The house first then the car, smart bro I needed to see something like this. I have been trying to get one and was willing to put a pause on buying a home but your right about the debt limiting how much you get approved for. I’ll go get mine later on. I see it has a garage to sleep at night in 👍🏽 enjoy the car!
Hey brother, this vid helped me a lot. I was able to find 5k over msrp at a few places, but none were my first choice of color. I was finally able to find a championship white for 6k over, which was a grand over my limit, but to find a white one for 5k over was hard. It took me 6 days total of calling many dealers, I'm sure if I was a bit more patient I'd be able to find a white one for 5k over but honestly mentally it's been stressful and just wanted to get it over with. I will say for anyone looking for a specific color, make sure you talk to the sales managers when you call, and try to get an estimate in any color you can for whatever markup you're willing to pay, and use that when you call other dealers and mention right away if they can match or not if you're looking for a specific color like I was. I found 3 different msrp only dealers, the smallest one had a waitlist of 90+ people. I was willing to wait 2 years if I had to but no one could actually guarantee If I would eventually get a car. Thanks again for this vid bro, I'm from MD and it was cool to get someones help from the DMV. I appreciate it!
It is still ridiculous out there! Just went to look at a Type R the other weekend and they wanted +10k over MSRP/ +60K OTD🤯They even had it roped off like it was a +200k Exotic at a car show! I laughed at that price. They said they haven’t sold one for less than +50k. Told them I would pay $45k OTD but that’s it and they said only 1 employee has gotten a deal like that. Hopefully people will stop paying that markup because we are the ones that are in control and if people just said no, they would be forced to sell it for MSRP! It is a dope car but not +$60k, dope! Hope that you and your family have a blessed one.
Thanks for watching! They're definitely not 60k+ cars. There are many MSRP deals to be had countrywide so I'd definitely keep looking. Check out the motoring obsession discord. They post MSRP deals whenever they get info
Awesome video!! That is so awesome!! In February I traded my 2019 FK8 with 15,000 miles on it and bought a black FL5! I was first on the list and had been in it for over a year and was able to get mine for msrp!! I absolutely love the FL5 and wouldn’t want to go back!! Both great cars but I like my FL5 a bit more! Keep up the incredible content! I look forward to more videos! 🚙😀👍🏼
Remember any accessories added the prices are inflated to add a high profit margin which they usually high profit margin in the first place. I know this from being in a commission based retail sales in electronics. One thing management in my job hammered into the sales staff was to sell accessories! Also the interest rate is another way the dealer makes money on a car sales. So your fico score is really what gives you the leverage to getting a good interest rate unless you are buying the car with cash. Also knowing how long a dealer has had a car on their lot. If they have had it for a long period of time then they are more desperate in selling that particular car because the dealer is paying Honda corporation for that car monthly.
I’m not trying discount the color but I noticed dealers are willing to give better prices on boost blue and red. It’s a love it or hate it color so less people are looking for those colors. I called many dealers and a lot of them had blue in stock but others were already taken or they weren’t wanting to discount the grey or white and that could be the reason why the first guy canceled. Thank you for the information.
@@turbo_tin Whatever the color, you got a hell of a deal. A lot of people in California are paying 15k over because that is the average markup. Some people are paying 20k markup/accessories. The lowest I’ve seen in California was 10k over and it sold while it was in transit.
Hey Tin, thanks for all the info again. I finally got one and getting it today. Flying out to buy one and driving it back home tonight. Man I wished you were close by so we can meet up but I’m in the west coast. Anyway hope your car gets fixed soon!
I feel like buying a brand new car is possibly the worst investment you can make........ UNLESS it is a rare collectible car that will only increase in value through the years. I mean, of course, if it's always been a dream of yours to someday buy a brand new car that you love...... then by all means, if you have the means for it, get it, you only live once as they say. But with that said, I've seen many folks who are living beyond their means just to satisfy their wants and needs, and in the end be a slave to the monthly bills that keeps piling up. I mean, people can spend their money on what they want.... but me, I work hard for my money, I make damn sure it's getting put to good use and not spend frivolously.
I absolutely agree. If people were looking for commuters, I would definitely suggest going with a used car to avoid depreciation. Part of the reason I bought this was to start my channel as a hobby. Thanks for watching!
you got the new ctr without the uber crazy markups the dealer by my house here in jersey open road honda got a boost bluein and went quickly for 75k damn thats wild
Not bad, at least we're getting back to sticker price on enthusiast cars slowly but surely, and hopefully. Lot of them hovering around 50k right now. I personally think even 45k for a Civic is pushing it though. You have a lot of options at 50k for a car: a new Z, Supra, Cayman, M2 etc. Hopefully the competition helps stabilize the market.
All the cars you listed are coupes. If people need sedans they have no other options but to go used or go to the next expensive bracket. Thanks for watching!
The Type R comp is GTI and GR Corola. The Type R legacy and driving experience blows these cars out of the water. I happily paid my $58k for the car. This is coming from someone that owned a STI, Camaro SS, M340i, and a 911/992. It is the best experience hands down. Obviously the 992 was extremely quick and handled like a dream, but comparing $125k to $60k is where the TypeR is just crazy for what you get.
I got bit by the markup on my boost blue. To be fair I kind of got caught up in the moment and didn't research it well before hand. Dealer said they were willing to negotiate the markup to keep it local, which ended up being only about 2k off. It also had 3k in ceramic coating, PPF and something else already on the car so got stuck with that too. It was a show room model so that was kind of neat. Thats really my only regret with the car.
I’ve never bought a new car before I wish I knew about that datatrac thing before I bought my fl5. I checked and even now there’s some crazy low rates on there. I think I might even consider refinancing. Im sure if I refinance since it’s used at this point now, it will have to get used rates but one local bank here it said they offer 2 percent at 60 months. It blew my mind. Not sure if that’s a typo or not I’m calling them tomorrow. But regardless there were still good rates in the upper 2’s and 3 percent range on used. I’m deff thinking about it! Thanks for providing us that tool!
Congrats on your FL5 and great information about the financial that you have been purchased it. Mark up and high interest at Honda dealership are crazy to cost $$$ for car payments.
Looked at a boost blue CTR in Davis, CA. They wanted $30k over msrp. Told them I would buy at $5k over msrp but at over $70k+ thats GTR money. Told them it's nice but it's not $70k+ nice.
Nova gang 💪, we do have some of the worst stealerships in the country here because the people don’t care enough to shop around and just pay the premium.
I bought my FK8 brand new from Rosenthal Fairfax Honda with a zero markup but I agree the dealerships are asking insane markups and people are paying them. The dealership near me wanted 63K for the exact same Boosted Blue FL5.Easy pass. Ill buy a FL5 once the hype dies
@@DaLonelyLoner85 Rosenthal was one of the first few that I hit up. They were firm on their 10k over, comparing themselves to Chantilly. Maybe that'll change later down the line. I wish you the best of luck!
Why do we even need a middle man to buy a car for msrp can't I just buy the car from the manufacturer and have it delivered etc honda and all the car manufacturers need to come together and just Crack down or eliminate dealers that's bad for the brand and uts tough out there peoples hard earned money is being ripped legally 😳
Great content! Thanks. I live in Tysons so I can relate to the markups. Uugh. Where did you end up finding your car? I hope to see you at a gathering. Do you ever make it to Katie’s Cars & Coffee in Great Falls? Congratulations by the way. Enjoy!
@@turbo_tin , outstanding! If you can remember please send me a note the night before so I know to show up. I’ve only seen one in person and it was just for a few minutes. Would love to check it out. Cheers.
That debt thing hit hard. Making around 60-70k and buying a type r for around 50k doesn't seem worth it. If you don't mind me asking, what you do for a living?
Great video! I was in the market looking for one when they first started rolling into the dealers. I was visiting CALI at the time first reales to get some. Was crazy went to three 20-25k markup on each. And here in Fl it’s still around 10-15k markup. My FOMO died so now I’m just going to wait it out
Here in NW Arkansas find one in blue, 45k dealership price, 10-3-23, didn’t buying it, but if one interestebyou can search it theres is like two in white and 1 in blue i wish I could get my hands in one of those 😅
I got my EXL hatchback from Honda of Chantilly! they were the only ones not asking crazy money a few months ago for base trims and I was able to negotiate them down to a 1.5k markup over the phone. Wish I didn't pay it but I needed a car. They did have a FK8 chillin in the showroom in September which I wish I checked the markup on to compare. Congrats on the FL5!
Last November I just bought my 22 hatchback sport boost blue for 32k as my very first car. The original price was 37k but at the end it was worth it because i own my car for 5 months now. I felt super happy with my boost blue sport but some of my co workers think it's a fl5 lol.
If a brand new 23 Supra 3.0 premium manual is offered similar price as type-r, would you buy a Type-R or Supra? I'd like to know people's thoughts on this.
I did consider a few cars while shopping for the Type R and the manual Supra was one of them. After considerations, it wouldn't make sense for me to get the Supra as I already have an NA Miata. Where are you finding 3.0 premium manuals for 49k? That's a bargain!
Been a fan of a civic type r since I was kid lol. That 08 type R was so sick in my eyes. I was mad they never came to the US. Soon as that fk8 came in. I knew I had to cop lol. One day I’ll get the FL5 next to the fk8 lol. Can’t go wrong with either one though
Ok I appreciate the review and congrats on your Type R…. However I need to say I hope you didn’t pay much over MSRP for a Honda Civic (Type R or not). $45k plus you can get a much better car, or a decent down payment on an entry level Porsche pre-owned. You do realize you oissed away anything over MSRP ($7k? $12k? Shit dude…) So how much did you put down? How much is your car note? Do you own or rent your home? Do you have responsibilities like a family? What do you do for a living? How’s your income to debt ratio? I take it you live in California. I ask because I see many young guys (TH-camrs) posting reviews of Type R’s yet I see them living in a town home or apartments with young children. Yes it’s fun to drive a Type R but really responsibilities should take priority over your superficial needs. I’m mean it’s your money, do as you please but living on maxed out credit and owning/financing a vehicle that takes up more than 50% of your net income is not a wise decision.
Thanks for watching my vid. First of all, I understand that for $45k I can get into different cars, but I didn't want a different car. I was also debating on going with a used 911 but I wanted to get the Type R as it offers the practicality that the 911 didn't have. I paid $4.5k over for the car and that's how much I put down. Car payment is $1.2k/mo for 3 years. I'm paying mortgage on my single family home in Northern Virginia. I do take care of my family members that live with me. I'm a cloud engineer. My DTI is at a good level, I'm not stressed about it. Thanks for worrying about my financial well-being but this car is extra money I can spend on after taxes, retirement accounts, savings, mortgages, etc.
I think it also depends on the color of the car. A championship white color would be a lot harder to get closer to msrp than any different color just due to demand
I own a 2023 Integra for MSRP but I’m gunning for a new Civic Type R or a new Integra Type S as 200HP just isn’t enough. However, I will not do more than 4-6% interest and 10% markup.
@@turbo_tin Actually, now that I think it over, what I really want is a 3800 lb TLX Type S that has a sportier transmission, a touchscreen, and a digital dash.
I saw a couple guys here looking at ITS, I wonder if anyone actually took delivery for MSRP. $7,500-$10,000 markup in Houston area. 1 Type R the last I checked, they still want $12,500 over.
Agreed that it does suck. However, Honda has full power to not give allocations to dealers that do ridiculous markups. Some of the blame is also on Honda
The FEES. Very important for anyone to go and waste your time. They will surprise you with 5k in dealer fees for b.s that he explaimed, 2k for nitrogen fill ups lol ..youd be surprised at their dumb fees
Im from NJ, I travelled to the Poconos, PA and purchased mine at $5,000 over msrp. Honda, at Mahwah, NJ is asking for a $25k msrp and the rest in north jersey are asking between 10-15k markup.
Hey what was your place in line at Honda World? I was 5th but I've heard that several people dropped out so I'm trying to figure out where I stand. Also, according to Steve's tracker, they were in the first wave and got a red car. Were you first in line but just didn't get it or something?
Hey, thanks for watching! I don't see any records of Honda World getting a CTR. I was told by the salesman that I was first in line at the time. Good luck on getting yours!
I will say, one thing that sucks about this approach. Those of us that actually live in the Midwest can’t get them because everyone has used the tracker and buys them all over the country
Nice advice on buying. You did well at a $4500 mark-up. Did you have to pay for shipping from the out of state dealership to your home? The shipping costs plus the interest costs on the loan should also be added to your total cost for the car.
Can't help you in Canada since I heard dealers will sell them as used to circumvent the MSRP only rule. I'd suggest calling all the dealers in Canada to get on a list for a good price if you haven't already
Fuck dealer mark up is insane. I remember buying my evo x for 36k otd the dealer didnt even out no mark up on it cause they felt bad i flew from sf to la to pick it up.
I agree 5k isn't bad on a nationwide scale. If I were to sell it right now I can probably fetch the same price I paid for it, maybe a little less. A few auctions have been done and looks like the market thinks 50k is a fair price
@@turbo_tinYeah if you can break even or just lose nothing significant (assuming you’ll sell later on).. this is a huge win. I bought one of the last production fk8’s in 2021 with no markup. Sold a year later with 5k miles for 5k profit. Didn’t daily, just joyride. Have a ‘18 hatch to daily It was sad parting ways but an awesome feeling knowing pretty much you get paid to drive a sick car.
i had a dealer try to sell me on no markups, but 10k for mandatory accessories........they were all the basic accessories you can add online too which was absurd 😂
So much common sense here. House then car. Priorities! And congrats on the car.
I'm grateful to have received a lot of guidance in life. Thank you for watching, David!
Houses too expensive anyway 😢
For sure I would have gotten the home first as it’s an asset! Being a finance major that was a smart move to get a home first as the main priority
The house first then the car, smart bro I needed to see something like this. I have been trying to get one and was willing to put a pause on buying a home but your right about the debt limiting how much you get approved for. I’ll go get mine later on. I see it has a garage to sleep at night in 👍🏽 enjoy the car!
Good luck on your house search Kevin. Thank you for watching!
House always first, the car always losing value 😅
No I bought the car first then the co-op..
Player’s do what they want and sucker do what they can. 🫶🏻
Smart move a house is an asset not a liability
Hey brother, this vid helped me a lot. I was able to find 5k over msrp at a few places, but none were my first choice of color. I was finally able to find a championship white for 6k over, which was a grand over my limit, but to find a white one for 5k over was hard. It took me 6 days total of calling many dealers, I'm sure if I was a bit more patient I'd be able to find a white one for 5k over but honestly mentally it's been stressful and just wanted to get it over with. I will say for anyone looking for a specific color, make sure you talk to the sales managers when you call, and try to get an estimate in any color you can for whatever markup you're willing to pay, and use that when you call other dealers and mention right away if they can match or not if you're looking for a specific color like I was. I found 3 different msrp only dealers, the smallest one had a waitlist of 90+ people. I was willing to wait 2 years if I had to but no one could actually guarantee If I would eventually get a car. Thanks again for this vid bro, I'm from MD and it was cool to get someones help from the DMV. I appreciate it!
Congrats on your new car! Glad I was able to help.
Just got mine at msrp, HOLD THE LINE FOLKS. DO NOT BUY ABOVE MSRP!
LET'S GOOOO. CONGRATS!!
Which dealership if you can share please
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Which dealer?
Appreciate you posting this, hoping by the time I’m looking for one it’s not as nuts but the info is gold. Hope you love it
I've been loving every mile. Thanks for watching and hope you get yours soon!
It is still ridiculous out there! Just went to look at a Type R the other weekend and they wanted +10k over MSRP/ +60K OTD🤯They even had it roped off like it was a +200k Exotic at a car show! I laughed at that price. They said they haven’t sold one for less than +50k. Told them I would pay $45k OTD but that’s it and they said only 1 employee has gotten a deal like that. Hopefully people will stop paying that markup because we are the ones that are in control and if people just said no, they would be forced to sell it for MSRP! It is a dope car but not +$60k, dope! Hope that you and your family have a blessed one.
Thanks for watching! They're definitely not 60k+ cars. There are many MSRP deals to be had countrywide so I'd definitely keep looking. Check out the motoring obsession discord. They post MSRP deals whenever they get info
was looking for a FL5 for the past few months in Toronto Canada . there was NONE!~~ came across a DE 5 at MSRP. Got the car and I AM HAPPY
Congrats! Hope you enjoy your car
You just got a new subscriber, we need to continue to push financial literacy. Congrats on both purchases.
I appreciate the kind words Terrence. Thanks for watching!
Great insight and you've got your priorities right - house purchase with garage shelter first, then nice car purchase!
Thanks! 👍
Great purchase and review about the buying process. Amazing car, man! There is def one in my future.
Thank you for your kind words. Hope you get yours soon!
Awesome video!! That is so awesome!! In February I traded my 2019 FK8 with 15,000 miles on it and bought a black FL5! I was first on the list and had been in it for over a year and was able to get mine for msrp!! I absolutely love the FL5 and wouldn’t want to go back!! Both great cars but I like my FL5 a bit more! Keep up the incredible content! I look forward to more videos! 🚙😀👍🏼
That's awesome Shaun! Congrats on your new FL5 and thank you for your support. I hope to continue making good content in the future!
@@turbo_tin thanks so much!! I appreciate it! I look forward to more videos! Keep up the great work!🚙😀👍🏼
i hate my fl5 . will be trading it in about a year
@@antoniodelrosario1011 sorry to hear. Any particular reasons?
4500 markup is good to go, i live in MD and currently have 2021 fk8 boosted blue. It's nice to know the Honda owing mill gives you $6k markup
4.5k isn't super terrible. Thanks for watching!
Great informative video! Props to your financial literacy as well.
Thank you for your kind words!
Remember any accessories added the prices are inflated to add a high profit margin which they usually high profit margin in the first place. I know this from being in a commission based retail sales in electronics. One thing management in my job hammered into the sales staff was to sell accessories! Also the interest rate is another way the dealer makes money on a car sales. So your fico score is really what gives you the leverage to getting a good interest rate unless you are buying the car with cash. Also knowing how long a dealer has had a car on their lot. If they have had it for a long period of time then they are more desperate in selling that particular car because the dealer is paying Honda corporation for that car monthly.
Great tips!
I’m not trying discount the color but I noticed dealers are willing to give better prices on boost blue and red. It’s a love it or hate it color so less people are looking for those colors. I called many dealers and a lot of them had blue in stock but others were already taken or they weren’t wanting to discount the grey or white and that could be the reason why the first guy canceled. Thank you for the information.
I think blue and red are too loud for some people and that could be the reason why they passed on them.
@@turbo_tin Whatever the color, you got a hell of a deal. A lot of people in California are paying 15k over because that is the average markup. Some people are paying 20k markup/accessories. The lowest I’ve seen in California was 10k over and it sold while it was in transit.
Hey Tin, thanks for all the info again. I finally got one and getting it today. Flying out to buy one and driving it back home tonight. Man I wished you were close by so we can meet up but I’m in the west coast. Anyway hope your car gets fixed soon!
@@mikej972 Congrats Mike! Glad to know I was helpful. Hope you enjoy your new FL5!
This was good man. I'm gonna wait 2 years for mine.
Thanks for watching. Hope you get yours in 2 years!
@@turbo_tin thanks man. Like u said, priorities
I love the FL5 but I'm getting an Integra Type S for all the amenities and no mark up. I was able to secure one with a 2K deposit from a local dealer.
Very nice! Hope you enjoy the car!
What dealership?
@@jamie-alexander6247he's bs'ing. Type s has markups too. That's why no answer 😂
@@taemeister9302 I got mine In August with no markups. Most dealerships out there aren’t doing markups anymore on them
Thanks for being honest bro! Love the car!!!
I try to be unbiased. Thanks for your support!
I feel like buying a brand new car is possibly the worst investment you can make........ UNLESS it is a rare collectible car that will only increase in value through the years. I mean, of course, if it's always been a dream of yours to someday buy a brand new car that you love...... then by all means, if you have the means for it, get it, you only live once as they say. But with that said, I've seen many folks who are living beyond their means just to satisfy their wants and needs, and in the end be a slave to the monthly bills that keeps piling up. I mean, people can spend their money on what they want.... but me, I work hard for my money, I make damn sure it's getting put to good use and not spend frivolously.
I absolutely agree. If people were looking for commuters, I would definitely suggest going with a used car to avoid depreciation. Part of the reason I bought this was to start my channel as a hobby. Thanks for watching!
Very well spoken and to the point from a 2021 Type R owner.
Thank you for your support 🙂
Awesome video, I’m also from nova, put a deposit on a white ITS, hoping for late July delivery
Thanks for watching! Hope you get your car soon!
you got the new ctr without the uber crazy markups the dealer by my house here in jersey open road honda got a boost bluein and went quickly for 75k damn thats wild
They're still being picked up for 10k over nationwide. I did decent for not wanting to wait. Thanks for watching!
Not bad, at least we're getting back to sticker price on enthusiast cars slowly but surely, and hopefully. Lot of them hovering around 50k right now. I personally think even 45k for a Civic is pushing it though. You have a lot of options at 50k for a car: a new Z, Supra, Cayman, M2 etc. Hopefully the competition helps stabilize the market.
All the cars you listed are coupes. If people need sedans they have no other options but to go used or go to the next expensive bracket. Thanks for watching!
The Type R comp is GTI and GR Corola. The Type R legacy and driving experience blows these cars out of the water. I happily paid my $58k for the car. This is coming from someone that owned a STI, Camaro SS, M340i, and a 911/992. It is the best experience hands down. Obviously the 992 was extremely quick and handled like a dream, but comparing $125k to $60k is where the TypeR is just crazy for what you get.
@@daBezy Thats pathetic. Just to get smoked by older cheaper mustangs
@@Craiggg12345 Those totally different cars. Lol
Love the video, very informative looking forward to seeing more vids
Thank you!
Beautiful car congratulations!!!
Thank you!!
I got bit by the markup on my boost blue. To be fair I kind of got caught up in the moment and didn't research it well before hand. Dealer said they were willing to negotiate the markup to keep it local, which ended up being only about 2k off. It also had 3k in ceramic coating, PPF and something else already on the car so got stuck with that too. It was a show room model so that was kind of neat. Thats really my only regret with the car.
I wouldn't fret too much about that. You can always make more money later
@@turbo_tin The sting goes away a little each time i drive it. 😁
Hey Tin it's STEye. Your vids look pro man! One day I will get my car...
Thanks for watching. Hope your car comes soon!
I’ve never bought a new car before I wish I knew about that datatrac thing before I bought my fl5. I checked and even now there’s some crazy low rates on there. I think I might even consider refinancing. Im sure if I refinance since it’s used at this point now, it will have to get used rates but one local bank here it said they offer 2 percent at 60 months. It blew my mind. Not sure if that’s a typo or not I’m calling them tomorrow. But regardless there were still good rates in the upper 2’s and 3 percent range on used. I’m deff thinking about it!
Thanks for providing us that tool!
Some still consider new cars as 2020+. Definitely ask them about the details. Thanks for watching!
Very informative video and amazing looking car! Congrats!!!
Thanks for the support!
Congrats on your FL5 and great information about the financial that you have been purchased it. Mark up and high interest at Honda dealership are crazy to cost $$$ for car payments.
Markups + high interest rates are definitely not ideal. Thanks for watching George!
Good tips, and congrats on the car!
Thanks for the support!
Thank you for sharing this information
Thank you for watching!
Congrats on the car! 🔥
Thank you!
The Car is very Special,real Performance Car,in Germany/ Car is even more expensive as in the US. And even more rare. Weve in Germany only 130 Cars.
About to be back in the market for a new car. The type R is really sweet but I’d prefer the more mature
Integra Type S this summer.
Hope you get yours soon! Thanks for watching Tim.
Type S has crazy markups
Looked at a boost blue CTR in Davis, CA. They wanted $30k over msrp. Told them I would buy at $5k over msrp but at over $70k+ thats GTR money. Told them it's nice but it's not $70k+ nice.
Definitely not a 70k+ car. Hope you find a decent priced one soon!
Not really related to the video but I’ve been paying 30% on a $4600 for a year it’s been… a ride fs
Nova gang 💪, we do have some of the worst stealerships in the country here because the people don’t care enough to shop around and just pay the premium.
Nova gang 💪. It's unfortunate how the stealerships work around this area. If you go a bit west of here the markups drop off a few thousands
I bought my FK8 brand new from Rosenthal Fairfax Honda with a zero markup but I agree the dealerships are asking insane markups and people are paying them. The dealership near me wanted 63K for the exact same Boosted Blue FL5.Easy pass. Ill buy a FL5 once the hype dies
@@DaLonelyLoner85 Rosenthal was one of the first few that I hit up. They were firm on their 10k over, comparing themselves to Chantilly. Maybe that'll change later down the line. I wish you the best of luck!
love the blue on it
I love it too. Honda did a great job on this blue!
Why do we even need a middle man to buy a car for msrp can't I just buy the car from the manufacturer and have it delivered etc honda and all the car manufacturers need to come together and just Crack down or eliminate dealers that's bad for the brand and uts tough out there peoples hard earned money is being ripped legally 😳
Agreed. We should have direct to consumer options
thanks for information. Really hate reseller and hope Honda just mark up the price or just simply make more
Moral of this story, stack your money and get a credit union account to finance through
I got my 2023 Civic Type R at sticker no dealer mark up period
Congrats! Hope you enjoy the car.
What city and state? And when?
@@looneyyang1326They NEVER answer this question😂See people ask EVERYONE that says they got it at MSRP and they never respond.....EVER!
Great content! Thanks. I live in Tysons so I can relate to the markups. Uugh. Where did you end up finding your car? I hope to see you at a gathering. Do you ever make it to Katie’s Cars & Coffee in Great Falls? Congratulations by the way. Enjoy!
Hi Scott. I got my car in Ohio. I'll definitely make it out to Katie's after I get the car ceramic coated. See you there!
@@turbo_tin , outstanding! If you can remember please send me a note the night before so I know to show up. I’ve only seen one in person and it was just for a few minutes. Would love to check it out. Cheers.
Will do!
That debt thing hit hard. Making around 60-70k and buying a type r for around 50k doesn't seem worth it. If you don't mind me asking, what you do for a living?
Thanks for watching! I am a systems engineer by day.
NIce car id love to know what you do as far as for a living and how your able to afford not only a home but also the type r
Thanks for watching. I work in IT in a high cost of living area and in a high demand sector. Hope that helps
Tbh your car is still cheaper than a UK car if you can get one over here there's a mark up due to scarcity and they are close to 50k Stirling
I hope you guys get more allocations soon!
I just bought my house, we just finished paying off our wedding, just a few more weeks til I purchase an FK8
Congratulations!! Hope you get your dream FL8 soon
Great video! I was in the market looking for one when they first started rolling into the dealers. I was visiting CALI at the time first reales to get some. Was crazy went to three 20-25k markup on each. And here in Fl it’s still around 10-15k markup. My FOMO died so now I’m just going to wait it out
I heard a FL dealer just sold for 5k over. Good luck on your search!
Here in NW Arkansas find one in blue, 45k dealership price, 10-3-23, didn’t buying it, but if one interestebyou can search it theres is like two in white and 1 in blue i wish I could get my hands in one of those 😅
DMV represent!
I also seen that map tracker of type r
Nice video and cool car bro!
Thank you for your support!
Went to check out an Si at the local dealership. Had a mark up of 9,999 for a grand total of 39,999
Terrible pricing. The Si isn't even a limited production car
When is race day lol, grats on the new car!
Race content soon 👀. Thank you for your support!
Good job🔥💯
Thank you!
I saw you in Chantilly yesterday!!!
I WAS in Chantilly yesterday!
I bought a 718 spyder at MSRP and that car was built to spec. There is not a chance in hell I would pay over list for a type R or any honda.
Imagine paying 45000 plus for a civic with only 300hp lol
5k is insanely good I’m really tryna get one of these too
Wish you the best. Thanks for watching!
I got my EXL hatchback from Honda of Chantilly! they were the only ones not asking crazy money a few months ago for base trims and I was able to negotiate them down to a 1.5k markup over the phone. Wish I didn't pay it but I needed a car. They did have a FK8 chillin in the showroom in September which I wish I checked the markup on to compare. Congrats on the FL5!
Thanks for watching! Hope you're enjoying your car.
Last November I just bought my 22 hatchback sport boost blue for 32k as my very first car. The original price was 37k but at the end it was worth it because i own my car for 5 months now. I felt super happy with my boost blue sport but some of my co workers think it's a fl5 lol.
Congrats on your car!
Did it have a bunch of add ons and warranty? Bec the top trim civic hatch is 32k msrp
In Puerto Rico the price is 65K 🥲
That's terrible 😭
You are so lucky bro I currently work for a Honda dealership our markup on our type r is 20 grand bro your lucky 🍀 70k
20k markup 💀. Terrible pricing
Looking to trade in the STI for the new Type R. Best I’ve gotten was $5k mark up. But no Type R in sight. Any recommendations. Located in GA
I would expand your call to nearby states. A lot of cars were allocated today. Check out the motoring obsession site in the description. Good luck!
If a brand new 23 Supra 3.0 premium manual is offered similar price as type-r, would you buy a Type-R or Supra? I'd like to know people's thoughts on this.
I did consider a few cars while shopping for the Type R and the manual Supra was one of them. After considerations, it wouldn't make sense for me to get the Supra as I already have an NA Miata. Where are you finding 3.0 premium manuals for 49k? That's a bargain!
Been a fan of a civic type r since I was kid lol. That 08 type R was so sick in my eyes. I was mad they never came to the US. Soon as that fk8 came in. I knew I had to cop lol. One day I’ll get the FL5 next to the fk8 lol. Can’t go wrong with either one though
When I was younger perhaps… now putting all that energy into copping a civic makes it look like a clown-mobile. Sad stuff…
I go for Type R all time
@@killelsa01 type r for legit branding and not half bmw / toyota. Also the type r is more nimble and practical
Ok I appreciate the review and congrats on your Type R…. However I need to say I hope you didn’t pay much over MSRP for a Honda Civic (Type R or not). $45k plus you can get a much better car, or a decent down payment on an entry level Porsche pre-owned. You do realize you oissed away anything over MSRP ($7k? $12k? Shit dude…) So how much did you put down? How much is your car note? Do you own or rent your home? Do you have responsibilities like a family? What do you do for a living? How’s your income to debt ratio? I take it you live in California. I ask because I see many young guys (TH-camrs) posting reviews of Type R’s yet I see them living in a town home or apartments with young children. Yes it’s fun to drive a Type R but really responsibilities should take priority over your superficial needs. I’m mean it’s your money, do as you please but living on maxed out credit and owning/financing a vehicle that takes up more than 50% of your net income is not a wise decision.
Thanks for watching my vid. First of all, I understand that for $45k I can get into different cars, but I didn't want a different car. I was also debating on going with a used 911 but I wanted to get the Type R as it offers the practicality that the 911 didn't have. I paid $4.5k over for the car and that's how much I put down. Car payment is $1.2k/mo for 3 years. I'm paying mortgage on my single family home in Northern Virginia. I do take care of my family members that live with me. I'm a cloud engineer. My DTI is at a good level, I'm not stressed about it. Thanks for worrying about my financial well-being but this car is extra money I can spend on after taxes, retirement accounts, savings, mortgages, etc.
So your telling me you only paid off 49k then whats the charge for your tax? Registration? That should comes up all the way 54k plus apr on your loan?
Hi Andrew,
Car sales tax in VA is 4.15% so that comes out to be ~2k. Total out the door is ~51k + ~2k interest.
@@turbo_tin thats nice to live in that state then 👍
Fortunate to live in a lowish tax state. 🙏
Sick car bro 😎
Thanks bro!
I think it also depends on the color of the car. A championship white color would be a lot harder to get closer to msrp than any different color just due to demand
I can see that. However, CW and BB are the two most popular colors. I can see them being sold for MSRP sooner than we think
I own a 2023 Integra for MSRP but I’m gunning for a new Civic Type R or a new Integra Type S as 200HP just isn’t enough. However, I will not do more than 4-6% interest and 10% markup.
Sounds like a good plan. Hope you get your car!
@@turbo_tin Did the recent announcement on the pending 2024 Integra Type S catch your eye any?
It looks nice but it's not my cup of tea. I prefer the type r better
@@turbo_tin Actually, now that I think it over, what I really want is a 3800 lb TLX Type S that has a sportier transmission, a touchscreen, and a digital dash.
I saw a couple guys here looking at ITS, I wonder if anyone actually took delivery for MSRP. $7,500-$10,000 markup in Houston area. 1 Type R the last I checked, they still want $12,500 over.
Cars are cool but Dealers suck make the car buying experience horrible. I have to remember the Brand shouldn't be reflected by a Dealership.
Agreed that it does suck. However, Honda has full power to not give allocations to dealers that do ridiculous markups. Some of the blame is also on Honda
kind of a impossible deal,amazing bro congrats
Thank you for your support!
CivicXI is where dreams go to die 😂 got 2 of my FL5s for MSRP easily
The FEES. Very important for anyone to go and waste your time. They will surprise you with 5k in dealer fees for b.s that he explaimed, 2k for nitrogen fill ups lol ..youd be surprised at their dumb fees
When I was dealing, I only talked OTD numbers and I would advise people to do the same. Thanks for watching!
Shout out to nfcu got my 2020 si in 2020 with them 2.1 apr. Over 60 months
Sub’ed
Thanks Benny!
Good thinking
What's your car number on dashboard?
I am #1844
@@turbo_tin
The first R to reach saudi arabia before one week is
5117#
Im from NJ, I travelled to the Poconos, PA and purchased mine at $5,000 over msrp. Honda, at Mahwah, NJ is asking for a $25k msrp and the rest in north jersey are asking between 10-15k markup.
Good deal! Hope she treats you well
Ay, Euclid Ohio!
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Hey what was your place in line at Honda World? I was 5th but I've heard that several people dropped out so I'm trying to figure out where I stand. Also, according to Steve's tracker, they were in the first wave and got a red car. Were you first in line but just didn't get it or something?
Hey, thanks for watching!
I don't see any records of Honda World getting a CTR. I was told by the salesman that I was first in line at the time. Good luck on getting yours!
I will say, one thing that sucks about this approach. Those of us that actually live in the Midwest can’t get them because everyone has used the tracker and buys them all over the country
Hopefully things get better soon for your search!
Nice advice on buying. You did well at a $4500 mark-up. Did you have to pay for shipping from the out of state dealership to your home? The shipping costs plus the interest costs on the loan should also be added to your total cost for the car.
Thanks Robert. I flew out and drove 7 hours back so no shipping cost incurred.
How’s the winter snow drive?
I didn't drive it too much in the winter, especially if it's snowing since I'm on summer tires. When it's warmer out (~50F), it's totally fine
Did you pay the sales tax in Ohio or Virginia?
I paid sales tax only in Virginia
You are lucky to get that price.
I did put a lot of work and effort into it. Thanks for watching!
Would you happen to know if there gonna be making a 2024 type r or is the 2023 last of its kind?
They are making a 2024 model
Hi, what is a good out of the dealer price for the civic type R?
That depends on where you are and your tax rates. Nowadays it's more common to see MSRP deals so be on the lookout for those dealers.
So in FL a good OTD price should be around 50,000?
Best deal so far in FL OTD is 57,500 for a 2024 White championship I'll keep looking around.
any suggestion if I can buy one from Vancouver? thx
Can't help you in Canada since I heard dealers will sell them as used to circumvent the MSRP only rule. I'd suggest calling all the dealers in Canada to get on a list for a good price if you haven't already
@@turbo_tin got it, thanks Tin!
Rolling in dough you pay almost 1500 a month for 36 mos you rolling in it man
YOLO 🤣. Thanks for watching!
Fuck dealer mark up is insane. I remember buying my evo x for 36k otd the dealer didnt even out no mark up on it cause they felt bad i flew from sf to la to pick it up.
It's terrible out here for specialty cars
So 36 months Im assuming your monthly payments are pretty close to 1000+ a month?
That's correct. I broke it down in more details in one of my latest videos here. th-cam.com/video/VPpis2yqUps/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching!
51k out the door. Whats sale tax there? Or any?
52k otd with VA sales tax
5k ain’t to bad on ctr’s depending on the resale. If you were to sell this car with like 2-5k miles.. how much can you get?
I agree 5k isn't bad on a nationwide scale. If I were to sell it right now I can probably fetch the same price I paid for it, maybe a little less. A few auctions have been done and looks like the market thinks 50k is a fair price
@@turbo_tinYeah if you can break even or just lose nothing significant (assuming you’ll sell later on).. this is a huge win. I bought one of the last production fk8’s in 2021 with no markup. Sold a year later with 5k miles for 5k profit. Didn’t daily, just joyride. Have a ‘18 hatch to daily
It was sad parting ways but an awesome feeling knowing pretty much you get paid to drive a sick car.
Congrats! Enjoying a nice car for free is always nice
When are you posting tricking content ⁉️
For my next trick I'll keep you in suspense
51k usd? Jeez thats like 70k where i am
It is an expensive civic for sure 😂. Thanks for watching!
Fucc..in San Diego. Can’t get msrp cash
50,000$ for civic type R
i had a dealer try to sell me on no markups, but 10k for mandatory accessories........they were all the basic accessories you can add online too which was absurd 😂
Terrible pricing. Did you negotiate?
"20k mark-up just for a civic"...???!! Just for any car
Wait til you see the more desirable cars
Good job
Thanks for watching!