yes, something like Celestial Gear will work for extra dps, as long as you have enough Boon Duration to upkeep the Fury from the F3, otherwise you will have to swap Barrier Signet for Rifle Turret and take the "Experimental Turrets" trait, which means you can deal even more dps at the cost of barrier and some alac. There is a lot of stuff you can change in terms of gear or utilities to make variants but the build starts falling apart very fast when you remove more than 2 things honestly
I don't do Fractals that much anymore since EoD, I have been pugging some T4s, but dropping the Alacren would make breakbars slower in organized CMs, so I'm not sure It's better. It's not bad, safer and 100% playable, since not only you have more boons even without prestacking on the mistlock, but you also still have heals (can also go cele) I just don't think people will play it in realy good groups.
I run fractals near daily with a heal alac mech since the nerve. I used to run HB prior. For PUGs it seems to do better than current alacren and HB due to boon uptime and having essentially 4 dps. As Mela stated, breakbars can be an issue if other players don't slot CC in. Overall I personally prefer it to the old meta since all I do is PUGs and don't have a static
@@blakejones3124 How do you cover Vulnerability with that setup? Losing Alacrene really hurts in that aspect which would force very specific DPS to keep 25 stacks.
@@LeoGurr To be honest I haven't noticed much of a difference regarding the vulnerability loss. Some people have inherent vulnerability in their build and that helps some. Most encounters with this setup are safer (in PUGs) and I don't notice a time loss. I'm guessing having the extra DPS from a dedicated quickness build makes up for the vulnerability loss.
Excellent video, thank you. However, is step 2 useful for most strikes and raids? For what situation do you need step 3 over the others? Thanks for the help
@@MelaonTwitch Ah I see... however I guess the heal kit skill "1" is situational right? As there's no way you can use it since your mace "2" skill will be back and the rest of the cooldowns too. Skill 5 obviously is used I understand Thanks for the tips
@@tbone9474 Med Kit 1 is used if you really need healing beause people would be very close to being dead, other than that you never use it, even if your players are at around 60% health it will be better to give them barrier and waiting for heal skills like med kit 2 and 4 to be ready or fields like mortar kit 5 or Elixir gun 5
TY for the guide :) so my aoe cleanses are f2 and med kit 3. and some blasts inside elixer gun 5? is it ok to take the trait that condi cleanses on prot for condi heavy fights? also: how long can i delay f2 and f3 after the 1st time, without losing alac? (assuming the party is stacked)
Elixir gun 5 cleanses once it's placed down, and then it acts as a cleanse field, so you can blast it leap in it and shoot projectiles. You don't need F2 for alacrity at all, so after the first time, you use it off cool-down all the time or if you need Aegis for something you can save it for that. As for the trait, you could do that yes, but as of right now there's no fight that applies that many condis that it would make you wanna take that trait over the other one
Elixir Gun 4 has a shorter cooldown and using it before hand allows you to deal more dps overtime and also generate more Might, using it first mean you can use it again sooner rather than later, it's only something I would reccommend doing after being very used to the build. You only leave Elixir Gun 4 if you weapon swap too early, you have to wait a little after using the skill
Your guides are always quite pleasant to watch! If I were to replace a traitline in order to grant pinpoint distribution to my subgroup, which would it be between inventions and alchemy? Or is it even worth it to do this type of adjustment?
Thanks! I would say replace Alchemy if you have another Might source in your subgroup like maybe a quickness firebrand/ condi quickness harbinger (which should always be the case) but you will need to boon cap again since you lose a lot of concentration so you should play Concentration sigil. You can replace Inventions but your healing will be reduced a lot but if you don't need much heal and you can get away with just the barrier/regen and passive heals from the water fields or med kit skills usage, it should be ok.
quick question, is it possible providing enough alac without rely on mech skill F2? cuz sometimes my friends want me to provide stability through that skill. so if I save F2 for some situation, is alac ganna enough for the whole team?
It is yes, your F3 and mace autoattacks will provid a lot of alacrity lready, even more with barrier signet, you should be keeping F2 for Aegis or stab depending on the fights
Great guide, short and to the point! Regarding the Mech F2 - in fights with blockable attacks / phases that need stab - would it be more beneficial to use the skill reactively instead of spamming it off CD?
Some feedback on the guide. Whenever you want to create a guide video about something, always try to put in the why, where, who and when and the how on every segment of your explanations. Your guide is mostly about the "what" part and some "when", and sometimes the "how", but never the complete parts. This is just the basic of 5W1H of presentation. Hence why you see all the comments asking about the rest, because the guide is not clear enough and people are confused, especially newer players. For example, on 0:25, you explained that you start with Mech 2, 3, then Mace's Shield 4 and 5. That's the "when", the "how", and the "where", but you never explained the rest. "why" should we do that? to provide instant boons, sure, but what boons? "who" are these effects will/should be applied to? Then you to tell viewers to proceed with autoattacks, but you stopped explaining "why" you should do autoattacks, mech healers know why, but newer players won't. You also gone straight to mechanics or the "how" of the build, but never explained the very basics of your own video. What a "Boon Heal Mechanist" is, why should people play it, when should people play it, where should people play it. The only people who don't need these explanations are also the very people that probably won't need to see your video. So, who's the video for if you didn't include the basic information?
No, this is a tldr, if you want the full thing, read description of read your traits and skill by yourself. This is made for people that don't have time to watch a full guide.
You described literally my whole adventure with this class and following this build. Only on the second day of coming back to this video did I see the link in the description. Everything about your structure and the questions you asked are great criticism, but it makes me wish that you actually made this video instead of the person who did because holy, those were all the questions I was asking. I watched another old guide by vallum and he did it exactly how you mentioned and it made things click in my mind so much easier. Consider making a brief video for people like me, I would definitely appreciate your line of thinking and hand holding
you can take Magi for more Barrier and healing, but you want to have enough boon duration to make it so your regen is the one prioritized on players, and also have enough boon duration for the F3 to give Fury. In the case of a full teampcomp you can always drop some skills or gear piece of utilities, but this is the starting point of the build and what other builds should start from
Hiya. I copied another template I found a couple days ago. Same as yours, with the Harrier's/Monk armour, but the weapons/trinkets were Minstrel's. A little more healing, a little less Concentration, but adds a bit of toughness. I don't care a lot about the extra healing, the purpose of this build is boon uptime. Does it matter much if the weapons/trinkets are Minstrel's, or is full Harrier's the way to go? Thanks!
That's completely fine, but depending on the amount of toughness you have you will be tanking, also removing too much boon duration might make your fury uptime not 100% so be careful
Healbrand was only ever "good" in fractals, also that's also a source of quickness, this is for alacrity, if you think healbrand is better than everything this can do, I would love for you to tell me why that is.
Shield 4 (second part), elixir 4, and medkit 5 are all blast finishers so they can be combo'd off water fields (mortar 5, medkit 3) for burst healing or light field (elixir 5) for condi cleanse. The rotation opener uses shield 4 and elixir 4 without fields because you typically won't need these effects at the beginning of a fight. This can be helpful to slightly adjust a rotation for burst healing/cleanse, especially when moving to a new location in the fight with no fields on the ground.
True and real, I forgot to add blast finisher tips in the description, thanks for mentioning it
@@MelaonTwitch no problem, thanks for the video. Learned some good tips
@@DylanVinesett Same, I use 5 then 4, instead of 4 then 5, precisely because of the area cleanse. Even if I don't need it, it's important to keep the rotation up.
Yo,
This build is VERY STRONG and fairly new, make sure to look at the video description to find the build link and lots of extra information!
Share this with anyone that is interested in learning the build and let me know in the comments if you have any questions, I'm always reading and replying to all of them.
You should acknowledge the unique interaction that the mace has with everything else. For those who're unaware Mechanist allows for something I call Mace-weaving where you can have 1a->Skill->1b->Skill->1c without resetting the chain. This allows for incredible flexibility of playstyle where Crisis Zone can be used in a crisis to minimize it instead of it being a part of your rotation. This feels extremely good as you can use it to cover spots where your passive healing would otherwise have a hard time keeping up.
@AlatusU We have a new website coming out very soon, so the old one ( which is the one I linked to) is in a bit of CHAOS right now
@@nielsjensen4185 what is 1 a?
@@CandysChannel 1 attack
1 year later still one of the best guides. Thank you Mela and i'd love to see more of your content
Wow! Awesome guide, thanks man, i wouldn't know what to do without you :)
These short form guides are great and strongly preferred over your 1 hour long ones lol
It is worth noting that med kit 2 can be used on downstates to pick them back up but it requires good positioning.
I will add that in the description, I didnt add it because I'm pretty sure it will eventually be changed
it can but if you don't get all medkits to hit the downed target it's a waste of time and effort and you could have just ressed for more healing for that duration
For one second i missed all combo's and water/light - fields. But it is in the discription. Elixir gun Skill 4 is also a very good positioning skill ( without kit swap ) with shadow step, too. Elixir gun skill 3 is a nice condi remove. THX for your video. 2-3 new tipps i get it!
You just make the best, and maybe only real tutorials fot gw. Explaining how and why to use spells instead of giving us a list with buttons to press. Also I am not intrested in playing mech at the moment. I am making sure to post this im my guilds discord
Thank you man, means a lot ❤️
seems like a very overpowered build so that can only mean one thing..
nerf catalyst
Thanks Mela!
More rotation guide videos please :)
more soon!
Big mechanistic gaming.
Hey! Could you make a guide like this for condi renegade please?
Couple of questions about the build. I've been playing it for fractals, and I am wondering why elixir gun and mortality kit? Elixir gun seems to offer very little in the way of healing and I keep 25 might well without it. There are also a lot of solid options in place of it including various great CC options and shift signet to buff the mech. Elite mortar kit seems alright but the safety from the Overclock signet with maintaining mech uptime in case it dies seems too good to pass up for a small increase in dps. What am I missing with these skills because I see them on every build but don't understand why?
You can't keep 25 might by yourself without Elixir Gun and Mortar Kit, you probably have someone else cover it up for you, you can generate 18 without those 2 kits, a the golem will slowly get you to 22 but you will never reach 25, unless you use something like the mistlock to precast, but that would still mean that in split phases or during any kind of downtime you will not be at 25.
the build already has shift signet. you should either replace it first or maybe barrier signet, never egun
egun 5 heals a lot and traited it's like 12s every 14s, huge uptime! mortar 5 also provides good healing. between super elixir ticks, regen and barrier, people are getting constantly topped up. then you can burst heal with mortar5
both are an important source of might, like mela already explained. even if you were to cap might without them, they're still very good healing
Indeed. VERY strong build and fairly simple to play. As a TRUE support, the res capability isnt huge, but I doubt many will go down!
Id love to try a mercy rune version potentially!
Thanks bud!
I'm sorry, pretty noob in the strike/raid/fractal realm, so how do I understand these steps?
I do step 1 and then watch my cooldown on f2 and f3 until rdy and then do step 2 and then step 3. Then when f2 and f3 are rdy ill restart with step 1.
I'm new in this world but would like to be alle to deliver something usefull for my group 🙂
Start doing step 1, then add step 2 and continue until you're doing all of them correctly
any updates on this, including the full build?
Everything is in the description
@@MelaonTwitch "404, nothing found" in the full build line
@@Finn1e Our site urls changed, sorry about that, it's actually fixed now
@@MelaonTwitch thanks, man. keep delivering good content!
Why elixir 4 > cancel > elixir 5? Doesn't elixir 5 > 4 (combo, yay!) > swap make more sense?
Why use shield skills in the rotation at all? Their damage is meh. Shouldn't they be kept safe for CC phases or blocks when needed?
Shield skills apply protection, without them you will not have perma protection, Using Elixir Gun 5 before 4 is smoother but if you use Elixir gun 4 every time its off cd it will be more might generation and higher dps
Thanks for the reply!
Thanks to the build and video, I have successfully done W1-4 on Healmech today! That weapon swap cancel interaction is... kinda interesting.
is there a update rotation on august , or stay the same
It's the same!
Would a celestial version make sense (for dmg increase)?
Yes, something like Celestial Gear will work for extra dps, as long as you have enough Boon Duration to upkeep the Fury from the F3, otherwise you will have to swap Barrier Signet for Rifle Turret and take the "Experimental Turrets" trait, which means you can deal even more dps at the cost of barrier and some alac.
There is a lot of stuff you can change in terms of gear or utilities to make variants but the build starts falling apart very fast when you remove more than 2 things honestly
What do you think of Heal Mech + CQB instead of HB + AlacRen for fractals? Is it safer/better?
I don't do Fractals that much anymore since EoD, I have been pugging some T4s, but dropping the Alacren would make breakbars slower in organized CMs, so I'm not sure It's better. It's not bad, safer and 100% playable, since not only you have more boons even without prestacking on the mistlock, but you also still have heals (can also go cele) I just don't think people will play it in realy good groups.
I run fractals near daily with a heal alac mech since the nerve. I used to run HB prior. For PUGs it seems to do better than current alacren and HB due to boon uptime and having essentially 4 dps. As Mela stated, breakbars can be an issue if other players don't slot CC in. Overall I personally prefer it to the old meta since all I do is PUGs and don't have a static
@@blakejones3124 How do you cover Vulnerability with that setup? Losing Alacrene really hurts in that aspect which would force very specific DPS to keep 25 stacks.
@@LeoGurr To be honest I haven't noticed much of a difference regarding the vulnerability loss. Some people have inherent vulnerability in their build and that helps some. Most encounters with this setup are safer (in PUGs) and I don't notice a time loss. I'm guessing having the extra DPS from a dedicated quickness build makes up for the vulnerability loss.
Excellent video, thank you. However, is step 2 useful for most strikes and raids? For what situation do you need step 3 over the others? Thanks for the help
You need all the steps, this isn't about which one is better, it's about working your way from 1 to 3 to be able to do everything during a fight
@@MelaonTwitch Ah I see... however I guess the heal kit skill "1" is situational right? As there's no way you can use it since your mace "2" skill will be back and the rest of the cooldowns too. Skill 5 obviously is used I understand
Thanks for the tips
@@tbone9474 Med Kit 1 is used if you really need healing beause people would be very close to being dead, other than that you never use it, even if your players are at around 60% health it will be better to give them barrier and waiting for heal skills like med kit 2 and 4 to be ready or fields like mortar kit 5 or Elixir gun 5
@@MelaonTwitch right thank you. This makes more sense :)
TY for the guide :)
so my aoe cleanses are f2 and med kit 3. and some blasts inside elixer gun 5? is it ok to take the trait that condi cleanses on prot for condi heavy fights?
also: how long can i delay f2 and f3 after the 1st time, without losing alac? (assuming the party is stacked)
Elixir gun 5 cleanses once it's placed down, and then it acts as a cleanse field, so you can blast it leap in it and shoot projectiles.
You don't need F2 for alacrity at all, so after the first time, you use it off cool-down all the time or if you need Aegis for something you can save it for that.
As for the trait, you could do that yes, but as of right now there's no fight that applies that many condis that it would make you wanna take that trait over the other one
@@MelaonTwitchthx :)
Very good Build^^
But, i don't understand how you become "Quickness"? ^^
what do you mean with become quickness?
Unga bunga press keys, let golem carry - the spec
Im a noob why is elixir 4 needed before elixir 5? Is it intentional to be out of elixir gun when you cancel the elixir 4 skill ?
Elixir Gun 4 has a shorter cooldown and using it before hand allows you to deal more dps overtime and also generate more Might, using it first mean you can use it again sooner rather than later, it's only something I would reccommend doing after being very used to the build. You only leave Elixir Gun 4 if you weapon swap too early, you have to wait a little after using the skill
Your guides are always quite pleasant to watch! If I were to replace a traitline in order to grant pinpoint distribution to my subgroup, which would it be between inventions and alchemy? Or is it even worth it to do this type of adjustment?
Thanks! I would say replace Alchemy if you have another Might source in your subgroup like maybe a quickness firebrand/ condi quickness harbinger (which should always be the case) but you will need to boon cap again since you lose a lot of concentration so you should play Concentration sigil. You can replace Inventions but your healing will be reduced a lot but if you don't need much heal and you can get away with just the barrier/regen and passive heals from the water fields or med kit skills usage, it should be ok.
How do you guage how well you are doing?
Just be doing what you need to be doing, like any other class
quick question, is it possible providing enough alac without rely on mech skill F2? cuz sometimes my friends want me to provide stability through that skill. so if I save F2 for some situation, is alac ganna enough for the whole team?
It is yes, your F3 and mace autoattacks will provid a lot of alacrity lready, even more with barrier signet, you should be keeping F2 for Aegis or stab depending on the fights
@@MelaonTwitch Thanks a lot!!
Great guide, short and to the point! Regarding the Mech F2 - in fights with blockable attacks / phases that need stab - would it be more beneficial to use the skill reactively instead of spamming it off CD?
If what you need is Aegis yes, if what you need is stability, use it off cd since the stab is permanent
Some feedback on the guide. Whenever you want to create a guide video about something, always try to put in the why, where, who and when and the how on every segment of your explanations. Your guide is mostly about the "what" part and some "when", and sometimes the "how", but never the complete parts. This is just the basic of 5W1H of presentation. Hence why you see all the comments asking about the rest, because the guide is not clear enough and people are confused, especially newer players.
For example, on 0:25, you explained that you start with Mech 2, 3, then Mace's Shield 4 and 5. That's the "when", the "how", and the "where", but you never explained the rest. "why" should we do that? to provide instant boons, sure, but what boons? "who" are these effects will/should be applied to? Then you to tell viewers to proceed with autoattacks, but you stopped explaining "why" you should do autoattacks, mech healers know why, but newer players won't.
You also gone straight to mechanics or the "how" of the build, but never explained the very basics of your own video. What a "Boon Heal Mechanist" is, why should people play it, when should people play it, where should people play it. The only people who don't need these explanations are also the very people that probably won't need to see your video. So, who's the video for if you didn't include the basic information?
No, this is a tldr, if you want the full thing, read description of read your traits and skill by yourself.
This is made for people that don't have time to watch a full guide.
You described literally my whole adventure with this class and following this build. Only on the second day of coming back to this video did I see the link in the description. Everything about your structure and the questions you asked are great criticism, but it makes me wish that you actually made this video instead of the person who did because holy, those were all the questions I was asking. I watched another old guide by vallum and he did it exactly how you mentioned and it made things click in my mind so much easier. Consider making a brief video for people like me, I would definitely appreciate your line of thinking and hand holding
Not beter take magi gear insted of harrier, and quicknes/might support for you qfb/qharbringer? you only need 50% boon dura that way
you can take Magi for more Barrier and healing, but you want to have enough boon duration to make it so your regen is the one prioritized on players, and also have enough boon duration for the F3 to give Fury.
In the case of a full teampcomp you can always drop some skills or gear piece of utilities, but this is the starting point of the build and what other builds should start from
@@MelaonTwitch qfb provid fury+quickness+12might+aegis+x3 stab, and it's perfect duo to consider build optimization
@@albertosalazar5442 yes but you wont always have 1, so there is no point in making the baseline build based around it
@@MelaonTwitch kk ty for reply
Hiya. I copied another template I found a couple days ago. Same as yours, with the Harrier's/Monk armour, but the weapons/trinkets were Minstrel's. A little more healing, a little less Concentration, but adds a bit of toughness. I don't care a lot about the extra healing, the purpose of this build is boon uptime. Does it matter much if the weapons/trinkets are Minstrel's, or is full Harrier's the way to go? Thanks!
That's completely fine, but depending on the amount of toughness you have you will be tanking, also removing too much boon duration might make your fury uptime not 100% so be careful
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HB is way better…
Healbrand was only ever "good" in fractals, also that's also a source of quickness, this is for alacrity, if you think healbrand is better than everything this can do, I would love for you to tell me why that is.