I really love how Arthur is looked up as a mentor and a brother figure towards John Marston. RDR2 really shows how John was before and what made him the way he is in the first Red Dead and Arthur Morgan really impacted John’s character
I remember at the beginning of RDR2 when John is missing and Abigail asks Arthur to look for him, Hosea then urges Javier to go with him, to which Javier says something along the lines of “If I was in his shoes, John would go out to look for me” he was right John did go out and look for him, in a different way
@@MrOgge50 well you did imply that a bit, "looking out" can be both positive and negative, I just don't think it was actually foreshadowing in all fairness
@John Briar You call me a tick in the head when it’s you putting words in my mouth, I know what I meant to say and there isn’t a lot you can say about that. Just accept it
9:58 Arthur really didn’t ask many favors of anyone throughout the story. He was usually fulfilling others happiness no matter how rough he could be with himself and others. In the end he only had one request, for John to leave and live a good life.
@@Philips_27 He was just doing what Arthur did for him, in the end. I think John felt quite guilty for Arthur’s death in a way, and you can tell by the strong reluctance he had to leave him. But he also respected Arthur enough to fulfill HIS final wish because Arthur was arguably a way better father figure than Dutch ever was. John Marston did what he could, but his unfortunate past from quite a young age caught up with him. He still fought for what was right in the end because that’s what Arthur would do.
I kinda don’t get it. Like why couldn’t they just move away from the wagon to light it? Never quite understood that part. Was looking for a comment ab it
@@ct737 Dynamite especially back then was incredibly volatile, and while yeah this scene was just for comedic effect, if the burning ash of a cigarette made its way into the wrong place, the dynamite would've blown both John and Arthur to kingdom come. After all, they were carrying enough to blow up an entire bridge
@@QuestionableSprite American Venom is brilliant because it links the lonely western style RDR1 music to the grander and more epic music of RDR2. It represents the transition between Athurs story and Johns story.
"Arthur...you're my brother." That line feel like a punch in the gut. John sees Arthur doing all he can for him, and realizes if anyone in the game is truly family it's them. Arthur is literally sacrificing himself to give John a better life, and John has to accept it and move forward. Never could a man be more grateful than John taking the opportunity given him by Arthur. Such a tragic but beautiful story.
Every Arthur if a youtuber played story mode: Long Beard Underweight Long Hair did 1% of side missions Never takes a bath Does not care about their cores
At the beginning of the game, Arthur talks about how John left the gang for a year and said something like "He kept riding and never looked back." By the end, that's all Arthur wanted John to do: ride and never look back.
I played rdr2 before every playing rdr1 and John was always my favorite character besides Arthur. I didn’t find out John was the protagonist in rdr1 until I beat the main story, shit blew my mind
@@laurene988 yes but that dude is as strong as a bull. in one of the camp interactions he picked up micah and through him to the ground and made it look easy
In 1899, in the far North, Javier Escuella went searching for John Marston, and when he found him, he slung him over his shoulder and carried him away. 12 years later, in the far South, John Marston went searching for Javier Escuella, and when he found him, he slung him over his shoulder and carried him away.
The parallels are amazing. Both Arthur and Uncle mock John for trying to seem mysterious but, as they say, comes of like an idiot. The twins at Clements Cove basically give the same spiel Hosea gave with Arthur when they're handing out Moonshine in Rhodes.
@@tylore944 John and Arthur were very close, John saw him as his older brother and looked up to him a lot, Arthur and John knew each other for 15 years, so him wearing Arthur's hat and never stopping to wear it makes all the more sense since he knows Arthur sacrificed his life so John and his family can live a life, John also feels guilty of not saving Arthur when he saved him.
@@Vanerov John is his own man he ain’t going to reminisce every 5 seconds on Arthur and bring him up every chance he gets yeah if they did remake rdr they should mention him once or twice but that’s it.
@@tylore944 I never said he was gonna obsess with him or talk about him all the time, Arthur and John knew each other for 15 years, they aren't just mere acquaintances, John sees him as an older brother and an inspiration.
@@Vanerov but he isn’t going to talk about the past all the time he dislikes doing so he just want to move on with his life. Heheh well he did want to move on with his life.
Ok so imagine if someone uploaded a video called "Every Arthur Morgan/John Marston appearance in RDR2" and its just a full playthrough from prologue through epilogue
I remember playing RDR2 and disliking John Marston for a while. But eventually, I began to see him as a brother as well, and when Dutch claimed John died on the train, I actually said out loud, "JOHN, NO!" It's amazing how Rockstar made the player connect with the characters as well, and I am still struggling to get how in the world I was able to start liking and loving John.
Sad to think people don’t think Jon fulfilled his promise to Arther by the end of rdr1.. He undoubtedly saved his family and kept their flames carrying on (Arthur and John) through Jack. Neither Arthur nor John failed they lived their dreams and saved everyone who was close to them while righting their wrongs. Two of the greatest characters in American fiction period..
9:28 hands down the best cutscene in the game, it's wholesome and bittersweet to see these two seeing one another for the last time "You're my brother." "I know...i know."
If you haven't gone to the incest pig farm before Arthur goes on his final ride. Drink the spiked shot from the sister when she offers it to you, when Arthur wakes up he'll be robbed of all his money- Normally you would ride back to the farm and kill the pair to take your money from the safe behind the portrait, but if you leave it will stay there. When you come back as John though continue the mission and kill the siblings to take your money back.
my john and arthur always have to have a certain look, arthur’s beard at 3 and his hair at 4 (original ones) johns hair at 6 and beard at 4 (original ones)
I think my favorite is when john is trying to get Arthur to do the oil first mission thingy and its sucha. Brotherly thing to simplw say that half of his brains gotten eat by wolfs and then get smarter
see i love both of them but i like john a bit more dont get me wrong i cried when arthur died but there is just something about john like i like his elegance more than arthurs brawns and just the whole arc of john building a small army to take down the fort and running around mexico defeating the army and the rebels single handedly and john just comes of as this deadly gunslinger where arthur comes of as a rough and tumble brawler personally i think john is more of a badass not to say arthur not a badass and john is the centre of the franchise if u think about it arthur was just a tool to tell johns story well that and coz rdr1 just feels like a proper spaghetti western where as rdr2 feels like a game that takes place in the early 800s
The John missions were the best in chapter 6 because the others missions you are among "friends" you can no longer trust. John is like family to Arthur
Here's what I don't get, Arthur keeps telling John to leave the gang for his safety and the safety of his family, BUT aren't they earning money precisely so they can disappear and be safe? But if that's not necessary, why don't they just all go the way of John and disappear right away?
Because they would be running away as a gang, each time they get more money they get in more trouble and higher chance of getting killed. Arthur wanted him to leave that life behind and start a new one as a regular man
@@DieHardRedemption That’s what their wikis say. But look at concept art and them standing side by side in the game. Arthur is always about a half inch shorter.
5:20 will forever be my favorite part of this game. The immediate realization and then back to talking like they didn't almost blow themselves up.
crazy how john sounds younger even though in actuality he's older than when he did voice acting for the original
Yeah it’s pretty strange.
Well, not by too much. It was said the did the mo cap and voice acting starting in 2013 or at least that is when they started working on the game.
@iZapSense Lol
Rob talked about that in an interview and he said that "John's high pitched voice in rdr2" is not intentionally
To me, the little brother sounded older than the big brother in this game. I'm not talking about the pitch, but rather the base.
I really love how Arthur is looked up as a mentor and a brother figure towards John Marston. RDR2 really shows how John was before and what made him the way he is in the first Red Dead and Arthur Morgan really impacted John’s character
2 years later I’m sure you know this by now, but Arthur was just his brother not any kind of a mentor
@@user-hx6gs9rq7uyeah, and I’m pretty sure John literally calls Dutch his mentor in a mission too
You guys do know you can have multiple mentors right?
I remember at the beginning of RDR2 when John is missing and Abigail asks Arthur to look for him, Hosea then urges Javier to go with him, to which Javier says something along the lines of “If I was in his shoes, John would go out to look for me” he was right John did go out and look for him, in a different way
Javier didn't really betray John, he just had too much faith in Dutch pretty much both games show that
@@Medroizz sorry I’m not following, did I say that?
@@MrOgge50 well you did imply that a bit, "looking out" can be both positive and negative, I just don't think it was actually foreshadowing in all fairness
@@Medroizz No I didn’t say that. I said “Look for” as in searching for someone, not “look out” as in take care of someone, very different things
@John Briar You call me a tick in the head when it’s you putting words in my mouth, I know what I meant to say and there isn’t a lot you can say about that. Just accept it
9:58
Arthur really didn’t ask many favors of anyone throughout the story. He was usually fulfilling others happiness no matter how rough he could be with himself and others. In the end he only had one request, for John to leave and live a good life.
And it’s sad seeing John die at the end by the government cause of his past
And John can't even do that favor properly...
@@Philips_27 He was just doing what Arthur did for him, in the end. I think John felt quite guilty for Arthur’s death in a way, and you can tell by the strong reluctance he had to leave him. But he also respected Arthur enough to fulfill HIS final wish because Arthur was arguably a way better father figure than Dutch ever was. John Marston did what he could, but his unfortunate past from quite a young age caught up with him. He still fought for what was right in the end because that’s what Arthur would do.
@@dd-hp5oj older brother figure more so.
@@dd-hp5oj more of a brother
5:20 perfect
that was so funny 😂
They like: dynamite o shiet
It’s a small thing but it adds to them both and feels like a moment from RDR1.
I kinda don’t get it. Like why couldn’t they just move away from the wagon to light it? Never quite understood that part. Was looking for a comment ab it
@@ct737 Dynamite especially back then was incredibly volatile, and while yeah this scene was just for comedic effect, if the burning ash of a cigarette made its way into the wrong place, the dynamite would've blown both John and Arthur to kingdom come.
After all, they were carrying enough to blow up an entire bridge
0:40 i like how the RDR1 theme played when John first appeared on screen.
That was really good when i heard it for the first time cuz i just finished rdr1 before 2 came out
It even sounds like american venom a bit
@@QuestionableSprite even the trumpet part reminds me of Mexico.
@@QuestionableSprite you do know AV is a rdr2 modified red dead 1 theme
@@QuestionableSprite American Venom is brilliant because it links the lonely western style RDR1 music to the grander and more epic music of RDR2. It represents the transition between Athurs story and Johns story.
"Arthur...you're my brother." That line feel like a punch in the gut. John sees Arthur doing all he can for him, and realizes if anyone in the game is truly family it's them. Arthur is literally sacrificing himself to give John a better life, and John has to accept it and move forward. Never could a man be more grateful than John taking the opportunity given him by Arthur. Such a tragic but beautiful story.
0:40 Gives me chills every single time. Such a strong but subtle nod of acknowledgment to the masterpiece that was RDR1.
Everything about it is so perfect
Only 10 minutes of screen time but it feels like 50 minutes. Shows how impactful John and Arthur are
True, but there are more cutscenes with them in the game though. There are a lot of scenes that aren't in the vid.
There are many interactions between them that weren't showed here, for example their interactions in the camp as some of many...
I love when sean was bugging john saying wouldn't wanna get attacked by a squirrel or something
After all, it could put him outta commission for the rest of the year!
Funny enough he has a squirrel in his house
Every Arthur if a youtuber played story mode:
Long Beard
Underweight
Long Hair
did 1% of side missions
Never takes a bath
Does not care about their cores
Over use of deadeye
Never cleaned their guns
We don't need to talk about the horses, poor souls....
Basically what those youtubers you be like if they didn't have the internet.
Horrible outfits
4:49 this had me dying he sounded like a big brother getting pissed off at his little brother for doing dumb shit 😂
1:28 ahhhh the foreshadowing...
I'll always be a John loyalist, but Arthur was a damn good character
Same.
I wonder why they just didn't make John the protagonist for both games. I don't dislike Arthur but it seems like such an illogical choice.
@@Dennis-nc3vw idk guess they wanted to explore another story while doing johns
@@Dennis-nc3vw but look at rdr2 story. It’s dope af
@@Dennis-nc3vw If you follow a character who you know that isn’t gonna die it ruins the tension
9:48 it looks like John’s holding back tears
Honestly I would be doing the same as well 😖
His real actor was actually doing that his actor already cried this was the forth shoot
@@Muneeb_Akhtar was he really? source?
@@mikotoh th-cam.com/video/7DQkDX8jSSo/w-d-xo.html
@@mikotoh search about it
At the beginning of the game, Arthur talks about how John left the gang for a year and said something like "He kept riding and never looked back."
By the end, that's all Arthur wanted John to do: ride and never look back.
I played rdr2 before every playing rdr1 and John was always my favorite character besides Arthur. I didn’t find out John was the protagonist in rdr1 until I beat the main story, shit blew my mind
Arther big brother to John, deep down he loves him
John and Arthur are the most dangerous out of the gang if you come to think about it
Charles is also
@@classicslayer456 hell yes Charles Sadie Arthur John and kieran would’ve made an awesome posse
@@classicslayer456 no because Charles is less likely to just attack out of nowhere
@@laurene988 yes but that dude is as strong as a bull. in one of the camp interactions he picked up micah and through him to the ground and made it look easy
@@barkovisthegoat5822 in that case was easy
No bank robbery
No train robbery
No prison escape
No second train robbery
Yes a lot of missing cutscenes
It’s about the one on ones
@@m1ch1ganb0y yeah i know but a lot seem to complain about this
@@Daysbb it's just you, you cry baby.
I was always ugly, Dutch
-John Marston 1899
1911, some time later, after chicks have been staring longingly at him: "I guess I just have that effect on women"
@@brittanydrye5426 heck, Bonnie actually has crush on him too it's just funny
@@LyllianaofMirrah Bonnie is the only women I’ve ever seen her friend zoned 😂🤣 the jealousy in her eyes when she saw Abigail🤣🤣
I know.
I know...
Love how this game has two beautiful men consistently referring to themselves as ugly.
The perfect duo
In 1899, in the far North, Javier Escuella went searching for John Marston, and when he found him, he slung him over his shoulder and carried him away.
12 years later, in the far South, John Marston went searching for Javier Escuella, and when he found him, he slung him over his shoulder and carried him away.
_"I spared your life, my debt has been repaid."_
John Marston from the hit Disney movie, Mulan.
Arthur was the one who carried John in 1899
@3:22 the way he said "slave fuckers!" Made me lmao
You can tell deep down these two love each other like brothers.
i miss them :-:
Don't we all
We all do
I'm still here drinking with Lenny in heaven
@@arthurmorgan7333 fake Arthur
Arthur deserves to see the stag, cause the stag means that he dies at peace, that he has no regrets. That's why High Honor is the only route for me.
My favourite Combo is John Arthur and Javier
HEY HERMANO
Too bad Javier stuck with Dutch that’s my problem with RDR1 before RDR2
The parallels are amazing. Both Arthur and Uncle mock John for trying to seem mysterious but, as they say, comes of like an idiot.
The twins at Clements Cove basically give the same spiel Hosea gave with Arthur when they're handing out Moonshine in Rhodes.
Bonnie does the same thing in RDR1.
I think Arthurs hat should've been Johns hat from rdr1, so that way, there's a reason why he wears that hat in almost every outfit in that game.
People really want John to obsess over Arthur in every rdr scene John is his own character not Arthur’s lineage.
@@tylore944 John and Arthur were very close, John saw him as his older brother and looked up to him a lot, Arthur and John knew each other for 15 years, so him wearing Arthur's hat and never stopping to wear it makes all the more sense since he knows Arthur sacrificed his life so John and his family can live a life, John also feels guilty of not saving Arthur when he saved him.
@@Vanerov John is his own man he ain’t going to reminisce every 5 seconds on Arthur and bring him up every chance he gets yeah if they did remake rdr they should mention him once or twice but that’s it.
@@tylore944 I never said he was gonna obsess with him or talk about him all the time, Arthur and John knew each other for 15 years, they aren't just mere acquaintances, John sees him as an older brother and an inspiration.
@@Vanerov but he isn’t going to talk about the past all the time he dislikes doing so he just want to move on with his life. Heheh well he did want to move on with his life.
is it wrong that this brought a tear to my eye?
No.
Second game to make me cry first one was twd season 1 with Lee death
Ok so imagine if someone uploaded a video called "Every Arthur Morgan/John Marston appearance in RDR2" and its just a full playthrough from prologue through epilogue
It’d be the longest TH-cam video ever created.
5:20 I had no idea at first why they stopped themselves from smoking, but NOW I see the explosives. 😂
Why would a small light from a cig cause that. They wasted them when they coulda just taken a couple steps back? Am I crazy for thinking that lol
John and Arthur are like brothers.
I remember playing RDR2 and disliking John Marston for a while.
But eventually, I began to see him as a brother as well, and when Dutch claimed John died on the train, I actually said out loud, "JOHN, NO!"
It's amazing how Rockstar made the player connect with the characters as well, and I am still struggling to get how in the world I was able to start liking and loving John.
Sad to think people don’t think Jon fulfilled his promise to Arther by the end of rdr1.. He undoubtedly saved his family and kept their flames carrying on (Arthur and John) through Jack. Neither Arthur nor John failed they lived their dreams and saved everyone who was close to them while righting their wrongs. Two of the greatest characters in American fiction period..
9:55 FUCK! 😭
Players who started with the 1st game must've felt so weird seeing John. Like having an out of body experience
I comfirm that
One of my favorite fictional buddies ever
5 years and half video game and this game never gets old 🥰💛
thank u for this
I love Arthur
“Im coming with you, im gonna get you out of this bullshit if its the last goddamn thing i do”
One of my favorite lines
9:28 hands down the best cutscene in the game, it's wholesome and bittersweet to see these two seeing one another for the last time
"You're my brother."
"I know...i know."
John Marston looks a lot like Charles Branson and Arthur Morgan is like Clint Eastwood
John Marston looks like Norman Reedus more
@@silentskull739 no don't compare this legend to that guy, their hair is probably the same John is way younger and more awesome
@@Bella211886 bro, one is a really person and one a fictional Charakter. And yes they look very similar
@@silentskull739 bruh he looks nothing him
never noticed the American venom tune in john's first cutscene
That’s not American Venom. That’s a motif used in most RDR 1 tracks which was “remixed” in American Venom.
"The shootist" or "RDR1's main theme"
4:49, you goddamn fool Marston💀💀
run and dont look back i felt that
Arthur goes into a raging blizzard and fights off wolves to save his friend
Dutch won’t spare a couple of yards and 5 minutes
5:22 had me dead
I love both of them
It was really ballsy of rockstar to make john such a jerk, and make arthur hate him at the beginning, think how many successful stories tried that
Well yeah its supposed to be a brother relationship and how they're rude towards eachother
It's good that they made John such a deadbeat towards Jack and Abigail, it shows how much he matured.
9:20 I wish there was a way to give John the key and the rest of your money so he could have it in the epilogue
If you haven't gone to the incest pig farm before Arthur goes on his final ride. Drink the spiked shot from the sister when she offers it to you, when Arthur wakes up he'll be robbed of all his money- Normally you would ride back to the farm and kill the pair to take your money from the safe behind the portrait, but if you leave it will stay there. When you come back as John though continue the mission and kill the siblings to take your money back.
my john and arthur always have to have a certain look,
arthur’s beard at 3 and his hair at 4 (original ones)
johns hair at 6 and beard at 4 (original ones)
Both men are badass enough to make fucking Batman shit his pants
I think my favorite is when john is trying to get Arthur to do the oil first mission thingy and its sucha. Brotherly thing to simplw say that half of his brains gotten eat by wolfs and then get smarter
John Marston is CLINT EASTWOOD and Arthur Morgan is CHUCK NORRIS
More like the other way around stupid, Arthur looks way more like Clint Eastwood then John
explains why he can tank so much damage, then eat a steak and be fine.
@@YoloTB true
@@YoloTB you ain’t gotta insult his intelligence now partner
@@YoloTB stupid? It’s a fucking comment calm tf down I’m sure you don’t have many friends
i love them together legit brothers
Arthur seems more mature. it's so sad how these two died
Almost like Arthur was way older and John is the youngest member of the gang aside from Lenny
see i love both of them but i like john a bit more dont get me wrong i cried when arthur died but there is just something about john like i like his elegance more than arthurs brawns and just the whole arc of john building a small army to take down the fort and running around mexico defeating the army and the rebels single handedly and john just comes of as this deadly gunslinger where arthur comes of as a rough and tumble brawler personally i think john is more of a badass not to say arthur not a badass and john is the centre of the franchise if u think about it arthur was just a tool to tell johns story well that and coz rdr1 just feels like a proper spaghetti western where as rdr2 feels like a game that takes place in the early 800s
5:21 the “oh shit” moment just there cracked me tf up
Fun fact:In the mission "the sheep and the goats", the "goats" is referring to John Marston & Arthur Morgan.
If you really think about it, Arthur saved John in the first and last mission we see both of them together in.
5:20
When you about to smoke weed in school but than you hear the bathroom door open
The John missions were the best in chapter 6 because the others missions you are among "friends" you can no longer trust. John is like family to Arthur
Brothers being brothers
such a good game
For some reason I’m thinking of Tommy and Paulie with these two
8:47 Thank you, brother
Healthy arthur is such a fuckin champ
Johns model before the patch was legendary, now he looks hella weird.
BLESS YOU
4:59 so those horses have reins LoL
Mine never had
At 1:56 how Arthur Morgan defends his brother John Marston for looking suspect
Lol funny Micah 😆😂
This is really sad to watch when you know about their inevitable future
i think this wold make a good movie
Where’s the scene when John visits Arthur’s grave after you’ve completed the game 100%?
“When the time comes…you got to run and dont look back”
- Arthor Morgan
Forshadowing???
No dislikes!
I hope we get an update or remastered of RDR2 or RDR3 and we can play as both John/Arthur just like GTA V
i still think arthur should have left with john
He was too sick to keep up. He'd only have slowed him down and maybe even gotten him and his family sick
@@laurene988 they should have left earlier tbh, but Arthur wanted to tie up his loose ends before his death which I respect
He would've died of TB, sorry...
Wouldnt be surprised if this was the last great Rockstar game.
2:11 is that a easter egg to RDR1 when John says “you want me to take out a gun and blow a f***in hole in your head”
Javier could have literally been the third youngest brother :(
Here's what I don't get, Arthur keeps telling John to leave the gang for his safety and the safety of his family, BUT aren't they earning money precisely so they can disappear and be safe? But if that's not necessary, why don't they just all go the way of John and disappear right away?
Because they would be running away as a gang, each time they get more money they get in more trouble and higher chance of getting killed. Arthur wanted him to leave that life behind and start a new one as a regular man
5:19 - 5:23 got to be the funniest scene🤣🤣
Honestly after watching the scenes put together, Arthur and John were the only ones who were making money for the gang.
7:11 uh!
I did a edit with this in my channel lol
My first time realizing who this character was 🤣
I just realized most men in the game are the same height, especially npcs
8
They may not be blood but they are brothers
😊😊
Found a good spot wolfman?
Just realized John is taller than Arthur no wonder he’s so bitter around him 😂
Nah, John is at least 5'11 while Arthur is 6'1
@@DieHardRedemption That’s what their wikis say. But look at concept art and them standing side by side in the game. Arthur is always about a half inch shorter.