I tried Ubuntu Touch on a Pinephone. Very impressive: Ubuntu Touch that is. The PinePhone is a piece of crap, it sort of worked for 3 month, the length of the warranty then refused to charge. I hope the Ubuntu Touch community ports it to something reliable like a Fairphone or a ShiftPhone.
Ubuntu Touch already runs on Fairphone 4. Have you tried any distros on pinephone recently? Looks like they have a new Debian distro Armbian. Last time I checked all the pinephone distros were basically betas.
@@dp27thelight9 unfortunatley I have a FP 3 not the FP4. Trying another distro on the Pinephone is a bit of a challenge since I can not use the USB port to charge the battery so that I can install the firmware update to fix the USB port battery charging bug.
So from my perspective, the UT pinephone went the same way as the original UT phones ever since it came out. The community just did not show up to help or care. UBports did a bit for awhile with one guy, but the community voted with their feet for having UT work today under the android hardware layer, even though the goal was to have a pure linux phone. Moot point now as the pinephone is now getting old and never was meant to be anything except a dev platform. Still would be nice to see a real linux phone some day. We need that.
For 20 years now, I've been waiting to see a phone that allows you to see a desktop, tap, create file, select text, and just make a text file. Or see a file on the desktop, you click it, and it runs a program. Not an app from some marketplace, but a program, run an executable.
Anybody who says you have a computer in your pocket is lying. You have a phone that has apps. It's not a computer until it can do what a computer does.
@@rpgreseller It can do what computer does only the presentation is different. In your very limited view i think almost nothing will define as a computer. Maybe it even should heve terminal and a full keyboard to be a `real`computer. Maybe a phone is just not for you.
I don't understand how the camera can not work when the phone is like 3 years old and Ubuntu touch has been around much longer than that, and both efforts are ran by enthusiasts. Is it just because they are not capable of building it? I doubt it would be lack of cooperation/trying.
A big pity this kind of died (main develop with Ubuntu) There must be a way to make it compatible with Android apps, their based on the same kernel, that way they could then concentrate on getting to run on more devices.
I did put alot of hopes in linux phones... but all I see is still just a complicated nokia phone, but slow and buggy. Most promising was SailfishOS - but even they seem to have given up, as russia is now using it for their Aurora OS. I dont want to troll... I'm sad myself about it.
I settled for a Google Pixel 3aXL with Ubuntu Touch. Installed Waydroid and Aurora store (no relation to AuroraOS afaik)and can so far run every Android app i wanted to try. Runs amazingly well for a mid tier from 2019.
Check out short; It details the steps. You can also go to the pinephone pro wiki. There are instructions and they will mildly differ depending on your current installation (installed to SDCard versus internal and if you have towbook installed as the bootloader.)
The sad thing is, Android IS Linux, so in theory, app support shouldn't be an issue. The problem is that open source is far more susceptible to viruses than a walled garden like iOS (As a lifelong Android owner, I can attest to that). They probably just aren't marketing it properly, marketing goes a long way to being successful.
LineageOS is what I currently use, de-googled and custom drivers, I love it. Linux Mobile could be so much better if it was advertised in a way that appeals to the masses while showcasing what it can do and more importantly, how it will benefit them. Few of them care about privacy, and even less are willing to challenge it when they do. So advertising other features while touting privacy as a benefit and not the focus would easily turn things around for them.
I think generally the largest danger is getting software from the internet on a random page. If your phone is like a computer, it opens vectors. Yes, the walled garden probably helps with security because people are actually payed to review applications from the app fees.. However, I don't think that software in proper repositories has that much more of a danger... they are also generally vetted to some degree. All of the danger comes from going outside of the safe zone. In the case of iPhone, you generally can't leave it at all.
"those little dots next to running applications reminds me a little bit of MacOS X" yeah and it should remind of you something else.... hmm... has the same name... goes on the desktop...
@@bitterepic I think they mean the Unity desktop. Canonical was trying to make one environment which worked well on computers and phones while keeping the same look and feel.
@@StephenFasciani not really, because android smartphones are more often called to these parties for developers of mobile distributions, rather than real Linux devices.
I don't think primary development is done for the drivers of the Pinephone Pro using Ubuntu... so it isn't preinstalled. That also means that everything comes to Ubuntu Touch courtesy of a volunteer at a later point.
If you look at the sponsorships, pine64 is listed... for how ever much that is worth. I can't say how much of a sponsorship it is. ubports.com/en/sponsorship
@@brugj03 Because this way I can prevent companies with whom I do not have an agreement from using my personal data as a primary basis for their business. Also, with Linux I can make the most of my phone's hardware, making it more eco-friendly and fast
Do you include a Naruto themed keyboard and mouse, to constantly type in the password, and copy off web pages commands, to paste in the Linux terminal? Even with free Sailor Moon themed keyboard and mouse, that dumb crap (especially the terminal) has to go, if you ever want more than 2-4% global users. Normal people aren't like Linux people. They have better things to do than type in their beloved Linux terminal all day and night long, from within mommy's basement.
I tried Ubuntu Touch on a Pinephone. Very impressive: Ubuntu Touch that is. The PinePhone is a piece of crap, it sort of worked for 3 month, the length of the warranty then refused to charge. I hope the Ubuntu Touch community ports it to something reliable like a Fairphone or a ShiftPhone.
It's on older OnePlus phones, which is something.
There’s a USB controller firmware update. This fixed my charging problems
@@hotswapster thanks. I'll have to find a way to charge the battery, can not charge it using the USB port.
Ubuntu Touch already runs on Fairphone 4. Have you tried any distros on pinephone recently? Looks like they have a new Debian distro Armbian. Last time I checked all the pinephone distros were basically betas.
@@dp27thelight9 unfortunatley I have a FP 3 not the FP4. Trying another distro on the Pinephone is a bit of a challenge since I can not use the USB port to charge the battery so that I can install the firmware update to fix the USB port battery charging bug.
So from my perspective, the UT pinephone went the same way as the original UT phones ever since it came out. The community just did not show up to help or care. UBports did a bit for awhile with one guy, but the community voted with their feet for having UT work today under the android hardware layer, even though the goal was to have a pure linux phone. Moot point now as the pinephone is now getting old and never was meant to be anything except a dev platform. Still would be nice to see a real linux phone some day. We need that.
I did not know Sheldon had a youtube channel. Nice!
People used to say I look like the Smashing Pumpkins guy. This is an upgrade!
@@bitterepic I hope you had a laugh out of it, that was the intention 🤣
Commenting from Ubuntu touch on the pixel 3a XL
For 20 years now, I've been waiting to see a phone that allows you to see a desktop, tap, create file, select text, and just make a text file. Or see a file on the desktop, you click it, and it runs a program. Not an app from some marketplace, but a program, run an executable.
Anybody who says you have a computer in your pocket is lying. You have a phone that has apps. It's not a computer until it can do what a computer does.
Maybe it`s about time to adapt to the consensus of what a phone is, instead of trying to make it do things that where never the intention.
@@rpgreseller It can do what computer does only the presentation is different.
In your very limited view i think almost nothing will define as a computer.
Maybe it even should heve terminal and a full keyboard to be a `real`computer.
Maybe a phone is just not for you.
I don't understand how the camera can not work when the phone is like 3 years old and Ubuntu touch has been around much longer than that, and both efforts are ran by enthusiasts. Is it just because they are not capable of building it? I doubt it would be lack of cooperation/trying.
I tried on my OnePlus 3 and I can tell you guys WAS SMOOTH !!!
Now you can also run it on qemu, as now you don’t need a passtrough to get opengl and other niceties to get ubuntu touch running.
Ubuntu touch vs Graphene vs Lineage vs Calyx, which one is better?
Noted! I'll put this in my queue
@@bitterepic great to hear
A big pity this kind of died (main develop with Ubuntu) There must be a way to make it compatible with Android apps, their based on the same kernel, that way they could then concentrate on getting to run on more devices.
So basically android is a java VM run by the Linux kernel
I did put alot of hopes in linux phones... but all I see is still just a complicated nokia phone, but slow and buggy. Most promising was SailfishOS - but even they seem to have given up, as russia is now using it for their Aurora OS. I dont want to troll... I'm sad myself about it.
I settled for a Google Pixel 3aXL with Ubuntu Touch. Installed Waydroid and Aurora store (no relation to AuroraOS afaik)and can so far run every Android app i wanted to try. Runs amazingly well for a mid tier from 2019.
How can I reinstall android from ubuntu touch?
You would likely use a reinstall image from your manufacturer, similar to how you would have installed Ubuntu Touch.
What if we run sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root?
Bash detects that by default
Is it possible to install on an iPhone 6 plus?
no not yet
How do you install ubuntu touch on the Pine Phone >
Check out short; It details the steps. You can also go to the pinephone pro wiki. There are instructions and they will mildly differ depending on your current installation (installed to SDCard versus internal and if you have towbook installed as the bootloader.)
you have a google free cell, and goes install google mess again.......
I'm basically just trying to install LINE from the play store. Do you recommend some other stores?
Since it's gon run on a mobile chip the lack of software kills me
The sad thing is, Android IS Linux, so in theory, app support shouldn't be an issue.
The problem is that open source is far more susceptible to viruses than a walled garden like iOS (As a lifelong Android owner, I can attest to that).
They probably just aren't marketing it properly, marketing goes a long way to being successful.
LineageOS is what I currently use, de-googled and custom drivers, I love it.
Linux Mobile could be so much better if it was advertised in a way that appeals to the masses while showcasing what it can do and more importantly, how it will benefit them.
Few of them care about privacy, and even less are willing to challenge it when they do. So advertising other features while touting privacy as a benefit and not the focus would easily turn things around for them.
"open source is far more susceptible to viruses than a walled garden" This has been debunked many times
I think generally the largest danger is getting software from the internet on a random page. If your phone is like a computer, it opens vectors.
Yes, the walled garden probably helps with security because people are actually payed to review applications from the app fees.. However, I don't think that software in proper repositories has that much more of a danger... they are also generally vetted to some degree.
All of the danger comes from going outside of the safe zone. In the case of iPhone, you generally can't leave it at all.
You can install waydroid, but it drains the battery a lot faster
Oh yeah and you can install it without apt by using the waydroid helper in the openstore
How does this compare to Lune ?
I'm getting a lot of Luna requests. I'll be looking into it.
"those little dots next to running applications reminds me a little bit of MacOS X" yeah and it should remind of you something else.... hmm... has the same name... goes on the desktop...
Not exactly sure what it would be. I didn't have any luck googling either :-/ Any other clues?
Goes on the desktop ?? I can't think of it. Has anyone resolved this puzzle
Hahah, did you mean Ubuntu Desktop?
@@bitterepic I think they mean the Unity desktop. Canonical was trying to make one environment which worked well on computers and phones while keeping the same look and feel.
It is so "nice" that it is not even installed from the official installer on the Linux smartphone PP.........................................
Wow you must be fun at parties
@@StephenFasciani not really, because android smartphones are more often called to these parties for developers of mobile distributions, rather than real Linux devices.
I don't think primary development is done for the drivers of the Pinephone Pro using Ubuntu... so it isn't preinstalled. That also means that everything comes to Ubuntu Touch courtesy of a volunteer at a later point.
From where did you get it, and how did you install it?
The installer only supports devices created to run android.
but ubuntu touch is discontinued
It's still supported by the community. Though you are right to question about how far they can get without a (primary?) corporate sponsor.
If you look at the sponsorships, pine64 is listed... for how ever much that is worth. I can't say how much of a sponsorship it is.
ubports.com/en/sponsorship
It survived since 2017 and even has an official foundation now. I'd say it's already a great success. Been using UT as my main phone since 2015 😄
Who want to use Linux on a phone??
Me and least thousands more people.
Me
@@mateoamoros4734 Why........???????
@@brugj03 Because this way I can prevent companies with whom I do not have an agreement from using my personal data as a primary basis for their business. Also, with Linux I can make the most of my phone's hardware, making it more eco-friendly and fast
@@mateoamoros4734 I use my phone as a tool, why would i pull my hair out using linux and making it useless for basic functionality.
Do you include a Naruto themed keyboard and mouse, to constantly type in the password, and copy off web pages commands, to paste in the Linux terminal? Even with free Sailor Moon themed keyboard and mouse, that dumb crap (especially the terminal) has to go, if you ever want more than 2-4% global users. Normal people aren't like Linux people. They have better things to do than type in their beloved Linux terminal all day and night long, from within mommy's basement.
clunky weird fake android OS