Santa: "Ho ho ho, so what do you want for Christmas?" Kid: "I want Beats headphones." Santa: "Beats? If you want a highly exaggerated low end, an insult to the Harman target response curve, and no clarity in the higher frequencies, then go ahead, get some Beats." Kid: "Who is Harman?" Santa: "It's complicated. Listen, if you want to hear some great headphones, either a modified HD800 or the new HD800s would do it. Now, if planar magnetic is your thing, try the Audeze LCD-2." Kid: "Mommy, this Santa is weird."
amse9297 hd800 is shit. Maybe worse than beats when listen music. lcd are awesome. beyerdynamic dt880 is great. Ether flow and he1000v2 are awesome. Stay away hd800 it is a bigger insult of hifi.
I really miss Tyll, and I very much miss my old ER-4Ps as well. So coming across this video has been a welcome double shot of nostalgia and useful information (as was always the case). I hope you're having a great time on the road with your ukulele, Tyll!
Bought the ER4P back in 2011, and I’m back on this video because they finally broke after 14 years. In that time they’ve been used regularly and have been on every flight I’ve been on. Truly grateful for them and looking for a long lasting replacement! (Snapped before the 2 pin connector)
ER-4's have been my in ear road warriors for many years. Great for use on airplanes without having to deal with noise cancelling. I used them with the original Headroom amp, which I still have.
Miss your videos dude. I hope you are having fun. We spent some time together at RMAF 2014 after Todd got the room Sunday pm. Enjoyed your company. Take care man. Cheers.
The irony is I’m listening to this through my original ER4S….yes the red and blue. I recently left my set of customs and an Audioquest Dragonfly on a flight. Sooo I dug out my Etymotics and decided to buy the Helm DB12 AAAMP to power. WOW! The DB12 wipes the floor with the Dragonfly. I’ve never my ER4S sound so dynamic!
Hi kyle, i'm Mayank (from India), love your videos and your voice, been a long time sub of you channel(It's like 40 Million subscribers short :) Love if you could give a test to Sennheiser's CX275 s and KZ ATE ,had a quest from long time to find good(fine) sounding earphones @ very low costs. and i think i've found these two.I know you don't like cheap stuff but, i'd just love to hear from you on these, it'll be just a few bucks. BTW have you tried the new Orpheus (HE 1)? Thanks love - please continue making videos. They're of great help and your website as well. I love the wall of fame (You are just the Boss). Have a good One.....:)
So theyre not "better" than the SE535? I am just going to buy new ones and I was considering the Shures as I saw them in your HoF. But I noticed you never did a video review for them. Would you still gonna do one? :) kinda as a re-review a few years later. Would be interesting to know your opinion on those today, and compared to a lot of others your probably heard in the last couple a years. Would appreciate it! Cheers :)
you may love the er3xr. it has at least the same bass as the er4xr but with a slightly lower treble tilt past 2khz. it is very pleasing... don't let the lower price fool you...
They compare very, very well. You have yourself an excellent earphone there. It is the most bassy of the models, but that is a very personal preference as to whether you would think the others are better or worse. The overall "quality" is very similar between them and the price is excellent! I'm making a review as we speak on my channel soon.
Hi, thanks for your review, anyway I am a mixing engineer, and have the best speakers but I want a headphone/earbud reference and to be honest seems all headphones are so hyped in the highend and lowend and bad detail in the mid-range ...very unbalanced freq wise ,,,so which model of the Etymotic do you consider the flatest in freq response
Hi! Can you do a review and comparison of the Amazonbasics on-ear and over-ear headphone models? Both seem really good and affordable, and I wanted to know what you think about them.
I love your child always watch your reviews do you have any reviews on The Campfire audio line and if not please try to get a hold of them would love to see your interpretation of it
Hey I just lost my AKG K3003i's. I can't afford it anymore, and I still want to buy something sounds really good. Do you think Etymotic ER4XR would be a good replacement? Or what do you think I could buy?
i know this is an old post, Ty dosnt do youtube anymore, anyway, i have the ER3XR and love them, great sound, genuinely love them, if you have used ety's before, dont be afraid to buy a set, the 3 and 4 are near identical and the cables are swappable, you can get the er4 balanced cable and use it on any set of modern ety mid-high end sets ;)
I'm struggling to decide which one I want to get. Maybe the best way I can describe it is that I want a bass response similar to my HD600. To me, it sounds very natural and it's just how I like it. In that case, would I want the XR?
Hi-Fi Insider Sadly most earphones out there can't produce 13k right. It is useless to support 30 50k when they have shit response above 10k. Seriously.
OriginalMindTrick Er4 has the best frequency response between 20hz and 16khz of all earphones and one of the best in the whole earphones headphones world. Have you ever test er4s/b sr by yourself for the frequency test? I bet you can hear 17k without zero problem. I can hear 21khz out of it. Hd800 wise I know it sounds ok on vocal and classic music. It had one of the best low to mid accuracy(yeah this is true). But the 6k peak is unbearable when listen to metal, electronic even some pop music. The problem is definitely there. You can't just ignore it by listen to some genres. Once i hear it i can't not hear it .you know?
They're very comfortable after a day or two of getting use to them, after that all other IEMs sound wrong due to the sound that gets in. You can also get rubber ends which are shallow insertion but this kind of widens the image with some strange affects. Foam ends are ok but give more warmth. I prefer the triple flange silicon tips with the DEEP insertion. I've been using the Etymotic ER4PT for over 4 - 5 years now.
Pradyumn Vij How does the isolation of the triple flange compare to the foam tips? I am having trouble getting a deep fit with the triple flanges. Also, do you get that occlusion effect when using triple flanges?
josh Subet the noise isolation is at its peak with silicone tips, as foam can still let some sound through depending on how much it decomposes, however in my ear the Etymotic foam tips had very good isolation, however with a slight change to sound character.
Santa: "Ho ho ho, so what do you want for Christmas?"
Kid: "I want Beats headphones."
Santa: "Beats? If you want a highly exaggerated low end, an insult to the Harman target response curve, and no clarity in the higher frequencies, then go ahead, get some Beats."
Kid: "Who is Harman?"
Santa: "It's complicated. Listen, if you want to hear some great headphones, either a modified HD800 or the new HD800s would do it. Now, if planar magnetic is your thing, try the Audeze LCD-2."
Kid: "Mommy, this Santa is weird."
How can a kid who believes in Santa can afford the HD 800 and Audeze headphones?
amse9297 hd800 is shit. Maybe worse than beats when listen music. lcd are awesome. beyerdynamic dt880 is great. Ether flow and he1000v2 are awesome. Stay away hd800 it is a bigger insult of hifi.
Have you listened to classical music with the HD800? It can be a tremendous musical experience.
"HD800 is shit"
one of the widest, If not the widest soundstage, Nicest sound signature, Fastest dynamic drivers, and best imaging is shit
hmmmmmm
What? HD800 worse than Beats? DT880 is great? DT880 is far from neutral. You need to get a new pair of ears.
Santa: And what do you want for christmas?
Kid: Beats studios
Santa:...
Kid: Santa why are you crying?
I really miss Tyll, and I very much miss my old ER-4Ps as well. So coming across this video has been a welcome double shot of nostalgia and useful information (as was always the case). I hope you're having a great time on the road with your ukulele, Tyll!
Bought the ER4P back in 2011, and I’m back on this video because they finally broke after 14 years. In that time they’ve been used regularly and have been on every flight I’ve been on. Truly grateful for them and looking for a long lasting replacement!
(Snapped before the 2 pin connector)
Always loved a laid back sound.. Gonna try em, i've been hearing good things on etymotics for more than a decade
ER-4's have been my in ear road warriors for many years. Great for use on airplanes without having to deal with noise cancelling. I used them with the original Headroom amp, which I still have.
Miss Tyl's reviews. Want to get my hands on these now.
Yah true, and i would love to see some ety reviews from you l. Very curious to see how the er2 se/xr stack up with moondrop arya/ starfield
How wow you're the HeadRoom guy?! Loved that.
Tyll i used other tips. And the soundstage is competitive to hd800 i also used moon430ha as headphones amp and hugo tt as dac.
12:30 I get complete isolation with my audiophile space helmet & space suit.
This was a great review. It explained everything I needed to know.
Miss your videos dude. I hope you are having fun. We spent some time together at RMAF 2014 after Todd got the room Sunday pm. Enjoyed your company. Take care man. Cheers.
noooooo the beard was so beautiful!! I thought resistors made the sound more warm not brighter, filtering the higher frequencies.
The irony is I’m listening to this through my original ER4S….yes the red and blue. I recently left my set of customs and an Audioquest Dragonfly on a flight. Sooo I dug out my Etymotics and decided to buy the Helm DB12 AAAMP to power. WOW! The DB12 wipes the floor with the Dragonfly. I’ve never my ER4S sound so dynamic!
First time watching an inner fidelity Video. Great details , Great review. Thanks.
Pretty neat what can be done with a $7 BA driver. 😎
Starts at 14:41
Great review Sr.
Thank you for another very interesting and informative video
I think the sr sounds way better than xr. And none of them is better than er4b. I love er4b so much.
Indeed, ER4B still my favorite. Are you using red filters? I think w/ stock filters the treble peaks are a bit too much for my taste.
No1Knows IF you have really good amp then green is fine. I have used red even orange for extended period of time i can say er4b is the best!!!
Hey john plz suggest me best earbuds under 100dollars
@@nomanmahota9372 er2s
I have to give Santa Claus a "Thumbs Up"...
Santa!
I really enjoy your videos. Any plans to review the B&W P9's?
Imagine if you have your kids the opportunity to ask Tyll what they'd like for Christmas. My mind would be blown.
Hey Santa can you get me a set of Focal Elears. I have been really good this year.
About the ER3XR ?
Very similar performance but warmer\darker ever so slightly. They actually beat full size dynamics of up to $300 in terms of technicalities.
Hi kyle, i'm Mayank (from India), love your videos and your voice, been a long time sub of you channel(It's like 40 Million subscribers short :)
Love if you could give a test to Sennheiser's CX275 s and KZ ATE ,had a quest from long time to find good(fine) sounding earphones @ very low costs. and i think i've found these two.I know you don't like cheap stuff but, i'd just love to hear from you on these, it'll be just a few bucks.
BTW have you tried the new Orpheus (HE 1)?
Thanks love - please continue making videos. They're of great help and your website as well.
I love the wall of fame (You are just the Boss).
Have a good One.....:)
So theyre not "better" than the SE535? I am just going to buy new ones and I was considering the Shures as I saw them in your HoF. But I noticed you never did a video review for them. Would you still gonna do one? :) kinda as a re-review a few years later. Would be interesting to know your opinion on those today, and compared to a lot of others your probably heard in the last couple a years.
Would appreciate it! Cheers :)
NighteeeY They are ten times better. They are even better than 846.
NighteeeY The sound of er4sr and er4b(when drived to max) are comparable to any headphones around 1 to 2 grand.
John Yang Are you talking about the SE535 or the etymotics?
The Echelon er4 is better than 535 all the way
John Yang Ok, thanks. I'll have to listen to them eventually myself of course.
Fuck the trolls. Keep up the good work Tyll! The beard looks awesome as always.
Please try shure olive tips with er4sr.
The best headphone reviewer on the internet. Met in person at CanJam in Chicago years ago. Hope you're doing great, Tyll!
Hi tyll you should try comply ts100 smal size with it.
Prefer the silicon over comply for Etymotics, the comply adds undue warmth.
Pradyumn Vij But what if you use er4sr or er4b? It works like charm my friend.
the design of it makes it so weird to put it around your ear, looks like it's straining the joint where the cable meets the iem
I've been using ER4P for over 10 years and I've never once worn them like this. Always let them hang normally and then clip it to your shirt.
Do you think these block out more sound than active noise cancelling headphones or active noise cancelling iems? For long flights?
Audiognome haven't tried for a flight. But it's fairly close to anc. I have the Sony headphones xm3 . I didn't a/b test them 😂
They isolate better than anc in most cases. Most anc headphones do about 20 dB of isolation. ER4s can give 40 dB isolation.
Does it mean ER4 bettter than ER2 or ER3? Thank you
Any opinions on the Etymotic ER3SE?? I want a good monitor for plug and play. At $179 it's looking good
NM no opinions
you may love the er3xr. it has at least the same bass as the er4xr but with a slightly lower treble tilt past 2khz. it is very pleasing... don't let the lower price fool you...
Sean DEntremont
I received mine and I'm using them right now (ER3XR) how exactly do you think they compare? :)
They compare very, very well. You have yourself an excellent earphone there. It is the most bassy of the models, but that is a very personal preference as to whether you would think the others are better or worse. The overall "quality" is very similar between them and the price is excellent! I'm making a review as we speak on my channel soon.
How long till we get the review
I already recorded a video review. need to edit it but I got sick for literally two weeks. hopefully very soon.
Sean DEntremont thank yoh
Hi, thanks for your review, anyway I am a mixing engineer, and have the best speakers but I want a headphone/earbud reference and to be honest seems all headphones are so hyped in the highend and lowend and bad detail in the mid-range ...very unbalanced freq wise ,,,so which model of the Etymotic do you consider the flatest in freq response
That would definitely be the ER4SR.
Hi!
Can you do a review and comparison of the Amazonbasics on-ear and over-ear headphone models? Both seem really good and affordable, and I wanted to know what you think about them.
I love your child always watch your reviews do you have any reviews on The Campfire audio line and if not please try to get a hold of them would love to see your interpretation of it
Mids?
how does er4xr compare to final audio f4100?
Perfect looking beard now! Keep it
Hey I just lost my AKG K3003i's. I can't afford it anymore, and I still want to buy something sounds really good. Do you think Etymotic ER4XR would be a good replacement? Or what do you think I could buy?
i know this is an old post, Ty dosnt do youtube anymore, anyway, i have the ER3XR and love them, great sound, genuinely love them, if you have used ety's before, dont be afraid to buy a set, the 3 and 4 are near identical and the cables are swappable, you can get the er4 balanced cable and use it on any set of modern ety mid-high end sets ;)
Am I the only one who reads ER4SR as ERASER?
Erasing all that coloration
You look like urban remo on TH-cam
You look better with a beard anyway ! I will only watch bearded reviews, youre asking too much of me otherwise
I'm struggling to decide which one I want to get. Maybe the best way I can describe it is that I want a bass response similar to my HD600. To me, it sounds very natural and it's just how I like it. In that case, would I want the XR?
The XR is pretty close to the HD 600 in bass, it has better sub-bass extension too.
Would this be superior to the Sony 7506 as far as mixing my music on-the-go when traveling exc?
Foam tips cancel more self voice.
Acoustically treated beard hehe
I found etymolic headphones to have very little bass
these are not ideal for hi-res audio because their fq response is limited to 16kHz. I liked the sound of XR more as well.
Hi-Fi Insider Sadly most earphones out there can't produce 13k right. It is useless to support 30 50k when they have shit response above 10k. Seriously.
Hi-Fi Insider And according to other headphones earphones standard. old er4 support 19k at least and new er4 support more than 20k.
Hi-Fi Insider Etymotic standard is super strict. Non of other earphones have the same quality in terms of frequency response.
My hearing went up to 17 kHz last time I checked. I'm not afraid if I'm missing something that I can't hear in the first place.
OriginalMindTrick Er4 has the best frequency response between 20hz and 16khz of all earphones and one of the best in the whole earphones headphones world. Have you ever test er4s/b sr by yourself for the frequency test? I bet you can hear 17k without zero problem. I can hear 21khz out of it.
Hd800 wise I know it sounds ok on vocal and classic music. It had one of the best low to mid accuracy(yeah this is true). But the 6k peak is unbearable when listen to metal, electronic even some pop music. The problem is definitely there. You can't just ignore it by listen to some genres. Once i hear it i can't not hear it .you know?
I feel pain everytime I see Etymotics, look so dang uncomfortable.
I know! But i never tried them so i wonder how they are.
it's worth the pain
They're very comfortable after a day or two of getting use to them, after that all other IEMs sound wrong due to the sound that gets in.
You can also get rubber ends which are shallow insertion but this kind of widens the image with some strange affects. Foam ends are ok but give more warmth. I prefer the triple flange silicon tips with the DEEP insertion.
I've been using the Etymotic ER4PT for over 4 - 5 years now.
Pradyumn Vij
How does the isolation of the triple flange compare to the foam tips? I am having trouble getting a deep fit with the triple flanges. Also, do you get that occlusion effect when using triple flanges?
josh Subet the noise isolation is at its peak with silicone tips, as foam can still let some sound through depending on how much it decomposes, however in my ear the Etymotic foam tips had very good isolation, however with a slight change to sound character.
TURN YOUR FUCKING ALARM OFF
Video is too long ,we just want to know simple differences ,not the whole history of the product line .